@proxywolf2006 which is very emblematic of the overall problem. Shockwave was slapped all over the marketing as if he were the movie's big bad, when in reality he was just there to hide the Sentinel twist.
Bay really wasted almost every bot in the entire franchise, except Megatron, Optimus prime, and bumblebee. And those three are the absolute bare minimum.
Not true. Shockwave is the whole reason the movie is even possible. He manipulates Prime in the beginning by getting him to catch onto the fact humans are lying to him, Shockwave controls the Driller which is essential to Megatron's plan, and Shockwave is the one who held off the Autobots the longest in the end. He didn't do much but what little he did had a MASSIVE impact on the story.
Which actually makes him even worse. Because he will do ANYTHING to preserve cybertron under his control. Like destroying an entire universe, to use it as near-eternal power source.
bay basically makes almost every decepticon dark gray af just to emphasize who is evil, while the autobots have a very diverse colorful patterns, kinda defies the logic of them being in the same race
The majority of vehicles on earth are white/gray/black The base colour for metal is gray I thought you guys cared about the “robots in disguise” element
@@orhandalegend it's not about "RoBoTs In DiSgUiSe", it's about "More than meets the eye". And what you said about "the majority of vehicles on earth is grey/white/black". BS, I've seen a lot more colorful cars in life then in Bayverse.
I think Driller being a native Cybertronian creature was a dumbass idea, I think it should have been the amalgamation of several failed experiments from Shockwave’s past. In that context, Driller is about a couple, hundred dead or still living Cybertronians that Shockwave merged into Driller and gave the end result a spark.
I think of it as the Driller. Shockwave created it (like Predaking in TFP) and it not being native to Cybertron and it's creation was to help turn the tide against the Autobots. (Im not trying to disagree with you and i like the take on the Driller's origin 😎👍)
virgin dotm (movie)Shockwave -only lives for 1min Chad dofm (the game/comics) Shockwave -actually threatening decepticon assassin -has an actual back story -could have nearly killed Optimus
@@Jae-DM only TFP did, i don’t remember any other shockwave throwing hands w anyone, TFA Shockwave straight up assasinated U.M so that doesn’t really count, he was a spy there. Also shouldnt we include Driller as Shockwave’s actions? He is his pet after all.
@@orhandalegend G1 shockwave had a few fights the ones I remember the most was his shot out against the female Autobots and when he brainwashed sparkplug and fought against jet fire, bee, wheeljack, brawn, and trailbraker
The Bayverse's biggest problem is treating Decepticons as monsters, not as characters. They have no personality, little dialogue other than snarls and growls, and are quickly and unceremoniously killed left and right by the Autobots or military. In the first film Blackout, Brawl and Bonecrusher don't even speak, in the second the Constructicons are just an army of numerous clones, in the third they are just unscanned generic protoforms and in the fourth they're entirely non-sentient KSI drones. The fifth movie almost felt like they were going to give the Decepticons more character with a Suicide Squad-esque treatment...and then they're all wiped out within 10 minutes.
@@jasonvazquez8652 that's debatable when they're easier to take down in rotf and dotm compared to the 07 film and even then they would be threatening if they had personalities to go along with their executions.
So the problem is that Decepticons are ACTUALLY EVIL and get punished for killing people? The Bay films were going for a more realistic interpretation of Transformers, as in Decepticons who are LITERALLY Space Nazis, are trying to take over/destroy Earth, actually get what's coming to them. Every other TF media other than the comics is rated PG, Bayverse was the first time Transformers ever became PG-13. So having a more evil interpretation of Decepticons that are more Insect/Animal like while the Autobots were way lore human like was not only something new, but FRESH for the franchise. Do I want all of Transformers media to be like the Bay Films? Hell nah I don't, but I wouldn't want the Bay Films to be the exact same as every other Transformers Show. That's my take, take it or leave it.
@@Kaiju-bm4ts well, they did keep there numbers up while the humans where attacking tho. Also just wanna point out that wheeljacks weapons are the things they used, they still need the autobots
I personally believe that Shockwave was added to DOTM solely to be a red herring and make the audience think that he is going to be the main villain and not Sentinel
That's actually true, Shockwave was originally intended to be the villain of dotm and was hyped up to being the villain to hide the fact sentinel was the one pulling the strings
@@westiewave i’d argue he was one of the 3 Main Antagonists of the Film, including Sentinel and Megatron, without Shockwave the Movie wouldn’t have even happened
@@westiewave i’d slightly argue against that too, i mean whilst we don’t SEE him doing Scientific work, we do have proof that he is, his big ass Driller-Bot that’s been customized for Military Use, Shockwave even added a Piloting Seat to Maneuver with it, probably one of the main reasons we don’t see him much throughout the film since he’s always hiding underground with it, but i do agree it would’ve been nice to see him doing stuff with it on screen
To think he was intended to be Dark of The Moon’s main antagonist (thanks to all the advertising and tie-ins predating it)… they should’ve at least made him the secondary with more screen time. 😤
@yachtmasterr9605 I know that the DOTM Game was a prequel to the film that explained how Shockwave was the mastermind behind the plot. But it still would've been nice if he showed up a bit more.
Shockwave should've been reserved for Extinction replacing Lockdown. A lone soldier with all sorts of devices and experimental weapons, collecting unique and special artifacts/people and working for his own agenda.
You actually made me realize an important point: over the course of the entiiiire film, none of the other decepticon leaders discuss with Shockwave about any of the plans or goals or whatever.
Because its his plan, and has been from the start? He steals the chenobyl mcguffin, which causes the government to release the information about what they found on the moon, that being sentinel and the pillars, the deceptcons end goal. So Optimus rushes to sentinel, to bring him back to earth, where the decepticons long standing (made during the WFC) plan with sentinel coming to fruition, having the pillars come to earth without a fight, right under the autobots nose. They already know what they are doing, they dont need to discuss it
@@yachtmasterr9605 Well the issue in there is that, as we can see in the video, people will rightfully not be sure if he actually was involved in this plot at all, especially considering his lack of any actual dialogue.
I think everyone who hate Bay Shockwave should watch Blotzwave's video on him. It's actually really well made and has alot of good points on how he is a good Shockwave
I did enjoy the video, but unfortunately the man is spitting headcannon. If the "Shockwave's Magnum Opus" was true, it would have been explained by the movie itself, to some extent. It was, in fact, not explained. Besides, that theory sets a reasonably good plot, which is something Bay's writers are not capable of doing.
It's kinda sad how Bayverse Shockwave was used a bait for the actual villian that was Sentinel. In retrospect, it made for an interesting and rather well executed twist, but at the cost of Shockwave being with practicality, no presence. Which is a shame, considering his design is probably my favorite of the lot. He looks rather jagged and ancient compared to the other bots and also very menacing. Also, your idea of Shockwave "upgrading" the cons with animalistic features for the sake of strength at the cost of their sanity is downright brilliant
4:45 I'm sure he legitimately wanted to. But in order to do that, the animation of the bots would've had to be VERY DOWNGRADED in order for that to be remotely possible. Each of these characters in the films have limited screentime for a reason, it's because they simply didn't have enough time nor budget to do so.
@@kennythetrend3688 Yes, so much so, my first time watching this movie was marked by me not even caring about the "random ahh cyclops", just the big noodle. I get your point, but it's like saying Predaking in TFP would compensate if Shockwave didn't have screentime there.
@@Silverauren Not really. TFP was a 3 Season Show. DOTM was a 2 and a half hour movie. That's only 5 EPISODES of TF Prime. So I don't think there is any fair comparison to be had there. Plus, Bumblebee Movie Shockwave had EVEN LESS, yet you didn't hear people say that it was so little of time that they didn't even care about him at all.
2:15 If you played the DOTM Game, you would know he actually is LITERALLY THE ENTIRE REASON why the film happens. He lured Optimus and NEST to find the engine of the Ark, and let Optimus cut off his Driller's arm so it looked like he was getting away. That then set up for Optimus and Ratchet going to the Moon to find both the Ark and Sentinel. They revive Sentinel, and that's when the plan Megatron and Sentinel made back in the war started to come into fruition. Shockwave isn't in the film much, but everything he does is calculated and planned out. Is he explicitly a genius or said to be the one who planned this all in the film? No, but the seeds and evidence in tie-in media are there to show that he was a lot smarter than people who only watch this film and nothing else gives him credit for.
It was Megatron’s plan from the beginning, Shockwave was just following Megatron’s orders. It wasn’t like Shockwave found Sentinel on the moon himself. I wouldn’t say everything he does is calculated and planned out some of it was but not all of it and calculating is sort of a stretch
Ok sure a game added context that made shockwave a better character but the majority of the people who watched dark of the moon haven’t played that and he is still a bad character in the movie and additions made after the fact don’t really change that
@delsordokid913 And guess what? JobbyTheHong from my knowledge only watched the 86 Film, yet he sucks G1 off while he dunks on the Bay Films despite for at least the longest time, not watching 95% of G1. So he doesn't know much about G1 Shockwave either, yet still likes the character. Was DOTM Shockwave limited to screentime? Of course, but Shockwave HAS ALWAYS been limited for screentime, even in G1. So as someone who likes the character of Shockwave, the ONLY REAL REASON DOTM is last, is because he's in 1 Film, compared to multiple other versions that while limited in screentime/pages, has SEVERAL episodes and different plots they're in. So regardless, not a fair comparison. You can say you don't like him due to his design being too busy, or not transforming at all, because he had limited screentime when he was heavily in the advertising, and even if you don't like the fact he speaks Cybertronian instead of English. But in my opinion, unless it's any character from the first movie that lived/showed up for 3 films like Ironhide, Bumblebee, Optimus, Megatron, Starscream, Barricade, or Ratchet. You can't even come close to having a fair comparison with any other iterations that were in Shows, Video Games, or Comics. That's my opinion at least, and my opinion is that this is the best version of Shockwave, merely due to how intimidating and big of a threat he was, even if he would dissappear for long periods of time in the film.
0:38 Sorry, no you ain’t! Hasbro didn’t have the trademark for Shockwave at that time, so they had to make a slight alteration to his name. He’s a Shockwave.
2:55 Most designs from DOTM were directly inspired by Animated. It's why Soundwave is short and stocky, Sentinel being in the film, and Shockwave having his canon on his right arm are all from Animated.
@@thevilereviews7812 He didn't for most of it. But skip to 21:15 on this compilation of his scenes. He does have it on his right arm. ruclips.net/video/YSt8_y4t96Q/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I see, this is a little different I feel. It kinda counts but it doesn’t. It is a gun on his arm but it’s not really a gun arm if that makes sense. But I was making a joke I honestly don’t care what arm is canon is on or if he even has one
1:14 I'm sure someone mentioned this already, but according to the continuation plans for Season 4 and that one script reading "The Return of Blurr", Blurr comes back-Sari, wanting to be more familiar with her Cybertron root, takes a field trip to the Metroplex, and after a series of events stumbles down the same compactor chute. Since she has residual AllSpask energy, she revived him, but he was still stuck as a cube. Shortly after taking care of the Kremzeek situation, Cliffjumpee takes Cube Blurr with him to the Stunticons' show, and then later Optimus and Jazz use the AllSpark Matrix to fully restore Blurr's body... then shifting into the Japanese Legends comic's epilogue, his final scene is confronting Shockwave at his prison cell, indicating that the Return of Blurr script most likely occurred in the Japanese continuity.
@@yachtmasterr9605 what can't I ? He gave his and I gave mine so what's the problem or is it only an opinion when somebody kisses your chocolate factory I'll tell you what if you stay out of it next time maybe your opinion will matter a little bit more lil bro.
Shockwave/Shockblast being an unhinged murderer is actually kind of authentic. The original Marvel Shockwave would frequently have violent outbursts and only acted calm and logical when he was in full control of the situation. Sunbow and Animated were the only "docile" versions of the character, but they're also the most popular
Shockblast just is a Shockwave. Its like saying IDW G1 tankor isn't an Octane, or prime Trailcutter isn't a Trailbreaker. Shockblast also had a hilarious rivalry with Tidalwave.
“He’s not a scientist and he doesn’t preform experiments!” Meanwhile the giant robot worm monster that he tamed and modified so that he could ride around in all without damaging the overall mobility of it. “It’s dumb that he doesn’t have much screen time!” Yeah cause transformers have always been super well animated, there are a lot of them, and it costs tons of money. “Shockwave does nothing in this movie!” He literally causes the movie to happen. “The cannon should be on his left arm!” That was a design trait carried over from TF animated
1) There’s no concrete evidence that he’s a scientist or that he modified the driller. Taming the Driller doesn’t make him a scientist it makes him an animal tamer. 2) If money is such an issue leave it animated. “It cost a lot of money” isn’t an excuse because Transformers doesn’t have to be live action. 3) “Literally causes the movie to happen” is a bit of a stretch. He executes a plan constructed by Megatron. Technically Megatron causes the movie to happen because it’s his plan not Shockwave’s. Shockwave just did what Megatron wanted. 4) The canon bit was a joke. I don’t really care what arm it’s on or if he even has one.
1, so do you just think that the driller just so happened to have a cockpit inside of it that perfectly fit shockwave inside it? 2, you are right, transformers doesn’t have to be in live action, but by the time dark of the moon went into production the series had already had two live action movies so it would be weird if DOTM was animated, and also I don’t mind it because to me it gives shockwave this boogie man affect. 3, There is no proof of Megatron having anything to do with the plan to with finding out about the ark, Megatron has been on the down low and still healing from ROTF, Starscream is incompetent, Soundwave has nothing to do with leadership, and the Fallen was dead, only someone with the brains of shockwave could calculate such a plan. And 4, sorry about that, it’s just that I’ve actually met some people who go on rants because they don’t like the fact that the right arm has the cannon. But pretty much all I’m trying to say is that yes, if you pay attention to shockwave in this film, he is a good adaptation, to be fair it’s not very clear but he does have a lot of the key aspects of a shockwave(also just to add on, shockwave has always been a character with not a lot of screen time compared to the others, so I think that it’s fair that he doesn’t also)
@@thevilereviews7812and one more thing, this guys actually pretty strong, he took multiple shots from the Autobots and military that crippled other decepticons, he had his eye knocked out, he had a huge chunk of his side ripped out, and he still didn’t give in! Also about the parachute, it’s not like shockwave was stupid and didn’t know how to get it off, it’s the fact that it was tangled all around his horn things and was being shot at from all sides, so I think he has a good excuse to why he couldn’t get it off
And I know I’ve already commented a couple times so this will be the last one until you reply, but there’s a really good video by this guy named Blotzwave and he made a forty minute video explaining how shockwave a good in this movie
@Geekformer 1) I think Michael Bay wanted there to be a cockpit on the driller because it looks cool. I truly don’t think he put that much thought into characterization because in all of the BTS videos he mostly talks about how an epic fight scene or character design was constructed. 2. The movies do no service to the characters if the only reason why the Transformers that we came to see are pushed to the background is because of money or because “we just absolutely need a sequel”. And that excuse doesn’t negate the fact that the character is heavily underutilized. In fact it’s even more proof that the character is underutilized. They should’ve just rebooted with a movie more like Transformers One after ROTF. 3. There’s so much proof that it was his plan. In the conversation in the desert he says “you did me great honor tracking that ship to the moon. Sentinel literally says “We were never going to win the war. For the sake of our planet’s survival a deal had to be made with Megatron. Then again in DC right before Sentinel opened the portal Starscream says “My master such a brilliant scheme. So when Sentinel left Cybertron it was to defect.” To which Megatron told Starscream “he was meant to rendezvous here on Earth before fate way laid us both. In order to revive him we needed Prime and his Matrix” to which Starscream replies “Excellent strategy”. All of this heavily implies that the plan was Megatron’s from the very beginning. Him being injured doesn’t negate the fact that he and Sentinel came up with this plan millions of years ago but because he was offline he had to come up with a plan to revive him. Shockwave played a small part in that plan.
He has so much potential and yet he's just a another canon fodder in the movie. Just another "oh no look a big bad guy" He didn't have a proper fight with Optimus Prime. Just imagine we have an actual fight between Shockwave and Optimus Prime in the movie that would be so awesome!
Imho, the best looking shockwave, but with the worst characterisation. W video. But I think Shatter Glass Optimus is even more evil than any version of Shockwave
@@yachtmasterr9605 Soundwave is quite communicative of his participation, which is important to show to the audience that he matters to the plot. Shockwave, however... you've seen the video.
One Shockwave is a good contender for the seat tbh. He is just whiny all the time we don't have the cold calculating scientist, just his design is a good factor really, at least Bay kept him as the guy that has a big monster
He has alot of character. Its just in his actions, as with alot of decepticons. As with soundwave in ROTF, he had a genius plan, stealing the chenobyl mcguffin to get the auto bots to overreact to bring sentinel back to earth, and get the pillars to where they wanted them.
@@dylanburston7453Shockblast is an insane manic and war criminal who escapes prison killing a bunch of autobot soldiers. He goes on to have a hilarious and iconic veef with the chad Tidalwave. In the end, Shockblast betrays megatron absorbing some of unicrons power and growing to a monstrous size. He almost defeated megatron if it weren't for the mental strain that was caused by the transformation.
That's why Bayverse Shockwave is actually Shockblast in my head canon. Let me explain, there was a deleted concept of there actually being multiple Shockwave clones on the Chicago battlefield. It got deleted due to time and budget. So I like to image that he's actually just a Shockwave clone called Shockblast, and the real Shockwave is dead so he's trying to take his place. One idea I have that should be in future Transformers projects is Shockwave is the same Shockwave but he has a brother or clone called *Shockblast.* Shockblast is equal to Shockwave in all forms of raw physical power but he's nowhere as smart. He has Shockwave's black and grey "Galactic Man" color, along with the red eye. He could also maybe have his cannon arm on the right side instead of the left side, and it'll maybe be bigger than Shockwave's. But then again, the difference in color and use of his destructive Bayverse personality mights be good enough. *Why fix an already good idea if it doesn't need much fixing?*
This video has the best argument in how Shockwave should've been portrayed in DotM. I do think there's something poetic about his death with how his one eye was the main weakness. That should've stayed, but the build-up should've been more detailed and menacing.
Didn't he deliberately set off important plot points every time he was on screen though? See the video called "You're wrong about him" with THAT Shockwave on the thumbnail. You'd be as surprised as I was.
Thay video changed my whole view on the movie. Plus he's not ment to be the main villain of the film. So I'm not mad about that. That video really did a lot of explaining and help people understand the character of that shockwave. It's definitely an amazing ahockwave.
I’ve seen his video before and I wasn’t convinced. Most of his points were based off speculation. Great video though. And I don’t think Shockwave was that integral to the plot exactly. It wasn’t his plan to do anything in Dark of the Moon. That was all Megatron. His importance to the plot boils down to looking menacing and fighting Optimus.
@@thevilereviews7812 still the story was meant to have shock wave as the villain only to charge it up. Even then shockwave did his job well while megatron is recovering. A lot of the plan didn't need explanation to us.
The plan was explained well in the movie but Shockwave didn’t have a hand in constructing the plan only executing a small part of the plan at the beginning of the movie. And I guess you could say he did a good job pretending to steal the engine part but that’s about it.
@@thevilereviews7812 yeah and based around the plot of the movie and the plan of decepticons. What use would shockwave be needed for that isn't scientific uses? Oh right a genuine fucking threat. Something shockwave is good at being. When megatron isn't available or around for it. Plus not all of the plan needed to be explain to us. So the speculation holds up for what amount of time we have on the characters and the plot of the film. So truthfully shockwave isn't waisted. He's only the worst because he's not your definition of shockwave.
Michael Bay always loved having the military guys assist killing the big Decepticons... Well, maybe that wasn't his call, these movies were funded by the US military, so I guess they'd want to force things like that so little kids watching movie would like to join the army.
I did see a video that defended this version of Shockwave, but I still agree that this version could’ve benefited from some of the stuff you mentioned, and if Shockwave was allowed to have more screen time. And sure these movies are expensive, but my answer is simple. Allow the merchandise to promote the film longer to make more money to work on the movie. And don’t put as much money into putting the details into background Decepticons that nobody cares about.
*Looks Blotzwave's Shockwave video:* *Looks at this Shockwave video:* “Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.” Edit: Okay chaps, this ain't Twitter, calm down in the replies.
In terms of design I'm sure he's a contender in that field for best. Although him being left handed i think was a nice touch because it just makes him more unique. I do agree was heavily wasted. Even though he and Optimus never fought the fact that he intimidates Optimus and is the only character bayverse Optimus didn't confront head on and waited till he was vulnerable says a lot. Yeah it's not enough to compensate but it's what we got. Blotzwaves video was heavy speculation and doesn't justify him being used well
I swear to god, the editing makes it look like Shockwave and Optimus had a bigger fight in Chernobyl, but it got cut out of the movie. Like there is a moment Shockwave rises out of the worm, Optimus takes a battle stance, and then it awkwardly cuts to humans rising up, the worm leaving and that's it. Feels like there is a bit missing there. Be it dialogue or a fight.
What i would have done is make him a Mr X type villain. While the autobots are on the run, Sentinel and Megatron send Shockwave to hunt them down. Throughout the movie theyd be constantly chased, always fearing he'll pop up randomly. Take it a step further during that one scene where theyre hiding in the hills, Hound refuses to join in and keeps watch as hes beyond paranoid. And yes id have a few instances where Shockwave finds them and claims an autobot or two and feeds them to his worm like construction. Problem id make is shockwave is just too much for the autobots. Even Optimus in the opening said hes scared of him. Make it to where even with teamwork, shockwave is too powerful so the only choice is RUN. In the end, id make him defeated by Wheelie and his friend ramming that giant spaceship into him, causing the worm to go haywire and shut down where it falls on the portal opener tower
Funnily enough, Shockblast/Hot Shot actually ARE Shockwave/Bumblebee. The names were changed due to licensing problems the American and Japanese companies had going on at the time the Unicron trilogy was made. I always thought Hot Shot was supposed to be Hot Rod, but it is obvious that Shockblact is supposed to be Shockwave. In Japan, Shockwave is called Laserwave, which is what Shockblast is called in the sub of Energon.
How do you know he put it there? Just because he came out of it? What if someone else made that or it came like that? We don’t know, the movie doesn’t elaborate on that
@@thevilereviews7812 Because the movie didn't NEED to, we all know Shockwave is like this with experimenting on creatures and considering that thing only answers to Shockwave and noone else it's pretty safe to assume HE did
WE know who Shockwave is but the general audience (who make up majority of ticket sales) have no idea who Shockwave is. They’re gonna look at Shockwave and go “ooo big scary robot with worm monster” and that’s it. They won’t even remember his name. Sure it’s a small detail but the movie can elaborate on the “improvements” Shockwave made to it.
I honestly like your vision for bayverse shockwave especially about why decepticons look insectoid or animalistic because when you think about it there is no reason why a majority decepticons have sharp teeth and jagged edges all over their body meanwhile the autobots look humanoid
You should watch Blotzwave's video on shockwave called "You're wrong about shockwave" although it's kind of a fanfic, it made me like this shockwave way more, and now I will be getting the Baiwei shockwave for christmas
Maybe he is, but I appreciate that Transformers One at least tried tl do something different with him instead of copy pasting his personality and lore from G1
5:00 He was getting shot at with bullets from not just humans, but from the Wreckers off screen. Yet he kept going when his eye was dangling from his face. He also NEARLY hit Optimus perfectly in the chest, and if it wasn't for Optimus diving over it, he would've actually taken down Prime right then and there.
I think Bayverse cgi was so good, so expensive they really cant do much with the other transformers. But really they coulve just said "oh, shockwave did those"
I hope the Transformers One universe expands upon him because I kind of hated that he mostly talks when Elita punched his eye. Still, at least he talked unlike Bayverse.
Bayverse didn't talk in English cause that would've been stupid for him to do. They talked in Cybertronian so that the humans wouldn't know what they're planning.
1:09 I know in Idw shockwave is responsible for nearly ending the universe twice but I’d say overlord is more evil. While Overlord never did anything to the same scale as shockwave, the delight in every kill he performs, having fun torturing fort max, G9, it feels so much more personal. He’s truly a monster.
If you only watch the film, that is. If you played the tie-in game, which was a prequel, it actually explains not only his role in the game, but in the film as well. Dude is the reason why the entire plot happens.
bay was given the power to use some of the best characters in fiction and decided not only to make them near unrecognizable, but also waste them or make them dogass generic monsters
Bayverse Shocwave had more screentime fighting Optimus in the Burger King ad than in the actual movie. Think about that
At least he had a great score
Because the choreography is sentinels fight with prime to avoid the betrayal
@proxywolf2006 which is very emblematic of the overall problem. Shockwave was slapped all over the marketing as if he were the movie's big bad, when in reality he was just there to hide the Sentinel twist.
This is literally not true
@keslerjenkins9683 in the movie OP approached Shockwave, punched him with fist spikes, then ripped his eye out. That's the whole fight
Bay really wasted almost every bot in the entire franchise, except Megatron, Optimus prime, and bumblebee. And those three are the absolute bare minimum.
Megatron is up there considering he doesn't do much after the 1st movie and maybe in rotf
@@grimthereaper2069 yeah, especially in the last knight.
I dunno, Megatron was pretty wasted after the first film.
Even in the first film he didn’t do much
I disagree
Bayverse Shockwave literally only exists to give Optimus a miniboss to kill before the final fight
I mean...ain't that what he's ALWAYS been outside of comics?
Not true. Shockwave is the whole reason the movie is even possible. He manipulates Prime in the beginning by getting him to catch onto the fact humans are lying to him, Shockwave controls the Driller which is essential to Megatron's plan, and Shockwave is the one who held off the Autobots the longest in the end.
He didn't do much but what little he did had a MASSIVE impact on the story.
He was supposed to be the main antagonist, originally.
@@BlankEmporiumthat's all head canon without actual proof
@@death-nm7hr It's literally in the movie. Just watch it.
1:34 In some adaptations it's not even out of enjoyment. He's completely incapable of emotion. He does only what he finds most logical.
He was senator Shockwave
I’d like an adaptation that challenges his emotions and morality.
Which actually makes him even worse. Because he will do ANYTHING to preserve cybertron under his control. Like destroying an entire universe, to use it as near-eternal power source.
Sucks that Shockwave was so waisted in DOTM cuz his design is actually pretty good for a Bayformer
I love his design. He is badass
He should’ve been the main antagonist in one of the films, not playing third fiddle in DOTM.
@@Dragoon1809Wepll he was supposed to be.
WAISTED?
Wdym for a bayformer, he did justice for every character considering there Minecraft ahh look in g1
bay basically makes almost every decepticon dark gray af just to emphasize who is evil, while the autobots have a very diverse colorful patterns, kinda defies the logic of them being in the same race
the decepticons have some color like look at the construticons, brawl, onslaught and mohawk
@@hadijahali-abutazil8487 And they're the only examples. Constructicons we only get to see in that finale battle in ROTF.
The majority of vehicles on earth are white/gray/black
The base colour for metal is gray
I thought you guys cared about the “robots in disguise” element
@@orhandalegend it's not about "RoBoTs In DiSgUiSe", it's about "More than meets the eye". And what you said about "the majority of vehicles on earth is grey/white/black". BS, I've seen a lot more colorful cars in life then in Bayverse.
The Decepticons primarily choose to stick with Cybertronian alt modes.
Real based and logical
Bayverse shockwave was just yet another wasted character
In the movie? A little bit. But in the tie in media for the movie? He was AMAZING.
i disagree, he played what he was for in the movie pretty well
@@yachtmasterr9605 didn’t kill a single autobot or even put up a good fight
I think Driller being a native Cybertronian creature was a dumbass idea, I think it should have been the amalgamation of several failed experiments from Shockwave’s past. In that context, Driller is about a couple, hundred dead or still living Cybertronians that Shockwave merged into Driller and gave the end result a spark.
I think of it as the Driller. Shockwave created it (like Predaking in TFP) and it not being native to Cybertron and it's creation was to help turn the tide against the Autobots. (Im not trying to disagree with you and i like the take on the Driller's origin 😎👍)
Isn’t Predaking a clone of a native Cybertronian Predacon, just like Skylynx and Darksteel?
@oliverbaksvensson1919 yes but I'm just saying that Shockwave created the Driller to turn the tide of the war
@@Militaryband684 Yeah, he definitely did.
I Really Dig The Idea Of The Driller As Shockwave's Magnum Opus
virgin dotm (movie)Shockwave
-only lives for 1min
Chad dofm (the game/comics) Shockwave
-actually threatening decepticon assassin
-has an actual back story
-could have nearly killed Optimus
What is dofm?
@@farizr.batarai8271 sorry I meant dotm(dark of the moon)
@@ChrisWillem-vl9nv ah i see
It’s crazy how consistent Shockwave looks in every version. Especially compared to Soundwave.
The one big eye makes him so recognizable.
The sad part is that shockwave has less screen time than this video
Shockwave never had alot of screentime in any iteration % wise
@@orhandalegend yeah but at least he had some fights and dialogue
@@Jae-DM only TFP did, i don’t remember any other shockwave throwing hands w anyone, TFA Shockwave straight up assasinated U.M so that doesn’t really count, he was a spy there.
Also shouldnt we include Driller as Shockwave’s actions? He is his pet after all.
@orhandalegend Shockwave fought Ratchet with Ultra Magnus’s hammer in TFA
@@orhandalegend G1 shockwave had a few fights the ones I remember the most was his shot out against the female Autobots and when he brainwashed sparkplug and fought against jet fire, bee, wheeljack, brawn, and trailbraker
The Bayverse's biggest problem is treating Decepticons as monsters, not as characters.
They have no personality, little dialogue other than snarls and growls, and are quickly and unceremoniously killed left and right by the Autobots or military. In the first film Blackout, Brawl and Bonecrusher don't even speak, in the second the Constructicons are just an army of numerous clones, in the third they are just unscanned generic protoforms and in the fourth they're entirely non-sentient KSI drones.
The fifth movie almost felt like they were going to give the Decepticons more character with a Suicide Squad-esque treatment...and then they're all wiped out within 10 minutes.
At least the Decepticons were terrifying and treated as actual threats in the first three movies. After that, they were basically just jokes.
@@jasonvazquez8652 that's debatable when they're easier to take down in rotf and dotm compared to the 07 film and even then they would be threatening if they had personalities to go along with their executions.
So the problem is that Decepticons are ACTUALLY EVIL and get punished for killing people? The Bay films were going for a more realistic interpretation of Transformers, as in Decepticons who are LITERALLY Space Nazis, are trying to take over/destroy Earth, actually get what's coming to them. Every other TF media other than the comics is rated PG, Bayverse was the first time Transformers ever became PG-13. So having a more evil interpretation of Decepticons that are more Insect/Animal like while the Autobots were way lore human like was not only something new, but FRESH for the franchise. Do I want all of Transformers media to be like the Bay Films? Hell nah I don't, but I wouldn't want the Bay Films to be the exact same as every other Transformers Show. That's my take, take it or leave it.
I am fine with that, we have people saying that optimus is a war criminal for brutally killing decepticons. Imagine if them had a personality
@@Kaiju-bm4ts well, they did keep there numbers up while the humans where attacking tho. Also just wanna point out that wheeljacks weapons are the things they used, they still need the autobots
You actually gave shockwave more character without putting any effort. Respect!
I personally believe that Shockwave was added to DOTM solely to be a red herring and make the audience think that he is going to be the main villain and not Sentinel
That's actually true, Shockwave was originally intended to be the villain of dotm and was hyped up to being the villain to hide the fact sentinel was the one pulling the strings
@@Kaiju-bm4ts yeah that's basically all that he was worth in the eyes of Michael Bay
@@westiewave i’d argue he was one of the 3 Main Antagonists of the Film, including Sentinel and Megatron, without Shockwave the Movie wouldn’t have even happened
@@yachtmasterr9605 maybe, but compared to his other interpretations this one is pretty poor. Like he isn't even a scientist, he's just an assasin
@@westiewave i’d slightly argue against that too, i mean whilst we don’t SEE him doing Scientific work, we do have proof that he is, his big ass Driller-Bot that’s been customized for Military Use, Shockwave even added a Piloting Seat to Maneuver with it, probably one of the main reasons we don’t see him much throughout the film since he’s always hiding underground with it, but i do agree it would’ve been nice to see him doing stuff with it on screen
To think he was intended to be Dark of The Moon’s main antagonist (thanks to all the advertising and tie-ins predating it)… they should’ve at least made him the secondary with more screen time. 😤
They did that so they didn't spoil Sentinel being the main villain. But I do agree he needed a little bit more relevance in the story.
@@kennythetrend3688he was the reason the third movie even happened
@yachtmasterr9605 I know that the DOTM Game was a prequel to the film that explained how Shockwave was the mastermind behind the plot. But it still would've been nice if he showed up a bit more.
Shockwave should've been reserved for Extinction replacing Lockdown. A lone soldier with all sorts of devices and experimental weapons, collecting unique and special artifacts/people and working for his own agenda.
I didn't even know/remember bayverse Shockwave was Shockwave. That tells you everything you need to know, right there.
He's the first version of Shockwave I think of cause I barely remember the G1 version. That's everything you need to know right there.
@@kennythetrend3688 You know... touché salesman 😆
@@kennythetrend3688
I think of tfp and G1 and I couldn't even follow when I heard Shockwave was Shockwave in bayverse
Ur blind then
@MihajloNastic I don't know how.
Dude was marketed everywhere for the film, AND was the only GIANT Decepticon with a monoeye AND A GIANT GUN ARM.
You actually made me realize an important point: over the course of the entiiiire film, none of the other decepticon leaders discuss with Shockwave about any of the plans or goals or whatever.
Because its his plan, and has been from the start? He steals the chenobyl mcguffin, which causes the government to release the information about what they found on the moon, that being sentinel and the pillars, the deceptcons end goal. So Optimus rushes to sentinel, to bring him back to earth, where the decepticons long standing (made during the WFC) plan with sentinel coming to fruition, having the pillars come to earth without a fight, right under the autobots nose.
They already know what they are doing, they dont need to discuss it
they didn’t necessarily need to, the plans were already planned out years prior, Shockwave just set it into Motion in the beginning of DOTM
@@yachtmasterr9605 Well the issue in there is that, as we can see in the video, people will rightfully not be sure if he actually was involved in this plot at all, especially considering his lack of any actual dialogue.
I think everyone who hate Bay Shockwave should watch Blotzwave's video on him. It's actually really well made and has alot of good points on how he is a good Shockwave
Nah, mostly grasping at straws I like shockwave but driller outshined him in the movie. That's how boring shockwave was
I did enjoy the video, but unfortunately the man is spitting headcannon. If the "Shockwave's Magnum Opus" was true, it would have been explained by the movie itself, to some extent. It was, in fact, not explained.
Besides, that theory sets a reasonably good plot, which is something Bay's writers are not capable of doing.
@@SilveraurenHe explained that "headcannon" thing in his Soundwave video.
Now that we watched this, ket's watch Blotzwave's "Your wrong about him" Video
It's kinda sad how Bayverse Shockwave was used a bait for the actual villian that was Sentinel. In retrospect, it made for an interesting and rather well executed twist, but at the cost of Shockwave being with practicality, no presence.
Which is a shame, considering his design is probably my favorite of the lot. He looks rather jagged and ancient compared to the other bots and also very menacing.
Also, your idea of Shockwave "upgrading" the cons with animalistic features for the sake of strength at the cost of their sanity is downright brilliant
That’s the Fall of Cybertron plot.
Funny that this Video comes out a few months after the "your erong about him" Video from Blotzwave
Bayverse Shockwave had a amazing disign but he is wasted
4:45 I'm sure he legitimately wanted to. But in order to do that, the animation of the bots would've had to be VERY DOWNGRADED in order for that to be remotely possible. Each of these characters in the films have limited screentime for a reason, it's because they simply didn't have enough time nor budget to do so.
I mean Soundwave sure had a good role and screen time, could've cut some other parts for Shockwave, adding 5 minutes or so wouldn't be impossible
@@theblaze2294 The Driller Bot in my opinion, counts as Shockwave's screentime because it was his creation that caused the most damage and havoc.
@@kennythetrend3688 Yes, so much so, my first time watching this movie was marked by me not even caring about the "random ahh cyclops", just the big noodle. I get your point, but it's like saying Predaking in TFP would compensate if Shockwave didn't have screentime there.
@@Silverauren Not really. TFP was a 3 Season Show. DOTM was a 2 and a half hour movie. That's only 5 EPISODES of TF Prime. So I don't think there is any fair comparison to be had there. Plus, Bumblebee Movie Shockwave had EVEN LESS, yet you didn't hear people say that it was so little of time that they didn't even care about him at all.
2:15 If you played the DOTM Game, you would know he actually is LITERALLY THE ENTIRE REASON why the film happens. He lured Optimus and NEST to find the engine of the Ark, and let Optimus cut off his Driller's arm so it looked like he was getting away. That then set up for Optimus and Ratchet going to the Moon to find both the Ark and Sentinel. They revive Sentinel, and that's when the plan Megatron and Sentinel made back in the war started to come into fruition. Shockwave isn't in the film much, but everything he does is calculated and planned out. Is he explicitly a genius or said to be the one who planned this all in the film? No, but the seeds and evidence in tie-in media are there to show that he was a lot smarter than people who only watch this film and nothing else gives him credit for.
It was Megatron’s plan from the beginning, Shockwave was just following Megatron’s orders. It wasn’t like Shockwave found Sentinel on the moon himself. I wouldn’t say everything he does is calculated and planned out some of it was but not all of it and calculating is sort of a stretch
Ok sure a game added context that made shockwave a better character but the majority of the people who watched dark of the moon haven’t played that and he is still a bad character in the movie and additions made after the fact don’t really change that
@delsordokid913 And guess what? JobbyTheHong from my knowledge only watched the 86 Film, yet he sucks G1 off while he dunks on the Bay Films despite for at least the longest time, not watching 95% of G1. So he doesn't know much about G1 Shockwave either, yet still likes the character. Was DOTM Shockwave limited to screentime? Of course, but Shockwave HAS ALWAYS been limited for screentime, even in G1. So as someone who likes the character of Shockwave, the ONLY REAL REASON DOTM is last, is because he's in 1 Film, compared to multiple other versions that while limited in screentime/pages, has SEVERAL episodes and different plots they're in. So regardless, not a fair comparison. You can say you don't like him due to his design being too busy, or not transforming at all, because he had limited screentime when he was heavily in the advertising, and even if you don't like the fact he speaks Cybertronian instead of English. But in my opinion, unless it's any character from the first movie that lived/showed up for 3 films like Ironhide, Bumblebee, Optimus, Megatron, Starscream, Barricade, or Ratchet. You can't even come close to having a fair comparison with any other iterations that were in Shows, Video Games, or Comics. That's my opinion at least, and my opinion is that this is the best version of Shockwave, merely due to how intimidating and big of a threat he was, even if he would dissappear for long periods of time in the film.
@@kennythetrend3688 Grammarly is free
@@historicflame972 that's insane of you bro
0:38 Sorry, no you ain’t! Hasbro didn’t have the trademark for Shockwave at that time, so they had to make a slight alteration to his name. He’s a Shockwave.
2:55 Most designs from DOTM were directly inspired by Animated. It's why Soundwave is short and stocky, Sentinel being in the film, and Shockwave having his canon on his right arm are all from Animated.
Shockwave didn’t have a gun arm in Animated
@@thevilereviews7812 He didn't for most of it. But skip to 21:15 on this compilation of his scenes. He does have it on his right arm. ruclips.net/video/YSt8_y4t96Q/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I see, this is a little different I feel. It kinda counts but it doesn’t. It is a gun on his arm but it’s not really a gun arm if that makes sense. But I was making a joke I honestly don’t care what arm is canon is on or if he even has one
@thevilereviews7812 Was simply pointing out Animated was a huge influence on DOTM is all.
Micheal saves room for the humans? Oh no.
Does that mean the skibidi toilet movie will have stupid human time wasting?
1:00 and that what makes him the best
1:14 I'm sure someone mentioned this already, but according to the continuation plans for Season 4 and that one script reading "The Return of Blurr", Blurr comes back-Sari, wanting to be more familiar with her Cybertron root, takes a field trip to the Metroplex, and after a series of events stumbles down the same compactor chute. Since she has residual AllSpask energy, she revived him, but he was still stuck as a cube. Shortly after taking care of the Kremzeek situation, Cliffjumpee takes Cube Blurr with him to the Stunticons' show, and then later Optimus and Jazz use the AllSpark Matrix to fully restore Blurr's body... then shifting into the Japanese Legends comic's epilogue, his final scene is confronting Shockwave at his prison cell, indicating that the Return of Blurr script most likely occurred in the Japanese continuity.
It would be funny if someone made a 45 minute video saying the opposite.
Which I LOVE that video.
@@kennythetrend3688 Okay.
@@kennythetrend3688yes and the leprechauns use surfboards to glide on rainbows see I can brag about how much stuff I smoke to !
@@deltaprimis3045 mans can’t state his opinion?
@@yachtmasterr9605 what can't I ? He gave his and I gave mine so what's the problem or is it only an opinion when somebody kisses your chocolate factory I'll tell you what if you stay out of it next time maybe your opinion will matter a little bit more lil bro.
"Logical, Logical, Logically, Illogical"
-Shockwave
Bayverse Shockwave has such an awesome design. Definitely his best.
1:14 he’s basically the Medic from TF2
Shockwave/Shockblast being an unhinged murderer is actually kind of authentic. The original Marvel Shockwave would frequently have violent outbursts and only acted calm and logical when he was in full control of the situation. Sunbow and Animated were the only "docile" versions of the character, but they're also the most popular
Shockblast just is a Shockwave. Its like saying IDW G1 tankor isn't an Octane, or prime Trailcutter isn't a Trailbreaker.
Shockblast also had a hilarious rivalry with Tidalwave.
from someone who has little knowledge of transformers aside from bayverse, shockwave has a beautiful voice is how i remember him
“He’s not a scientist and he doesn’t preform experiments!” Meanwhile the giant robot worm monster that he tamed and modified so that he could ride around in all without damaging the overall mobility of it. “It’s dumb that he doesn’t have much screen time!” Yeah cause transformers have always been super well animated, there are a lot of them, and it costs tons of money. “Shockwave does nothing in this movie!” He literally causes the movie to happen. “The cannon should be on his left arm!” That was a design trait carried over from TF animated
1) There’s no concrete evidence that he’s a scientist or that he modified the driller. Taming the Driller doesn’t make him a scientist it makes him an animal tamer. 2) If money is such an issue leave it animated. “It cost a lot of money” isn’t an excuse because Transformers doesn’t have to be live action. 3) “Literally causes the movie to happen” is a bit of a stretch. He executes a plan constructed by Megatron. Technically Megatron causes the movie to happen because it’s his plan not Shockwave’s. Shockwave just did what Megatron wanted. 4) The canon bit was a joke. I don’t really care what arm it’s on or if he even has one.
1, so do you just think that the driller just so happened to have a cockpit inside of it that perfectly fit shockwave inside it? 2, you are right, transformers doesn’t have to be in live action, but by the time dark of the moon went into production the series had already had two live action movies so it would be weird if DOTM was animated, and also I don’t mind it because to me it gives shockwave this boogie man affect. 3, There is no proof of Megatron having anything to do with the plan to with finding out about the ark, Megatron has been on the down low and still healing from ROTF, Starscream is incompetent, Soundwave has nothing to do with leadership, and the Fallen was dead, only someone with the brains of shockwave could calculate such a plan. And 4, sorry about that, it’s just that I’ve actually met some people who go on rants because they don’t like the fact that the right arm has the cannon. But pretty much all I’m trying to say is that yes, if you pay attention to shockwave in this film, he is a good adaptation, to be fair it’s not very clear but he does have a lot of the key aspects of a shockwave(also just to add on, shockwave has always been a character with not a lot of screen time compared to the others, so I think that it’s fair that he doesn’t also)
@@thevilereviews7812and one more thing, this guys actually pretty strong, he took multiple shots from the Autobots and military that crippled other decepticons, he had his eye knocked out, he had a huge chunk of his side ripped out, and he still didn’t give in! Also about the parachute, it’s not like shockwave was stupid and didn’t know how to get it off, it’s the fact that it was tangled all around his horn things and was being shot at from all sides, so I think he has a good excuse to why he couldn’t get it off
And I know I’ve already commented a couple times so this will be the last one until you reply, but there’s a really good video by this guy named Blotzwave and he made a forty minute video explaining how shockwave a good in this movie
@Geekformer 1) I think Michael Bay wanted there to be a cockpit on the driller because it looks cool. I truly don’t think he put that much thought into characterization because in all of the BTS videos he mostly talks about how an epic fight scene or character design was constructed. 2. The movies do no service to the characters if the only reason why the Transformers that we came to see are pushed to the background is because of money or because “we just absolutely need a sequel”. And that excuse doesn’t negate the fact that the character is heavily underutilized. In fact it’s even more proof that the character is underutilized. They should’ve just rebooted with a movie more like Transformers One after ROTF. 3. There’s so much proof that it was his plan. In the conversation in the desert he says “you did me great honor tracking that ship to the moon. Sentinel literally says “We were never going to win the war. For the sake of our planet’s survival a deal had to be made with Megatron. Then again in DC right before Sentinel opened the portal Starscream says “My master such a brilliant scheme. So when Sentinel left Cybertron it was to defect.” To which Megatron told Starscream “he was meant to rendezvous here on Earth before fate way laid us both. In order to revive him we needed Prime and his Matrix” to which Starscream replies “Excellent strategy”. All of this heavily implies that the plan was Megatron’s from the very beginning. Him being injured doesn’t negate the fact that he and Sentinel came up with this plan millions of years ago but because he was offline he had to come up with a plan to revive him. Shockwave played a small part in that plan.
His whole mad scientist angle came from Dreamwave. I think it was one of the few things that stuck
They really gave Shockwave a cool ass look just to use him for 2 minutes. Aside from that it was cool seeing him speak Cybertronian
Definitely deserved more screen time. But in my heart he’s my favourite Shockwave
He has so much potential and yet he's just a another canon fodder in the movie. Just another "oh no look a big bad guy" He didn't have a proper fight with Optimus Prime. Just imagine we have an actual fight between Shockwave and Optimus Prime in the movie that would be so awesome!
1:19 The worst part is Blurr is still alive, in a follow up comic he gets a new body but still...
Imho, the best looking shockwave, but with the worst characterisation. W video.
But I think Shatter Glass Optimus is even more evil than any version of Shockwave
I would disagree. IDW Shockwave blows him out of the water
They gave Soundwave the right role but the wrong design while giving Shockwave the wrong role but the right design
how’s that?
@@yachtmasterr9605 Soundwave is quite communicative of his participation, which is important to show to the audience that he matters to the plot. Shockwave, however... you've seen the video.
One Shockwave is a good contender for the seat tbh. He is just whiny all the time we don't have the cold calculating scientist, just his design is a good factor really, at least Bay kept him as the guy that has a big monster
Even shock blast had more personality than bayverse shockwave 😂
He has alot of character. Its just in his actions, as with alot of decepticons.
As with soundwave in ROTF, he had a genius plan, stealing the chenobyl mcguffin to get the auto bots to overreact to bring sentinel back to earth, and get the pillars to where they wanted them.
@@dylanburston7453Shockblast is an insane manic and war criminal who escapes prison killing a bunch of autobot soldiers. He goes on to have a hilarious and iconic veef with the chad Tidalwave. In the end, Shockblast betrays megatron absorbing some of unicrons power and growing to a monstrous size. He almost defeated megatron if it weren't for the mental strain that was caused by the transformation.
I like how you say this as an insult when tbh, Shockblast is probably the Shockwave with the *most* personality.
Guys shockwave isn't supposed to have personality
@@GarrettIngallJr Well he does in nearly everything he’s in so?
Shockwave could have been the Dr.Frankenstein of the movies with its horrifying amalgamation but no
I find your arguments….. respectable and while I don’t agree with all of them I can understand and agree with others
1:10 Starscream. Bro would do absolutely anything possible just to name himself "Leader" even for a minute.
1:12 *You underestimate me, Galvatron.*
I was so mad when DOTM shockwave was nothing more than a red herring. He had been hyped up so much and everyone was excited.
at first I thought you were about to make fun of tfp Shockwave and I was ready to rebel
Shockwave at least does something. Soundwave... Soundwave is just there.
That's why Bayverse Shockwave is actually Shockblast in my head canon. Let me explain, there was a deleted concept of there actually being multiple Shockwave clones on the Chicago battlefield. It got deleted due to time and budget. So I like to image that he's actually just a Shockwave clone called Shockblast, and the real Shockwave is dead so he's trying to take his place. One idea I have that should be in future Transformers projects is Shockwave is the same Shockwave but he has a brother or clone called *Shockblast.* Shockblast is equal to Shockwave in all forms of raw physical power but he's nowhere as smart. He has Shockwave's black and grey "Galactic Man" color, along with the red eye. He could also maybe have his cannon arm on the right side instead of the left side, and it'll maybe be bigger than Shockwave's. But then again, the difference in color and use of his destructive Bayverse personality mights be good enough. *Why fix an already good idea if it doesn't need much fixing?*
This video has the best argument in how Shockwave should've been portrayed in DotM. I do think there's something poetic about his death with how his one eye was the main weakness. That should've stayed, but the build-up should've been more detailed and menacing.
shockwave made a little cameo in rotf on a newspaper, also appeared in the 2007 video games
1:08 I haven’t seen much from him, but from what I have seen, I would say Sunder from the IDW comics
This shockwave exists so the trailers could pretend Sentinel wasnt the villain
0:30 He was supposed to be called Shockwave, but due to trademark being unavailable, they went with Shockblast.
I thought you were gonna say it was Shockblast from Energon
Didn't he deliberately set off important plot points every time he was on screen though?
See the video called "You're wrong about him" with THAT Shockwave on the thumbnail. You'd be as surprised as I was.
Thay video changed my whole view on the movie. Plus he's not ment to be the main villain of the film. So I'm not mad about that. That video really did a lot of explaining and help people understand the character of that shockwave. It's definitely an amazing ahockwave.
I’ve seen his video before and I wasn’t convinced. Most of his points were based off speculation. Great video though. And I don’t think Shockwave was that integral to the plot exactly. It wasn’t his plan to do anything in Dark of the Moon. That was all Megatron. His importance to the plot boils down to looking menacing and fighting Optimus.
@@thevilereviews7812 still the story was meant to have shock wave as the villain only to charge it up. Even then shockwave did his job well while megatron is recovering. A lot of the plan didn't need explanation to us.
The plan was explained well in the movie but Shockwave didn’t have a hand in constructing the plan only executing a small part of the plan at the beginning of the movie. And I guess you could say he did a good job pretending to steal the engine part but that’s about it.
@@thevilereviews7812 yeah and based around the plot of the movie and the plan of decepticons. What use would shockwave be needed for that isn't scientific uses? Oh right a genuine fucking threat. Something shockwave is good at being. When megatron isn't available or around for it. Plus not all of the plan needed to be explain to us. So the speculation holds up for what amount of time we have on the characters and the plot of the film. So truthfully shockwave isn't waisted. He's only the worst because he's not your definition of shockwave.
Shockwave: Why should we follow you!???
shockwave
shockwave has more time in the dark of the moon game, he is even the final boss there
Michael Bay always loved having the military guys assist killing the big Decepticons... Well, maybe that wasn't his call, these movies were funded by the US military, so I guess they'd want to force things like that so little kids watching movie would like to join the army.
He could have been the main antagonist in that movie
Honestly came into this video thinking you were about to say Transformers Prime was the worst Shockwave
😅😅😅
it makes no sense why shockwave is sadistic, he's logical not a maniac
You scared me there having the prime shockwave on the thumbnail and in the beginning…
But Prime Shockwave is a good character
@@Groza_Dallocort Yes. But apparently he has a habit of mixing versions of the same transformer in the thumbnails to male some "suspense".
Bro you just made the Bayverse cool with your head cannon
I did see a video that defended this version of Shockwave, but I still agree that this version could’ve benefited from some of the stuff you mentioned, and if Shockwave was allowed to have more screen time. And sure these movies are expensive, but my answer is simple. Allow the merchandise to promote the film longer to make more money to work on the movie. And don’t put as much money into putting the details into background Decepticons that nobody cares about.
Bayverse is the equivalent of how they massacred my boy literally
*Looks Blotzwave's Shockwave video:*
*Looks at this Shockwave video:*
“Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.”
Edit: Okay chaps, this ain't Twitter, calm down in the replies.
Blotzwave’s video is still superior, this guy’s just another TFP fanatic evident with that goofy ass intro of his
If it means anything, I don’t think TFP is the best Transformers show.
@@thevilereviews7812 Oh, let me guess, the best one is Geewun?
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Nope
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 You wanna take another guess?
TFP Sockwave has more aura than Megatron himself imo
That dude is a frightening one.
4:21 cybertronity
Seeing this after having seen Blotzwave's 45-minute-long video on Bayverse Shockwave is a bit funny.
The dotm game made shockwave a bit better by saying he is a decepticon assassin that could have been interesting to be expanded on
Bayformer shockwave is illogical because no roboboob :(
Is this a video reply to that one video named "why you're wrong about him" referred to Bayverse Shockwave?
No I just make videos about the worst/best adaptations of Transformer characters and Shockwave was next on my list.
@@thevilereviews7812 Well watch Blotzwave's you're wrong about Shockwave video.
I’ve seen it. Good video, I just don’t agree with him.
In terms of design I'm sure he's a contender in that field for best. Although him being left handed i think was a nice touch because it just makes him more unique. I do agree was heavily wasted. Even though he and Optimus never fought the fact that he intimidates Optimus and is the only character bayverse Optimus didn't confront head on and waited till he was vulnerable says a lot. Yeah it's not enough to compensate but it's what we got.
Blotzwaves video was heavy speculation and doesn't justify him being used well
I swear to god, the editing makes it look like Shockwave and Optimus had a bigger fight in Chernobyl, but it got cut out of the movie. Like there is a moment Shockwave rises out of the worm, Optimus takes a battle stance, and then it awkwardly cuts to humans rising up, the worm leaving and that's it. Feels like there is a bit missing there. Be it dialogue or a fight.
Also blurr didn't die in animated, he was gonna come beck inseason 4
Yeah but we also didn’t get the 4th season so canonically he’s dead.
@@thevilereviews7812 A comic reveals he was alive as a cube the whole time
Whether that makes it better or worse is up to you
What i would have done is make him a Mr X type villain. While the autobots are on the run, Sentinel and Megatron send Shockwave to hunt them down. Throughout the movie theyd be constantly chased, always fearing he'll pop up randomly. Take it a step further during that one scene where theyre hiding in the hills, Hound refuses to join in and keeps watch as hes beyond paranoid. And yes id have a few instances where Shockwave finds them and claims an autobot or two and feeds them to his worm like construction. Problem id make is shockwave is just too much for the autobots. Even Optimus in the opening said hes scared of him. Make it to where even with teamwork, shockwave is too powerful so the only choice is RUN. In the end, id make him defeated by Wheelie and his friend ramming that giant spaceship into him, causing the worm to go haywire and shut down where it falls on the portal opener tower
3:35 Funnily enough, he doesn't
Tie ins reveal that Shockwave isn't a scientist in the bayverse, he's an assassin
Funnily enough, Shockblast/Hot Shot actually ARE Shockwave/Bumblebee.
The names were changed due to licensing problems the American and Japanese companies had going on at the time the Unicron trilogy was made.
I always thought Hot Shot was supposed to be Hot Rod, but it is obvious that Shockblact is supposed to be Shockwave.
In Japan, Shockwave is called Laserwave, which is what Shockblast is called in the sub of Energon.
3:25 he tamed a 1000 foot monster and put a hole where he can fit in and yet no shines of him being smart is crazy.
How do you know he put it there? Just because he came out of it? What if someone else made that or it came like that? We don’t know, the movie doesn’t elaborate on that
@@thevilereviews7812 Because the movie didn't NEED to, we all know Shockwave is like this with experimenting on creatures and considering that thing only answers to Shockwave and noone else it's pretty safe to assume HE did
WE know who Shockwave is but the general audience (who make up majority of ticket sales) have no idea who Shockwave is. They’re gonna look at Shockwave and go “ooo big scary robot with worm monster” and that’s it. They won’t even remember his name. Sure it’s a small detail but the movie can elaborate on the “improvements” Shockwave made to it.
Man screw Bayverse Shockwave. He had literally know interactions with any of the Decepticons. Not even a scene with Megatron.
In his defense your honor, he looks badass
I honestly like your vision for bayverse shockwave especially about why decepticons look insectoid or animalistic because when you think about it there is no reason why a majority decepticons have sharp teeth and jagged edges all over their body meanwhile the autobots look humanoid
You should watch Blotzwave's video on shockwave called "You're wrong about shockwave" although it's kind of a fanfic, it made me like this shockwave way more, and now I will be getting the Baiwei shockwave for christmas
Uh, what about Transformers One Shockwave? They turned him into a putz!
Great question! Wait a couple days on my Transformers One review I actually talk about Shockwave’s adaptation.
I’d like to think that Shockwave is before he lobotomies himself to remove his emotions.
Maybe he is, but I appreciate that Transformers One at least tried tl do something different with him instead of copy pasting his personality and lore from G1
still better than bayverse
Honestly Soundwave was treated better than Shockwave in the Dark of the Moon
5:00 He was getting shot at with bullets from not just humans, but from the Wreckers off screen. Yet he kept going when his eye was dangling from his face. He also NEARLY hit Optimus perfectly in the chest, and if it wasn't for Optimus diving over it, he would've actually taken down Prime right then and there.
Blotzwave is seething RN.
L + ratio + illogical
I think Bayverse cgi was so good, so expensive they really cant do much with the other transformers.
But really they coulve just said "oh, shockwave did those"
1:09 Beast Machines Megatron.
I hope the Transformers One universe expands upon him because I kind of hated that he mostly talks when Elita punched his eye. Still, at least he talked unlike Bayverse.
Bayverse didn't talk in English cause that would've been stupid for him to do. They talked in Cybertronian so that the humans wouldn't know what they're planning.
1:09 I know in Idw shockwave is responsible for nearly ending the universe twice but I’d say overlord is more evil. While Overlord never did anything to the same scale as shockwave, the delight in every kill he performs, having fun torturing fort max, G9, it feels so much more personal. He’s truly a monster.
Your video, is logical.
If you only watch the film, that is. If you played the tie-in game, which was a prequel, it actually explains not only his role in the game, but in the film as well. Dude is the reason why the entire plot happens.
bay was given the power to use some of the best characters in fiction and decided not only to make them near unrecognizable, but also waste them or make them dogass generic monsters