Fun fact for those who've never filled a hydrogen tank before: there's an infrared camera on all hydrogen pump stations because of the seal needed to fill safely - if it breaks and the hydrogen escapes and catches on fire, the flame is actually very hard to see because pure gas burns so cleanly. So if that happens the infrared camera can see the heat and safely shut everything down.
I bought a brand new 2022 Mirai 2 months ago after many weeks of studying the vehicle. Prior to buying Mirai I test drove 3 other EV manufacturers and calculating cost effectiveness, quality and reputation of different auto manufacturers this Mirai was the one for me. MSRP $52,000 - $17,000 Toyota instant incentive discount - $15,000 free fuel credit card - $12,000 Fed & CA CAV Tax credit + 0% interest with no down payment. They also threw in 10 yr/100k miles warranty. Bottom line I bought my brand new Mirai for $8000! Nearest Hydrogen fuel station is less than 2 miles from my house in San Ramon and there are 5 hydrogen stations within 15 miles. I couldn’t refuse this opportunity. The vehicle looks great and drives perfect just like I expected from Toyota quality. Toyota also provides any 21 days of free rental car for those who wants to travel outside of CA. Also just received Clean Air Vehicle Access bumper sticker where I get to use Express land/ Carpool lane. Don’t just walk away from this great opportunity if it works for you. It worked for me. Thanks for reading and GOD bless you!
How has it been over the passed ten months? I'm considering taking the plunge in the next week, but I need opinions. I live in the Bay Area, so I have decent access to hydrogen stations.
@@Ravennevarr For real though fuck California. Recently I read an article stating that Cali is trying to tax ex-cali residents on their income for ten years after they leave cali, that's literally theft. Furthermore if my understanding is correct one of the major cities (Sacramento I believe) is making it illegal to work on your own car in your own driveway. What's insane is that you can't even register an older diesel there because they "aren't emissions compliant". Like even if it runs perfectly and everything is up to factory specs. Where does it end with their nonsense? I could understand if it wasn't up to factory spec but if it could be sold new there then it's your right to drive it as long as you'd like. But you know it's called Commiefornia for a reason. I really wish the us government would give this cultural and economic leach of a shithole state to Mexico.
@@bt328 I live in NJ not far outside of New York City. Did you know in the the 1920’s the Empire State Building was originally supposed to be a docking point for the Hindenburg? Look it up, the concept pictures are actually really cool
Oh my fuckin' GOD!!! That shit drives me nuts. Why do these idiots always compare a Prius, Corolla, or some sort of gas efficient or something like that to a sports car? Yeah, no shit a tiny four banger or family sedan isn't a fuckin' speed demon.
Yep, also very similar to the Kia Stinger . You can´t go wrong with that design, the new Mirai looks a lot better than the previous Yaris/Prius mutation it was before.
Unlike Californians a lot of people keep their car in a garage. Instead of having water pour all over your garage floor, tap that button outside, pull in and ur all set.
I imagine these would never do well in northern climates even if they ever got hydrogen infrastructure up here....people would be icing up the roads everywhere & causing wrecks, LOL
@@Rekt-M8-v4 Yeah. The problem I see is that the water dumping pipe freezes and you can't dump water anymore. Unless there are some kind of heating element in the pipe
The hump in the center is huge because there’s another hydrogen tank going down the center of the car. Which is also why there’s a huge beam going across the sunroof.
Michael Bravo that’s kinda the argument that people against original gasoline powered cars. Why would anyone want to ride around in a loud rough carriage with a tank full of much more flammable lamp oil! It’s a death trap! Just stick to horses like we have done for years!
Yes it's quite easy to understand that some people don't want a puddle under their car in the garage. I swear, the whole Doug thing where he pretends he doesn't understand this or that is getting really annoying.
@@AxLWake It just proves that he doesn't care about cars deeply enough. He doesn't understand some of the simple features, like the h2o button. A little thinking and you'd realize why it's a thing. At one point in an older car he didn't even know what a manual equalizer was.
@@GhosT8747 And the fact that USB-C isn't inherently faster. That's not how it works Doug, haha! He even shows the USB-A port (or as he calls it, "normal USB") with 2.1A written next to it, which is good enough for most devices and probably faster than a lot of USB-C ports on other vehicles.
@@johnbacon4997 If it was, Toyota would probably have encouraged people to do that, or they would have made some kind of "water reservoir" accessible from inside the car from which you can drink.
@@johnbacon4997 It's pure water so unless it's being contaminated by the pipe it should be fine. I wouldn't recommend it though as drinking completely pure water can drain your cells of minerals. This is why drinking water either naturally has minerals or has minerals added to it.
Really? Enormous huge car. With almost no space inside. Because all the hydrogen stuff takes up ALOT space. You cant make a small little car on hydrogen.
@@saintstales4108 its extremely big, with the inside space of a kia picanto. And you call that good. Go to a Tesla Model S and it has the most space of its class. Hydrogen TAKES presious space of the whole car.
@@HermanWillems go cry somewhere else's 🤡 I'm sticking with Toyota Quality they've proved themselves for long years. They will reach their goals. Tesla is crap 💯 get stucks in a charging station lmaoo nahh. I'd rather get Toyota LQ ❤️
Defying Death Valley: ruclips.net/video/aj0-eAAmvxk/видео.html Here not the Mirai, but a fuel cell car from Mercedes-Benz. Would work with all fuel cell cars.
I thought it was Japanese courtesy, I wouldn't want to pull up to a restaurant valet and have my car lift its leg. In certain situations that could be a little embarrassing or even look like your car needs repairs to people who are not familiar with hydrogen fuel cells.
This looks like a quality car. I think the main selling point is that unlike other cars with electric propulsion, you don’t have to wait 40 minutes to charge it.
Very good point. If one day Hydrogen refill stations are as common as electric car charging stations, H2 vehicles will have a huge lead in terms of convenience.
@@redlinedrifts69 Not just convenience. Hydrogen car energy is much more clean than today's so called "clean electric cars" because you dont get electricity with coal or gas. Also with todays battery tech, energy density is pure shit. They just marketed the hell outta ev's (*cough* Tesla) so you think they are clean. Also, mining lithium is one of the most toxic processes out there that destroys ecosystems.
@@heavypeki this is not true. Hydrogen requires MORE electricity to produce and store into a fuel cell, it's waaay less efficient. You're better off placing that straight into a car battery.
@@heavypeki Hydrogen cars are much less efficient at every step of the way. Much more energy is needed to get the same range out of a hydrogen car than with an electric one. Electric cars truly are much more efficient. Lithium batteries are easily recyclable. Even if energy density is terrible, that doesn't matter because combustion engines are terribly inefficient.
@@mrethantheb That's being addressed! My industry is working on expanding green hydrogen, which uses exclusively excess wind/solar power to produce the H2. Given a chance and enough investment, hydrogen could really be a great solution.
@Doug DeMuro, there's a simple explanation why Mirai is nowhere outside Southern California. Hydrogen's by product is literally water yes that's great, but it freezes in winter conditions. So the chance of water turning to ice in it's system can lead to catastrophic failure. And I know I'm going to be pitchforked and burned at the stake for saying this but this is one of the reasons why Elon is against hydrogen powered vehicles. It's simply not practical in anywhere that is cold enough to freeze water. And sadly... I agree with that statement. End of story~
@@battosaijenkins946 If you wanna make money yeah eletric is the way to go, if you care about the evironment, go hydrogen, many places in the world are fit for it :)
I agree with you although in fairness, sometimes if you hold down a volume button it might raise the volume too fast 😅 I don't know if the Mirai does that lol
@@beastlysun im the opposite, i use the knob over the steering wheel control on both my corolla and my wrx, unless im only going up or down a little bit I always reach over for the knob.
Last time I was this early: THISSSSS is a wheel. The owner tells me that it makes it very easy to travel across ground and move objects much easier than before.
I just looked it up and at $16.50 per kilogram for hydrogen and a 5 kg "tank" on this vehicle. It's about $75 to fill up and drive 350-400 miles. Not bad but not great once the fuel incentives run out.
This is still very niche and new. The price of hydrogen will drop significantly in the coming years. Some are projecting $1 by 2030 even. Remember the costs of batteries in 2010? They have dropped by 90% now.
@Dr. BoostFire If you don’t have hydrogen-powered cars, why build hydrogen stations? In California, those stations were initially built for commercial/fleet vehicles (like buses), but the public can use them.
@Dr. BoostFire Because Cons love pollution and think science isn't real. Hydrogen tech could've been viable if Cons didn't delay science advancements for hundreds of years--it will likely take another 100 years before hydrogen cars can become viable. If u allow companies to become megacorps that only invest in 1 thing like oil for hundreds of years, emerging technologies will be way behind and become pointlessly expensive in comparison.
Almost every sedan review by Doug: "I have the passenger seat all the way back and as a man in the tallest 3% of men in the country, there's almost no leg room"
This thing is almost the same length as a Toyota Avalon, though, and its hood doesn't seem to be much longer than a typical full-size luxury sedan's either. There's no reason why it should have a back seat and trunk situation worse than a Prius. If hydrogen powertrains require such ridiculously poor packaging, that's gonna kill them outside California.
@@ccalvinn Price doesn't equal comfort. If I use your logic then Lamborghinis should be very practical and comfortable. The guy above has a point. Most people would feel comfortable.
@@randomyoutubeaccount6906 instead of holding the brakes, holding the brakes boils the brake fluid and the pedal goes long and your calipers eventually catch on fire.
Several things: (I'm surprised Doug didn't pick up on the simplicity of some of the issues he mentions) 1) The "pee" switch is very nice so you can dump it in the street before you get inside your garage. 2) The bar across the top of the car is most likely for safety... creating a more rigid passenger area that will be more survivable in a serious crash. (I have a sunroof.... I've opened it one in the 5 years I've owned my lexus.) 3) It's not intended as a sports car, I don't know why anyone thinks it's supposed to be fast and handle extremely well. The majority of the people that will buy this care about fuel economy, the environment and having a nice quiet ride that looks very nice while on the way to our mind-numbing jobs.
Exactly what I was thinking, especially the whole phone sliding around tantrum. Most this cars target are over the age of 50 with grandkids and having flashbacks of hippie community lifestyles.
Yup, good points and I suspect they haven't labelled it a Lexus is because then they would have to add more sound deadening and all the flash add-ons that Lexus's have, pushing the price and weight up.
@@frasermackenzie7275 a lot of younger adults are also interested in alternative fuels, so the phone sliding thing and lack of usb c does still seem weird
I think the water could be used to boost A/C. The thing is A/C drys the air in order to cool it, so reuse it in the system to give mor humid air to the cabin or to redirect to the air bf it's cooled so it can 'stole' more heat.
Doug, I love your channel, but I've never felt compelled to comment - until now. Probably because I'm a current Mirai driver (not the new style). You were driving me crazy with some of the "not quite misinformation" in this review. Let's start with the many "It feels like a Lexus" comments. Yes, it feels like a Lexus. That's because it IS a Lexus. Both the old and the new style are built on a Lexus platform, but badged as a Toyota. They did this on purpose because they wanted the feel of a luxury car (based on your comments they succeeded), but they wanted it to appeal to more of a mass audience so they badged it as a Toyota. Toyota's long term hope is that the Mirai becomes the new Prius. BTW, these are not my opinions, I'm basically a battery electric car guy who was convinced to try hydrogen when the Toyota people came to my workplace at the time (one of the major movie studios) to give a presentation to potential buyers. I had the opportunity to speak to the guy who's in charge of Mirai for North America and he told me all this. Next - "the old one was dog slow". This may be anecdotal but, when I'm in Power mode (apparently they have renamed this to Sport mode in the new one), I have never lost a stoplight drag race against any other electric car. That thing is seriously fast. Next - "it's basically an electric car". No, it IS an electric car. Most people don't understand that the only difference between a battery electric car and a hydrogen car is how they get their electricity. Otherwise the power train is the same. But a battery electric gets its fuel from a plug, where a hydrogen car just makes it's electricity as it goes (as you correctly described). It doesn't use that electricity to directly "drive" the motor (as you implied), it simply uses the electricity to charge the battery - like any other electric car. Next - a couple of times you used the word "hybrid" when describing the car. There's nothing hybrid about a hydrogen car (see the previous point). Lastly, in talking about the Doug score you talked about how people would prefer the Model 3 based on things like luxury, performance, features, etc. Unfortunately you left out the one feature that really makes a buyer's decision when looking at a Model 3 (or any other battery electric car), vs. a hydrogen car: fueling time. If you talk to most hydrogen drivers (I'm an exception) they'll tell you that they very much wanted a zero emissions car (usually for environmental reasons), but REALLY wouldn't consider a battery electric car because of the fueling time. They want something that they can fill and go, just like a gasoline car. So they're not really competing with Tesla for that reason. In fact, that's actually one of the big reasons why Toyota has been trying to push hydrogen over battery electric, because they believe the public will mostly feel that way. I hope that clears things up (sorry for being so long winded).
Interesting. The people you mention, who bought hydrogen cars for zero emissions, have been had. They would have done better by buying a CNG car, because guess what, Shell makes hydrogen (wastefully) by natural gas reforming. I think Toyota makes hydrogen cars because they have been doing it for a long time and don't want to scratch their losses, so even though it just sucks up money any is pretty much a dead end in cars, they can afford sponsoring it for marketing purposes and for possible use in other areas.
I don't get those people worried about charging time. It takes like 15 minutes more to charge a Tesla from a Supercharger, and you can charge it in your own garage overnight. I honestly think I've _saved_ time overall by switching to a BEV.
@@shanet7511 The average lease on a car is around 12-24 months so I don’t exactly see your point. Most people aren’t gonna have these for more than a years or two anyways, it’s just a local commuter car after all.
You are absolutely correct. I'm a Mirai driver and I can tell you - they practically pay me to drive this car. Free fuel (I couldn't use $15K of hydrogen in 5 years and my lease is only 3), they pay ALL maintenance, and they offer huge subsidies when you lease it. Mine is a $55,000 car (and it has the amenities and ride quality of cars that cost far more) and my car payment is $275/mo. Yes, please.
@@brycegum_221 Actually most Mirai leases, like mine, are for 3 years. And, as Doug pointed out, it has a 300 mile range. You can drive this car from LA to San Francisco because there's a hydrogen station at the half way point.
I remember doing a lengthy presentation on hydrogen fuel cells all the way back in 2002 as a high school freshman. Had an overzealous science teacher that actually cared about his job. Can't believe we're seeing this after nearly 20 years.
Don’t you think it could have come sooner? I feel the development of alternatives to ICEs has been excruciating slow. It shouldn’t have taken 20 years.
Yes, everythings bigger in Texas, especially ego driven cars and of those, especially the ones going to our future takeover former Mexican leftist territory once called California.
@@yuppiemobile69 glad to be living in the leftist state of California which is solidly blue. If there is any takeover, it’s your nut job right wing state. It’s purple going to blue with our excess Californians squatting and cleaning up your vile oil patch ground.
@i camouf all on ya And some of them are better than others. Volume buttons are objectively inferior to volume knobs when you are trying to drive a vehicle, especially when those buttons are digital or otherwise are difficult to find without looking at them. Anybody who says otherwise is simply a fool who will find themselves upside down in a ditch sooner or later.
@@ttamcc.4674 Yes, hydrogen is a lot more energy dense than lithium ion. It's longer range and faster to fill up, like gasoline. The main difference (outside of performance potentially, I'm not sure how fast you can extract the energy potential of hydrogen) is that hydrogen is more expensive per mile of range. That said, while hydrogen may be more expensive, you won't have the upfront cost of the battery, nor will you have to replace said battery after 5-10 years, so I don't know which method is actually cheaper in the long run assuming we managed to get all the infrastructure built out. One thing I'm fairly certain of, however, is that lithium ion will not be a realistic replacement for diesel for semi-trucks, since shipping costs would rise exponentially if truckers had to wait around for an hour or two every 300 miles to recharge (and that's being charitable, realistically it would probably be much more often because additional friction from the extra wheels and the cargo severely impacts the range, and if those batteries are that much bigger to compensate then they will take even longer to charge). Possibly we'll end up seeing both hydrogen and battery electric infrastructure be installed, but I'd argue Japan probably has it right on this issue. Something many people are not considering is the impact of battery electric on the used car market, too. If there are no more ICEs and the gasoline infrastructure starts to die off, battery electric vehicles are very expensive comparatively. There aren't really any sub-$10000 battery electric vehicles at the moment, and if there were you either wouldn't have much range (probably sub 100 miles) or you would have to replace the battery (so add another $5000-10000 depending on the number of kwh you want to add). Battery electric is going to obliterate the poor and lower middle classes financially unless they have some low cost alternative (which hydrogen fuel cell vehicles would be, though their operation costs over time are higher than cheap ICEs including occasional maintenance). Edit: Coming back to this comment (and going on somewhat of a tangent, so feel free to disregard if you are uninterested), I want to address the feasibility of producing as many lithium ion batteries as would be needed for a transition to a fully battery electric transportation sector (and, indeed, the idea of battery electric even being green at all long term as well as short term). Something the EV lobby has consistently failed to address properly is the idea of used battery disposal or storage. Ideally (and as they like to claim), we'll be able to recycle 100% of used batteries and reuse them in new batteries. Frankly, I have my doubts we'll be able to get anywhere close to that, at least any time soon. Currently, as far as I am aware (and I am by no means an expert on battery recycling, so this is all just what I've come to understand is true about the subject, it may not be completely accurate), with currently available technologies we're capable of recycling maybe 15% of your average battery. If that's true, and if this problem cannot be solved (that is, if we as a species cannot produce a way of cheaply, safely, and efficiently recycle a much, much greater percentage of a battery, hopefully above 75% at least and higher if possible), then there's no way a battery electric transportation infrastructure is even sustainable, and it certainly wouldn't pollute less than continuing the ICE-based infrastructure, since ICEs can be used for decades and decades as long as they are properly maintained, which reduces the demand for new vehicles which would produce more pollution during manufacturing. Musk estimates that with battery recycling technologies we would have to increase our battery production capabilities by at least 1600 TIMES (that would be 160,000%) to achieve a fully battery electric transportation sector, and double that if we want to use lithium ion batteries as storage for a primarily wind and solar grid (though I don't think that is practical in reality, lithium ion batteries are terrible for grid storage when compared with theoretical models of liquid metal batteries, though those don't really have a production line yet). This problem is compounded with the availability of rare materials required for battery production in the first place (Musk says he's made a better battery without cobalt, but I'll believe it when I see it. He says a lot of things, like the Cybertruck's windows being bullet proof, or the Cybertruck being competitive in towing ability with a Ford V8. A lot of it turns out to be untrue). I don't know that as a species we could even pay for such a feat, but assuming we could, if we can't solve the recycling problem, then we would have to increase the production even more, and the old batteries would just get chucked in a landfill (where they're often a fire hazard, because old batteries which are not maintained tend to short and cause electrical fires). These problems (combined with affordability and the used car market problem) make me very skeptical of battery electric in general as anything other than the toys of the wealthy elite, much the same way they are now. They would simply cost too much to be of any other use, as far as I can tell. I think we would need a radical change in battery technology as a whole before I would consider it a viable replacement for petroleum and diesel. Hydrogen, by contrast, doesn't have any of the problems that battery electric has. It has 2 (and potentially 3) problems instead. Firstly, hydrogen infrastructure is much more expensive to build out than battery electric infrastructure is (since battery electric infrastructure is created basically by running power lines), and the petroleum infrastructure is already in place so it will be very difficult to incentivize anybody in particular to start creating the hydrogen infrastructure without said technology advancing to reduce the cost of installation or large scale government action (which has its own detriments). Secondly, even if we managed to solve the infrastructure problem, it still costs a lot of money to produce hydrogen when compared to the same amount of range in petroleum or diesel. If that problem cannot be solved, hydrogen vehicles will never catch on without government subsidies (which, once again, has its own detriments). Thirdly (and this one is more relevant for the enthusiast space, though there will be some overlap with shipping and hauling), as far as I am aware there exist no examples of hydrogen based sports cars or trucks, and I don't know that it has been proven that the technology can provide the same kind of performance. Of the three issues, I would presume the third to be the easiest to solve, though if any one of them is not solved then the technology will never be competitive with petroleum or diesel.
I am pretty sure the H2O button is the equivalent of Mirai training you to let it "pee" outside (In the driveway). It only "pees" in the garage if you forget to let it out.
They should just reroute the "exhaust water" back into the the windshield wiper reservoir so it doesn't have be be refilled all the time. They could also have another gallon-reservoir to route the exhaust water into for drinking or washing in an emergency.
In high school I was a part of a rc car team that used hydrogen fuel cells to help power our cars. It was an endurance race that was sponsored by Toyota to showcase the Mirai based in Los Angeles and Orange County schools. I was the lead driver for my team at Edison High School.
Uh, model 3? I just think the Model 3 is far weirder than this interior. There aren't any recognizable elements except a steering wheel. This feels like Toyota, a little camry mixed with some prius. Parts of it are weird but the majority isn't, to my eyes anyway. Not like having no gauges or buttons.
I mean in my opinion, this interior is not all that weird in comparison to many of the new modern cars offered for sale today. I think it fits pretty well with the time
I guess it depends on how much hydrogen costs and how further it takes you compared to gasoline. I do say it's not worth buying now, but maybe someday when fuel stations are widespread and hydrogen is significantly cheaper then it's worth it
Doug, there are cars and people outside the always sunny and warm California...it is not a nice idea to dump the water under your wheels in case of freezing temperatures, this is why there is a button to manually release it.
More error-laden than I expect from you, Doug! The first gen Mirai is not a hatchback. The gear selector on the Mirai is not weird. It's the one Toyota has used on the Prius for at least 10 years. The "Br" mode is on the Prius too. It puts energy back into the Mirai battery, i.e. it's a regen mode. Creating a secure connection with the fuel dispenser requires no skill or effort whatsoever. The nozzle slides over the car fitting and you squeeze a lever on the nozzle until it clicks. Far easier to do than trying to get a gasoline hose to seat in a car's filler pipe. The water release has a practical side: you can manually discharge the water before entering your garage if you'd rather not have a puddle on the floor. Finally, 44 hydrogen stations is more than a "handful." There will be 100 in a couple more years. I've driven my FCEV all over the state, and into Nevada and Mexico, using the existing fueling network. Thanks for reviewing the car!
the state of California is bigger than many countries and has a population of 40M... 44 hydrogen stations is probably about 100x fewer than gas. (not to say there isn't potential - I def agree they can expand quickly in the next few years, but it's an issue for people who are thinking of buying it today)
Absolutely beautiful profile. Generally speaking, I'm not a fan of a few of the characteristics. BUT, toyota pulled one out of there sleeve and here it is.
Plenty of very nice (and intentionally weird) design elements that make it stand out from a sea of boring saloons. Certainly not the prettiest cars ever designed, but it's definitely good looking.
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If this was my car I’d be peeing in all my friends driveways to establish my dominance
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😂😂😂😂
Lol
I would dye my h2o so I can know I marked it
I am not a fan of Toyota/Lexus but I would have this.
1969 : We will have a flying cars in the future
2021 : Peeing car
You’re overusing your colon
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Uh at least it looks futuristic? We still ain't finna make the cars fly
@@peaceandllov what
@@blackcyklops
Your colon is worn out
Fun fact for those who've never filled a hydrogen tank before: there's an infrared camera on all hydrogen pump stations because of the seal needed to fill safely - if it breaks and the hydrogen escapes and catches on fire, the flame is actually very hard to see because pure gas burns so cleanly. So if that happens the infrared camera can see the heat and safely shut everything down.
Super cool. Thanks for sharing man!
@@gtzgreatride seriously?? Bro that actually really efficient
My biggest advantage has become my greatest enemy
@@gtzgreatride Excellent example
I bought a brand new 2022 Mirai 2 months ago after many weeks of studying the vehicle. Prior to buying Mirai I test drove 3 other EV manufacturers and calculating cost effectiveness, quality and reputation of different auto manufacturers this Mirai was the one for me.
MSRP $52,000 - $17,000 Toyota instant incentive discount - $15,000 free fuel credit card - $12,000 Fed & CA CAV Tax credit + 0% interest with no down payment. They also threw in 10 yr/100k miles warranty. Bottom line I bought my brand new Mirai for $8000!
Nearest Hydrogen fuel station is less than 2 miles from my house in San Ramon and there are 5 hydrogen stations within 15 miles. I couldn’t refuse this opportunity. The vehicle looks great and drives perfect just like I expected from Toyota quality. Toyota also provides any 21 days of free rental car for those who wants to travel outside of CA. Also just received Clean Air Vehicle Access bumper sticker where I get to use Express land/ Carpool lane. Don’t just walk away from this great opportunity if it works for you. It worked for me. Thanks for reading and GOD bless you!
How has it been over the passed ten months? I'm considering taking the plunge in the next week, but I need opinions. I live in the Bay Area, so I have decent access to hydrogen stations.
how much did you pay out the door?
Does it say under the fuel flap "Do not refuel after [date]? What are you going to do with the car after this date?
This car literally bends you over and fucks you every time you fill up
@@cedriclynch The expiration date is when the free fuel card runs out because it costs $200 to refill.
Driver: Let's pull over, I gotta take a leak
Mirai: Yeah, me too
Cool name? Russian or Ukrainian?
@@johnbacon4997 Greek!
@@DimitrisSfounis Sorry, thought it was Russian
It’s literally built different
This thing can piss all over your driveway to mark it’s territory
That’s real human machine interaction
I love you for this
So does one with an internal combustion engine ;)
I think thats mercedes not this plastic
my first car ford escort mkIV '89 also piss all over to mark it's territory ;)
To be fair, so can any German/Italian car - it'll just be oil + coolant instead of water
"those old dated usb ports"
laughs in car with only a 12v outlet for charging
@@КонстантинАбрамов-ы8г Go away
12v only gang reporting in. I also have a tape deck lol.
Rip
Usb-c ports are stupid anyway. Why buy a yet new cord!? Normal USB port with over 2 Amp is plenty for charging.
@@vadim7590 2 amp is not enough
Hydrogen fuel cell car: I only make water emissions
California: Yeah so look you're gonna have to put a Brita Filter on your exhaust pipe
Omg dont give Cali govs more idead lol
@@Ravennevarr For real though fuck California. Recently I read an article stating that Cali is trying to tax ex-cali residents on their income for ten years after they leave cali, that's literally theft. Furthermore if my understanding is correct one of the major cities (Sacramento I believe) is making it illegal to work on your own car in your own driveway.
What's insane is that you can't even register an older diesel there because they "aren't emissions compliant". Like even if it runs perfectly and everything is up to factory specs. Where does it end with their nonsense? I could understand if it wasn't up to factory spec but if it could be sold new there then it's your right to drive it as long as you'd like. But you know it's called Commiefornia for a reason.
I really wish the us government would give this cultural and economic leach of a shithole state to Mexico.
That's actually pretty damn funny. 10/10👍🏿
@@shanet7511 thats socialism
@@mcw280 Go research what socialism is because you clearly don't know.
“There’s a small fire under your car.”
Presses H2O release button.
Yooo, lol
avoid fire at all costs with hydrogen!
@@qwertyuiop-kd4qq but not with gasoline??😒
@@gabrielrojas1693 google hindenburg.
@@bt328 I live in NJ not far outside of New York City. Did you know in the the 1920’s the Empire State Building was originally supposed to be a docking point for the Hindenburg? Look it up, the concept pictures are actually really cool
I imagine the manual water switch is for people to dump water out in their driveway before parking it inside the garage
that’s actually a good point
or for when you want to let your car pee
Good thinkin.
Or in case you are thirsty.
Or if you want to confuse the people behind you in traffic
I suspect the H2O dump button is so you can empty the water tank in your driveway before you pull in to your garage.
Came here to make this comment. Glad to see it was already made.
i had the same thought. I feel like thats really obvious
It's so you can dump the water in your neighbour's driveway before parking it in your garage to assert dominance.
Or pretty much anywhere, sometimes you don't want to pull up somewhere and your car just starts pissing all over their driveway.
Came to comment this too, it’s so you don’t get the garage all wet
"Doesn't feel like a sports sedan".......there's a reason for that, its not a sports sedan.
Facts..
Oh my fuckin' GOD!!! That shit drives me nuts. Why do these idiots always compare a Prius, Corolla, or some sort of gas efficient or something like that to a sports car? Yeah, no shit a tiny four banger or family sedan isn't a fuckin' speed demon.
@@htfcm ikr, it makes no sense at all that's not the purpose damnit
Nice Toyota AMG GT63
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it on the thumbnail lol
Cheaper, more reliable, might be built in the US. Sounds good to me.
Kinda
I own a gt2 hd360 400 ghbsifn351nnxjf
Yep, also very similar to the Kia Stinger .
You can´t go wrong with that design, the new Mirai looks a lot better than the previous Yaris/Prius mutation it was before.
Doug: Hydrogen stations are available only in California.
Hydrogen Mirai: **Texas license plate**
Underrated comment
the factory is in Plano, Texas. that's most likely where it came from
@@Eye-it-azz Thats how manufacturer plates look down here so I would be inclined to believe it
It is getting LS swapped next week. But before that, here's the quirks and features!!
You're a Peasant that is a real plate
Unlike Californians a lot of people keep their car in a garage. Instead of having water pour all over your garage floor, tap that button outside, pull in and ur all set.
Exactly - that seems to be the obvious reason for a manual purge
I imagine these would never do well in northern climates even if they ever got hydrogen infrastructure up here....people would be icing up the roads everywhere & causing wrecks, LOL
@@wgrabner1 Joseph Stalin wants to know your location
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 it really isn’t all that much water
@@Rekt-M8-v4 Yeah. The problem I see is that the water dumping pipe freezes and you can't dump water anymore. Unless there are some kind of heating element in the pipe
The hump in the center is huge because there’s another hydrogen tank going down the center of the car. Which is also why there’s a huge beam going across the sunroof.
@Michael Bravo wrong
@@gotworc boom
@Michael Bravo they shot them with guns and the gas simply escapes
Michael Bravo that’s kinda the argument that people against original gasoline powered cars. Why would anyone want to ride around in a loud rough carriage with a tank full of much more flammable lamp oil! It’s a death trap! Just stick to horses like we have done for years!
Boom
Toyota: we made this luxury sedan with an amazing new fuel source.
Everyone: haha pee car
i’m wheezing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Toyota didn’t develop this. Honda was doing in the early 2000s. But no pee button as far as I can remember. Honda FCX
Gino
Vino
Fungi
Doug: Not sure why there’s an H2O dump button.
Garage Floor: Hmmmmmm.
Or in freezing conditions u wouldn’t want to make an ice sheet under the car if you park it outside.
@@dacianspinu2514 actually it freezing inside that tank would probably crack it. Who cares if it freezes on the floor
Yes it's quite easy to understand that some people don't want a puddle under their car in the garage. I swear, the whole Doug thing where he pretends he doesn't understand this or that is getting really annoying.
@@AxLWake It just proves that he doesn't care about cars deeply enough. He doesn't understand some of the simple features, like the h2o button. A little thinking and you'd realize why it's a thing. At one point in an older car he didn't even know what a manual equalizer was.
@@GhosT8747 And the fact that USB-C isn't inherently faster. That's not how it works Doug, haha! He even shows the USB-A port (or as he calls it, "normal USB") with 2.1A written next to it, which is good enough for most devices and probably faster than a lot of USB-C ports on other vehicles.
4:03 I'm disappointed that the car didn't lift its left rear wheel
Its female
Maybe the Mirai is a car puppy. Still, it's funny seeing a car literally peeing. 😁
Tesla: our doors open upwards
Toyota: our pee shoots downwards
The Tesla is a deathtrap in case of a rollover.
@Cynical Chad The Toyota is a Urinal in case of a hangover
Used
@@sklenbahkwards5254 t
@@CynicalBastard511 no... it has the highest safety ratings and shatterproof glass
Doug: "Tap tap tap tap tap"
Me: Suppose you just hold the button down. "Hold hold hold hold"....
Underrated comment
Doug probably complains that his phone doesn't have a volume knob.
I was thinking the same thing.
still take longer than a knob
Why can't they just put a fucking knob in the car? How many times do manufacturers have to try this before they finally stop?
If Doug was a cyborg “Doug DeMirai”
😂
Lmao
😂
lol 😂
Lmfao
James May who bought the last gen Mirai, now seeing the new Mirai
*C O C K I N G N O R A*
Edit: Aged Bad, May just bought the new Mirai
James May be like :
"Fo fok's sake Toyota, bloody hell mate"
But it's because of people like May who bought the first gen. Mirai who made it possible for there to be a second gen. Mirai.
@@mickaelblake7088 he's not an aussie
watch bottom gear by jixaw u will get it
@Mitrax zero He was formerly the co-host of BBC's Top Gear.
The volume controls are next to the driver so that when the passenger attempts to change it, the driver can slap the passenger’s hand away.
And aren't you supposed to long press them for larger volume changes?
Doug is the kind of guy who comes to a party and says to everyone: "Come and see how my car pees on the ground!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He would have to get invited first.....
Doug is a type of a guy who attends party with 1 condom and comes back with twelve
XD😂
If someone said “come watch my car piss!!” I’d be out there to watch faster than you could blink
The H20 button is to make the pursuing cops hydroplane.
Is H2O not H20...
@@rotony1 chill
@@sharmaman1 He's chill, He's correcting this uneducated human.
@@ballsofplastic chill
@@ballsofplastic chill
Doug: The car isn’t that weird
The car:
Has a pee switch.
Is it safe to collect the water and drink it?
@@johnbacon4997 If it was, Toyota would probably have encouraged people to do that, or they would have made some kind of "water reservoir" accessible from inside the car from which you can drink.
@@johnbacon4997 It's pure water so unless it's being contaminated by the pipe it should be fine. I wouldn't recommend it though as drinking completely pure water can drain your cells of minerals. This is why drinking water either naturally has minerals or has minerals added to it.
Theyre afraid of getting sued so they cant say you can drink it buy I think you can
Dude water has to come out of the car
It just looks like a Prius that went to the gym and is angry as f
Yoo😂🤣
Berkeley grad that hung out with Gronk and Marshawn Lynch 🤣
I would be angry too if I only had like 20 fuel stations in the US
The H2O button is for manually emptying the water before u get it inside ur garage!
And for watering your pet plant.
@@tv92taylor that's a very economical way of watering ur pet.
No, its for marking my territory
its to refill your drink
2006: rolling coal. 2021: taking a piss
@@iwantsexseemyvideo7149 reported
@@ksawiprod9140 same
@@ksawiprod9140 I reported all 3 of her comments
“The rest of the car is not weird at all”... *shows bizarre dash layout*
its a pretty standard toyota dash lay out
And it's not luxurious at all..
I was just thinking that...vastly different from my shitbox 95 explorer
I honestly like this car, I think Toyota did a good job on it
Really? Enormous huge car. With almost no space inside. Because all the hydrogen stuff takes up ALOT space. You cant make a small little car on hydrogen.
I agree
I know right, everyone is downgrading Hydrogen. Its actually a good car, its the first of its kind.
@@saintstales4108 its extremely big, with the inside space of a kia picanto. And you call that good. Go to a Tesla Model S and it has the most space of its class. Hydrogen TAKES presious space of the whole car.
@@HermanWillems go cry somewhere else's 🤡 I'm sticking with Toyota Quality they've proved themselves for long years. They will reach their goals. Tesla is crap 💯 get stucks in a charging station lmaoo nahh.
I'd rather get Toyota LQ ❤️
The volume control is there so the driver can easily smack away the passenger’s hand.
King of the volume, defend at all costs
True, except for the fact that the rear passengers e full access to also change the volume as well!
Genius
Lol
Tech
"The only hydrogen stations are in CA."
*Car is registered in Texas*
The HQ in the United States is in Texas so it makes sense in a way
Toyota moved their headquarters from Torrance, CA to Texas a few years ago due to tax reasons.
@@Uninfluenceable Just like everybody else escaping CA for TX
Cheaper licensing it out of state, whereas CA takes a percentage of the car's value just for the damn plate.
@@robnanneman Soon Schwarzenegger will be in the Governor's mansion to stage an intervention about the obscene tax rates.
“in a survival situation you can use the mirai as a water source” - toyota sales team
Just a Mirage-mirage
Ahh yes the mitsubishi mirage
@@lanceryderwilson8618 lol i just noticed that mistake 😂
I mean quite frankly you could probably find yourself in one of those relatively often if you decided to *_take it out of California_* xd
Defying Death Valley:
ruclips.net/video/aj0-eAAmvxk/видео.html
Here not the Mirai, but a fuel cell car from Mercedes-Benz.
Would work with all fuel cell cars.
4:30 That is to manually dump the water to avoid a mess in the place where you're parking (an indoors garage, for example)
I thought it was Japanese courtesy, I wouldn't want to pull up to a restaurant valet and have my car lift its leg. In certain situations that could be a little embarrassing or even look like your car needs repairs to people who are not familiar with hydrogen fuel cells.
This looks like a quality car. I think the main selling point is that unlike other cars with electric propulsion, you don’t have to wait 40 minutes to charge it.
Very good point. If one day Hydrogen refill stations are as common as electric car charging stations, H2 vehicles will have a huge lead in terms of convenience.
@@redlinedrifts69 Not just convenience. Hydrogen car energy is much more clean than today's so called "clean electric cars" because you dont get electricity with coal or gas. Also with todays battery tech, energy density is pure shit. They just marketed the hell outta ev's (*cough* Tesla) so you think they are clean. Also, mining lithium is one of the most toxic processes out there that destroys ecosystems.
@@heavypeki this is not true. Hydrogen requires MORE electricity to produce and store into a fuel cell, it's waaay less efficient. You're better off placing that straight into a car battery.
@@heavypeki Hydrogen cars are much less efficient at every step of the way. Much more energy is needed to get the same range out of a hydrogen car than with an electric one. Electric cars truly are much more efficient. Lithium batteries are easily recyclable. Even if energy density is terrible, that doesn't matter because combustion engines are terribly inefficient.
@@mrethantheb That's being addressed! My industry is working on expanding green hydrogen, which uses exclusively excess wind/solar power to produce the H2. Given a chance and enough investment, hydrogen could really be a great solution.
“This back seat is cramped,” says the guy who’s 7’ 13” tall.
Nah he around 8'4.
Nah, just 7' 12"
@@jeremiahboria4512 maybe using metric measurements
@@1rewd133 16'3
precisely two and a half mirais tall.
*Doug:* the interior isn't weird
*interior:* Sega Game Gear in center
Yes interior not quirky at all. Very basic.
@Doug DeMuro, there's a simple explanation why Mirai is nowhere outside Southern California. Hydrogen's by product is literally water yes that's great, but it freezes in winter conditions. So the chance of water turning to ice in it's system can lead to catastrophic failure.
And I know I'm going to be pitchforked and burned at the stake for saying this but this is one of the reasons why Elon is against hydrogen powered vehicles. It's simply not practical in anywhere that is cold enough to freeze water. And sadly... I agree with that statement. End of story~
@@battosaijenkins946 If you wanna make money yeah eletric is the way to go, if you care about the evironment, go hydrogen, many places in the world are fit for it :)
@@jonywalabi2647 Isn't creating hydrogen an energy intensive process requiring lots of electricity?
the H20 release button is probably so you can "release" outside of your garage, before pulling in....
“TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP” My G Just Hold Down The Button
I agree with you although in fairness, sometimes if you hold down a volume button it might raise the volume too fast 😅 I don't know if the Mirai does that lol
@@hassanbeydoun2460 yeah a knob is still the ideal
Good Lord man have you gone DAFT! Holding down button.....hmmmmf.
@@christopherpape4823 my car has a knob for volume on dash and buttons on steering wheel ... want to guess how many times the knob was used?
0 times
@@beastlysun im the opposite, i use the knob over the steering wheel control on both my corolla and my wrx, unless im only going up or down a little bit I always reach over for the knob.
"California is the only place with hydrogen pumping stations"
Has Texas plates
THIS IS BS. HE HAS LOST HIS MIND. NOT AN ALTERNATIVE.
lol I noticed that too
Pretty sure all press cars from Toyota have Texas plates.
Press cars comes from Texas but if you look at the navigation screen he is in CA
We really don't have any in texas trust me I've looked
The last time i was this early, Doug's ancestors reviewed horses.
Last time I was this early: THISSSSS is a wheel. The owner tells me that it makes it very easy to travel across ground and move objects much easier than before.
Best comment ever!
You`ve made my day dude XD
I just looked it up and at $16.50 per kilogram for hydrogen and a 5 kg "tank" on this vehicle. It's about $75 to fill up and drive 350-400 miles. Not bad but not great once the fuel incentives run out.
This is still very niche and new. The price of hydrogen will drop significantly in the coming years. Some are projecting $1 by 2030 even. Remember the costs of batteries in 2010? They have dropped by 90% now.
Up here in Canada a 55L tank of 93 octane is 125$ CAD. For a range of 600km, sooo 75 for 350-400 miles is very appealing
What's this guy talking about? 350 to 400 miles for $75 is the same as gas
@@Bugaboo-wq5scFor a truck, yeah. Not for a gas car the size of the mirai.
“Practicality 5” you can fuel it in one place in the entire country
He is assuming you live in california, he said in the beggining of the video. Otherwise buying this car doesn't even makes sense
@@marciliojunior4919 yeah cause everyone watching this video lives in California
@@619guy202 Most people are watching just for entertainment porpuses
@@marciliojunior4919 oh I thought everyone was watching because they were in the market for one
@@619guy202 So i don't get your point
Doug: You can't fill it up ANYWHERE outside California!
Car: Has Texas plates.
Almost all Toyota’s in America are built in Texas nowadays so idk why they’d only make it California “exclusive”
@@alex.c9524 because... California is the only place with hydrogen refuelling stations... you can't use the car in Texas... or any other state...
@Dr. BoostFire If you don’t have hydrogen-powered cars, why build hydrogen stations? In California, those stations were initially built for commercial/fleet vehicles (like buses), but the public can use them.
@@amac203 I think there are some in Hawaii, but that's beside the point
@Dr. BoostFire Because Cons love pollution and think science isn't real. Hydrogen tech could've been viable if Cons didn't delay science advancements for hundreds of years--it will likely take another 100 years before hydrogen cars can become viable. If u allow companies to become megacorps that only invest in 1 thing like oil for hundreds of years, emerging technologies will be way behind and become pointlessly expensive in comparison.
Almost every sedan review by Doug:
"I have the passenger seat all the way back and as a man in the tallest 3% of men in the country, there's almost no leg room"
everyone should be able to feel comfortable when they drop upwards of 50k lol I don't think he's being unreasonable.
This thing is almost the same length as a Toyota Avalon, though, and its hood doesn't seem to be much longer than a typical full-size luxury sedan's either. There's no reason why it should have a back seat and trunk situation worse than a Prius. If hydrogen powertrains require such ridiculously poor packaging, that's gonna kill them outside California.
@@ccalvinn Price doesn't equal comfort. If I use your logic then Lamborghinis should be very practical and comfortable. The guy above has a point. Most people would feel comfortable.
U have 69 likes I won't spoil it
I think the sunroof looks really stupid and I hope they offer a delete for it so you get more headroom.
The future of cars:
Mirai: pees.
Tesla: farts.
When's the pooping car coming out
@Mazen Braika of course. My inner child approves it
Tesla: explodes.
Oyyy stop talking trash about my dream car
@@itzurboyzdawg2 what, the tesla or the toyota
Everyone : Noooo you can’t just roll down hill without pumping the brakes it’s dangerous!
Mirai : Haha gear lever go Br
Lmao. Underrated comment
Your supposed to pump the breaks down hill?
Yay, another unfunny memey comment...
@@randomyoutubeaccount6906 most old lorries (and old cars) does..
@@randomyoutubeaccount6906 instead of holding the brakes, holding the brakes boils the brake fluid and the pedal goes long and your calipers eventually catch on fire.
Toyota: We made a luxury hydrogen fuel cell vehicle
Everyone: Haha car go pisssssss
if car behind you irritates you, you can say will piss on you
Cracked me up sooo bad 😂😂
Future: flying cars
Toyota: pissmobile
😭😭
I was wondering why you said this until I watched the rest of the video lol
😄😄😄😄😄
I'm going to guess if you hold down the volume button, it will continue to raise or lower it without tapping it.
Several things: (I'm surprised Doug didn't pick up on the simplicity of some of the issues he mentions)
1) The "pee" switch is very nice so you can dump it in the street before you get inside your garage.
2) The bar across the top of the car is most likely for safety... creating a more rigid passenger area that will be more survivable in a serious crash. (I have a sunroof.... I've opened it one in the 5 years I've owned my lexus.)
3) It's not intended as a sports car, I don't know why anyone thinks it's supposed to be fast and handle extremely well. The majority of the people that will buy this care about fuel economy, the environment and having a nice quiet ride that looks very nice while on the way to our mind-numbing jobs.
Exactly what I was thinking, especially the whole phone sliding around tantrum. Most this cars target are over the age of 50 with grandkids and having flashbacks of hippie community lifestyles.
Yup, good points and I suspect they haven't labelled it a Lexus is because then they would have to add more sound deadening and all the flash add-ons that Lexus's have, pushing the price and weight up.
@@frasermackenzie7275 a lot of younger adults are also interested in alternative fuels, so the phone sliding thing and lack of usb c does still seem weird
I think the water could be used to boost A/C. The thing is A/C drys the air in order to cool it, so reuse it in the system to give mor humid air to the cabin or to redirect to the air bf it's cooled so it can 'stole' more heat.
Everyone: "Cool, a hydrogen Toyota!"
Doug: "Tap Tap Tap Tap Tap Tap Tap!"
It seems like such a calm and peaceful car. I think we should appreciate that.
Yeah but if you’re paying 70,000 dollars for a car it should be attention grabbing and loud...
@@hibuddy2768 Or you're a rich silicon valley bro who cares about the environment
@@hibuddy2768 you're very misguided on what a car should at price points. This is a hydrogen car, not a hellcat
Hmm right, but maybe someone just wants to have some luxury for themselves and their close ones and not be noticed by many.
@@meavyhetal I dunno man a brand new hellcat costs 72,000 or at least they do around where I live
"Tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap."
- Doug DeMuro, 2021
Right? Nobody I know of pummels the dang button like it owes them money.
You should do a 'Doug Goes to Japan' series. I'm sure you'll find tonnes of quirky JDM models there for your videos.
Man you have me laughing like crazy
Since you said Japan it makes me want to see him review bidets...
he did a video i believe in south korea or it may have been china where he went car spotting.
That’s where Doug was made he was made in Japan... You can explore Japan’s Quirks and features..
He should review the NIO cars
You probably have a manual option to release the water so that every time you pull into the garage there isn't a puddle
That's exactly what it's for according to Toyota ruclips.net/video/Z7KgD6rOP9E/видео.html&ab_channel=ToyotaUSA
@Smok3 SHO too
Was looking for this comment. 🤓👍🏽
That's what I said out loud the moment he mentioned he didn't understand it.
At least I. Am not the only one who had that thought
Every guy who owns this car "Want to see my car pee?"
EVery German S & M porn director's dream...no messy clean ups on the set!
Doug, I love your channel, but I've never felt compelled to comment - until now. Probably because I'm a current Mirai driver (not the new style). You were driving me crazy with some of the "not quite misinformation" in this review. Let's start with the many "It feels like a Lexus" comments. Yes, it feels like a Lexus. That's because it IS a Lexus. Both the old and the new style are built on a Lexus platform, but badged as a Toyota. They did this on purpose because they wanted the feel of a luxury car (based on your comments they succeeded), but they wanted it to appeal to more of a mass audience so they badged it as a Toyota. Toyota's long term hope is that the Mirai becomes the new Prius. BTW, these are not my opinions, I'm basically a battery electric car guy who was convinced to try hydrogen when the Toyota people came to my workplace at the time (one of the major movie studios) to give a presentation to potential buyers. I had the opportunity to speak to the guy who's in charge of Mirai for North America and he told me all this. Next - "the old one was dog slow". This may be anecdotal but, when I'm in Power mode (apparently they have renamed this to Sport mode in the new one), I have never lost a stoplight drag race against any other electric car. That thing is seriously fast. Next - "it's basically an electric car". No, it IS an electric car. Most people don't understand that the only difference between a battery electric car and a hydrogen car is how they get their electricity. Otherwise the power train is the same. But a battery electric gets its fuel from a plug, where a hydrogen car just makes it's electricity as it goes (as you correctly described). It doesn't use that electricity to directly "drive" the motor (as you implied), it simply uses the electricity to charge the battery - like any other electric car. Next - a couple of times you used the word "hybrid" when describing the car. There's nothing hybrid about a hydrogen car (see the previous point). Lastly, in talking about the Doug score you talked about how people would prefer the Model 3 based on things like luxury, performance, features, etc. Unfortunately you left out the one feature that really makes a buyer's decision when looking at a Model 3 (or any other battery electric car), vs. a hydrogen car: fueling time. If you talk to most hydrogen drivers (I'm an exception) they'll tell you that they very much wanted a zero emissions car (usually for environmental reasons), but REALLY wouldn't consider a battery electric car because of the fueling time. They want something that they can fill and go, just like a gasoline car. So they're not really competing with Tesla for that reason. In fact, that's actually one of the big reasons why Toyota has been trying to push hydrogen over battery electric, because they believe the public will mostly feel that way. I hope that clears things up (sorry for being so long winded).
Interesting. The people you mention, who bought hydrogen cars for zero emissions, have been had. They would have done better by buying a CNG car, because guess what, Shell makes hydrogen (wastefully) by natural gas reforming. I think Toyota makes hydrogen cars because they have been doing it for a long time and don't want to scratch their losses, so even though it just sucks up money any is pretty much a dead end in cars, they can afford sponsoring it for marketing purposes and for possible use in other areas.
The guy??? See this is how I know that you are lying. The person in charge of the development of the Mirai is a woman.
I don't get those people worried about charging time. It takes like 15 minutes more to charge a Tesla from a Supercharger, and you can charge it in your own garage overnight. I honestly think I've _saved_ time overall by switching to a BEV.
That SLS at the cars and bids intro looked so good...
It was an SLS
@@raajt8889 oh shoot my bad
Breath taking
@@TheFalseShepphard Mukesh Ambani is a Indian billionaire worth 88 billion
@@TheFalseShepphard How salty do you have to be to say something like that. I’d give you a nasty face but you’ve already got one.
1980: in 2021 we will have flying cars
2021: **Car That Pees**
Let’s hope what they said about 2021 doesn’t come try. Remember I over movies like ‘i am legend’ and ‘Seeking a Friend for the End of the World’
How about the fact that the car is literary producing water as an exhaust? No one is looking on positive points
@@ee214verilogtutorial2 just use an electric car
@@ee214verilogtutorial2 the cat is not worth 70000 dollars and also there are not many hydrogen filling stations in the world
@@lordslushy1868 the tech is developing. It’s not like first plane emerged as a hypersonic jet, so just wait
Ah yes. Sentence mixers now have Doug saying “peeing”
YuuY
Less Doug Demuro is going to have a field day.
And the "tap tap tap" quote too. This video is a gift to all YTPers.
Omg thank you
15k in free Hydrogen? So its free to drive aside from the lease payment?! holy hell!
Have you seen fuel prices in Crapifornia? That'll last a couple months, 1 year tops
@@shanet7511 The average lease on a car is around 12-24 months so I don’t exactly see your point. Most people aren’t gonna have these for more than a years or two anyways, it’s just a local commuter car after all.
You are absolutely correct. I'm a Mirai driver and I can tell you - they practically pay me to drive this car. Free fuel (I couldn't use $15K of hydrogen in 5 years and my lease is only 3), they pay ALL maintenance, and they offer huge subsidies when you lease it. Mine is a $55,000 car (and it has the amenities and ride quality of cars that cost far more) and my car payment is $275/mo. Yes, please.
@@brycegum_221 Actually most Mirai leases, like mine, are for 3 years. And, as Doug pointed out, it has a 300 mile range. You can drive this car from LA to San Francisco because there's a hydrogen station at the half way point.
@@randledmadden which incentives did you use to get your payment for $275? I thought it was 475?
I remember doing a lengthy presentation on hydrogen fuel cells all the way back in 2002 as a high school freshman. Had an overzealous science teacher that actually cared about his job. Can't believe we're seeing this after nearly 20 years.
/\ Fantastic isn't it
Don’t you think it could have come sooner? I feel the development of alternatives to ICEs has been excruciating slow. It shouldn’t have taken 20 years.
@@augustusfukushima5979 nope i like my v8 muscle cars thank you very much
And now we get a 180hp peeing car...
@@yungtooli I guess you don't understand how capitalism works, but multiple alternatives are good for a competitive market.
“There are no hydrogen stations outside California” has Texas plates
Toyota only has Texas manufacturer plates now, Michigan ones too but for R&D.
@@regularperson9801 yea he's speaking towards the US market
Yes, everythings bigger in Texas, especially ego driven cars and of those, especially the ones going to our future takeover former Mexican leftist territory once called California.
@@yuppiemobile69 glad to be living in the leftist state of California which is solidly blue. If there is any takeover, it’s your nut job right wing state. It’s purple going to blue with our excess Californians squatting and cleaning up your vile oil patch ground.
Probably trying to evade CA high Taxes!
I’m thinking the water dump is so it doesn’t automatically dump water into your garage 🤔🤷♂️
or when its cold outside
@@andreasjonsson2761 Would make a nice and slippery driveway over the winter.
Or if you want to manually dump it into a bottle to drink later.
😆😆🤢
Exactly. Seems like common sense
Regular Car Reviews in 15 years:
"The 2021 Toyota Mirai: the car of people with PISS KINKS"
"THIS" gets stronger every time
Getting annoying at this point 🙄
Far from autistic. Keep going.
"He's still on our tail! We gotta shake him!!" *eyes the H2O release button*
Think
Cubic
Gibbon
Put an oil can sprayer to go with it, effective
Bond shit
The H2O button is for when you arrive at your home and don't want to wet your floor so you dump it before entering the garage
Hey Doug, try _holding_ the volume buttons instead of *TAP TAP TAP*
Still not as good as a knob
@i camouf all on ya And some of them are better than others. Volume buttons are objectively inferior to volume knobs when you are trying to drive a vehicle, especially when those buttons are digital or otherwise are difficult to find without looking at them. Anybody who says otherwise is simply a fool who will find themselves upside down in a ditch sooner or later.
"The interior is not weird at all"
That dash looks like if they combined the dashes from the Prius and the new Venza, but only used the bad parts
Trust me mate, if you compare this to the usual Toyota interiors, the Mirai interior will seem like the S class interior
@@marzuq789 Bro I work at a Toyota dealership. I would much rather have a Camry or Rav4 interior than this mess
@@TekuTaurus oh darn, then we must be getting the shittier models in my part of Asia ;-;
This interior is very nice indeed, looks very close to the Lexus models. I don’t know what you are on about.
@@TekuTaurus the camry and Rav4 have shitty interiors compared to the mirai
"The sunroof doesn't open..."
"There is no volume knob..."
Just like the Toyota Venza he recently reviewed. A pattern is emerging...
imagine owning this in canada during the winter and you release the water onto the road and it freezes lmao
What of it freezes in the reservoir or hose itself and blocks it
What if there’s not even a hydrogen station nearby and you never even run the dumbass car?
@@SripalTAD put it in the heated garage and dump the water. Or maybe reservoir is heated
Thats why you can release the Water on Push. You can release it on Parkinglot
@@Butzelbatzer or on your neighbors drive, you know, the one with the dog that craps on your lawn.
I wish you showed us the refueling experience. The speed of filling up is literally the only advantage over an electric car.
_the only_
The much longer range of hydrogen cars over electric is not an advantage to you?
@@amac203 wait hydrogen cars can get longer miles than electric?? Didnt know that
@@ttamcc.4674 Yes, hydrogen is a lot more energy dense than lithium ion. It's longer range and faster to fill up, like gasoline. The main difference (outside of performance potentially, I'm not sure how fast you can extract the energy potential of hydrogen) is that hydrogen is more expensive per mile of range. That said, while hydrogen may be more expensive, you won't have the upfront cost of the battery, nor will you have to replace said battery after 5-10 years, so I don't know which method is actually cheaper in the long run assuming we managed to get all the infrastructure built out. One thing I'm fairly certain of, however, is that lithium ion will not be a realistic replacement for diesel for semi-trucks, since shipping costs would rise exponentially if truckers had to wait around for an hour or two every 300 miles to recharge (and that's being charitable, realistically it would probably be much more often because additional friction from the extra wheels and the cargo severely impacts the range, and if those batteries are that much bigger to compensate then they will take even longer to charge). Possibly we'll end up seeing both hydrogen and battery electric infrastructure be installed, but I'd argue Japan probably has it right on this issue.
Something many people are not considering is the impact of battery electric on the used car market, too. If there are no more ICEs and the gasoline infrastructure starts to die off, battery electric vehicles are very expensive comparatively. There aren't really any sub-$10000 battery electric vehicles at the moment, and if there were you either wouldn't have much range (probably sub 100 miles) or you would have to replace the battery (so add another $5000-10000 depending on the number of kwh you want to add). Battery electric is going to obliterate the poor and lower middle classes financially unless they have some low cost alternative (which hydrogen fuel cell vehicles would be, though their operation costs over time are higher than cheap ICEs including occasional maintenance).
Edit: Coming back to this comment (and going on somewhat of a tangent, so feel free to disregard if you are uninterested), I want to address the feasibility of producing as many lithium ion batteries as would be needed for a transition to a fully battery electric transportation sector (and, indeed, the idea of battery electric even being green at all long term as well as short term). Something the EV lobby has consistently failed to address properly is the idea of used battery disposal or storage. Ideally (and as they like to claim), we'll be able to recycle 100% of used batteries and reuse them in new batteries. Frankly, I have my doubts we'll be able to get anywhere close to that, at least any time soon. Currently, as far as I am aware (and I am by no means an expert on battery recycling, so this is all just what I've come to understand is true about the subject, it may not be completely accurate), with currently available technologies we're capable of recycling maybe 15% of your average battery. If that's true, and if this problem cannot be solved (that is, if we as a species cannot produce a way of cheaply, safely, and efficiently recycle a much, much greater percentage of a battery, hopefully above 75% at least and higher if possible), then there's no way a battery electric transportation infrastructure is even sustainable, and it certainly wouldn't pollute less than continuing the ICE-based infrastructure, since ICEs can be used for decades and decades as long as they are properly maintained, which reduces the demand for new vehicles which would produce more pollution during manufacturing. Musk estimates that with battery recycling technologies we would have to increase our battery production capabilities by at least 1600 TIMES (that would be 160,000%) to achieve a fully battery electric transportation sector, and double that if we want to use lithium ion batteries as storage for a primarily wind and solar grid (though I don't think that is practical in reality, lithium ion batteries are terrible for grid storage when compared with theoretical models of liquid metal batteries, though those don't really have a production line yet). This problem is compounded with the availability of rare materials required for battery production in the first place (Musk says he's made a better battery without cobalt, but I'll believe it when I see it. He says a lot of things, like the Cybertruck's windows being bullet proof, or the Cybertruck being competitive in towing ability with a Ford V8. A lot of it turns out to be untrue). I don't know that as a species we could even pay for such a feat, but assuming we could, if we can't solve the recycling problem, then we would have to increase the production even more, and the old batteries would just get chucked in a landfill (where they're often a fire hazard, because old batteries which are not maintained tend to short and cause electrical fires). These problems (combined with affordability and the used car market problem) make me very skeptical of battery electric in general as anything other than the toys of the wealthy elite, much the same way they are now. They would simply cost too much to be of any other use, as far as I can tell. I think we would need a radical change in battery technology as a whole before I would consider it a viable replacement for petroleum and diesel.
Hydrogen, by contrast, doesn't have any of the problems that battery electric has. It has 2 (and potentially 3) problems instead. Firstly, hydrogen infrastructure is much more expensive to build out than battery electric infrastructure is (since battery electric infrastructure is created basically by running power lines), and the petroleum infrastructure is already in place so it will be very difficult to incentivize anybody in particular to start creating the hydrogen infrastructure without said technology advancing to reduce the cost of installation or large scale government action (which has its own detriments). Secondly, even if we managed to solve the infrastructure problem, it still costs a lot of money to produce hydrogen when compared to the same amount of range in petroleum or diesel. If that problem cannot be solved, hydrogen vehicles will never catch on without government subsidies (which, once again, has its own detriments). Thirdly (and this one is more relevant for the enthusiast space, though there will be some overlap with shipping and hauling), as far as I am aware there exist no examples of hydrogen based sports cars or trucks, and I don't know that it has been proven that the technology can provide the same kind of performance. Of the three issues, I would presume the third to be the easiest to solve, though if any one of them is not solved then the technology will never be competitive with petroleum or diesel.
If the hydrogen you fill the car up with is green then the car is 100% clean. Battery electric cars will always involve mining of rare earth materials
Pretty sure the H2O button is for cold countries so that you don't always dump water in your driveway and end-up with a skating rink.
This or anyone who parks in their garage and would rather dump their water outside
I kinda thought that was obvious 🤷🏻♂️
Or if you wanna drive through your garden and do some watering.
Or if you want to dump it on the road to make a spot of ice so the car following you will slide and crash.
Now when you go out to your garage and there's water all over the floor you can yell at it "BAD CAR!"
Haha bad car
I am pretty sure the H2O button is the equivalent of Mirai training you to let it "pee" outside (In the driveway). It only "pees" in the garage if you forget to let it out.
Everyone who disliked this video owns a Honda Clarity
And are gay
@@edwardvalivonis23 oh hahaha that so hilarious. Twat.
@@edwardvalivonis23 🤦
I really wanted a Honda Clarity, but they don’t offer a sunroof, like at all. Wtf.
All three of my vehicles have a panoramic sunroof, I NEVER use it.
They should just reroute the "exhaust water" back into the the windshield wiper reservoir so it doesn't have be be refilled all the time. They could also have another gallon-reservoir to route the exhaust water into for drinking or washing in an emergency.
In high school I was a part of a rc car team that used hydrogen fuel cells to help power our cars. It was an endurance race that was sponsored by Toyota to showcase the Mirai based in Los Angeles and Orange County schools. I was the lead driver for my team at Edison High School.
Go Chargers!
Edison highschool in Stockton ?
@@DOUGHBOII777 no, Huntington Beach
Duuuude that’s so sweet
That’s cool! What years were you doing this in high school?
"The interior it´s not realy weird" shows the weirdest interior of any modern car
Uh, model 3? I just think the Model 3 is far weirder than this interior. There aren't any recognizable elements except a steering wheel. This feels like Toyota, a little camry mixed with some prius. Parts of it are weird but the majority isn't, to my eyes anyway. Not like having no gauges or buttons.
Model 3 compared to this? This is definitely weirder
@@falkin42 looks like the designer had a stroke in the middle of the process, model 3 its not normal, but its clean at least
Weirdest design yes but fairly reasonable in terms of actually using the car.
I mean in my opinion, this interior is not all that weird in comparison to many of the new modern cars offered for sale today. I think it fits pretty well with the time
They should have installed a tiny freezer so the car could dispose of classy ice cubes instead of peeing.
If all my research from nearly 20 years ago for a science project is still good, I'm pretty sure that water is safe to drink.
Car that poops like a wombat
@Jimmy Edward Probably because of the pipe?
Doug’s ceaseless hand movements are driving me nuts.
And holding the last word of a sentanncceeeeeeee.
@@snowcatxx87 yeah I also notice thatttt. Its honestly so annoyingggg
@@vikzn1607 "thhhhvvvisssss"
Now let’s start a petition for James May to buy this one too!
Fiji
Less Doug is gonna be making that shifter censored in his YTP.
Beenus
I found 2 or 3 of his videos funny, but the rest... It just feels like he's trying too hard, idk, all the jokes seem forced
@@worldpeace6322 I agree
When you're thirsty
Put cup under exhaust to get a cup of water
Probably mineral free water so undrinkable
@@honestyisthegucci modern problems require modern solutions
@@honestyisthegucci dont worry put some salt and sugar and ur ready to go😉
@@honestyisthegucci just pee in it for minerals, then drink it
im sorry im not drinking car pee
So you’re telling me you can either have a maxed out hellcat or a peeing prius for the same cheese?
Depends on the inflation on cheese. Those cheeses are highly volatile.
It’s more like a peeing Avalon it looks like
It might be for the person to bring their cup to take the water and drink it to prove that it's clean water or something like that
I’d rather have a model x for that price 🤷🏾♂️
@Mazen Braika can’t argue against that
"It's not weird in here at all..." Inside looks like an Amazon microwave.
Wow your stupid. Amazon microwave. Good job 👏
Lol, but not nearly as stupid as the person buying this car.
Doug had a hard time finding a reason to be excited about this car. This is an eco flex.
amazon microwaves catch fire
I guess it depends on how much hydrogen costs and how further it takes you compared to gasoline. I do say it's not worth buying now, but maybe someday when fuel stations are widespread and hydrogen is significantly cheaper then it's worth it
Yeah as Amazon branded products are dirt cheap crap
"Hey, your engine is leaking"
- "Yeah"
"Don't worry: it's the future"
9:25 Doug instead of tap tap tap you can just keep holding the volume button till you reach your desired volume level @dougdemuro
Doug, there are cars and people outside the always sunny and warm California...it is not a nice idea to dump the water under your wheels in case of freezing temperatures, this is why there is a button to manually release it.
Doug DeMuro: TAPTAPTAPTAPTAP....
Others: (holding the button down)
So that dashboard design is NORMAL for Doug 🤨
If you reference Nissans, Honda’s, and some euros like Mercedes use swooping dashing on some of their cars.
Well that one is
This is pretty normal, looks very similar to the lexus ES
Doesn't look strange to me either, looks similar to the Lexus ES or LS.
2020 corolla has a screen a bit smaller but still pretty but so I guess it’s normal
More error-laden than I expect from you, Doug! The first gen Mirai is not a hatchback. The gear selector on the Mirai is not weird. It's the one Toyota has used on the Prius for at least 10 years. The "Br" mode is on the Prius too. It puts energy back into the Mirai battery, i.e. it's a regen mode. Creating a secure connection with the fuel dispenser requires no skill or effort whatsoever. The nozzle slides over the car fitting and you squeeze a lever on the nozzle until it clicks. Far easier to do than trying to get a gasoline hose to seat in a car's filler pipe. The water release has a practical side: you can manually discharge the water before entering your garage if you'd rather not have a puddle on the floor. Finally, 44 hydrogen stations is more than a "handful." There will be 100 in a couple more years. I've driven my FCEV all over the state, and into Nevada and Mexico, using the existing fueling network. Thanks for reviewing the car!
the state of California is bigger than many countries and has a population of 40M... 44 hydrogen stations is probably about 100x fewer than gas. (not to say there isn't potential - I def agree they can expand quickly in the next few years, but it's an issue for people who are thinking of buying it today)
"I'm thirsty"
"Put your cup under my car real quick"
*The “This” will always be legendary*
Gino
@Possum *Alright gotcha gotcha*
Doug: "Here's a Tour of an Oppressor MK2"
Lol
lmao
Bahahaa
THISSS IS A 2020 Oppressor MKII, AND TODAY, IM GOING TO GRIEF NOOBS
"Heres a nice feature,Push this red button and you can grief the people on the city"
“As you can see, it’s a very good-looking car now”. Understatement of the year. ❤️
It's hideous, are you nuts??
@@bikes7777 rear looks beautiful
looks really similar to the 2006-2012 Lexus GS
Absolutely beautiful profile. Generally speaking, I'm not a fan of a few of the characteristics. BUT, toyota pulled one out of there sleeve and here it is.
Plenty of very nice (and intentionally weird) design elements that make it stand out from a sea of boring saloons. Certainly not the prettiest cars ever designed, but it's definitely good looking.
This car is gorgeous to me. It's just a shame it won't be widely available here in the U.S.