UPGRADING from a 5950X to a 10900K

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @arkama67
    @arkama67 3 года назад +15

    put the aida 64 of the 5950x next to the 10900k please

    • @ThePazuzu
      @ThePazuzu 3 года назад +2

      This right here! Using shit games compiled with Intel's compiler and then being like omg my last gen cpu without pcie4 runs awesome is priceless.

    • @xevilmx
      @xevilmx 3 года назад

      @@ThePazuzu What does PCIE gen 4 change?

  • @XxxTheCoolKidxxX
    @XxxTheCoolKidxxX 3 года назад +12

    I like your content but I'm taking this one (and most of your other CPU-related content) with a huge grain of salt. My 5950x/3090Strix rig can maintain 200+ fps easily while using competitive settings. I play in 3440x1440 on a PG35V monitor. The 10900k is a great CPU because of the product price and availability compared to its competition. It's not the King, nor is the 10900K an upgrade. I will also never recommend that anyone build a 5950X rig because of its price/gaming performance; you either want it or you need it. I've learned a great few things from your channel, but I feel like you omit information in your 10900K/5950X related uploads.

    • @yov023
      @yov023 3 года назад +1

      What ram specs you running at ?

    • @XxxTheCoolKidxxX
      @XxxTheCoolKidxxX 3 года назад

      @@yov023 I don't mind sharing my specs, but this isn't my channel, and I'm not known here.

    • @XxxTheCoolKidxxX
      @XxxTheCoolKidxxX 3 года назад +2

      @@sagerdood I'm happy with my system. I was fortunate enough to be in a position to buy the best hardware available and build a banger of a PC =)

  • @robsternasher
    @robsternasher 3 года назад +4

    That building has killed my FPS everywhere in warzone apart from farmland and mili base like you said, use to get 200-230 1440p everywhere now I can barely pull 200 with my 5950x/3080😂

  • @youngtwang
    @youngtwang 3 года назад +6

    Great videos man. Have learned a ton from them. Can’t stop watching...Was the 5950x tuned to all core oc? Or pbo2? What were the final settings? Curious about the comparison, since you laid out the tuned 10900k.

    • @youngtwang
      @youngtwang 3 года назад

      I’ve watched them all. Didn’t see the final settings. Could you let me know the name of the video you saw it in?

    • @ramair325
      @ramair325 3 года назад +3

      @@youngtwang he wants you to buy a "consult" so he can charge you $250. but truth is you dont need it. just use *DRAM Calculator for Ryzen 1.7.3 by 1usmus* .
      If you dont know what memory chips you have you probably dont have b-die But you can check using *Thaiphoon Burner* just use the "read" button.
      Setting ram timings for ryzen will make a huge difference and with a little bit of time and effort even a novice can do this very easily with these tools. Take small steps and remember to save a bios profile incase you have to reset your CMOS (bios) back to defaults to get the pc to power on again.

    • @ramair325
      @ramair325 3 года назад

      @@sagerdood LOL wut. no one was talking about better or worse than anything.. What are you on about?

    • @jepulis6674
      @jepulis6674 3 года назад +1

      @@sagerdood Actually Intel latency is horrible with 10-core loads. Way worse than 5950x with 16. Read up.

  • @hemulen8581
    @hemulen8581 3 года назад +7

    So every 10900k can do 5200mhz on the cores, and 4800mhz on the ring? Does some know what the "average" voltage people use for that? I can't hit that without going over 1.4.

    • @paulotakahama
      @paulotakahama 3 года назад +1

      That is strange... Even my 10850k can do 5.2ghz 1.35v.

    • @LeafGreenHDD
      @LeafGreenHDD 3 года назад +2

      try with ht off

    • @ramair325
      @ramair325 3 года назад +2

      its not ONLY the cpu you have to think about here, you have different mobo's psu's and cooling. these can all effect your overclock. If you have done your research and have a good mobo,psu, then i would look into cooling(cooling is generally the biggest factor get those delta's down LOW). or even possibly your ambient room temp is just much higher than others. The other thing to remember is "stable" is a very relative term. Stable doing WHAT. every game puts a slightly different type of load on the cpu. so what might be stable for some games might crash every time in a different game.

    • @maulcs
      @maulcs 3 года назад

      Yeah, it's simply not true.

  • @LordBattleSmurf
    @LordBattleSmurf 3 года назад +3

    But isn't the 10900k going to really suffer in 3 years by being on PCIE 3.0? I like to buy the best gaming CPU possible then upgrade the GPU 3-4 years later and keep using the system rather than replacing everything. Trying to decide between 10900k, 10850k, 5900x, and 5800x for CPU bound gaming and the occasional RUclips video/stream, GPU will be 3080 reference from Nvidia.

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 3 года назад +2

      That's if pcie 3.0 cards are not the bottleneck lol pcie 4.0 hasn't shown any results at all vs 3.0 lol your comment is irrelevant just stick with the 10900k like I did

    • @LordBattleSmurf
      @LordBattleSmurf 3 года назад +2

      @@redclaw72666 No shit it's not about current cards, but rather the vastly superior ones coming as soon as 1 year with RDNA 3 that will likely get nerfed performance from PCIE 3.0. Hopper will almost certainly lose performance from 3.0

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 3 года назад

      @@LordBattleSmurf I doubt it but okay lol you do you mate and source lmaooooo? Don't you dare say Moores law your looking at the future waaay too much to judge that but if it makes you feel better go with amd and upgrade with every amd platform lol its that simple but do you really think nvidia or amd will force everyone to use something better than pcie 3.0? Don't think soo bud lol

    • @alfredgamerzzgamers3970
      @alfredgamerzzgamers3970 3 года назад

      @@redclaw72666 facts

  • @jaybee0507
    @jaybee0507 3 года назад +5

    How about minimums like 1% and 0,1% fps? How hard they will be hit on 5950x?

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 3 года назад

      Pretty bad lol they don't do well

  • @terminator9099
    @terminator9099 2 года назад

    Perfect video as usual

  • @GoFasterHD
    @GoFasterHD 3 года назад

    What ya think about the 5950X - 3090 and 4k VR? You think I'm giving up frame rates compared to the Intel?
    MSI x570 GL 5950X ClockTuner 4 Ryzen = P1 4500 - P2 4800 - PX 5ghz
    32gb 3800mhz
    3090ftw3 165/1100
    Dual custom loop
    Predator 4k 120hz
    HP Reverb G2
    Did I go with the wrong platform?

  • @metaking2955
    @metaking2955 3 года назад +5

    My 5900x with 6900xt has 240fps down town with ease

    • @memememine1
      @memememine1 3 года назад

      Yeah would love to see this. If so then I only need to sell my cpu and not my mobo. Otherwise I'll prob be buying an i9

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 3 года назад

      Good troll lol

  • @garrygarrettson4154
    @garrygarrettson4154 3 года назад +2

    have you done any other benches on other games other than warzone comparing those 2 cpus? warzone is definitely weird for zen. if my son would have played more warzone i probably would have gone with the 10900k instead of the 5800x but i didnt come across your channel until after i built him the rig thinking that would be his best option. great content brother as usual

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  3 года назад +2

      Yep long time ago when the 5950X launched, you have the 5950X winning in valorant, CSgo, and division 2. 10900k wins everything else

    • @garrygarrettson4154
      @garrygarrettson4154 3 года назад

      @@FrameChasers copy that ghost rider...amd buyers remorse but i dont think my kid will notice

  • @DeathDeclined
    @DeathDeclined 3 года назад +2

    I really wanna make the switch just hate having to switch everything out

  • @wakingfromslumber9555
    @wakingfromslumber9555 3 года назад +2

    No this is definitely a downgrade and will see diminishing returns on future titles that take advantage of more cores.

  • @ramsesosiris6282
    @ramsesosiris6282 3 года назад +2

    Imagine to have the best of the best rig on the market ,360hz monitor,10900k 5.5ghz,and a cheters with a patato pc 30fps max , comining to ruin your dreams! :D

  • @nikobobich9726
    @nikobobich9726 3 года назад +1

    im getting 185 to 195 in that building on my 5950x with a 3080 and 32 gigs ram playing on 1440

  • @ramair325
    @ramair325 3 года назад +10

    I Genuinely like and respect what your doing here with your channel and like your video's. However not this one and here is why. At the start of this clip you show tha amd cpu is 4.32% faster entering the building, once into the building the amd system is 5.05% slower. One major issue with this clip the amd system was engaging in combat and all the extras from the person and the loot and the dmg icon as well as the boarder of the screen flashing. all of this vs the intel system doing a clean walk though. I i mean it just looks bad reguadless if the results are the same or not. This clip is a bad example and makes it look like a intel sponsored title or something. I genuinely think this is not the case and i know you need dat money but i feel this is a bad look. Best of luck not hating just explaining why i gave the thumbs down for THIS video (not others).

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  3 года назад +1

      I just provide data and findings, up to you if you want to believe it, doesn’t matter to me. I’m here for max FPS, nothing else

    • @GhazUK
      @GhazUK 3 года назад +3

      @@FrameChasers - Doesn't matter to you if your viewers like your content or not? Wow 🤣🤦‍♂️

    • @nightstorm10
      @nightstorm10 3 года назад +2

      @@sagerdood OP made a legitimate point - the tests were not even which resulted in a flawed conclusion. The AMD machine had an engagement with another player, the Intel one did not. This DOES make a difference whether you like to admit it or not. Enough with the AMD bashing.

  • @elliotharrison
    @elliotharrison 3 года назад

    Love the content bro. Surprised how your channel hasn’t blown up yet

  • @adebisi1094
    @adebisi1094 2 года назад

    How many cores does warzone use actually?

  • @dbikeryamaha125
    @dbikeryamaha125 3 года назад +5

    Man you couldn't pay me to make that 'upgrade'

  • @Body6128
    @Body6128 3 года назад +1

    I have a 10850k and AMD Radeon RX 6700xt. How much can I overclock my PC? but so that nothing breaks or I have a system crash all the time. and can you maybe help me with that?

  • @joshjbeats
    @joshjbeats 3 года назад +3

    I have a 5900X and 3090. I have Bdie ram with 57ns in Aida after lowering trfc and tightening a few timings. I get 120-140 in that damn building when I get 190-240 FPS in GPU bound areas. This video was perfect timing.

    • @xlinnaeus
      @xlinnaeus 3 года назад

      Lmaooo bruh. I’ll swap you my 3700x Hynix C/DJR 3733 cl16 kit 😂

    • @joshjbeats
      @joshjbeats 3 года назад +1

      @@xlinnaeus man warzone optimization is such shit it wont even make that much of a difference. i wish i had this system before raven took over and tanked performance.

    • @erosandolina4785
      @erosandolina4785 3 года назад

      @@joshjbeats huh i got min. 180fps in that building with my 5900x and 3080 with 57 ns ram and resolutionscaling to 121%
      U got some filters on or nvidia broadcast?

    • @joshjbeats
      @joshjbeats 3 года назад +1

      @@erosandolina4785 no i dont. i play on 1440p with everything on low and disabled except for high textures. i may have to try a clean install of windows or the game.

    • @jawnys7514
      @jawnys7514 3 года назад

      You should get more than 120-140, i have a 5900x and 3090 with 3800 ram at 56.5 ns and i get 190 in downtonw rarerly below 180, but overall in game it ranges from 175 to 225

  • @GhazUK
    @GhazUK 3 года назад +3

    Your wife's RiG is one of the highest tuned out there? I, As someone in the Firestrike HOF, it would be cool for you to do a benching video on that machine 😉👍

    • @GhazUK
      @GhazUK 3 года назад +1

      Yes - I am a 5950x user.

  • @jmhagle
    @jmhagle 3 года назад

    What are everyone's realistic fps averages lately? I always hear 300 but never see it. My 11900k water-blocked 3080, is in the range of 195-225 90% of the time. The other 10% either down to 190 or above to 235.

    • @jmhagle
      @jmhagle 3 года назад

      Also not overclocked. just standard z590 removing turbo limits and MCE. Also my buddy had a 5900x 6900xt liquid devil and his frames are nearly identical every time we check, maybe just 5 ahead at times (if he's being honest).

    • @Rhomzy
      @Rhomzy 3 года назад

      What res?

    • @jmhagle
      @jmhagle 2 года назад

      @@Rhomzy 1080 pretty low settings

  • @mybsite5697
    @mybsite5697 Год назад

    Why not show the specs of the comparative system - way too many variables to determine that the CPU is the culprit and as of now this issue doesn't arise but perhaps thats drivers

  • @TheDLiT
    @TheDLiT 3 года назад

    ROG STRIX 3090 OC (overclocked with MSI AB), i9-10900k (AI Overclock to 5Ghz), Asus Z-490E, 32 GB Dominator 3600 CL16 - I'm getting 170 FPS in 1080 low/ultra and 1440 low/ultra in Warzone, absolutely no FPS change when switching resolution or settings. Also, in multiplayer I'm getting 270 FPS. This doesn't make sense, and I've tried every optimization and setting trick on RUclips and reddit. Please help me understand why I can't break 200 FPS with this 3090.

  • @Stewzzyy
    @Stewzzyy 3 года назад +1

    I have a i7 4770k with a 1080ti, thinking of getting a 10850k with 3600mhz ram... i got a arctic freezer 2 240mm aio.
    Can anyone reccomend what a good cpu upgrade is if im off the wall with the 10850k

    • @OfficialUknow
      @OfficialUknow 3 года назад

      I upgraded to tht from a 8700 was well worth u need at least a 9900k lvl cpu for this game

  • @RyanAA44
    @RyanAA44 3 года назад +4

    “ Be like water my friend “ loving the content - look forward to sats stream man👍🏻

  • @ejosephsimon
    @ejosephsimon 3 года назад

    Gots a question. i recently became the proud owner of a 10900K 3090 FTW3 rig... what's a good cpu overclock to run daily? & should i overclock my gpu as well ?

    • @Bytrl
      @Bytrl 3 года назад

      Why even bother? Are you running in 480p @ 1000fps on some 1000hz monitor nobody's ever heard of? Lol

  • @dnsean03
    @dnsean03 3 года назад

    im torn between amd and intel for my itx 2nd pc build.. 3080ti either 10850k or 5900x... theres a difference of 440 bucks amd more of course.. opinions?

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  3 года назад +1

      10850k games better when coupled with better ram

    • @dnsean03
      @dnsean03 3 года назад

      @@FrameChasers well what ram should I go with then for it? Need atleast 32gb.. I'm building itx 2nd pc build in corsair 250d with 3080 ti fe

  • @nickyg305
    @nickyg305 3 года назад +5

    "The title is NOT a typo" bro AND you were too easy on the 10900k overclock like theres nothing more to say

  • @johnvandeven2188
    @johnvandeven2188 3 года назад

    I saw more like 195 vs 185. One game. Only one game. Doesn't matter to anyone even competitive gamers.

  • @badazzmorris
    @badazzmorris 3 года назад

    How did you fix the Z590 unify? I have it and it keeps black screen rebooting on any kind of reasonably tuned RAM - it's driving me insane!

    • @Comalogy
      @Comalogy 3 года назад

      update bios, pull the ram OC back step by step until you find the OC your chipset couldn't handle.

  • @udayvickyka1366
    @udayvickyka1366 3 года назад +1

    What type of people bro in i9 11900k also same 178fps avg sometimes and comparing to Ryzen 9 wtf never compare to monster i9 is still child dragon its to far to touch

  • @taiiat0
    @taiiat0 3 года назад +1

    time for Ryzen people to upgrade to a 6950X
    (kek)

  • @Samuel-pf1kw
    @Samuel-pf1kw 3 года назад +2

    Intel fanboy level

  • @yov023
    @yov023 3 года назад

    Hey framechasers I'm trying to lower my ram latency on zen 3 I'm sitting high 50s ns. How low have you seen it go on zen 3?

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 3 года назад

      54ns lol

    • @yov023
      @yov023 3 года назад

      @@redclaw72666 I hit 57 and though I could go low 50s but it seems almost impossible

  • @bombba5359
    @bombba5359 3 года назад +1

    An average 10900k has a SP rating of 63. These will hardly get 5.2ghz all core. You just got lucky and received a golden bin and 2 above average chips. Also your memory latency will not be easy to achieve for other people seeing as most will have a penalty of 2-4 due to memory traces. Ram also is only b die which can achieve this frequency and timings and I suspect not even all bdie kits will run 4000 c17. This all to say that this setup is anything but average and to achieve these results they need the best hardware(Mobo,Cpu,Ram,Psu) and some binning luck even. This isn't Max 5950x vs average 10900k more like very good 10900k setup.

    • @bombba5359
      @bombba5359 3 года назад +1

      @@sagerdood And this isn't even the complete story seeing as I have bought 8 samples and the best out of the bunch was SP 83 and all others were lower. This SP83 chip can run warzone at 5.3Ghz but needs 1.44V LLC6. So I run it at 5.2 with 1.38V LLC6 but almost prime 95 max stable except one core. I have now ordered an z590 apex to see if with the improved load transient delta control I can decrease voltage and improve stability. Also the apex memory traces should give me a reduction of 3-4 on latency and improved stability for higher frequency. I have a 4800c17 bdie kit incoming together with the apex board to see if the higher frequecy tighter timing of the 2x8 can outperform my 4300c17 2x16kit.

    • @youngtwang
      @youngtwang 3 года назад +1

      Keep us posted

    • @bombba5359
      @bombba5359 3 года назад

      @@sagerdood Only the z590 apex and maximus extreme have the feature to give a readout of the min and max voltage during transient. They also have the best power delivery and power plane of all the asus boards. The hero is more focused on extra features besides pure performance while the apex is equal or better than the extreme when it comes to max performance benefits.

    • @bombba5359
      @bombba5359 3 года назад

      @@sagerdood Buildzoid also made a video of some z590 boards which show the actual vcore voltage with the current buos setting for vcore and the llc. On the asus boards he reviewed the llc4 was the best in keeping the delta low in transient but llc5 and llc 6 were still acceptable and have less vdroop. anything above llc6 shouldnt be used. My z490 strix e seems to be giving far less voltage than the msi or gigabyte boards do with the same settings I suspect the lower tier boards performance wise(probably hero is in this category) have bad vdroop and transient response in comparison with msi and gigabyte.

    • @bombba5359
      @bombba5359 3 года назад

      @@sagerdood 2 vs 4 ram slots is a huge penalty for ram latency and signal integrity. Also Apex has much better Power delivery and also plane due to the fact is isnt using pins for iGpu voltage. Like I said before the hero is feature based premium. The apex is ultimate performance premium as I suspect the apex board also outperforms the extreme. I highly doubt the hero can compete with the apex when it comes to max memory and cpu performance.

  • @GnarlySpookXT
    @GnarlySpookXT 3 года назад +1

    INTERESTING

  • @HuntaKiller91
    @HuntaKiller91 3 года назад

    i would just cap the game with rtss..144 should be real good

  • @ShafGG
    @ShafGG 3 года назад

    Man I am using 4000mhz 16-16-16-32 two sticks and I can’t get it below 41ns. Do a vid on memory tuning maybe? Please 😭

    • @bombba5359
      @bombba5359 3 года назад +1

      You might be held back due to your mobo memory trace layout. My current board also has a penalty of 4ns in comparison with an itx or apex board. the 2 instead of 4 ram slots increase signal integrity and reduce the distance of the trace path. the best I can achieve with daily voltage dram 1.45v vccio 1.25 vccsa 1.30 is 4300 17-17-17 with very tight secondary and tertiary timings. is read 64666 write 66704 copy 62500 latency 39.7 Cpu 5.2Ghz and ring at 4.9 Ghz.

    • @thecatdaddy1981
      @thecatdaddy1981 3 года назад

      2x16GB 4100 16-16-16-34, I also hit a wall of 41ns.
      Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC.
      My guess is some motherboards just have a limitation in how low you can go.
      Back when I was tuning timings on my X99 platform, my latency kept dropping even while doing the very last subtimings. On this one I started at 47ns with XMP and quickly dropped to 44ns, then gradually to 41ns, but never below it.

    • @ShafGG
      @ShafGG 3 года назад

      @@bombba5359 does cpu clock affect latency?

    • @bombba5359
      @bombba5359 3 года назад

      @@ShafGG I'm not 100% on that but think if you increase your ring clock you will have better latency.

    • @bombba5359
      @bombba5359 3 года назад

      @@ShafGG at what frequency is it running now

  • @lordace8795
    @lordace8795 3 года назад +1

    Oh yeahhh

  • @lancefogle1
    @lancefogle1 3 года назад

    What about 11900K ? 🤔

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  3 года назад +4

      Terrible in everything

    • @lancefogle1
      @lancefogle1 3 года назад +3

      Oh? Thank you.I just canceled my order for ibuy power pc with 11900k.

  • @Skynet_11
    @Skynet_11 3 года назад +1

    Good video.That screen tearing...
    dammn

  • @drobin8121
    @drobin8121 3 года назад

    Nope wrong bro I had one

  • @MrGeorge07
    @MrGeorge07 3 года назад +3

    Proves intel is the more reliable brand. For all AMD great marketing, it's just not with intel. Only got to look at my 3900x, when this game first came out i was getting 180+ fps now im averaging 120-130fps paired with a 2080ti.

  • @RunNdShoot
    @RunNdShoot 3 года назад +1

    What if’s lmao 😂

  • @blood-pearl
    @blood-pearl 3 года назад

    💪

  • @maxmusterman6030
    @maxmusterman6030 3 года назад +1

    Dude I'm really tired of seeing shitty Warzone stuff all the time in my news feed, I don't care if you get 100 or 3k FPS, other stuff on your Chanel was interesting, but last few months a lame as hell.

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  3 года назад

      Nothing I can do about it, hardware videos get 1/4 the clicks as warzone ones. No one cares about hardware anymore

  • @jayireland561
    @jayireland561 3 года назад

    That's cute. I don't play Warzone though.

  • @dsayiasdad8099
    @dsayiasdad8099 3 года назад

    👍

  • @alexgarcia2071
    @alexgarcia2071 3 года назад

    This makes me feel special that my 10900k with 92 sp can hit 5.3 ghz and 50 ring.

    • @alexgarcia2071
      @alexgarcia2071 3 года назад

      @@sagerdood 1.32

    • @alexgarcia2071
      @alexgarcia2071 3 года назад

      @@BorealSine I haven’t ran any stability testing like that if it hasn’t crashed on normal day to day use and if it doesn’t I consider it stable to me anyway

    • @alexgarcia2071
      @alexgarcia2071 3 года назад

      @@BorealSine whoa settle down there sparky. I’m not running avx-0, never said I was -2 I believe on avx.

  • @TronTonics
    @TronTonics 3 года назад

    My 9900k and my 10900k outperforms my 3950x very ez. In gaming . Sorry AMD
    And my 9900k was at 4.9ghz

  • @surpriseblueviana3803
    @surpriseblueviana3803 3 года назад

    Warzone is one of the bad coding game i see in my entire gaming life(30 years gaming)