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  • In a journey to Centennial Park, Arizona, Lisa Ling visits one of America's most closed-off communities and is granted unprecedented access to a group of modern-day men and women who are living in plural marriages -- and professing to love it. (Original Air Date: October 23, 2011 ) Watch more of Our America with Lisa Ling on the WatchOWN app. For more information visit www.oprah.com/app/our-america...
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  • @robinnewman4018
    @robinnewman4018 Месяц назад +233

    Why wouldn’t a journalist ask how a man supports three wives and 15 kids on a teacher’s salary?

    • @dianehansma1725
      @dianehansma1725 Месяц назад

      Exactly! As long as government isn’t giving them hardworking taxpayers money each month for child benefits! Makes you wonder…laws don’t matter that’s for sure! Unreal! Muslims are doing the same! Lawlessness!

    • @lindataylor8302
      @lindataylor8302 Месяц назад +54

      Welfare and food stamps

    • @lindataylor8302
      @lindataylor8302 Месяц назад +41

      Your tax dollars at work 😊

    • @lindadenneypu6315
      @lindadenneypu6315 Месяц назад +14

      That's what I wondered as well

    • @xPat99
      @xPat99 Месяц назад +10

      Exactly what I thought: how?!

  • @Mpirefilms
    @Mpirefilms 2 месяца назад +474

    Lisa Ling is a fantastic journalist. Her empathy and understanding is so peaceful.

    • @skumsters2323
      @skumsters2323 2 месяца назад +4

      to bad she works for cruella

    • @tracywest2065
      @tracywest2065 Месяц назад +9

      I've been watching her since she did school news as a kid! She's fantastic

    • @debbiebasche5337
      @debbiebasche5337 Месяц назад +6

      She is one of the greats...very personable....

    • @sarahoop5859
      @sarahoop5859 Месяц назад +1

      Agreed ❤

    • @wildewildestrawberries
      @wildewildestrawberries Месяц назад +1

      ​@skumsters2323 the show actually left OWN after a few seasons and went to CNN. So cruella was only it's first broadcaster.

  • @OfGodandDairyCows
    @OfGodandDairyCows 2 месяца назад +407

    Id rather spend my life single than share my husband with another woman.

    • @itsinesantonio
      @itsinesantonio Месяц назад +23

      Me too!!!

    • @ellerichardson1094
      @ellerichardson1094 Месяц назад

      Same 😂 I don't even want one of these sickos so y'all can have them ALLLLLLL 🤢 this whole life an the LDS is just sick once you look into it.

    • @farnazg9057
      @farnazg9057 Месяц назад +8

      Not just one other woman, probably 6 other!

    • @mamadoom9724
      @mamadoom9724 Месяц назад +6

      The thought of my husband with another woman makes me absolutely crazy. No way I’d ever share him.

    • @richardprice5978
      @richardprice5978 Месяц назад

      Id rather spend my life single than share my husband with another woman.
      im not particularly part of there religious ( the one's that follows B-young's 1880's/racism im not for but it's still under freedom of religion and church and government separation etc, kkl isn't protected by church and or there acting-out/violence ) branches/sect, my family is atheists and Christians and X-Jewish+atheist's, but there valid church just as santin-church something i might not like but at long as there not exploiting others and or kill/sacrifices-mess etc aka crime
      as far as being single and ( net worth under 5k usd and or temp-job@7usd-hourly and or vary close to homeless etc ) poverty's vs have 2 bi and or religious-Christian/atheist wife's and or sharing SO and millionaire-networth and dealing with ( 1-4~ ) kids, id rather not being ( partially pushed my family members away, partiality to her not doing anything for her Irish and or letting her physical-health go ) cursing myself again , so be careful what you ask for it might happen
      either way there correct/video/FLDS-release a socialite/woman-memberships about linked licensing 5max as a compromises and governmental job isn't to tell me how to practice my marriage/relationship or religion/weddings 👰👰🎩 but it's there as a instausion/government-license for making sure that HIPPA/heath-care and final-will and for housing+employment equality etc enforcement etc

  • @peonypower7094
    @peonypower7094 2 месяца назад +648

    Amazing how easy it is to make people believe a variety of absolutely crazy things.

    • @user-qc1ur3zk1o
      @user-qc1ur3zk1o 2 месяца назад

      So rah rah rah gay gay gay is the only thing that is acceptable? What does gay produce?

    • @pamwiththebadhair5118
      @pamwiththebadhair5118 2 месяца назад +12

      Us or them?

    • @FitzyS
      @FitzyS 2 месяца назад +32

      So true!! I’m often amazed at how easy it is to get people to believe in nonsense 😂

    • @Zu-Noma
      @Zu-Noma 2 месяца назад +54

      I find the concept of religion to be a crazy concept altogether🙃but to each their own.

    • @carter_1
      @carter_1 2 месяца назад +9

      It takes the first group wanting to be, just that, a group (with similar wants in life). Pre TV, internet, minds really being able to connect info... and Manifest Destiny on the minds, they wanted to believe & belong.
      Birthing soo many kids definitely helped it grow in numbers.
      (oh and men allowed to have multiple wives & older tired wives not wanting to "bedroom" all of the time) in an age when women couldn't say No!

  • @user-tn9qs3nh2e
    @user-tn9qs3nh2e 2 месяца назад +421

    They say we as woman make all the choices, but no one’s talking about how they’ve been brainwashed since birth… so really what choices are they making

    • @AJ-ps2bw
      @AJ-ps2bw Месяц назад +17

      100%!!

    • @kygal
      @kygal Месяц назад +15

      🎯

    • @itsinesantonio
      @itsinesantonio Месяц назад +10

      Sad life

    • @sharontarin1310
      @sharontarin1310 Месяц назад +22

      And the children are not benefitting. Too may children. You can't give them enough attention and can they afford them all? It's sad.

    • @saythankyou111
      @saythankyou111 Месяц назад

      And the daughters growing up knowing their going to marry an old man……devastating and selfish old pervs 🇺🇸

  • @brianal7143
    @brianal7143 2 месяца назад +302

    She wanted to marry her 6th grade math teacher...how disturbing

    • @karenbeee4568
      @karenbeee4568 2 месяца назад +3

      If she were next to me at a party I’d think she was adorable!

    • @peaches79
      @peaches79 2 месяца назад

      She was groomed no doubt

    • @Hbk-gc7st
      @Hbk-gc7st 2 месяца назад +17

      She gad a school crush on a teacher. That is normal in itself, but I think she misinterpreted those feelings.

    • @roseyposey893
      @roseyposey893 2 месяца назад +9

      @@karenbeee4568 what?

    • @louisecampbell2628
      @louisecampbell2628 Месяц назад

      YEP!!

  • @sarac3325
    @sarac3325 2 месяца назад +251

    Lisa: "....you were actually relieved to have another woman take care of those needs.....I get that". 😂

    • @kimmickal
      @kimmickal 2 месяца назад +29

      One woman can't take care of one man's needs?! Seriously?! I am fortunate that I don't understand.

    • @joeyree22
      @joeyree22 2 месяца назад +3

      Me too!

    • @AllThingsSoul
      @AllThingsSoul 2 месяца назад +21

      @@kimmickal Me three! Tells me he's a bad lover and she has no idea how to teach him to be better.

    • @patricksobb5762
      @patricksobb5762 Месяц назад

      Dude must be a dud under the sheets

    • @user-sb7xs5he1i
      @user-sb7xs5he1i Месяц назад +3

      But then the new wife instead of help added another six kid to the pack.

  • @livingdreadgurl8252
    @livingdreadgurl8252 2 месяца назад +306

    I don’t think Americans can’t accept polygamy, it’s the underage children/brides we took issue with.

    • @user-fn2cs9dj1l
      @user-fn2cs9dj1l Месяц назад

      In NYS until last year a man could marry his under age lover who he had abused as a child basically. If charges of pedophilia were issued the much older man could marry a girl 15 and up to avoid prison. Know that.

    • @huntnusa659
      @huntnusa659 Месяц назад +5

      I dont think thats an issue. Dont they have shows on TLC called seeking sister wife? I think 20% of America already accepts it sista.

    • @stillhasitall2010
      @stillhasitall2010 Месяц назад +10

      @@huntnusa659 …..reading is fundamental.

    • @huntnusa659
      @huntnusa659 Месяц назад +1

      @@stillhasitall2010 these groups don’t struggle with that anymore, sweetheart

    • @sarahbell3038
      @sarahbell3038 Месяц назад +10

      That's true. Polygamous couples are becoming more common, who cares what people do, BUT don't hurt kids

  • @user-ru6yi6wj9x
    @user-ru6yi6wj9x 2 месяца назад +169

    Wait, this guy is a teacher but at age 18 he drew a picture that looks like a two year old drew it?!
    Love Lisa Ling and her informative, compassionate and authentic documentaries ❤

    • @itsinesantonio
      @itsinesantonio Месяц назад +4

      Hahahahaha 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    • @user-fn2cs9dj1l
      @user-fn2cs9dj1l Месяц назад +5

      Way to diminish another human being. So a drawing made up your mind to what judge?

    • @LadyWolfeRyder
      @LadyWolfeRyder Месяц назад +7

      SO? Not everyone is an artist. Why does it matter?

    • @catherinethemba
      @catherinethemba Месяц назад +9

      ​@@user-fn2cs9dj1l it shows their education system is deeply flawed. It's a pre school drawing.

    • @oldonetwoable
      @oldonetwoable Месяц назад +14

      He gives me the creeps.

  • @sandygrant5956
    @sandygrant5956 2 месяца назад +113

    OMG...read the Scripture, in heaven there will be no marrying ...Matthew 22:30 for in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage!!
    Lord have mercy.

    • @Agforever12
      @Agforever12 27 дней назад +5

      A lot of the Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible

    • @rodagrail3231
      @rodagrail3231 25 дней назад

      True words

  • @Thedrisin155
    @Thedrisin155 2 месяца назад +241

    Give these women more options. They think this is the only way to live because it’s all they’ve ever known. Do they really have choices?

    • @harley8680
      @harley8680 2 месяца назад +6

      Did you listen to them and even watch this the whole way through!?

    • @meredithbesabe1571
      @meredithbesabe1571 2 месяца назад

      ​@@harley8680 they're literally brainwashed from birth to believe this is the only good way to live. Do you not understand how cults rob their members of agency? Child marriage and rape are rampant in these communities.

    • @huntnusa659
      @huntnusa659 2 месяца назад

      Not only do they have choices, but they have organizations reaching out and trying to get them to leave. They are not ignorant. They are extremely smart women. They know what they can do with their lives inside the community and outside. They choose family. They choose peace. Would it be better if they were some of the women in the big cities who are single mothers with two or three baby daddies and getting by with the government being the big daddy and supporting their lives? Is that what you would see is better? Because that is becoming the new normal in regular monogamous society. Multiple partners multiple baby daddies and multiple poverty levels. I would say these people have something going very very good.

    • @user-fn2cs9dj1l
      @user-fn2cs9dj1l Месяц назад +6

      And for those children raised in strict Catholic families? Catholic schools, catholic social clubs, Catholic friends only.

    • @LadyWolfeRyder
      @LadyWolfeRyder Месяц назад +1

      Did you have an issue comprehending this?

  • @Stephanie-kk4oh
    @Stephanie-kk4oh 2 месяца назад +145

    The second guy literally made the hair on my arms stand up🫣😬😵‍💫

  • @Ashley-Renae1989
    @Ashley-Renae1989 2 месяца назад +190

    She says the problems started over a loaf of bread,
    but their problems actually started way before that. Bread isn't even the biggest issue here. 🥺💔♀️💪

    • @Rebecca-hc5ju
      @Rebecca-hc5ju 2 месяца назад +10

      💯💯

    • @jenniemorris4520
      @jenniemorris4520 Месяц назад +7

      Absolutely, and I don't suppose her decision to go back had anything to do with the fact that she was about to give birth to another child? Perhaps her pregnancy was part of the issue.

    • @Agforever12
      @Agforever12 27 дней назад +1

      That was probably the last straw, the slightest thing can set an already angry person over the edge

    • @LX-kt90rx
      @LX-kt90rx 4 дня назад

      Yeah, 2nd wife was jealous that he married again, and she’s not “allowed” to be, so she attacks 3rd over a loaf of bread. Polygamy is inherently abusive, and these women are brainwashed to believe they can’t get to heaven if they don’t participate in this. His first wife seems like she may be ace/aro, so was relieved when the 2nd could take on the physical “responsibilities” of marriage. She seemed she didn’t even care about the other two being there. The husband was creepy. The whole thing is dysfunctional, at best.

  • @KrispyChanges
    @KrispyChanges 2 месяца назад +50

    This is the way God lives. Girl someone lied to you. Don’t blame your dysfunctional mess on God.

  • @mariacasella6474
    @mariacasella6474 2 месяца назад +72

    She said “this is the way God lives?!?!wow these women and kids are brainwashed

    • @Jenny-ls7hf
      @Jenny-ls7hf 11 дней назад

      Right! It doesn’t even make common sense, because this lifestyle would leave tons of single men! The world is half and half, we should be ONE TO ONE

    • @LBM01028
      @LBM01028 День назад

      How do you know you’re not the one who’s brainwashed?

  • @MistymeQueen
    @MistymeQueen 2 месяца назад +313

    These men are so creepy to me.

    • @mailman63155
      @mailman63155 Месяц назад +5

      And outside modern women who sleep around and have three or four baby daddies who let their kids live on welfare?

    • @xxJodelleFerlandxx
      @xxJodelleFerlandxx Месяц назад +12

      When the guy said that he would see an attractive woman but would have to wait a while to find out if he could marry her - that very much suggests he's ogling literal children. So gross.

    • @hippy9309
      @hippy9309 Месяц назад

      ​@@mailman63155 these people ALL receive some form of public assistance. Be it food stamps, medicaid, cash assistance or all of the above. These women all desperately need mental health.

    • @saltycat662
      @saltycat662 Месяц назад +8

      @@mailman63155 And no blame on these 4 baby daddies? They helped create that baby too you.

    • @LineOfThy
      @LineOfThy 27 дней назад +1

      @@xxJodelleFerlandxx what? how did you reach that conclusion?

  • @leilagross1060
    @leilagross1060 2 месяца назад +232

    Ok then if the man can marry multiple women, then conversely, a woman should be allowed to marry 3 men 😊

    • @cyndieperez6267
      @cyndieperez6267 2 месяца назад +55

      I'd love to see this with the rolls reversed ! One man rarely pleases a woman . How Can he possibly properly please multiple lol

    • @POLYLIVING
      @POLYLIVING 2 месяца назад +17

      Polyandry😉

    • @LilyBecca
      @LilyBecca 2 месяца назад +41

      I'm like to see this, too. I know I could not handle multiple husbands. They are so naggy and needy. It would drive me crazy. Men say women are nags, but in my experience, it's the opposite!

    • @teresawilson3893
      @teresawilson3893 2 месяца назад +7

      The whole point is that the more wives the more kids! It really doesn’t work the other way!

    • @user-nf4nf8dd3s
      @user-nf4nf8dd3s 2 месяца назад +32

      How can one man afford to feed all these kids and wives?

  • @WineSaladFrenchFries
    @WineSaladFrenchFries 2 месяца назад +176

    The second guy with 15 kids is 42?!?! 😱 I'm 39 and he looks like he could be my dad!

    • @juliecurtis5122
      @juliecurtis5122 2 месяца назад +10

      I think he's gonna wait a long time to get wife num 4, not confident he's gonna reach his goal of 8....lol

    • @lashandaallenredmon2109
      @lashandaallenredmon2109 2 месяца назад +17

      They all look old! 😩🫣

    • @kelsyhainline
      @kelsyhainline 2 месяца назад +6

      I was thinking the same thing. He’s 6 years older than me. Then I start thinking, am I just blind to how old I look? Because I don’t think I look that old. Lol

    • @Flourish_today
      @Flourish_today 2 месяца назад +18

      The stress of having so many kids is not easy.

    • @happylife7542
      @happylife7542 2 месяца назад +5

      Lmao I am a 42 year old woman. All I have to say is that hell noooooooo

  • @kimberlyterenzoni8451
    @kimberlyterenzoni8451 Месяц назад +118

    I was not comfortable with Michael. Seems his first wife, Rose, is just so sad.

    • @louise9422
      @louise9422 Месяц назад +21

      She said monogamy was too hard because she 'needed help'. To take care of *his* needs. I thought she meant taking care of kids, but she meant *his* fysical needs. How afwul if a wife has to say this. His needs are the only thing that counts.

    • @gloriaoppen8412
      @gloriaoppen8412 Месяц назад +11

      I agree! How about the needs of a woman? Michael's first wife was probably tired of him. Although I don't agree with this lifestyle, women should be equal and not less. If men are allowed to have many wives, then women should be allowed to take on other husbands. How do they support such large families? Are they living off of the government?

  • @robinh7267
    @robinh7267 2 месяца назад +310

    This is the way God lives? This is what happens when men reduce God to his level 😢

    • @user-qc1ur3zk1o
      @user-qc1ur3zk1o 2 месяца назад +2

      You have never read the bible and it shows.

    • @anlondubh
      @anlondubh 2 месяца назад +11

      Got that right

    • @anlondubh
      @anlondubh 2 месяца назад +1

      @@user-qc1ur3zk1o- the bible is an ancient text full of fictional stories and also told men to stone a woman to death when another man looked at her. Get real, you are living a lie.

    • @jackychela4638
      @jackychela4638 2 месяца назад +5

      I know right 🤷the hell!

    • @joeyree22
      @joeyree22 2 месяца назад +17

      This feels so delusional! You can live a moral, respectful, spiritual and full life without extreme or in fact any religious beliefs.

  • @aprilingram1655
    @aprilingram1655 2 месяца назад +340

    Don’t put God in this mess!!

    • @ideenfee
      @ideenfee 2 месяца назад +13

      This should be the top comment!❤

    • @rachelhutchinson8321
      @rachelhutchinson8321 2 месяца назад +7

      Haha I love it! 👍🏼

    • @Raesbudgetingworld
      @Raesbudgetingworld 2 месяца назад +10

      How can you not put God into this when the bible talks about men having multiple wife. David had multiple wives. Esau had multiple wives. To be honest MONOGAMY is a new concept not polygamy.

    • @Cheryl_Lynn1
      @Cheryl_Lynn1 2 месяца назад +19

      God changed that. He shall not multiply wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away . . . (NASB) Deuteronomy 17:17. It's also a commandment. Read the new Testament too. Just because the Bible records an event that occurred does not mean that God approves of it. ​@Raesbudgetingworld

    • @samowens9603
      @samowens9603 2 месяца назад +6

      I guess they can as long as they specifically say God of Joseph Smith and their congregation.

  • @staciehahn9175
    @staciehahn9175 2 месяца назад +43

    I love Lisa Ling! She can take an awkward conversation and make it seem totally comfortable. The husband talk when she says “I get that” 😂😂😂

  • @karrieclinton7245
    @karrieclinton7245 2 месяца назад +168

    I would love to see an update on all these women and families. I wonder how they’re doing today

    • @pinoyboysandme7251
      @pinoyboysandme7251 2 месяца назад +8

      I agree

    • @Isisda
      @Isisda 2 месяца назад +20

      That’s the only thing wrong with a lot of these reports they do not ever give us an update five or 10 years after the fact

    • @debraspegnetto6904
      @debraspegnetto6904 25 дней назад +2

      I’d like to see a update also , these women probably have 800 kids by now 😜

  • @Alesya81
    @Alesya81 2 месяца назад +40

    I am trying to understand..: but just can’t… the idea of my man making love to another woman under the same room is way too painful…

  • @stillhasitall2010
    @stillhasitall2010 Месяц назад +34

    I don’t believe for a minute that the 6th grade story went down like that.

  • @beautifulplaces2703
    @beautifulplaces2703 Месяц назад +27

    That creepy Math teacher guy wants to become a god by marrying a lot of wives and having a lot of kids but he doesn't seem to be concerned if he can provide love to his kids.

  • @JulieReade
    @JulieReade Месяц назад +20

    Lisa Ling, you are a talented journalist! Most documentaries such as this have an obvious distaste for people’s beliefs and lifestyles. You weighed the pros and cons and left the viewers to think for themselves. Bravo to you for showing the world what real journalism is!!

  • @melstarr1864
    @melstarr1864 2 месяца назад +62

    Even though they are saying that the girls ultimately make the choice on who they will marry, it seems that they have no other choices beyond marrying and having lots of children. Would they have choices to, say, be doctors?

    • @jenfoster128
      @jenfoster128 2 месяца назад +7

      Yes Theresa Michael's third wife waited to marry him until after she got her degree in Education. They also have their own nurse practitioners. One could go to medical school but most don't want to just like most regular people don't want to because it is such a long, hard road.

    • @melissal3383
      @melissal3383 Месяц назад +10

      Plus many use state programs so they can FEED their numerous children. Annoying… not worth my peace of mind but as a group they are costing the state more than they are helping the state… seems rather selfish to me

    • @melstarr1864
      @melstarr1864 Месяц назад +6

      @@melissal3383 I was wondering how they could feed all those kids.

  • @mandycortese9293
    @mandycortese9293 2 месяца назад +102

    I wish Lisa would have asked about the fact that there would be an abundance of unmarried men… because the math ain’t mathing.

    • @baileyb123bb
      @baileyb123bb 2 месяца назад

      They find reasons to excommunicate extra young men. Look into the lost boys of flds

    • @matthewtuttle1272
      @matthewtuttle1272 2 месяца назад +23

      You are right. In my heart, I believe that many young men are encouraged to leave the park. Also, they might be thrown out for the slightest infraction of their rules. You didn't see many young men in this film.

    • @chernille4916
      @chernille4916 Месяц назад +3

      @@matthewtuttle1272I think so too

    • @benahinkur7132
      @benahinkur7132 Месяц назад +12

      @@matthewtuttle1272 They are. A lot of them end up homeless, commit suicide or just struggle to survive. It's sad.

    • @latinaalma1947
      @latinaalma1947 Месяц назад +6

      They get PUSHED out there have been many interviews with them cruel...thee people are not really family oriented if they do such a terrible thing....there are many victims and those young men push out make up many of them.

  • @smrkc
    @smrkc 2 месяца назад +60

    As a Euorepean I found this very disturbing

    • @benahinkur7132
      @benahinkur7132 Месяц назад +3

      It's like a twilight zone if you ever spend time around them lol

    • @covertLLC
      @covertLLC Месяц назад

      As an American I find this disturbing.. All Americans are not understanding of this religion. It has nothing to do with what's written in the actual Bible, the book of mormon is a whole different thing and has nothing at all to do with the actual Bible. Plz don't think all Americans are a part of this religion. The majority of Americans are only just learning about these people with the capture of Warren Jeffs..

    • @summerlake356
      @summerlake356 Месяц назад +1

      This is the kind of thing that makes the US fascinating. Polygamists in the middle of a red desert... We don't have that. The nagative side to the US is all the wars and provocations they start on our borders, creating problems for us...

    • @elentorress5189
      @elentorress5189 Месяц назад +7

      As a European i don't find polygamy disturbing, but red lights street in Europe, and how normalized it is.

    • @caitroseco6752
      @caitroseco6752 Месяц назад +3

      As an American I also find this disturbing. Regular Americans don’t interact with polygamists. They’re concentrated in little pockets of the U.S. and don’t mix with the rest of us

  • @asian1kong
    @asian1kong 2 месяца назад +78

    Man they got these girls trained

    • @catherinethemba
      @catherinethemba Месяц назад +5

      Yup. The males are free and have plenty woman.

  • @jc7453
    @jc7453 2 месяца назад +40

    Wrong information here.
    It is NOT an illegal practice to have lots of 'wives' because none of them are legally married!!
    They just do simple religious ceremonies that are never recognised by the state.
    It's not marriage as we know it.

    • @brittanylacroix4432
      @brittanylacroix4432 4 дня назад

      Maury povich is well known entertainment about many men with children by multiple women, without a legal marriage. Take the religion out how is it different?

  • @here2laff397
    @here2laff397 2 месяца назад +177

    “This is how I believe God lives” LMFAO DELULU

    • @Peac198
      @Peac198 2 месяца назад +7

      😂😂😂😂 crazy thing is how the first prophecy the Joseph guy got was plural marriage.

    • @brianal7143
      @brianal7143 2 месяца назад +10

      @@Peac198it is pretty convenient right 😂

    • @TruthDefender-oq4gt
      @TruthDefender-oq4gt 2 месяца назад +1

      No 19:00

    • @lisasmart14
      @lisasmart14 2 месяца назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @shannonleigh72
    @shannonleigh72 Месяц назад +53

    Lisa needs to do an updated version of this. Since 2011 things have really changed in "The Creek". Centennial Park, Colorado City and Hildale are very different in 2024.

    • @amandakidwell1740
      @amandakidwell1740 Месяц назад

      How so? It been a few since we heard about them....

    • @larissatom6910
      @larissatom6910 Месяц назад +1

      @@amandakidwell1740the leader of the Colorado city and Hilldale group, Warren Jeffs, is in prison for life but still placing demands on his followers. This group seems less fundamental but I don’t know how what happened to Jeffs has impacted them, if at all.

    • @mariejiminez1733
      @mariejiminez1733 Месяц назад

      ​@@larissatom6910ths is true friends they are collaspibg within their community

    • @workoutmom2b1g
      @workoutmom2b1g 26 дней назад +1

      I don’t think Centennial Park followed Warren Jeffs. Just Hildale and Colorado City. Centennial Park is an offshoot.

  • @nanwright2366
    @nanwright2366 Месяц назад +27

    Lisa Ling = QUALITY reporting

    • @massiahgrom
      @massiahgrom 4 дня назад

      Outstanding. She's the best .

  • @ninez2698
    @ninez2698 Месяц назад +26

    For God’s sake, you can’t even share a loaf of bread with your sister wife when you share your husband with her?!☹️

    • @barbaraminton4522
      @barbaraminton4522 Месяц назад +8

      They're programmed not to complain or show jealousy in marriage so you can see little things erupt into big things when you can't have an honest dialog about what really matters

    • @lovelyletter7460
      @lovelyletter7460 23 дня назад +1

      Look at the husband they have! I’d be more angry about the loaf of bread too! 😂

  • @cathybassett6432
    @cathybassett6432 Месяц назад +27

    What does she mean when she says she believes God lives this way? God has many wives?!! I wasn't aware God had any wives.

    • @sharontarin1310
      @sharontarin1310 Месяц назад +2

      It feels blasphemous to me.

    • @NHarts3
      @NHarts3 12 дней назад

      Maybe they mean Zeus

  • @AnaFerreira-kt8to
    @AnaFerreira-kt8to Месяц назад +20

    Of course she's relieved that her husband has a new wife. After she gave him 6 children and is exausted.

  • @yogini3274
    @yogini3274 Месяц назад +26

    How do these men provide for so many wives and children? Especially knowing what school teachers make.

    • @annconforti9294
      @annconforti9294 Месяц назад

      They don't. Most of the women are on welfare! They support the men.

    • @barbaraminton4522
      @barbaraminton4522 Месяц назад +11

      Since subsequent wives are not legal, they apply for public assistance as single moms. So we the taxpayers are probably supporting these huge families!

    • @GD-oz7uy
      @GD-oz7uy Месяц назад +2

      Welfare of course.

    • @kristinstocking3548
      @kristinstocking3548 12 дней назад

      The term for in utah is bleeding the beast. Yes they actually have words for it. Talk about welfare moms

  • @catherinecox8921
    @catherinecox8921 Месяц назад +9

    How are all these large families financially supported? These homes are large with many mouths to feed and dad is a school teacher? That’s all I kept thinking throughout this documentary.

    • @kristinstocking3548
      @kristinstocking3548 12 дней назад

      They get government aid. Because the women are technically single mothers. They are applicable for medicaid and food stamps, all that stuff. They call it bleeding the beast. Talk about entitled

  • @jeannerountree952
    @jeannerountree952 Месяц назад +24

    michael’s talking in a Michelle Dugger voice. He’s taking time to make sure of his words and he’s very soft with them. I don’t believe he talks like that every day .

  • @ariavie5413
    @ariavie5413 2 месяца назад +35

    This is so sick that they believe this 🤢

    • @JanetMariaGibson
      @JanetMariaGibson 2 месяца назад +3

      at the end of the day its religion hey/ cult & what they have been raised to believe all their life.

    • @Deicide-xi5eo
      @Deicide-xi5eo Месяц назад

      That's religion for ya.

  • @carmelgraham-williams1338
    @carmelgraham-williams1338 Месяц назад +5

    I've read a book about a woman who was forced to marry who lived in this community. Just because it looks pretty on the outside does not mean women are not subjugated and abused.

  • @Cynthia2v
    @Cynthia2v Месяц назад +21

    Not all women in the early LDS church believed that a husband could have multiple wives. One of my ancestors left Utah, her husband and home with one child because she didn’t believe Joseph Smith’s doctrine on polygamy.

  • @Erinlou11
    @Erinlou11 2 месяца назад +60

    At 18 minutes is when I really was like whatttt theeee F?????? She was 12 and he was her math teacher I literally feel sick

    • @randomthrowaway6669
      @randomthrowaway6669 2 месяца назад +8

      It's not outrageous for pubescent students to develop crushes on or be attracted to their teachers or other adults in their world. It's when the adults don't keep healthy boundaries up around their young infatuated charges that problems develop.

    • @Erinlou11
      @Erinlou11 2 месяца назад +6

      @@randomthrowaway6669 I totally agree it was 1000% his fault it was not her fault whatsoever. She was literally an innocent child but hearing her justify it just blew my mind.

    • @Hbk-gc7st
      @Hbk-gc7st 2 месяца назад +5

      Eh...what did you hear that I didn't hear?
      She had a crush, nothibg happened, then when she was nineteen, she told her dad and the elders that she felt that she had to be his wife.
      Nothing happened before that.
      Not my cup of tea, but you act like they started a relationship when she was twelve.

    • @tracysage7
      @tracysage7 7 дней назад

      If I can throw something into the mix. That wife claimed at the end that she would emulate Jesus to work through her issues with the third wife. But she was receiving impure thoughts of her math teacher at the age of 12? It doesn't make sense does it?

  • @katiempojer
    @katiempojer Месяц назад +10

    Lisa Ling is a fantastic journalist the topics that she covers are amazing, diverse in a non judgemental style

  • @1927su
    @1927su Месяц назад +14

    Lisa Ling sets the example of how to get along with your fellow Countrymen no matter how different they may be. Heres to Lisa!

  • @jaynejohnson578
    @jaynejohnson578 Месяц назад +7

    Since this is from 2011, it would be interesting to see how they're doing now.

  • @user-yf5bq3xj6e
    @user-yf5bq3xj6e 2 месяца назад +146

    Thou shall not commit adultery. When he sleeps with any woman other than wife number one, they are adulterers. Christ never married.

    • @anlondubh
      @anlondubh 2 месяца назад +8

      right!

    • @user-qc1ur3zk1o
      @user-qc1ur3zk1o 2 месяца назад +2

      Jesus never existed!

    • @user-yf5bq3xj6e
      @user-yf5bq3xj6e 2 месяца назад +5

      @@user-qc1ur3zk1o even the polygamist spoke of Jesus Christ and only through him can we enter the kingdom of heaven.

    • @user-pq2nv7lt8n
      @user-pq2nv7lt8n 2 месяца назад +8

      @@user-qc1ur3zk1o yes He did.

    • @FitzyS
      @FitzyS 2 месяца назад

      @@user-yf5bq3xj6ejust say you’re in a cult and go

  • @kellyarnette4897
    @kellyarnette4897 Месяц назад +9

    Ask Kody Brown and his family how this worked out for them.

  • @stillhasitall2010
    @stillhasitall2010 Месяц назад +12

    Each wife should have her own home.

  • @missyb15
    @missyb15 19 дней назад +5

    I'd love an update of this story. Michael is so creepy.

  • @claudiacarrera9183
    @claudiacarrera9183 Месяц назад +13

    Uh here we go, 12 she already knew Michael was going to be her husband. That is a cycle of abuse.

  • @dragana2245
    @dragana2245 Месяц назад +21

    With their beliefs they are closer to Islam than to Christianity.

    • @pragawa
      @pragawa 5 дней назад

      My thoughts exactly!

  • @ianandrews6890
    @ianandrews6890 Месяц назад +9

    What happens to the "leftover men" in this community ?

  • @aliealieee
    @aliealieee 2 месяца назад +22

    god i miss this show so much. lisa ling is amazing

  • @nancyadams9228
    @nancyadams9228 Месяц назад +2

    Documentary journalism that is well produced and sincere.

  • @Anezandyambo
    @Anezandyambo Месяц назад +29

    It's incredibly sad how people use God's name to justify immorality, polygamy is regarded as sinful in the Bible.

  • @meoct-ow7tu
    @meoct-ow7tu 2 месяца назад +13

    Wouldn't there be a lot of unmarried men since many of the ladies are married to a single men in the community?? Where do they get the money to support all this kids??

    • @effieborchert985
      @effieborchert985 2 месяца назад +2

      Look up the "Sons of Perdition."

    • @effieborchert985
      @effieborchert985 2 месяца назад +9

      And to answer your second question, - the other wives get state aid since they are considered single mothers.

    • @ewaj.6260
      @ewaj.6260 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@effieborchert985that's meant tax paying people like us

  • @Monkeybear582
    @Monkeybear582 2 месяца назад +16

    Firstable God made one men and one women to be one flesh. But through the Bible history God children got rebellious so men had more than one wife. So this folks are being rebellious with God.

  • @luluaroha7789
    @luluaroha7789 Месяц назад +10

    Its always the guy has lots of wives not the other way round. Where a woman has lots of husbands ? I wonder why ?

  • @benahinkur7132
    @benahinkur7132 Месяц назад +6

    The mental gymnastics these people do is insane. It's a way of life for them. It's not easy to convince them otherwise.

  • @salzburg18
    @salzburg18 Месяц назад +17

    Michael's artistic skills are spectacular 😂

  • @robinanna5531
    @robinanna5531 2 месяца назад +25

    What about the lost boys.

    • @amandabillingsley9436
      @amandabillingsley9436 29 дней назад

      Those are from the FLDS and it’s terrible, however this is not FLDS, different sect. Still weird.

    • @tracygrist9550
      @tracygrist9550 12 дней назад

      I have met many lost boys. It is so sad

  • @Deicide-xi5eo
    @Deicide-xi5eo Месяц назад +9

    What consent8ng adults do is one thing, but when there are children involved I'd think it would mess with thier heads.

  • @huntnusa659
    @huntnusa659 2 месяца назад +7

    Very well done journalism. Good people just trying to love and live and love.

  • @samanthal4579
    @samanthal4579 2 месяца назад +13

    This is the way god lives? Amazing how people makeup their own believe and people actually believe it. Thinking it’s true.

  • @user-bz6wt9sj9p
    @user-bz6wt9sj9p Месяц назад +6

    Can't help it but I find all those guys really creepy, no matter which documentary I watch (not that many...), I am always wondering how on earth could anybody want to be with this guy?

  • @user-mi3mt2di2i
    @user-mi3mt2di2i 2 месяца назад +14

    How sad for the children

  • @uigagisa6286
    @uigagisa6286 Месяц назад +10

    These people are brainwashed, for real....

  • @sabrinabyrd5826
    @sabrinabyrd5826 Месяц назад +9

    The little girls basketball team 🥲 hats off to the coach for pushing for this opportunity for them and encouraging confidence within them, so beautiful to see ❤

  • @Musiccompletesmex3
    @Musiccompletesmex3 2 месяца назад +11

    So only the first wife has an actual marriage license and the rest is just spiritual?? Is that how it worksv

    • @StarSurvivor1585
      @StarSurvivor1585 Месяц назад

      Yes. The rest get welfare benefits bc they are single women since Bigomy is against the law

    • @g.flesch9731
      @g.flesch9731 Месяц назад +2

      Yes. One legal marriage. The other wives have a "spiritual marriage".

  • @calliecraft5780
    @calliecraft5780 2 месяца назад +14

    As long as its consenting adults... Who cares. Everyone lives and believes differently.

    • @kygal
      @kygal Месяц назад +5

      I’m usually along those lines of belief, but my thing is them having SOOOO many children. Most of the time the can’t afford that many and it ends up being a pretty substantial burden on the state. I agree that adults can do whatever they want. I just don’t think they should be having that many kids.

    • @elenakissin9973
      @elenakissin9973 Месяц назад +2

      @@kygal and WE are feeding these kids and wives!

    • @deekorbel5259
      @deekorbel5259 Месяц назад

      I agree as long as the parents are financially responsible for themselves and all those children and everyone is healthy and happy (as one can be) I don't have a problem with it. If the families are relying on public assistance for their lifestyle I have a problem it. I'm not speaking of all polygamists but the majority of the families I've seen on TV/videos seem to hold the US government as "the enemy" and taxes and laws do not apply to them.

  • @gailbarton3799
    @gailbarton3799 Месяц назад

    Thanks Lisa, you are a incredible journalist!!

  • @tammicami
    @tammicami 2 месяца назад +9

    Lisa Ling you are awesome!

  • @Ashley-Renae1989
    @Ashley-Renae1989 2 месяца назад +32

    I've got a boyfriend and a beautiful dog. They're enough work as it is. I've decided that I don't want kids, nor do I ever want kids. I feel like I'm making the most wise and mature choice that I possibly can, and I absolutely stand by that choice. Yes, I know that I can always change my mind, but I highly doubt that's going to happen. A 12-year-old little girl has no business thinking about marriage and making babies at that age, and especially not for the sole purpose of pleasing a man. She needs to take care of herself first and foremost. Babies shouldn't be having babies (and I should know because my mom had my sister and I at only 17 and 18-years-old). 🥺💔♀️💪

    • @LilyBecca
      @LilyBecca 2 месяца назад +2

      She didn't tell anyone about wanting to marry him until she was 19. Then, they were married 3 months later.

    • @Ashley-Renae1989
      @Ashley-Renae1989 2 месяца назад +7

      It's still creepy because he was her teacher
      at one time, regardless of the age. 🤦🤷

    • @melissal3383
      @melissal3383 Месяц назад +3

      You are being mature & honest. My daughter (37) has chosen also to NOT have children. I completely respect her decision. Sure, some children are the most beautiful thing ever, as they grow into beautiful adults. BUT some kids, take a wrong turn, and bring nothing but misery. Even with wonderful parents.
      So young people should think long & hard. Life can be enjoyable but it’s generally challenging, even when kids are easy. So it’s a decision of how much more challenge do you want to ADD to your life??

    • @lovelyletter7460
      @lovelyletter7460 23 дня назад

      Why are so many women getting useless mutts instead of having children? A dog is just an animal that will be dead in 10-15 years. Stop humanizing these things! They’re just animals! They shouldn’t be treated like the children you never had!

    • @Ashley-Renae1989
      @Ashley-Renae1989 3 дня назад

      There's a freedom that comes with not being married or having kids, and I probably wouldn't change my mind for anyone. I honestly love not being tied down with the responsibilities of being a mother and a wife. Also, nobody stays together anymore, which is really sad. Just because you're married with kids, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to be together forever. 🥺💔♀️💪

  • @lallaynb7958
    @lallaynb7958 2 месяца назад +14

    Men made religion🫤

  • @Cheryl_Lynn1
    @Cheryl_Lynn1 2 месяца назад +10

    God said you shall not commit adultery. They are twisting God's word.

  • @Chantillycakes4292
    @Chantillycakes4292 2 месяца назад +30

    If god meant for this to be the way of life then why so many of those who follow this tradition are met with turmoil and imprisonment

    • @theirmom4723
      @theirmom4723 2 месяца назад +3

      Think of the Biblical teaching of ....You will be persecuted for My namesake.

    • @carter_1
      @carter_1 2 месяца назад

      I don't know if that is the best argument said the Joo's, Christians, & Muslims caught up in religious persecution around the globe & for a millennia

    • @user-il9tx9di4b
      @user-il9tx9di4b 2 месяца назад +3

      Normal marriage has a 50% failure rate? Not supporting this, I am happily single, but to each their own?

  • @MaxItUpwithMarta
    @MaxItUpwithMarta 2 месяца назад +7

    the problem is that when there is a divorce everyone gets hurt.

  • @brookelyndilldine6892
    @brookelyndilldine6892 2 месяца назад +18

    Please do more investigating on this topic! I think closed off religious groups are very very interesting….

    • @carter_1
      @carter_1 2 месяца назад +1

      There's starting to be more docu's. Recently they've tried letting people understand vs. Hiding
      Peter Santenello has a whole series of different sects of Mormons (not all poly) but his series was interesting

    • @CindaM.
      @CindaM. 2 месяца назад +4

      There are many good documentaries on here regarding polygamy if you do a quick search! There is also a channel I believe it’s called cult to consciousness and she personally interviews people who have escaped cults and closed religious groups!

    • @user-ji8qg9df5m
      @user-ji8qg9df5m Месяц назад +1

      ​@@CindaM.Cults to consciousness is one of my face YT channels!

  • @nkengasong5078
    @nkengasong5078 Месяц назад +9

    I had a vision and God told me to marry Daniel Craig 😁

  • @sandiarthur9082
    @sandiarthur9082 Месяц назад +7

    What about the boys? The math doesn't work... if each man gets multiple wives, what happens to the "extra" men?

  • @user-mv2nf5ez4e
    @user-mv2nf5ez4e 2 месяца назад +61

    I'm wondering how they have lots of money and hug houses....

    • @latishadavis6985
      @latishadavis6985 2 месяца назад +6

      Seriously!!!

    • @Dovelunalove
      @Dovelunalove 2 месяца назад

      tax evasion and money laundering.

    • @katy.3015
      @katy.3015 2 месяца назад +5

      Church money lol

    • @deaconsmom2000
      @deaconsmom2000 2 месяца назад +33

      Extra wives aren't legal spouses and considered single, unemployed mothers. The state of Utah is footing the bills.

    • @lauren4078
      @lauren4078 2 месяца назад

      They are all on welfare. It's the only way they could afford so many kids.

  • @dionnedunsmore9996
    @dionnedunsmore9996 2 месяца назад +38

    I didnt expect the girls to win their first ever outside basketball game lol thats incredibly cool that they did!

  • @fatirahandfatir4200
    @fatirahandfatir4200 2 месяца назад +30

    I could never accept that. Sorry. One man and one woman.

    • @OutWestRedDirt
      @OutWestRedDirt 2 месяца назад +1

      King David and most of the Greats in Old Testament had numerous wives.
      It was never condemned in scripture.

    • @karenkennelly7206
      @karenkennelly7206 2 месяца назад +1

      What about woman and woman and man and man?

  • @graceandme8042
    @graceandme8042 Месяц назад +11

    I wonder what Bible do they read😮

    • @mikeheesen5011
      @mikeheesen5011 Месяц назад

      The bible is a story made up.. WHo gives a f how people choose to live? WHo are you to judge?

  • @christinenamusisi7127
    @christinenamusisi7127 2 месяца назад +47

    That's a screwed community

    • @user-qc1ur3zk1o
      @user-qc1ur3zk1o 2 месяца назад +2

      Anything that produces lots of good children is bad?

    • @seawilliams7068
      @seawilliams7068 2 месяца назад

      @@user-qc1ur3zk1oI noticed you’re defending this video a lot and I’m wondering why?

    • @user-qc1ur3zk1o
      @user-qc1ur3zk1o 2 месяца назад +1

      @@seawilliams7068 "If a man has 2 wives". Its in The Torah. And its original mormon faith as well. And islam. It comes from The Creator.

    • @seawilliams7068
      @seawilliams7068 2 месяца назад

      @@user-qc1ur3zk1o could you quote that scripture I’m not able to find it?

    • @user-qc1ur3zk1o
      @user-qc1ur3zk1o 2 месяца назад +1

      @@seawilliams7068 Deuteronomy 21:15 I am Old Testament Only.

  • @maryeconomou6573
    @maryeconomou6573 Месяц назад +8

    Making God in their own image. Lord have mercy.😢😢😢😢

  • @egeyermusic
    @egeyermusic 26 дней назад

    Lisa is a most compassionate and intelligent empathetic reporter

  • @lisa4498
    @lisa4498 2 месяца назад +20

    No, thank you!

  • @jackychela4638
    @jackychela4638 2 месяца назад +14

    One word ~Ridiculous!!! Period

  • @user-mv2nf5ez4e
    @user-mv2nf5ez4e 2 месяца назад +20

    I have so much respect for Lisa and her shows, it's so row and interesting. Great job❤

  • @AmirahJoy
    @AmirahJoy 2 месяца назад +5

    I hope things worked out for Robert. He seemed like a good guy, struggling to find his place in the world. I hope he found it, whatever that looks like for him.

  • @blue8710
    @blue8710 2 месяца назад +27

    Plural marriage comes from God??? I don't know what messages the Mormon founder received, but that was definitely not from God. 😅 How can people believe that, it makes no sense at all.

    • @theirmom4723
      @theirmom4723 2 месяца назад

      It came from the "angel" Maroni....

    • @cannkotlarz621
      @cannkotlarz621 2 месяца назад +1

      Because it's a cult and they make up their own rules

    • @OutWestRedDirt
      @OutWestRedDirt 2 месяца назад +1

      What do you do with the man after God's own heart, King David?

  • @LotusLotus1979
    @LotusLotus1979 2 месяца назад +9

    Misery loves company…. That’s why they want a sister wife .

  • @stillhasitall2010
    @stillhasitall2010 Месяц назад +5

    Theresa don’t want to go back she just doesn’t know anything else to do.

  • @kathleenbarry4224
    @kathleenbarry4224 Месяц назад

    Enlightening

  • @lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559
    @lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 2 месяца назад +12

    It's creepy of them to pretend that the children belong to both women. There's nothing natural or moral about denying the bond between a woman or girl and the child she carried and birth.