What people don’t realize is how much of a marvel of engineering this car truly is. It’s amongst the lowest drag coefficients of ANY vehicle, highest efficiency in Hybrid Mode of ANY vehicle while lugging around a roughly 13.2kW battery, AND highest efficiency when in EV mode of ANY vehicle while lugging around a 2.0L 4-cylinder. All while managing to get an impressive 0-60 of under 6.5 seconds? Ridiculous.
Very true. The Toyota engineers should be proud of themselves. I respect the EV hustle that we're experiencing, but I just can't justify one right now when I don't have a reliable way to charge one.
It might be a marvel of engineering but it's also a technological dead end that will kill owners with servicing & repair fees from all that complexity and things liable to fail.
You know the car market is in an interesting place when the new prius is better looking than the entire bmw line up. Toyota is making some great products right now.
I’ve started seeing Priuses around my neighborhood and let me tell you…seeing a modern Prius in person just reveals how crazy awesome it looks! Images and videos don’t do it justice! (Nothing against this video, this vid is awesome!) but seeing a modern Prius really feels you’re stepping into the Back to the Future part 2 version of 2015! And I mean that as a compliment!
It really is just a good looking car, and I hope that in the future, other manufacturers start making their non-traditional cars look like just good-looking cars instead of always making their EVs or hybrids have some bizarre quirky styling to denote that it's not a traditional ICE vehicle. To be fair, I don't mind quirky, but often it's used as a replacement for "good".
I honestly thought the opposite, after seeing it on video and thinking it looked pretty awesome, I saw my first in purpose a few months ago, in Imperial Beach, and I was like... "fair" It looks fine. Unlike the previous Prius.
I have had my 2023 prius prime for about 3 weeks. I have driven 500 miles without using more than a gallon of gas. Its a million times better than the old one to drive and be inside. I love it. And the money it saves in gas is literally paying for itself and then some.
I see a lot of the new ones in the city and it’s a beautiful car. Used to be ugly like that girl in high school you didn’t talk to who had a major glow up
this car is definitely more appealing to me than an EV. 45 miles is plenty of electric range for my family's use and when we do go on long trips, it gets double the MPG of our current beater. also cheaper than most EVs unless you go used and is just a Car which is MUCH more appealing than everything being placed in a screen because "the future".
You have to charge it every single day to get those 45 miles. That in itself is a pain in the butt. I doubt the MPG is anywhere near as impressive if you don't do that.
@@drxym i can plug this in to a wall every night and get 45 miles a day and the quoted mpg or I can get an EV and plug that into a wall and get... 45 miles a day. I can't use the EV for 5 days and then plug it in for 5 days without using it and my landlord certainly isn't going to install a charger out of the goodness of their heart. i'd wager a prius is exactly the right car for most people
@@Ahwleung. that's arguable and it still sucks compared to a pure EV where you'd only need to do it once a week. And it should be obvious that human laziness means a lot of people won't be charging their car every night so the vaunted mileage in the real world and environmental impact will be much less than claimed.
Hybrid and Plug in Hybrid makes perfect sense for vast amounts of the population. Many urban apartment dwellers don’t have an option to easily charge an EV at home. Folks who live in rural areas have long commutes and public charging stations are far and few. Also if you live in an area with high electricity costs a full EV does not offer any cost savings over a Hybrid. Here in Hawaii Electricity costs about 40cents per KWH. The only way a full EV is more cost effective is if you live in a single family home with a wicked PV setup to cut costs. The Hybrid/Plugin can be more cost effective in the long run as well as out of warranty battery replacement in a Prius is generally $3k-$6k compared to $8k-$20K+ for a full EV. Toyota also offers the best battery warranty at 10 years 150k miles.
If someone doesn't have the means to charge they shouldn't be getting a plugin-hybrid. A hybrid would be a better option, but really everyone should put electric first on their list and only fall back on something else if it cannot work. As for Hawaii, I would have thought the high cost of electricity would be a strong motivator for people to invest in a solar setup just to avoid high electricity costs running AC and whatever else.
@@drxym cars, especially Toyotas, are generally designed and engineered to be used for many years/miles. So, a plugin hybrid may be a good option for the person who doesn’t currently have a way to reliably/regularly charge their vehicle because they live in an apartment in an urban area or in a rural area with not-so-good charging infrastructure, but plan to move in the coming years. A PHEV would then be a good way to future proof yourself since BEVs are obviously where things are headed.
@@gerald-j4h exactly the PHEV can be a good choice even for those who don’t have a place to practically charge. I live in a 2 story apartment and have a covered stall in front of my ground level unit. The association won’t let me install a 240volt charger. I can however run an extension cord and charge via 120 volt household outlet. Charging a PHEV like a Prius is actually at least practical on a 120v because you can fully charge in 8-11 hours compared to a full EV which would take 2-4+ days!! Plus with a PHEV depending on vehicle and charging station output it is practical to get a full charge from a public charging station in 2-4 hours. PHEV is easier to live with than Full EV for most folks who don’t have ability to charge at 240volts at home with cheap electricity.
@@joshuamiyasato9775 I didn’t know that. In general, I think it’s simply a privileged perspective to think EVs are suitable for everyone because they simply aren’t yet. That said, the new Prius seems to be a great car, although lack of AWD in the Prime may be a dealbreaker, that would have me second guessing a decision to purchase a Model 3, (the Pruis’ only competitor imo), if I were in the market for one.
@@tnhn1903 PHEVs just make the most sense, even on long road trips. Convenience and low fuel economy of a petrol-powered car, mixed with the eco-friendliness and range of a battery-electric car.
For the many who drive to work, in countries with too cheap fuel and/or bad public transport, this car is a great thing. As long as you can charge at home every day and ideally also at work. Then you only need fuel for longer drives and that's not going to be many drives a year. Depending on the price you pay for electricity, could be cheaper than gas (especially if free from work) and of course more silent which is more luxury.
I have owned the new 2023 for the last few weeks. Has much more pickup than any previous versions. The car has a much smaller trunk. If you need to put a walker or wheelchair in the back, you must take down both back seats. You can’t change out any of the lights on the inside for aftermarket; they all use a circuit-style light. The dome and reading lights in front aren’t that bright. The car looks very sporty inside and out. If you are six feet or taller, watch your head getting in and out; the ceiling is cut significantly lower than in previous generations. The main car battery is back in the trunk, which is more accessible. The car has no spare tire, so if you buy one, you lose a lot more of your trunk. The vehicle makes a cool noise when driving slowly through parking lots, more of a head-turner for people. I do like the lock and unlock noise from the car; it’s new and sounds great. You can turn on your vehicle and off from an app. Car has built-in Wi-Fi from AT&T, not as fast as Verizon, but the connection has not been an issue as the connection is stable everywhere. Also, in the app, you can see the health of your car, see if your doors are unlocked, and lock them. I wish the app would let you roll windows up and down. The car is ultra quiet on roads and freeways. This is the fifth Prius I have owned; they have never broken down. I have never taken any of my Prius previously to a shop for any repairs and that’s with the cars having over 300k in miles. ~Chad James
I own the 2019 model of the Prime. It has about 25 all-electric miles of range and that handles 90% of my daily driving so my lifetime average is 83mpg combined. If I decide to drive cross-country, it just becomes a normal Prius. I have no idea idea why these PHEVs are unpopular.
I'd say the RAV4 Prime is very popular, people want the additional cargo capacity and AWD, Toyota could probably sell half a million a year if they could make them, and if they were sold at MSRP....
Because other countries might have good charging infrastructure? Take a look at Netherlands and Norway. I never felt like needing gasoline, and i can drive far.
Among all the cars Toyota launched in 2023, this is the first car I'll love to buy... It looks sleek, simple and fun... The design is surprisingly more than the worth
I don't why anyone would want to buy a new car in 2023, unless if they're some multi millionaire business owner than wants it as a business tax write-off.
EV mode won't give you the full 220hp. 150 of that is provided by the gas engine, which would be off in EV mode. So tons of range, but quite a bit less than 100hp
@@Rome1017LightsSo run in Auto mode and let the car decide when to use EV or gas. It favors EV when available, but can kick on the gas in response to the driver's demand (merging on the highway, passing, hill climb, etc.).
As a current PHEV owner and someone informed about the current state of DC fast charging in the US, I think hybrids make a lot of sense for many use cases. BEV's (not counting Tesla's because of their great fast charging network) are not a reasonable option for anyone that frequently travels far from their home AC charging cord.
Problem is up until this Prius, most PHEV vehicles got dogshit gas mileage once the battery got emptied, because it became a weak 4 cyl car lugging around a heavy car with a big battery in it. Honda’s PHEV for example, with the battery at its lowest allowed SOC, would get very low 40s, high 30s in fuel economy. I think people get marketed savings in PHEVs being optional to keep charged, but in reality you’re really supposed to be plugging that car in any chance you get, just like you’d be doing anyway with an electric car. As a commuter, the EV is going to be superior. For super long distances such as road trips, this would be a good emergency but then you as the shopper need to factor how many road trips do you actually do and are you cool with buying an inferior product just for the capability of doing those (usually) once-in-a-while trips a tad bit quicker
Once you get out of urbanized areas or off the highway system, chargers become rare to nonexistent. Hybrids are fantastic because they can be refueled in a few minutes just about anywhere.
Other brands of EV will soon be able to use Tesla's Supercharger network. Starting next year a bunch of brands will provide adapters for their existing EVs to plug in to Tesla chargers, and the year after that they'll put Tesla's charge port on all their new EVs, eliminating the need for an adapter. So the future is bright for EV road tripping in America. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Charging_Standard
i hear charging at home is same price as gas to do that for the revian electric truck, charging is probably cheaper on lighterweight cars because moroe batteyr makes electric car expoenentially less effceint because yoru not using all that battery weight at a given time, yet you have to push it around. more energy flow means more batteyr degradation, but you can dvide degradation across more batteriy cells ,its bit strange no company or anyone even claims to know what the best battery sie is for longveity. they cant recycle batteries fully, so more sustainable way to lower emissions in terms of popular normal tech is something like a electric assited variable vane turbo supporting a rear mid engine inline 3 compact 4 seater with the rear seats facing the rear, capable of running on different fuel but primarily sustainable stuff like biofuel etc .would also be much more lightweight for less crash damage to others, less road wear (which causes traffic, emissions etc too), and more crash saftey , agility, speed , more fun to drive(like hypermiling) , etc being cheaper to own over the years, less tire wear whose tire dust from tire wear suppsoedly has endocrine disrupting "forever chemical" microplastic behaving like estrogen... immedeate torque and weight of evs can dont help there. CAFE laws are written by people who dont care about supposed man made climate crisis, most these climate crisis people at all power levels only pretend to care, the some know its actually deception for keeping larger percentage of power to theirself, mr billionare wont stop his yachts, private jets , crazy cars, racing etc. but you can more confidently say chemical toxicity and sustainability of economy are real matter (respect natures design to win in it, think natural genetic selection, example: junk food) consider tony heller, suspicious observers, magnetic reversal news, "VSOF Time Line Class (part 1): Lies and Thievery of 4000 years, the History of the Old-world order Anew" on odysee website . etc. dont support industry until they give what they should give, buy used car and ideally not from dealership or at least dont buy new car
I've driven a few of these and I must say, it really is a completely new car. A wonderful departure from the old model. Nice and brisk too. Finally a Prius that I wouldn't mind owning.
I saw a video that made a pretty compelling argument for plug-in hybrids. Pure EVs like Telsa 3 have batteries sized to overcome the range anxiety of the buyers. How often per year will you need the full 100 kWH out of your 400 kg battery pack? A plug in hybrid might only offer 50 km electric range, but you can tank gasoline if you want to go further, so range anxiety is not an issue. But most trips (to work, getting groceries etc.) will be fully electric. The clou is that you can build 10x more plug-in hybrids with the same amount of batteries (i.e. lithium, nickel, cobalt etc.). They also should be cheaper because they don't use so much of these expensive materials.
People do not factor in the bio degradation of gasoline in a modern fuel tank. Unless you add extra fuel stabilizer or introduce fresh gas every 5 months or so, the gasoline will be oxidized thus netting lower mpg as the computer compensates its AF ratio. Just saying this as a fellow PHEV owner.
@@shadid516 I have seen the OCD people complaining on forum saying their mpg declines. I am saying it is due to oxidized fuel. Yes, if you are not OCD like that, it will not be applicable.
Took delivery of a supersonic Red Prime on Saturday to allow my daily driver '94 Celica some retirement and I love it so far. It's definitely not 'fast' but it's quick enough off the line for me. Despite ordering/requesting the solar roof, it wasn't available in my region (northeast/RI) when the time came which was a bummer but overall not a huge deal. My personal hot take is that EV battery tech isn't quite there yet and it's hard to argue with the convenience that 550-600 miles a tank affords.
Prius 2023 owner here. I'm going to stick my neck out here... Honestly this is the best car I have ever owned. I love it. Previously owned, a mazda, toyota, jeep, and honda.... Toyota nailed it with this car.
I just love muy yellow Prius, no matter what others think about. When I want to run or fool around, there is the camaro, but the prius uses in a whole week the same amount of gas the camaro drinks in just gettin to costco.
You CAN drive Toyota hybrids in full EV mode, but only for short distances, usually under 2 kilometers, it is designed for parking lots and slow speeds. However, plug-in hybrid is basically an EV with range extender gas engine.
Yes all real hybrids can drive in EV mode (not those recent MHEV "mild hybrid"). But no, PHEV is not an EV with range extender . Range extender does not drive the wheels.
@@nikolanikola8543 If you deplete the battery to ~40% SOC, you won't get any assistance from the electric motor, and you can definitely notice this in Gen 1s and Gen 2s which have ~70 hp engines.
I hope you like the looks of the new C-HR. The mechanicals underneath are exactly the same as this. I wonder if Toyota will change their minds when they have got rid of the fifteen current model C-HRs that are on every Toyota dealers forecourt. (yes I have been looking at Toyotas).
i hear charging at home is same price as gas to do that for the revian electric truck, charging is probably cheaper on lighterweight cars because moroe batteyr makes electric car expoenentially less effceint because yoru not using all that battery weight at a given time, yet you have to push it around. more energy flow means more batteyr degradation, but you can dvide degradation across more batteriy cells ,its bit strange no company or anyone even claims to know what the best battery sie is for longveity. they cant recycle batteries fully, so more sustainable way to lower emissions in terms of popular normal tech is something like a electric assited variable vane turbo supporting a rear mid engine inline 3 compact 4 seater with the rear seats facing the rear, capable of running on different fuel but primarily sustainable stuff like biofuel etc .would also be much more lightweight for less crash damage to others, less road wear (which causes traffic, emissions etc too), and more crash saftey , agility, speed , more fun to drive(like hypermiling) , etc being cheaper to own over the years, less tire wear whose tire dust from tire wear suppsoedly has endocrine disrupting "forever chemical" microplastic behaving like estrogen... immedeate torque and weight of evs can dont help there. CAFE laws are written by people who dont care about supposed man made climate crisis, most these climate crisis people at all power levels only pretend to care, the some know its actually deception for keeping larger percentage of power to theirself, mr billionare wont stop his yachts, private jets , crazy cars, racing etc. but you can more confidently say chemical toxicity and sustainability of economy are real matter (respect natures design to win in it, think natural genetic selection, example: junk food) consider tony heller, suspicious observers, magnetic reversal news, "VSOF Time Line Class (part 1): Lies and Thievery of 4000 years, the History of the Old-world order Anew" on odysee website . etc. dont support industry until they give what they should give, buy used car and ideally not from dealership or at least dont buy new car
Only if you really need a gas option and extended range. From an ownership point, using two techs at the same time will only bring extra maintenance cost.
For most use cases, I think a Model 3 is a much better alternative. It's got nice useable range plus better efficiency and practicality and comfort. Cars like these appear to be an effort from a company that doesn't want to put in the effort to develop proper electric cars...point in case: The BZ4x which exists as a compliance car than something that engineers put effort into. And I understand that an EV doesn't fit the bill for everybody, and for those people the Prius HEV is a better option than the prime.
My last Prius was a new 2010 (gen 3). Is this gen 5? I never found the Prius to be overly anemic, but I would welcome the improved ICE performance w/o MPG loss. Anybody that commutes 40 miles or less each way to work, and can find a plug at work, can commute basically for no gas. It's a no-brainer for many. No range anxiety - no plotting charging stops on road trips, while also getting 54 MPGs.
I have many miles in a 2010 Prius. It's fast enough. It's a great car as long as you don't expect it to be something it's not. EVs are great if to drive to work and then charge up in a home garage. If you don't have a place to plug in like many millions of people don't, a hybrid has many upsides and no downsides besides a slightly higher starting price. Hybrids can be refueled in a few minutes just about anywhere in the world.
As an owner with basically your situation, it's been fantastic. I've only had two minor annoyances so far. One is the attention recognition that constantly alarms if you look away for more than a second, which I turned off immediately. The other is that you can't run it as a pure hybrid unless the battery is completely drained or you have it in charge mode which hurts your mpg. I would really like to be able to run pure electric on my way out of the city, forcibly go hybrid only on the highways and switch back to electric when I am on my way into another city with a bunch of stoplights. Besides that it's been great.
@@biomonkey01 Saving charge for later, while being sub-optimally efficient, must violate some efficiency creed somewhere. Humans can't be trusted to use all of the EV before the next charge, so peak efficiency requires it be used in the most efficient (and assured) way?
@@scottstewart5784 It's not the end of the world by any means, but not having the option seems a little off odd when you can force it to switch between EV only and EV/Hybrid Auto, but have no option to just run the Hybrid. As I said, my quibbles are very minor. Also, I don't know if doug had a weird sensor on his or something, but the driver assist on mine only requires the barest touch to know you have a hand on the wheel. In my experience, I could have just a finger on it and it's fine.
It´s a technical masterpiece, fast enough, looks great, drives good. Toyota should be prouf and hopefully, sales will be good. Would take this over a EV any time
I bought a 2010 Prius for 7k put 20k miles on it within one month with zero problems, Love the Prius and when the time is right ill be getting this 2023
I’m happy with my new Prius prime I got a week ago. If you’re in the market for a prime make sure to get the base 17” rims. You get better comfort, better grip and because it weighs less than the higher trim levels, it goes faster and has more range. I’m not the type of person who would put all my eggs in one basket so I like to have that plan b option of having an engine so I can cross state lines without having to join a que of Tesla drivers waiting to charge it up when travelling. This is a great commuter car that would last a very long time. You can use the electric range for commuting to work and back and use the gas engine for those weekend camping purposes. In my eyes I look at this car as the new alternative to a Tesla.
The AWD vs Plug-in dilemma is a hard one in Northern climates. The AWD system takes up the space that the larger battery needs for the Prime. Hopefully we get a solution in coming years as battery density increases.
Kind of like when Ford reintroduced the flare side bed to the F-150. You could get it with dual tanks unlike previously, but not if you get 4x4, because there was no room for both under the narrower bed.
Japanese Toyota should selling this nice silver color for consumers in Japan, good matching this color with the style…a body looks like stealth machine
Just got this car from a 2010 Pruis. Can say I have already gotten turning heads: a neighbor was wondering what I was driving and saying that he may now consider Prius over Tesla. I got a red exterior Prime, so it's a nice blend for the interior red highlights. My previous car was a 2010 Prius, so I have enjoyed the extra luxury, handling, and performance as what I had gotten used to when first getting the 2010. I do think that it's going to hold a segment in the US that's not going to EV. For example my region in the country, you simply can't expect to drive the car long distances and get fast charging. With this Prius Prime, can do full EV in the city, and then do 500 miles of hybrid driving highway (and then later, it's just a few seconds of fuel drawing vs minutes of fast EV charging).
This car was gapping mazda c3 turbo and WRX with a turbo on throttle house’s latest video. I am impressed. Can’t wait to see what Prius with GR badge can do.
I don't know why they do that ??? I want A Hybrid for Efficiency. Not Performance acceleration and Hard Braking & cornering that some people drive their vehicles beating them to early maintenance and Parts replacement
There is still a TON of places that don’t have charging places if you take a trip. Closest place around me is at least two hours away. Having a Hybrid takes that worry away and the time it takes to charge.
It’s an EV with a “backup gas tank” as MKBHD puts it. So you get the convenience and energy cost reduction of an EV, but also the range of more than a normal gas car (Prius Prime has 962km or 597 mi combined gasoline + electric range). Although most of the Prius Prime’s range comes from the gasoline, for people who drive under 70 km or 44 mi (roughly an average American’s two-way commute) in a day and can charge at home (even using a household 120V outlet), a Prius Prime’s mileage might be mostly electric.
Plugging in every day is still a pain in the ass if you only do that amount of mileage every day. You'd be better off buying an EV and only having to plug in once a week or less.
@@drxymyou must not own a cell phone. Literally takes 5 seconds to plug an EV in each night. If you plug it in once a week you are damaging the battery with deep charge cycles
With our family's Rav4 Prime, we've only filled up the tank 3 times in the past year due to mostly short range commutes. Plugging in has become so routine that it's automatic. While EV is great, it's still not as convenient as PHEV until charging/battery tech improves.
@@drxymEV is great if you’re only using it in the city. Go on a road trip and you’re not gonna enjoy doing 30 min stops every 2 hours, this is great for city use (40 Miles EV) and still have the option to use Gas if you need to.
I don't mind the sound this Prius makes when you lock/unlock. Much better than the horn "chirping". That always bugged me when I got home late and locked my car from another automaker.
People make fun of the Prius sometimes but I can go easily 750 miles plus on a tank of gas on my 2017 Prius prime. My last tank was actually 850 miles. That’s because there were several occasions that I didn’t go very far 15 or 20 miles come back, plug the car in and do the same thing again so there were days where I used barely any gas.
As fun as EV’s can be, there’s no way I would purchase one…. because of the 20+ pitfalls. Hybrid is the current greenest option, the Japanese have known this for years… it’s just a shame EV owners can’t math the truth!
Imagine how many miles it would get with the 145 hp setup . They doubled the hp instead of doubling the range .lol very cool 😎 but they should have the model that would give crazy gas miles at the sacrifice of the hp
@@boomclash101 But you don't really need that many gas miles. I survived with the 2nd gen's 460 gas miles. I would even be fine with 200 gas miles, because there are gas stations everywhere and it takes only a few minutes to refuel.
You could use the turn signal stalk/button as a less annoying way of stopping the lane change, just think of it as an assistant like when cruise controls are on the steering wheel I use the accel/decel functions instead of moving my feet so I can relax a little more on trips, but still keep alert obviously in case need the brakes or accelerator, I always felt if I was paying proper attention to the road I could also actually brake faster and respond more effectively since I was more comfy and could focus more on the road and everything around, does that make sense? Use turn signal to begin change and a few moments later when it's where you want, flip it back off and relax, but maybe you wanted a 2 or 3 lane change anyways.... 👍 great video... have a safe day!! 🌎❤️🎶🕺
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1.8 120hp is slow...yes...but it was bullet proof. I really hope in a few years, we will see that this drivetrain is as reliable. Reliability is a big factor for me when it comes to buying cars.
@@thedopplereffect00 Toyota won't move to electric. They sold their patents a few years ago. They will move to Hydrogen and further improve Hybrids. I think they successfully lured European brands into the one way street that electric cars are, just to get back to old glory with a better solution.
According to Autotrader there are 3 new Prius/Prius Prime cars within 100 miles of my city of San Diego. Each one has extreme dealer markups. Meanwhile, I could order a Tesla Model 3 at MSRP in any config I want and it would be here within weeks. Not to mention the plethora of already available marked down new inventory from nearby Tesla dealers. Why would I consider a Toyota at this point???
@nomenclature9607 I would need to plug BEV in and out once per week and use 10 seconds doing it. I would do something nicer for the rest of my 3 mins.
It honestly pisses me off how much crap car people talk about the prius. It's a crazy good car. I have a 2021 prius prime and I friggin' love the thing. I need to upgrade because my family is getting bigger, and I will seriously miss this car.
Idk when the video was filmed and everything but sales for Hybrids and EVs are actually the opposite of what Doug is saying (I think). The very top cars on sale are almost all hybrids while EV sales have decreased dramatically and continues to do so
Doug is very much out of touch with needs of the average consumer. Most commuters will benefit from 44 Miles of electric range with the added bonus of traditional hybrid powertrain making ranging anxiety nonexistant. Coupled with worries of nation wide electric grid sustaining mass transition to BEVs, the hybrid and plug-in hybrid model makes the most sense. This really is the best of both worlds.
All the rich people who want EVs have bought them by now. Hybrids are great for people who don't have a garage to charge up in every night. There is no range anxiety and hybrids can be refueled anywhere in less than five minutes.
As somebody who has owned a Gen 2 and a gen 3 Prius and now who owns a Gen 4 Prius I have to concur with Doug as far as saying that the Gen 4 maybe even the Gen 5 Priuses sound labored my 2007 Toyota Prius which is a Gen 2. Even at full throttle acceleration to 75 mph. You could still barely notice a note from the engine and it did not sound or even really seem that labored the gen 3 Prius which I had the Prius V in did sound slightly more labored and had a slightly more noticeable engine noise but nothing near as noticeable as my 2021 Toyota Prius L. Eco that car seems like accelerating at half throttle to even 50 mph. The engine is way louder and way more labored than the Gen 2 or the Gen 3 Prius accelerating at full throttle to 75 mph. It's such a labored sounding engine in the Gen 4 Prius that it's giving me the vibe that it is going to blow up sometimes because it is such a loud noise compared to the two previous generations. Now I will admit that this 2021 Toyota Prius L. Eco is quite the economy box when it comes to fuel economy in roughly 2,000 mi of ownership and filling up the gas tank every time I put gas in it as well as using an app where you enter the odometer the number of gallons to the thousandth of a gallon and The price you paid for that fuel. The car is currently averaging 68 miles per gallon. I am also a full-time Lyft driver if I wasn't doing rideshare full-time, I probably wouldn't own the Prius because it is not my only car. I have a '98 Subaru legacy wagon as well what Toyota had to do in the Gen 4 Priuses to really get the extra fuel economy out of them over the Gen 2 Priuses or the Gen 3 Priuses was they had to sacrifice the interior comfort of the car meaning less road noise transferred through to the driver with a fresh healthy car that is only a few years old and less than 100,000 mi. This 2021 Toyota Prius L. Eco that I just recently acquired with just over 65,000 mi has just as much road noise such as the 2012 Toyota Prius V that has over 440,000 mi on it with the original suspension on it still that I just traded in for the 2021 Prius L Eco not only does this car have a lot of road noise that transfers through. It also has an incredibly huge amount of engine noise that transfers through that when even doing moderate acceleration is quite noticeable. Not necessarily bad enough to make you think that the engine is about to blow up on you. But when doing things like merging on the interstate, especially at full throttle, the engine noise is so pronounced and so noticeable that you kind of feel like the engine is going to blow up in the car even though it is not especially after driving a gen 3 or a Gen 2 Prius which are both cars that were not only designed to be reliable and comfortable, but they were also designed to be quiet. Whereas they seem to sacrifice that on the Gen 4 Eco models. That whole quietness thing. It's a quite loud car to drive. Luckily, even in my base version of the car it has a very good sound system it's just as good as the premium sound system I had in the 2007 Prius Even though it is not the premium sound system in the 2021 Prius but yes, in order to achieve those stellar fuel economies of 50 plus miles per gallon consistently on the highway and the interstate with the Gen 4 Priuses and fuel economies reaching upwards of around 80 miles per gallon City driving, there were definitely sacrifices that Toyota had to make to get there to be able to achieve having a car that can reliably get between 50 miles per gallon and 70 miles per gallon instead of the previous generations of Prius that were only reliably getting 40 mi to the gallon to 50 mi to the gallon now with the Gen 4 and Gen 5 Priuses your highway fuel economy is what used to be your city fuel economy and the Gen 2 and gen 3 Priuses but yes, the Gen 4 Prius definitely has compromises going on and they are noticeable compared to the previous generations of Prius.
At $40k you can get a Tesla Model 3 long range all wheel drive after $7500 rebate. The Prius Prime is cool and all but no AWD and $40k for the Premium trim is just insane.
i think doug has matured alot since he started reviewing more mainstream models. if you asked doug from 5 years ago what he thought of this car he wouldnt even wanna make a video on it. but now hes giving these normal people cars a fair shot and even recommending them. i think that is so great do see even thought you turned your back on the hyundai venue i still love you doug!
This car is styled like an exotic, only with more impressive engineering. It’s a tour de force. Doug calls things as he sees them. But this car is clearly a marvel.
I remember when he made a video on the Corolla hybrid and pretty much made fun of it the entire video instead of acknowledging the market its meant for.
@@777jonesFor real. Previous generations of this car (as in prior to Gen 4) were never outright ugly, but as Doug said, it looks like a nice car now. Which means that compared to its predecessors, it looks like the frickin' Mona Lisa.
@@planefan5812 yeah exactly now it seems he really appreciates what market the car is going for and ofc he points out some of the funny stuff like the red trim and the fact everyone thinks the Prius is a sports car now and even he know yeah it’s not
I wonder if any of the people that like the looks of this would actually buy it? I bought a 2015 new with the old egg style and there's a reason it was that shape - it is more practical with more interior seating room for rear passengers and can hold a surprising amount of cargo. This does not have that, has the reliability downsides of too many components, and is more expensive than a chevy bolt which is in many ways the new old prius. Who is this for? Rural taxis? People that want a slow but "cool" looking car? This seems more like a last gasp attempt at pleasing everybody at once while actually pleasing no one.
There's many, many reasons why people are avoiding buying an all electric vehicle. As hundreds of videos have shown the lack of working high speed charging stations. Often times the cost of using them cost more than what you would have paid for gas per mile. What if where you have to park your car is on the street, or in a parking garage? If you're lucky enough to have a garage, the cost of installing a charger. Often times the app will show the location of a charging station, only to find out it's in a private parking garage. During a heat wave CA asked people to not charge there cars to save energy. To me a hybrid makes far more since!
I see these Prius being engine swapped. They are slick and gorgeous. I had a 2012 Toyota Prius and I thought then that if you lower top of the car and make it more slopped it would look a lot better. I honestly would trade my 2018 WRX for the new Prius.
Until the batteries can double what they are currently proposing this technology makes total sense. In cold climates (like Canada) PHEV makes total sense vs full EV. On an EV, range is cut between 30-50%. You will not need to worry about distance with this vehicle.
"Hybrids aren't quite where people are any more" is so wrong. Hybrids are exactly where I am as well as a lot of my friends. Sure they're not sexy and the in-thing anymore, but that doesn't make them irrelevant either. For the foreseeable future I see them precisely meeting the needs of American drivers.
It's really nice to hear a car enthusiast, who enjoys the fun of gas cars and the freedom of the current market, say that "Toyota needs to up their electric game, because that's where people are". I'm excited about electric cars and it really means a lot that you give them a chance to shine Doug
I'm 45, and when I was growing up, the '69 Chevy Chevelle SS was considered the pinnacle muscle car. With a 396 ci engine it did 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. The Prime does 0-60 in 6.6 seconds.
B mode is "engine braking" mode. This is supposed to be used for descending long, steep grades safely without risk of brake fade or running out of battery capacity (no more regen braking possible due to full charge).
more regen braking is dumb, energy flow of battery worsens dendrite forming battery degradation, brake adn steeri steady smooth and speed downwhills to make more speed with less need for pushing power. even if you get maybe 40 miles per gallon isntead of 50 , if you can do that for 40 years instead fo 20 years, theres a good chance your financially better off that wway. i hear charging at home is same price as gas to do that for the revian electric truck, charging is probably cheaper on lighterweight cars because moroe batteyr makes electric car expoenentially less effceint because yoru not using all that battery weight at a given time, yet you have to push it around. more energy flow means more batteyr degradation, but you can dvide degradation across more batteriy cells ,its bit strange no company or anyone even claims to know what the best battery sie is for longveity. they cant recycle batteries fully, so more sustainable way to lower emissions in terms of popular normal tech is something like a electric assited variable vane turbo supporting a rear mid engine inline 3 compact 4 seater with the rear seats facing the rear, capable of running on different fuel but primarily sustainable stuff like biofuel etc .would also be much more lightweight for less crash damage to others, less road wear (which causes traffic, emissions etc too), and more crash saftey , agility, speed , more fun to drive(like hypermiling) , etc being cheaper to own over the years, less tire wear whose tire dust from tire wear suppsoedly has endocrine disrupting "forever chemical" microplastic behaving like estrogen... immedeate torque and weight of evs can dont help there. CAFE laws are written by people who dont care about supposed man made climate crisis, most these climate crisis people at all power levels only pretend to care, the some know its actually deception for keeping larger percentage of power to theirself, mr billionare wont stop his yachts, private jets , crazy cars, racing etc. but you can more confidently say chemical toxicity and sustainability of economy are real matter (respect natures design to win in it, think natural genetic selection, example: junk food) consider tony heller, suspicious observers, magnetic reversal news, "VSOF Time Line Class (part 1): Lies and Thievery of 4000 years, the History of the Old-world order Anew" on odysee website . etc. dont support industry until they give what they should give, buy used car and ideally not from dealership or at least dont buy new car
It would be cool if they offered a legitimate sporty option/trim for the Prius that tightened up the steering, dynamics, and handling a bit. An adjusted engine tune would be nice. Although even without changing the engine at all, it would awesome to have a reasonably efficient, affordable, A to B car with the Prius looks that handled just a little bit tighter and had a bit less of that typical Toyota softness that still seems to be present with the Prius. That said, Toyota has never really ever executed slightly sporty trims all that well, considering how badly tuned the SE and TRD sport trims seem to be done. They only seem to be able to execute it properly with the full-on GR models...
@@purwantiallan5089 The way Priuses are designed to work, turbos just don't really work with them. The Motors already provide enough of a boost for lag-free acceleration, and while cruising the engine isn't really running hard enough to meaningfully get boost. The one situation where a turbo will actually contribute is if you're powering up a mountain for 20 miles, which just isn't really common enough to be worth the complexity. Also, I expect the shifting boost levels would be a bit of a pain to compensate for in the software. AFAIK there has been one successful turbo mod, and it was the result of weeks of troubleshooting just the ECU alone because the software is very strictly monitoring and controlling how much power is coming out of the engine to balance with the motors. And at the end of the day you don't actually get more power, because it's partially determined by how strong the motors are. All the turbo did was keep the battery topped off more often. The only actual way to get more power out of Toyota hybrid E-CVTs are motor swapping, which isn't practical for basically anyone who isn't a toyota engineer.
PHEVs make the most sense for the average American, especially for those of us who don't intend to live in 15 minute cities. EV for short daily trips, gas for when you actually need it to drive far. the government and corporations alike are all aware so they force us to own EVs instead. Oh and good luck getting a Prius Prime, toyota will only make limited quantities of them
@@keving1662 all new cars in certain states will have to be EV by 2030-2035. If you're unfortunate to live in the EU then it might be even earlier. Theres no adequate way to source enough electricity fir that many Americans, and not to mention the more children we'll need in mines for our ever precious Lithium. Keep on grifting though :)
2035 for states such as california, new york and Massachusetts. and before that, companies like GM and brands like Acura plan on going full EV anyways by 2030@nomenclature9607
"That's how most of us will interact in the new prius riding in the back of an uber" damn, that hits hard hahaha, here in México this car is a dream, not everyone can have it, just rich people, it's too expensive, 100% sure that you will not see this Prius as an Uber in the whole country, such a big difference between USA and México, very good video Doug, big fan of you since a couple of years, saludos desde Guadalajara, Jalisco, México 🎉🇲🇽
A Tesla Model 3 is $36.5k before the $7,500 tax credit now. They are on the lot and available without any dealer markups. They do 0-60 mph in less than 6 seconds. This Prius looks cool but it simply can’t compete against a Model 3 which has more passenger and cargo space too.
I love my 2017 prius prime plug-in hybrid... I would never consider full EV... not reliable yet, I think this car is the best option and now that it has more range and power, I think maybe it an awesome purchase
Doug is hard-core enthusiast because a lot of testers said the car is fun to drive, especially in normal driving conditions. He also didn't talk about the ride quality which is praised or the build quality/solidity which is also praised. BEV is still a niche market in the USA, even if it is quite larger in California. And while I keep hearing testers going on about how quick BEVs are, very seldom do I see many BEVs, including Teslas, accelerating hard or driving all that fast on the highway. I'm in New Jersey and New York. Maybe in California they are. But here, they are driven moderately. So I'm thinking while some people may be into the acceleration, most BEV drivers are watching the range and going around the speed limit or a tick over.
"Roof mounted solar" Stop. Please. This size solar panel is going to maybe charge a phone on a good day (flat panels get maybe 50% of an angled panel to begin with). Covering your whole car in panels is not going to power an A/C compressor or add range. You need a whole home rooftop solar array to add that kind of charge. Now, if the Prius could act as an auxilliary battery for your home solar... Then you'd have an idea. But solar panels on cars are a dumb marketing idea for uninformed consumers. Like brake lights that do "fancy" patterns that just get you rear ended.
I disagree that Toyota needs to "catch up" with EVs. They're smart enough not to waste so much R&D until the battery tech is ready, which it very much currently is not.
Putting those easter egg is a genius way to check the originality of the prius! Most of the replacement would not have those easter egg, which can help second hand owner to see what have been tampered/replaced.
It really does look good. Shame they didn't give it the same powertrain as the Rav4 Prime. Then it would be getting somewhere in the 5 second 0-60. Would be really tempting to pick one up if that was the case.
But the Rav4 Prime hybrid mpg is much lower too at 38 which is probably due to the more powerful engine that gives you the 1-1.5 sec faster times. Not worth the 10-12 less mpg.
@@mrxman581 I really don't think the engine is much of the cause for the worse MPG. The Rav sits higher and is much less aerodynamic. Also weighs a good thousand lbs more, and is always AWD if I'm not mistaken. And nearly 2 seconds faster to 60 is definitely worth 10 MPG. Hell, my car delivers the same 0-60 performance as the Rav, but does so at the cost of 20 MPG less than the Rav. 38 MPG from a high performance, sub compact crossover is a damn good deal.
@BlueOvals24 On an ICE, performance is normally inversely proportional to efficiency. So, yes, a more powerful engine is less efficient. Which is why the power train of the new Prius is so amazing considering the increase in hp. Looks like the 0-60 time is actually less than 1 second faster at 5.7 vs 6.5. So, no, it's not worth 10-12 mpg less.
@@mrxman581 The 0-60 is closer to 2 seconds. And again, you're ignoring everything else that affects fuel economy. The powertrain is definitely not the biggest cause for the Rav to be less efficient.
@BlueOvals24 According to the official numbers released, the difference is less than one second. Of course, other issues affect performance and efficiency. I'm just saying a more powerful engine usually results in lower mpg. And the extra 10-12 mpg are much more beneficial than the less than one second speed advantage.
Couldn't disagree more the future is EV, and sales data is showing that. PHEVs are the future IMO for the nexg 100 years. With better battery tech PHEV ev range will increase a lot but many do not want to deal with the hassle of long EV charges on road trips.
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What people don’t realize is how much of a marvel of engineering this car truly is. It’s amongst the lowest drag coefficients of ANY vehicle, highest efficiency in Hybrid Mode of ANY vehicle while lugging around a roughly 13.2kW battery, AND highest efficiency when in EV mode of ANY vehicle while lugging around a 2.0L 4-cylinder. All while managing to get an impressive 0-60 of under 6.5 seconds? Ridiculous.
Very true. The Toyota engineers should be proud of themselves.
I respect the EV hustle that we're experiencing, but I just can't justify one right now when I don't have a reliable way to charge one.
6.5 second 0-60 isn't impressive...
@@KMFDM_Kid2000it is for a Prius that’s the point more than enough speed too
It might be a marvel of engineering but it's also a technological dead end that will kill owners with servicing & repair fees from all that complexity and things liable to fail.
@@marcosacosta1319that's like saying "it's fast, for a turtle" or "he's tall for a 2nd grader". Still, not impressive.
You know the car market is in an interesting place when the new prius is better looking than the entire bmw line up. Toyota is making some great products right now.
shame they can never drive good as bmw
Toyota is making great stuff now but nowhere near better looking than BMW’s current lineup 😂
@@aber2912you’re defending the big honky nose grill 😂
@@langraman8756 This is 2023 BMWs drive poorly. Maybe 20 years ago lol
Kia's now look better than BMW's its crazy.
I’ve started seeing Priuses around my neighborhood and let me tell you…seeing a modern Prius in person just reveals how crazy awesome it looks! Images and videos don’t do it justice! (Nothing against this video, this vid is awesome!) but seeing a modern Prius really feels you’re stepping into the Back to the Future part 2 version of 2015! And I mean that as a compliment!
It really is just a good looking car, and I hope that in the future, other manufacturers start making their non-traditional cars look like just good-looking cars instead of always making their EVs or hybrids have some bizarre quirky styling to denote that it's not a traditional ICE vehicle.
To be fair, I don't mind quirky, but often it's used as a replacement for "good".
I honestly thought the opposite, after seeing it on video and thinking it looked pretty awesome, I saw my first in purpose a few months ago, in Imperial Beach, and I was like... "fair" It looks fine. Unlike the previous Prius.
Rare car
The curved rear bumper looks cool in person
@@AngelValdovinos Rare as your mother in mexico
I have had my 2023 prius prime for about 3 weeks. I have driven 500 miles without using more than a gallon of gas. Its a million times better than the old one to drive and be inside. I love it. And the money it saves in gas is literally paying for itself and then some.
😂sure and how about the dealer markups ?
Better drive it a lot.
I see a lot of the new ones in the city and it’s a beautiful car. Used to be ugly like that girl in high school you didn’t talk to who had a major glow up
Got my 2024 XLE and loving it!
this car is definitely more appealing to me than an EV. 45 miles is plenty of electric range for my family's use and when we do go on long trips, it gets double the MPG of our current beater. also cheaper than most EVs unless you go used and is just a Car which is MUCH more appealing than everything being placed in a screen because "the future".
You have to charge it every single day to get those 45 miles. That in itself is a pain in the butt. I doubt the MPG is anywhere near as impressive if you don't do that.
@@drxym i can plug this in to a wall every night and get 45 miles a day and the quoted mpg or I can get an EV and plug that into a wall and get... 45 miles a day. I can't use the EV for 5 days and then plug it in for 5 days without using it and my landlord certainly isn't going to install a charger out of the goodness of their heart. i'd wager a prius is exactly the right car for most people
@@drxymor even 50miles at least.
@@drxymplugging in a cord in your garage after you park is 1000x more convenient than having to go out of your way to get gas.
@@Ahwleung. that's arguable and it still sucks compared to a pure EV where you'd only need to do it once a week. And it should be obvious that human laziness means a lot of people won't be charging their car every night so the vaunted mileage in the real world and environmental impact will be much less than claimed.
Hybrid and Plug in Hybrid makes perfect sense for vast amounts of the population. Many urban apartment dwellers don’t have an option to easily charge an EV at home. Folks who live in rural areas have long commutes and public charging stations are far and few. Also if you live in an area with high electricity costs a full EV does not offer any cost savings over a Hybrid. Here in Hawaii Electricity costs about 40cents per KWH. The only way a full EV is more cost effective is if you live in a single family home with a wicked PV setup to cut costs.
The Hybrid/Plugin can be more cost effective in the long run as well as out of warranty battery replacement in a Prius is generally $3k-$6k compared to $8k-$20K+ for a full EV. Toyota also offers the best battery warranty at 10 years 150k miles.
If someone doesn't have the means to charge they shouldn't be getting a plugin-hybrid. A hybrid would be a better option, but really everyone should put electric first on their list and only fall back on something else if it cannot work. As for Hawaii, I would have thought the high cost of electricity would be a strong motivator for people to invest in a solar setup just to avoid high electricity costs running AC and whatever else.
The Hybrid engine KERS on Prius Prime should be fit well.
@@drxym cars, especially Toyotas, are generally designed and engineered to be used for many years/miles. So, a plugin hybrid may be a good option for the person who doesn’t currently have a way to reliably/regularly charge their vehicle because they live in an apartment in an urban area or in a rural area with not-so-good charging infrastructure, but plan to move in the coming years. A PHEV would then be a good way to future proof yourself since BEVs are obviously where things are headed.
@@gerald-j4h exactly the PHEV can be a good choice even for those who don’t have a place to practically charge. I live in a 2 story apartment and have a covered stall in front of my ground level unit. The association won’t let me install a 240volt charger. I can however run an extension cord and charge via 120 volt household outlet. Charging a PHEV like a Prius is actually at least practical on a 120v because you can fully charge in 8-11 hours compared to a full EV which would take 2-4+ days!! Plus with a PHEV depending on vehicle and charging station output it is practical to get a full charge from a public charging station in 2-4 hours. PHEV is easier to live with than Full EV for most folks who don’t have ability to charge at 240volts at home with cheap electricity.
@@joshuamiyasato9775 I didn’t know that. In general, I think it’s simply a privileged perspective to think EVs are suitable for everyone because they simply aren’t yet. That said, the new Prius seems to be a great car, although lack of AWD in the Prime may be a dealbreaker, that would have me second guessing a decision to purchase a Model 3, (the Pruis’ only competitor imo), if I were in the market for one.
I'd buy this over any EV on the market.
Now, I just hope that Toyota plans to give it an All-Wheel-Drive option.
what about hyundai or kia, do you not like what they are doing?
don't embarrass yourself saying stuff like that on the internet. ALL hybrids will be dead in 5 years or so
@@tnhn1903 PHEVs just make the most sense, even on long road trips.
Convenience and low fuel economy of a petrol-powered car, mixed with the eco-friendliness and range of a battery-electric car.
Perfect for that customer that misses their Blackberry with full keyboard.
@@snakexpert552 The regular one does, but the Prime doesn't, unfortunately. :(
For the many who drive to work, in countries with too cheap fuel and/or bad public transport, this car is a great thing. As long as you can charge at home every day and ideally also at work. Then you only need fuel for longer drives and that's not going to be many drives a year. Depending on the price you pay for electricity, could be cheaper than gas (especially if free from work) and of course more silent which is more luxury.
No doubt. Even in India too.
@@purwantiallan5089 How many % of drivers in India have home or work access to slow charging?
Imagine buying a mk7 gti just to get gapped by a Prius on a dig
as a mk7 GTI owner I can't wait for this to happen
prob would gap a civic type r but not a golf
@@langraman8756it would absolutely not gap a Type R or a Golf R, but probably a GTI or an Si
Or buying a brz and adding a bunch of dumb cosmetics jus to get gapped by the slowest Prius
george you’re supposed to be dead.
I have owned the new 2023 for the last few weeks. Has much more pickup than any previous versions. The car has a much smaller trunk. If you need to put a walker or wheelchair in the back, you must take down both back seats. You can’t change out any of the lights on the inside for aftermarket; they all use a circuit-style light. The dome and reading lights in front aren’t that bright. The car looks very sporty inside and out. If you are six feet or taller, watch your head getting in and out; the ceiling is cut significantly lower than in previous generations. The main car battery is back in the trunk, which is more accessible. The car has no spare tire, so if you buy one, you lose a lot more of your trunk. The vehicle makes a cool noise when driving slowly through parking lots, more of a head-turner for people. I do like the lock and unlock noise from the car; it’s new and sounds great. You can turn on your vehicle and off from an app. Car has built-in Wi-Fi from AT&T, not as fast as Verizon, but the connection has not been an issue as the connection is stable everywhere. Also, in the app, you can see the health of your car, see if your doors are unlocked, and lock them. I wish the app would let you roll windows up and down. The car is ultra quiet on roads and freeways. This is the fifth Prius I have owned; they have never broken down. I have never taken any of my Prius previously to a shop for any repairs and that’s with the cars having over 300k in miles. ~Chad James
I own the 2019 model of the Prime. It has about 25 all-electric miles of range and that handles 90% of my daily driving so my lifetime average is 83mpg combined. If I decide to drive cross-country, it just becomes a normal Prius. I have no idea idea why these PHEVs are unpopular.
I think they are popular if you can buy them. They just have incredibly long wait times
I'd say the RAV4 Prime is very popular, people want the additional cargo capacity and AWD, Toyota could probably sell half a million a year if they could make them, and if they were sold at MSRP....
Base cost means electrics and hybrids are a second car for wealthier people 80+% of the time. They're very popular with Uber drivers though.
Because other countries might have good charging infrastructure? Take a look at Netherlands and Norway. I never felt like needing gasoline, and i can drive far.
what a you talking about, these would be more popular if you can actually get one of these
Among all the cars Toyota launched in 2023, this is the first car I'll love to buy... It looks sleek, simple and fun... The design is surprisingly more than the worth
Damn I want some lunch too
What about the GR Corolla?
@@kamyastudios GR corolla is cool, but this is cooler
Over the Land Cruiser?
I don't why anyone would want to buy a new car in 2023, unless if they're some multi millionaire business owner than wants it as a business tax write-off.
Nearly twice the power & EV range. Incredible work
Agree.
EV mode won't give you the full 220hp. 150 of that is provided by the gas engine, which would be off in EV mode.
So tons of range, but quite a bit less than 100hp
@@Rome1017LightsSo run in Auto mode and let the car decide when to use EV or gas. It favors EV when available, but can kick on the gas in response to the driver's demand (merging on the highway, passing, hill climb, etc.).
As a current PHEV owner and someone informed about the current state of DC fast charging in the US, I think hybrids make a lot of sense for many use cases. BEV's (not counting Tesla's because of their great fast charging network) are not a reasonable option for anyone that frequently travels far from their home AC charging cord.
Problem is up until this Prius, most PHEV vehicles got dogshit gas mileage once the battery got emptied, because it became a weak 4 cyl car lugging around a heavy car with a big battery in it. Honda’s PHEV for example, with the battery at its lowest allowed SOC, would get very low 40s, high 30s in fuel economy. I think people get marketed savings in PHEVs being optional to keep charged, but in reality you’re really supposed to be plugging that car in any chance you get, just like you’d be doing anyway with an electric car. As a commuter, the EV is going to be superior. For super long distances such as road trips, this would be a good emergency but then you as the shopper need to factor how many road trips do you actually do and are you cool with buying an inferior product just for the capability of doing those (usually) once-in-a-while trips a tad bit quicker
@@devongee1776 With a range of 44 mile on EV is more then enough for most people daily driving.
@@devongee1776Hyundai ioniq phev also gets great gas mileage
Once you get out of urbanized areas or off the highway system, chargers become rare to nonexistent. Hybrids are fantastic because they can be refueled in a few minutes just about anywhere.
Other brands of EV will soon be able to use Tesla's Supercharger network. Starting next year a bunch of brands will provide adapters for their existing EVs to plug in to Tesla chargers, and the year after that they'll put Tesla's charge port on all their new EVs, eliminating the need for an adapter. So the future is bright for EV road tripping in America. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Charging_Standard
this is one of the few new cars i’ve actually been interested in
i hear charging at home is same price as gas to do that for the revian electric truck, charging is probably cheaper on lighterweight cars because moroe batteyr makes electric car expoenentially less effceint because yoru not using all that battery weight at a given time, yet you have to push it around. more energy flow means more batteyr degradation, but you can dvide degradation across more batteriy cells ,its bit strange no company or anyone even claims to know what the best battery sie is for longveity. they cant recycle batteries fully, so more sustainable way to lower emissions in terms of popular normal tech is something like a electric assited variable vane turbo supporting a rear mid engine inline 3 compact 4 seater with the rear seats facing the rear, capable of running on different fuel but primarily sustainable stuff like biofuel etc .would also be much more lightweight for less crash damage to others, less road wear (which causes traffic, emissions etc too), and more crash saftey , agility, speed , more fun to drive(like hypermiling) , etc being cheaper to own over the years, less tire wear whose tire dust from tire wear suppsoedly has endocrine disrupting "forever chemical" microplastic behaving like estrogen... immedeate torque and weight of evs can dont help there. CAFE laws are written by people who dont care about supposed man made climate crisis, most these climate crisis people at all power levels only pretend to care, the some know its actually deception for keeping larger percentage of power to theirself, mr billionare wont stop his yachts, private jets , crazy cars, racing etc. but you can more confidently say chemical toxicity and sustainability of economy are real matter (respect natures design to win in it, think natural genetic selection, example: junk food) consider tony heller, suspicious observers, magnetic reversal news, "VSOF Time Line Class (part 1): Lies and Thievery of 4000 years, the History of the Old-world order Anew" on odysee website . etc. dont support industry until they give what they should give, buy used car and ideally not from dealership or at least dont buy new car
as ur next uber
@@kalmmonke5037 i aint readin all dat
I've driven a few of these and I must say, it really is a completely new car. A wonderful departure from the old model. Nice and brisk too. Finally a Prius that I wouldn't mind owning.
Prius Prime still had only 140bhp.
@@purwantiallan5089 150hp gas engine. With the electric motor assist, it goes up to 220hp.
I saw a video that made a pretty compelling argument for plug-in hybrids. Pure EVs like Telsa 3 have batteries sized to overcome the range anxiety of the buyers. How often per year will you need the full 100 kWH out of your 400 kg battery pack? A plug in hybrid might only offer 50 km electric range, but you can tank gasoline if you want to go further, so range anxiety is not an issue. But most trips (to work, getting groceries etc.) will be fully electric. The clou is that you can build 10x more plug-in hybrids with the same amount of batteries (i.e. lithium, nickel, cobalt etc.). They also should be cheaper because they don't use so much of these expensive materials.
People do not factor in the bio degradation of gasoline in a modern fuel tank. Unless you add extra fuel stabilizer or introduce fresh gas every 5 months or so, the gasoline will be oxidized thus netting lower mpg as the computer compensates its AF ratio. Just saying this as a fellow PHEV owner.
@@csmlouisYou can only fill up how much gas you need, when you need it.
@@csmlouisNot using a tank of gas for more than 5 full months is not a problem, it is a selling point lmao, and further supports the original comment
@@shadid516 I have seen the OCD people complaining on forum saying their mpg declines. I am saying it is due to oxidized fuel. Yes, if you are not OCD like that, it will not be applicable.
Instead hybrids have a whole gasoline engine to overcome the same range anxiety. That adds tonnes of complexity to the car - the worst of both worlds.
Took delivery of a supersonic Red Prime on Saturday to allow my daily driver '94 Celica some retirement and I love it so far. It's definitely not 'fast' but it's quick enough off the line for me. Despite ordering/requesting the solar roof, it wasn't available in my region (northeast/RI) when the time came which was a bummer but overall not a huge deal. My personal hot take is that EV battery tech isn't quite there yet and it's hard to argue with the convenience that 550-600 miles a tank affords.
😂 how much markup did they charge u?
@@calokraine5901 None- just paid MSRP. Had to wait 5 months but frankly I thought it’d be longer, haha.
Agree, @shiftnslide.
I live in RI and am interested in buying one. Who was the dealer and would you recommend them?
Prius 2023 owner here. I'm going to stick my neck out here... Honestly this is the best car I have ever owned. I love it. Previously owned, a mazda, toyota, jeep, and honda.... Toyota nailed it with this car.
I just love muy yellow Prius, no matter what others think about. When I want to run or fool around, there is the camaro, but the prius uses in a whole week the same amount of gas the camaro drinks in just gettin to costco.
never thought a prius would be this good looking
You CAN drive Toyota hybrids in full EV mode, but only for short distances, usually under 2 kilometers, it is designed for parking lots and slow speeds.
However, plug-in hybrid is basically an EV with range extender gas engine.
But after you limp a hybrid in EV mode for 2 km the engine will need to kick on and work extra hard to get the battery back to a nominal state.
Yes all real hybrids can drive in EV mode (not those recent MHEV "mild hybrid").
But no, PHEV is not an EV with range extender .
Range extender does not drive the wheels.
@@thedopplereffect00 Are you sure about that? I have a Toyota hybrid and I don't really notice that?
@@nikolanikola8543 If you deplete the battery to ~40% SOC, you won't get any assistance from the electric motor, and you can definitely notice this in Gen 1s and Gen 2s which have ~70 hp engines.
I wish the 5th generation Prius was sold in the UK.
It has significantly improved over the predecessor.
Unfortunately, they sold like 500 priuses in the last year. Maybe imported Japanese models will be readily available
@@ru2225 563 to be exact, and that was for 2021.
Not for UK, but apparently will be available in Ireland. How that makes sense is anyone's guess.
@@DaveP668 In Ireland, it’s already available for €45,900. The Corolla Cross is also available in Ireland, but not the UK.
I hope you like the looks of the new C-HR. The mechanicals underneath are exactly the same as this. I wonder if Toyota will change their minds when they have got rid of the fifteen current model C-HRs that are on every Toyota dealers forecourt. (yes I have been looking at Toyotas).
I’m hoping to get one of these as my daily driver, the review definitely helped with my decision
It really seems like a great car, I'd go for it
i hear charging at home is same price as gas to do that for the revian electric truck, charging is probably cheaper on lighterweight cars because moroe batteyr makes electric car expoenentially less effceint because yoru not using all that battery weight at a given time, yet you have to push it around. more energy flow means more batteyr degradation, but you can dvide degradation across more batteriy cells ,its bit strange no company or anyone even claims to know what the best battery sie is for longveity. they cant recycle batteries fully, so more sustainable way to lower emissions in terms of popular normal tech is something like a electric assited variable vane turbo supporting a rear mid engine inline 3 compact 4 seater with the rear seats facing the rear, capable of running on different fuel but primarily sustainable stuff like biofuel etc .would also be much more lightweight for less crash damage to others, less road wear (which causes traffic, emissions etc too), and more crash saftey , agility, speed , more fun to drive(like hypermiling) , etc being cheaper to own over the years, less tire wear whose tire dust from tire wear suppsoedly has endocrine disrupting "forever chemical" microplastic behaving like estrogen... immedeate torque and weight of evs can dont help there. CAFE laws are written by people who dont care about supposed man made climate crisis, most these climate crisis people at all power levels only pretend to care, the some know its actually deception for keeping larger percentage of power to theirself, mr billionare wont stop his yachts, private jets , crazy cars, racing etc. but you can more confidently say chemical toxicity and sustainability of economy are real matter (respect natures design to win in it, think natural genetic selection, example: junk food) consider tony heller, suspicious observers, magnetic reversal news, "VSOF Time Line Class (part 1): Lies and Thievery of 4000 years, the History of the Old-world order Anew" on odysee website . etc. dont support industry until they give what they should give, buy used car and ideally not from dealership or at least dont buy new car
@@kalmmonke5037this car looks like Clio 16V in terms of performance spec.
Gotta disagree with Doug on “ev is the way forward….Toyota needs to up their game in ev” I think they are spot on focusing on the hybrid still
I think this is the best option available right now over any EV. Good looks, decent performance, and will be more reliable and cheaper long term
Only if you really need a gas option and extended range. From an ownership point, using two techs at the same time will only bring extra maintenance cost.
@@Dntdgxj it’s a Toyota not those EVs with to many technologies anyway.
For most use cases, I think a Model 3 is a much better alternative. It's got nice useable range plus better efficiency and practicality and comfort. Cars like these appear to be an effort from a company that doesn't want to put in the effort to develop proper electric cars...point in case: The BZ4x which exists as a compliance car than something that engineers put effort into.
And I understand that an EV doesn't fit the bill for everybody, and for those people the Prius HEV is a better option than the prime.
@Doug,
Your reviews and opinions are always honest and pretty accurate. Keep it up young man, it’s refreshing to watch honest and thorough reviews!!
My last Prius was a new 2010 (gen 3). Is this gen 5? I never found the Prius to be overly anemic, but I would welcome the improved ICE performance w/o MPG loss. Anybody that commutes 40 miles or less each way to work, and can find a plug at work, can commute basically for no gas. It's a no-brainer for many. No range anxiety - no plotting charging stops on road trips, while also getting 54 MPGs.
I have many miles in a 2010 Prius. It's fast enough. It's a great car as long as you don't expect it to be something it's not. EVs are great if to drive to work and then charge up in a home garage. If you don't have a place to plug in like many millions of people don't, a hybrid has many upsides and no downsides besides a slightly higher starting price. Hybrids can be refueled in a few minutes just about anywhere in the world.
As an owner with basically your situation, it's been fantastic. I've only had two minor annoyances so far. One is the attention recognition that constantly alarms if you look away for more than a second, which I turned off immediately. The other is that you can't run it as a pure hybrid unless the battery is completely drained or you have it in charge mode which hurts your mpg. I would really like to be able to run pure electric on my way out of the city, forcibly go hybrid only on the highways and switch back to electric when I am on my way into another city with a bunch of stoplights.
Besides that it's been great.
@@biomonkey01 Saving charge for later, while being sub-optimally efficient, must violate some efficiency creed somewhere. Humans can't be trusted to use all of the EV before the next charge, so peak efficiency requires it be used in the most efficient (and assured) way?
@@scottstewart5784 It's not the end of the world by any means, but not having the option seems a little off odd when you can force it to switch between EV only and EV/Hybrid Auto, but have no option to just run the Hybrid.
As I said, my quibbles are very minor. Also, I don't know if doug had a weird sensor on his or something, but the driver assist on mine only requires the barest touch to know you have a hand on the wheel. In my experience, I could have just a finger on it and it's fine.
This is Gen 5, yes.
It´s a technical masterpiece, fast enough, looks great, drives good. Toyota should be prouf and hopefully, sales will be good. Would take this over a EV any time
It doesn't drive all that great.
So they made a Chevy Volt... a decade later... Great job Toyota. I hope Doug got a nice paycheck for this promotion.
@@TheSmokingDenand also has low bhp like Clio 16V. 😂
The Toyota Prius is such an iconic car😂
It is It Started A Trend of Hybridsv
I bought a 2010 Prius for 7k put 20k miles on it within one month with zero problems, Love the Prius and when the time is right ill be getting this 2023
I’m happy with my new Prius prime I got a week ago. If you’re in the market for a prime make sure to get the base 17” rims. You get better comfort, better grip and because it weighs less than the higher trim levels, it goes faster and has more range. I’m not the type of person who would put all my eggs in one basket so I like to have that plan b option of having an engine so I can cross state lines without having to join a que of Tesla drivers waiting to charge it up when travelling. This is a great commuter car that would last a very long time. You can use the electric range for commuting to work and back and use the gas engine for those weekend camping purposes. In my eyes I look at this car as the new alternative to a Tesla.
In my opinion, for regular cars, hybrid is the way to go and not electric (atleast for now)
The Prius is no longer the expired carton of eggs you'd find at the local food bank! It's no Virginia Slim, but it's come a long way baby!!
The AWD vs Plug-in dilemma is a hard one in Northern climates. The AWD system takes up the space that the larger battery needs for the Prime. Hopefully we get a solution in coming years as battery density increases.
Agree. And also Stage 1 NA Upgrade.
Kind of like when Ford reintroduced the flare side bed to the F-150. You could get it with dual tanks unlike previously, but not if you get 4x4, because there was no room for both under the narrower bed.
ive seen a couple of the new Prius's on the road, and gotta say, it does look really good! im like thats a Prius? lol
my dad says the same thing about the Kia Stinger GT, ill point one out and he keeps on saying "Thats a Kia?"
Japanese Toyota should selling this nice silver color for consumers in Japan, good matching this color with the style…a body looks like stealth machine
Just got this car from a 2010 Pruis. Can say I have already gotten turning heads: a neighbor was wondering what I was driving and saying that he may now consider Prius over Tesla. I got a red exterior Prime, so it's a nice blend for the interior red highlights. My previous car was a 2010 Prius, so I have enjoyed the extra luxury, handling, and performance as what I had gotten used to when first getting the 2010. I do think that it's going to hold a segment in the US that's not going to EV. For example my region in the country, you simply can't expect to drive the car long distances and get fast charging. With this Prius Prime, can do full EV in the city, and then do 500 miles of hybrid driving highway (and then later, it's just a few seconds of fuel drawing vs minutes of fast EV charging).
This car was gapping mazda c3 turbo and WRX with a turbo on throttle house’s latest video. I am impressed. Can’t wait to see what Prius with GR badge can do.
I don't know why they do that ??? I want A Hybrid for Efficiency. Not Performance acceleration and Hard Braking & cornering that some people drive their vehicles beating them to early maintenance and Parts replacement
It is, indeed, a very good looking car and I’ll take this car over a full electric all day
There is still a TON of places that don’t have charging places if you take a trip. Closest place around me is at least two hours away. Having a Hybrid takes that worry away and the time it takes to charge.
It’s an EV with a “backup gas tank” as MKBHD puts it.
So you get the convenience and energy cost reduction of an EV, but also the range of more than a normal gas car (Prius Prime has 962km or 597 mi combined gasoline + electric range). Although most of the Prius Prime’s range comes from the gasoline, for people who drive under 70 km or 44 mi (roughly an average American’s two-way commute) in a day and can charge at home (even using a household 120V outlet), a Prius Prime’s mileage might be mostly electric.
Plugging in every day is still a pain in the ass if you only do that amount of mileage every day. You'd be better off buying an EV and only having to plug in once a week or less.
@@drxymyou must not own a cell phone. Literally takes 5 seconds to plug an EV in each night. If you plug it in once a week you are damaging the battery with deep charge cycles
With our family's Rav4 Prime, we've only filled up the tank 3 times in the past year due to mostly short range commutes. Plugging in has become so routine that it's automatic. While EV is great, it's still not as convenient as PHEV until charging/battery tech improves.
@@drxymEV is great if you’re only using it in the city. Go on a road trip and you’re not gonna enjoy doing 30 min stops every 2 hours, this is great for city use (40 Miles EV) and still have the option to use Gas if you need to.
Really hope we get a Camry prime next.
I don't mind the sound this Prius makes when you lock/unlock. Much better than the horn "chirping". That always bugged me when I got home late and locked my car from another automaker.
People make fun of the Prius sometimes but I can go easily 750 miles plus on a tank of gas on my 2017 Prius prime. My last tank was actually 850 miles. That’s because there were several occasions that I didn’t go very far 15 or 20 miles come back, plug the car in and do the same thing again so there were days where I used barely any gas.
Plug in Hybrid > EV all day long. Toyota has the correct focus; you're wrong Doug. No range limit and cheaper/smaller battery to keep costs down.
This is how it should all go not extreme to one side of the other
Doug has lost all sense of reality lately.
As fun as EV’s can be, there’s no way I would purchase one…. because of the 20+ pitfalls. Hybrid is the current greenest option, the Japanese have known this for years… it’s just a shame EV owners can’t math the truth!
Imagine how many miles it would get with the 145 hp setup . They doubled the hp instead of doubling the range .lol very cool 😎 but they should have the model that would give crazy gas miles at the sacrifice of the hp
@@boomclash101 But you don't really need that many gas miles. I survived with the 2nd gen's 460 gas miles. I would even be fine with 200 gas miles, because there are gas stations everywhere and it takes only a few minutes to refuel.
I saw one the other day. It did look shockingly good as it went ten under in the left lane.
lolol
You could use the turn signal stalk/button as a less annoying way of stopping the lane change, just think of it as an assistant like when cruise controls are on the steering wheel I use the accel/decel functions instead of moving my feet so I can relax a little more on trips, but still keep alert obviously in case need the brakes or accelerator, I always felt if I was paying proper attention to the road I could also actually brake faster and respond more effectively since I was more comfy and could focus more on the road and everything around, does that make sense? Use turn signal to begin change and a few moments later when it's where you want, flip it back off and relax, but maybe you wanted a 2 or 3 lane change anyways.... 👍 great video... have a safe day!! 🌎❤️🎶🕺
I really appreciate how much more you are working to review cars for us! My enthusiast wish list is: BMW IX M60, Aston Martin DB12, Ferrari 296 Any, Corvette E-Ray Thanks!
1.8 120hp is slow...yes...but it was bullet proof.
I really hope in a few years, we will see that this drivetrain is as reliable.
Reliability is a big factor for me when it comes to buying cars.
I have a feeling they'll only have this model for 4 years max before moving to electric
@@thedopplereffect00 Toyota
won't move to electric. They sold their patents a few years ago. They will move to Hydrogen and further improve Hybrids. I think they successfully lured European brands into the one way street that electric cars are, just to get back to old glory with a better solution.
@@antraxxslingshots well that's going to be a big failure for them. Have you seen what a disaster hydrogen has been in California?
What minivan does 6.6 secs 0-60?
The Prius Prime is arguably the best PHEV and most affordable.
In person the new Prius looks very sleek!
According to Autotrader there are 3 new Prius/Prius Prime cars within 100 miles of my city of San Diego. Each one has extreme dealer markups. Meanwhile, I could order a Tesla Model 3 at MSRP in any config I want and it would be here within weeks. Not to mention the plethora of already available marked down new inventory from nearby Tesla dealers. Why would I consider a Toyota at this point???
Prius Prime looks good to me. I'll consider an EV when I can get 500 miles on a charge with AC running for the entire trip and not one second before.
And how often do you travel 500+ miles in 1 day? I have done that maybe twice in the last 12 years, not including flying.
@nomenclature9607 I would need to plug BEV in and out once per week and use 10 seconds doing it. I would do something nicer for the rest of my 3 mins.
@@snakeeyes9246 Depends. In the past year, I've done that at least five times that I remember (one of which was in an EV, actually).
It honestly pisses me off how much crap car people talk about the prius. It's a crazy good car. I have a 2021 prius prime and I friggin' love the thing. I need to upgrade because my family is getting bigger, and I will seriously miss this car.
They are quality cars
Doug. There is a WAY higher demand for hybrids than EVs for the majority of consumers.
Idk when the video was filmed and everything but sales for Hybrids and EVs are actually the opposite of what Doug is saying (I think). The very top cars on sale are almost all hybrids while EV sales have decreased dramatically and continues to do so
Doug is very much out of touch with needs of the average consumer. Most commuters will benefit from 44 Miles of electric range with the added bonus of traditional hybrid powertrain making ranging anxiety nonexistant. Coupled with worries of nation wide electric grid sustaining mass transition to BEVs, the hybrid and plug-in hybrid model makes the most sense. This really is the best of both worlds.
All the rich people who want EVs have bought them by now. Hybrids are great for people who don't have a garage to charge up in every night. There is no range anxiety and hybrids can be refueled anywhere in less than five minutes.
As somebody who has owned a Gen 2 and a gen 3 Prius and now who owns a Gen 4 Prius I have to concur with Doug as far as saying that the Gen 4 maybe even the Gen 5 Priuses sound labored my 2007 Toyota Prius which is a Gen 2. Even at full throttle acceleration to 75 mph. You could still barely notice a note from the engine and it did not sound or even really seem that labored the gen 3 Prius which I had the Prius V in did sound slightly more labored and had a slightly more noticeable engine noise but nothing near as noticeable as my 2021 Toyota Prius L. Eco that car seems like accelerating at half throttle to even 50 mph. The engine is way louder and way more labored than the Gen 2 or the Gen 3 Prius accelerating at full throttle to 75 mph. It's such a labored sounding engine in the Gen 4 Prius that it's giving me the vibe that it is going to blow up sometimes because it is such a loud noise compared to the two previous generations. Now I will admit that this 2021 Toyota Prius L. Eco is quite the economy box when it comes to fuel economy in roughly 2,000 mi of ownership and filling up the gas tank every time I put gas in it as well as using an app where you enter the odometer the number of gallons to the thousandth of a gallon and The price you paid for that fuel. The car is currently averaging 68 miles per gallon. I am also a full-time Lyft driver if I wasn't doing rideshare full-time, I probably wouldn't own the Prius because it is not my only car. I have a '98 Subaru legacy wagon as well what Toyota had to do in the Gen 4 Priuses to really get the extra fuel economy out of them over the Gen 2 Priuses or the Gen 3 Priuses was they had to sacrifice the interior comfort of the car meaning less road noise transferred through to the driver with a fresh healthy car that is only a few years old and less than 100,000 mi. This 2021 Toyota Prius L. Eco that I just recently acquired with just over 65,000 mi has just as much road noise such as the 2012 Toyota Prius V that has over 440,000 mi on it with the original suspension on it still that I just traded in for the 2021 Prius L Eco not only does this car have a lot of road noise that transfers through. It also has an incredibly huge amount of engine noise that transfers through that when even doing moderate acceleration is quite noticeable. Not necessarily bad enough to make you think that the engine is about to blow up on you. But when doing things like merging on the interstate, especially at full throttle, the engine noise is so pronounced and so noticeable that you kind of feel like the engine is going to blow up in the car even though it is not especially after driving a gen 3 or a Gen 2 Prius which are both cars that were not only designed to be reliable and comfortable, but they were also designed to be quiet. Whereas they seem to sacrifice that on the Gen 4 Eco models. That whole quietness thing. It's a quite loud car to drive. Luckily, even in my base version of the car it has a very good sound system it's just as good as the premium sound system I had in the 2007 Prius Even though it is not the premium sound system in the 2021 Prius but yes, in order to achieve those stellar fuel economies of 50 plus miles per gallon consistently on the highway and the interstate with the Gen 4 Priuses and fuel economies reaching upwards of around 80 miles per gallon City driving, there were definitely sacrifices that Toyota had to make to get there to be able to achieve having a car that can reliably get between 50 miles per gallon and 70 miles per gallon instead of the previous generations of Prius that were only reliably getting 40 mi to the gallon to 50 mi to the gallon now with the Gen 4 and Gen 5 Priuses your highway fuel economy is what used to be your city fuel economy and the Gen 2 and gen 3 Priuses but yes, the Gen 4 Prius definitely has compromises going on and they are noticeable compared to the previous generations of Prius.
I've seen several edits of the new Prius as a GR model with lots of mods. This thing can look badass modded.
In small towns that don’t have any electric charging stations, this is an amazing car. Charge at home and go
Between his iconic 'THIS!' and the 'quirks and features' they're becoming copyrighted creative property at this point and its great
I saw one in black today, it looks great from any angle...another winner for big T.
I’m more excited about Doug releasing a video on a Prius than Apple announcing their new iPhone 🎉
At $40k you can get a Tesla Model 3 long range all wheel drive after $7500 rebate. The Prius Prime is cool and all but no AWD and $40k for the Premium trim is just insane.
i think doug has matured alot since he started reviewing more mainstream models. if you asked doug from 5 years ago what he thought of this car he wouldnt even wanna make a video on it. but now hes giving these normal people cars a fair shot and even recommending them. i think that is so great do see even thought you turned your back on the hyundai venue i still love you doug!
He's been making quirky videos since day one
This car is styled like an exotic, only with more impressive engineering. It’s a tour de force. Doug calls things as he sees them. But this car is clearly a marvel.
I remember when he made a video on the Corolla hybrid and pretty much made fun of it the entire video instead of acknowledging the market its meant for.
@@777jonesFor real. Previous generations of this car (as in prior to Gen 4) were never outright ugly, but as Doug said, it looks like a nice car now. Which means that compared to its predecessors, it looks like the frickin' Mona Lisa.
@@planefan5812 yeah exactly now it seems he really appreciates what market the car is going for and ofc he points out some of the funny stuff like the red trim and the fact everyone thinks the Prius is a sports car now and even he know yeah it’s not
I wonder if any of the people that like the looks of this would actually buy it? I bought a 2015 new with the old egg style and there's a reason it was that shape - it is more practical with more interior seating room for rear passengers and can hold a surprising amount of cargo. This does not have that, has the reliability downsides of too many components, and is more expensive than a chevy bolt which is in many ways the new old prius.
Who is this for? Rural taxis? People that want a slow but "cool" looking car? This seems more like a last gasp attempt at pleasing everybody at once while actually pleasing no one.
If I were in the market for a daily, this would be on the list, for sure. Looks fan-friggin-tastic!!!
There's many, many reasons why people are avoiding buying an all electric vehicle.
As hundreds of videos have shown the lack of working high speed charging stations.
Often times the cost of using them cost more than what you would have paid for gas per mile.
What if where you have to park your car is on the street, or in a parking garage?
If you're lucky enough to have a garage, the cost of installing a charger.
Often times the app will show the location of a charging station, only to find out it's in a private parking garage.
During a heat wave CA asked people to not charge there cars to save energy.
To me a hybrid makes far more since!
I see these Prius being engine swapped. They are slick and gorgeous. I had a 2012 Toyota Prius and I thought then that if you lower top of the car and make it more slopped it would look a lot better. I honestly would trade my 2018 WRX for the new Prius.
Until the batteries can double what they are currently proposing this technology makes total sense. In cold climates (like Canada) PHEV makes total sense vs full EV. On an EV, range is cut between 30-50%. You will not need to worry about distance with this vehicle.
Front sensors looks likes an afterthought
"Hybrids aren't quite where people are any more" is so wrong. Hybrids are exactly where I am as well as a lot of my friends. Sure they're not sexy and the in-thing anymore, but that doesn't make them irrelevant either. For the foreseeable future I see them precisely meeting the needs of American drivers.
9:25 I like that the gauge is above the wheel. I always have the top cutoff because I find the wheel is too high otherwise
Id be interested in picking one up but they can't make them fast enough. Toyota needs to increase production I dont wanna pay 5k+ over sticker
It's really nice to hear a car enthusiast, who enjoys the fun of gas cars and the freedom of the current market, say that "Toyota needs to up their electric game, because that's where people are".
I'm excited about electric cars and it really means a lot that you give them a chance to shine Doug
2025 Toyota GR Prius
Engine 2.7Lt turbocharged inline 4
365hp
Price 87k
Just imagine 😅😅😅😅😅
0-60 in 3.3 seconds flat
Love from India. Your Reviews are ❤️🔥
I saw one of these the other day and actually changed lanes to see what it was. I was shocked when it said Prius. That’s a great looking car.
19:34 imagine pulling up behind Doug seeing his camera on the dash and his hands flailing around. Who the heck's this guy😂
Someone at my work owns one and I had to stop and look at it to figure out what it was, I wouldn’t mind owning one
it's not my cup of tea but I really do appreciate designers' effort to make it look more sporty
I'm 45, and when I was growing up, the '69 Chevy Chevelle SS was considered the pinnacle muscle car. With a 396 ci engine it did 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. The Prime does 0-60 in 6.6 seconds.
I thought "B" mode did more aggressive regen. Closer to one pedal driving. It's something we miss after switching to a RAV4 Prime.
B mode is "engine braking" mode. This is supposed to be used for descending long, steep grades safely without risk of brake fade or running out of battery capacity (no more regen braking possible due to full charge).
Traditionally, yes. But B mode also keeps the engine engaged during deceleration. Unless the engine braking is still part of B mode equation.
more regen braking is dumb, energy flow of battery worsens dendrite forming battery degradation, brake adn steeri steady smooth and speed downwhills to make more speed with less need for pushing power. even if you get maybe 40 miles per gallon isntead of 50 , if you can do that for 40 years instead fo 20 years, theres a good chance your financially better off that wway. i hear charging at home is same price as gas to do that for the revian electric truck, charging is probably cheaper on lighterweight cars because moroe batteyr makes electric car expoenentially less effceint because yoru not using all that battery weight at a given time, yet you have to push it around. more energy flow means more batteyr degradation, but you can dvide degradation across more batteriy cells ,its bit strange no company or anyone even claims to know what the best battery sie is for longveity. they cant recycle batteries fully, so more sustainable way to lower emissions in terms of popular normal tech is something like a electric assited variable vane turbo supporting a rear mid engine inline 3 compact 4 seater with the rear seats facing the rear, capable of running on different fuel but primarily sustainable stuff like biofuel etc .would also be much more lightweight for less crash damage to others, less road wear (which causes traffic, emissions etc too), and more crash saftey , agility, speed , more fun to drive(like hypermiling) , etc being cheaper to own over the years, less tire wear whose tire dust from tire wear suppsoedly has endocrine disrupting "forever chemical" microplastic behaving like estrogen... immedeate torque and weight of evs can dont help there. CAFE laws are written by people who dont care about supposed man made climate crisis, most these climate crisis people at all power levels only pretend to care, the some know its actually deception for keeping larger percentage of power to theirself, mr billionare wont stop his yachts, private jets , crazy cars, racing etc. but you can more confidently say chemical toxicity and sustainability of economy are real matter (respect natures design to win in it, think natural genetic selection, example: junk food) consider tony heller, suspicious observers, magnetic reversal news, "VSOF Time Line Class (part 1): Lies and Thievery of 4000 years, the History of the Old-world order Anew" on odysee website . etc. dont support industry until they give what they should give, buy used car and ideally not from dealership or at least dont buy new car
Good luck finding this with anything less than a $10k+ dealer markup. Dealer greed is out of control.
It would be cool if they offered a legitimate sporty option/trim for the Prius that tightened up the steering, dynamics, and handling a bit. An adjusted engine tune would be nice. Although even without changing the engine at all, it would awesome to have a reasonably efficient, affordable, A to B car with the Prius looks that handled just a little bit tighter and had a bit less of that typical Toyota softness that still seems to be present with the Prius. That said, Toyota has never really ever executed slightly sporty trims all that well, considering how badly tuned the SE and TRD sport trims seem to be done. They only seem to be able to execute it properly with the full-on GR models...
Agree. Wish the Prius Prime also has Stage 2 Turbo Upgrade.
I hear there's rumors of a GR Prius? Dunno if it's real or just a one-off though.
@@purwantiallan5089 The way Priuses are designed to work, turbos just don't really work with them. The Motors already provide enough of a boost for lag-free acceleration, and while cruising the engine isn't really running hard enough to meaningfully get boost. The one situation where a turbo will actually contribute is if you're powering up a mountain for 20 miles, which just isn't really common enough to be worth the complexity.
Also, I expect the shifting boost levels would be a bit of a pain to compensate for in the software. AFAIK there has been one successful turbo mod, and it was the result of weeks of troubleshooting just the ECU alone because the software is very strictly monitoring and controlling how much power is coming out of the engine to balance with the motors. And at the end of the day you don't actually get more power, because it's partially determined by how strong the motors are. All the turbo did was keep the battery topped off more often.
The only actual way to get more power out of Toyota hybrid E-CVTs are motor swapping, which isn't practical for basically anyone who isn't a toyota engineer.
You don't mention the reputation/history that the Prius has for reliability and quality.
PHEVs make the most sense for the average American, especially for those of us who don't intend to live in 15 minute cities. EV for short daily trips, gas for when you actually need it to drive far. the government and corporations alike are all aware so they force us to own EVs instead. Oh and good luck getting a Prius Prime, toyota will only make limited quantities of them
Ya, gubberment and corporations bad and forcing you to own EV. You very smart. What EV did the gubberment force on you?
@@keving1662 all new cars in certain states will have to be EV by 2030-2035. If you're unfortunate to live in the EU then it might be even earlier. Theres no adequate way to source enough electricity fir that many Americans, and not to mention the more children we'll need in mines for our ever precious Lithium. Keep on grifting though :)
2035 for states such as california, new york and Massachusetts. and before that, companies like GM and brands like Acura plan on going full EV anyways by 2030@nomenclature9607
"That's how most of us will interact in the new prius riding in the back of an uber" damn, that hits hard hahaha, here in México this car is a dream, not everyone can have it, just rich people, it's too expensive, 100% sure that you will not see this Prius as an Uber in the whole country, such a big difference between USA and México, very good video Doug, big fan of you since a couple of years, saludos desde Guadalajara, Jalisco, México 🎉🇲🇽
Doug, MOST people still need the gas engine. Charging network is atrocious. Hybrid is the future for like the next 20 years still.
A Tesla Model 3 is $36.5k before the $7,500 tax credit now. They are on the lot and available without any dealer markups. They do 0-60 mph in less than 6 seconds. This Prius looks cool but it simply can’t compete against a Model 3 which has more passenger and cargo space too.
I just want to say, that I love Doug's channel
I love my 2017 prius prime plug-in hybrid... I would never consider full EV... not reliable yet, I think this car is the best option and now that it has more range and power, I think maybe it an awesome purchase
Wow, it's good looking.👍🏻
Doug is hard-core enthusiast because a lot of testers said the car is fun to drive, especially in normal driving conditions. He also didn't talk about the ride quality which is praised or the build quality/solidity which is also praised. BEV is still a niche market in the USA, even if it is quite larger in California. And while I keep hearing testers going on about how quick BEVs are, very seldom do I see many BEVs, including Teslas, accelerating hard or driving all that fast on the highway. I'm in New Jersey and New York. Maybe in California they are. But here, they are driven moderately. So I'm thinking while some people may be into the acceleration, most BEV drivers are watching the range and going around the speed limit or a tick over.
Or way under the speed limit 😂 anytime I'm on the highway i just zoom past most EV drivers
"Roof mounted solar" Stop. Please. This size solar panel is going to maybe charge a phone on a good day (flat panels get maybe 50% of an angled panel to begin with). Covering your whole car in panels is not going to power an A/C compressor or add range. You need a whole home rooftop solar array to add that kind of charge. Now, if the Prius could act as an auxilliary battery for your home solar... Then you'd have an idea. But solar panels on cars are a dumb marketing idea for uninformed consumers. Like brake lights that do "fancy" patterns that just get you rear ended.
I disagree that Toyota needs to "catch up" with EVs. They're smart enough not to waste so much R&D until the battery tech is ready, which it very much currently is not.
An Uber driver buying a $40k car is wild.
Putting those easter egg is a genius way to check the originality of the prius! Most of the replacement would not have those easter egg, which can help second hand owner to see what have been tampered/replaced.
It really does look good. Shame they didn't give it the same powertrain as the Rav4 Prime. Then it would be getting somewhere in the 5 second 0-60. Would be really tempting to pick one up if that was the case.
But the Rav4 Prime hybrid mpg is much lower too at 38 which is probably due to the more powerful engine that gives you the 1-1.5 sec faster times. Not worth the 10-12 less mpg.
@@mrxman581 I really don't think the engine is much of the cause for the worse MPG. The Rav sits higher and is much less aerodynamic. Also weighs a good thousand lbs more, and is always AWD if I'm not mistaken. And nearly 2 seconds faster to 60 is definitely worth 10 MPG. Hell, my car delivers the same 0-60 performance as the Rav, but does so at the cost of 20 MPG less than the Rav. 38 MPG from a high performance, sub compact crossover is a damn good deal.
@BlueOvals24 On an ICE, performance is normally inversely proportional to efficiency. So, yes, a more powerful engine is less efficient. Which is why the power train of the new Prius is so amazing considering the increase in hp.
Looks like the 0-60 time is actually less than 1 second faster at 5.7 vs 6.5. So, no, it's not worth 10-12 mpg less.
@@mrxman581 The 0-60 is closer to 2 seconds. And again, you're ignoring everything else that affects fuel economy. The powertrain is definitely not the biggest cause for the Rav to be less efficient.
@BlueOvals24 According to the official numbers released, the difference is less than one second. Of course, other issues affect performance and efficiency. I'm just saying a more powerful engine usually results in lower mpg. And the extra 10-12 mpg are much more beneficial than the less than one second speed advantage.
Couldn't disagree more the future is EV, and sales data is showing that. PHEVs are the future IMO for the nexg 100 years. With better battery tech PHEV ev range will increase a lot but many do not want to deal with the hassle of long EV charges on road trips.