I think you guys need to get Kyle Berkshire into the testing lab. That would be a very interesting video or video series to fit him for another set of Callaway's with Ian and Matt's fitting expertise.
I've been making my own "jumbo" grips for years. I'm 6'4" with big hands. I also had a high school basketball injury to my left thumb which caused problems with being able to utilize the normal left hand grip with the thumb down the shaft. I can only release the clubhead if I grip (left hand) like a baseball bat and then put the right hand over it as per usual. I took the inner tube from a semi and cut 1" wide strips and then wrapped them right over top over the old grip. I even added a narrow strip on the underside for alignment. They look like the old leather wraps (very cool) and are tacky no matter the conditions. There's no doubt they are big. However, most people don't notice until they hold one. Then their eyes pop open!
Love this video in particular because of the "why" discussion hypothesizing why DeChambeau might be trying to use this stuff. That kind of content is super interesting!
This is more educational than even you guys know. Feels of grips vs shaft shoutness and droop deflection. I think these things can be applied to e everyone. Without the Texas rebar. Lol
Great video. You could literally hear the difference in impact with the Z cord grips and the jumbo max. I would have never thought that the grip would change it that dramatically.
Some folks need the feel of a softer profile to time things. Whenever I go stiffer I actually start pulling it real bad... Contrary to popular belief of stiffer going straighter or fading. All depends on the player...... Awesome review and great bit of knowledge about the softer grip masking the harshness of very stiff shafts. I’ve always thought that. CP2’s do a great job of that. CP2’s feel like they torque around a bit though...
Awesome guys 👍 X7s now so passe' 😂 have played S300 and X100 and could always feel them bend in the downswing (not a good feeling). Now playing c-taper 130X and very little to no bend felt in downswing with result being less dispersion.
I recently got fitted for some Mizuno Hot Metal Pros. The shaft optimizer recommended a senior shaft, I’m 49 with a 75 swing speed on an iron. I really didn’t like the whippiness of the shaft. Tried different shafts and felt very comfortable with the Project X 120 gram 6.0 stiff shaft with a midsize Golf Pride +4 ALIGN grip. I played a few rounds with my irons and absolutely killing that ball. 7 iron flies 170 yards and pretty straight. Previously my 7 iron only got 150 yards out of it Get fitted. And play with what “feels” good for you.
Ian have you ever done a video on the difference driver loft makes? I’m sure you have but can’t find it..interested to see if I’m playing the correct loft
Another cracking vid. What a team - Ian expertise & analysis. And Matt's golf skills & ability to smash almost anything. Sure i'll tune in one week to see Ian - "This week we're trying a shaft made of overcooked spaghetti". Matt - bang, as yet again hits a mid-iron 180+ straight.
I love that Bryson thinks out the box!! Golf needs a good kick. I’m the same way. I switched from the conventional two plain swing three years ago to Moe Norman’s single plain. It’s way different I’m 68 and I’m playing my best golf of my life
Enjoyed this! That was a good looking ball flight w the CP grips. Surprised me tbh. Hope those Forged Tecs are doing well at the shop. I really enjoyed testing them
Super cool ! Interesting when matt went to the cord grip the toe was down slightly. My buddy hits a high fade plays off 12 struggles with a push. have tried to get him away from oversize grips I think a thinner grp will help him come back left a little. Thanks guys want to see you boys outside. Cheers from Norcal.
I asked a question on a live chat one day about if you knew anything about any graphite companies looking at building an AMT. I play the steel AMT now and love it. Glad to see we think alike! Haha. I would love a graphite shaft like that due to wrist and elbow injuries.
106 mph club head speed with my 7i and am struggling to find these raw anywhere. Where can I find these or something else to combat my 9000 rpm spin rate and 180 ft apex with my 7i. Currently in the C-Taper lite XS. If these really are back ordered two months, I need something else to play.
I thoroughly enjoy you guys and your content. I wanted to ask two questions and wasn't sure where to put the questions: 1. Aerotech Steelfiber iron shafts - Used by Kuchar and Snedeker among others. I'd love to see you guys test/review these. Maybe the best of all worlds between steel and graphite shafts for irons. I found significant performance increase in numbers when I went for a fitting recently, but would love to see what you guys do with them. 2. SST PUREing - Does this provide benefits that are worth the cost? Thanks for your work guys!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! When I read the article about Texas Rebar, it was just a prototype at the time. If Matty was playing the same lie angle as Bryson (71°), the big grip will be required or he will turn it over/borderline duck hook way too easy. Awesome review!
If you can dig up a set or even just one Aldila RIP Tour 115g X-Stiff iron shafts, you might find they are even stiffer than the rebars. I would be curious to see a comparison as I use them in my irons and love them.
In 1969 Jack Nicklaus wrote a book "my life in golf " At the end of the instruction section he states regarding the distance advantage he has " one day in the future , a 250 lb 6'5" golf athlete will come along , drive the ball 350 yards , when this day comes the courses we play will become obsolete overnight with regard to the challenge presented to the professional " and 41 years later , Jack's prediction has been realised.
I'm curious on if the swing weight was kept the same with both grips or if by adding the heavier jumbo grip and 4 wraps of tape if it didn't change the whole balance point of the club, making it essentially backweighted quite a bit. I find that I tend to be more consistent when weight is added to the handle part of the clubs with a jumbo grip. I'd love to see a video comparison on this and mainly the science behind backweighting clubs and how that affects delivery for some.
What are your thoughts on using different flexes through the set. Say stiffer is shorter clubs for greater control and maybe a little softer in longer irons to help achieve a higher ball flight? Thanks for the great content!
This is more proof that graphite will be the future. You can cover every need and as you’ve mentioned once they can do so much more to a graphite shaft in terms of variables to switch how it feels and plays
Ian, I didn't know they only created one shaft one length, I went to their website but there is nothing on either of their rebar shafts(iron or drv). I'm surprised it's only 122grm, is that before cutting/trimming? Do you have any other specs on it like the torques -butt/mid/tip. The stiffness sure didn't seem to effect the ball height, interesting.
Reminds me of my tennis comp days. Very stiff rackets are too powerful at the elite men's level because it's too difficult to keep the ball from flying long - but there is no question the 'smash factor' equivalent is true; and in golf, I can't see any downside about being long & accurate in full swing clubs. I'd personally play such shafts in an AMT type setup and I play a Mid +4 grip which I love and would never go back to standard
I've set it for years, distance is unlocked in the gym, look at the long drive guys, they look like Linebackers. If you can transfer that strength thru functional training, its a recipe for mashing the ball. I went from 108 club speed to 139mph and 198 -207 ball speed. Just by getting stronger
I think it’s time, the most authoritative RUclips golf channel, sent off an invite to one of the best, most unusual (intelligent) golfers on the planet. I can see it now, A whole day of full on science / tech? Wow!
Would like to see Matt go all out where he would prob start to hook the ball more and see if the thicker grip would stop the hook! That might be why Bryson can swing it so hard now
Can you explain lie angle on the driver. What happens when lie is too flat vs low and how to know lie angle is off? In your last video you said something that the lie angle was off.
Every single Time I take a minute or two I am able to chip away a fraction of my superstitions as a golfer. You are a divine presenc sent to earth by the God of the Golfball, Green and Fairway Trinity
Hey chaps! In this video (ruclips.net/video/MIe8lPGqxIU/видео.html) at 1:32 at bottom right of screen it says Mcilroy's using a 10.5 degree Sim. I thought he used like 7 degrees so what do you reckon is goin on here? Seems a lot of loft for a bomber who hits very 'up' on the ball. Is this maybe to control distance from getting too long with tighter dispersion do you think?
Iomic grips claim thicker and softer grips create torque issues at the grip end of the shaft. Which kind of makes sense if you think about it. I'm not a good enough golfer to test this :( I wonder if you guys have considered it?
The shaft acts like a spring. Springs cannot create energy. It would violate the first law of thermodynamics. Deflection if anything will cause you to lose energy
After seeing this I can only think of one thing, who else wants to see Kyle Berkshire get fit by txg?
Texas Rebar might be the coolest name used in golf equipment.
Very interesting. I would love to see Ian and Bryson talk shop some day
That would be a great conversation to listen in to, only problem would be most of us wouldn't understand a word of what was being said lol
I think you guys need to get Kyle Berkshire into the testing lab. That would be a very interesting video or video series to fit him for another set of Callaway's with Ian and Matt's fitting expertise.
He would do it too he’s all about collaboration
Would love to see you guys test Bryson's Jumbomax Ultralite grips sometime
I've been making my own "jumbo" grips for years. I'm 6'4" with big hands. I also had a high school basketball injury to my left thumb which caused problems with being able to utilize the normal left hand grip with the thumb down the shaft. I can only release the clubhead if I grip (left hand) like a baseball bat and then put the right hand over it as per usual. I took the inner tube from a semi and cut 1" wide strips and then wrapped them right over top over the old grip. I even added a narrow strip on the underside for alignment. They look like the old leather wraps (very cool) and are tacky no matter the conditions. There's no doubt they are big. However, most people don't notice until they hold one. Then their eyes pop open!
Loved this one. Super interesting. Bryson is cool. How about a future interview? Live? Would be awesome.
Very compelling as usual. Can’t believe the effects of different grips.
Love this video in particular because of the "why" discussion hypothesizing why DeChambeau might be trying to use this stuff. That kind of content is super interesting!
3:00 - Ian "The thing is seriously seriously beefed up"...So is Bryson 😂😂😂
So there is method in the madness. Nice insight and knowledge provided. Well done TXG.
This is more educational than even you guys know. Feels of grips vs shaft shoutness and droop deflection. I think these things can be applied to e everyone. Without the Texas rebar. Lol
Matty Boy is amazing. It doesn't really matter what you put in his hands. He's a ball hittin Jesse as Mark Lye would say.
Great video. You could literally hear the difference in impact with the Z cord grips and the jumbo max. I would have never thought that the grip would change it that dramatically.
Matt is our hero. We know he’s up to any challenge, including rebar shafts:)
You guys are fantastic. Mind blown. Amazing how all the variables interact.
Some folks need the feel of a softer profile to time things. Whenever I go stiffer I actually start pulling it real bad... Contrary to popular belief of stiffer going straighter or fading. All depends on the player...... Awesome review and great bit of knowledge about the softer grip masking the harshness of very stiff shafts. I’ve always thought that. CP2’s do a great job of that. CP2’s feel like they torque around a bit though...
Awesome guys 👍 X7s now so passe' 😂 have played S300 and X100 and could always feel them bend in the downswing (not a good feeling). Now playing c-taper 130X and very little to no bend felt in downswing with result being less dispersion.
Excellent content, TXG!! Amazing data supports Bryson's methodology and it's great for golf to have a true trailblazer!
I REALLY want to try that setup, I wonder how long it will take an old man to beef up like Bryson?
and whether I would survive the process!!!!!
Swing looks sick Matt!!
I recently got fitted for some Mizuno Hot Metal Pros. The shaft optimizer recommended a senior shaft, I’m 49 with a 75 swing speed on an iron. I really didn’t like the whippiness of the shaft. Tried different shafts and felt very comfortable with the Project X 120 gram 6.0 stiff shaft with a midsize Golf Pride +4 ALIGN grip. I played a few rounds with my irons and absolutely killing that ball. 7 iron flies 170 yards and pretty straight. Previously my 7 iron only got 150 yards out of it Get fitted. And play with what “feels” good for you.
Ian have you ever done a video on the difference driver loft makes? I’m sure you have but can’t find it..interested to see if I’m playing the correct loft
Another cracking vid. What a team - Ian expertise & analysis. And Matt's golf skills & ability to smash almost anything. Sure i'll tune in one week to see Ian - "This week we're trying a shaft made of overcooked spaghetti". Matt - bang, as yet again hits a mid-iron 180+ straight.
Similar to the nunchuk ideas. Limit variables. Great video guys
It was great to see Brian Urlacher make the big tour this weekend. Only available from certified Home Depot club fitters.
I love that Bryson thinks out the box!! Golf needs a good kick.
I’m the same way. I switched from the conventional two plain swing three years ago to Moe Norman’s single plain.
It’s way different I’m 68 and I’m playing my best golf of my life
Really cool to see the change with the grip. Great content as ever!
Great video. Amazing how the grip change , changed the performance.
Enjoyed this! That was a good looking ball flight w the CP grips. Surprised me tbh. Hope those Forged Tecs are doing well at the shop. I really enjoyed testing them
Super cool ! Interesting when matt went to the cord grip the toe was down slightly. My buddy hits a high fade plays off 12 struggles with a push. have tried to get him away from oversize grips I think a thinner grp will help him come back left a little.
Thanks guys want to see you boys outside. Cheers from Norcal.
Fascinating stuff coming from shaft manufacturers these days, (this and the Accra wedge shaft I'm thinking about). Great video guys!
Your channel really is the best at the minute.
I asked a question on a live chat one day about if you knew anything about any graphite companies looking at building an AMT. I play the steel AMT now and love it. Glad to see we think alike! Haha. I would love a graphite shaft like that due to wrist and elbow injuries.
106 mph club head speed with my 7i and am struggling to find these raw anywhere. Where can I find these or something else to combat my 9000 rpm spin rate and 180 ft apex with my 7i. Currently in the C-Taper lite XS. If these really are back ordered two months, I need something else to play.
That fact about Karsten blew my mind! He himself also had an engineering degree.
Hey guys. I'm going to get fit for new irons, but just sold my old clubs. How will this affect my fitting? Currently playing off 14.
Can you please test the putter shaft by LA Golf as well? Thanks!
Very interesting how much of a difference the grip had on the feel and results. Fun video! ✌
I thoroughly enjoy you guys and your content. I wanted to ask two questions and wasn't sure where to put the questions:
1. Aerotech Steelfiber iron shafts - Used by Kuchar and Snedeker among others. I'd love to see you guys test/review these. Maybe the best of all worlds between steel and graphite shafts for irons. I found significant performance increase in numbers when I went for a fitting recently, but would love to see what you guys do with them.
2. SST PUREing - Does this provide benefits that are worth the cost?
Thanks for your work guys!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! When I read the article about Texas Rebar, it was just a prototype at the time. If Matty was playing the same lie angle as Bryson (71°), the big grip will be required or he will turn it over/borderline duck hook way too easy. Awesome review!
When they coming out, been waiting for these to hit the market!
Have you guys covered puring shafts in any of the q&a’s? I haven’t gotten through all of them but would love to know if you’ve touched on it.
If you can dig up a set or even just one Aldila RIP Tour 115g X-Stiff iron shafts, you might find they are even stiffer than the rebars. I would be curious to see a comparison as I use them in my irons and love them.
Great insights as usual guys. Would be interested to see how the Rebar Shaft + Jumbo Grip performs with Matt's T100s!
At this point I think Matt could hit an actual rebar shaft fine
In 1969 Jack Nicklaus wrote a book "my life in golf " At the end of the instruction section he states regarding the distance advantage he has " one day in the future , a 250 lb 6'5" golf athlete will come along , drive the ball 350 yards , when this day comes the courses we play will become obsolete overnight with regard to the challenge presented to the professional " and 41 years later , Jack's prediction has been realised.
I'm curious on if the swing weight was kept the same with both grips or if by adding the heavier jumbo grip and 4 wraps of tape if it didn't change the whole balance point of the club, making it essentially backweighted quite a bit. I find that I tend to be more consistent when weight is added to the handle part of the clubs with a jumbo grip. I'd love to see a video comparison on this and mainly the science behind backweighting clubs and how that affects delivery for some.
What is your thoughts of kyle Berkshire using a regular flex in his long driver
It’s a long drive competition, you only need 1 to hit the grid.
He plays a much stiffer shaft in his other driver to minimize the misses.
What are your thoughts on using different flexes through the set. Say stiffer is shorter clubs for greater control and maybe a little softer in longer irons to help achieve a higher ball flight? Thanks for the great content!
This is more proof that graphite will be the future. You can cover every need and as you’ve mentioned once they can do so much more to a graphite shaft in terms of variables to switch how it feels and plays
Ian, I didn't know they only created one shaft one length, I went to their website but there is nothing on either of their rebar shafts(iron or drv). I'm surprised it's only 122grm, is that before cutting/trimming? Do you have any other specs on it like the torques -butt/mid/tip. The stiffness sure didn't seem to effect the ball height, interesting.
Reminds me of my tennis comp days. Very stiff rackets are too powerful at the elite men's level because it's too difficult to keep the ball from flying long - but there is no question the 'smash factor' equivalent is true; and in golf, I can't see any downside about being long & accurate in full swing clubs. I'd personally play such shafts in an AMT type setup and I play a Mid +4 grip which I love and would never go back to standard
How do these compare to the Aldila RIP Tour X-stiff iron shafts?
Do you think having the supersize grips makes the rebar more playable thru kind of counter balancing?
I've set it for years, distance is unlocked in the gym, look at the long drive guys, they look like Linebackers. If you can transfer that strength thru functional training, its a recipe for mashing the ball. I went from 108 club speed to 139mph and 198 -207 ball speed. Just by getting stronger
I'm curious what the weight difference is between the grips, and whether or not that made any difference to the swing weight
Very cool! Thanks for that!!!
How much does jumbo cp2 change swing weight reference z cord?
I think it’s time, the most authoritative RUclips golf channel, sent off an invite to one of the best, most unusual (intelligent) golfers on the planet. I can see it now, A whole day of full on science / tech? Wow!
Good stuff thanks guys!
Man, Matt’s swing is looking great. Has he been working on his transition at the top? It looks much smoother and more natural.
I would like to see a video about the effect of shaft puring. Do you guys do so and how dramatic is the difference?
Wish you could try brysons ultralite xl grips... 🙂👍 great vid!
Quality video guys
Bryson went hard on those BigMac's... dirty bulk.. Time for a cut
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man i would love to try these such a cool idea.
'I wouldn't put anything past him...' Bryson or Matt, both are machines yet true to themselves
Been waiting for this
I think I could use a set of these, you guys have these in stock??
they haven't been produced for sale, we just got a sample to test
Ty guys nice job!!!!
great job gents.
Where can I get these? I went to their website and I don't see them
Would like to see Matt go all out where he would prob start to hook the ball more and see if the thicker grip would stop the hook! That might be why Bryson can swing it so hard now
Uh oh!! Club, shaft, grip change Matty!!?
With all those good shafts on the market, can you cover the torque and flex aspects? ;)
The Z Cord (50.5g) is 30g lighter than the CP2 Jumbo (81g). That is 7.5 points of SW difference. That has to have a huge effect.
Can you explain lie angle on the driver. What happens when lie is too flat vs low and how to know lie angle is off? In your last video you said something that the lie angle was off.
FYI...the jumbomax grip Bryson uses has a very firm feel and is around 50 grams.
Every single Time I take a minute or two I am able to chip away a fraction of my superstitions as a golfer.
You are a divine presenc sent to earth by the God of the Golfball, Green and Fairway Trinity
He played about 5 different shaft profiles last year. Including x7 and s400s in his irons.
New PX ultra stiff coming soon for the rare bird like Matty.
The efficiency jump is worth exploring further...
What happened to testing the Paderson driver shafts?
Is this shaft available to the public? I can't seem to find it. Anyone have a link?
they don't produce it for the public
@@clubchampionmedia unfortunate! Thanks for the reply!
@@clubchampionmedia if it is priced in the ballpark of other graphite iron shafts it seems it would be a good putter shaft on a budget.
It’s basically an iron on the end of a thick wooden broom handle 🤪
Hey chaps! In this video (ruclips.net/video/MIe8lPGqxIU/видео.html) at 1:32 at bottom right of screen it says Mcilroy's using a 10.5 degree Sim. I thought he used like 7 degrees so what do you reckon is goin on here? Seems a lot of loft for a bomber who hits very 'up' on the ball. Is this maybe to control distance from getting too long with tighter dispersion do you think?
Iomic grips claim thicker and softer grips create torque issues at the grip end of the shaft. Which kind of makes sense if you think about it. I'm not a good enough golfer to test this :( I wonder if you guys have considered it?
We actually discussed that in the video Gerry, the influence of grip pressure and hand torque. That’s why we also tried the Z-Cord grip.
Matty boy needs to Monday qualify and do a video on it.
How can someone buy these?
For the very best players surely shaft deflection is just bad? The only variable they must want is themselves?
Nice!
If I’m Matty I’m switching to some Texas Rebar and a big ole thick grip
"Are you striking the ball thin, a little fat...."
I really like Bryson, he seems to rip up the rule book but still competes
"....pretty good, on the heel, on the toe...."
love to see an average swing speed player try to hit it and see the results :-)
Karsten Solheim thought a stiffer shaft was a stronger spring.
Some extra pounds to get the best out of this read bar 💪
I never understood the point of shaft "kick" --- if you want to get the ball up in the air easier, add loft or use a lower CG head...
Naw Fam give that to Jimmy "steel in my woods" Walker for a test.
I also think Bryson is trying to reduce spin.
The shaft acts like a spring. Springs cannot create energy. It would violate the first law of thermodynamics. Deflection if anything will cause you to lose energy