For 78 rpm folks, that variable speed slider is a godsend. According to the late great 78 collector, Joe Bussard, records made prior to about 1930 were recorded at speeds slightly below 78. The slider lets us play 78s at the proper speed as needed. These are great turntables in my opinion. Thanks for posting this and taking these tables seriously.
My first turntable was the Technics SL-230. I bought it in 1978 and had it until 2001. It was an amazing turntable. After that I bought the Denon DP-62-L. Which is an extremely remarkable turntable.
I have owned Technics turntables since 1981. When most of the “opinionated” know it alls here began to eat their Cheerios in their trainer Pampers in front of the TV for Saturday morning cartoons. Today, after my husband died 3 years ago, bought an SL-1210 GR. I made some customizations to it that makes it unnecessary for now to buy a more expensive model.
Of course it is entry level, above 1000$ is the entry level of not getting enough return for your money. Above the line of I will look on the used market 😂
I got my whole system for $1k. Used technics 1200, pioneer sx 780 and some Koss 1020 speakers. Sounds 👌 to me. Still plenty of used 1200 mkii turntables out there.
Some belt drive turntables do monitor the speed but not all. The early 1200G's had a label on the underside of the platter that actually said 'BALANCED'.
You wouldn't believe it, but I had a 80s 1200 system I built up with semi good products from charity and second-hand shops around 1995. I moved to York from Leeds UK and had a nervous breakdown and returned to my parent house . When moving out, I gave away my system to a neighbour as I clearly wasn't thinking straight due to illness . The app I had is worth some 2k now ,speakers 800 plus ,cd 300, and said record deck, which was in perfect condition as I really took care of my system . Now fully well and helping others in charity work now and still think about that system. The thing is, the family I gave it to didn't have records or really showed appreciation plus didn't understand the quality of system I gave . Most all was top tier 15 years earlier.
what do you call a 1200 system ,i also have lot´s of technics components mainly from the 70´s and some from the 80´s ,so i know people call diferent names to series or references, the reason why i´m curious
@RUfromthe40s Oh , I meant deck Techniques Sl1200 mk2 record deck. Loved that thing. Had a whardale 30d for the middle/high plus two old sonys three-way large box on stands, plus I built amp at collage for a 15" bass sub in a guitar speaker in the box . I build across overs in a neat box with some old volume buttons to Variable the middle / Treble. I also used many older amps as we had a charity shop that sold lots of them ,back them they were £20 - 40, so I tried a good few .. I bought a nad 3020 later of just the just two of the setup I build. . I tuned, said set up over the years, and built a power house and good quality. Lately, I bought a pre Myryad pre T40 / T60 Amplifiers power , some tannoy Bronze B2 and a sony cinema amp and the full tannoy 5.1 set up also some whardale 30d as they is something special about them .
@@itisjustacomment i have also some integrated amplifiers and a power amplifier and pre ,a reel to reel deck also some speakers, 4 pairs(two pairs are SB-F3 from 79, some don´t like them but with a 70´s amplifier or receiver they sound amazing) and 7 technics turntables, but sold for 500€ in 2009 two SL-1200MKII with original cartridges and stylus still closed on the box because i was using shure professional needles and two concorde stylus that had almost no use, at the time now one wanted SL-1200 for not having auto-return and i have a personalized SP-10 ,a 79 SL-1000mkII , a SL-1200(72) ,a SL-1510(76/77) ,a SL-3310(76), SL-3100(76), SL-5000(kind of the same as the SL-3310 but with quartz lock and more modern keys), and from the 80´s a SL-M1(i had put wrongly a 5 here) with A series pre and power amplifier ,most of them were ofered by family or friends, and some were from a radio station i started in 1970, that started with garrard and thorens professional line from late 60´s that i kept one of each in two studios we had, i colect hi-fi components so i own a lot more than this, mainly pioneer and new acoustic dimention (NAD, from the 70´s), Revox/studer, accuphase , phase linear , dynaco, elac, hitachi, nakamichi, toshiba/aurex, optonica from sharp, kenwood, luxman, rotel, denon, sony, and several european brands, that i had in my city a entire building neighborhood with german young families that worked in a nato airforce field 4km´s from the city where i live and when returning home they sold all very cheap, there are incredible components from Philips, schneider, blaupunkt, telefunken, normende, grundig, dual, basf, and sae, crown, hh scott ,this last 3 from the U.S. also proton, vector research, i almost forget mitsubishi, i have a entire room with shelfs all around and a wooden table in the midle with also lot´s of components ,where i have some tools to make some easy repair, i also colect cars ,some prefer stamps or coins i colect hi-fi gear also music in diferent formats, mainly records and cds, what can i say, first was just because i couldn´t see this or that thrown to the garbage than i bought a bigger home and my better half stoped shouting at me, and the kids already went to their lifes so i have two empty rooms,lets see maybe i get one and my 5th wife get´s another, but i married and have children with only number 1 and 5 this till i was 50 and some two years ago after noticing that my diesel mercedes from 2015 had written in the doors metal tweeters a brand that i had never heard talking about "burmester" i went to their site and saw their top system that seemed good to me ,so i for the first time bought a entire system from burmester two years ago and they came from germany to install all to perfection and i paid only with three sources turntable , cd player and media center to digital formats and streaming services, 140.000€ , i thought that i will not take it with me when going down under not New Zeland or Australia, but hell where most of my friends and girl friends are for sure, and because i live in the most hot region of Europe ,before dry heat now with the biggest artificial lake of Europe lot´s of humidity, so i guess i´ll feel at home there, might not be so bad from what i´ve heard from priests ,i grew up in a catholic school, all that is cool is in hell, it sounds refreshing, maybe i´ll watch again Boham Carter making nice drum solo´s and maybe in some years all Led Zeppelin are reunited there, sorry for the long coment, i think this happens with age, i´m not that old my father passed away for making exams in the hospital that make him die sooner ,he was 97 years old and had a active life.
@@itisjustacomment i used to combine some big speakers cs from pioneer with wide woofer putting a studio monitor from yamaha on top for all frequencies to be heard or the much possible, with a A-717MKII from pioneer 94 release the MKI is a 88, this using a elac turntable and a cd player from technics the one before the top end in 89 also a md 1500 from denon and a CT-93 pioneer deck ,using a 80´s kenwood equalizer that had reverberation included
Great review. I have the 1210GR and i think it's amazing as well, no upgrade for the G needed. the G is amazing, but i think the GR is the sweet spot for what you get for the money.
They really are great machine , I had an 80s 1200, and the quality plus machine work was top tier . The counterweight for the arm alone was beautifully made.
The GR was my goto table for some time, thought it would be hard to improve and I only saw the G in pictures and videos. Once I got my hands on the G it was in love a first sight, there are so many nice things about the way it operates and feels that is hard to capture in a video. If you have a chance to see one in person be sure to do so.
I think it’s worth the price. I’m still rocking a 1978 Techniques SL 3300 fully automatic. And that was just a basically an entry-level back in 1978. The one in this video will absolutely last well over 50 years, and if you look at how it was manufactured, the materials are top notch.
at least the SL-1500c as auto-return and in sound quality all depends on the cartridge you have, but this installing it well,to avoid exterior problems related with static, humidity ,dust ,etc., i guess you already choose well
A long time ago I used to own the Technics SL-1200 MK II. As much as I like it (A lot), in terms of audio quality my next turntable the Voyd The Valdi wiped the floor with it. Best under 10K is a bold statement and hard to believe. especially with superb turntables from VPI, Roksan, Avid, SME, Michell, Origin Live etc.
Hey Fernando, Thank you very much for the Review👍 For using the SH 50P1 it is necessary to fix it with the hole on its backside on the plate axle. Greetings Thomas
Rega P6, P8, P10 and Ania are all examples of belt-driven turntables that don’t rely on the A/C frequency (which no t above $2k should) but have a sophisticated speed control in the external but fully integrated Neo power and speed control unit.
Great Review! I've had my 1200G for about 2 years now and absolutely love it! I'm using a Hana ML cartridge. After watching your video, I may have you do a calibration and alignment. I'm just not sure if I want to go through the shipping?
How are the motors different in the SP-10RE-S, SL-1200G-S, and SL-1500C-K? Technics gives vague descriptions of each motor. I know the SP10 has a double coil twin rotor-type coreless direct drive motor, coils on both sides for 12-pole, 18-coil drive but the rest of the line is vague, only describing them as coreless. I have experienced the SP-10RE-S setup and can attest to its speed stability. I watched the strobe on it for at least five minutes, trying not to waiver and it's the first time that I have ever seen a direct drive table not drift. Not a bit! Something none of the older Technics ever do. Every freaking DD-turntable I've ever seen drifts some. Everyone before this one, so how far down the line can you go that has that kind of stability?
The motor on the G and SL1000 is very different and utilize the twin rotor. I believe the rest of the tables use a single rotor of similar design. Frankly I find all modern units to be rock solid and have never seen or measured any drift.
As an ex-Audiophile and retired DJ of over 40 years I have never been impressed by Technics for reference level vinyl replay. The elephant in the room for me on all Technics 1200 series turntables including this is the pitch control! In all my decades of reference vinyl listening I have never had the need to adjust pitch, not even had a thought when listening to my decks of choice that, I wish I had pitch control. Now DJ’ing, I couldn’t live without it. It’s a pity in my honest opinion Technics didn’t come in with some models without pitch control between the 1500 and SP model. Just my two cents worth, it’s all personal choice at the end of the day.
Even though I've owned my 1210G for a year... still enjoy watching videos with lots of details. The brass plater is the sexiest part of this version of the SL1200 😎
Great vid, I have this table and can't wait to start and use it next month after I get my cabinet delivered next month. could you let us know what the white tool is called that you use near the end please.
I also own an SL-1200G for about 6 years now. Technics' biggest mistake was to call it a 1200 and make it look like a 1200. It's in no way anything like the original 1200s, it's way heavier, more solid, more accurate and a true hifi turntable. The original 1200s are no match for this one, but still people tend to compare it with the legacy 1200s... which is why this 1200G is HEAVILY underestimated... Oh and btw, you can get plenty of armboards for this turntable, so you can upgrade the tonearm. The stock tonearm is already way better than that of the other 1200s, but I've put an SME V on mine and that's even better. It's spinning so accurately, noise free, it's so solid and well isolated, that it's a great platform for highend tonearms. 11:45 The switch to the right of the "update" USB port is to change the light color. It's a hidden feature not mentioned in the manual. A lot of people don't know about it. 12:18 After 6 years of use of mine, I still have the brass on my platter in perfect condition, except for some slight darkening on the edge where the platter mat doesn't cover it (probably from touching it).
Wow, thanks for the color change button tip, wish I had known that during the video, would have made me look super clever :-). I agree that the look is too similar to the original but than again the sales numbers are staggering so Technics clearly knows something we dont. With regards to the platter stain I suspect a bit of Brasso cleaner would remedy this but I did not want to try it since I dont own this table. When I get mine I will likely clear coat it.
Nice, very easy to use, good looking turntable, I had one years ago, I liked it, lot of fun, an eye turner, its loud and boisterous in its appearance, however, sometime in the early 2000s it was showing its age, still worked but it sounded tired, I auditioned a Rega Planar 3, not nearly as cosmetically intrusive, very understated, I wasn't sure I liked the look of the Planar 3, however, on listening I was hooked, completely new level of sound, I felt I had a new record collection, it not only sounded different to my technics, it sounded better in every way, subjective stuff, my opinion is just my opinion, as is this video here, if you are in the market here for a new turntable and might be considering the SL1200, do yourself a favour, listen to the Planar 3, you are in for a pleasant surprise.
1) I feel like the DJ look holds back a lot of buyers. It just needs the pitch control and strobe and platter dots removed. 2) When you are trying to adjust the azimuth, I think its better to loosen the headshell collar and turn and hold the headshell and then tighten the collar. Ultimately its going to just go back to where it wants to be anyway, so I'd go with a headshell with adjustable azimuth instead. 3) Record weights are bogus. You are putting too much weight on the bearing of the turntable, increasing friction and noise for no reason. Go flatten your records or buy a turntable with a threaded spindle and clamp that screws on if you need that. Don't overload the tiny thrust bearing with a bowling ball.
I agree on the slider although I wouldn't mind keeping the strobe as it's so cool to watch, just for confirmation. Thanks for the tip, should have loosed the collar. I have been told by Technics that the motor is designed to handle a certain weight clamp, knowing that many folks will want to use one, so it's safe to put one on. My records aren't that great so I will be using one.
Good Review. I use the 1200 series for my DJing. Starting Torque 2.2 kg-cm is average compared to other DJ turntablesI own and use. For a true audiophile enthusiast like me, the 1500 C would be a better choice, clean and sleek.
I bought one of these as soon as it was released and I really liked it but it couldn’t match the soundstage and space as my LP12 so I sold it after a few months. I even tried different cartridges, At-33ptg/ii and Lyra Delos. I wouldn’t mind another one for mono and 78 use though.
I can appreciate the engineering, and while $5k is a lot of money, its very sane compared to some of the nutty turntables out there. One thing I don't understand is if a) this is designed for the audiophile and b) the speed control is so precise, then why does it need the pitch control? Makes it look like a DJ table and ruins the aesthetic in my opinion. I think if Techniques offered this table without the pitch control and with a nice wood plinth similar to the old Denon direct drives... something that really looks like an audiophile piece, they would see sales skyrocket further. Its a mystery to me why they've never done this.
Many folks agree with you but for some reason they refuse to remove the pitch control. It doest bother me since it has a button to bypass the feature altogether. A wood plinth would be nice, I designed and built a prototype but I got distracted and didn't quite take it to the next step.
I think something that seemingly always goes unmentioned regarding a benefit of pitch control is that since these tables have 78 rpm capability, pitch control can be invaluable. Way back in the ancient times (LOL!) 78 rpm was at times an estimate at best. There really was no hardline standard. Some “78 rpm” were recorded at 65, some at 88, etc. With the pitch control 2x capability, you can dial in anything 👍
@@saford13 Yes, but 78s pre-date the modern concept of stereo hifi. The buyer of this table is primarily interested in stereo hifi. So my argument, now that you’ve pointed it out, is that both the pitch control and the 78 speed selection are unnecessary for the vast majority of targeted users.
Thanks for the review and setup process. I have this table in black and absolutely love it. Fitted it with an AT ART-9XA and have never been happier. Now I need (want) to do the fluid damper upgrade. Hell of a view you've got there!
What a great video, thank you..... I think the 1200g is the coolest turntable available and noticed you went with a pretty nice Sumiko MC cartridge. Have you tried Ortofon 2M-Black MM? Or do you think its a better fit with the 1200gr2? Either way, I'm happy to see you carry these turntables....
I like the Starling from Sumiko mostly because it uses a boron cantilever and a micro ridge stylus. Most good manufacturers including Ortofon and Hana make some sort of equivalent so those would also be good. It's also in the right price/performance category for the G.
J'ai remplacé en Décembre 2023 ma Technics SL-1200 MK2 avec une SL1200-G, et j'en suis très satisfait. Je l'ai acquise avant l'augmentation du prix de vente.
I've had a 1200G for several years and agree it's an amazing turntable. Last year I tried different arms with it and settled with a Funk FX3, it was transformative. Good as the stock arm is, I believe it's the weak link. I now use my turntable with a van den Hul Crimson and it's the best vinyl replay I've had here. Not the most expensive, though....
Yes, I have a vested interest in this brand and model, be sure to watch other reviews to get a well balance opinion. I bet you land in the same place :-).
It seems that Technics / Panasonic is giving everybody the middle finger with their price structure due to just about everyone talking smack about them being mid teared and average at best for almost 40 years. I think I'll stick with my $200 low time SL1200 Mk2. Nice video none the less.
Hi, great example of a basic setup and beautiful workshop equipment 👍 I own a SL-Q3 automatic in black and a few months ago while cleaning it I found that the rubber pad on the motor plate had hardened to stone - have you ever seen this? Here in the Czech Republic, I have not yet been able to find a new original one. Nice day 🙂 Tom
I’d love a top quality turntable I would but honestly the price for the G even the GR2 and you’re talking about upgrades…….WOW. Some folk have more money than sense.
Technics - it isn’t ‘Techniques’. At 8:10 the comment about belt drives using mains frequency to drive the motor and not being able to regulate the motor speed independently of the mains is simply not true for all belt drives. Some use AC synchronous motors and some use DC motors with quartz oscillating circuits. They may take longer to get up to speed compared to a DD, but once there - they do have accurate speed control independent of the mains supply, so saying that ‘belt drives cannot do this’ is completely wrong. I just stopped watching at that point, I get the impression you either don’t really know much technically, or you just want to push specific marketing.
I'm sure you don't know but Funk Firm will show you that mats matter in fact mats are critical.. Their feet are incredible..Go look a Funk aka Pink Triangle of old and they do a 30K arm as good as SAT if not better
@@SkyFiAudio Have you ever or would you make a video showing us your personal home system? You get so many things to choose from it would be interesting to see what you select.
I started making one featuring 3 systems but they keep changing so quickly that it felt like miss information. I'm mostly into Nagra and vintage stuff. I will get it done some day, thanks for asking.
without doubt a market leading product , and for good reason. but it just doesn't have the soundstage that makes better turntables so wonderful , if you are into that invisible speakers type of thing.
Going back to your point about cogging, it is definitely a thing, but you would never hear it on this turntable. If you buy the audio technica knock off of this, you will definitely hear the motor cogging and that’s why I ended up returning it. It was horrible to the point where you could even hear it in videos when I recorded a video for my RUclips channel. Now the high quality machines that you sell, you’re never gonna hear it. It’s never going to be an issue, but you will definitely hear it on cheaper direct drive turntables, or at least on the audio technical. I’ve never heard it before until I purchased the audio tech
I would argue that an SL-1500C is more than an entry level turntable. In the line you showed here, it certainly is, but that is relative, and is more than such in the world of turntables overall. I certainly agree the G is wonderful. I agree with all you mentioned about upgrades. Trying different mats is worthwhile. The change in sound from a mat can be quite noticeable. If one were to record transfers of the same record with different mats and everything else the same, the changes in sound are verifiable that way.
I must admit I dont have much experience with the SL1500C. I have one coming to me this week and will review it as well. Im hearing many folks mention mats. Which one specifically gave you the best results?
@@SkyFiAudio I do not own one of these, but I admire them and their performance. I have heard mat tests (for lack of a better term done) with turntables where all that was changed was the mat, and they usually each had a personality.
@SkyFiAudio I'm a fan of the Collaro mat on my 1200G. I've also tried the Funk and Origin Live mats, they're both better than stock, but the Collaro really opens the music up and gives the different elements space to breathe.
Switched-mode power supplies, miniaturized surface-mounted components (SMDs): when they break down, nobody wants to fix them, and they just go to waste ? 🤥 For that reason alone, I'm keeping my 1200 MK-2, because any electrician with a soldering iron can fix it ! 😉
I doubt it. The stock arm is a lovely thing, carefully assembled by hand. It doesn't have some flimsy headshell full of holes, 50 year old horizontal bearings and sloppy nylon knife edges for the vertical bearing. If you wanted to replace the arm with an SME, I think a 309 is the minimum. Mate of mine has a IV and it sounds very good indeed.
I don’t question that this a good turntable…but…short spindke, the W&F are not as per Technics specs, and not ideal for adjusting VTA. The SL1200GR, is a much better value for money and sounds the same.
I could only afford the GR and it totally satisfies. Thing is I only have a few records that are sans pop and crackle. That shortcoming is so distracting that for the most part I have abandoned record play for hi-res Apple Music. At any rate, i suspect that the G’s might inspire a feeling for getting the best experience but I’m not that OCD to buy into it.
Thank you Fernando for the most insightful description of the technics turntable. I will consider purchasing from your shop to include a Sumiko but I will budget for a less expensive cart within the oyster series for the SL 1200 gr2.
there´s a much better turntable a following of the 79 SL-1000MKII but with a diferent designation ,maybe similar to SL-1000R or GR with built for it a nagaoka cartridge and stylus due to their work together in the 70´s cartridges and stylus wise, i still use them and sound like today very expensive cartridges and i had better at the time for much less money so this cartridges and stylus kept sealed in their boxes are today incredible sounding while then was average
On my 1200g my counterweight is always off compared to my digital scale it’s usually underweight on the counterweight I always check with my ortofon ds3 weight. I cleaned the oil off on the counterweight when I bought it can that be the issue ? And what oil can I use to add oil if needed please
I intend to as this is at this stage on top of my list. Hopefully they also have a good external phono stage and maybe power supply. Thanks Fernando 😎👍 You videos are always comprehensive @@SkyFiAudio
I'm glad Technics sees the benefit of engineering to reduce/eliminate cogging, even if you don't believe in it. 😇 Seeing that motor spin so smoothly is actually very impressive.
No comparison whatsoever, if in any doubt buy one , within minutes of correct set up your thoughts would be put to rest , I used to think along similar lines , I've had many decks in my past, but the G was a revelation, never heard my lps sound so good, no disrespect to older technics but they were an excellent product in there time .
I enjoyed the deep dive into this deck, but think there's dozens of better sounding decks currently available under $10K from many manufacturers. Pro-ject alone have a handful better, not to mention Rega, Roksan, Origin Live, SME, Nottingham Analogue, Linn...and that's just the English companies.
Better sounding? What sort of magic do they posses? Wouldn't it be based on the cartridge, the ability of the person to perform the proper setup and the ability of the table to hold tolerances for the cartridge to shine? Just my 2 cents.
@@SkyFiAudioI bought a 1200G when they were released. I really liked it but it couldn’t match my LP12 for soundstage, detail and realism. I even had the same cartridge on both. Once the Lingo 4 PSU and motor came out I sold it as the Linn was better again. I’d still like another one though.
Fab table but if I was going to drop that kind of cash I would pass. I loath that pitch control slider and I don’t think I’m alone. The “entry” model is much cleaner and more pleasing to look at. I don’t get it. Thanks for the vid. Great as usual.
Thanks for the informative video. And what a marvel of engineering! I’m planning to buy this table. Also have two questions: 1- Where is this table made in? Malaysia or Japan? 2- Is it’s tonearm automatic?( Does it auto-reject when it reaches the center of the record?)
1. Factory moved to Malaysia a few years back. Haven't noticed any changes in quality, just more production output which is needed. 2. No lifter on this version, you would need the entry level SL1500C. Cheers.
The strobe light on the left, is that actually strobing, or is it solid? I thought in the old days, that was just a regular light, and the markings on the platter were for 33 and 45 rpm, at 50 and 60 hz. But the light here looking strobing, with the markings for slower or faster speeds.
Yes the led is strobing and reflecting off the dots on the platter. It's actually a lot smarter than the old days which relied on the frequency of 60hz from the power company. No matter what speed, the same dots are used to show locked position with the other rows showing +- deviation. Very smart.
For 78 rpm folks, that variable speed slider is a godsend. According to the late great 78 collector, Joe Bussard, records made prior to about 1930 were recorded at speeds slightly below 78. The slider lets us play 78s at the proper speed as needed. These are great turntables in my opinion. Thanks for posting this and taking these tables seriously.
This turntable and cartridge combo is my next analog purchase for sure. Thanks for sharing!
You will love it !!. Keep in mind to match the phono cartridge to the optimum phono preamp (or settings on current phono preamp)
My first turntable was the Technics
SL-230. I bought it in 1978 and had it until 2001. It was an amazing turntable. After that I bought the Denon DP-62-L. Which is an extremely remarkable turntable.
I have owned Technics turntables since 1981. When most of the “opinionated” know it alls here began to eat their Cheerios in their trainer Pampers in front of the TV for Saturday morning cartoons. Today, after my husband died 3 years ago, bought an SL-1210 GR. I made some customizations to it that makes it unnecessary for now to buy a more expensive model.
Not sure about others, but $1k and above gear is well beyond “entry level” for me.
While Technics makes good tables at many price ranges, there is nothing under $1000 unfortunately.
Of course it is entry level, above 1000$ is the entry level of not getting enough return for your money. Above the line of I will look on the used market 😂
I got my whole system for $1k. Used technics 1200, pioneer sx 780 and some Koss 1020 speakers. Sounds 👌 to me. Still plenty of used 1200 mkii turntables out there.
@@sethallison5682I understand your point, but if you listen to the good stuff you'd understand that your system isn't very good.
What’s wrong with you man .. sell a kidney.. put the kids out to work …
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I love my Quartz Lock ST- 1400 mk2. Am a Canada.
Love this turntable - thanks for the great review. Appreciate the basic setup procedures too.
Glad it was helpful!
Some belt drive turntables do monitor the speed but not all.
The early 1200G's had a label on the underside of the platter that actually said 'BALANCED'.
You wouldn't believe it, but I had a 80s 1200 system I built up with semi good products from charity and second-hand shops around 1995.
I moved to York from Leeds UK and had a nervous breakdown and returned to my parent house . When moving out, I gave away my system to a neighbour as I clearly wasn't thinking straight due to illness .
The app I had is worth some 2k now ,speakers 800 plus ,cd 300, and said record deck, which was in perfect condition as I really took care of my system .
Now fully well and helping others in charity work now and still think about that system.
The thing is, the family I gave it to didn't have records or really showed appreciation plus didn't understand the quality of system I gave .
Most all was top tier 15 years earlier.
what do you call a 1200 system ,i also have lot´s of technics components mainly from the 70´s and some from the 80´s ,so i know people call diferent names to series or references, the reason why i´m curious
@RUfromthe40s Oh , I meant deck Techniques Sl1200 mk2 record deck. Loved that thing.
Had a whardale 30d for the middle/high plus two old sonys three-way large box on stands, plus I built amp at collage for a 15" bass sub in a guitar speaker in the box . I build across overs in a neat box with some old volume buttons to Variable the middle / Treble.
I also used many older amps as we had a charity shop that sold lots of them ,back them they were £20 - 40, so I tried a good few .. I bought a nad 3020 later of just the just two of the setup I build. .
I tuned, said set up over the years, and built a power house and good quality.
Lately, I bought a pre Myryad pre T40 / T60 Amplifiers power , some tannoy Bronze B2 and a sony cinema amp and the full tannoy 5.1 set up also some whardale 30d as they is something special about them .
I also had some Pioneer hpm 700s , technics sc1000 a 1000 .. The amp is my biggest regret for sure and speakers.
@@itisjustacomment i have also some integrated amplifiers and a power amplifier and pre ,a reel to reel deck also some speakers, 4 pairs(two pairs are SB-F3 from 79, some don´t like them but with a 70´s amplifier or receiver they sound amazing) and 7 technics turntables, but sold for 500€ in 2009 two SL-1200MKII with original cartridges and stylus still closed on the box because i was using shure professional needles and two concorde stylus that had almost no use, at the time now one wanted SL-1200 for not having auto-return and i have a personalized SP-10 ,a 79 SL-1000mkII , a SL-1200(72) ,a SL-1510(76/77) ,a SL-3310(76), SL-3100(76), SL-5000(kind of the same as the SL-3310 but with quartz lock and more modern keys), and from the 80´s a SL-M1(i had put wrongly a 5 here) with A series pre and power amplifier ,most of them were ofered by family or friends, and some were from a radio station i started in 1970, that started with garrard and thorens professional line from late 60´s that i kept one of each in two studios we had, i colect hi-fi components so i own a lot more than this, mainly pioneer and new acoustic dimention (NAD, from the 70´s), Revox/studer, accuphase , phase linear , dynaco, elac, hitachi, nakamichi, toshiba/aurex, optonica from sharp, kenwood, luxman, rotel, denon, sony, and several european brands, that i had in my city a entire building neighborhood with german young families that worked in a nato airforce field 4km´s from the city where i live and when returning home they sold all very cheap, there are incredible components from Philips, schneider, blaupunkt, telefunken, normende, grundig, dual, basf, and sae, crown, hh scott ,this last 3 from the U.S. also proton, vector research, i almost forget mitsubishi, i have a entire room with shelfs all around and a wooden table in the midle with also lot´s of components ,where i have some tools to make some easy repair, i also colect cars ,some prefer stamps or coins i colect hi-fi gear also music in diferent formats, mainly records and cds, what can i say, first was just because i couldn´t see this or that thrown to the garbage than i bought a bigger home and my better half stoped shouting at me, and the kids already went to their lifes so i have two empty rooms,lets see maybe i get one and my 5th wife get´s another, but i married and have children with only number 1 and 5 this till i was 50 and some two years ago after noticing that my diesel mercedes from 2015 had written in the doors metal tweeters a brand that i had never heard talking about "burmester" i went to their site and saw their top system that seemed good to me ,so i for the first time bought a entire system from burmester two years ago and they came from germany to install all to perfection and i paid only with three sources turntable , cd player and media center to digital formats and streaming services, 140.000€ , i thought that i will not take it with me when going down under not New Zeland or Australia, but hell where most of my friends and girl friends are for sure, and because i live in the most hot region of Europe ,before dry heat now with the biggest artificial lake of Europe lot´s of humidity, so i guess i´ll feel at home there, might not be so bad from what i´ve heard from priests ,i grew up in a catholic school, all that is cool is in hell, it sounds refreshing, maybe i´ll watch again Boham Carter making nice drum solo´s and maybe in some years all Led Zeppelin are reunited there, sorry for the long coment, i think this happens with age, i´m not that old my father passed away for making exams in the hospital that make him die sooner ,he was 97 years old and had a active life.
@@itisjustacomment i used to combine some big speakers cs from pioneer with wide woofer putting a studio monitor from yamaha on top for all frequencies to be heard or the much possible, with a A-717MKII from pioneer 94 release the MKI is a 88, this using a elac turntable and a cd player from technics the one before the top end in 89 also a md 1500 from denon and a CT-93 pioneer deck ,using a 80´s kenwood equalizer that had reverberation included
Great review.
I have the 1210GR and i think it's amazing as well, no upgrade for the G needed.
the G is amazing, but i think the GR is the sweet spot for what you get for the money.
They really are great machine , I had an 80s 1200, and the quality plus machine work was top tier . The counterweight for the arm alone was beautifully made.
The GR was my goto table for some time, thought it would be hard to improve and I only saw the G in pictures and videos. Once I got my hands on the G it was in love a first sight, there are so many nice things about the way it operates and feels that is hard to capture in a video. If you have a chance to see one in person be sure to do so.
Same! Love my GR
I think it’s worth the price. I’m still rocking a 1978 Techniques SL 3300 fully automatic. And that was just a basically an entry-level back in 1978. The one in this video will absolutely last well over 50 years, and if you look at how it was manufactured, the materials are top notch.
I have a 1200 MKII, 1200GR and 1200G. I can tell you the G is a lot better than the GR and well worth the money.
Very happy with my 1500C (w 2M Blue), did choose it based on price and less of a DJ look but sure I am dreaming of a 1200 😃
Good choice, better than most at that price range. Keep the dream alive!
at least the SL-1500c as auto-return and in sound quality all depends on the cartridge you have, but this installing it well,to avoid exterior problems related with static, humidity ,dust ,etc., i guess you already choose well
A long time ago I used to own the Technics SL-1200 MK II. As much as I like it (A lot), in terms of audio quality my next turntable the Voyd The Valdi wiped the floor with it.
Best under 10K is a bold statement and hard to believe.
especially with superb turntables from VPI, Roksan, Avid, SME, Michell, Origin Live etc.
My Technics GR turntable is far weightier than my Michell Gyro Dec.... Which is overhyped crap
Thanks for sharing! Which of those specifically do you think is a better table?
Hey Fernando, Thank you very much for the Review👍
For using the SH 50P1 it is necessary to fix it with the hole on its backside on the plate axle. Greetings Thomas
Thanks for the info Thomas! Understood
Rega P6, P8, P10 and Ania are all examples of belt-driven turntables that don’t rely on the A/C frequency (which no t above $2k should) but have a sophisticated speed control in the external but fully integrated Neo power and speed control unit.
Great Review! I've had my 1200G for about 2 years now and absolutely love it! I'm using a Hana ML cartridge. After watching your video, I may have you do a calibration and alignment. I'm just not sure if I want to go through the shipping?
Great to hear! Im calibrating A Hana ML next week. Email me and I'll let you know how it went and give you some tips.
For old 80 RPM, we need the pitch to adjust from 78 RPM...
Very excellent TT
Great review and everyone pleasure support local small business
How are the motors different in the SP-10RE-S, SL-1200G-S, and SL-1500C-K? Technics gives vague descriptions of each motor. I know the SP10 has a double coil twin rotor-type coreless direct drive motor, coils on both sides for 12-pole, 18-coil drive but the rest of the line is vague, only describing them as coreless. I have experienced the SP-10RE-S setup and can attest to its speed stability. I watched the strobe on it for at least five minutes, trying not to waiver and it's the first time that I have ever seen a direct drive table not drift. Not a bit! Something none of the older Technics ever do. Every freaking DD-turntable I've ever seen drifts some. Everyone before this one, so how far down the line can you go that has that kind of stability?
The motor on the G and SL1000 is very different and utilize the twin rotor. I believe the rest of the tables use a single rotor of similar design. Frankly I find all modern units to be rock solid and have never seen or measured any drift.
As an ex-Audiophile and retired DJ of over 40 years I have never been impressed by Technics for reference level vinyl replay. The elephant in the room for me on all Technics 1200 series turntables including this is the pitch control! In all my decades of reference vinyl listening I have never had the need to adjust pitch, not even had a thought when listening to my decks of choice that, I wish I had pitch control. Now DJ’ing, I couldn’t live without it. It’s a pity in my honest opinion Technics didn’t come in with some models without pitch control between the 1500 and SP model.
Just my two cents worth, it’s all personal choice at the end of the day.
I appreciate your request and you are not alone. I will relay this back to Technics in our next meeting. I bet they are tired of hearing it. :-).
@@SkyFiAudiothey’d be foolish to remove the pitch adjust as many people like to use these for playing back 78's where the speed isn’t necessarily 78.
Even though I've owned my 1210G for a year... still enjoy watching videos with lots of details. The brass plater is the sexiest part of this version of the SL1200 😎
Great vid, I have this table and can't wait to start and use it next month after I get my cabinet delivered next month. could you let us know what the white tool is called that you use near the end please.
found one one Amazon.. overhang gauge😀
Thank you for the advice
No problem!
I also own an SL-1200G for about 6 years now.
Technics' biggest mistake was to call it a 1200 and make it look like a 1200.
It's in no way anything like the original 1200s, it's way heavier, more solid, more accurate and a true hifi turntable.
The original 1200s are no match for this one, but still people tend to compare it with the legacy 1200s... which is why this 1200G is HEAVILY underestimated...
Oh and btw, you can get plenty of armboards for this turntable, so you can upgrade the tonearm.
The stock tonearm is already way better than that of the other 1200s, but I've put an SME V on mine and that's even better.
It's spinning so accurately, noise free, it's so solid and well isolated, that it's a great platform for highend tonearms.
11:45 The switch to the right of the "update" USB port is to change the light color. It's a hidden feature not mentioned in the manual. A lot of people don't know about it.
12:18 After 6 years of use of mine, I still have the brass on my platter in perfect condition, except for some slight darkening on the edge where the platter mat doesn't cover it (probably from touching it).
Wow, thanks for the color change button tip, wish I had known that during the video, would have made me look super clever :-). I agree that the look is too similar to the original but than again the sales numbers are staggering so Technics clearly knows something we dont. With regards to the platter stain I suspect a bit of Brasso cleaner would remedy this but I did not want to try it since I dont own this table. When I get mine I will likely clear coat it.
@@SkyFiAudio What's clear coat?
Some kind of paint?
Nice, very easy to use, good looking turntable, I had one years ago, I liked it, lot of fun, an eye turner, its loud and boisterous in its appearance, however, sometime in the early 2000s it was showing its age, still worked but it sounded tired, I auditioned a Rega Planar 3, not nearly as cosmetically intrusive, very understated, I wasn't sure I liked the look of the Planar 3, however, on listening I was hooked, completely new level of sound, I felt I had a new record collection, it not only sounded different to my technics, it sounded better in every way, subjective stuff, my opinion is just my opinion, as is this video here, if you are in the market here for a new turntable and might be considering the SL1200, do yourself a favour, listen to the Planar 3, you are in for a pleasant surprise.
1) I feel like the DJ look holds back a lot of buyers. It just needs the pitch control and strobe and platter dots removed. 2) When you are trying to adjust the azimuth, I think its better to loosen the headshell collar and turn and hold the headshell and then tighten the collar. Ultimately its going to just go back to where it wants to be anyway, so I'd go with a headshell with adjustable azimuth instead. 3) Record weights are bogus. You are putting too much weight on the bearing of the turntable, increasing friction and noise for no reason. Go flatten your records or buy a turntable with a threaded spindle and clamp that screws on if you need that. Don't overload the tiny thrust bearing with a bowling ball.
I agree on the slider although I wouldn't mind keeping the strobe as it's so cool to watch, just for confirmation. Thanks for the tip, should have loosed the collar. I have been told by Technics that the motor is designed to handle a certain weight clamp, knowing that many folks will want to use one, so it's safe to put one on. My records aren't that great so I will be using one.
@@SkyFiAudio The SL-1000RE-S has the looks right. Maybe just a touch on the expensive side for the 99%.
Good Review. I use the 1200 series for my DJing. Starting Torque 2.2 kg-cm is average compared to other DJ turntablesI own and use. For a true audiophile enthusiast like me, the 1500 C would be a better choice, clean and sleek.
Agreed. Video on the 1500C coming soon.
I believe the VTA adjustment must be done with a record on the platter.
I bought one of these as soon as it was released and I really liked it but it couldn’t match the soundstage and space as my LP12 so I sold it after a few months. I even tried different cartridges, At-33ptg/ii and Lyra Delos.
I wouldn’t mind another one for mono and 78 use though.
I can appreciate the engineering, and while $5k is a lot of money, its very sane compared to some of the nutty turntables out there. One thing I don't understand is if a) this is designed for the audiophile and b) the speed control is so precise, then why does it need the pitch control? Makes it look like a DJ table and ruins the aesthetic in my opinion. I think if Techniques offered this table without the pitch control and with a nice wood plinth similar to the old Denon direct drives... something that really looks like an audiophile piece, they would see sales skyrocket further. Its a mystery to me why they've never done this.
Many folks agree with you but for some reason they refuse to remove the pitch control. It doest bother me since it has a button to bypass the feature altogether. A wood plinth would be nice, I designed and built a prototype but I got distracted and didn't quite take it to the next step.
@@SkyFiAudio I think the plinth would be a winner!
I think something that seemingly always goes unmentioned regarding a benefit of pitch control is that since these tables have 78 rpm capability, pitch control can be invaluable. Way back in the ancient times (LOL!) 78 rpm was at times an estimate at best. There really was no hardline standard. Some “78 rpm” were recorded at 65, some at 88, etc. With the pitch control 2x capability, you can dial in anything 👍
@@saford13 Yes, but 78s pre-date the modern concept of stereo hifi. The buyer of this table is primarily interested in stereo hifi. So my argument, now that you’ve pointed it out, is that both the pitch control and the 78 speed selection are unnecessary for the vast majority of targeted users.
Even the SL1000R has pitch control. It's just not on the platter, its on the separate control unit
Thank you very much for producing this informative documentary for the Technics SL-1200G turntables.
A+++
Stephan Ðoyon.
That mat really dresses down the turntable
Thanks for the review and setup process. I have this table in black and absolutely love it. Fitted it with an AT ART-9XA and have never been happier. Now I need (want) to do the fluid damper upgrade. Hell of a view you've got there!
Thanks Eric. Enjoying the view and the great lighting for videos. The fluid upgrade is super simple and satisfying.
Excellent Turn Table. I love it. Can you send it to me in India
What a great video, thank you.....
I think the 1200g is the coolest turntable available and noticed you went with a pretty nice Sumiko MC cartridge.
Have you tried Ortofon 2M-Black MM? Or do you think its a better fit with the 1200gr2?
Either way, I'm happy to see you carry these turntables....
Thanks for watching! I think this table deserves an MC cartridge. Perhaps the Ortofon is more suited for the GR2.
I like the Starling from Sumiko mostly because it uses a boron cantilever and a micro ridge stylus. Most good manufacturers including Ortofon and Hana make some sort of equivalent so those would also be good. It's also in the right price/performance category for the G.
J'ai remplacé en Décembre 2023 ma Technics SL-1200 MK2 avec une SL1200-G, et j'en suis très satisfait. Je l'ai acquise avant l'augmentation du prix de vente.
Got the Reloop Rp7000M2 fantastic tank of a turntable for the money.Love it.a great hifi turntable 👍😊
Great to hear!
I own the SL-1200MK2 ,great turnatable,solid luke a rock!!!
Why's the anti-skate only go to 3 on this?
I've had a 1200G for several years and agree it's an amazing turntable. Last year I tried different arms with it and settled with a Funk FX3, it was transformative. Good as the stock arm is, I believe it's the weak link. I now use my turntable with a van den Hul Crimson and it's the best vinyl replay I've had here. Not the most expensive, though....
Review is done by someone independent, not a salesman. This is a commercial.
Yes, I have a vested interest in this brand and model, be sure to watch other reviews to get a well balance opinion. I bet you land in the same place :-).
It seems that Technics / Panasonic is giving everybody the middle finger with their price structure due to just about everyone talking smack about them being mid teared and average at best for almost 40 years. I think I'll stick with my $200 low time SL1200 Mk2. Nice video none the less.
Hi, great example of a basic setup and beautiful workshop equipment 👍 I own a SL-Q3 automatic in black and a few months ago while cleaning it I found that the rubber pad on the motor plate had hardened to stone - have you ever seen this? Here in the Czech Republic, I have not yet been able to find a new original one.
Nice day 🙂 Tom
Turntable for the rich
I’d love a top quality turntable I would but honestly the price for the G even the GR2 and you’re talking about upgrades…….WOW. Some folk have more money than sense.
Bello.💯💯💯💯💯💯
Technics - it isn’t ‘Techniques’.
At 8:10 the comment about belt drives using mains frequency to drive the motor and not being able to regulate the motor speed independently of the mains is simply not true for all belt drives. Some use AC synchronous motors and some use DC motors with quartz oscillating circuits. They may take longer to get up to speed compared to a DD, but once there - they do have accurate speed control independent of the mains supply, so saying that ‘belt drives cannot do this’ is completely wrong.
I just stopped watching at that point, I get the impression you either don’t really know much technically, or you just want to push specific marketing.
Use a cheap record not a record mat to set tracking angle. Great way to trash your brand new stylus.
Thanks for the tip, didn't have one on hand that I wanted to risk scratching. At the shop I have an acrylic record I use with no risk.
I'm sure you don't know but Funk Firm will show you that mats matter in fact mats are critical.. Their feet are incredible..Go look a Funk aka Pink Triangle of old and they do a 30K arm as good as SAT if not better
Great overview and setup vid of this table. Great job.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@SkyFiAudio Have you ever or would you make a video showing us your personal home system? You get so many things to choose from it would be interesting to see what you select.
I started making one featuring 3 systems but they keep changing so quickly that it felt like miss information. I'm mostly into Nagra and vintage stuff. I will get it done some day, thanks for asking.
Truly a thing of beauty, i have a GR and love it!!
Nice choice. What cartridge?
@@SkyFiAudio Dynavector 20x2
without doubt a market leading product , and for good reason. but it just doesn't have the soundstage that makes better turntables so wonderful , if you are into that invisible speakers type of thing.
Sumiko recommends to set the antiskating to around 1,3g. Have you made a better experience setting it to 2g?
Besides the great performance, the ease of use is a big plus for me..
It's by far the easiest table to setup properly, plus it holds its settings in shipping.
I'm an audiophile on a fixed income, you can imagine what kind of nightmare that is!😮
I love my 1210 g i have the Grado master 3 on it .. and a parasound JC3+
How was the setup on the Grado? Did you have to dial in much anti-skate?
Thanks for the great review!
These would be fantastic for mixing house records on
Verry good and interesting. I love this turntable- Thanks
I wonder how it'd compare in my set up vs my hot rod 1200
The weight difference and build quality is substantial. I would love to listen side by side. At high volume I bet it would measurably outperform it.
I like the features but I just can’t get past the styling unfortunately
I get it Dean. Just use it with the lights off.
Going back to your point about cogging, it is definitely a thing, but you would never hear it on this turntable. If you buy the audio technica knock off of this, you will definitely hear the motor cogging and that’s why I ended up returning it. It was horrible to the point where you could even hear it in videos when I recorded a video for my RUclips channel.
Now the high quality machines that you sell, you’re never gonna hear it. It’s never going to be an issue, but you will definitely hear it on cheaper direct drive turntables, or at least on the audio technical. I’ve never heard it before until I purchased the audio tech
I would argue that an SL-1500C is more than an entry level turntable. In the line you showed here, it certainly is, but that is relative, and is more than such in the world of turntables overall.
I certainly agree the G is wonderful. I agree with all you mentioned about upgrades. Trying different mats is worthwhile. The change in sound from a mat can be quite noticeable. If one were to record transfers of the same record with different mats and everything else the same, the changes in sound are verifiable that way.
I must admit I dont have much experience with the SL1500C. I have one coming to me this week and will review it as well. Im hearing many folks mention mats. Which one specifically gave you the best results?
@@SkyFiAudio I do not own one of these, but I admire them and their performance.
I have heard mat tests (for lack of a better term done) with turntables where all that was changed was the mat, and they usually each had a personality.
@SkyFiAudio I'm a fan of the Collaro mat on my 1200G. I've also tried the Funk and Origin Live mats, they're both better than stock, but the Collaro really opens the music up and gives the different elements space to breathe.
Switched-mode power supplies, miniaturized surface-mounted components (SMDs): when they break down, nobody wants to fix them, and they just go to waste ? 🤥
For that reason alone, I'm keeping my 1200 MK-2, because any electrician with a soldering iron can fix it ! 😉
Would the 50-year old SME 3009S2i tonearm be an upgrade on this turntable over its stock magnesium tonearm?
I doubt it. The stock arm is a lovely thing, carefully assembled by hand. It doesn't have some flimsy headshell full of holes, 50 year old horizontal bearings and sloppy nylon knife edges for the vertical bearing. If you wanted to replace the arm with an SME, I think a 309 is the minimum. Mate of mine has a IV and it sounds very good indeed.
Definitely NOT the best looking, though
I don’t question that this a good turntable…but…short spindke, the W&F are not as per Technics specs, and not ideal for adjusting VTA. The SL1200GR, is a much better value for money and sounds the same.
I could only afford the GR and it totally satisfies. Thing is I only have a few records that are sans pop and crackle. That shortcoming is so distracting that for the most part I have abandoned record play for hi-res Apple Music. At any rate, i suspect that the G’s might inspire a feeling for getting the best experience but I’m not that OCD to buy into it.
4300.00 and it's a MANUAL?? Didn't they used to sell Direct Drive Fully Automatic!!!?
Curious to know what you recommend for record cleaning. Thanks for the great vids!
At the shop we use a Project vacuum machine. Does a good job and is nicely built. You can find them on our website if interested.
Thank you Fernando for the most insightful description of the technics turntable. I will consider purchasing from your shop to include a Sumiko but I will budget for a less expensive cart within the oyster series for the SL 1200 gr2.
there´s a much better turntable a following of the 79 SL-1000MKII but with a diferent designation ,maybe similar to SL-1000R or GR with built for it a nagaoka cartridge and stylus due to their work together in the 70´s cartridges and stylus wise, i still use them and sound like today very expensive cartridges and i had better at the time for much less money so this cartridges and stylus kept sealed in their boxes are today incredible sounding while then was average
Best TT under $10k.....NOT in my 🌎, I can find something WAY better than THAT!
On my 1200g my counterweight is always off compared to my digital scale it’s usually underweight on the counterweight I always check with my ortofon ds3 weight. I cleaned the oil off on the counterweight when I bought it can that be the issue ? And what oil can I use to add oil if needed please
Rega p8 and p10 kill it in almost all areas
Doesn’t a record weight wear out the bearings?
I don't thing a record player with enough torque to get to speed in under a second will even notice a centered weight in the middle.
The 1200G has been around for several years. I am anticipating that the G2 is coming out soon, just like the GR2s ?
Not even close to a rega p8. Its so obvious
Rega p8 is a joke
Crutchfield for me contiguous US only no shipping to Alaska
Nicely done Fernando!
Thanks a lot!
Nice but love old Technics 1600 Mk2 automatic. Just got a Technics M1A. Beautiful
Great review and setup demonstration. Thank you as this turntable is on my shortlist down here in Australia 👍😎
Glad it was helpful Rob. Keep in touch if you end up getting one.
I intend to as this is at this stage on top of my list. Hopefully they also have a good external phono stage and maybe power supply. Thanks Fernando 😎👍 You videos are always comprehensive @@SkyFiAudio
“Best turntable under $10,000 according to me as a Technics dealer”
Dam it Fernando! Now that I have seen your Nagra MSA Amplifier I want one but can not find one :(
I'm glad Technics sees the benefit of engineering to reduce/eliminate cogging, even if you don't believe in it. 😇 Seeing that motor spin so smoothly is actually very impressive.
I would like to know how the SL 1200 MK 5 compares to the G???
There are a few videos comparing the two, just have a search.
It doesn’t.
No comparison whatsoever, if in any doubt buy one , within minutes of correct set up your thoughts would be put to rest , I used to think along similar lines , I've had many decks in my past, but the G was a revelation, never heard my lps sound so good, no disrespect to older technics but they were an excellent product in there time .
The "not aimed at the DJ"
That's what they said about the MK2 1200/1210.
Sar ji 1 pish katraj needle
Totally Insane to pay that much for a record player!!!!!! These audiophiles are mad
Love this, but not up to the advertised specs….perhaps lack of QC ?
Sar ji ek peace cartridge aur needle bhej dena sar
I enjoyed the deep dive into this deck, but think there's dozens of better sounding decks currently available under $10K from many manufacturers. Pro-ject alone have a handful better, not to mention Rega, Roksan, Origin Live, SME, Nottingham Analogue, Linn...and that's just the English companies.
Better sounding? What sort of magic do they posses? Wouldn't it be based on the cartridge, the ability of the person to perform the proper setup and the ability of the table to hold tolerances for the cartridge to shine? Just my 2 cents.
@@SkyFiAudioI bought a 1200G when they were released. I really liked it but it couldn’t match my LP12 for soundstage, detail and realism. I even had the same cartridge on both. Once the Lingo 4 PSU and motor came out I sold it as the Linn was better again. I’d still like another one though.
Very informative video with excellent suggestions for turntable set up and purchase. Thanks!
Under 5k not 10 or technics will raise the price to 10k. Not smart to over rate them.
They sure could use a table in the $10k range. Hopefully there is something in the works. Too big of a jump to 20K.
Nice review. Most of the time the G model is back ordered as you noted.
We get a new shipment every few weeks so at least they are coming in steadily. There is great demand so there is a wait just about everywhere.
@@SkyFiAudio yes, same seems to be true at any dealer with the 1200GS and the 1000R. Both are on backorder.
Jersey, holla'!
LOL
im in jersey do you fix technic turntables?
Fab table but if I was going to drop that kind of cash I would pass. I loath that pitch control slider and I don’t think I’m alone. The “entry” model is much cleaner and more pleasing to look at. I don’t get it. Thanks for the vid. Great as usual.
Fair enough! Folks have been asking to drop the pitch control for some time. I will remind them of it.
Thanks for the informative video. And what a marvel of engineering! I’m planning to buy this table. Also have two questions:
1- Where is this table made in? Malaysia or Japan?
2- Is it’s tonearm automatic?( Does it auto-reject when it reaches the center of the record?)
1. Factory moved to Malaysia a few years back. Haven't noticed any changes in quality, just more production output which is needed.
2. No lifter on this version, you would need the entry level SL1500C. Cheers.
Is it a good idea to tap your finger on the tone are like the review did?
The strobe light on the left, is that actually strobing, or is it solid? I thought in the old days, that was just a regular light, and the markings on the platter were for 33 and 45 rpm, at 50 and 60 hz. But the light here looking strobing, with the markings for slower or faster speeds.
Yes the led is strobing and reflecting off the dots on the platter. It's actually a lot smarter than the old days which relied on the frequency of 60hz from the power company. No matter what speed, the same dots are used to show locked position with the other rows showing +- deviation. Very smart.