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- This is the first episode of our new series, The Disney Channel Machine. In this episode we are going back to the mid 2000s, to the Hit Disney Channel Original Show, The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, starring Ashley Tisdale, Brenda Song, Dylan and Cole Sprouse! Join us as we expose 3 key individuals who were lurking behind the scenes, chronicle the cast's rise to fame, and explore the multiple hardships child stars go through on a daily basis.
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It's crazy how censored this video is. I understand why you're doing it but it really highlights how bad RUclips has gotten. We can't even have a honest discussion about child predators, with RUclips's current regulations for content creators. Maybe that was the whole point. It wasn't to protect kids. It was to protect the bad guys.
Exactly
RUclips likes to pretend they wanna help kids, but truly they want money. Even at the cost of harming the ones they're supposed to be protecting
The internet will never ever be better than OG RUclips. That was true freedom of creativity and press. It will never be the same again.
It would only be age restricted and/or demonetizated if they hadn't.
Eh... I blame youtube bots for directly finding words or someone said in the video. After all, they see what it is, but they don't understand the context. So uh... yah. Blame RUclips bots for what they were designed for, and told to do.
Let's just make one thing really clear. There is no such thing as a "consenting minor". You cannot consent if you are a minor. Not fighting back or outright saying no doesn't equal consent. That's just coercion, manipulation, and grooming.
PREACH!
@Anstapa Solivagus lol no you didn't
Yea, just like the courts defending Epstein and maxwell call young girls abused "child prostitutes" a child is not a prostitute!
In other words, with many predatory people including Brian Peck (good thing Josh Peck is not related to THAT fuck!) of Disney and Nickelodeon, they are dangerous work environments that we must feel good for the Sprouses that they could be free not to work there anymore!
@@matthewpayne411 they said "consenting minors" in the video..
I think it’s insane how Disney is okay with hiring child predators, but punishes child actors live Vanessa Hudgens and Miley Cyrus for pictures.
After Mitchel Musso got a DUI, they would have hired John Wick to kill him if they could. His career still hasn’t recovered, save for the handful of voiceover roles Disney pays him for just to stick their thumb in the bullet hole.
Because that was public knowledge they had to look good ppl didn't know behind the scenes things that went on
You confused. It's called culture creation. They attach kids to these young stars then have those young stars turn into horrible destructive people. Bringing all the fans of them along with them. That's how they pull society into degeneracy.
@@FrankyCooper-hb3bk Dick Wolf, if you haven't done so already, please make a Law & Order: SVU episode based on this.
it's demonic
i'm not exaggerating
and they're not oblivious
Its absolutely absurd that someone can be convicted of 5 FELONY accounts of sex abuse and spend half a year in jail but then a teenager can break into someones house, not harm anyone, and spend 10 years behind bars. Disgusting.
My boyfriend's Mom stole something from her work over a decade ago and she's still suffering for it. She worked at the jewelry store not anywhere important. They paid her like s*** too even though they were making tons of money every day on those overpriced slave diamonds.
Yall don't know the government out to get you and still thinks President gonna make a difference wake up and stop voting
@@zaqueenzhane7744 Its so stupid to stop voting. Especially for congressmen and senators, like that is the only power we have. We got trump out of here bc everyone decided to vote, if all of us had just laid back and didn't do anything then he'd still be president and I'm glad we made sure he's not.
@Victor Ngo idk if you've ever taken a history class but we historically help countries who are being attacked by our enemies. Like we have always done it. I'm broke af like probably way more than you can imagine, and I'm glad we helped them, because THEY were suffering. Like literally, buildings blown up, babies dying, kind of suffering. We are way better off than they were so unless you want to be selfish and let literal children be blown to smithereens by Putin, I suggest you stop.
@@audreybea4013 Check back when Biden with the FBI stop protecting Hunter Biden from stat r@+^ charges.
It’s kind of nuts how my partner is subjected to endless background screenings all to work on a low wage factory line but child predators can just waltz into Disney, get a job & become rich. I hate this world.
That's because you can't get rich and famous unless you're part of their sick agenda. The game isn't rigged, the game was built by them, for them. Ik it sucks, but ppl are waking up, time to put an end to this madness.
And Nickelodeon 🥴 they literally used to have like a comedy training camp for kids, no parents. Amanda bynes went to this camp…can’t imagine what dan schneider and others got away with there 🤮
Dude, for real.
@@effywdnezday6852 exaclty, they’re not gonna hire a whistle blower. You have to play their game to get ahead. Even if you’re not apart of it, you have to keep silent about what’s going on around you, which is just as guilty as doing the act itself. I hope ppl finally realize the elite are the enemy. Laws are made to cater to them because they’re the ones paying the most taxes (money wise not percentage wise). The elite are funding politicians they want in office. They’re also bribing judges, DA’s, and police chiefs on top of having the best lawyers money can buy. Joe Biden was one of the main faces representing the war on drugs, yet his crackhead son never even spent a day in a holding cell.. The law doesn’t pertain to the rich and that’s a huge problem.
Oh I see what u did there👀😭😭
I think one of the reasons why Dylan and Cole were so strong is because they had each other. I would definitely feel stronger with my brother by my side.
i think that definitely played a huge role istg i grew up adoring disney 😭
They had to grow up fast and they did. I hope a happy and joyful adult life for them
Yupp they even said that they think they were able to be more sain is because they had each other
Same
Good point! A lot of these child stars have no one to relate to. Having a brother with the same experience who you can share your thoughts with, who will (hopefully) validate your feelings makes a world of a difference.
All seriousness aside , that
"You forget to cherish her"
Line from Cody was probably the funniest line ever said on a Disney show. Between his delivery and the reaction of mosby, it was just perfect 👌
I chuckled 🤭
During a meet and greet interview for the cast of Riverdale, a fan asked Cole the same question. The crowd erupted when he said the line.
That and “the PRNDL” line are constantly in my head to this day 😂
Eh, its an overrated scene, there were funnier moments
@@jessywest6206 don't be that guy. Go hate on a kids show from the mid 2000s somewhere else lol
As you can tell, Disney Channel is no better (nor worse) than Nickelodeon when it comes to giving many of Hollywood's young actors a dark childhood. Disney Channel has it's own Dan Schneiders too.
@@tyhernandez3069 the absolute truth there, my friend-ish!
Yea back then there wasn’t a way to let the word out like nowadays
@Betobilletes im sorry the actors and actresses had to go through this.
@@Betobilletesthere always been ways to “let the word out”. It’s just this got covered up. Corey Feldman is on camera speaking about this stuff that went on in the 90’s.
@@LionQueenn i know but I said like nowadays. Nowadays you can just go on social media it’s super easy. That’s what I meant.
The fact that Brenda got into Harvard at all,
Much less at SIXTEEN? Wow!!!
From what I read about her, she seems like a great human being. Smart, beautiful and talented woman. I enjoyed her performance in that Netflix movie even if the movie itself was a bit… predictable.
@@matrasia I learned in school it takes a highly intelligent person to play “a ditz” I think she proves that soooo true! I think she’s very special
@@seb61709 Oh absolutely. Remember how Paris Hilton did it in real life?
@@hyldrklein451 I loveee that show! I hate that some people actually think she’s really like that. But how could she be a multi-millionaire with multiple businesses if she was like that irl😭🤣
@@MS-rs6od people assume so because she is a hilton. Don't really have to do much to be a successful hilton.
Cole in every interview looks like he's just so fucking over it. They worked like sled dogs
I know that one Interview Cole got eye bags black eyes.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 source?
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 god. Humans are absolutely reprehensible
yeah he looks tired/over it
I notice Dylan talks in every interview and cole just stands there
2 years later and it comes out that it was drake bell that was assaulted by Brian peck☹️
It's sooo saddd😢😢😢
Honestly the spin off that Dylan and Cole wanted to do sounded AMAZING!!! They could've done so much with it and it makes me so sad that they never got that opportunity 🥺
It was the stupidest idea ever
“A consenting minor” that is literally an oxymoron I can’t.
No minor consents without forceful “persuasion”
@@Someone-sl4zq no minor consents, period. They're a minor.
@@Someone-sl4zq minors cannot consent at all under any circumstances. They're children.
Horrible
In simple terms, even if there is "consent" the consent wouldnt count.
Why are jail sentences so short for these horrible horrible crimes??? Laws needs to change soon. It’s not enough.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Just look at Brittany Spears. She wouldn't have ever made progress if we hadn't stood up for her too. It's the same spirit that can stop these horrific mandates!!!!
They are 10x longer then the House arrest sentence that the man who did this to me and 5 other girls in my community was issued when we all came forward. I think its maybe such a horrible thing that most people dont even want to think about it and so they deal with it quickly and give it very little thought.
Yes. We treat low level drug offenders worse that actual predators. It’s backwards af.
Law enforcement was created to protect people from dangerous people. Not protect ourselves from drugs.
Because the people who make the laws do the same thing.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I feel like they also have special interests to protect perpetrators because it’s always rich men who seem to be the worst ones. They all protect one another because they all have dirt on one another!!’
I remember dreaming about being a Disney star. I would beg my mom to audition for ANYTHING and was very resentful towards her for saying no. Now I’m so grateful she shielded me from all this hell.
I love how these two smart brothers support each other, how the gaslighting doesn't work on two people sitting in the same boat, validating each other's experience, because it's the same. They're like: is this fucked up? - Yes, brother, it is.
So valuable such a bond.
This is why in the military (specifically Atomic Vets) they were told NOT to speak about anything they saw at all, not even each other. So sad
Makes me think that's how Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen both left showbiz at the same time together as well.
I was thinking the same thing. I think it was significant that they had each other to keep them grounded. So very impressed with the way they articulate their thoughts.
It’s disgusting. How is a kid shunned for being harassed but the actual harasser gets to just keep working with kids with barely any punishment?
This is totally sick. Really sick. I had no idea about this. They should all be put in jail.
BC disney only cares about money
Because pedophilia and satanism are common practice in Hollywood. It’s ingrained in their culture
@@VividFilmProductions right and it’s coming to a point that they don’t care if u know some fuck up shit this why I don’t trust nobody around my kids by they self expect my mother
Money is more important then humans apparently. 🤦🏽♀️😔😒
I hate the fact that RUclips censors all every word relating to child abuse so that content creators find it almost impossible to discuss these things. It's almost like they're trying to protect these monsters.
Like the whole entertaining community, the world is full of evil people
They are
They are. They are part of the same circle of elite whom control the world
Yes because the biggest companies own RUclips, they just pay their price to put things under the radar. That's how it works in this world.
They are
The dark circles under the eyes of Dylan and Cole speaks volumes. 😢
Zach and Cody was my favorite show growing up….it warms my heart to know that the actors behind the scene were strong enough to speak out and break free. It’s awful to think of the things they went through to provide us with entertainment.
Jesus this reminded me; this show TAUGHT me what PRINDL meant 😂😩 and I still call it that
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"how do you lose a woman??"
"you forget to cherish her" Lmfaoooo best line ever
They are just naturally comedic 😩
You lose women by cherishing them. They will always view you as beta and leave you for a different man if you love them. Never simp.
@@KingofBeasts444 you probably got left huh 🥲
@@desiraydarko5376 only person I ever loved was my daughter. When she left it was her dying in my arms from cancer. She was still a baby.
@@KingofBeasts444 sorry to hear that but still doesn’t mean women don’t deserve to be cherished bc you’re afraid it’ll make her leave you for another man, that’s a very insecure way to think my friend
Most kids wouldn't have the confidence to confront these adults. But Cole + Dylan did - they were too intelligent, unafraid to stand up for themselves. disney hated that they weren't scared, which = no control. disney felt stupid compared to them - which is proven by the fact they copied their idea, meaning they clearly couldn't come up with anything better. Lol how embarrassing for them, 2 teenagers wrote an entire show better than they could and it pissed them off.
And they really thought those boys would accept their idea thrown back at them as oppose to standing up for themselves and eachother and look at them now!
Who's Disney
@@nadirimyers6643 the sad thing is, many people would just for the opportunity. But the sprouse twins had a lot more pride (not saying it's dumb to do it, cause maybe they'd be wealthier and have more choices later but it's person to person).
I want to believe that working with your brother gave them confidence, they went through the same things, good support system with parents as well.
This explains why there r more girl lead shows then the guys
Phil Lewis absolutely killed it as Moseby. His outbursts were so hilariously delivered.
Yes he is a killer.
@@jessicabrasfield5549everyone has a past and it was an accident, dude clearly made up for it for decades
Imagine trying to drag on one incident for the rest of someone’s life
@@ninjanibba4259that incident ended someone else's life.
@@dangerousboxx666 that happens everyday
@@ninjanibba4259 those responsible shouldn't be held accountable?
knowing now that that child who brian peck SAd was Drake Bell is still so earth shattering to me
It's funny (weird?) how panicked parents were in the '80s and '90s about "stranger danger" and kids being abducted, meanwhile the reality is that most kids get assaulted by someone they know. They really had no clue how to protect us, or even where they actual threat was coming from. I hope we can do better for the next generation by teaching them to not have secrets with any adults, and to have confidence in their bodily autonomy and ability to say no and leave uncomfortable situations .
It’s more that we should teach kids what red flags are and what the flags mean. To watch out. Count flags, count the warning signals that their bodies give them. Children are highly perceptive and we NEED to shape their perception to become accurate and strong. That will be a defining feature of their childhood to help them for the rest of their lives. I know too many people whose senses were dulled by their parents, teachers, peers, etc. and they couldn’t reverse this dulling of their senses. Some people are drug or alcohol abusers and I wish I could help them.
along with of "stranger danger" kids need to be told that if someone tells them not to tell anyone or to not tell their parents to GET OUT and find your parents.
@@robinsonhomestead4745 the sad thing is sometimes Parents don't believe their kids when they do tell them they have been assaulted by someone they know
@@theoutsiderjess4869 exactly this! Parents would expect the worst from strangers but when little kids reveal that an uncle touched them inappropriately so many parents are quick to dismiss it as a lie. Kids have a hard time hiding their emotions, when they are in discomfort because of someone it's easy to tell but many parents choose to ignore obvious signs to protect someone they think they know. We really need to start telling people that a predator can be anyone, even someone that never did anything to you personally, even someone you like.
Also kids have a hard time processing and explaining what happened to them in those situations, but when they really don't like being around some adults that make them uncomfortable in ways they don't quite know how to explain, parents tend to force them to comply and call them rude for not wanting to be touched.
I believe that's also how those predators keep getting jobs in hollywood. Their friends don't take the accusors seriously because "he would never do that", meanwhile any child psychatrists would tell you the child accusing the guy is displaying obvious signs of trauma. People are more willing to believe that a child would deliver an oscar worthy performance and fool everyone, than to admit that adults are far better at lying and manipulating a child and also can have all sorts of sexual perversions.
@@partysuvius It's more like... Adults need to get more educated... These dumb adults taking advantage of power and small children. Sheesh these adults should know better that it's wrong to even be touching or having weird relationships with children
It's not just Disney it's everywhere!! I did child Theatre since I was 5 years old: the director I worked with from the time I was 5-20 is now in jail for over 55 counts of child porography!! It should be common knowledge and our children and Youth deserve to be protected at all times- especially ON SET.
What the hell is up with Show business being involved in Child Molestation? It’s like it’s a requirement to be a pedo in order to have notoriety in that industry.
@@karlitosway7474 because they have easy access to kids since they spend a lot of time filming. It’s disgusting.
@@deannagz5612 true, but damn why can’t it just be normal people? It’s like the job application has it as a requirement to be a sex offender lol.
@@karlitosway7474 honestly, I believe it was created for p3dos that’s why. Sad world we live in.
It is not surprising they would go into jobs that give access to the children.
Watching this after seeing the "quiet on set" documentary, really makes me sad.
It would be interesting to me to see a deep dive on Raven Symone especially because she did reboot with Disney and currently has children on the show.
that AFTER the cosby show
Why? She’s clearly not gone through that much controversy outside the Cheetah Girls, if she’s back with Disney, that’s a choice she made, considering her career took off and then took a break just to come back to Raven after everything, she must have a good relationship with them
And she’s lesbian, wonder what scared her away from men 🙄
Dylan and Cole just look so tired in all of their interviews while working for Disney
Have you ever seen the videos where Lucas Cruikshank talks about filming the show Fred? He says he had to do that for like, an ungodly amount of hours a day. Imagine doing that basically from birth. :(
Granted, Lucas was mostly tired because he literally had to shriek for most of the hours a day.
😢
They looked tired on the show too they always had bags under their eyes especially when they got older
@@dinahfisher thats hereditary that has nothing to do with them being tired, even though they obviously were
@@as-h989 25:34 those bags under the eyes are from sleep deprivation.
I'm blown away by how well adjusted and down to earth Dyan and Cole are. No chip on their shoulder or ego to stroke.
I agree. I bet having a twin (someone so close to you) to go through the trauma of fame as a child was really helpful compared to other young actors who likely feel more alone going through it.
@@MileyCraziness Yeah it probably helped a bit, but Mary Kate and Ashley seemed very affected too so you never know.
Although they're really successful too now
Dylan yes, but Cole No. He has a ego though, don't blame him though he grew up being told that he was the better looking twin😅
Lol check out the story of coles tumblr
Good, involved parenting.
The plot that Dylan and Cole had for the show was really good. I remember my mom telling me about the plot a few years ago.
Knowing what I know today... This makes my heart hurt for every kid here.. also Kudos for saying Esteban's full name 😅
The fucking nerve of Disney Channel; they reject Cole and Dylan's idea, laugh in their face about it, then call them back the following week with the same idea.
Welcome to Hollywood. 🙄👎🏽
that first clip of them being yelled at by that man and the audience was so heartbreaking
Spitting all in their faces. It is like he felt so Big. I really don't know how he still, loved himself after that! I got that "pedo" vibe from it...
he didn’t wanna insult his brother, this grown ass man shouts at him until he does then laughs and insults him. so sad to see them sitting with their heads down like that 😭just children
I never understood grown ass people who felt good and powerful degrading little children and minors. I’m a grown ass person and I have almost 30 nieces and nephews. I fucking WISH somebody would talk to them like that, I’m WAITING on that day. I’m going to jail.
Bro you clowns are uncultured thats chris farley he talks like that in everyones faces. stop being so soft
@@addys8780 yeah I thought he looked familiar was that a skit of his or something
How beautiful that the twins wanted to set there crew mates n fellow actors up in their future because they wanted to go seek theirs - these boys are truly amazing such big hearts intelligent and kept there integraty
My depression has put me on a HUGE kick to ruin my childhood. This shit is the reason...knowing these things and making them public, common knowledge is how changes are implemented. Thank you for the information to back up all the creepy vibes I've always had.
Yes, speaking out about the negative and dangerous behavior needs to be both normalized and encouraged, even if they need to use financial incentives to kick start the movement.
“A grown man and a CONSENTING MINOR” …are you kidding me?! I will NEVER support anything from Disney again. This was a huge eye opener.
Right like no matter how bad I love all those old movies I can’t buy Disney+ again…. They’ve just done too much to harm us 😖😵💫😥
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Time stamp?
@@EbonyHoopGyal lol that’s not gonna stop me from watching, y’all weird
@@MrAjking808 ped0ph!li@ doesn’t stop you from supporting a p3d0ph!liac platform… and we’re weird? Uh ok.
Fast forward to 2021... and family vloggers exploit their own children for clout on RUclips and Instagram instead.
Yessss!!
As long as they do respectful videos I dont mind if kids are in there. Then again we have really sick people abusing or killing their kids on social media and act like its normal. There will always be evil sick people in the world and we just have to do our best to stop those types.
@@shaunah.1165 Who is abusing/killing their kids on social media and pretending it's normal?
@@bathumb45 Daddy of Five, 8 Passengers, the Ace family. Those are the most obvious examples.
@@Ace-cc1em the ace family maybe scumbags but they're not even close to abusing their kids exploiting them yes but they're not the 8 passengers or daddy o five
We should make a part two for Disney Channel, for the ID docu special, "Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV", That episode will be extremely crazy with P3D0 Story!! It will be on ID (Investigation Discovery), and streaming on Max (formerly HBO Max).
The 65 episode rule also has to do with them not wanting to give them a raise as well. Which is why they would give the shows a new title for the 3rd/4th season.
The fact that executives defended a person who sexually assaulted a minor is just disgusting it should be hard for them to get another job especially with child actors
This is a pedo country. The guise of us being a morally grounded country is to make us seem like this great place to other countries. It's all about perception. Facts say, this country is ran and controlled by pedos and sexual offenders
The only consistent consequence of being caught doing things with minors is being put on a list. Basically to make society look at you a way because the justice system surely won't do a thing.
Let you caught with a couple blunts, to jail you go, goodbye job and get ready to have your character questioned especially if you're a parent. Pedos are the only felons who legit get second chances in life. Alot of times even 3rd and 4th chances, 5 to 10 if you're an "important" male.
@@bigyo3385 agreed
@@bigyo3385 the highest levels in our government are involved in this. Sadly it’s been like this for thousands of years and it’s getting worse. It’s not just a Hollywood thing or USA. It’s a world wide secret societies control over the world. Look at your $1 bill and tell me who’s eye that is?
Ask Albert Pike who he worships.
The Masons are just stepping stones into the pyramid of lucifurian occult’s. Ppl think it’s a joke but just research the ped0🍥circle symbol and pizza meaning. You’ll be shocked, it’s always been secretly in scenes for decades. Shows, movies, toys and so on.
It’s normalized and just like Masonic hand symbols it’s subconsciously imprinted in the mind through movies, magazines and just about daily life. So you never question it.
Dylan and Cole are really smart. Too bad the industry doesn’t like smart.
They are both very professional and so well-spoken in their interviews.
I'm glad that they still stand up for themselves even now.
same goes to Alyson Stoner
I agree I admire them for not being taken advantage of or bullied by Disney. They knew what they wanted and weren't going to be steered in a different direction.
They truly don’t!! I love them boys they’re so wholesome. That show gives me such good memories. I’ll never forget that man, “if you can believe, you can achieve!”😂
Just came here after the Nickelodeon documentary
Man, when y'all revealed how many Disney Channel stars got to direct/produce shows after Dylan & Cole were turned down, at first I was rolling my eyes, annoyed at Disney. But then I thought about how awesome it was that Dylan & Cole ended up "paving the way"... all it took was 1 "no" for Disney to realize that future stars should be treated more fairly/respectfully. It may have not been their intention, but it's a good reminder of how powerful a "no" could be.
It's interesting to know that Ashley Tisdale and Brenda song switched parts. Because as an adult I always looked back at that and thought, huh they're really subverting the tropes with those two.
Brenda Song being ditsy really broke a stereotype of Asian women too.
Until Sharpay shallow rich girl at first
I always thought that and looking back on it I think that was a really good decision
And Mr. Moseby a Black man who is highly educated, poised and running a successful hotel. Instead of a Latina maid, they had a Latino bellhop. The redhead waiter with glasses was heavily implied to be gay. Show was pretty diverse for it’s time.
@@witchplease9695 thats what made it great it was good stories that didn't force what they wanted to say
I still call the gear shift a PRNDL 😂😂😂💀💀
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I have changed it for your viewing pleasure sir.
Lmfao this is one of the most iconic lines in Disney History.
Me too lmao
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 me too
Religiously 😭
I cannot even put into words how excited and happy it makes me that you guys have started this platform and wanting to get all of the news out there to people that aren't aware! It makes my heart so happy that you guys are doing this but it also makes me so sad that my favorite people as a kid had to go through this stuff like I just watched your Olsen twins one and I had every movie of them and it just breaks my heart I was a 90s kid I never thought that that happened until I got older so I'm really glad that you guys are putting this out there for educational purposes and letting everyone know what these poor kids had to do and had not one ounce of normalcy in their life. Thank you for all you do! ❤️ Y'all 😀
It's great seeing more people speak about what these kids have gone through. u guys rock, I hope youtube keeps letting you guys post
Dylan and Cole: "we should use the backdoor"
Disney: "that's stupid"
Also Disney "we should use the backdoor"
Dylan and Cole: "Good, thinking Disney"
Disney:"ikr, I'm so glad I thought of it"
*Laugthing in the background intensifies*
I can't believe Dylan and Cole Sprouse learned how to use jedi mind tricks on Disney before Disney even purchased Star Wars!
I am personally impressed at how well Dylan and Cole turned out after their Disney days. So many child stars turn to drugs and alcohol abuse and Dylan and Cole never did. The Jonas Brother's were in a very difficult position when they came to Disney. They were just getting their careers as artists going, whereas,, Dylan and Cole have been stars since infancy. So, I understand their fear of saying no. They were afraid their careers would just end.
I'd imagine that throughout everything, they still had each other. Having one close bond and person you can depend on is a world of difference from having no one. Plus, actor twins are probably harder to come across to it probably made them a little less replaceable than the average popular Disney tween.
@@nicolasnamed -
I agree, though sadly things are vastly different for the Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen twins.
And Zendaya, look at her back then, look at her now. An Enmy, one of the first black women (ik She's birracial but still part black) in win it.
@@ClaudetteVioletta she is biracial
@@nicolasnamed a
This is literally one of my favorite channels. I’ve binge watched so many videos this last week.
It crazy how I used to be Super glued on TV watching these series and loving each and every episode never knowing that behind the Curtains these guys were struggling 😢😢😢
the fact that brian peck was a mirror for a rich teen girl and his role was to tell her how good she looked…seems like disney knew full and well and that it’s all just a slap in the face
Yeah that "come closer" scene is horrifying knowing it
@@AnneliesDeroy Or “step inside me” 😅🤮
Oh god, this is bad. Every line he said in that one less then 1min clip was awkward and kind of creeped me out. I’m honestly surprised I didn’t loose my appetite. 🤢🤮
That freaked me out so much!!
@@Petitlavieve ikr, this was awful. To think that I was actually planning on watching the show on Disney+ last year, ever since finding out the true nature of this series, I honestly wouldn’t get anywhere near this show without feeling bad. I never actually watched the show and I don’t regret it at all.
I don't get why so many people think Cole has an ego issue. He just seems very intelligent and sure of himself and his opinions. Nothing he said in this video was wrong in the slightest.
He’s been a douchebag several times and made bad points online but when confronted about it instead of prank he’s like “it’s just a social experiment bro!!”
Edit: still getting notifs from this even though it’s months old and like a lot of the points were on tumblr were they not and even if it was a serious experiment no one is taking that seriously because tumblr is home to such beautiful posts as reylo crepe, transgender hatsune miku binder thomas Jefferson, Alexandria genesis, down with cis bus, acephobe warm milk, bone stealing witch, asexual nicki minaj moodboard, and oppa homeless style if you go to say toilet water ass takes on there ironically or “as an experiment” expect the website to hate you or point and laugh 💀
Wasnt that Dylan?
People would say everything is ego these days
@@jorgevazquez1262 lol, yeah. It's like people can't be confident without being called egotistic.
@@abrielle13 Why didn't you challenge what the other guy said? You only responded to the guy agreeing with you. That's what's wrong with society today. One of.
Cole and Dylan have some serious potential. They have the intelligence and work ethic to really excel in whatever they choose to do.
I’m so glad I found this channel. Please never stop
I wish they would've approved the last season of Suite Life the way Dylan & Cole wanted. That show would've been great for the fans who grew up alongside them it's really disrespectful how they stole their idea and tried to pitch it to them again.
@Zachary Foster same with Netflix I think.
We really need a deep dive into Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen! There is so much to unwrap with their up bringing and their manager Robert Thorne.
Edit: 2/14/2022 I did see they made a deep dive on them I watched it. It was pretty good. I am thinking of making my own deep dive that goes a little deeper and focuses more on Robert Thornes role.
YES PLEASE!
Ooh, I just watched one by Julia boateng! The things those two girls went through breaks me
Omg yes!!!!!!
Yep i would watch that
True
I just wanna say I discovered your channel a couple days ago and I just finished all your videos, oficially, im a fan of deep dive, thank u so much for the effort and research needed to make this videos possibles!!!! Hugs from Venezuela
Watching this after the HBO MAX documentary is crazy 💀 & Finding out it was Drake Bell😢
Bella Throne in an interview said she got abused by Disney and everyone just shrugged it off
IDK what's comin' next.
_but not almost of the child stars though experiencing it_
No it was by a family member
People dont care about others anymore. But Jesus will be back soon.
@@theymockedjesusalso Amen brother and God bless 😇✝️🇮🇱✝️🛐✝️🙏😇✝️🙏😇✝️
This makes me respect Elijah Wood mom so much she didn't let her son out of her sight and let him be alone with adults who would take advantage of him.
Amazing!
so lucky he still managed to have an awesome career despite that. most whose moms actually protect them wind up getting pushed aside by the meatgrinder in favor of easier targets
One of the only moms who deserves her showbiz kid
Also the parents of Emily Osment along with her older brother they protected them too. But they are very rare cases like these ones because the majority of parents expose their children for money and fame without caring about their well being.
Chloe Grace Moretz older brother also protected his sister when someone asked her to use provocative clothing to a producer she was like 15 or 16 at the time it was disgusting thank god her brother was there.
Man, listening to 2 of my favorite childhood actors speaking wisdom and being so insightful. With Dylan talking about the way they handled leaving Disney and then listening to Cole talk about why it’s such a privilege to do what they did and to also make sure that it’s important to take breaks to gather relational depth is just awesome. It’s heart warming to know that not all of my childhood heroes turned out to be divas or nutjobs. So cool to hear them speak. I think A lot of it has to do with them being so fortunate to have each other. To keep each other grounded and support one another. So cool.
I feel like Dylan and Cole got a very good run in Disney, and it kind of sucks that they look down on other child stars who ended up treated worse, or who had bad/weak management. They were established actors by the time they got their show, which put them in a good position, and they clearly had a decent team and were taught how to advocate for themselves. A lot of these disney stars are managed by desperate parents who force their kids into it and bend to every whim.
The Jonas Brothers were far more valuable as a massive boyband/acting trio, and therefore were far more controlled than the twins.
Dylan and Cole never had to contend with creeps leaking their private pictures, or sexualization, or scandal over how much skin they might show like the girls on Disney did.
Its easy to say 'you can say no' when you're willing to lose everything, and actually have people on your team to support you.
Damn the way cole put it at the end, child actors not being able have real stories to tell because they are not experiencing real situations which makes them lost. Dylan and Cole are legends for laughing in Disney’s face and doing what they want to do. Also their idea for their next suite life show after the boat seemed insanely perfect to me considering their age at the time.
as well as myle cyrus
Agreed with boy y’all. Miley did what she had to do and left
The part when the guy was yelling at and insulting them made me feel really sad :(
Honestly tho who was that guy? What interview was it? I couldn't find it.
I felt so bad for them. They were so sweet trying to stand up to each other until they got bullied into saying shit they didn't want to say. 😭
@@iamwooth1729 ikr? I couldn't figure out if it was a skit or a serious interview but that felt way to raw and real to be a skit
:( poor kids that dude looked 50 and was picking on what 5 to 7 year olds at the time? Made me really sad 😔
That was from Mad TV its a skit show
Yeah, I'm sick of being ahead of my time. I've been saying this for a decade. Disney is a sick brainwashing channel for pedophiles and so is most of Hollywood
@@renegademade6384 I agree with what you said, but being aware of abuse in Hollywood doesn’t really make you ahead of your time. Millions of people also knew this
I found this channel today and have been in a binge of like 7 episodes since !!!! keep up the content, loving it!!!!
Bro this shit hits different after you knew it was drake 😢
Cole and Dylan came up with the best idea to wrap up the suite life series. It was interesting and considerate to the fans and thier co-workers.
They say it's about the rest of the cast and crew but then cancel the whole thing when they don't get producer credit..
They were down to listen to Disney's pitch, but they had the shameless audacity to throw the twins' own pitch that they had previously offered to their face after they almost laughed at them and decided it was a no. Extremely disrespectful. They were done with them.
@@dagfinissocool I mean at the same time they wanted some money from it, wouldn’t you? Lmao.
@@dagfinissocool well they should have gotten producer credit, considering the idea was theirs
@@dagfinissocool weren't they moving the show to the other side of the country ? they were going to replace the crew anyway
I think Cole Sprouse is just too smart for Disney. That's why he can say "no", etc. He knows his self worth.
Even Aly and AJ Michalka had a fall out with them. The young artists just wanted their due credit and control over their own image and private life. Disney said No. The girls also said *No* too. There is an interview here on YT of them talking about how Disney and their publicist/manager treated them. I highly recommended.
I admire him going into archeology so much, what a great profession! I wish I could do that.
I can't believe how corrupt the entertainment industry can be. To know that a child star would need to give up their career just to come forward about being sexually abused and traumatised. Yet the predator is more than capable of keeping their career and even getting more roles with children. Sometimes the world just makes no sense.
When I was a kid I dreamed about being a Disney star. Now with things like this coming out it was probably for the best it never happened.
My worst fear is how some of these Disney stars would envy people like us for having normal childhoods
@@personahearts358 some?
GOD Saved You!!
Guy who changed his name and moved to Canada should be outted he shouldn't be able to hide and live among unknowing people
Canada has a natural filter, the meese have gotten him by now.
I don't know why tf they allow these type of people to just change their names like that, no,they are not the ones deserving protection, the people who will be living and cohabitating near them are the ones needing this protection and they should know what he did, there's already so many stories about these type of people changing their names and doing the ssme shit, but no one getd them at first cause they don't know shit about them.
A guy in my city got out of prison 3 weeks ago and raped 2 girls already and is back inside. They never change.
bro I’m from Canada too like
@@troyhubbler9874 That's messed up, now more people suffer, he should've never been out.
Listening to this now knowing the child actor is Drake Bell makes me even more sad & mad
My mom took me to a modeling agency place when i was about 7 years old. I remember it being something I was interested in, my mom wasn't making me go.
As soon as we got there, this older guy gave me a tiny leotard to change into.
He wanted to see how I (my body) looked, when I felt almost naked. I was so uncomfortable, i refused to walk out wearing it.
To this day, i cant get over how inappropriate it felt... The first time "meeting" me and they wanted to see how my body looked as a 7 year old.
“Consenting minor”?! I about lost my mind when Nathan Forrest Winters said Disney said that about Silva
yeah like bitch THERE AINT NO SUCH THING
Minors CANT CONSENT, that excuse was disgusting
@@stupidass69420 Eh, careful with that. Truth or not, it tends to piss minors off quite a lot. I've known minors who got so sick of hearing that, they would literally get violent.
And it's a weird damned situation when a 14 year old is trying to take a lamp to an adult's head. Like, how the hell do you defend yourself in that situation? You look bad no matter what.
Well they use it for vaccines now in canada
@@TimedRevolver What does that have to do with anything?
Ok. I can't believe there is only 43 comments on this vid. this video is literally a DOCUMENTARY. you two are absolutely astounding creator's.
The comments were off last night when I started watching it.
If you haven’t watched their other content I highly recommend it! Their free Britney series is the gold standard of free Britney docs.
@@charonstormborn8998 Seriously, it's so much better than that Netflix garbage "doc". I only saw parts of the Hulu one (not in the US), so I can't really say it's better than that one, but from what I've heard they covered the same info.
Agreed!!!
RIGHT?!? The fact that when I knew Dylan And come 15 years ago, and Josh preyed on my best friend and denied representing me because I wasn’t attractive for Disney is starting to sink in after watching this video I feel kind of shocked but also, if you look at my RUclips, nothing really shocks me anymore out here in the valley
The amount of anticipation you created in the first minute or so was meeeaaan
Keep doing these type of videos just found you and suscribed! Didn’t knew some things and now binge wstching every video
I always associate Disney with greed, shallowness and insincerity. These horrific crimes actually don't surprise me.
disney revamped new york city. it used to be a slum and it became a tourist trap. new york city as we know it really has disney’s business tactics written all over it
You forgot perverted and satanic… also look into the subliminal messages they put in the cartoons
The worst thing with the predatory behavior is that it's not just Disney, it's all of Hollywood
Even worse, it's disney, government, politicians and hollywood. Sick of this world. I want out!
@@leogirltaken It's even worse. It's your neighbor
Even worse, it's you.
Even worse, it’s your dog
"And worst of all, he could be any one of us. He could be in this very room! He could be you! He could be me! He could even be…"
I love these videos. I grew up during this era of Disney Channel and these clips/stories are bringing back so many memories from my childhood. The nostalgia is real (and now i feel kind of old 😅). You've earned another subscriber! 👌🏻
And I feel like an embryo. I’ve been watching too many videos discussing of things that mostly millennials/gen x know about lol
Today is the day I found out Drake Bell was said child..
yeah it’s terrible i just watched the documentary and when they said disney channel i was curious what else has happened
I’ve always been anti-Disney. If you study the history and practices of Disney, all of it is quite disturbing.
It’s weird as hell when people look at superhero movies and shit and say “just let disney buy it”
@@chrispoland3637 If you're talking about FOX, it's because they've been pretty ass at making movies, and people want to see those characters get something good, even if it means being under Disney.
It's very disturbing. Look up the story of Bobby Driscoll - one of the first big stars to come out of Disney. They did him so wrong. He ended up overdosing on drugs and was buried in a pauper's grave because no one came to identify his body. Very sad. They've had harmful practices from the very beginning.
study where???
Well all people have to do is look at the Disney logo and you will see 666 in it! It's in the letter D the I and the Y
I was a victim of a pedophile ring in southern California when I was in first grade in the Orange county area. I was an innocent little boy so I didn't know it was wrong, so it didn't come to light until 2 years later when me and thousands of other childrens photos were discovered in a sting operation. That whole area of California is a hot bed for these people. It's absolutely evil and I hope all the kids involved turned out okay like me. It's crazy to think it's been more than 20 years already.
@Michelle A little but nothing too traumatic. I suppose that's for the best. I do remember it happened to all of us in an after school program.
It’s every large metropolitan area in every single country. Many countries use their state-run foster care systems to supply victims to pedophile rings from what I’ve gathered.
I’m glad you’re doing well today and I’m sorry this happened to you.
@@RevertedRashidah It was happening in after school programs in Orange County. The sick part is none of us ever got any compensation from the state and it didn't get any news coverage or anything. Swept under the rug.
That is sad and disgusting. So sorry that happened to you.🙏🙏
Not just California
When Brenda Song was talking about not being Jackie Chan or Jet Li, she was speaking about Wendy Wu: Homecoming Warrior, not the Suite Life. She was referring to them as martial artists, not exclusively Asian American.
Thank you for speaking this amazing storyline. It touches so many important points.
I hate it when people say to is pedos is that they "serve their time in prison and paid for the consequences" like first of all it's not the same thing as someone robbing a bank or smth like these disgusting people are literally traumatizing children and are gonna keep doing it after they got out of prison
It's a lifetime sentence for that child. Offender should receive the same
I agree...there's no rehabilitation for them.
when it comes to child molestation/rape charges, it's much harder to convict. According to the Shreveport Times, The conviction rate according to some estimates is around 45-50%, and experts cite multiple reasons for the disparities in sentencing and conviction rates.
One is that young children often are difficult witnesses because they include "fantastical" elements in their testimonies or they cannot give detailed, accurate information to investigators, said Dr. Sharon Cooper.
Cooper, a forensic pediatrician who has provided expert testimony in more than 300 cases involving internet and child sexual abuse crimes, also said that forensic interviews of children may not show any physical evidence of abuse, as many children wait years to disclose.
Contrast that with child pornography cases, where the conviction rate is close to 100%, because there is clear and concrete evidence in the form of the photo on the PC.
@@Ace-cc1em This is not one of those cases. One of these rat bastards plead guilty and still only received 16 months in jail. Hard to convict my ass
It’s like yeah they served their time however they should never get to work with kids again. If they want to direct for adult shows fine but no just a slap on the wrist and don’t do it again bud okay? :)
I remember wanting to act sooo bad back when these shows were filmed and I’m so glad I never did because my mom said no. Now with all the information coming to light as I’m older it breaks my heart to hear everything that really went down. Sending strength and love to all survivors.
Same
SAME !!!!! I even had an audition lined up but we didn’t go ! I couldn’t imagine ANY of it now
I loved these shows but im happy that I never wanted to act I thought it was too difficult as a kid and thought Hollywood was evil at a young age
Right when being broke asf pays off. Same here!
@@dollsNcats omg really? For what show.??
It’s wild watching this now and knowing Drake Bell was the one Brian was abusing at Nickelodeon. I hate this industry
Gosh you guys are SUPER underrated. I hope you continue to post amazing content like this and grow in subscribers. You’re already one of my favorite YT channels and I watch a ton of commentary/documentary vids. Selfishly I want you to post more 😆 but please be healthy mentally if you do that! Seriously keep up the good work. You’ll grow even more soon. 🤍
The fact that there isn’t a thorough background check done on every single on employee getting hired to work with children is so evil. These people are in an extremely entangled web protecting dangerous people and putting other vulnerable minors in dangerous working environments.
That’s with any industry. Child predators always work around children. This country is built for the MEN elite
They stick together. Hollywood is an all pedo predator industry.
@@valenne bollywood is bad too 😣
@@jesuslover5968 bollywood has creepy people too 😣
So is Tamil Kollywood and various others.
The debate between how easy it is to say “no” to producers really intrigued me because it definitely reflects on who these child actors turned into. I think Dylan was right that anyone can just say no if they don’t want to do something, but the problem was a lot of disney channel stars felt owned by the company, almost stockholmed into staying loyal. that’s why we see so many disney channel stars have a flop era, because after leaving the channel they had to cope with the emotional trauma of what working for disney is really like. Actors like bella thorne, miley cyrus, and demi lovato brand themselves with themes of drugs and sex in an unhealthy effort to separate themselves from the “innocence” of children’s programming as much as possible. The difference between the sprouse twins and the various other child actors was the presence of support in their lives during their career. it’s super obvious that cole and dylan were very close as twins and posed as anchors to each other throughout their childhood, but other actors, especially those with controlling families such as the jonas brothers were forced to blindly listen to any adults’ bidding at an age where they couldn’t distinguish good treatment from bad treatment. I find it really disappointing that young actors are actively not taught how to care for their wellbeing and identify when enough is enough, meanwhile being completely neglected by their families as theyre obviously using them as a moneymaking machine. There should definitely be some sort of protocol that requires a third-party advisor and emotional counselor on sets with minors on it who can explain things like contracts in order to finally give child actors the power of choice over their own lives
I completely agree with everything you said. I also want to add how incredibly disheartening it was to hear Cole and Dylan speak as if everyone is given the same privilege as they were, even though support and the right to say no should be the bare minimum.
Support is definitely the difference. Not just being close with each other, but (not done w the video so IDK if im about to be proven wrong) but I always got the impression that despite their parents putting them in the business, their parents were also supportive and assured them in many things.
A lot of child stars having a solid/healthy to a close relationship with their parents can be the defining factor in how they fare.
@@Starburst514 i wanted to make that point too but i honestly don’t know anything about their parents so i didn’t want to be wrong.
Exactly this!!
So, the Jonas Brother's were NOT mistreated by their family at all. They were and are a very tight unit. Their issues were about being very new to the industry and terrified of saying no out of fear that it would be over before it started. The Jonas Brother's number one focus was living their dreams. Money had nothing to do with it. They WERE broke at one time, but that never got them down and the parents NEVER forced them to work to earn money for the family.
15:47 Drake Bell 😔
I still call the gear shift PRNDL💀💀
“How do you lose a woman??”
“You forget to cherish her”
Gotta admit, that line got me good 🤣
I love how nickelodeon 's foot logo is like a silent admission to Dan Schneiders child feet obsession
Wait.. WHAT!??
@@cutiesweaterpaws lol just noticed it kinda sounded like I actually "love" how they did that. Maybe I love how it helps expose him is what I shouldof said lol
He definitely took advantage of how children think feet are a generally funny thing to joke with
@@mochaest1994 Oh, okay. Thanks for the explanation.
What? 👀🤯 didn’t he make so many shows?!
Crazy to see this years later.. and that she said the anonymous star was probably out of work. And he ended up being on nick for years after. Drake is so strong for that I’m so proud he was able to get that man arrested and still held a career
This was really cool and informative, thank you.