Your title is wrong, those are SL-1200's, not 1210's. I wanted to see the changes side by side of the black additions as they've changed from the 1210GR to the 1210GR2
AGREED!!! Worst tonearm lift around. Love my brand new SL-100 C but that tonearm lift!! Hoping maybe it will "loosen up" a bit. Even the tonearm lift on the Pioneer PLX 500 / 1000 are light years ahead of the Technics. All that trickle down engineering and they cannot develop a better solution.
I paused the video at the 5:57 mark and studied the graph. It compares speed fluctuations at the platter"s edge at 33 1/3 rpm. Of interest is the vertical scale. Max fluctuation occurs around 2 Hz (for both units) with magnitude of 2.0E-4 m/s. That's 0.00002 m/s. I'm fairly confident I wouldn't be able to hear the difference.
Strang, B&H photo in NYC has the GR on sale for $1499 with a struck thru $1799 and a put list for the GR2 of $2199. Looks like I got chumped into believing I was saving $300 when in actuality the list price for GR is $1499.😤
Pay attention to the platter wobble. My Mk2’s don’t do that. My MK7s did though, they went straight back to the store. Disappointed to see it happening on high end GR’s.
Hi, thanks for your video. I just have two questions for you. First, you mentioned that Technics has made a considerable investment to improve the performance of the GR and develop the GR2. Can you please provide a figure for that investment? $100k, $1M, $5M, etc.? Second, is the noise that the GR2 eliminates, which the GR cannot, audible to the human ear? If so, could you provide evidence of this? Thank you in advance.
1200 mk2 - 3 Layer - alu, bcm, real Heavy rubber 1200 m7 - 2 Layer - alu, cheep light plastic (with Steel Plate inside for more weight 🤣 1200 gr gr2 - 2 Layer - alu, bcm very Heavy plastic bottom 1200 G - 4 Layer - Alu, Alu, bcm, real Heavy rubber + very Heavy plattter with brass insert + Magnesium tonearm + Motor is a twin rotor design with a very high torque - weight 18kG So the G Model is the real sukcessor of the mk2 Model ruclips.net/video/3vDYbBjjCMw/видео.htmlsi=l5cV2tCLRnGIH0hw
Yes that's correct and the tonearm of the 1200G is also much more like the MK2. The tonearm on the MK7 and GR/GR2 looks the same from the outside, but the insides are significantly simplified, resulting in a tonearmlift that feels much more flimsy. I've owned an MK2 and MK4 in the past and now own a 1200G and 1200M7L (white MK7) - I opened all of them to check the insides.
Your title is wrong, those are SL-1200's, not 1210's. I wanted to see the changes side by side of the black additions as they've changed from the 1210GR to the 1210GR2
When are they going to upgrade the cheap plastic tonearm lift system? The 40+ year old SL 1100A lift was light years ahead.
AGREED!!! Worst tonearm lift around. Love my brand new SL-100 C but that tonearm lift!! Hoping maybe it will "loosen up" a bit. Even the tonearm lift on the Pioneer PLX 500 / 1000 are light years ahead of the Technics. All that trickle down engineering and they cannot develop a better solution.
Wow! What a pleasant surprise review. I have both tables and love them both!
I paused the video at the 5:57 mark and studied the graph. It compares speed fluctuations at the platter"s edge at 33 1/3 rpm. Of interest is the vertical scale. Max fluctuation occurs around 2 Hz (for both units) with magnitude of 2.0E-4 m/s. That's 0.00002 m/s. I'm fairly confident I wouldn't be able to hear the difference.
Strang, B&H photo in NYC has the GR on sale for $1499 with a struck thru $1799 and a put list for the GR2 of $2199. Looks like I got chumped into believing I was saving $300 when in actuality the list price for GR is $1499.😤
Pay attention to the platter wobble. My Mk2’s don’t do that. My MK7s did though, they went straight back to the store. Disappointed to see it happening on high end GR’s.
Hi, thanks for your video. I just have two questions for you. First, you mentioned that Technics has made a considerable investment to improve the performance of the GR and develop the GR2. Can you please provide a figure for that investment? $100k, $1M, $5M, etc.? Second, is the noise that the GR2 eliminates, which the GR cannot, audible to the human ear? If so, could you provide evidence of this? Thank you in advance.
Sounds very could you please send me a send me catalogue thank you
1200 mk2 - 3 Layer - alu, bcm, real Heavy rubber
1200 m7 - 2 Layer - alu, cheep light plastic (with Steel Plate inside for more weight 🤣
1200 gr gr2 - 2 Layer - alu, bcm very Heavy plastic bottom
1200 G - 4 Layer - Alu, Alu, bcm, real Heavy rubber + very Heavy plattter with brass insert + Magnesium tonearm + Motor is a twin rotor design with a very high torque - weight 18kG
So the G Model is the real sukcessor of the mk2 Model
ruclips.net/video/3vDYbBjjCMw/видео.htmlsi=l5cV2tCLRnGIH0hw
Yes that's correct and the tonearm of the 1200G is also much more like the MK2.
The tonearm on the MK7 and GR/GR2 looks the same from the outside, but the insides are significantly simplified, resulting in a tonearmlift that feels much more flimsy.
I've owned an MK2 and MK4 in the past and now own a 1200G and 1200M7L (white MK7) - I opened all of them to check the insides.
1200GR and 1200G same bottom rubber layer, NOT plastic.
@@JumbleTasteSpinning 1200G has rubber, 1200GR has BMC.
@@JumbleTasteSpinning no True i got g and GR2
Yep.. yet they make the pitch adjust terrible so DJs like myself can’t have it as an option. Not to mention 8k for a pair..