I was offered the part of Dawn Frasers daughter, in the Australian film "Dawn". When i was about 3, or 4. While it was a teeny part, for many years, i resented my mother for not having the bus fare, to get me there. (Maybe, it could have led to other things). Now, i am so grateful.
It's certainly one of them. Scotty Beckett is another pretty sad story. Plagued by drugs, crimes, and violence so bad that his family now refuses to talk about him due to very bad memories.
Or poor Lucille Ricksen - she was a child star in silent films, but when she was about 13, they started casting her in adult roles, often as the wife to an actor 20 or 30 years her senior. She was in over 30 films & died of tuberculosis at age 14 - just weeks after her mother had literally dropped dead on top of her from a fatal heart attack. Most felt the film industry had worked Lucille to death.
Strange because I was thinking about him while watching a video about the late child actor Jackie Coogan. He was found dead in my neighborhood in an abandoned building by some children going in that building to play. Sad that he was buried in Potters Field. Idk why nobody from Hollywood could take up a collection for a simple but proper burial.
I remember all of these kids because my mom liked their movies & would watch their re-runs. It's very sad about how they "aged out" even Shirley Temple. I'm pretty sure I saw every movie she ever made & once she turned into a teenager, there were very few movies. I think it was that way for any of those child actors, except a very few.
As for Shirley Temple, she did movies into her early 20s. Once during an interview, while plugging her autobiography 40 years later, she was asked if she knew her last movie would be her last? Shirley replied "I hoped it would be. I loved making films but I was ready to leave the world of make believe for the real one." People aren't happy when child stars commit the inevitable crime of growing up and especially for child stars that existed before TV, making that transition into older roles was even harder. But I was very happy for Shirley Temple because she got to be a wife and a mother, have a very full diplomatic career and then be a Grandma; live as normal and happy life as she could. Only coming back into the spot light now and then to grace us with her winning smile and classy wit ❤
It was indeed sad when little Shirley Temple was literally kicked out of her wee bungalow on the studio lot and lost her 20th Century (Fox) contract as an early teen. Though honestly she was delighted to attend Westlake School for Girls and be a normal tween and teen. She did act and do radio a bit here and there as a teenager (Including the very fine film Since You Went Away) but went on to a normal and successful life. Of all the child actors, hers is perhaps one of the least troubling stories.
Shocking most recently learned thing about hollywood children was the coogan account was named after jackie coogan who was uncle fester in original addams family
Oh my god. "Greed is an overpowering sin that is committed against children, every day." @32:50 Hearing Jackie Coogan say it that way was unexpectedly moving; it literally choked me up, and i'm usually turned off by religious terminology being used for man's own poor choices, but he's a guy who knows. And i doubt he was referring solely to financial crimes against kids.
The 20s and 30s were never innocent. They only put everything under the carpet. But I think this documentary is too old, to show how these kids were really abused. What they did with Jackie Cooper was a real crime and his uncle and the Studio bosses would go to prison today. And righteous so.
Shirley Temple's early films would also have been scorned and banned in a lot of areas. The Baby Burlesque were some pretty disgusting films obviously made by pedophiles. Shirley Temple herself did not like them once she looked at them through the eyes of a sane adult.
The ultimate American Dream... Most of the time, those loving parents of theirs just give you the creeps, don't they? As for the usual talent scouts... 🙄 Huge respect for that unforgotten wonderful human named Jackie Coogan! Personally never saw the utmost cynical Hwood kids industry the same way after I happened to read, in the late 1970s or early '80s, about Bobby Driscoll's tragic life story. The shameful Disney touch, you know...
The sad thing about Jackie Coogan is his case of money being taken from him isn't isolated. He was just the first one who had the nerve to take his parents to court. The majority of children in the industry this happened to did not. Shirley Temple for example her parents did the same thing. She just didn't want to stir up family drama and decided to let it go rather than suing them. It's also sad that even the ones who do get to keep their money they often go broke as it's not mandatory in child acting education to teach them how to manage funds so they don't know how. Judy Garland is a great example there. She was broke much of her adult life because she was never taught how to manage money and often left it to her husbands and/or accounts who mis-managed it. Money management is something everyone should be taught, but it seems child actors need it quite a lot as they're set to have more money once they turn 18 than the average 18 year old. Unless their parents or accountants stole it; which in that case is why we need better Coogan Laws. A child actor should be entitled to more than 15% of their earnings. What do parents and accountants really need the other 85% for? Pay the agents/managers/accountants what they legally need, and put the rest of it away for college and/or adult living. Perhaps with the exception of private school. Mara Wilsons father did spend some of her earnings so she could go to private school, but I would say that is ok.
Shirley’s parents built a huge home with her money and then when she got married she ended up living in her play house (which was basically a fully functioning little home), just shows how even if they loved their children they didn’t really have the child’s best interests at heart… or worse, used their children for the money and fame and disregarded them altogether. I also think the 85% is supposed to be spent on a nice home for the children, private schools for their protection, and to give them a good life. The parents do also have to put in some work, meaning they couldn’t really have a normal job if they’re always in set or going to auditions, so I feel thats their wage in a small way too, not near as much as the child should get though. Most of the parents do just spend their child’s wage on their new extravagant lifestyles. I wonder how we are going to look back at the lack of protection for the child influencers of today, making just as much money, being just as if not more exploited, but with zero laws to protect them in any way.
@bowie5434 I'm not against the parents having access to some of it to legitimately take care of the child as if you have a famous child; they can't live in the slums, that is not safe at all. They don't need 85% to do that though. Child actors make enough money so the parents wouldn't need that much to take care of them. They should change the law to at least 50%. Any parent who can't take care of a child with 50% of the earnings is lavish living, not actually taking care of them. Especially with the ones who are cheating; like the Culkin parents who became the kids managers to make sure they'd get some of the money. That's another loophole many parents take. It's awful what seeing green does to many Hollywood parents.
Yikes--that line too: "They were adorable, they were wanted, they were loved one day... and then, just as they were becoming human beings--full, adult human beings--they were told 'You're finished.'" The fickle love of narcissists and peed-o's... the moment you stop 'playing along' without protest, you cost too much effort for them. They'd rather move on to another malleable--and to them, utterly faceless--unformed human. It's easier to project fantasy when there's no conflict of reality/identity present, amiright?
Jackie Coogan was the one and only "Uncle Fester" on the 60's show "The Addams family" he stole every scene he was in and I loved him. He was always wanting to shoot some strangers in the back "Shoot'em in the back!!!!!" I saw him in dramas in the 70's and 80's and he was good in serious roles, he really was. What I didn't like about child stars was how they were sexualized on screen and the studio execs did it for real, abusing them in real life.
I knew Alphas Mom and Sister . The Mother had a dance studio & His Sister was My Sisters freind and they were on drill team together. Ironically Alfalfa taught voice lessons at the Mom's studio . My best freinds Dad was Maloy On 1ADAM 12 He took us to the set of Swiss Family Robinson once and we got to play in the giant tree house all day .
That person being negative about the old child roles and supporting the new child roles nauseated me. And then the next guy talking about how money is important now. Well it is probably the most overrated part of today's society. Perhaps kids should be encouraged to be focusing upon caring for others and that compassion is important and money should be relegated to the thing it really is.....nothing more. This is the first one of these I have to give a huge thumbs down because of the sickening way it was ended
Not true at all.. Her parents put her money away for her.. Read her autobiography "Child Star".. A lot of inaccurate things have been written about her (her children should sue) also, watch the documentary "Shirley Temple, America's little darling".. It's excellent!
@@donnaedelen1199 "Of the $3,207,666 in earnings her family had received in her name, only $44,000 remained in her trust account." Her father (ironically a banker) spent much of it, and made bad financial investments. She and her husband vowed to never mention it while her parents lived.
I remember watching this already. But it had a diff thumbnail. I always wanted to be famous. #DisneyDiva Wish my parents put me in acting. But i know child actors dont always come out so good. Especially child actors i know of. 😢
That’s not Michael Jackson. Paying attention, you hear the voice of Jackie Coogan, talking about his appearance as a very young child in film footage from *1920*. 1920….38 years BEFORE Michael was born. @@hairstillred5135
@@ronswansonsdog2833rhis was made in the early eighties according to the date at the beginning.. Michael Jackson would have been about 22, Those boys were called Jackson though
I was offered the part of Dawn Frasers daughter, in the Australian film "Dawn". When i was about 3, or 4. While it was a teeny part, for many years, i resented my mother for not having the bus fare, to get me there. (Maybe, it could have led to other things). Now, i am so grateful.
Wow, little Keith Coogan before he was Keith Coogan. Thanks so much for uploading.
The story of Bobby Driscoll is the saddest of them all. Buried in Potters Field anonimous.
*anonymous 😂
It's certainly one of them. Scotty Beckett is another pretty sad story. Plagued by drugs, crimes, and violence so bad that his family now refuses to talk about him due to very bad memories.
Or poor Lucille Ricksen - she was a child star in silent films, but when she was about 13, they started casting her in adult roles, often as the wife to an actor 20 or 30 years her senior. She was in over 30 films & died of tuberculosis at age 14 - just weeks after her mother had literally dropped dead on top of her from a fatal heart attack. Most felt the film industry had worked Lucille to death.
Strange because I was thinking about him while watching a video about the late child actor Jackie Coogan. He was found dead in my neighborhood in an abandoned building by some children going in that building to play. Sad that he was buried in Potters Field. Idk why nobody from Hollywood could take up a collection for a simple but proper burial.
Yes for sure. He needs a biopic film
I remember all of these kids because my mom liked their movies & would watch their re-runs. It's very sad about how they "aged out" even Shirley Temple. I'm pretty sure I saw every movie she ever made & once she turned into a teenager, there were very few movies. I think it was that way for any of those child actors, except a very few.
As for Shirley Temple, she did movies into her early 20s. Once during an interview, while plugging her autobiography 40 years later, she was asked if she knew her last movie would be her last? Shirley replied "I hoped it would be. I loved making films but I was ready to leave the world of make believe for the real one."
People aren't happy when child stars commit the inevitable crime of growing up and especially for child stars that existed before TV, making that transition into older roles was even harder. But I was very happy for Shirley Temple because she got to be a wife and a mother, have a very full diplomatic career and then be a Grandma; live as normal and happy life as she could. Only coming back into the spot light now and then to grace us with her winning smile and classy wit ❤
It was indeed sad when little Shirley Temple was literally kicked out of her wee bungalow on the studio lot and lost her 20th Century (Fox) contract as an early teen. Though honestly she was delighted to attend Westlake School for Girls and be a normal tween and teen.
She did act and do radio a bit here and there as a teenager (Including the very fine film Since You Went Away) but went on to a normal and successful life. Of all the child actors, hers is perhaps one of the least troubling stories.
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Shocking most recently learned thing about hollywood children was the coogan account was named after jackie coogan who was uncle fester in original addams family
Oh my god. "Greed is an overpowering sin that is committed against children, every day." @32:50
Hearing Jackie Coogan say it that way was unexpectedly moving; it literally choked me up, and i'm usually turned off by religious terminology being used for man's own poor choices, but he's a guy who knows. And i doubt he was referring solely to financial crimes against kids.
Right? I watch this, and all I see is predators, paedophiles, exploitation, and greed. It's so sad.
The 20s and 30s were never innocent. They only put everything under the carpet. But I think this documentary is too old, to show how these kids were really abused. What they did with Jackie Cooper was a real crime and his uncle and the Studio bosses would go to prison today. And righteous so.
Well said
Shirley Temple's early films would also have been scorned and banned in a lot of areas. The Baby Burlesque were some pretty disgusting films obviously made by pedophiles. Shirley Temple herself did not like them once she looked at them through the eyes of a sane adult.
the film “ The Bad Seed” has the most amazing acting job by a child. And “ A. I. “
The ultimate American Dream... Most of the time, those loving parents of theirs just give you the creeps, don't they? As for the usual talent scouts... 🙄
Huge respect for that unforgotten wonderful human named Jackie Coogan! Personally never saw the utmost cynical Hwood kids industry the same way after I happened to read, in the late 1970s or early '80s, about Bobby Driscoll's tragic life story. The shameful Disney touch, you know...
I always thought Darla from "Little Rascals" was a good actress and she was so cute.
The sad thing about Jackie Coogan is his case of money being taken from him isn't isolated. He was just the first one who had the nerve to take his parents to court. The majority of children in the industry this happened to did not. Shirley Temple for example her parents did the same thing. She just didn't want to stir up family drama and decided to let it go rather than suing them.
It's also sad that even the ones who do get to keep their money they often go broke as it's not mandatory in child acting education to teach them how to manage funds so they don't know how. Judy Garland is a great example there. She was broke much of her adult life because she was never taught how to manage money and often left it to her husbands and/or accounts who mis-managed it.
Money management is something everyone should be taught, but it seems child actors need it quite a lot as they're set to have more money once they turn 18 than the average 18 year old. Unless their parents or accountants stole it; which in that case is why we need better Coogan Laws. A child actor should be entitled to more than 15% of their earnings. What do parents and accountants really need the other 85% for? Pay the agents/managers/accountants what they legally need, and put the rest of it away for college and/or adult living. Perhaps with the exception of private school. Mara Wilsons father did spend some of her earnings so she could go to private school, but I would say that is ok.
Shirley’s parents built a huge home with her money and then when she got married she ended up living in her play house (which was basically a fully functioning little home), just shows how even if they loved their children they didn’t really have the child’s best interests at heart… or worse, used their children for the money and fame and disregarded them altogether.
I also think the 85% is supposed to be spent on a nice home for the children, private schools for their protection, and to give them a good life. The parents do also have to put in some work, meaning they couldn’t really have a normal job if they’re always in set or going to auditions, so I feel thats their wage in a small way too, not near as much as the child should get though. Most of the parents do just spend their child’s wage on their new extravagant lifestyles.
I wonder how we are going to look back at the lack of protection for the child influencers of today, making just as much money, being just as if not more exploited, but with zero laws to protect them in any way.
@bowie5434 I'm not against the parents having access to some of it to legitimately take care of the child as if you have a famous child; they can't live in the slums, that is not safe at all. They don't need 85% to do that though. Child actors make enough money so the parents wouldn't need that much to take care of them. They should change the law to at least 50%. Any parent who can't take care of a child with 50% of the earnings is lavish living, not actually taking care of them. Especially with the ones who are cheating; like the Culkin parents who became the kids managers to make sure they'd get some of the money. That's another loophole many parents take. It's awful what seeing green does to many Hollywood parents.
Yikes--that line too: "They were adorable, they were wanted, they were loved one day... and then, just as they were becoming human beings--full, adult human beings--they were told 'You're finished.'"
The fickle love of narcissists and peed-o's... the moment you stop 'playing along' without protest, you cost too much effort for them. They'd rather move on to another malleable--and to them, utterly faceless--unformed human. It's easier to project fantasy when there's no conflict of reality/identity present, amiright?
So crazy and just really wild, the movie studios didn't give those many child movie stars, the wages that they were actually entitled too.
They treated these poor kids as prop$ instead of human beings. The abuse both physically and mentally that went on still happens to this day.
I had a crush on Roddy McDowell when i was a kid, until i found out he was older than my dad.
The whole, he's gay could've proved a bigger problem then the age difference 😂😂
ME TOO ❤
Him being gay and dead doesn't make him any less crush worthy to me.
Jackie Coogan was the one and only "Uncle Fester" on the 60's show "The Addams family" he stole every scene he was in and I loved him. He was always wanting to shoot some strangers in the back "Shoot'em in the back!!!!!" I saw him in dramas in the 70's and 80's and he was good in serious roles, he really was. What I didn't like about child stars was how they were sexualized on screen and the studio execs did it for real, abusing them in real life.
"The innocence of the 20'd and 30's when children could just be children"? Only in film.
Wow. That put the best spin possible on a world of stink and abuse.
With all that has came out, any parent trying to get their child famous needs to be investigated 😡
This is so sad!
I knew Alphas Mom and Sister . The Mother had a dance studio & His Sister was My Sisters freind and they were on drill team together. Ironically Alfalfa taught voice lessons at the Mom's studio . My best freinds Dad was Maloy On 1ADAM 12 He took us to the set of Swiss Family Robinson once and we got to play in the giant tree house all day .
I remember Julie Anne Haddock from 'The Facts of Life.' This must've been after she was fired and was going on other auditions.
It's kind of a shame she never was able to get another break after The Facts of Life.
It's okay to be ethnic, so long as we can't tell which "eth."
I caught that (with an eye roll)...
Good to remember what the attitudes of the time were.
I had a crush on Spanky, until I was aware he was deceased.
It's a very "strange" Name.... "Spank"... "y" 😮😢😢
Him eating that meat lol Charlie lol ❤.
Our Gang started in 1922.
Baby Peggy was a cutie. She passed recently.
She passed away 4 years ago at 101 years old.
That person being negative about the old child roles and supporting the new child roles nauseated me. And then the next guy talking about how money is important now. Well it is probably the most overrated part of today's society. Perhaps kids should be encouraged to be focusing upon caring for others and that compassion is important and money should be relegated to the thing it really is.....nothing more. This is the first one of these I have to give a huge thumbs down because of the sickening way it was ended
Shirley Temple had all her earnings stolen.
Not true at all.. Her parents put her money away for her.. Read her autobiography "Child Star".. A lot of inaccurate things have been written about her (her children should sue) also, watch the documentary "Shirley Temple, America's little darling".. It's excellent!
@@donnaedelen1199 "Of the $3,207,666 in earnings her family had received in her name, only $44,000 remained in her trust account." Her father (ironically a banker) spent much of it, and made bad financial investments. She and her husband vowed to never mention it while her parents lived.
My cousin Charlie Chaplin
I remember watching this already. But it had a diff thumbnail. I always wanted to be famous.
#DisneyDiva
Wish my parents put me in acting. But i know child actors dont always come out so good. Especially child actors i know of. 😢
Anybody notice a very young Michael Jackson in the beginning?
Where is there time stamp
That’s not Michael Jackson
That’s not Michael Jackson.
Paying attention, you hear the voice of Jackie Coogan, talking about his appearance as a very young child in film footage from *1920*.
1920….38 years BEFORE Michael was born.
@@hairstillred5135
@@WaileaGurlYes it was, and the narrator even says it’s the Jackson 5.
@@ronswansonsdog2833rhis was made in the early eighties according to the date at the beginning.. Michael Jackson would have been about 22, Those boys were called Jackson though
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WTF?
@@Dotsaa2space bar broken? 😂😂
And also indoctinate!