Dropout or stay in school?
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Four years later, I am sure you have even better things to say on the subject. What do you think about producing an update to this video?
How about directing young people to skilled labor positions?
Valuetainment Know this it’s never too late to better yourself, like study, but there are certain times in life when it’s best suited to do many important things. But know this time waits for no man.
And you never have plenty of, or enough off time in your life. Do not waste.....TIME.....!!!
HI PAT.... PLEASE I REALLY WANT TO KNOW....
IF EVERYBODY TAKES THIS PATHWAY, HOW WILL THE WORLD BE...
IM JUST ASKING, CAN YOU MAKE A VIDEO ON IT
make video on high school drop-out
My parents don't mind about me not going to college or university, they mind about my true success. That's rare from parents, I'm lucky to have them!
Lucky bastard, my parents will disown me if I drop out or try to go after a degree that I actually want like astronomy 😭😭
Houstradamus lucky! I wanted to take a gap year to find myself and work on my mental health but my mom won’t let me. 😭😭😭😭
Paper Monado Blink lol meeee, but recently since I’m transferring to a community college and leaving my university, my mom told me if the community college doesn’t accept me on time, I can take a gap semester ayyeeee
Paper Monado Blink I’m gonna take the opportunity just to slack off and play some video games. Also FINALLY i can get a part time job and earn some moolaaa😎😎
haru baru unlucky me, lucky you
If you're not motivated for school but you can get up for entrepreneurship and work your butt off, that might be a sign to look more into entrepreneurship. Don't ignore your energy.
That’s sound advice
But if you’re not motivated for school you won’t be motivated for entrepreneurship. Being motivated for school is doing the nitty gritty, boring work that is required when starting a business.
People like to work hard to be an entrepreneur because it sounds sexy, until they quit after they face their first problem
@@benjaminsibson8760 Replying to my original comment and yours after a year or so of more experience. I still stand by the original statement, however, you do have a fair point. So here's how I would word it differently:
If you're not motivated for school (because you know you're not developing the skills and self-awareness needed for entrepreneurship) but you can get up -for entrepreneurship- (to learn and improve on the side), that might be a sign to look more into entrepreneurship. Don't ignore your energy. (Furthermore, if you're only in it to make money, get out of entrepreneurship. Entrepreneurship is NOT easy. I repeat, NOT easy. You will feel like you're grinding yourself to death at certain times. If you want to just make a lot of money, get into computer science or medical, etc. A profession that can make you a lot of money. I'm telling you right now, since the roadmap to becoming an engineer or doctor is already mapped out and clear, you just have to hit your goals.)
Basically, if you're trying to flex: stop. Entrepreneurship is not for you. Get a nice job and learn how to invest in a smart manner (not get rich quick) and you'll have your money. But yes, to your point Benjamin, the title "entrepreneur" or "CEO" has been glorified much like "being a rapper".
Much love and hope everyone gets the self-awareness to feel comfortable doing what they think they're the best at! 💯
To add to this, I would say that if you do end up taking the entrepreneurship route, get ready to get out of your comfort zone and do things that make you EXTREMELY uncomfortable. You will face problems that you will find impossible to crack until you actually crack them. You will question yourself and your faith in yourself nearly every day. Like I said, it's not easy.
I watched this 2 years ago and it helped convince me to drop out... haven't looked back since.
Wtf. Gabriel, you're a millionaire now
Thats low
Good boy
I bet you can say "would you like fries with that Sir?" extremely well with 2 years practice
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The whole world needs to watch this.
+P R A T E E K S I N G H A L we agree.
this goes against traditional thinking and will probably be censored eventually
VALUETAINMENT would you include Oxford, Berkley, or UCLA in the list of prestigious schools?
bro good luck trying to pass this to south asian parents. I dropped out of college. my I.T career required self teaching, no employer even asked for my diploma. left that . started a business. enjoying freedom business ownership.. parents now agree with me.
Hello fellow INDIAN
College a.k.a The middle class trap
It sure is but it does work for some.
Anti Lazy lazy
@@kalachkad1678 did anyone ask for an insult?
@@VALUETAINMENT i loved the whole video but just i am really looking for the outro music it's wonderful, by the way i am in my way to dropout, just i am garentteing a income as you ve sad.
And for some is total bankruptcy lets say 60% ..!
i dropped out , worked 3 years invested in a small business and now Im making 50 k a year at 20
😮
Congrats!
I'm a truck driver, and I'm making 90k clean a year 😂😂😂😂, and I'm 26
What company? Or you a owner operator
I'm an owner operator, got my truck and trailer, all paid off
What if I am disciplined with the things I like but lazy with university because it's not my way of studying and it's emotionally dragging?
You should dropout
I'm just like you! But stay in school. Like the video says, if your lazy, stay in school. Develop that mental strength where you can dominate that "emotionally dragging studying" because that'll probably help you in the future.
Learning how to get it done despite the emotional drag... Might just be the best thing college could teach you.
If you like to do it, its not discipline. Discipline is doing what you need to do even though you don't want to do it.
As a high school student, I have the same feelings as you do. I would stay in university to develop that self-discipline if I were you, especially since all of your money and time would be wasted if you do drop out since you wouldn't get that piece of paper by dropping out. As others have already said, self-discipline is about finishing seemingly-daunting tasks that require effort and pain to finish without procrastinating, even though you don't want to do it. I suggest for you to find reasons that are bigger than excuses if you're a procrastinator.
As a 25-year-old. I completely agree with everything you've said. I figured all of this out after a couple years in college. Since I switched from Chemistry to Business major, I wish I could of dropped out, parents wouldn't allow me to though. In my senior year finally after wasting so much time going part-time and working. Finally actually taking classes that do anything with business. They don't even let you take classes to do with your major until you're half way through your junior year because they know they're a waste, and they just want to take your money.
in my country university is either free or not more than $1k a year and the only thing you learn that has "nothing to do" with your major is english
Since you went to college part time, what age did u graduate?
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My friend, what country is it, i will honestly consider traveling there for college.
That is my biggest issue, I’m a sophomore in the business program at my school and I’ve taken NOTHING but gen ed and fucking history classes ???????????????? FUCKING HISTORY.... I’m so over this
Kirko017 A under the radar screen... google it.... 100 💯 % free $$$ for college or universities, even private. The scholarship program is called “Kalamazoo Promise “ program xx
"Schools want to say capitalism sucks. Schools are using the capitalistic system at a whole different place." I applaud you for saying this. Very nice. It's a total double standard.
I'd say schools are implementing communism-enforced capitalism.
No free market, you HAVE to buy exactly those books for those courses, AND we'll maximize our profits out of the books we're forcing you to buy. No free choice like in capitalism, no low prices / redistributed wealth like ideal communism. The worst of both worlds, monopoly of the market.
Capitalism shouldn't be in school. All those supplies, books and activities should be funded by the school which got it's funds from the government or some other governmental entity.
@Jason Bourne I didn't even mention communism? I just said there should be government funded programs for children and school which cannot afford school supplies and something similar. That is not communism or socialism, it's a human right.
The US has a compulsory 12 year education that has degraded because too many underperforming 1:53 students stay in it. It would be better for the non academics oriented students to go to trade schools, work or the military.
I couldn't agree more. I am 21 years old with no college degree. I do however own and operate my own business, I have 1 employee, am currently studying to get my real estate license, I regularly invest in myself, and I take care of my 86 year old grandmother that raised me. I made my choice to become an entrepreneur because I had a reoccurring problem; I couldn't hold a job. This wasn't because I didn't have good work ethic, it was because there was a limit to how much I could earn every hour/week. I am the type of person that needs to be compensated based on the amount of effort I put forth. If I make nothing then it is because I am not doing something correctly. The opposite is also true; if I am successful, it is because of my effort, ambition, and ability to learn from others mistakes, not because of a college degree. I advocate education; whether that is in the form of a degree or not should be based on your personal circumstances and characteristics.
you must be close to 26 by now but is this your own real picture in the dp? uh my.. you look so old aged person close to 50s
@@InnerLifePhotography 😂😂 my hair thinned out at 19 so I definitely look more mature than my age but I razor it smooth now and just look like I I got out of the military 😅
True.
bro,how cani socialise or make friends if i dont go to college?
I'm a college freshman... and I kinda just needed someone to tell me it is ok to find yourself.
Duh Sushi it's okay to find yourself bro, best of luck on to what you discover about yourself!
Feel free to find your path, 50k a year mignt not a good way to spend your time and money on. So weight the pros and cons suit your own needs
dont get addicted
"Who said you need to go to college from 18 to 22?" I am so glad that I didn't enter college right away. I had some money saved up and decided to travel since I didn't yet know what I wanted. In that year of travel, I learned a second language, met amazing new people and landed a job as a translator. I wouldn't have had those experiences had I went straight into university.
S B In my 2nd year of college and feel like I’m getting nowhere. The classes I have to take are useless. One class is internet tools, another is abnormal psychology. These classes have nothing to do with my degree.
Damn your smart for that 🤓
Darth Maul general education that has nothing to do with our major lol money down the drain
Wow, impressive and you did it your way you experienced life. You educate your yourself.👏💪👍
I’ve been talking about a gap year with my parents for a few years now and I only have a few months left before I decide to go to college or take a gap year. I know with confidence that I would be happier on a gap year and that I need some time to mature and reflect on life. However, here in Ireland you can’t defer scholarships, so I’d be losing out on €20,000 if I took a gap year. I personally would rather go without the money, but my parents are mostly paying for uni and they want the money so I get called selfish for talking about gap years.
I'm not even in college and i wanna drop out
😂
🤣🤣🤣
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Hello I️ am a hard working 15 year old stuck in school and I️ don’t kno what I️ want to become in life, do you have any advice for me
Hi, i have a big question. People go to universities, high school etc, because they are principaly afraid of doing no money or not good money without a degree. And they think that to get a good job that gives good money, you need a degree. In this world today, can every drop out or most of them find a good well paying job ( even with promotion and time, a good career without a degree ) ?
I'm not talking about entrepreneurship cause it depends if you start from zero or a job or other case.
That's why personnally, i continue to going to college to study digital marketing ( And for the 1 year of entrepreneurship what i wanted to make, i think i can succeed maybe without it but i will see).
Because i can't see myself have a good job, or good career without a degree and so without good money, even in sales and commission. And if i need some money before starting a compagny. (Here in france, only sales jobs earn good in commission, not real estate agents. And in the top of that, business owners commission like Trivago can do a lot of money but it's for entrepreneurs).
And yes, this side of the world is not shared at school because they want your money and school is made by entrepreneurs i agree.
AND i want to notice that in France, studies cost for me NOTHING compared to the debt poor US and others countries students have to PAY for. I pay my university only 164 per YEAR. And the only universities that cost a lot are the best. Commerce universities are costing a bit more but compared to US that's actually nothing.
I'm from France and asked this question that every day goes to my brain. I wanted to make know you the situation in France that schools CAN make less but when DONT WANT specially in US. It depends of the owner.
( Like my teacher said : if you are here good, if you're not, it's good too cause school get money from you).
My friend also have dropped out so if you can please anwser or helping saying the right questions, i would be glad for all drop outs.
My path in few words :
(4 YEARS more of studies before beginning job+ 1 YEAR of master enterpreneurship), i'm actually 19.
= Digital marketer, minimum 3k/month - max 10k / month
+ if i can transit to entrepreneurship via a compagny created or if a owner ask me to manage for him.
+ Investing in real estate and pay 0 tax if I can (Even Amazon do it cause it's legal)
But if I drop out, can I or other one find a good job career without degree, so i can be more sure that doing entrepreneurship (to save some money before create it) and investing in real estate would be possible ?
I ask this question to for the drop outs and my friend. Big big thanks to you.
PS : Maybe one day, someone will do like Uber have done, make a university, more effective and cheap but it's profitable for them and everyone will be happy.
You should include #8 on your list of subjects to teach in college: nutrition and health - that increases awareness about FOOD
I tell kids become an entrepreneur, or go to trade school.
take it from me who has a bachelors in English AND Kinesiology: I wish I dropped out when I was 20 and did my own thing. College isn't needed for 80% of the people going there....
Yea, it's not for everyone. Some people learn in different way and college don't offer that.
+Elliot Scott Dating english is a useless degree. Kinesiology might work for you. Read, Work. And college is only for professionals now. It is the era of the Long Tail.
agreed.
Absolutely true
English is a lower paying degree.
Three types of people here
1. You actually feel like dropping out and are looking for ideas due to uncertainty.
2. Randomly browsing
3. Students with a huge final coming up and watching this instead of studying.
Jason Dang lol, truth though
Big facts on number 3 😂😂
all 3
3
Two years ago?!!! How long has this bet David guy been here ... I just discovered him four months ago
I dropped out of college after the first semester when I was 17 years old. I had graduated high school half a year early. when I turned 18, I began investing money in businesses. Several crashed businesses, many mentors, lots of books, and even 90 hour work weeks, have finally found a model which works best for me. by March 2017 the anticipated profits on my end will be 4500 United States dollars per month. Also, I will be able to run the business anywhere in the world. I will be able to travel the world and not even work so much. After getting my fill of travel, likely sometime in November December, I will be scaling the business up and the anticipated profits will be six figures by March 2018.
I'm not saying this to brag. My point is that I knew what I wanted in life and I took a step back and realize that college was a great hindrance to what I wanted. Figure out what you want, and then go for it. More times than not, college is absolutely not the answer. my education will never end though.
What do you want?
DoglinsShadow hey man im 21 years old .. from dominican republic. wanna be my mentor ?
DoglinsShadow What business are you in? I don't want to copy or emulate you or anything I'm generally just curious.
Nicholas Sanborn Social media and internet marketing agency. I help local businesses (right now the Phoenix area) expand their customer base for scaling their business up long term.
Aden jesus Pujols Maybe... I'm not exactly super successful though. The key is just making money online by cultivating specific talents. Even 1500 USD a month is great because then you can live in say, Bali, and live very nice the until you can make more profit. My Skype is doglinsshadow though. We can talk there.
DoglinsShadow Interesting. What sector are you primarily in? Or do you servive anyone?
I dropped out of school shortly after reading his book regarding this subject. It's now been 3 years. I have a fully thriving company with a warehouse, employees, and company trucks. Pat, if you see this comment, thank you so much from the bottom of heart. You've changed my life and the lives of my future generations.
how'd you make dropping out of school work out?
@@favorednohamba9511 i took an online course on how to generate traffic to blogs. Idk what you want to do with your life, but my number one advice to you is find someone who has what you want and either buy their course, or be their mentee. I did both, and luckily it worked out. best of luck to you.
FINALLY a channel with soo many helpful things to learn and a guy that knows what he is talking about, WITHOUT trying to sell me a crappy 'quick-scheme'-product.
Thank you Patrick! Keep it up!
Favorite channel on RUclips!
Self Made Diaries A under the radar screen... google it.... 100 💯 % free $$$ for college or universities, even private. The scholarship program is called “Kalamazoo Promise “ program note
What you were saying about the peer pressure from parents is totally true. I have been going to schools which are seen as schools for generally wealthier people, and the amount of pressure most parents in these type of schools put on their kids to go to universities or colleges "that have a good name" is insane. The funny thing is most of the pressure is not even about the learning environment or the standard of education that those colleges or universities have, but the parents trying to boast about how intelligent their kids are and how prestigious the schools are that they attend.
It's almost like a competition where the parent which has their kids in the best school wins all the respect. It is really sad that most wealthier parents don't even recognize the damage this does to their kids as their kids don't even persuade careers they want, solely because of the parents sense of self-importance.
Please reply if you can relate to this, I would really like to know your view about this problem.
+Ibrahim Morris There's a ton of pressure on parents nowadays.
Ibrahim Morris i can totally relate
Luckily, I did not experience that. I've dropped my Electrical Engineering program before the finals of my first semester because of extremely unmotivated unlike on my High School days before. Now, I would go back to school to study Mechanical Engineering and I preferably to study on an average school WITH quality education. And my parents would let me do that.
Its really narcissistic if you think about it
I think this is one of the most valuable videos on RUclips this time, I'm from India and people in my country have wrong attitude or wrong approach towards education and learning as most of them either under peer pressure or under the influence of parents end up in engineering,medical colleges without knowing the actual reason why they are really there apart from the reason of playing a role of engineer in their jobs which most of them are not capable of not because of the education system but because of their attitude towards choosing such a course . I think Mr Patrick has done a wonderful job doing this video and I really appreciate that it will help us and future generations to come .
Definitely agree. And thank you for your service, brother in arms.
You literally put everything I think of and try to explain to my parents into a single video. Thank you.
Kenny Matz exactly 😂
yes. i myself just started my path as an entrepreneur this year. I just dropped out of Marquette University because I realized I did it simply as a robot and out of peer pressure so yeah. I have always questioned the system even as a str8 A student. Then after reading a few books, I came across the cashflow queadrant and realized I did not want to make money just from the E quadrant, but from the B and I quadrant
Keep questioning it. And remember that being an entrepreneur isn't as flashy and exciting as people make it out to be. It's all about an absolute obsession to work hard while constantly looking for the optimal solution to any challenge you come across in business.
+VALUETAINMENT Good response. I expected you to praise him and say things like you can't fail screw the school system etc. It's better to be realistic then over optimistic.
Tou Yeng Yang
send me the books.
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can you tell me the books you read
my friend
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Bro, u should read rich dad poor dad as well..It's from the same author of cashflow quadrant. That book changed my life..
it's the no. 1 personal finance book of all time
I'm literally sitting here crying, because I'm apparently stressed out and didn't even realize it until now. I have to work because I have no family or friends, mother's dead. I'm not making as much money as I want/need to even get an apartment for myself so I'm forced to go to college just to have somewhere to stay. But I'm literally about to fail an entire semester of college because I just can't focus on anything and I've gotten so behind that I can't even catch up and nothing makes sense. I just submitted an exam blank. I just couldn't do it. I just gave up. Just locked up and said, "I can't even B.S. this." I don't even know why I'm in college anymore. I don't know. I'm just here. I'm just taking this major because I knew I didn't want the career I intended on doing. But then these people have invested so much money on me just to survive during the times I had no where to live, and want me to finish college.. But I can't finish college if I can't even pass them due to falling behind and getting lost. College is not paying my bills right now, my job is. Therefore I probably have been 100% more focused on how to make more money than I have, how to pass this class that's putting me into more debt.
I would drop out, get a nice tiny apartment right next to your job, keep it really clean, organized, and bright. Make some vision boards for the walls as well. Create daily routines and schedules, that will lower your stress a lot. Then make it a goal to be really good at your job, to love it, make it a game and aim for a promotion. In your off time, start learning on your own, gain skills, make learning goals, achieve them and make more. It's kind of a wordy read but a book called Flow teaches how to find happiness in anything you do; you need that skill the most in tough times
Snow Rosso how are you doing now?
Look into joining the military Air Force or one of the Guards these can help a great deal. Just a thought
Stay in college. If your mom died and you are actually on your own, apply as an independent and you’ll get a full ride (if you’re in the states at least idk about anywhere else). Then get a higher paying job. If you can’t pass your classes it’s unlikely you’ll make it as an entrepreneur to be honest with ya. But if it’s more of a mental health thing then get that straightened out first and foremost brother 👍. Best of luck
I did college on line and worked two jobs also!
I'm a sophomore in high school and I'm not so sure what I want to do with my life. But I really appreciate videos because my parents work full time and I barely see them only child so don't really have much guidance. Thank you for taking out the effort to make these videos because so many people don't get the chance to surround themselves with accomplished people and they don't get the raw insight needed to reach success. I just thought it was cool how you decided to reach out.
+Isiana Carr-Coleman There you go. Keep studying this content and by the time you graduate from high school you'll have an edge on your peers. I highly suggest you read "25 laws for doing the impossible". You'll understand why once you read it.
@@VALUETAINMENT just read it from your website, lots of knowledge in that book
This is sooo valuable. We're conditioned to think a certain way in this world. You have to recondition your thinking. You'll find yourself in life when you don't follow behind everyone. Choose your own path!
These days you don't even get the books. You sort of just... Rent them.
And they still cost 200 dollars... smh
I prefer rent TESLA XDRIVE for 200$ with tow hookers hahaha i didient think of this ..!!
I use chegg to get used books for $12 to rent each book. You just mail it back at the end
@@milkytaro3201 there's a website for that
A whole website for textbooks
i used to be lazy but now i would like to work 40-50 hrs. im gonna drop college major computer information system but gets certificates so i at least have something. I will gain experience and go further. Its skill now over a paper.
Adrian Vega sounds like a great idea!
Adrian Vega You just described my life 5 bucks says ur the same age too
Well, in IT experience and certificates are king and queen in that expertise. I plan, after graduating with a BS in IT, to be a network administrator. Later in life, I also plan to be a network architect.
Totally agree! I used to be lazy as well. I guess that's the curse of growing up in a comfortable middle class family.
And nobody is gonna hire you and give you experience cause you ain't got no degree...It's paper gets you the opportunity to get skills
I am sincerely blown away by how savvy you are!! You are my inspiration! Thank you VERY much Patrick!!
+Jessi Jessi You got it.
Pat start your own college! I will sign up and my kids!! I agree we need more practical application teaching.
Dropout here as well, after paying myself a few years of university, and when finally gave up the idea of paying further, in favor of leaving the country to follow my dreams in a different country, having bought a plane ticket(one way only) with money borrowed from friends(because I was bankrupt at that moment).
how did it work out?
It worked out decently. I have my own business(a creative agency) after 3 years in the UK(while working for other people), employing a few people so far(after 2 years more, since I started).
Thanks.
Peter Istrate all the best
Best luck man!
All the best man ! You got this!
Dude, whenever you started talking about "Subjects to teach in college" I WAS SO HAPPY!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK ABOUT!! Why are we teaching people how to use MLA format or the pythagorean theorem when we could be teaching people how to do TAXES, make friends, make eye contact, communicate, how to save money, stop procrastinating. Like, these seem WAY more important! Thank you!
Because I learned that in junior high school, sports and Boy Scouts.
One of the most best and information video I have ever watched. It shares such an amazing way to address so many challenges that the world is currently facing. Thank you so much Patrick. Incredible.
This guy is brilliant. He puts it out just d way I want it, & u can tell he's reeling it all out deep down from his soul. I'm a university graduate though but I always felt I was wasting d time I should use to hustle on academics then. I think I found a mentor; God bless d internet!
Real education is the school of life. You sir would make a brilliant collage professor.
Shout out from Melbourne Australia
Great Video Pat, you really make a difference in my life and many others. -Thanks!
Glad to hear that. That's the idea.
+VALUETAINMENT well, what can i say! there are very few successful people out there who really want everyone to grow and give the best advice! thanks!
NICE TO SEE YOU REPLY TO COMMENTS
THANKS
This is your best video I've seen and, in addition, the most passionate I've seen you speak about a subject.
I agree with Antonio Rubio from Peru! Let's change the educational system already. Patrick, with your help we can make a change. PUBLISH THAT BOOK!
I am a straight A student and I’ve been thinking about dropping out for a month now. I just don’t have the strength to because my family think the only way to success is education😭😭
How's your situation now?. Have you told them?
Yh.. I did.. but I’m I have one semester away from getting my associates degree. After that I ll drop out
@@cindychelsea784 Same but I will have to continue with school cos of my *African parents*. Will finish my associates degree next year. School isn't making me happy
My case here.I had already dropped out from the college of Engineering but when my parents knew it.. I just had to go back.😂I am just waiting for the years to fly and I pursue my path.😂
Honestly Cindy, it’s not the only way, but if we are being honest here, if you are African American, education is the cover charge to get into the party, what you do when you’re in the room is dependent on your intelligence, persistence, and ambition.
Literally every parent: They can never take away your education from you.
Me: THEY TOOK MY FINANCIAL FREEDOM FROM ME WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
This is the most pure and heartwarming channel on RUclips
I must say that watching your videos I find it fascinating how much honest, realistic, and positive you are as a person. I came from the rock bottom in a small country and everyone in my environment were so judgmental towards rich and successful people. Constantly saying how they are all crooks and bad people and that they've accomplished everything with frauds, and criminal, which is often case over here. But I always wanted to be successful and maintain my honesty and values and even though everyone told me it's impossible I kept going, and right now I work for an amazing agency and my CEO told me to watch your videos to educate myself, and I am more than grateful both to him and to you. I see you as a role model and a living proof that you can be successful and well situated without being pure evil on two legs. So thank you. :)
I just started my sophomore year of college and I’m really starting to make a plan to drop out. This video has really helped me and I am definitely going to use it as a way to explain myself to my parents and others, so they have the same resources in their own arguments as why I should stay. At this moment I just feel like I’m waisting my time and my parents money because I really don’t know what I want to do, and I feel like I’m too young to really understand the true value that college can have on my life. This is such a great video. Thanks
Good luck! I'm over here trying to make my escape too.
I dropped out and then went back. In the 1st year I was not getting into my major. I then did something else and later went back t school. I wanted courses that could get me a job if I had to drop out again. I saw people with a biology degree that could not find a job. I got information.
Im so glad I found your youtube channel. you are very wise and helpful for young people and business people
It's amazing. I am only halfway through this video and every point you have brought up I brought up myself back when I was in school too. Your logic is right on point. I did finish and went on for a MBA, but I felt exactly the same while my family absolutely did not! Thank you very much for your honesty, which is as you have brought up in other videos one of the greatest assets you can have as people need to feel they can trust you.
Fascinating info! Facts and common sense from the parents to their kids to guide them with logic and reality is the key.
Great video with extremely informative facts.
And to think these numbers are outdated and it’s only gotten worse in 2023
Some straight facts this guy is dropping
Thanks David !!! Valuetainment is , by far...the most informative videos I have ever watched. This video is, by far, the most important for any young person to watch. My daughter is now 15, and soon...she will be coming to that point in her life...to go, or not to go to college. Your argument is spot on. I am a retired veteran finishing my degree and starting my own business at the same time. I also work in the department creating and teaching a field of study that is directly related to my business. As part of the development, I have convinced the "higher ups" that a course in Entrepreneurship is a must have for a person to succeed in this field upon graduating. I have had the privilege of speaking with a Senator who visited my "class" and we spoke of student success in this field. Again....a course in Entrepreneurship will help solidify a person in making something of their degree....instead of accepting a "safe" mediocre job, making someone else rich. Instead of accepting a job outside of their degree field due to the job market being flooded with too many graduates applying to that position. "Give a man a fish...." Entrepreneurship will teach a man (or woman) "to fish".
By the way...Thank you for your service, to this country AND to humanity, with these videos.
Salute.....
Thank you for sharing these "reality check" thoughts with us... I finally found someone who shares the same advocacy to improve the current education system.. that values integrating specifically, those subjects in real life setting like parenting and preparing younger ones on aiming to be a "prepared lifetime spouse and role model parents for a better world tomorrow". I'm pursuing additional units in teaching now, precisely to pursue that goal in my available capacity as I look forward to take part in the solution I wish to see. I will really appreciate your mentorship and hope we can work hand in hand to make our advocacies a reality in our respective countries. I agree that much can be accomplished when done with a team with a growth and finisher mentality. Thank you for your hard work in making worthwhile videos...truly appreciated!!!! Hope to hear from you soon.- AHA,7/30/2017
DAMN, this hits hard. So true.
Watching in 2019, and I wish I saw this earlier 💯
Thank you Patt
Well said about the connection piece of parents monitoring kids behavior and interests
Thank you for saying something that I have been thinking for a while, I wish more people could watch this and also see this point of view in order to start some change
i would definitely send my kids to your school.
Stay tuned. 👍👊
I retired from US Air Force after 25 years. This video is fantastic. My daughter received a 4 year ROTC scholarship from FSU. She dropped out after first year. Why? She lacked the ability to organize her thoughts and put pen to paper. She now works for a union that does movie and TV sets. She loves it!!!! College was not her thing.
i want to join the us marines, im mexican, any advice bro? 17 years old
I truly appreciate your video with your point of view. My 21 yo daughter will love to watch it. These are the issues that she brings to my attention. She will never drop out of college since she knows what path she wants to take and she is straight As student. My older boy that currently serves in the Navy listens to your show. He gave me a great sense of pride when I mentioned your show and he knew all about it and listening to him elaborating. Thanks for bringing such a diverse show to us.
I completely agree with this Patrick. Thanks for this video and for all the others you make. I wish I watched this before I went and got a degree. What a waste of time and money. Work ethic is the most important thing for success for sure. I have a successful business of my own now that I am very grateful for but It has nothing to do with a degree and everything to do with discipline and work ethic. Watching a video from the late great Jim Rohn changed the way I looked at life. Jim Rohn youtube videos were way more valuable to me then a four year college degree. Thank You Valutainment for posting this.
No pyramid scheme, pure tips of life, love it!
But please add more "keywords" like "should I stop to go to college" at your video Tags, so people get easier redirected to watch this video... So far, love it
this video made me take a more mature vision of my current situation, I really appreciated it. In Chile we are taught to go to college 'cause our parents couldn't afford it. In the 60~80's you would have amazing job opportunities with really good incomes, but not anymore. Nowadays it's all about privates schools which offer the same careers and you don't even need good grades ,it's obiously more expensive but so is the public one ( my career costs around 4k per year, and here the minimun wage is only $500 USD) I would love my parents could change their minds, 'cause I think if you are happy with what you are doing, and you can survive with that income, nothing else should matters.
Patricia Bañares from Concepción, Chile.
in brazil the minimun wage is $278 + the worlds biggest taxes
mi papa tiene 67 años estudio ingieneria mecanica,trabajo bien por un tiempo lo despidieron y nunca mas encontro pega como ingeniero,ahora trabaja fiscalizando micros.Si eso le paso a el años atras no me imagino lo que me pasaria a mi ahora con la cantidad de gente que esta entrando a la universidad.Ya no es plata segura la u.
This is a valuable presentation and lecture; absolutely wonderful! Great advice.
Thank you for this video. Very thorough. Lot of points and angles worth considering. The education system is raking in our dollars. And not everyone learns the same way. Yes. Voting, taxes, and personal finance. Life mechanics.
Like you said so well, college is still needed for careers like mine-anesthesia...but I do think recruiters can sign up students and pay them stipends during school or hospitals can reimburse anesthetists for contracting with them for a period of time- Neither of my parents graduated HIGH SCHOOL and I paid for my own school and worked whenever I could. Make the kid pay and they will do better and finish school in time because it’s THEIR MONEY.
Mind blown, I have ideas of starting a business and I thought college will make it work for me .Now I see I can make it on my own with no college needed . Thanks I'm a new subscriber and Im starting to watch your vidoes and its pushing me to start my business NOW :)
+Eduardo Huerta 👊🏼
Valuetainment pat whats a gab?
How's it going
Hardik Mahajan I do amazon marketing its booming
Bro i suggest you learn a high income skill first like something you can rely on to generate you alot of cash before starting a business. That way when you fail your first business, you won't fall down so hard because your skills WILL make you money anyways. Watch Dan Lok's Wealth Triangle video bro it explains what I mean. And good luck with life! We're on the same track as a matter of fact
Thank you talking about this subject Pat! Very thought provoking and insightful!
I dropped out and told my parents that I didn't want them paying for my college education. Many years later, I developed indoor/outdoor golf schools. It was a fantastic learning opportunity. I'm a visionary. I've had many great ideas where people thought I was completely bonkers! One of them was the concept of Netflix, before there was a Blockbusters! I didn't follow thru with it because I started to believe that I it was better to have the good opinion of people and be well-liked rather than take crazy risks on concepts people couldn't conceive. Now, many moons later, having learned my lesson(s), I'm back and I know who I am.
I want to thank you for these fantastic coaching sessions! My take-away is: find something that makes you crazy excited to create, find a mentor, become an expert, and believe in yourself, then follow-thru!
You're the best! I'm always inspired by each video. Wishing you success in everything you do!
I realized everything that he is saying back then in the 1990's when I was in high-school I avoided all of the collage crap and became a full time custodian in a public school on longisland New York. I have no debt and I'm making awesome money.
totally agree. I did a whole documentary about alternative education, and self directed learning. I got involved in alternative education, and began teaching blogging and community building. I studied neuromarketing and advertising as well as film on my own. I've had so many adventures and became a digital nomad. Learning every day and I'm teaching others to do the same :)
+Isabelle Rizo What was the documentary called?
The BellaVie project Documentary
Isabelle Rizo A under the radar screen... google it.... 100 💯 % free $$$ for college or universities, even private. The scholarship program is called “Kalamazoo Promise “ program gre
I wish RUclips would have existed when I was young and being able to see you then. I would have avoided a lot of things and done things differently. Thank you so much for your words that now I see as reality at my age. You really do make a positive difference in this world!!
this video is priceless. and now that i know about it i would actually pay for it to rewatch, especially the knew subjects he mentioned at the end.
perfect topic. thank you
Yes, very good talk!
How the hell can you speak for 36 minutes straight?
Fucking dead 😂
Peer pressure 😂
Lol ...passion
Eating fufu a lot nowadays
Teachers do it all the time bruh
Another great video, Patrick. I wish I had your education when I was in college. Just wasted so much time there. Most professors suck-they want you to fail. You’re right about them. Many of them have never owned businesses. Now I’m middle-aged and learning things I should have learned in my 20’s. A lot of trials and tribulations. Please keep putting out your videos. You are now one of my mentors...
Sir, you're an inspiration to my life. Thank you for all this free knowledge.
Learnt more in my first week of attempting to go out into the industry I was studying than 18 months of university. Things they never taught me how to do that are vital capabilities to survive let alone succeed in that industry.
I learnt more in the sales jobs I had for 6 years as well.
24:05 - 25:25 gave me f***ing goosebumps. That hit hard- really hard.
Pat, I'm pumped, left school recently, was studying design at a community college in KC. Stayed in touch with an instructor and he sent a job to me. Took me 10 hrs and I only made $50 - however, I was more excited about getting paid to learn vs the opposite at school. The commute to school alone came to 30hrs a semester. The youtube videos I took advantage of there covered more in those hrs. than a whole semester at school. Thanks for being a virtual mentor.
A few days ago I discovered you. I am so impressed with your videos. You are super sharp. Thank you. I have been a business owner for 30 years. I am a Legal Latina that really loves America. I bet the colleges are not happy with you. You are so correct about everything.
@Valuetainment Your videos are amazing & inspiring! So thankful I discovered your channel! Very well spoken too :)
+TRIPLEMCHIC Thanks. I'm glad you found us.....
I have been listening to the guy for years and he makes sense from A to Z. Please run for a governors office and make one state great so all other states can look and learn and mimic it.
I am tired seeing failed states and cities all around.
Your information is very important and Logic. I really like to listen to your topics many thanks🙏 God bless you and Bless America 🇱🇷
By far the most REAL videos ..... Seriously!!
i kinda disagree on the engineering part i am studying mechanical engineering for 3 years now and it really disappoints me that iam not learning anything in university even in my classes almost all students are either sleeping or playing on their phones even one of my friends told me that you only apply 15% at the most of what you learned in collage the exam system is also unfair like you can not study at all and u still get a good grade if you manged to cheat it is not about learning it is about getting the good grades which is either memorizing or cheating
Where are you from? Studying engineering in Germany is a 40-60h job to get the Bachelor Degree, it`s really tough, getting the Master Degree only 10-20h a week, because you specialise in things you already know.
you should go to college to get your punctuation checked
He says that because you can not become a professional engineer without school. At least the country I live in is that way
zodia mc But in Germany you do learn useful things during your bachelor's, right? That person states that you use onlx about 15% of what you learn.
essennagerry nah, 10-15% is right, especially in engineering. for example: you have to do the courses math 1-3, but for 99% of all the work you do in real life, normal integrals are enough, which you learn in math 1 heck what you even learn in school. you dont need integrals in multiple dimensions from math 2 and 3. but you might need it for a phd. that is what people dont seem to understand. you go to university to learn academic work, you dont learn practical things. that is not the point. i dont know when people started to think that academic work = practical work.
The thing is, I'm only disciplined when it's for something I'm passionate about. I'm not lazy with chores and working out but when it comes to things like math, I hate it but I still finish it. Should I drop out?
That is the perfect title one of the best youtube channels putting out valuable content while still entertaining me.
I watched your video Stay in School or Drop Out video and I have to let you know how much I appreciate this video because it has been a gripe of mine for a long time and these are things I wish I knew earlier. I dropped out of college after nearly 2 years because I still wasn't sure on my degree path so I found myself taking multiple paths simultaneously anticipating a decision. Then I found myself in the security field. I found something I enjoy, that I'm good at, something I enjoy getting up every day and doing. I wish I hadn't accumulated the debt in college and instead spent that same time and energy doing what I enjoy. I went from working as an unarmed guard at some apartment to a team leader on a diplomat protection detail to now running a company of about 50 professionals in security and law enforcement where we specialize in criminal intervention and surveillance. I am now a certified instructor for my state where I teach things I've done over the years such as investigations, law enforcement firearms, defensive tactics, etc. Its only been about 4 years since I started in that run down apartment but it seems like I've been doing it all my life because of the fact that I spent so much time and energy and money on becoming better at what I do. I trained constantly while starving for food at times but it was worth it. I'm far from done. I have major investors in the area approaching me to start a business because they see how passionate and knowledgeable I am and that I have so many ideas to take it to the next level. This isn't a success story because I'm at the very beginning of what I feel will be success in my career and its about to take off. I couldn't imagine just a few years ago being in the situation I'm in now. All that time and money spent on college could've gone to something so much better and useful.
It was peer pressure mostly. Having an Iranian father, you could imagine what I was pressured to do.
I still think about my first security course I took while still in college. That same teacher has been begging me to come teach for him. Refused of course but extremely humbled.
You make great points you always inspire me!
Some really great points were made in this video. I couldn't agree more with it. I fit the description of reasons not to go to college. I wasted 3+ years on college and learned nothing from it. because I was doing the wrong thing. I had no business being there. If you don't plan on being a doctor or something related, college is Incredibly stupid. If you're an entrepreneur at
heart (as much as that word is overused) then college will only slow you down.
And one more thing.... If what you're studying or are considering studying can be learned much faster without college, at your pace, then you'd only waste your time attending.
Thanks Patrick u opened my eyes. I have come to realised once the knowledge is there, the money will follow. Just wanna keep learning and getting more expulsions of the real world experiences
I agree 100% with everything you said.
I dropped out of College for the exact reasons you outlined. I realized it early on. I felt guilty about it even though I knew it to be a good decision.
Why? Because of the pressure of " you HAVE to go to college". Or else the world will end. Type of vibe.
Thank you for stating all this. With three young children I am examining their futures - Is college good for each of them?
... Probably not. And that's OK. There are other options to success.
More people need to hear this message.
I now run my own successful business.
Reality check to the fullest, thank you sir.
You got it. How are things on your end?
***** Great thank you for asking, Its been an a great move for me and been able to have the opportunity to get clear on life and what I'd like to make of it, Now its time to put my head down and continue to work and become a positive impact on the world , I look forward to making a name for my self , college was never part of my small success and failures it was all 100% me, and I feel that it comes down to us, we are fully responsible for the levels of success we want to achieve , utilizing all tools we are given both in school and in the real university of life, thank you for taking the time to provide us always with such mind opening messages we truly appreciate your time, P.S look out for Sacramento PHP as a top contender in 2016
I have mixed feelings about this. When I first came to University, I hated it. I thought it was useless, and coming into college I thought it wouldn’t teach me what I needed to know on how to run a business (I’m a business major). Although I almost dropped out I decided to stay because I had a full tuition scholarship and even had my rent paid for. But as I began networking I met people who were getting great jobs after college and it open my eyes to the opportunities that are available. I have seen people get six figure salaries right out of college. And for being 21 or 22 that is amazing. You always here the bad stories from people going to college but never the good ones. If you network and put in the work you can get amazing jobs.
I am 21 and I just graduated from college two weeks ago and will be starting my new full-time job as a Project Manager in June making $78k my first year. That is in the state of North Carolina which is very good for a new grad! There are so many good roles out there that people are not aware of and if you the right people I think it’s a great option.
P.S. I am a first generation Latino college grad!
YOU DEFINITELY GIVE AMAZING VALUE PATRICKKKK!!!! you're awesomeee
Amazing video Pat, deserves more views but regardless this channel will grow forsure! Just amazing.
I agree with the criteria outlined by Patrick on who should get a degree and those who should think carefully before pursuing a college education.
I have B.Sc. in Engineering and M.Sc. in Space Studies. But I can honestly say that the real education I got was from real world experiences.
I've lived in 5 countries, traveled to several others and I'm bilingual. I've also worked in some of the most challenging environments where I was forced to process complex information very quickly for a meaningful outcome. Many of my colleagues and supervisors also insist that I go back to school to get a Ph.D. because (1) it would allow me to lead exciting research programs and (2) it would increase my earning potential. I eventually decided against their recommendation because:
(1) The aggressive attitude I took toward life experiences put me in a position where I was promoted to Lead Scientist of a highly innovative project at NASA. I also established myself as a subject matter expert in multiple areas. In fact, I often get addressed as Dr. because of the level of expertise and reputation developed among my peers.
(2) When I quantitatively examined the earning power of a Ph.D., I realized it was a fallacy that it would increase my earning potential. This may have been true 20+ years ago, but not the case these days with such high cost of living and a broken education system. Under the most optimistic calculations, it would take me at least 15 years to financially break even. But realistically, it would be around 25 years... I'd be close to retirement by then!
Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying PhDs are worthless. Some positions in life require a doctorate (e.g. most tenure track professorships). In my case, it didn't make sense. But it is imperative that people carefully examine their career and financial objectives before spending years of their lives and thousands of dollars in a curriculum that may not get you where you want to be.
I also strongly agree with Patrick that the current education system is broken and the curriculum needs to be revised to develop the real-world skills.
Lealem Mulugeta I love your comment, thank you so much for sharing this!
I find it so surprising that I hear engineers saying they never used much of their knowledge gained in university when they started working, but rather the experience gained in the job itself schooled them far more. I think all engineering programms need serious revision! Thankfully I haven't heard doctors say that.
Congratulations on your success, I wish you lots more and all the best! :)
I'm completely undecided, I have all around hustle, strong work ethic, i'm completely non-competitive at things you know for fun and because I'm passionate about it but I am competitive so much at things that it is fueled by my passion and hardwork for what I am doing it's never solemnly just for the purpose of doing something. I ran a Minecraft server one time successfully got donation ranges but then it failed and the funny thing was is that every time I fail I either learn or win from it and it gives me the chance to restart and do it more intelligently than last time no time is ever wasted because it is a learning experience without that failure I wouldn't be in the position I am today and i wouldn't trade it for a million dollars. A person can wear a full on designer, name brand outfit and they're bank statements say otherwise (dress to impress) versus everyone 2 blue moons you'll catch me with my favorite Louis Vuitton belt and outfit on and I'm not to hard for myself to care what other people like and gravitate to. I save my money. Long story short, my classes were withdrawn this November 2015 and I am still exploring my ideas, opportunities, and passions for my current things I like and new things to come and i've channeled that energy to multiple things that part of the problem is with College you'll spend semesters of money to continue attending and still be undecided till peer pressure gets you and you choose something that you'll never put to work in the end result your criminology degree is still dusting meanwhile College got over on you and you owe them 400k or whatever hundred thousand figure debt your in till your 50 years old. Everyone was brought to a take a route, just not the same route as others. I can on about this all day but u get the point. I was directed here by my cousin who is self employed entrepreneur and business owner and will show me the ropes of this path. Thanks David. I knew from highschool, and all throughout my years people telling me to APPLY APPLY APPLY make sure u get accepted go get ur degree apply to college let alone they put in all these years and your working a job - to pay off your college debt. Never working in the field you so intended. College makes money on you, NOT the other way around
Join the Air Force. They have a Community College, and you can earn a degree in Computer Science very quickly.
Agree 100% about teaching the biggest problems we have in society.
That’s why as an adjunct business professor I can successfully articulate what it takes to manage a business and what it takes to manage money and budgets to pay your bills and spend wisely.
Love this idea! I consider myself as an adjunct business professional professor who teaches business courses based on education & experience.
I agree, Army does not focus on education. Thanks for the videos, you're doing good things helping up the lower class more up.
still in college, (disabled vet) with a family.