I would definitely use rideblock as I'm still in the process of refining the basic 6 tricks so I think that would help me (especially since I'm having huge trouble with popping the kickflip). They launched an indiegogo campaign. I think it might not be best for every possible trick, but nailing down the basics should be helpful and it's worth it just for that.
I'm excited, RideBlock actually just hit me up to test out their product so I'm going to get to see what it can actually do. I will let you know after I use it for a little how useful it is and see if the issues you mentioned are a problem or not
So how did that ride block thing do? I have not seen any of the dude's in any of Thresher's videos using them, haha. Personally I don't think skaters need any apps to tell them who has the highest score at the park, hahaha!!!!
I always feel that I have to add the correct information with all of your videos.... Kryptonics made ptex first that was the first slick decks in the late 70s.... It was super slick and did not wear off....
I wear Servant Dragon shoes and they are extremely comfortable and the color ways are pretty cool. The only other vegan shoes which come close are the Emerica ones.
Your videos are so awesome it's great to see someone discuss skateboarding, you don't see it often. It's also nice to see skateboarding innovations given publicity and credit rather than potentially great ideas and products not being recognised
Rad Rat Video would love your thoughts on electric skateboards if you haven't addressed it. Do you think we will ever see adoption from regular street skaters? Let's say hypothetically if there was a single electric truck that made any regular deck an electric one, without weight or shape compromise. For me, I love pushing but just throwing an idea out there
Just on 'slicks', at least the old version: my friend had the Jeremy Wray model 'It' slick deck ('It' as in Pennywise). The problem with slicks back then, at least as far as we were concerned, was that they were significantly heavier. So, great for boardslides, etc, but a real disadvantage for anything else. I remember I wanted that model so badly, and to see my friend by the 'slick' version of it was really disappointing to me (obviously, you can't be seen riding the same model as another member of your skate crew, right?). I never bought a slick. They were super heavy, back in the day. From memory, the J.W. model was 8-ply +slick coating. A really heavy deck.
Sheering force from crooked grinds...that now explains why my one of my last set busted while doing crooks (a set of RUSH, iirc, but that was after a long time of skating them).
I've always owned guatambu (argentine/brazilean tree) wood boards, it's so heavy that I truly feel extremely weird whenever I grab a maple one (and get A LOT of extra pop when I do)
the fingerboard grip style is used on pro snow skates so it probably would work pretty good on a normal board. But, like you said it would more than likely chip much easier. The grip on my snowskate is curled off in some parts but, ive had friends use boots on the board which could also be the cause of the chipping and curling.
Boyd Hill's uva foam snowskate grip is 1cm thick works very very well with Vans MTE reverse waffle souls. Bi-level snowskates are designed for snowboard park terrain and mountains - big transition type skating jumps and rails and even some powder.
Oust4lyfe! lol I've never used a better bearing, or seen one more suited for skateboarding! All this stuff is so cool and exciting. Great, great video, as usual.
To clear things up a little: While the ABEC scale is pretty irrelevant when it comes to skating, it doesn't just messure the roundness of the bearing balls but rather acts as an industry standard for any given bearings tolerance.
I ised to ride powell mini logos witj sst (super slick technology.) They would slide so fast on board, nose and tail slides. It took some getting used to or you would slip out because they were quick.
Powell slicks weren't coated they had a plastic layer that was thick and heavy. They fazed out because of the weight. I skated a powell slick for a year on the worst ledges possible. Wheel bite wasn't bad on them either but the extra weight would wear you out half way through a session.
Yep! I talked about them in the first edition of this video. I can't wait to try some. I needed some new trucks a few weeks ago, but they were out of stock and I just got some Krux. So it might be a while before I get the chance to get some.
I used to know people that had bigger, softer wheels they would use to cruise to a skate spot then put on smaller harder wheels when they got to the spot. Only takes a minute to switch wheels though anyway. Don't need weird trucks for it.
Dude, I don't understand how the RideBlock works, but my first question would be: how does it know where the pressure for any given trick came from? So, how could it differentiate between a pressure flip, and a really low-pop flip of the same order. How could it differentiate between a late flip and a similar trick that used the same rotation and flips? My instinct tells me that it cannot. It couldn't know if I popped a massive ollie and then used my front foot to perform a kick flip, or if I used my back foot to lateflip the board into a kickflip rotation. I don't know anything about it, but without video footage, it would be impossible to distinguish, if the data solely relies on board rotation and the kenetic force data it acquires. (I'm probably wrong about all of this, but Rad Rat did ask for comments and opinions, so hey... shoot me).
Nice video! For the stripped/smashed axles, many skate tools have a re-threader piece built in (the Reflex tool is the best). Also, what program did you use to do the intro animation? It looks great!
Yeah, that's probably a much better option than getting special trucks with an extra, breakable part. Thanks dude! I made it with Adobe Animate and After Effects.
I can go up to 35 mph on a hill. I have loose trucks and soft bushings. I used a speedometer app on my phone to tell me how fast i was. I've compared the app to my cars speedometer and it's really accurate.
GPS trackers are only accurate at higher speeds but doing 3 tests and getting an average can give a better estimate so people know if a hill is worth bombing
I wonder if the ride block registers a trick if you just huck the board down some stairs. "Hey guys I triple kickflipped the 9 stair. Check the ride block if you don't believe me!" Lol
You'd think it would be able to tell if you actually landed, or if the board just hit the ground and bounced away randomly. If it can't, then it would count every bail as something crazy. I really want to see this thing in action to figure out stuff like that.
Thanks! I made a couple videos about my old animation somewhere on this channel. I figured I might as well make myself something cool to help grab peoples' attention.
With the Ride Block, if no one was around you could just spin it however, jump and do some bullshit, just use your hands like a giant handboard and get credit for all these amazing tricks, or does it somehow know? Also if it has any sorta GPS technology itd make it awful easy for cops to locate you out street skating
my first board was world industry devel guy on bottom with the slick coating, it was a layer of some kind of plastic nearly as thick as a ply. it worked great, and kept the graphics on a long time one of the only boards i never snaped too, tricks are different when your are rolling square wheels are for sissies thats so lame never seen that
I bet someday we will have data loggers with accelerometers, gyroscopes etc on boards that will tell you what tricks you've landed, speed, rotations, manual durations etc.
how about tensor trucks, anybody ever had those? with a plastic little grind plate for nose/tail slides, they were black the plastic plate was orange... it just broke off instantly for me. those were rodney mullen design truk i think. and i used to break king pins all the time on my independants i switched to ventures and it never happened
They were nothing special really plus the Kingpin was like specialized so you had to actually order a new Kingpin from tensor instead of just going to the skate shop that was pretty wack too. If I remember correctly. After going through independent cancer couple of the randoms I ended up liking venture and Royal they were the only ones that didn't fall apart on me or the axles we get all stripped up on the threads from Landing Primo as always a pain in the ass to
chris trull i had the same problems i only skated independent for a long time as a beginner once i started hitting ledges kingpins broke to often i switched to tensors but they were to tall i switch between royal lows and thunder now
ride block is cool but I don't like anything on my board like stickers or stuff under it. it's all mental really. I've tried to put stickers on my board and if I know their there then I can't skate normal. nothing can by on my board except for the parts
If everyone bought blank decks, skateboarding would not die. However, professional skateboarding would since pros would not make a salary and professional companies would go bankrupt. Either way, people would still be skateboarding, which is good.
No it had no chipping whatsoever, untill about a month of use i had one large chip. But what happened is the tail kind of disappeared, instead of getting razortail. Like i ended up losing about 3 inches off of the tail size, so it really ruined my ability to do anything.
Watching this in 2021. Where is the confident guy with the killer hairstyle? P.S. I'm surprised I don't see a comment from my old RUclips profile here.
i dont think skater trainers are that usefull because you should try to learn tricks rolling as early as possible i myself only learned ollies stationary
The Ride Block will be useless, it's just another product riding the wave of useless and needless bluetooth devices that pair with an app. For everyone one useful bluetooth/app device, there's 1,000 ridiculous ones. There's no objective number that will ever tell you how good you're skateboarding, the one thing this might be useful for is fine tuning your foot positioning for maximum pop or highest ollie, but even then who knows if the data is accurate since I'm sure it's all accelerometer based and I doubt you can consistently identify height to the inch with that method, especially with a board that's rotating and pivoting.
Why in the fuck would you want to go as fast as speed of sound? You going to open a portal or something?You going to regret buying abec watch if it ever happens
Geoff Rowley and ed Templeton been vegan since the 90s, Ryan lays got that new vegan shoe- there was the Mike valley barnyard deck Too, veganism n skating go hand n hand
i dont think skater trainers are that usefull because you should try to learn tricks rolling as early as possible i myself only learned ollies stationary
thank you so much for choosing us for your video. the english site will be up in early 2017.
Good to know! I'll check it out when it's up.
Rideblock might be cool for contest skating. It could help the judges be less Nijah biased. 😅
I would definitely use rideblock as I'm still in the process of refining the basic 6 tricks so I think that would help me (especially since I'm having huge trouble with popping the kickflip). They launched an indiegogo campaign. I think it might not be best for every possible trick, but nailing down the basics should be helpful and it's worth it just for that.
i love how relaxed you talk and not all like "fuck" and "nigga" like everyone else-.- haha its cool you can just be super chill
Thanks dude. That's just how I am. I leave all that stuff for everyone else.
right on. he is an individual. thats rare anymore
I'm excited, RideBlock actually just hit me up to test out their product so I'm going to get to see what it can actually do. I will let you know after I use it for a little how useful it is and see if the issues you mentioned are a problem or not
I heard from them too!
So how did that ride block thing do? I have not seen any of the dude's in any of Thresher's videos using them, haha. Personally I don't think skaters need any apps to tell them who has the highest score at the park, hahaha!!!!
I always feel that I have to add the correct information with all of your videos.... Kryptonics made ptex first that was the first slick decks in the late 70s.... It was super slick and did not wear off....
Speaking of Richie Jackson can you do a series on newer skaters like him akin to Retro Rippers?
I wear Servant Dragon shoes and they are extremely comfortable and the color ways are pretty cool. The only other vegan shoes which come close are the Emerica ones.
Your videos are so awesome it's great to see someone discuss skateboarding, you don't see it often. It's also nice to see skateboarding innovations given publicity and credit rather than potentially great ideas and products not being recognised
these tech videos and the historical videos are so good. best skate channel!
Thanks! I've got lots more of that stuff on the way!
Rad Rat Video would love your thoughts on electric skateboards if you haven't addressed it. Do you think we will ever see adoption from regular street skaters? Let's say hypothetically if there was a single electric truck that made any regular deck an electric one, without weight or shape compromise. For me, I love pushing but just throwing an idea out there
Just on 'slicks', at least the old version: my friend had the Jeremy Wray model 'It' slick deck ('It' as in Pennywise). The problem with slicks back then, at least as far as we were concerned, was that they were significantly heavier. So, great for boardslides, etc, but a real disadvantage for anything else. I remember I wanted that model so badly, and to see my friend by the 'slick' version of it was really disappointing to me (obviously, you can't be seen riding the same model as another member of your skate crew, right?). I never bought a slick. They were super heavy, back in the day. From memory, the J.W. model was 8-ply +slick coating. A really heavy deck.
Sheering force from crooked grinds...that now explains why my one of my last set busted while doing crooks (a set of RUSH, iirc, but that was after a long time of skating them).
I didn’t know that Richie Jackson’s presence on shoe brand, made it legit.
You gotta check the new peralta boards. I've seen a truck run over it
I've always owned guatambu (argentine/brazilean tree) wood boards, it's so heavy that I truly feel extremely weird whenever I grab a maple one (and get A LOT of extra pop when I do)
the fingerboard grip style is used on pro snow skates so it probably would work pretty good on a normal board. But, like you said it would more than likely chip much easier. The grip on my snowskate is curled off in some parts but, ive had friends use boots on the board which could also be the cause of the chipping and curling.
Oh, good thinking. I haven't snowskated in about 10 years. Mine seemed to hold up pretty well.
Boyd Hill's uva foam snowskate grip is 1cm thick works very very well with Vans MTE reverse waffle souls. Bi-level snowskates are designed for snowboard park terrain and mountains - big transition type skating jumps and rails and even some powder.
When you said half the speed of sound I imagined some dude on a salt flat with a street board doing mach 1 and loled
Oust4lyfe! lol
I've never used a better bearing, or seen one more suited for skateboarding! All this stuff is so cool and exciting. Great, great video, as usual.
Yeah they definitely did their research! It's pretty cool when you get into all the technical details too.
To clear things up a little: While the ABEC scale is pretty irrelevant when it comes to skating, it doesn't just messure the roundness of the bearing balls but rather acts as an industry standard for any given bearings tolerance.
Good call. I saw that it measures how round the TRACK is and must have misread it. Point still stands though!
Rad Rat Video
"Point still stands though!"
Definitely does.
I imagined the video ending with a mic drop after, “You know what’s 100% accurate? Filming video.”.
I ised to ride powell mini logos witj sst (super slick technology.) They would slide so fast on board, nose and tail slides. It took some getting used to or you would slip out because they were quick.
I love your reviews, thanks bro!
i remember slick decks with a thick plastic layer on the bottom. am i wrong?
No they first made slick decks around 1990. But this is the next generation of them, I guess.
Rad Rat Video did you ever buy a pair of Osiris d3? and tell the truth
no, they were too expensive for me. I had Vans most of the time in those days.
can you make a video about bronson bearings? alot of skaters say that they are the best .
Powell slicks weren't coated they had a plastic layer that was thick and heavy. They fazed out because of the weight. I skated a powell slick for a year on the worst ledges possible. Wheel bite wasn't bad on them either but the extra weight would wear you out half way through a session.
Can you do the shark wheels street wheel review
Joshuaseth Garcia i was wondering how those were myself
I'd like to know about the pricing of rideblock. I image it beeing pricey over the benefits you get...
Quality content as always. How much of a script do you write and how much of it is off the cuff? Does it vary from video to video?
It depends on the video. I write it all out in advance, but how closely I stick to it just depends on how it feels.
Rad Rat Video
Thanks for the answer!
On that note: Ever seen suspension trucks?
avenuetrucks.com/
Yep! I talked about them in the first edition of this video. I can't wait to try some. I needed some new trucks a few weeks ago, but they were out of stock and I just got some Krux. So it might be a while before I get the chance to get some.
I don't know about that app. I don't wanna know how fast and high and how many tries. Just film and check out what looks best imo.
I used to know people that had bigger, softer wheels they would use to cruise to a skate spot then put on smaller harder wheels when they got to the spot. Only takes a minute to switch wheels though anyway. Don't need weird trucks for it.
Dude, I don't understand how the RideBlock works, but my first question would be: how does it know where the pressure for any given trick came from? So, how could it differentiate between a pressure flip, and a really low-pop flip of the same order. How could it differentiate between a late flip and a similar trick that used the same rotation and flips? My instinct tells me that it cannot. It couldn't know if I popped a massive ollie and then used my front foot to perform a kick flip, or if I used my back foot to lateflip the board into a kickflip rotation. I don't know anything about it, but without video footage, it would be impossible to distinguish, if the data solely relies on board rotation and the kenetic force data it acquires. (I'm probably wrong about all of this, but Rad Rat did ask for comments and opinions, so hey... shoot me).
More Skate tech videos please!
I liked for the time codes.
could you talk about seismic bearings as well?
Good video i enjoyed
not so new but vans duracap is an overlooked feature that helps a lot
Nice video! For the stripped/smashed axles, many skate tools have a re-threader piece built in (the Reflex tool is the best). Also, what program did you use to do the intro animation? It looks great!
Yeah, that's probably a much better option than getting special trucks with an extra, breakable part. Thanks dude! I made it with Adobe Animate and After Effects.
Oust bearings are bloody good.. just hard to get in nz
I can go up to 35 mph on a hill. I have loose trucks and soft bushings. I used a speedometer app on my phone to tell me how fast i was. I've compared the app to my cars speedometer and it's really accurate.
GPS trackers are only accurate at higher speeds but doing 3 tests and getting an average can give a better estimate so people know if a hill is worth bombing
I wonder if the ride block registers a trick if you just huck the board down some stairs.
"Hey guys I triple kickflipped the 9 stair. Check the ride block if you don't believe me!" Lol
Kyle K yeah i see this being an issue as well haha.
You'd think it would be able to tell if you actually landed, or if the board just hit the ground and bounced away randomly. If it can't, then it would count every bail as something crazy. I really want to see this thing in action to figure out stuff like that.
Yeah, if you can, try and share some footage of it if you can!
PIG makes a re-thread tool i think
we need a new 2022 one of these!
sweet new intro!
Trap Hole agreed! It looks very smooth and slick!
Thanks! I made a couple videos about my old animation somewhere on this channel. I figured I might as well make myself something cool to help grab peoples' attention.
Hi I noticed you have a copy of the new world translation. is it safe to assume your a brother?
make another one of these videos...hell make it a mini series lol or like a 5 pt series
Daewon needs those trucks
the sliplayer is probably teflon or a variant of teflon.
With the Ride Block, if no one was around you could just spin it however, jump and do some bullshit, just use your hands like a giant handboard and get credit for all these amazing tricks, or does it somehow know? Also if it has any sorta GPS technology itd make it awful easy for cops to locate you out street skating
my first board was world industry devel guy on bottom with the slick coating, it was a layer of some kind of plastic nearly as thick as a ply. it worked great, and kept the graphics on a long time one of the only boards i never snaped too, tricks are different when your are rolling square wheels are for sissies thats so lame never seen that
I thought abec had more to do with tolerances between the race and the ball bearings, not just the roundess of the ball bearings.
BucketsAMF you're absolutely right. Abec is still conpletely useless for skateboarding though.
Yeah yeah I get that, just wasn't sure if my understanding of abec was correct or not.
I bet someday we will have data loggers with accelerometers, gyroscopes etc on boards that will tell you what tricks you've landed, speed, rotations, manual durations etc.
Lol, guess I should have finished the vid before making that comment :/
u should do the cc on ur screen smaller bro, i hate those carbon decks
They should give that trick tracker to Olli Feveng and watch it self-distruct.
Haha, that wouldn't even be fair. It's like testing out a self-driving car on an F1 circuit
how about tensor trucks, anybody ever had those? with a plastic little grind plate for nose/tail slides, they were black the plastic plate was orange... it just broke off instantly for me. those were rodney mullen design truk i think. and i used to break king pins all the time on my independants i switched to ventures and it never happened
I had tensors for a while. I hated the bushings and swapped them out. Didn't notice much difference over normal trucks though.
They were nothing special really plus the Kingpin was like specialized so you had to actually order a new Kingpin from tensor instead of just going to the skate shop that was pretty wack too. If I remember correctly. After going through independent cancer couple of the randoms I ended up liking venture and Royal they were the only ones that didn't fall apart on me or the axles we get all stripped up on the threads from Landing Primo as always a pain in the ass to
chris trull i had the same problems i only skated independent for a long time as a beginner once i started hitting ledges kingpins broke to often i switched to tensors but they were to tall i switch between royal lows and thunder now
ride block is cool but I don't like anything on my board like stickers or stuff under it. it's all mental really. I've tried to put stickers on my board and if I know their there then I can't skate normal. nothing can by on my board except for the parts
Keeps this up
Will do! I'll just need more suggestions from you guys. I'm pretty tapped out on new tech stuff for now.
+Rad Rat Video you should check out Black Steel bearing lube oil
Dude I think your time stamp is a bit off... 8:52:00?
It's supposed to be 8 minutes, 52 seconds. I think I wrote it as 8 hours and 52 minutes. I'll fix them. Thanks for the heads up.
Rad Rat Video no problem just Keep up the history of skateboarding..
If everyone bought blank decks, skateboarding would not die. However, professional skateboarding would since pros would not make a salary and professional companies would go bankrupt. Either way, people would still be skateboarding, which is good.
I destroyed my plan b blk ice so fast it was crazy. Also all I did was flatground. It was a pudwill
Really? What happened to it? Did it delaminate?
No it had no chipping whatsoever, untill about a month of use i had one large chip. But what happened is the tail kind of disappeared, instead of getting razortail. Like i ended up losing about 3 inches off of the tail size, so it really ruined my ability to do anything.
That's really weird! I probably won't be picking one up then..
fingerboard grip is the stuff on diver suits
Nice video RR. Do you fingerboard v
I used to be really into it. Now it just sits at my desk and I do a couple tre flips here and there while I'm thinking about stuff.
James Price yeah !
Same dude. I used to like making videos but now its just basically a desk ornament
Most of my friends ride kapedecks
What do they think of them?
Watching this in 2021. Where is the confident guy with the killer hairstyle?
P.S. I'm surprised I don't see a comment from my old RUclips profile here.
Oust isn’t even a company anymore :-(
Don't recomend Oust bearings, used 9 moc, they broked easy, I think they are for longboard, not for street skateboarding.
I bought skater trainers and I DO NOT RECOMMEND THEM TO BEGINNERS
trick tape. for skate shoes
Look for No Rip grip
Will do! Thanks for the tip.
i dont think skater trainers are that usefull because you should try to learn tricks rolling as early as possible i myself only learned ollies stationary
Skate trainers are dumb. Just tighten your wheels to all hell. Boom. Stationary board.
25 down a hill
Nah fastest is 70
25-55 for downhill racing
get rails
The Ride Block will be useless, it's just another product riding the wave of useless and needless bluetooth devices that pair with an app. For everyone one useful bluetooth/app device, there's 1,000 ridiculous ones. There's no objective number that will ever tell you how good you're skateboarding, the one thing this might be useful for is fine tuning your foot positioning for maximum pop or highest ollie, but even then who knows if the data is accurate since I'm sure it's all accelerometer based and I doubt you can consistently identify height to the inch with that method, especially with a board that's rotating and pivoting.
Why in the fuck would you want to go as fast as speed of sound? You going to open a portal or something?You going to regret buying abec watch if it ever happens
Gotta german here who wants to die for his country.."oblige him"!!
Are you vegan?
Yes, for 3 years
Nice mate :)
Oh shit waddup
aron have u noticed alot of ppl in the skateboarding industry are going vegan? some of the baker boys lol
Geoff Rowley and ed Templeton been vegan since the 90s, Ryan lays got that new vegan shoe- there was the Mike valley barnyard deck Too, veganism n skating go hand n hand
servant shoes is the worst shoes i have ever tried.
+Linus Ekström Really? They aren't durable or what?
I did not enjoy this video. Not very objective at all.
stick to video games
you don't look like you skate.are you an actor?
i dont think skater trainers are that usefull because you should try to learn tricks rolling as early as possible i myself only learned ollies stationary