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Let's take a look at the history of a more obscure Sonic game: Sonic the Fighters.
Around 3:30, an image appears of Bean, Bark, and Fang. I originally pulled this image off of Google Images, but I did not look at its source. It was used as a thumbnail for a video on ruclips.net/user/Cybershell13 's channel. This was inattentive of me. I'll make sure to check where I'm pulling from, in the future.
I love cybershell!
Video is: Who the hell are Bark, Bean, and Fang
Billiam: Sonic's first appearance is in rad mobile. AN ARCADE GAME! Plus, Sega Sonic the Hedgehog is an arcade game. Hell, Sn0wy made an ENTIRE VIDEO dedicated to Sonic arcade games.
I never got to play the old Sega Sonic arcade game that used the trackball, but if they had one in my local arcades as a kid, I know exactly what I would have been wasting my quarters on. At least Ray and Mighty are officially going to be added to a Sonic game with Mania Plus.
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Sonic was probably in the movie because over in japan sega IS the arcade scene. They say that sega stopped making hardware but that's only true for consoles. Sega has basically been the king of the arcades in japan since arcades were a thing and they still are. That's the arcade connection.
They still make all the star wars games in the U.S (although most are broke lol)
I learned this by playing Yakuza and Judgment
Any good Cybershell Disciple is well acquanted with the Sonic Arcade Game Series
1996:Sonic The Fighters
2018:Sonic The FighterZ
Sir Shadow XD
*The King of Sonic the Fighters*
I cant wait
Sonic ForceZ
2030:Zonik The FighterzZ
Game isn't shallow, there's a reason this game still has a cult following.
It’s totally popping off as of recently. It even got me to start playing
I wish this game had a proper reboot, like adding more modern mechanics and stuff like that. I'm a weird guy, so a weird game like this speaks to me in a way. Therefore, I'm probably the only person that wants to see Sonic Championship/the Fighters revived and remade.
I shall call it, "Sonic Championship: Fighters Redux".
Emeka Toney FINALLY! Someone who doesn't totally dislike the idea! Thank you, good sir for the comment! 😃
Emeka Toney Congratulations, you earned my subscription.
I would call it Sonic the Fighters X (Or maybe Y or Z). And I would put characters from other spin-offs like the Babylon from Sonic Riders.
Vithor Silva Correa I think I'd only put Jet in the roster. Maybe Wave and Storm can assist Jet through special moves.
You're not the only one! I'd totally be down for it! But one thing's for sure: Sonic Team should NOT make this game. Get someone else to do it.
know something i thought of?
fang.
he's a treasure hunter
obsessed with gems. (chaos emeralds specifically)
has primarily a purplish color scheme.
and is a mammal.
....that's right.
fang is a proto rouge the bat.
Fang is actually way better
Why not have both?
I like my tits in bats ok
Bimbofication
@@Liggliluff Competitive balance
I love how it's basically virtua fighter but with looney toons aesthetics and sonic characters.
Fighting Vipers, actually. Same engine.
@@RukoHanaji and also a similar engine to virtua fighters 2.
Both have a similar engine to virtua fighters 2, but fighting vipers used a modified version of the virtua fighters 2 engine and sonic the fighters used a modified version of the fighting vipers engine.
I can't believe this arcade cabinet was that rare. I still remember playing this arcade cabinet at a summer camp I attended when I was still in elementary school (I think I just finished fourth grade at the time; I'm 22 y/o now btw). There's a lot of people bashing this game, and while it may have some design flaws and pales in comparison to more robust fighters, this arcade cabinet was by far the most popular at the camp. There was always a group of kids lined up to try and play and another group that surrounded the player to spectate.
Metal Sonic was always the character that everyone hyped up. He was infamously too difficult, and whenever someone would actually reach him, other kids would start screaming and shouting out of excitement. One time, a kid got to Metal Sonic and ran out of quarters; he also was pissed off that he kept losing. I happened to be the next person in line, and instead of restarting the run from the beginning, I took over where he left off at Metal Sonic. My memory is a little vague on the events that transpired, but I think nobody really expected me to win; I'm pretty sure I was in the youngest group at the camp. But what I do remember is that I actually managed to beat Metal Sonic and man, that felt so fucking amazing. I remember I raised my fists in the air after winning and everyone around me started screaming and were literally jumping up and down. The camp counselors had to be called in to try and calm everyone down lol
It may be a subpar fighting game when compared to the standards at the time, but for the kids, this game was an absolute blast and made me always look forward to going to camp :)
Wholesome!
Funny how me and my 2 brothers had the same reaction when I beat Metal Sonic, they didn’t actually expected me to beat him, we where screaming like banshees haha, they had an arcade with this game in a bar near my house, I didn’t know it was that rare, There was also one with Metal slug, It’s also a really cool and hard game, we would go crazy for it too haha
Shallow fighting game? Really? This game plays just like Virtua Fighter or Fighting Vipers (Well after all it was developed by AM2) There's even evading in this game, I also like the idea of limited shields it makes the game more offence based. Also for a 1996 game it really had good graphics but not as good as Virtua Fighter 3 that was on another level but still something that could not be 100% recreated on the weak consoles from that era! Honestly the gameplay of Sonic The Fighters is actually very good if you learn how it works just like Virtua Fighter also here's a fun fact: Yu Suzuki the creator of the Virtua Fighter and Shenmue series worked as a producer on Sonic The Fighters.
If I can beat the game, on hard mode, without learning any of that, it is shallow.
Billiam That's just the A.I in arcade mode some fighting games have a not very challenging A.I, after all a fighting game is not supposed to be only a single player experience.
For anyone how is interested here's a video a guy made about the competitive aspect of Sonic The Fighters: ruclips.net/video/kqFYIssBGL0/видео.html
Okay, that's fair, but I'm reviewing this game in 2018. I couldn't find anyone to play with on Xbox Live. Therefore, the single player experience is really the only thing that this game has to offer anymore. I appreciate your comment. If I make videos on anymore older multiplayer games, I'll be sure to be more clear about that in the future.
Ok, also nice editing by the way i also liked how you mentioned some facts that are obscure to some like Bean being inspired from a character from Dynamite Dux, I wish more people saw Sonic The Fighters more like fighting game instead of just a Sonic game.
SegaSonic the hedgehog wasn't totally a Japanese exclusive, I remember playing it as a kid in London's Sega World in the mid 90's.
Bmo Beemo It was probably an import
There was also one at the basement arcade in Hamley's toy store, London.
Got to play it, only time i've ever seen it in person.
That's probably the same cabinet I played. When SegaWorld Trocadero shut down they sold their assets to the highest bidder and Hamley's probably took it for a while before they sold it off too.
Billiam It wasn't an import, cabinets were officially released in NA and EUR, it's just the game was never translated.
I was thinking that, but was there anything to translate in those games? Most of it was in English.
"The association with Sonic R made me believe that this game was a hot mess"
How?
sonic 1 and 2 were on arcades with lives being replaced with coins and a timer ticking down
Yeah, but they weren't original arcade games? They were ported to arcade?
@@Liggliluff yes
>Sonic the Fighters
>doesn't show Super Sonic, tell you how to play as him, or tell you what's super about him
>*triggered*
On a serious note, the game is not challenging if you just aspire to win a playthrough, so I don't totally blame you for finding it shallow and doing little investigation, but if you're going to do a video about it, at least a *cursory glance* at online info would be prudent. You basically told us, "I'm bad at basic button combinations and don't care to take a moment to 'git gud,' so I spammed punches and found out that the single-player campaign is, in fact, built according to its target demographic, i.e. young children."
I have played it against humans via Sonic Gems Collection, and it is just as robust a fighting game as others of its era. It has multiple grabs per character, evasion, attacks from evasion, zip-arounds (Evade at point-blank range to shuffle quickly to the opponent's backside.), shields, shield-breakers (and the dynamic of having a shield broken if you are shielding when grabbed), basic combos, extended combos, differing strength, defense, and speed per character, a small and insignificant, but present competitive meta . . . Honestly, if it had been developed into an actual series like, say, Street Fighter, it'd still have a very active community of "oldfags" just like all the other original fighting games.
You can treat it as shallow if you're only evaluating the single-player campaign, only concerned for completion, and not counting Super Sonic as an adequate incentive to play well (which is not entirely unfair; while it is very satisfying for a moment, it's a short-lived experience, even moreso than Super Sonic gameplay usually is), but no, sorry, what you discussed is not very intuitive to describing the game as a whole.
ivaldi13 I would say 10 is the best age to start this as anything below that and you won’t understand the concepts of comboes enough to deal with metal without button mashing and you will likely lose or run out of time during the final boss (fighting mech eggman)
I guess any game, no matter how shitty, will have its fans that defend it. Someone once told me Shaq Fu wasn't that bad and just needed time and knowledge of mechanics. To each their own I guess.
@@mcfry13 I guess some people can't put time and effort into a really goo game. To each his own I guess
@@mcfry13 But here is the thing, you can't fully know if a game is good unless you play it the way it was meant to be played. I mean, he didn't play it as an arcade game to spend a quarter on, but as a regular console fighting game
@@mcfry13 and arbereshe: I didn't say that the game was particularly good. I didn't say that I was a fan of it. My position is that it had potential, could've been developed into something impactful, and that this video doesn't adequately represent the game as such.
You are victims of a false dichotomy, insisting that any dispute with the video's content is tantamount to fanatical defense and praise of the game. It's not. I'm not. That's all that there is to it.
Segasonic the hedgehog is an arcade game.
Thank you for repeating something I said in the video
Billiam actually segasonic was featuring classic sonic ( that applies to sonic the fighters too ) so modern sonic has no place on wreck it Ralph because there was no modern sonic game in that arcade.
BTW thanks for replying.
HighSchoolLevel M E M E S T A R no he just said that I said what he said.
SegaSonic Popcorn?
*+Billiam* Well, maybe you should've not phrased it as though it was a "joke" how Sonic "didn't" have an Arcade game. You did make it sound like you weren't aware of the SegaSonic the Hedgehog or the Arcade ports of the trilogy.
Honey is definitely an interesting character cause she was originally a human character that was redesign into something else entirely for a game she didn't appear in initially and was given a role in the comics. She is one hell of an anomaly.
Honestly, you sound like Sonic.
*It's spooky*
"Sonic Central"
*Gust of wind bursts out of my phone, chills of nostalgia shivers down my spine... And I vomit.*
Wait honey the cat is a real character
Remember to turn on Notifications for my videos! A lot of people have been telling me they haven't seen the past few videos of mine.
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Billiam Dude I'll gladly play Sonic the Fighters with you! :D
play sonic riders
Rapid Motion are clay models not 3D?
Rapid Motion Yeahh, but I wasn’t saying that was the first time? I was just making a joke about it looking weird- a plushie or figurine would have worked too
NO JOKE I SAW ONE OF THE CABINETS IN A HOCKEY IN PENNSYLVANIA AND I HAD A PIC OF IT
I remember it being in the Colonial Commons Mall in Harrisburg when I was a kid. Such a shame they replaced their fun arcade. The East Mall still has one arcade the last time I visited at least.
Yeah It was right around Harrisburg it was in a hockey rink
Whenever you mention Sonic R i can feel my soul screamin out in agony from the pain of the memories attatched to it. Great vid btw
There were actually Arcade versions of Sonic 1 and 2 Billiam!!
Proof. (Its not form Nick Arcade)
info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(arcade_game)
info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_2_(arcade_game)
simtek34 oh wowew
That’s actually pretty cool
That's a little childish to insult Honey and the game.
I'm sure the game will get over it
I think his response to Honey was more of an observation, than an insult.
Honey's a character from Fighting Vipers, who got sonic-afied for STF.
She's noticably overdesigned and unfitting; that's 'cause she wasn't conceived with the sonic-style in mind.
Nothing wrong with that!
Plus, it's not *childish* to have an opinion on a game. The review was mostly fair.
(Tho I think he should've tried the multiplayer. It's unfair to judge an old fighter for it's old AI)
I can agree Honey is one of those characters that can transcend more than one game or an entirely different medium. She might be my favorite character with that one aspect alone XD
JessePajamas wrong place Buddy.
0:53
If anyone’s wondering, that arcade cabinet and image is at The Galloping Ghost in Brookfield, IL. They got some pretty rare shit, including Primal Rage 2 and the unfinished Beavis & Butthead game. I make a trip there every month or so.
2:20 wait so if sonic was in the flim in wreck it Ralph
WHY IS HE NOT IN HIS CLASSIC DESIGNS AND HIS MODERN DESIGN
I never realized the Sonic The Fighters cabinet was so rare, I have personally played two of those cabinets, one at the Gameworks in Las Vegas, and one at Galloping Ghost in Brookfield, IL
The plot (as far as I can tell); Eggman has rebuilt his Death Egg fortress, and the only way to destroy it is to fly there on a rocket powered by Chaos Emeralds. However, to get the emeralds, Sonic and company have to participate in a martial arts tournament.
0:28
*oh god the nostalgia...*
Aw aw aw.
10 Fighters if you count Metal Sonic and Honey the Cat.
At the Edmonton airport I remember seeing a sonic championship cabinet
There was a mall ice skating rink I went to as a kid that had a Sonic Championship cabinet. I went again recently, and it was no longer there. Crazy considering how rare the machines are.
I was surprised to find out so many people didn't know about this game. I remember playing the heck out of it when I was little, and I loved it.
sonic the fighters was a game i played A LOT as a kid, but never got passed metal sonic ;-;
"You press one button to win"
Tell that to hardest mode.
6:28 and you do know that art is from the official comics right?
Plus you forgot super sonic.
Super sonic is trash and bot worth mentioning go watch someone else whiney ass
My local bowling alley actually had a sonic the fighters cabinet in it for the longest time. Sadly it disappeared some years ago and I’ve yet to see another one since.
The mall closest to my home had the arcade cabinet for the game before. Didn't know how rare it was. The mall was quite small. I played it a few times when waiting for my mom to finish the groceries.
Sonic the fighters Remake roster: sonic tails knuckles amy mighty ray espio charmy vector fang bean bark carrottia bearenger hocke-wulf heavy-bomb tiara speedy trip honey breezie
Bosses: eggman battle kukku XV mecha sonic
DLC characters: metal sonic metal knuckles tails doll surge kit dr.starline mach max sharps
I used to spam knuckle's grab that leaves him behind the enemy
0:11 umm he did have an arcade game. Sega sonic the hedgehog. My theory is that they logged in the machine realizing it should only be in Japan unplugged the machine and sonic escaped on time.
This was such a trip of nostalgia, this was the first fighting game I ever beat I was like 8 at the time but still.... big achievement
Knuckles Chaotix not being on Gems Collection was also a technical issue. Working with 32X code isn't the same as working with Mega Drive code, to the point that to this day no emulator can run KC perfectly. I could only imagine how much worse it was when Gems Collection was being put together 13-14 years ago.
Holy shit, this was really that rare? I remember playing this somewhere on a vacation trip here in the U.S. when I was a kid. Pretty sure I played as Amy and basically just spammed her throw because it was hilarious. She would point behind her opponent and act freaked out, they would panic and look behind themselves, and then she would fucking cheap shot them with a mallet XD.
Little did we all know that Fang would actually return in Sonic Superstars. That was a surprise.
Honestly I think Honey's design is really cute
Sonic 1 DID get an actual arcade release as an arcade cabinet. If I remember rightly there was only about 3 or 4 zones though and they all had a strict time limit on them.
Bowser was in WreckItRalph as well.
Gameworks in Seattle used to have a US Cabinet, but it disappeared from the floor years ago.
Sonic in wreck it ralph? The same thing can be said about bowser from the mario series too. 26 second in and already I found something incorrect. Bowser is from an arcade game? Wow....
Original Gamer is this video about bowser?
Plus there are 4 different Mario kart arcade games 🙃
VS. Super Mario Bros. is a thing
Why is the pac man ghost in it?????
Knucks Because Pac-Man.
Reminder that you can easily duck or sidestep and punish the simple punch combo. The game masks the technical stuff with the simple stuff more than any other fighting game
I was actually lucky enough to find, and play one of these cabinets to the end at this one random arcade we went to. Super cool!
I've played the arcade cabinet, you can find it at Galloping Ghost in Illinois. They also have the other rare sonic game there... I was so happy to finally play both on at an arcade.
Wow, the cabinet is that rare? I went to a skating rink in Philadelphia a couple years back. They had a game room, Sonic Championship was sitting there next to a Ms Pac Man, and I got pics to prove. Crazy.
I remember seeing sonic the fighters in a little restaurant in New Mexico on a family vacation when I was little
I stumbled across the machine at sega world in London on the one and only trip to it.
The arcade cabinet was completely white but on the screen was sonic fighting espio.
It blew my mind as a kid.
Didn't know the arcade cabinet of Championship was so rare... Played it all the time at my local skating rink when I was a kid, lol
There is a Sonic arcade game Segasonicthehedgehog
Thank you fro repeating what I said in the video
There was also an arcade version of the original Sonic The Hedgehog for the Sega Mega Play Arcade System.
yeah it's a shame it's not in any collectors editions, and was not in the genesis titles. honestly i'd prefer this over 3d blast.
shadowboy 2 The arcade Sonic 1 or Sonic The Fighters?
S.C.H 2.8 not to sound rude but does sonic the fighters look like an isometric game to you?
Actually, I saw the first sonic game at an arcade
Unfortunately when I went there recently it was broken and needed maintenance
I remember seeing the arcade cabinet of this game at a Kmart in Williamsburg VA about 15 years ago.
I'd be interested in an "Archie Sonic was Weird" video. It might even be the best of the Archie Sonic retrospective videos.
Wreck it Ralph was in Sonic All Star Racing Transformed...so yeah
I remember finding the arcade at the luxor in Vegas. they also had the F-zero arcade, but it was out of service.
I played Sonic champions in arcade yesterday at Lavergne Tennessee and the stores name is game Galaxy
This game was once at West Edmonton Mall
It really is called Sonic Championship
6:10 she was cut for raisins 🤣😂
bro dont worry they laugh on the outside but your pro in the inside
When I went to camp there was a roller skating rink near by that had this cabinet back in 2004 and my friends and I spent the whole night playing
The Beachcomber, in Cape Cod, MA, used to have a Sonic Fighters Cabinet.
Funny enough this arcade caninet was at my local Chuck E. Cheese. I didn’t know how rare it was
There were sonic arcade cabinets. I used to play one at my dentist office waiting room.
You've probably heard this already but Rosie The Rascal was a UK Sonic Comic thing. She was introduced in the comics (By fleetway i think?) under that name. I played it back when Segaworld was still a thing in London god... almost 20 years ago. Their cabinet was so nice...
There's this arcade that used to be near my house when I was younger that had the cabinet for sonic fighters
The final boss in this game is probably one of the worst in the series, even with only 15 seconds on the timer, I have never lost to it, it's such a disappointment.
Well, we're talking about classic Robotnik after all. At that time it was very pathetic
Metal Sonic could be considered the real final boss of the game. His level is listed as "Final Stage" at the bottom of the screen, and he's by far the toughest character. Eggman's level is listed as "Bonus Stage" and if you lose, you still get to submit your clear time to the in-game leaderboard.
Metal is the final boss, Eggman is the bonus finally get to beat the shit out of him mode
There actually was a sonic championship cabinet at my local theater's arcade back in the day
There is a game called sonic the hedge hog arcade. And segasonic was first seen in 3d in sonic 2.
7:09 just like sonic forces!
Yes, you shall recognize Sonic CD for its greatness.
There are a whole bunch of sonic arcade games trust me he belong there
She was going to be put in the game, but was cut.... for RAISONS
6:08
You could argue that “same button” claim for any other fighting game if you just didn’t take the time to learn the characters and pass it off as repetition and being shallow but hey that’s just a thought
Never heard of this, but I’m really into finding out about strange video games like this.
Amazing video, Billiam! Sorry I haven't been around for a while, because I haven't been getting notified at all.
The original Sonic The Hedgehog WAS released in arcades on Sega Mega Play hardware. I own one. The sequel was released, too.
The fact that Sonic unironically colabed with Garfield blows my mind
I recall finding a Sonic The Fighters cabinet at a Chuck E Cheese joint.
The Chuck E. Cheese's in my hometown had the Sonic Championship cabinet, and I'd play it a lot and take names against the other 9 year olds lol
believe it or not I have played this game on a arcade cabinet at my local arcade Galloping Ghost. Cool to know its so rare
No joke, this was my introduction to Sonic games as a kid. I played it in an arcade in Seattle and never found it anywhere else.
I have Sonic the Fighters on my PS3 and I kicked a lot of butt online. Sonic Team needs to get to work on a Sonic the Fighters 2.
Mario was mentioned in wreck it Ralph. And browser was in it. But I've never heard of a Mario arcade game.
There was a sonic championship cabinet back in the Chuckie Cheese I used to go to.
Wow. I’m lucky.
Fighting Metal Sonic was absolute hell.
The first Sonic game was actually made into an arcade game in Japan to introduce the character
The video rental store around the corner from my house growing up had the Japanese cabinet and a Pac-Mania machine. I have no idea how they got their hands on the former.
In the second Wreck It Ralph, the owner of the arcade mentions having money trouble, he should’ve sold the game if it’s that rare.
I had no idea this game was so rare. I am from a small town in NC, and a Pizza Inn had this game.
I had no idea the cabinet was so rare! There was one at our local bowling alley for years, and a friend of mine ended up working there so we played this game a truly unforgivable amount, which was once.
I saw Sonic Championship in an arcade window in Missouri. Granted the arcade was closed sadly so I couldn’t play it.
I played this game in some restaurant several years ago then never saw it since until this video. I genuinely think it’s a good game especially since I was obsessed with sonic back then
I've seen plenty of Sonic arcade machines. In fact The first time I played sonic was in one arcade machine. It was Sonic 3.
I actually found a Sonic Championship machine in an arcade before when I visited my grandmother in Virginia. Had no idea it was so rare. I actually managed to beat the whole... story mode, I guess you would call it? And let me just say: Screw Metal Sonic.