To be fair, EU4’s coalitions are the superior version of CK2’s defensive pacts, which were just an awful system. I don’t want to have to crash my computer by declaring war on the entire world for a single county lmao.
@@dr0g_Oakbloodnah, defensive pacts being separated by faith (up to a certain point) was far more fair and gave you multiple conquest paths without as much gay annoying nonsense
I'm surprised that the 15% AE reduction from the italian minors mission tree wasn't mentioned, as you can get a nice 90% fairly easely without needing the careful trait or event from indluence ideas, you just need to pop it when you're the curia controller.
I've actually done that Saluzzo run! A few tips: Try restarting for Savoy choosing giving the provinces to Geneva. This results in them being small enough to full annex, giving you an extra 4 provinces from the two vassals. Being threatened by Savoy gives you a much easier chance of being able to establish relations with burgundy. You can give them some Genevan land and get return cores later, and also go for burgundian inheritance. Vassalizing Provence and giving them Corsica will give them cores on all of Naples, this is pretty standard tech. Try grabbing a single province from them to release them after France and friends full annex the rest. A friendly Burgundy, mixed with some opportunism can let you get some releasables in France. You want to destabilize France early. Pushing into Iberia too is also beneficial. Overall by 1500ish you should be looking to form S-P (keeping Salluzese ideas), have a good chunk of southern France, northern and southern Italy, and a few islands including stuff needed for S-P. It's a very fun run! But be prepared for a lot of restarts. The first 5-10 years are crucial. Switzerland and Burgundy are typically your best bet for allies.
Great video, and kudos to your new editor!! It's so rare to see a major change in editing style that fits the original feel of the channel while making it more engaging. The attention to detail is amazing.
Appreciate the feedback, I tried to go for a 'Lemon Cake but I am better at editing style' and I am glad you appreciate it! All credit to www.youtube.com/@thekaiser-eu4/videos !
You can do something very similar in Northern Germany. If you form Pomerania, which is fairly easy, then you get -20% AE impact from a mission, which can then also be chained with AE impact from Prussian ideas
Btw, coalitions only form if your enemies think that they have a chance of beating you. Once I was playing as Russia and I was expanding in every direction, I had more than -50 from many nations (primarily in HRE), but the coalition have started forming when I took Bohemia. Every neighbour united against me, from tiny HRE members to Indian kingdoms to Chinese warlords. And the coalition almost immediately collapsed when I took a new military tech. Pretty sure the same works for devving, spawning new armies and embracing institutions.
that Intro made me tear up from laughing :D I remember my very first game, where I decided to play Würtemberg and didn't know AE exists. Until Austria came knocking :D
I think the lowest base AE you can get for taking a province is technically 0.1% AE not 1%. This assumes using coalition CB to retake your cores which is at a CB modifier of 10%. But everyone can easily get to 0.75% AE if they already staked Admin eff. and AE reduction. Simply by using Holy War CB or Imperialism CB. Another one that people sleep on is culture switching to use Nationalism CB for 50% AE from taking culture group provinces. In this case this would yield 0.5% base AE.
This applies to specific provinces, aka with reconquest yes, but I wanted to assume all provinces. Nationalism technically also lets you have a 50% AE discount on top of that, but only works on specific provinces, while Imperialism is more universal but I already had a very complicated disclaimer section with a lot of numbers so that got cut.
Saluzzo is one of my comfort tags, having done a good few normal runs and a few wacky runs with them. And honestly, once you've got the start down its a pretty chill experience. The small but okay mt the italian minors get gives you -15% ae impact if you're cc/hremperor or own rome, which if you get as curia controller is a real win more buff, paired with age ability, espionage and diplomatic, you're able to cleave through everyone around you and no one cares. Rest of the ideaset is goated too, definitely the baller tag of italy
The most fun playthroughs are playing with western hordes in european part of the continent and expanding westward. With espionage and horde ideas you can annex nations faster than they could join coalitions.
Check the description, I have been contacted by an individual who is very good at the whole editing business. Hopefully if I get enough subs I might even be able to pay him!
Gives me the idea of fast WC with the Ottomans, since Oirat is quite harder due to the slacking change (and bc Lamda used the trade comp exploit if I recall). You could eyalet all you conquer, get manpower from sunni interaction and, diplo vassalize most muslims with the religion switch bonus and get rid of ae if needed. Only thing you won’t have is diplo points due to unjust demands. Not sure if an expert could do it faster this way than with a horde, but I’d like to see.
Hey bro what about "diplomatic relations" stacking video? I'm in love with playing subject heavy games, now I'm literally into making my own comfy mini-HRE (after shadow kingdom) with Mantua (they have NI giving +1 diplo slot) and rushing influence ideas first, then mercenary then diplo, effectively having something like 12 slots (4 base + 2 strong duchies + 1 inf + 1 dip + 2 merc+dip policy + 1 NI + 1 representatives of the crown gov reform + some random events giving +1)
An interesting concept for sure, although I have to admit personally when I go for similar games I tend to do so with Japan or HRE revokes so that I am able to not worry about dip slots and instead focus on things like vassal income/forcelimit
Isn't preventing the age of reformation for a replaceable 10% reduction all game long way worse than reaping the benefits of admin efficiency from absolutism?
-150% is possible as a modifier, its just past 90% the effect is capped. Like you can mod in -9999% AE if you want, its just the effect of it is capped at -90%.
to be honest it is to much effort to stack up ae reduction. it is way easier to stack improve relations modifier which will reduce ae impact and of course manage you ae properly. this is basically one skill you need if you play in singleplayer.
hey.. does anyone know an easy way to change nation info whilst in the game with console commands? like nation colour and name etc? or do we have to go into the files? if i do change the files /common/country tags etc does it change them for the entire game or just that one playthru? is there a way to link it to only one playthru like a scenario in civ 4? or i just have to copy the files and swap them around when i want a normal playthru again? i was thinking of making some other historical nations kinda like an alterative history mod of my own but im a noob so was hoping to do it as easy as possible.. or can i somehow custom nation and start the game and then use that same save and start a new game with another custom nation so i just keep adding them? thanks for any info...
interesting place to ask, but country or tag color is indeed stored in the game files, you will either want to go change it in your game files for all future saves, or make your own mod that changes those colors (should be checksum compatable). Creating a separate mod for that would be your best bet.
I remember several years ago I hit 90% with Brandenburg in like 1490s. No idea what patch it was, or what DLCs I had ... I just remember there was the ae buff on influence idea, not espionage, + the national idea + ruler bonus. And yeah, I hit the curia plus got the event on influence. Felt so satisfying to annex Hamburg for like 3 or 4 ae, while it was not the primary target of my war :D Never went for the same idea ever again .. but I might with way more flavour/missions to Prusia in last several years.
Did the Three Mountains as Hindu Rikku, pretty ridiculous, truce broke France took half their country, truce broke again and got like 16 ae negative opinion with them
Pretty pointless video because by the time you can get to 90% AE reduction in a game you would *already* be so powerful that coalitions wouldn't mean anything at all.
oh absolutely, this is more of a 'for fun thing': as I mentioned in the video, my favorite method is just annexing it. The Saluzzo run can definitely get some millage out of stacking it, for sure.
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Coalitions are eu4’s way of telling you that you’re having too much fun
Pretty much, they needed a 'anti conquer the world too quickly mechanic'
To be fair, EU4’s coalitions are the superior version of CK2’s defensive pacts, which were just an awful system. I don’t want to have to crash my computer by declaring war on the entire world for a single county lmao.
@@dr0g_Oakbloodnah, defensive pacts being separated by faith (up to a certain point) was far more fair and gave you multiple conquest paths without as much gay annoying nonsense
@@dr0g_Oakblood Ah, the CK2 defensive pacts! Yeah I always turned those off they made no sense.
@@LemonCake101More like ‘anti conquer a random Provence in the middle of nowhere’ mechanic
Aggressive Expansion has certainly been requested for a while now, I hope you enjoy!
I'm surprised that the 15% AE reduction from the italian minors mission tree wasn't mentioned, as you can get a nice 90% fairly easely without needing the careful trait or event from indluence ideas, you just need to pop it when you're the curia controller.
True, that is another option that honestly slipped my mind.
Very nice editing, Lemon, love it
Upd: or should I say congrats on finding a good editor. Either way - gj
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AE is just a number!🗿
Yes, and we are going to make that number 0.
@@LemonCake101Cant Exist a Coalition, if Their Are No Other Nations.
@@sealking1775 as I mentioned in the video, that is also my preferred method of dealing with it!
If you manage preventing the reformation with any starting nation other than the Ottomans then you're an absolute mad lad.
Sometimes you are the reformation!
Did it as Austria in my third attempt at them. Got lucky with the spawns
Love the edits. Good job.
Appreciate the feedback, thank you!
Thank you for this video. This higher effort editing is what I feel like has been missing from Eu4 RUclips-wise for awhile.
Glad you liked it, all credit to www.youtube.com/@thekaiser-eu4/videos for the editing!
@@LemonCake101 Then I very much appreciate his hard work on the editing! (& yours on the script & vc I presume)
@@Rex_Silvermoon yup, still me routing everything/etc/picking what goes into the video!
The pinball startup caught me off guard
noice
Glad you noticed!
I've actually done that Saluzzo run! A few tips:
Try restarting for Savoy choosing giving the provinces to Geneva. This results in them being small enough to full annex, giving you an extra 4 provinces from the two vassals.
Being threatened by Savoy gives you a much easier chance of being able to establish relations with burgundy. You can give them some Genevan land and get return cores later, and also go for burgundian inheritance.
Vassalizing Provence and giving them Corsica will give them cores on all of Naples, this is pretty standard tech. Try grabbing a single province from them to release them after France and friends full annex the rest.
A friendly Burgundy, mixed with some opportunism can let you get some releasables in France. You want to destabilize France early. Pushing into Iberia too is also beneficial.
Overall by 1500ish you should be looking to form S-P (keeping Salluzese ideas), have a good chunk of southern France, northern and southern Italy, and a few islands including stuff needed for S-P.
It's a very fun run! But be prepared for a lot of restarts. The first 5-10 years are crucial. Switzerland and Burgundy are typically your best bet for allies.
Good advice here, nothing to disagree with!
I tried this today, but I got so goddamn mad cos the bur inheritance went to scotland instead of me cos I think their trust was like 1 higher or smth
Great video, and kudos to your new editor!! It's so rare to see a major change in editing style that fits the original feel of the channel while making it more engaging. The attention to detail is amazing.
Appreciate the feedback, I tried to go for a 'Lemon Cake but I am better at editing style' and I am glad you appreciate it! All credit to www.youtube.com/@thekaiser-eu4/videos !
You can do something very similar in Northern Germany. If you form Pomerania, which is fairly easy, then you get -20% AE impact from a mission, which can then also be chained with AE impact from Prussian ideas
That is another option for sure, Pomerania does not get enough love.
>me avoiding coalitions by having truces with literally everyone on the continent
The classic method
Btw, coalitions only form if your enemies think that they have a chance of beating you. Once I was playing as Russia and I was expanding in every direction, I had more than -50 from many nations (primarily in HRE), but the coalition have started forming when I took Bohemia. Every neighbour united against me, from tiny HRE members to Indian kingdoms to Chinese warlords. And the coalition almost immediately collapsed when I took a new military tech. Pretty sure the same works for devving, spawning new armies and embracing institutions.
For me it always forms no matter how strong I am, but they almost never declare. All it does is make a roadblock for expansion
@@dakota6050 You probably need to be not just stronger than them, but overwhelmingly stronger. Like No-No Germany vs Luxembourg level of stronger.
Yes, that is one of the requirements for coalitions, they need to think they are strong enough to beat you.
It is 'over the top stronger' I believe, so over twice as strong AFAIK.
I had coalitions form against me with only small nations while I was #1 GP, allowing me to fully annex all of them in a single war.
I really like the editing on this one bro good work
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that Intro made me tear up from laughing :D
I remember my very first game, where I decided to play Würtemberg and didn't know AE exists.
Until Austria came knocking :D
Oh yeah, a classic, suddenly you are fighting Germany. Quite a few people go through that for sure!
Very nice editing, thank you for another good video
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I think the lowest base AE you can get for taking a province is technically 0.1% AE not 1%. This assumes using coalition CB to retake your cores which is at a CB modifier of 10%. But everyone can easily get to 0.75% AE if they already staked Admin eff. and AE reduction. Simply by using Holy War CB or Imperialism CB. Another one that people sleep on is culture switching to use Nationalism CB for 50% AE from taking culture group provinces. In this case this would yield 0.5% base AE.
This applies to specific provinces, aka with reconquest yes, but I wanted to assume all provinces. Nationalism technically also lets you have a 50% AE discount on top of that, but only works on specific provinces, while Imperialism is more universal but I already had a very complicated disclaimer section with a lot of numbers so that got cut.
Saluzzo is one of my comfort tags, having done a good few normal runs and a few wacky runs with them. And honestly, once you've got the start down its a pretty chill experience.
The small but okay mt the italian minors get gives you -15% ae impact if you're cc/hremperor or own rome, which if you get as curia controller is a real win more buff, paired with age ability, espionage and diplomatic, you're able to cleave through everyone around you and no one cares.
Rest of the ideaset is goated too, definitely the baller tag of italy
Its a pretty fun campaign to be honest, and better then a 15th Ottomans/Austria/France run for sure.
Hey lemon, thats very cool video editing!!! Love it
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The quality difference in your videos are insane. Love the way u developed
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Upping the game with the editing on this one!
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You are killing it mate keep it up
Appreciate it, thanks!
You can also get ae reduction together with other bonuses by having spy network in country you are fighting with.
Yes, but that is only against the one country, not all of them.
No, the AE reduction applies to the country you have the spy network in. It's nice to keep big scary nations from going over 50 but that's about it.
The most fun playthroughs are playing with western hordes in european part of the continent and expanding westward. With espionage and horde ideas you can annex nations faster than they could join coalitions.
True, and in fairness I find a similar effect can be achieved by playing someone like France.
Woah! What happened to your editing? I missed the last upload so I got a big surprise
Check the description, I have been contacted by an individual who is very good at the whole editing business. Hopefully if I get enough subs I might even be able to pay him!
@@LemonCake101 I see, I thought it had something to do with "trying something new" with the editing of your previous video
@@LemonCake101If I can give a tip for your editor, add another half second between sentences so it doesn’t sound like you’re on meth 😅
@@MyUsersDark well yes, its the same guy as last time! He has been doing a great job in my opinion.
@@lllLoko I'll pass it on!
I really like the new video style!
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wow I'm a certified eu4 player
Congrats on your certifications!
@thekaiser-eu4 how did you get so good at editing damm
@@samotter9509You will see even better next times 🗣️
Awesome editing
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You can reduce AE OR you can REMOVE it. (By releasing people f.e.) That way you basically can reach -100%.
True, somewhat, but no need to remove something that's pretty much not there!
Gives me the idea of fast WC with the Ottomans, since Oirat is quite harder due to the slacking change (and bc Lamda used the trade comp exploit if I recall).
You could eyalet all you conquer, get manpower from sunni interaction and, diplo vassalize most muslims with the religion switch bonus and get rid of ae if needed. Only thing you won’t have is diplo points due to unjust demands.
Not sure if an expert could do it faster this way than with a horde, but I’d like to see.
Hey bro what about "diplomatic relations" stacking video? I'm in love with playing subject heavy games, now I'm literally into making my own comfy mini-HRE (after shadow kingdom) with Mantua (they have NI giving +1 diplo slot) and rushing influence ideas first, then mercenary then diplo, effectively having something like 12 slots (4 base + 2 strong duchies + 1 inf + 1 dip + 2 merc+dip policy + 1 NI + 1 representatives of the crown gov reform + some random events giving +1)
An interesting concept for sure, although I have to admit personally when I go for similar games I tend to do so with Japan or HRE revokes so that I am able to not worry about dip slots and instead focus on things like vassal income/forcelimit
@@LemonCake101 I understand, but I prefer to make my own mini HRE just because I like having a vassal swarm any time, any place I wish
@@lesnoyelf228 Understandable. I will add it to the list as it where, but as always, no promises.
OMG the pinball sound effect 🥺
for real the best reference
Glad you noticed!
Also since you asked last video what we think of the new video, I wasn't sure at first, but it's great. I find it fittingly unique to your style ❤
@@ondrejrichtr6835 appreciate the feedback, and I have to admit myself, change is always scary but the desire to improve is there too!
@@LemonCake101 I'm here for it!
bro this is amaaaaazing
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for the support!
What about Nahuatl Doom mechanic. If you can reform and hold it near 100, you have 100 AE reduction
i took 2 provinces and got 10+ countries in a coalition against me
Perfect video. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed!
Did they add the cap recently ?
I saw a -100% run with France.
Was that the playmaker video?
3:36 Doesn’t being emperor give AE reduction?
It gives you an extra diplomat that helps you improve people out of coalitions, but not AE directly
@@LemonCake101 ahh. Haven’t played in HRE for a long time
setting up a spy network on your enemy will also reduce the AE from annexing provinces.
i always use it when playing byzantium.
that does work, but only against a specific tag, and not universally.
Sick editing
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I wonder how possible a one tag WC as Saluzzo would be with this...
Before they changed the requirements for Rome formation, I believe people would run Saluzzo into Rome speedruns, so honestly quite doable from there!
I love your videos!!!
Thanks for the support, appreciate it!
Isn't preventing the age of reformation for a replaceable 10% reduction all game long way worse than reaping the benefits of admin efficiency from absolutism?
... yes.
What’s the exact Saluzzo challenge? Form Italy before 1550?
well, it was used to form the old Roman Empire pre 1500 so really up to you, I guess its more 'get the modifier to -90%'
@@LemonCake101 now that sounds fun :)
@@stephenbernard3003 good luck!
U forgot the -15% AE reduction in saluzzo mission tree
Yeah slipped through the cracks, it definitely helps!
Mine's ever reach -150% malus.. must've been mod somehow. 😆😆😆
-150% is possible as a modifier, its just past 90% the effect is capped. Like you can mod in -9999% AE if you want, its just the effect of it is capped at -90%.
QR code was a missed opportunity c:
Maybe next time ;)
Sorry I haven't understood how to set up the aggressive impact described in chapter 1
What do you mean by that?
@@LemonCake101 I don't understand where I can lower AE to 90% at the very beginning
@@Cheduepallottole without cheating, getting to 90% from the very start is impossible AFAIK, but the video goes into how you can get there ASAP.
Spy network gives 10 or 20% AE redux if Im not mistaken.
They do, but only against specific tags, and not globally.
to be honest it is to much effort to stack up ae reduction. it is way easier to stack improve relations modifier which will reduce ae impact and of course manage you ae properly. this is basically one skill you need if you play in singleplayer.
To some extent yes, AE reduction helps, but Improve Relations is also amazing and should not be neglected.
6.66K subs. Nice.
We are making progress for sure!
Alternatively: do not have land borders.
The AI cannot into boat
Indeed, although given how much mental pain I have fighting rebels on standalone islands, I don't think I can mentally into boat either.
Can you please do a video for Diplo Annexation?
I’ll put it on the list for sure
The “doesnt watch lemon cake” modifier is literally the most brutal, it always ruins my runs. How to fix?
Its quite a tough one to overcome, but the good news is, you are in the right place to start addressing the root cause of the issue!
hey.. does anyone know an easy way to change nation info whilst in the game with console commands? like nation colour and name etc? or do we have to go into the files? if i do change the files /common/country tags etc does it change them for the entire game or just that one playthru? is there a way to link it to only one playthru like a scenario in civ 4? or i just have to copy the files and swap them around when i want a normal playthru again? i was thinking of making some other historical nations kinda like an alterative history mod of my own but im a noob so was hoping to do it as easy as possible.. or can i somehow custom nation and start the game and then use that same save and start a new game with another custom nation so i just keep adding them? thanks for any info...
interesting place to ask, but country or tag color is indeed stored in the game files, you will either want to go change it in your game files for all future saves, or make your own mod that changes those colors (should be checksum compatable). Creating a separate mod for that would be your best bet.
@@LemonCake101 ive never created mods before. is there a guide somewhere?
@@tigrecito48 yeah its not very well communicated out there in fairness, I would recommended googling around though, that is how I started.
Nice video
Appreciate it, thanks!
I remember several years ago I hit 90% with Brandenburg in like 1490s. No idea what patch it was, or what DLCs I had ... I just remember there was the ae buff on influence idea, not espionage, + the national idea + ruler bonus. And yeah, I hit the curia plus got the event on influence. Felt so satisfying to annex Hamburg for like 3 or 4 ae, while it was not the primary target of my war :D Never went for the same idea ever again .. but I might with way more flavour/missions to Prusia in last several years.
Fair enough, its rather impressive to get their accidently though, but the influence event can certainly be really strong!
No stack this with improve relations improvements aswell and you will not get any coalitions
Improve relations is honestly really underrated for coalition management for sure. It is literally one of the first modifiers I stacked.
Did the Three Mountains as Hindu Rikku, pretty ridiculous, truce broke France took half their country, truce broke again and got like 16 ae negative opinion with them
Hindu Ryukku is the way to go I believe
ae is just a number
And this lets you keep it as low as possible!
Come here my pretties
Oh no...
just
clearae
and your life will be better
Cheating :(
Pretty pointless video because by the time you can get to 90% AE reduction in a game you would *already* be so powerful that coalitions wouldn't mean anything at all.
oh absolutely, this is more of a 'for fun thing': as I mentioned in the video, my favorite method is just annexing it. The Saluzzo run can definitely get some millage out of stacking it, for sure.
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