Why Child Stars are Set Up To Fail | Dear Hollywood Episode 1
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2023
- In the kickoff episode of Dear Hollywood, Alyson introduces the toddler-to-train wreck pipeline, a century old system involving child entertainers who enter the industry with pluck and promise, only to repeat similarly tragic downward spirals. Alyson discloses insights from a confidential meeting with multiple generations of former child actors, and provides the contextual framework through which we can investigate the events and elements contributing to their demise.
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This goes beyond Hollywood. Child stars have a lot in common with children of abuse. You speaking up will allow even more healing to begin. Thank you for being brave🙏👏👏
This was so well structured. While I’m disappointed that the production company switched on you, I’m grateful you continue to use your platform to advocate and inform. Very much looking forward to this series. Thank you for your work.
Onward we go! Thanks for being here!
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3:21 into this video and I wanted to stop and give my “theory” before I watch further.
I think the “train wreck” is the outcome of a recipe that includes all of the ingredients or factors that you listed. Some have more impact and power, a few may not be included at all but on the whole it’s a recipe for disfunction either way.
Childhood has varied drastically through history and still does. Let’s take western society for this example. Up until the 1800-1900s childhood was short. Around 12-15 years of age the child was expected to take on adult responsibilities. As the life expectancy became longer, so did childhood. Fast forward to today and we see children are overly protected and coddled for a longer time and are struggling with becoming adults. In summary, childhood is a necessity for a healthy adulthood but too much of a childhood can result in the same outcome as too little of one.
Either way, childhood should not take place on a public stage among adults who profit from it.
Looking forward to following your Dear Hollywood series. Thank you for bringing the reality of glamour to our attention. ❤
Something that makes this all the worse is realizing the sheer scope of how many of us as kids grew up watching other children act thinking it must've been the greatest job ever. Finally finding out how bad it really is and then feeling sick to our stomachs at the joy we were feeling while those we watched were suffering horrendously.
I don’t think it’s fair to feel bad about your child self enjoying these child stars and their shows, you were a child yourself with likely issues and trauma forming in your life. I think that realization is important though, but the guilt shouldn’t be put on yourself as a child, instead directed in what actions you’ll take today to prevent this from happening to children you know or parents who want their children to be stars.
Why would you feel guilty or bad about enjoying it? That’s kind of making it about yourself.
@@lionsbetryin989It’s a totally natural reaction Feeling like you helped hurt people is painful. Folks grew up watching these kids who were their age, coming to care about them, looking up to them, maybe even wanting to be their friend. Learning they were suffering all that time is frightening.
Now, I don’t think the feelings of past audience members should be the central focus of the conversation (we obviously need to focus on the experiences of the child actors), but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying it out loud either. Feelings are confusing and complicated and it helps to talk about it. Plus, experiencing these feelings and discussing them can help motivate future action.
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And still happening. You don’t hear anyone talking about it or firing the known pedophiles.
A therapist once told me that I was always very mature for my age and with out skipping a beat I accidentally said "thanks its the trauma" which lead to a discussion on my feelings on people being told that they're mature for their age. I told her that in my experience when you say something like that you're almost always complimenting the results of someone's trauma, that a majority of kids and teens aren't just mature beyond their years for no reason. She ended up thanking me and telling me that I brought a very good point to her attention
You are so right. I always was supermature for my age and I never even thought I had trauma but the past year I realized my parents were both emotionally incredibly immature and I mediated between them since very young age. On top of that my dad pushed me to take care of my mom and sister if something happened to him or called me the strongest shoulders etc and expected too much of someone who should have been a child.
Sounds like a decent therapist. 🙂
For those making comments about my old therapist not being great because of one comment they made that's very judgemental. They helped me through a lot of stuff and was generally great.
They made one comment that typically not a whole lot of people think is a problematic comment and picked up on my discomfort masked with humor and broke down my feelings on it with me and apologized, promising to learn from it.
Therapists are humans too, even with training they mess up sometimes. The important thing that makes a good therapist and human is being willing to learn from those mistakes.
This is so true. I was hit by a car when I was 14. I was mentally changed after that and I had an old soul before the accident but it was like a switch flipped. My whole mindset changed. People think I’m older than I am I’m only 19 but I hear it all the time I was born in the wrong generation.
Same. But I never associated it with trauma until this moment.
My older brother died when I was three. He was four.
Tailspin of trauma for the whole family added to minimal parenting skills.
Alyson, thank you.
I was scouted by Disney multiple times as a kid, at 4, 6, and 9. My parents said an emphatic NO each time. They didn't know the full realities of what went on in the industries, but they knew it wasn't good.
I was mad for a while, because I knew I would have been good at. Now I'm so thankful that they knew better. I would have been good at it because I'm a people pleaser. Can you imagine how that would have gone for me?
Every view on these videos is saving kids from this life. This is a truly valuable work you've undertaken.
Idk. Not EVERY child actor has fell off the deep end. There are still plenty whose lives are in tact like KeKe Palmer, Raven Symone and the Oslen Twins! You are not automatically doomed being a child actor and I think a lot has to do with the parents since child actors are dependent on them. Its the parents faults for not protecting their children.
Well said!
@@pieahgee8180 The point isn't to compare which child actors "fell off the deep end" and who didn't. And you also have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, child actors that are still "in tact" now may have gone through tremendous trauma and fought battles we're not privy to. The whole point of this podcast is to analyze how the industry has impacted the lives of child actors, both physically and mentally, and how it's shaped and dictated the majority of entire life experiences, particularly in such important, developmental phases of their lives.
@@pieahgee8180did u even watch this video? she literally addresses ur exact thought process towards the beginning.
@pieahgee8180 LOL the Olsen Twins? One of them was confirmed with ED and pretty sure they both had substance control issues. :(
As someone with a Bachelor's in psychology I love how you brought in Piaget's model to explain the effects of starting acting at various ages. I knew the Olsen twins had started acting as babies, did not know those other people you mentioned had as well. With the Olsen twins I have heard people talk about how their mom had to be kept out of sight from them when they were filming Full House. Especially as babies, this is troubling because we know from attachment theory that the first 18 months of life are the essential time to form a secure bond with a primary caregiver to set oneself up for healthy relationships later in life, as well as help the children feel a sense of safety and security. It makes me wonder how much this process was disrupted for them.
Love this addition on attachment theory. More psych references to come! 🎉 thanks for listening!
It reminds me when Raven Symone said when she would say a joke in real life she would have the reflex to leave the room. She had no real dissociation of acting and leaving cause she started too young too. And didn't stop until she was an adult.
I’ve read that the Olsen twins specifically got the role on Full House because they didn’t cry when their mom left at 6 months old. Which there is a stage at 6 months where the attachment in an infant changes and at that period because they didn’t cry could possibly mean that they were “secure” but the fact that they worked so much throughout their youth still seems unethical to me. And they haven’t said good things about it, saying they were little performer monkeys.
@@hao9508jesus that is so weird
I imagine it was really hard for the Olsen twins to have grown men like Howard Stern sexualizing them when they were only 14.
I’m a trauma therapist specializing in eating disorders, recovery from childhood sexual abuse, and working with highly gifted/sensitive/neurodivergent kids to burnt out adults…this is so, SO important
You are far better off not having to answer to a production company. We have been waiting for a child star to to tackle this critical topic for decades….you could be filming on your iPhone in the public library and everyone will still tune in. I am surprised and thrilled to see the level of thought and research you have incorporated into your talking points. Excellent work, I will be back for the next one!
Also, I know your hands are full with this topic, but thousands of kids are actively being exploited and abused online for billions of dollars. Another vlog mom just got arrested when one of her kids escaped with bone-deep wounds from restraints begging a neighbor for food and water. If you could work their plight (along with reality tv kids like the Gosselins) into your channel somewhere down line, it might help to inspire enough public outrage to finally create some laws to protect these kids. They don’t even have the protections of child actors, and their parents are even more incentivized through millions in sponsorships each year, and no costs.
I am only 10 minutes in and I am already so impressed how well rounded she is in her approach. She is really taking a lot of different viewpoints into consideration and seems to be so level headed and not blaming or pointing fingers in a dramatic fashion. And she promises a solution. I am so stoked to see where this goes. You have my attention.
***they
Alyson goes by them/they.
Pls don't misgender them ❤
She is so well-spoken and thoughtful. I love her voice. It’s soothing and perfect for podcasting.
@@xdani_thethinkingnekoholy fuck yall are weird.
I am so nervous about the effect social media is having on children’s right to privacy. There are an alarming number of channels out there whose main or sole purpose is showing off their kids, and there are zero protections for these kids. The parents profit off of their children like little content creation machines, and the children’s entire childhood is broadcast to the internet to live forever with or without their consent.
There are even instagram accounts that provide special exclusive videos and photoshoots of their children (usually young daughters) in revealing outfits/at the beach, for a price. Who do they think is paying to see photos of young girls in swimsuits? Nice moms? Or do they know there are child predators watching their children but they just don’t care as long as it pays for the lifestyle they want?
Not to mention how some of these channels will include the BIRTH of these children.. so no privacy or private memories from the moment they come out the womb.
Yeah, that’s one of the reasons why I am glad that social media and RUclips did not exist until I was in my teens and my parents still don’t really know how to use them. It is also the reason why I have decided not to post any photos of my baby niece on my social media account even though she is adorable. I don’t necessarily think that all of the people who post pictures of their children on social media are bad parents necessarily, but I do think that they’re not considering how that may affect their children in the future.
exactly and I feel like it's so normalized to put your entire life online, every detail for everyone to see too
I feel the same way 😢
Illinois is the only state that has laws protecting child social media influencers. And that ale was passed last week.
Bodily autonomy is such a huge issue. Tiny humans have opinions about who is okay to touch them as much as others. I remember when my niece was a baby, she would get upset when I hugged her. So I asked her if she preferred that I don't do it, she broke out into a huge grin, and I stopped hugging her. Years later we found out she has autism. She doesn't remember it, but I still think it helped our relationship overall. She and I get along relatively easily, but would we if I had insisted on hugging her?
You’re amazing for treating your niece with love and respect like that🤍 I remember getting so overwhelmed and upset as a small kid at how entitled adults felt to touch me sometimes, both friends and family. Luckily my parents were huge advocates of my boundaries though. We should allow all children to be the sole authority of their bodily autonomy and sovereignty no matter what!
A lot of it stems from the fact that adults do not think children have the right to bodily autonomy since they're under guardianship of say a family member, friend, or employee. Families perpetuate this mindset, because they often say that kids can't dye their hair or cut their hair because their parent owns their bodies. It's as simple as that, and that mindset lingers well into adulthood.
@@klownofkether6996 I would like to say that I am amazingly understanding, but I think the reason I was so understanding is that I felt similarly when I was a kid, and my mother had told me a story of having issues with being touched as an infant (her first memories were of not wanting to be picked up by her aunts). I am also on my journey for adult diagnosis of autism, so I think it was just lucky that I understood that it was important to me and my mother, so how could it not be important to my niece. But thank you for the agreement. Because regardless of why I did the right thing, I strongly believe that we should do better as a society. I lucked out that I had a family that got it earlier than most.
My niece would run away screaming when family came over because she knew that she would be forced to hug everyone. I switched to just saying hello and waving to her, and she would be much more happy to interact with me knowing I wouldn't force bodily contact onto her.
I’m a mental health professional who grew up with the Disney channel. I’ve thought a lot about this subject over the years, as I continued my education and as more people spoke out. I hope this conversation continues and leads to real change.
It’ll be interesting to see what it stirs as more episodes release! Would love to hear your perspective coming from the field.
Alyson - as a child actor myself who worked from the age of 5-17 years old, you have no idea how much this series means to me. Hearing you talk about things you (and I) experienced in the lense of your incredible wisdom, has been more therapeutic and healing than any therapy I have attended. Just THANK YOU and keep shedding light on an industry only us survivors can speak on. Sending you tons of love and support.
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I remember watching Sonny with a Chance, Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly Place, Camp Rock, and basically any other show on Disney Channel as a teen. I had wanted to be like you, I even was dreaming of the day that I would get to be one of the shows. Now as a young adult, I know that aside from the privileges and money, it is one of the worst things that can happen to a child. Thank you for coming forward with this, and finally making a podcast about it. We need to get educated about this topic. Especially at these times where something as "family vloggers" exist.
Exploitation of children should be stopped. Thank you again, Alyson.
This is so insightful. Thanks for sharing your experience and how it shapes your perspective of social media and what’s happening today. There’s a lot to unpack, and we’ll be touching on that in future episodes! Glad to have you here.
How is she soooo good at explaining. So eloquent! Every important point not left behind. So amazing. She must be a trained stoic not fuming in anger after the “new legal team” trying to take advantage. So crazy!
But we are for her! So I think it is even more powerful this way!
I try to give myself time to process and express things personally before recording, so I can focus on presenting the information in a grounded way. Otherwise, sometimes people will dismiss or judge what we say even *more* if it comes across too emotional (“dramatic”), or they’ll take a clip out of context. :/ But it’s certainly all deeply sincere. ❤ And I’m so eager to share more every week. thanks for listening!
I can’t wait for you share more. This is brilliant ❤
I think she has the rare combination of a high IQ AND high EQ, coupled with the ability to see things from a “bird’s eye” view without negating the human aspect of these experiences.
Reminder that Alyson's pronouns are they/them!
@@fifirodriguez52 just a reminder to you sweetie not everyone buys into that nonsense of they them
omg like when people constantly comment on how well Miranda Crosgrove is doing! we have no clue what she’s done or what has been done to her. we have no idea what her life is actually like and to make assumptions whether good or bad is disgusting and irresponsible.
i’m loving this and thank you for speaking so openly about all of this
I am never shocked when young stars spiral out of control. It is an insane amount of pressure on a young mind and too many are expected to be the breadwinners at home when they aren't even adults. I am so glad you're shedding more light to it, hopefully it can be the cornerstone for change
Hi Alyson, former child star here. Love your research. effort, work, clear and empathetic viewpoint on the subject. I’m also very passionate about this. Tried petitioning SAG multiple times about mental health services, policy changes, and putting structures in place to protect child actors to no avail thus far. I think as we gather momentum we can make effective change.
As child stars grow up and become the mainstream you’d think things would change but it seems that many are just brainwashed into repeating the same patterns. It doesn’t seem to be anyone’s priority.
I don’t know if I’m exaggerating the problem but inappropriate stuff seems to be universal. Most of the child stars who came out “ok” are likely just covering for a ton of bullshit. In denial or don’t want to talk about it in public?
As a studio producer just emerging in my career this was invaluable for me to listen to. Thank you all for your art. I’m hopeful that I and my peers can make intentional change as we navigate this industry as the “next generation.” Because I’ll be damned if a project I ever contract for causes pain to children. I’ll quit before that. ❤
I don't understand why the unions and guilds aren't working on this, especially pressuring states to have proper child labor laws.
I remember reading once that “regulations are written in blood.”
Hopefully, your experiences will not be in vain, if you can effect meaningful change for later generations of child actors.
Good luck. 👍🏻
Do you know about child Star and advocate Paul Peterson with A Minor Consideration?
Finally, I feel like you just ripped a bandaid off of my childhood trauma. I was manipulated, groomed, molested, and told I was ugly and fat even when my ribs were sticking out and stopped eating for almost a year. People who do not perform do not want to have this conversation because they want us to continue entertaining them. All I wanted to do was dance and sing. I never wanted all the other stuff.
I’m so so sorry all this happened to you! How are you doing now?
Sending you so much love I’m sorry that happened to you
I’m an attorney and I’m a millennial. I grew up watching the child actors speaking their truth over the last few years. I want to learn more about how I can help, both from my perspective as a legal professional and as someone starting a family. Can’t wait for more episodes!
Question since you're an attorney. Is what that production company did legal? Changing their entire agreement on the last episode and then keeping all the content when she wouldn't say yes?
@@sarahgondosGreat question! It would be great if there was a way out of the restrictions they have placed on her!
I am here as a victim of CSA. Though my personal journey did not include stardom, I realize that child abuse impacts both the rich and the poor similarly. The body keeps the score for all of us.
Hey Alyson, I co-operate a charity organization - Beauty After Bruises - for complex childhood trauma survivors. We are not only extremely proud of, and excited for, the rest of this desperately needed series, if there is anything we can offer you as survivors, or do to partner together to get resources in the hands of those in need, we'd love to do so! Please please please don't hesitate to reach out or let us know a better way to do so! *sending warmth and care* 🌻
I soo hope they reach out - for the benefit of all involved _and_ those just consuming honestly! BAB is such an important, helpful mission! Hopefully more will be inclined to support, too. 💜💙
I have complexPTSD and find I relate to a lot of child stars stories, I really sympathize with them and my heart hurts for the youth they lost. Though my trauma stems from parental abuse & neglect, I find the adult symptoms to be similar. I suffer from chronic pain, joint/muscular/spinal that doctors say is nothing- but I know is from ptsd, and hearing past child stars speak up about their troubles (Miley also coming out saying she suffers from chronic body pain), I can’t help but wish we could all get together and share our experiences to heal and move forward. I haven’t heard about your organization before, but I’m glad i watched this video and found this comment!
Hi, I'm a survivor of horrendous childhood abuse/sexual abuse/narcissist abuse/rape/torture etc ... I'm desperately trying to help others through my story, I started talking about it on here (on my page) but it wasn't really going anywhere, and I ended up stopping because of lack of interest/support from others... Or, perhaps, what I've shared so far has been too graphic for people, so they couldn't handle it... I don't know?
Anyway, my dream is to tell my story, be heard and to help others. I've been through SO much, not to be a benefit to helping other victims and survivors. I have so much more of my story that's not been told yet, but I don't know that anyone cares.
If there is anyway I can be of help, or if you could please help me to get seen/heard... I really want to help others, much like Alyson is. This video was tremendously amazing and I'm so proud of her for doing this! Hopefully it saves children now and in the future.
I used to watch Alyson dancing when she was younger, and thinking (even though I was older than her) "wow, how amazing it must be to be discovered like that and to dance so amazingly, especially being in music videos etc .. I was so envious, of all young stars, because as a child, I desperately wanted to be a movie star, but mostly, a singer. Still do .. haha, but with all the corruption, wow, it's just sickening!
I'm so sorry Alyson, I'm proud of you doing this and I think you are an amazing dancer/ADVOCATE! I'm sorry I was envious of you, and all other child stars, that seemed to have everything, and be loved by everyone. As a people pleaser myself, I'd have been eaten up, I'm sure... Makes me shudder.
If anyone wants to check out my story, please checkout my page, I've got several uploads... If anyone wants to hear more, I'll get back to telling the rest of my story, but, the worst is yet to come... I've barely scratched the service, despite all I've shared.
BAB, I hope you'll reach out to me and that I can be of help somehow... As a survivor of horrendous abuse, I want to be heard too, I want to heal by telling my story, and I want desperately to help others.
Thanks so much! ~ Kimberly ❤
This is so awesome! I’m a researcher that studies the dark side of sport participation, and I can see the parallels between the sport and media environments (lack of bodily autonomy, lack of regulation and protections, long-term impacts of adverse experiences, adult-driven environments, etc.), along with the unique aspects of both. Thoroughly enjoy the thought, time, and effort put into this, and very excited to see where it goes!
Would love to see your research! The parallels are many!
What a cool research topic!!
@katie439 wow, what an incredible area of study. I watched your presentation on your channel and would love to see/read more! I grew up deeply embedded in equestrian sports, so much so that I was homeschooled to allow more time for riding, traveling, competing, and working for my trainers. I can unfortunately relate to many of the themes discussed in Alyson's video as well as yours. I appreciate both of you for bringing these topics into the public sphere in such an accessible, honest, empathetic, and educated way.
Just saw a great two part video called The exploitation in women’s figure skating from a RUclips channel called Fran - many many parallels
@@annieothernamethanks for sharing!
i realized that you have been been in the industry beginning the year that i was born. i have never lived a day in which you were not taking part in the business. and that fact has truly humbled me. i grew up seeing you on my TV through disney channel, cheaper by the dozen, and other avenues. you and your colleagues were placed up for consumption for children like myself - and i don't remember a single person in my life critically thinking about what life was like on and off of these sets. when miley and demi and raven and shia all began to be publically affected by everything they had gone through, my parents were empathetic, but the conversation around pre-teen me was whether or not their actions made them "good role models". it wasn't until the last few years that i began to wonder what life was like for you, and others, away from the camera and E! headlines. i want to call bullshit on the conversation on placing child stars on pedestals, turning them into "role models", and ignoring the ways that the cycle of consumption hurts both the consumed, and the consumer. thank you for this series. i really look forward to learning more.
When you you talking about bottle autonomy that really hit me. Because as an autistic person. We are basically made to feel like our content is not important at a very young age. Meaning people seem to think that they should be able to hug us in touch and come in our bedrooms whenever they feel like and if we get upset about it, we are deemed unfriendly or difficult. And anyone who is autistic I’ll tell you just how I’m comfortable that things can be for us. But no one tells you that you have a voice, and that you can say no if you want to. So I can’t imagine how horrible that would be if you couldn’t even leave your house without that happening and if it was strangers that were constantly coming up to you. Also, when I was young, I took acting classes end went to a Theatre camp and stuff like that, and it was one of the only places I did not get treated differently because of my disability. So it became my safe haven and still is. I bring that up because when I watched Disney Channel and stuff I got as a kid I always assumed that what those kids were doing was just like theater camp or acting class or music class except they were getting paid and it was being shown to the world. I really do feel like there needs to be stricter a child labor laws but also we need to start treating child stars as children first and star is second. And paparazzi should not be allowed to take pictures of them without permission or chase them. In fact, they should not even do that to adults.
I’m a fan and a social scientist. I go through the world in a Black cis-woman’s body and am keenly aware of how I’m received by others for it. I’m here to learn more about your experience and I can’t help but to draw parallels across our experiences even though they’re so different. There’s always a through-line that connects these kinds of things. The manufactured social perceptions and subsequent treatment for them, good and bad. I’m taking mental notes of the similarities to further shape my understanding of the world. Thanks for sharing your story with us.
No, you are just looking at everything through the lens of race.
Nobody is "receiving you" in any covert way because of your race or sexual orientation. You've just been brainwashed to think of the colour of your skin 1st and foremost in any scenario. It's just simply not reality.
Thank you for sharing your vantage point and embodied experience. I’m deeply interested in understanding your experience of the world, as well, so please feel free to share! Social perceptions, constructs, culture.. these keep me up researching at night. Finding how this can translate to deep systems change… that’s the passion!
You are black WOMAN, period,get off the delusion
Boo hoo first world problems 😢
@VUDACRIS what a pleasant person you are. You must light up the lives of those around you!
Examining the neurodivergence of artists in the industry as there is a prevalence there. The masks formed, the advantage people take of them, the social cues and danger signs missed almost by design.
Thank you so much for this series! Child stardom was the life I dreamed of and worked for from the ages of 8-18, and while I neverrrr came anywhere close to the "fame" I desperately sought, "The Industry" was still a damaging experience, physically AND psychologically, and it makes me feel both happy and sad to see the people I looked up to and who inspired me to follow that path, speak up about similar experiences to mine. It feels like we're all in it together. Now at 23, I'm an indie author and currently working on a thriller/mystery novel based on my experience and the experience of countless others who grew up under this regime, designed to be moldable and polite and good little props to the moneymen. I want to be as respectful as possible toward as many different perspectives as possible, and this is indelible, incredible support. I'll be looking for sensitivity betas soon to make sure my story is told with empathy and honesty without being TOO triggering/overwhelming for a traditional audience. I'm afraid it will make people uncomfortable to hear. But it's like you said, we all have a voice of our own. 💜
Feeling emotional reading your words. Thank you for sharing. I honor your experience while you were pursuing the industry in this way. Congratulations on all your growth and expansion since. Love and healing! xx
My first visit to the LA area was in 2015. I was a young and dumb 23 year old with hopes of running into a star whose work I loved. That didn't happen. Second visit was 2021 and that hope was still there, albeit extremely sized down. A cousin who lives in the area is an ASL interpreter who has met their fair share of celebrities because of their line of work. It wasn't until they had started sharing their experiences as an interpreter that it dawned on me that artists are human as well. It really shouldn't have taken me that long to realize this. Since then I've lost the "star struck" effect. Would it still be cool to meet someone whose work I love and admire? Yes. Will my reaction be completely different now compared to what it might have been before that light bulb went off? Also yes. This just solidifies your point of us as content consumers being part of the problem. I can't wait for the next installment. Much love! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
This is profound self-reflection and insight. Thank you for sharing!
I was a bit of a child star, so I really appreciate watching this. I really haven't untangled the full extent of what its done to me, having an acting agent of some kind since I was 6 years old - and it took till the pandemic to start to see not me as a problem or a failure, but to start to see I was set up to fail in a broken system that fills us with empty, nebulous dreams - where some are just able to get further in the Squid Game than others before their inevitable fall. Its next to impossible to succeed in the machine your whole life without being a sociopath or a robot.
Incredibly poignant, honest, and so imperative to talk about. I remember you were advocating for child psychologists and therapists on sets, and it's so important to bring light to these issues. I admire your work in all its facets, and I can't wait to continue to tune in each week! Happy 30th
This is heartbreaking. Also, I am so sorry that company tried to scam you (because that’s what it is), but glad you kept going. Can’t wait for the next episodes!
As someone with a master’s degree in child development, I really enjoyed this! Thank you and looking forward to hearing more episodes.
The way people feel entitled to famous people’s time puts my stomach in a knot.
As a filmmaker and a fan of yours who grew up dancing & hoping ot emulate your career I stand beside you. This is amazing work and just know you've already saved AT LEAST one child.
I am a part of SAG and also public online. I’m concerned about how social media will affect our children. Thank you for sharing and I can’t wait for part 2.
I feel sad that I can't see those interviews, but I'm so glad you decided to still come out with Dear Hollywood.
I've been following you and your interviews with Christy Carlson Romano and Mayim Bialik and have been trying to support this cause however I can. As a social worker practicing psychotherapy with children it devastated me to find out the teachers are your advocates and paid by production. You're right conflict of interest. Also, no mental health professional on site to deal with this intensity of "imagination" or "play" when literally acting out SA or other violence. Even dealing with press and being role models. It's so deep I wish I could do so much more to support the individuals who sacrifice so much in the name of our ignorant entertainment.
It's certainly not the main point of the show, but the show Love on Netflix does a great job of showcasing the conflict of interest set tutors and teachers deal with in terms of production vs. the good of the child. It also helps that its a Judd Apatow production and the child in this case is his daughter. So audiences can feel secure in knowing that the story is being told in a way that protects the child actor being used (one would assume/hope)
Love is absolutely my favorite show netflix has brought forward. It’s criminally underrated and also shows the effects of complex ptsd adult children face when they enter the real world. Both Mickey and Gus came from toxic upbringings and struggle in adulthood to find themselves. I feel like it’s one of the most realistic shows about navigating relationships of all kinds
I've always been intrigued about what child stars have to go through, especially after seeing so many of the stars I grew up with struggling (Amanda Bynes for example). Thank you for putting this series together to get the truth out ❤️ Also unrelated but your hair looks amazing 🤩
lol shaming the viewer into believing its your and my fault that weinstein and epstein and all the other *steins were allowed to continue is a bit of a psyop in itself. very typical though, once youve seen it a few thousand times.
this type of production acts as a distraction from the next layer down, the networks of perpetrators... these videos, like russell brand and joe rogan and the talent contest winner that talked abt freemasonic influence, act to seal off the real network from the inquiring normies
I’m sure many other child stars appreciate how well spoken you are, and how much you were able to verbalize the sheer chaos that fellow child stars went through. this is incredibly powerful.
This is amazingly articulated and the production is 10/10 I’ll be watching every episode 👍🏼
A small, but mighty team! Shout out to Mina and Joseph for bringing this to life with me!
Ok so a lot to unpack in all of this. It was really insightful how you got a diverse group of child actors to compare notes with. It was also good how you are exploring the roots of the toddler to train wreck pipeline and not casting around the usual blame. Lastly it provided good insight as to how we, the fans and public, play a part in robbing child stars of bodily autonomy with the sense of entitlement. The next episode will be very much anticipated and I personally am hoping the snippet from the end of this video was not actual demands you personally received fro said entitled fans.
Side note happy birthday
So glad this resonated and thanks for taking a moment to share what landed. Curious to hear your thoughts as new episodes release!
I’m only halfway into the first episode and can already say you are one of the most well-spoken, articulate, empathetic, and intelligent people I’ve ever listened to. You’re so impressive, Alyson. Can’t wait to listen to the rest!
As someone who grew up with you, like literally growing up, this video has allowed me to go back and think about how desperately I wanted to be where you were. I never went anywhere with it, because at 11 years old when I went to a casting agency I was told I didn’t have the right body shape or size, had too much acne and that braces didn’t “sell well.” Your eloquent delivery of your experiences supported with sound evidence, psychology and research not only gives the younger version of myself a small hug and affirmation that it wasn’t me- it was the people who only viewed children as dollar signs that were determining my worth as a person, but it also ignites a fire within me that wants to support change however I can. Continue to to be the change Alyson. We’re right here with you.
Hearing you speak on this is a big sigh of relief. Growing up I remember my little sister & I were wanting to become kid actors and started with a modeling agency and did auditions and never getting a callback and always hurt that I wouldn’t get to be like the kids on tv. Now hearing this. I am sorry to each and everyone of you. I hope you continue to heal & grow beautifully. ❤️
I am speechless at the legacy you're building. This is vital work you're doing. Incredible to witness.
Amen, I am so moved !
I appreciate the way this is going about bringing attention to a hundred year old problem. Instead of romanticizing or dramatizing the situation, it’s thought provoking and brings a call to action. I’m excited to listen to the rest of the episodes. Thank you Alyson for sharing your story with us.
Hahaha when you said "if you want to keep being ignorant, stop listening", I seriously wanted to stop, because I'm scared to learn about this. But it's vital to do so, at least for me. As an adult who is possibly going to get into acting, these are issues that I really need to know about.
Thank you, Alyson. Seeing you use your influence for something like this is amazing. Big hugs.
Years ago, before all of this really started coming to light, I used to tell people, "We should stop making fun of and calling these individuals crazy and start thinking about what they must have gone through to make them think/feel/act this way." This is so heartbreaking to see, and I pray it all comes to light.
I always pictured childhood stars to be super rich, but I saw one of your videos on Facebook about your car and how it's dying and you've had it for so long and how you've even lived out of your car and that threw me off. I checked out your RUclips, I saw the video where you got your first house and how you've couch hopped. It blew my mind that someone I grew up watching on TV could struggle, and I wondered how many others also struggle. I thought of the writers strike going on right now and how Hollywood is so incredibly toxic and I want to be educated and see if I can help in any way. No child or adult deserves to be put through such horrific things just to produce content. A show isn't worth watching if it's been made while creating trauma for the cast members. Money is not worth the 100+ years of trauma. I've heard some horror stories from other childhood actors, I never realized just how deep it went affecting all of Hollywood and not isolated incidents. It breaks my heart to know the shows that brought me joy had a lot of hidden pain, and my heart goes out to every single one of you because you didn't deserve any of it. I'm so sorry
I dearly love that you led with the conversation about empathy, and how easy it is to lack empathy for people we perceive as rich, or privileged, or powerful. It's so easy to forget that the person we see on screen in the television show, the movie, the music video, the interview -- that's a person. They're a *person* before they're anything else. And like all people, they need care, and affection, and attention, and the room to make mistakes, and the grace to learn from them. I am very much looking forward to the rest of this series!
I mean I can't speak on the Toddler-To-Trainwreck celebrity pipeline. But working with ADULTS in childcare spaces and thinking of some teachers I even had growing up I found it very alarming how much both developmentally and emotionally their stages mirror the youth. You would think leaders, educators, and counselors would be a reflection of upstanding citizens but to contrary belief the corrupt all seem to dwell in similar places. I've seen and experienced so many traumatizing situations (teacher literally threw markers across the room, teacher vaping on school propety, counselors using sexual intimidation) that it made me as young adult transitioning into adulthood decide to pursue social work with an emphasis in clinical psychology to HELP these adults "transitioning" so they can be proper leaders for our adolescence while also being a healer and nurturer to youth because it does start with YOU
Thank you Alyson I know you disappeared but you came back stronger than ever 🧡❤️💖💓🎂🎉🥺🤗
The sad reality is that all of this truth you have just spoken will turn into nothing. There are people who will comment on here how brave you are, how much they care, and will do nothing to support you or make a change. This age of social media is riddled with fake empathy and support.
Alyson, i am captivated by your words. You are such a compelling storyteller and i don't mean with just your words, but also the tenderness and care with which you share your stories. I love that you're not allowing us to just be spectators because lately it can be easy to dissociate and only see things as content to scroll past once the video stops. So I'm very much looking forward to see where I'll be casted in the story of doing something about it all
Love this perspective of participating in the conversation versus being a spectator. We're all connected in this!
so brilliant, and so awful that the first iteration of this podcast succumbed to the same exploitative organizational strategies that it sought to expose, damn… I can tell this is going to teach me so much, and I can’t wait!
My theory has been the lack of laws protecting children, the lack of moral standards across the boards of adults to protect children, the lack of respect for children to be heard when they advocate for themselves, second class little ones who should be seen and not heard until they say action.
I've always wondered this and always get so worried when i see new faces going through this. I can see how much you worked on this and really appreciate putting this together!
Thank you for sharing your experience and talking about such difficult topics.
Your passion brings me to tears. I've been waiting for this podcast for so long! And now we know why! I'm so glad you didn't take that bad deal, good on you! We will be here every step of the way to help create a better world for our children, and all the families watching at home. Audiences need to be accountable just as much as the industry. Respect, love, empathize.
When I was 6 I wanted to start acting. I got recognized by an agent at 7 and went to acting classes until 9. Never knew that my mom was not pushing for an agent and she was not pushing for auditions for me… I now realize, she didn’t want me to be apart of the evil. I appreciate her now for it.
I'm not usually one to comment, but as a millennial parent to a young toddler who has serious concerns about the harmful impacts social media has on children, this video hit home. I was glued to the screen! This is such an important topic and I wish more people could watch this and dig deep about their own choices. My parents were far from perfect, but one thing they deserve all the praise in the world for, is the way they protected my privacy and respected me as a human being growing up. My children deserve to be their true selves and to have agency over their own minds and bodies.
Thanks for talking about this, I've learned a lot.
Thank you for starting this conversation. I grew up constantly going to auditions every weekend and self tapes throughout the week but never “made it to Hollywood” by the time I became 23 I realized the dream of being an actor as a career was not going to happen. Then I started to listen to the child actors I so wanted to be growing up. I just didn’t know what I wanted anymore and I didn’t know what my future was like. Mind you I also had a mom who was a successful model with the top agencies and saw her on shows, so my childhood was auditions for her and watching her on tv as well. So at 23 not knowing who I wanted to be and who I really was. I have great memories of being on set of shows and movies that make me love the job but knowing what “big actors” go through and the push to stay on top as well as the lack of privacy. I also still have my mom tell me “watch what you do people watch us”. It’s just this weird reality of understanding what child stars are talking about without fully going through it. When I was 3 I had an audition for a commercial infront of 20 plus people. I said “stop staring at me” to this day I am not allowed to live it down because I was perfect for the camera and just doing the script like I was suppose to AT THE AGE OF THREE.
That’s such a shame that the original deal for this didn’t work out, but I have so much respect for you for walking away. I hope that the delay in timing of the release of this allows for more people to be open and receptive to your work. Keep up the great work, and thank you for speaking up. ❤
SUCH important work happening!!!! I manifest that you stay on this path and keep spreading awareness!!! We will make change and it all begins with you as the catalyst! We support you every step of the way, Alyson
Happy Birthday, and this feels like the beginning of something groundbreaking, eye-opening, and obviously so incredibly important. Glad to be on this journey between listeners/viewers and everyone opening up about their experiences and perspectives. :D
Happy birthday, Alyson! Thank you for treating us to another video, and for your insightful advice. I'm glad that you're in a better place emotionally now.
So glad this is happening!! I can’t express how excited I am to listen to everyone’s stories. Thank you Alyson for doing this. Hollywood needs it!
I m here cause i always rooted for u and tried to watch every thing u were in since the step up 1. Im so happy u are doing this right now and so sorry bad things happened to u. Sending lov 💗
I can’t wait to hear the rest. I love watching and listening to you speak about this. I know it’s been a long time coming with this. I am proud to say that I stand with you and all you stand for.
So excited to support this, Alyson - been watching you for a LONG time with Disney, etc - THIS is my favorite version of you. Never stop what you’re doing. Don’t let anyone make you or this mission feel small. I can’t wait to see where this goes & support it to my best ability ❤ keep on healing bby 🎉
This is gonna be so exposing and I can't wait.
The message is already so powerful that at ten minutes in I started to tear up.
As a kid growing up at the same time as all of my childhood stars and role models, it is heartbreaking to really understand just how truly evil the media can be.
People tear themselves apart, or worse, others at the expense of.. what? -Nothing good or beneficial for anyone.
I am happy to be here.
Thank you Alyson Stoner,
I'll be watching🤝🖖✌🤟
In full support of you!! We need more stories like this!! Thank you for sharing your experience and sharing the stories of your peers as much as you can 🧡 thank you from the bottom of my heart and soul for doing this. You have no idea how much it truly means. You are so brave and inspiring
So thorough, so thoughtful, so well said. You've got my full attention.
This is just incredible Alyson! As someone who was also in the industry (theater not film) as a young child (around 3-14) I feel like this is something that needs to be said and that something truly does need to change. I can’t imagine anyone else doing this; you are so informed by your own experiences and by your willingness to hear other’s experiences that I this series will truly be something special. Thank you and I can’t wait for the next episode!
I hope more and more people start watching this! Great start to the series and I can't wait to hear more!
I love how this is framed as a conversation with the viewer! Very interested to see more from this series and thank you for sharing.
This was so amazingly done and such an important topic! Almost wished it was all out so I could binge but definitely will be listening to the full series. Keep going and hope you find more projects that fill you with life, joy and love that enrich and don’t take away from your individuality because you are truly such a beautiful, smart, kind and amazing soul!
Well said and done. Cannot wait for the next episode. God speed! Thank you to all the folks who shared their stories. Holding space for those who have been hurt and abused. Hope the light spreads to the right people for change. ❤
I’m here for your story, I grew up a fan and as an adult have struggled with some of the previous issues you and other child stars have mentioned. I find that connection fascinating and I am still a fan of your creative work 👏🏾
I love how dedicated you are to this cause. So proud to see someone I grew up watching and wanting to be like mature into a strong, intelligent, and compassionate human being. I appreciate you doing your research and striving to enact change. I can't wait to hear your input and call to actions. Thank you for fighting for the children of the next generation like someone should have been for you.
So proud of you for sharing so vulnerably and using resources to speak out to make things better for the next generation. I'm here to support in absolutely any way I can
Alyson this is incredible. What you are doing is so important, it's not just exposing, it's giving everyone a voice and discussing how we can change things for the better. ❤ I am so sorry that you got screwed out of using all of your original footage and your hard work, but I am so proud of you for advocating for yourself and your project. It's easy to throw all of Hollywood away as a villain, but it is the moving cogs and gears UNDER the surface that must be explored.
I love the qualitative analysis methods you use in this episode-- identifying themes across experiences-- and the use of Piaget's model to draw a reference guide. I would love to see a paper on this if it hasn't already been studied in this manner. Beautifully done!!!
It's been a joy following your journey since 'knowing'/witnessing your work since Missy. I was so hyped to see a girl about my age doing those huge gigs! Being an adult now, I'm in FULL support of this ongoing awakening, how we can fix this for the future's inevitable young performers. This is very very well said. Dontcha stop!!!!
I’m so excited for this because it’s something people really need to be made aware of and acknowledge so we can create change! Thank you!!
This is an incredible video. The way you presented the stages of child development alongside the child star experience was especially effective and disturbing. Thank you for putting this podcast together!
Thank you for not allowing yourself to be just another number. Thank you for using your intelligence and eloquence to try to start to change the damage to young performers. I am intrigued to learn what knowledge was gained from such a frank and raw collaboration of diverse entertainers, how they would change the system if they had the power to do so. And way to stand on your laurels, even if it meant starting anew and doing this series on your own!
You inspire me to take a stand and speak up for myself. Thank you for bringing awareness to our broken society
I've been a fan of your work and performances most of my life, and (not that you know who I am) but I'm so proud to see you and other beloved child performers coming forward with your stories. What you all went through is horrible and no one should have to experience it, but hopefully we can at least learn from it and make the industry better. Can't wait to see the rest of the series!
Good for you for walking away and not allowing the continued abuse. Everything happens the way it’s meant to and this is already amazing! Looking forward to the new interviews and seeing what you create without the restrictions of that production company ❤
Considering how permeating Hollywood and entertainment has become in our society, I was definitely intrigued by what goes on behind the curtains. But I never thought I’d be so captivated by this introduction. I love that you’re bringing psychology into this and that you’re bringing us into the conversation bc so often we everyday folks forget that even if we do nothing, we’re still part of the system.
So impressively and articulately handled. Thank you for stepping forward and working towards changing the future for others.
Fellow Former here. Thank you for this eloquent video. Those that didn’t grow up in The Biz will have the hardest time understanding.
You are so perfect for podcasting, so well written and delivered!
Alyson, you are an amazing storyteller and this is an important story to tell. I’m very impressed by how well done this is.
So glad you’re giving a voice to this space 💕 Trusting it’s heard by enough people in the right places to make the difference that I can see you hope to make. Beautifully and accessibly shared! Looking forward to what’s to come. :)
You’re truly doing the work that needs to be done! Can’t wait to get your perspective on all of these topics! 🙏🏻
Alyson, you are so well spoken and can explain things so well to where they are easy to understand. I’m so glad you are doing this. #HopingForChange ❤️
Alyson, thank you so much for talking about this. I have completely distanced myself from the fame fascination around Hollywood and have a massive repulsion for it after looking into it for a few years thanks to a few here on RUclips. It goes very deep and it is very, very, VERY disturbing. I am so proud of you for going public despite HW being an enormous, faceless, sickening and dangerous monster with more power that we can fathom. I hope you stay safe. If there's any assholes from HW viewing this video and trying to figure out how to silence her before she starts unraveling your trillion dollar industry, it's too late, we already know. You can not hide everything forever, and so many of us know what is going on. It's just a matter of time before media is forced to no longer cover your asses and turn on you as the public does. Sending so much love to you Alyson, carry on and stay safe 💖
I have a YT channel and I am only doing it for the fun and not for the fame. Fame is overrated
This is so good already! Not just surface level and momentarily entertaining but you're covering all the nuances and small details that we don't think or hear about. Great work, thank you!