Coleman Camp Oven - Does it really work?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 мар 2021
  • The little Coleman Camp Oven did a surprisingly great job on our initial test. It packs down into a small size and is very easy to setup. We will be on the lookout for some kind of soft carry bag/sleeve to store the oven in. If you know of any good options let us know!
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Комментарии • 168

  • @vtjmproductionsusa2390
    @vtjmproductionsusa2390 6 месяцев назад +8

    I have used my oven for over 23 years, They bake great. I even make loaf bread 🍞 in mine. Baked perfect every time on my Coleman stove.

    • @RiDankulous
      @RiDankulous Месяц назад

      I'm a bread baker, too. Lots, almost every day with a home oven or bread machine. For camping I will definitely consider this product.

  • @marzsit9833
    @marzsit9833 3 года назад +60

    these ovens were originally designed to work with coleman suitcase stoves that burned coleman fuel/white gas so weight really wasn't an issue... they figured if you were ok with the weight of the 20 pound stove the 7 pound oven wouldn't bother you. the design has been around since the late 50's, the early ones were black not silver and tended to rust easily, the silver ones are made of aluminized steel which does not rust as easily and should last a long time.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  3 года назад +3

      Very cool. Thank you for the info!

    • @tucker2074
      @tucker2074 Год назад

      thankyou for sharing

    • @sergeantbigmac
      @sergeantbigmac 9 месяцев назад +1

      Mine is the black one with copper door. Fun fact; on the inside theres a stamp that says 'dont use with leaded fuel' ...Thats how you know its OLD OLD haha

    • @stevenclarke5606
      @stevenclarke5606 6 месяцев назад

      Exactly they are not intended for backpacking

    • @BushmansAdventures
      @BushmansAdventures 4 месяца назад

      I remember those old steel or aluminized ovens when I was in cubs , scouts and eagles in the late 70’s/early 80’s.
      I recently bought the 100% aluminum model

  • @aliceloeffler1178
    @aliceloeffler1178 2 года назад +31

    One of the best tests I have ever seen. It is all about the product not about the person doing the demonstration or about how they live or where they've been or what are their things that don't apply to the product demonstration. It efficiently shows the setup, demonstrates the time it takes to heat, and shows the outcome of a specific food. Very efficient use of my time to watch this. Thank you. You should do a demonstration to show others how to do this efficiently like you do.

  • @theVTgrizzly
    @theVTgrizzly 3 года назад +37

    I put a square cast iron griddle in the bottom for better heat retention. You have to constantly check and monitor, so the griddle keeps the temp more consistent. I also put Pizza pans directly onto the griddle for a super crispy crust.
    I also cover the top and sides with foil so the heat doesn't leak out all the holes. The oven is small, and if you don't keep the heat in the bottom of everything burns before the top cooks.
    I hang an oven thermometer inside because the front thermometer isn't all that accurate.
    I use this as my primary oven, and it can do almost anything you need once you get the hang of it.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  3 года назад +3

      Those are great tips! Thank you!

    • @kathleenkidman7908
      @kathleenkidman7908 2 года назад

      Cheers for the info.

    • @KatyInNH
      @KatyInNH 2 года назад +1

      Hi Fish,
      Can you tell me the name of the griddle you use? I have been trying to find one that fits!
      Thanks!

    • @livableincome
      @livableincome 2 года назад

      Thankyou very much. Really useful info!

    • @eatwhatukiii2532
      @eatwhatukiii2532 6 месяцев назад

      Great review, very helpful, thanks!

  • @maryeckert9936
    @maryeckert9936 3 года назад +23

    I use a small pizza stone in the bottom of my stove. It helps regulate the heat. I love it!

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  3 года назад +2

      Great idea!

    • @samTollefson
      @samTollefson 2 года назад +6

      Yes, a stone or a porous (unfinished) clay tile like Mexican tile, also you can fold a COTTON towel over the top and sides to help hold in and regulate the heat. I often camp in cold windy weather and those 2 things ad up to make a big difference.

    • @heribertoramos7739
      @heribertoramos7739 2 года назад

      WOULD YOU PUT IT INSIDE THE OVEN?

    • @samTollefson
      @samTollefson 2 года назад +3

      @@heribertoramos7739 Yes, you put the tile inside on the bottom. It must be a little smaller than the inside dimensions so the heat can also go around the stone into the oven space. If you are doing a pizza, I would do it on a pan at the middle height, the stone is mainly for heat regulation. maybe putting the stone on the middle rack would let you cook a pizza on it but I have never tried it.

  • @HJKelley47
    @HJKelley47 3 года назад +11

    I've had mine 24 yrs. Just ordered a pizza stone for it. Can bake a cake, pie, bread, pizza, cookies, rolls,
    meat, fish in the oven. Makes baking outside doable.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  3 года назад

      We have heard quite a few people say the pizza stone helps. Was it hard to find a small one to fit the oven?

    • @brendanb1541
      @brendanb1541 2 года назад +2

      @@ExploreTrekAdventure On a Amazon review of this oven the reviewer used a Waykea 10 x 10.4" pizza stone. Picture showed it fit the oven very well.

    • @cajuncookone
      @cajuncookone 2 года назад

      Did you place the pizza stone at very bottom of the oven to regulate an even temperature or did you place the pizza stone on the metal adjustable shelf and then place the pan directly on top the pizza stone?
      Was my question confusing?

    • @HJKelley47
      @HJKelley47 2 года назад +4

      @@cajuncookone : Normally I place the stone in the very bottom of the oven to help regular an even temperature. For regular cooking, I bake in a baking dish which is positioned on the rack itself. However, for baking a pizza I place the stone on the adjustable rack. There are three sets of holes for adjusting your rack. Mine is set in the 2nd set of holes (center). For pizza, I place the pizza on the stone (depending on the thickness of the crust). For a thin crust I place a bit of aluminum foil on the stone so that the crust bottom does not cook too fast and burn. For a thicker crust I place the slice(s) directly on the stone. Hope that answers your question.

    • @cajuncookone
      @cajuncookone 2 года назад

      @@HJKelley47 Thank you kindly :)

  • @davewolf8869
    @davewolf8869 3 месяца назад

    I bought one of these while vacationing in a van. Works perfectly. I have a propane oven/stove combo now, however I am not getting rid of this one! It'll cook a pizza real good. Much recommend!

  • @off-road_dogs_n_donuts
    @off-road_dogs_n_donuts 11 месяцев назад

    thank you for making this video. We just did our first camping trip and took this oven with us. I felt like an expert after watching your video.

  • @stevenearls2456
    @stevenearls2456 3 года назад +3

    Good job showing the oven. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Titan500J
    @Titan500J 9 месяцев назад +2

    I just got one of these and I'm looking forward to using it on our next camping trip.
    I have been sticking to Coleman and Stanley products for my camping equipment as that there very well made for what I can afford.
    Thanks for the video!!

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  9 месяцев назад +1

      Coleman makes some great camp items. Have fun with your new oven!

    • @pamelaklemp5615
      @pamelaklemp5615 5 месяцев назад

      Me too. I've been collecting and using Coleman and STANLEY camping products for decades. Perfect for Car/Van camping gear and their smaller items are great for hiking, kayaking, fishing trips, etc., or just a quick brew-up for day outings.

  • @jrod3868
    @jrod3868 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for your review. I will buy this oven after seeing your well done presentation!

  • @MistyMeadowsPermacultureFarm
    @MistyMeadowsPermacultureFarm Год назад +1

    Thanks for your video. I bought one of these for our wood stove. So far, so good!

  • @signemarkuson1940
    @signemarkuson1940 Год назад

    Thankyou for testing this item,sold!!

  • @dannyeugenewaits9486
    @dannyeugenewaits9486 3 года назад +2

    What a fun and great review!! Cheers!

  • @Slalakum
    @Slalakum Год назад

    Might need this. Looks like it works pretty good.

  • @jeanniebaker9929
    @jeanniebaker9929 Год назад

    Love your t-shirt and the Trader Joes plantbased rolls!!

  • @linolino
    @linolino 3 месяца назад

    adorabile il tuo sorriso all'inizio del video 😊

  • @ronschreiber3635
    @ronschreiber3635 3 года назад

    Nice I love that Smile too.

  • @marlenemartel9649
    @marlenemartel9649 Год назад

    Excellent video! Thank you very much! I am buying this oven, it is absolutely great! Cheers :)

  • @OverlandPNW
    @OverlandPNW 3 года назад

    Very cool oven ! Haven't seen that one before.

  • @romstar
    @romstar Год назад

    That looks delicious 😋 😊 I hoped you saved some for Snowball!🙏😘👍🤤😉

  • @crazycrab8578
    @crazycrab8578 2 года назад +1

    I made a oven using a metal bread bin, covered it with oven insulation, the stove i use is Turm sports, I have one of these as well, , but the older one, no temp thing on it,

  • @bryanwong729
    @bryanwong729 2 года назад +2

    I was searching for reviews on this folding camping oven and then saw your Sea Shepherd tshirt! Love it!! 💚🥹🌱 Nice review too. How has the oven held up for you on your adventures?

  • @debbi7775
    @debbi7775 3 года назад +2

    Cool video, I didn’t even know the cinnamon rolls from trader Joe’s are plant-based, that’s awesome 💕

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  3 года назад +1

      The cinnamon rolls are soooo good. Love Trader Joes. 😍

    • @simonkenton5927
      @simonkenton5927 2 года назад +1

      I guess I don't understand are there any cinnamon rolls that are not plant based Thanks for your help Simon

    • @billb8060
      @billb8060 2 года назад +3

      When it comes down to it, Cows are plant based.

    • @mrequi1
      @mrequi1 2 года назад

      @@ExploreTrekAdventure Yah come to think of it, every cinnamon roll ive made or eaten in the last half century was 'plant based'

  • @justalurkr
    @justalurkr 9 месяцев назад

    That's Snowball's box now ❤

  • @bayangpunla6991
    @bayangpunla6991 2 года назад

    Nice oven.. Hope I can get 1 of those.. KS

  • @davidmilledge221
    @davidmilledge221 6 месяцев назад

    Ive got the original made in 1910 by valour put a valour heater or the blue flame burner under it made back then also , iv cooked some great meals also roasts in it , thats what they used on the go or didnt have a wood oven in the house the idea still kicking around today 😊 and folding now 👍never tried it on over the barby gas burner will do one day and yep keep the flame low these things get bloody hot inside , and it cooked the roast around the same time as my house oven dos

  • @sherryh7485
    @sherryh7485 2 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @pamelaklemp5615
    @pamelaklemp5615 5 месяцев назад +1

    Your unboxing and demo looks like it worked great. Do you still use it, like it 2 Years on? What sleeve / carry case did you find for carrying it and storing it? I'm guessing a soft computer bag might work and have extra pockets for any add-ons you need like oven mitts or hot pads.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  5 месяцев назад +1

      We have been storing it in the original box which has definitely degraded over time. Having a thick soft carry bag would be a great idea.

  • @richschwartz8004
    @richschwartz8004 2 года назад +1

    Was it hard to get the temperature adjusted to where you needed it? Thanks for the review. God bless and stay safe.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад +1

      The temperature definitely fluctuates a bunch especially when you open the door to check on things. Not too bad if you keep an eye on it. 😀

  • @tomballard4794
    @tomballard4794 2 года назад +1

    I can't put mine together that fast. I noticed that the thermometer is off by about 25deg to hot. I also put a sheet of foil around mine to keep the heat in a little better. Have made pies,potatoes, biscuits, cinnamon buns. Going to try a small roast next.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад

      In our last video we made Apple crisp while we were camping. It seemed like our gauge was reading a bit on the cool side. Still turned out great. Sounds like you have made some tasty things in your oven.

  • @crochetingaroundnewzealand
    @crochetingaroundnewzealand Год назад

    I haven't used my huge oven at home for 20 yrs. Everything is done on the stove top or in a sandwich press. Casseroles, sausages, pizzas, etc. But this would be cheap enough to use at home. I do miss cooking roast veges.

  • @kathleenkidman7908
    @kathleenkidman7908 2 года назад

    I'd like to have seen the colman cooker used.

  • @crawford323
    @crawford323 2 года назад

    Slick and affordable

  • @danielingrey8185
    @danielingrey8185 Год назад +1

    This is interesting to see. I've a few years experience of burning stuff in a homemade version, that I copied from one I'd seen with Andy Capps Comandos. Now though, it looks like I can just go out and buy one....

    • @simplysourdough5444
      @simplysourdough5444 Год назад

      LOL, I've been looking at ways of rigging up a DIY. Sometimes cheaper may not save in the long run.

  • @oklahomaisok
    @oklahomaisok 2 года назад +2

    It would be good if they could put a little glass window on the side of the oven like they do with tent stoves so you could watch your food baking instead of having to open the door and allowing the heat to escape just because you want to check on them.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад +3

      That would be a nice feature. Since the oven is fairly small in size it does heat back up quickly.

  • @tucker2074
    @tucker2074 Год назад

    Thankyou

  • @shooster5884
    @shooster5884 3 месяца назад

    What about a fire blanket over the top ? Would that be safe?
    Would a baking tray on the base work as a better heat distributor?

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 месяца назад

      We have seen people make fireproof covers for them to help regulate the heat (especially in windy conditions)

  • @MountainRoots
    @MountainRoots 3 года назад +1

    Hey thanks for sharing the video! Never seen one of these before...looks like it works great 👍

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  3 года назад +1

      The initial test worked way better than we thought it would. Excited to do more with it this summer.

    • @MountainRoots
      @MountainRoots 3 года назад +1

      @@ExploreTrekAdventure do you think something like a coleman propane burner/stove would heat it up?

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  3 года назад +1

      I would think so. It traps the heat really well.

    • @MountainRoots
      @MountainRoots 3 года назад +1

      @@ExploreTrekAdventure perfect, thanks for the info!

  • @millenium2003
    @millenium2003 3 года назад +1

    Buying one

  • @NothingToNoOneInParticular
    @NothingToNoOneInParticular 2 года назад

    I've been looking for an old pizza stone to cut to fit the bottom of the oven at a thrift store. To try to even out the heat more. Or maybe even fire brick would work? I'm going to have to try this on my kitchen stove!!! lol

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад

      You don’t have to worry about the wind cooling the oven when your in your kitchen. 🤣 let us know if you find a good solution for the pizza stone.

    • @livableincome
      @livableincome 2 года назад

      A fire brick or two is a great idea. Thanks.

  • @davebenson1294
    @davebenson1294 Месяц назад

    Way back in the 1970s I put one on a hibachi and used it as a smoker.

  • @kennethstevenson4817
    @kennethstevenson4817 3 года назад +1

    Great review, was wondering how I was going to cook my biscuits at the camp sight and love the Sea Shepherds T,

  • @jimmydcricket5893
    @jimmydcricket5893 2 года назад

    Would it work well with chunks of fresh snapper and tuna while on the boat using a duel fuel stove?

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад

      Not sure duel fuel matters as long as it can maintain a steady temperature.

    • @mrequi1
      @mrequi1 2 года назад

      Or you could spring for the Camp King (or Moor or something like that) oven (bout $250 US on Amazon) but it looks too heavy & bulky.

  • @debbriggs5811
    @debbriggs5811 2 года назад

    Is this only supposed to be used on top of a gas camp stove in a camper or on top a Colman gas stove Or are their other methods of heating it.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад

      They are designed to sit above a gas burner but any heat source would probably work.

  • @claudiapatry9454
    @claudiapatry9454 2 года назад

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  • @shermanhofacker4428
    @shermanhofacker4428 2 года назад +3

    I have been using these for decades, without something in the bottom to even out the heat and an insulated wrap over the outside they are a horrible way to try to bake; take forever to heat up, waste a tremendous amount of fuel, and cook very unevenly. A slight breeze can increase the heating and cooking time by double.

  • @JerseyStyle7
    @JerseyStyle7 2 года назад

    I found a 9 1/2 inch silicone round baking pan do you think that would fit in there ??? 🧐

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад +1

      You have to tilt the pan in order to get it through the door but once inside it fits fine.

    • @JerseyStyle7
      @JerseyStyle7 2 года назад

      @@ExploreTrekAdventure I just actually ordered the oven tonight from Amazon they finally got them back in stock very hard to find I also bought a silicone round pan I think that will be easy cleanup, now I just have to get my fiancé to start camping I already bought two campers that sat in the driveway never used sold them this time around I bought a nice tent I’ll start out slow

  • @CRAZYCRAB9007
    @CRAZYCRAB9007 2 года назад

    got one, not that modal, an older, on, may I susjest you make a fire proof , insulator cover for it, it helps to keep the heat in, I went down to me local cooker shop, explained to them wot I was after, then next old oven they got, they kindly ripped out the stuff for me, made a nice cover for it

  • @Bostonbob3
    @Bostonbob3 2 года назад +3

    How do you keep the temperature from continually rising? Do you shut the burners off once it reaches the desired temp, and it retains the heat?

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад +2

      The oven isn’t very efficient at holding heat since it is lightweight metal. This means the burner needs to stay on at a fairly high level to hold a high heat.

    • @mrequi1
      @mrequi1 2 года назад

      @@ExploreTrekAdventure So these would be a lot more economical with the white gas model. Which I've always preferred. And the 1 lb propane cylinders are getting scarse for some reason.

    • @jonothandoeser
      @jonothandoeser 2 года назад

      @@mrequi1 Because I am buying them all up! Beware to the unprepared!!!

    • @mrequi1
      @mrequi1 2 года назад

      @@jonothandoeser I usually use the big tanks w an adapter but can fill the small ones from them if needsd

    • @jonothandoeser
      @jonothandoeser 2 года назад

      Yeas I have the 30 lbs. cylinder with adapter as well. Just in case.

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 2 года назад

    What size dish was that you used for the cooking?

  • @denniskirschbaum9109
    @denniskirschbaum9109 2 года назад

    Anyone know how tall the oven is when it is folded down? Trying to figure out if it will fit in the space we have above the stove.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад +1

      Stored in box it is 3" x 13" x 12.5". Just by itself folded down it is approximately 2.25" x 12" x 12.25".

    • @denniskirschbaum9109
      @denniskirschbaum9109 2 года назад

      @@ExploreTrekAdventure Thank you so much!

  • @jeanniebaker9929
    @jeanniebaker9929 Год назад

    How long does the oven take to cool down enough to pack it up?

  • @FortunateKidz
    @FortunateKidz 2 года назад

    Is it available in the USA ?

  • @fernandezshaw4303
    @fernandezshaw4303 4 месяца назад

    Will it fit a 10" inch pizza 🍕 bake pan!.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  4 месяца назад

      I don’t think so, but if it did you would have to really angle the pan to get in the opening.

  • @johnnorman7708
    @johnnorman7708 2 года назад +2

    I've wanted one of these for quite a while. I could use 2 actually. They seem to be a bit overpriced though. I'm surprised some other makers haven't made their own version of these.

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад +1

      Yes it would be nice if they were a bit cheaper but they do work quite well.

    • @cocacolafiesta
      @cocacolafiesta 6 месяцев назад

      Got mine in a box at a garage sale for $6. I did buy one originally at $45 because every time I checked the price kept getting higher.

  • @claudiapatry9454
    @claudiapatry9454 2 года назад

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  • @DeterminedDIYer
    @DeterminedDIYer 2 года назад +1

    I bought one of these for power outages lol. I have an eco zoom incase the gas goes out, but I have a gas stove. If you put a small pizza stone in the bottom it keeps heat better. I don't have one of those fire blankets yet though.

  • @rikuk3
    @rikuk3 6 месяцев назад +1

    They work OK but they leak a lot of heat and your better off making a cover from a fire blanket, retains the heat well, cooks you food more evenly

  • @timmusician5060
    @timmusician5060 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was so afraid you weren’t going to glaze those rolls 😬😅

  • @helidude3502
    @helidude3502 2 года назад

    If it fits, it sits. 😺

  • @maryajones3147
    @maryajones3147 3 года назад

    So I guess it would go on a campfire when camping?✌

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  3 года назад

      You put the oven over one of the burners on your camp stove. 😀

  • @notezz162
    @notezz162 10 месяцев назад +1

    4:43 oooKKayYJk

  • @sp10sn
    @sp10sn 2 года назад +1

    plant based cinnamon rolls. who'd have thought?

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад

      I know right! 😉 Most brands you find at the store have whey or some milk based ingredient hidden in there.

  • @emilymcfadden4360
    @emilymcfadden4360 2 года назад +4

    Note: DONT TRY THIS ON AN ELECTRIC RANGE!

  • @tiffanytate1528
    @tiffanytate1528 2 года назад

    *SnowBall says "I Fit... I Sit" >^..^

  • @Sonjaorleans
    @Sonjaorleans 9 месяцев назад +1

    If it was half inche bigger my jacks pizza would fit

  • @emilymcfadden4360
    @emilymcfadden4360 2 года назад +1

    Some edges on these are poorly finished, razor sharp! Use a carborundum stone to deburr the sharp edges, youll save your skin, literally.

  • @wardcrisp
    @wardcrisp 2 года назад +1

    Ok call me stupid but aren't all cinnamon rolls plant based?

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  2 года назад +1

      Most brands have eggs, milk or whey to their ingredients.

    • @rickw4160
      @rickw4160 2 года назад +2

      Not the good ones. Lol. Butter and lard are not plant based!

    • @mrequi1
      @mrequi1 2 года назад +3

      @@rickw4160 and who would've guessed butter and lard would turn out to be a much healthier alternative to the hydrogenated fats we've been consuming forever.

  • @sjordan7085
    @sjordan7085 6 месяцев назад

    These work a lot better if you put a square pizza stone in the bottom to prevent burning. Although I own one of these, I can't claim to have used it much. Probably one more rather unnecessary 'toy' for camping.

  • @cofee28
    @cofee28 Год назад

    Plant based ? 😮
    Isn't flour from wheat, a plant ?

    • @ExploreTrekAdventure
      @ExploreTrekAdventure  Год назад

      You’re right, wheat is from a plant. A lot of cinnamon rolls have dairy in them, these do not. 🙂

    • @keralee
      @keralee 5 месяцев назад

      Too bad they have veg oil PUFA fats in them instead of good old butter...its stearic acid in the dairy fat that protects us from the super-fattening effects of plant oils esp those in grains. Ghee and butter have worked for humans for thousands of years...veg oils are a new thing and along with their incfeased use one sees increased diabetes, cancer, heart disease, obesity...the graphs of incidence over time are identical to the graph of use of veg oils over time. Identical. The data is out there for anyone who cares to look for it. FireInABottle yt chan dives deep into the biology of it all.

  • @WLM596
    @WLM596 21 день назад

    @joyce663