Bin auch deutscher und folge dir schon seit Jahren. Echt geil zu sehen wie sich zwei meiner Online Welten hier treffen. Ich hoffe du kommst nochmal wieder. Du hast Dans Energie perfekt gematcht in AE lol
Ranton added so much life to Bridges and AE and is really good at being entertaining. I never knew that families in China often sent their kids to Kung Fu schools as an alternative to one of the high-end schools if they couldn't afford it. I hope that despite the stuff concerning AE, he keeps coming back on. He's really interesting. He gave us even more insight, after Huey Li, into what China's really like when you're living there too.
I enjoyed seeing two sides of the same guest from the differing formats. Bridges went deep into who and what is Ran. Anything Else was three dudes vibing and shooting the shit. I listened hard with the former and laughed hard with the latter.
Dude, I appreciate you. I remind my son to live for himself, enjoy for himself, but to be considerate, polite, respectful to others and to share. You remind me of that.
This was a great conversation with Ranton. I think you should have shown pictures of the Temple and videos of Ranton doing his performance. The T.V. is right there! 😂
This guy has such a specific conversational style that reminds me exactly of my one friend who talks the same way. It’s really fun to listen to his interactions with Steven.
Wowzer! True!! Congratulations! Thats actually the literal purpose in having both podcasts 😮 otherwise they would just do one. Crazy right? Almost like its completely intentional, and even advertised / promoted as such.
Safe Edgy... could be part of what in Germany we call "Gratismut" (free courage) basically displaying the utmost courage in the face of absolutely no danger/opposition whatsoever (like a complete idiot).
Yeah, sure... Never seen that word before... Good to watch an American Podcast and then learn what kind of vocabulary German conservatives use to feel better about themselves.
Got introduced to rantons videos a couple years ago and i can only say this guy is litteraly the funniest and best Videogame reviewer on RUclips. He makes quick funny edited reviews with a bang. No boring shit but genuinly bangers. And he does it on his own. I think many reviewers are either boring or just turned coorporate or just went stale like angry joe. But ranton is absolute fresh Wind.
Destiny seemed very curious to ask Ranton about China and Chinese politics, but Ranton isn't really in that world or has a deeper understanding of it. I would recommend he check out the Sinica podcast and the guests on that show. Maybe even have people like Kaiser Kuo, Jeremy Goldkorn, Peter Hessler etc on the show to ask them. It is strange that China is becoming the most mentioned foreign country in American politics, but no one knows anything about the country and its history or political system. The only voices I hear are the China hawks who want a war and that is insane and dangerous.
Love the sinica podcast, good recommendation for guests, though a lot of their guests are academics or involved in politics and may not be willing to come on a destiny show.
@@frostkanalas on rantons stream he went over his experience before the podcasts. Basically he got there 30minutes early and was waiting outside for quite a while and no one responded to his messages. While at the studio they spent an hour or so setting up. Overall it felt unprofessional but the podcast itself was one of the best so far.
Instead of the goal of the podcast being about building bridges with people you disagree with. Maybe the goal of the podcast should be about growing a large enough network of people in different fields that can agree with you to boost everyone's credibility when it comes to things like debunking missinformation which then forces those that disagree to come forward and debate. Also seems to fit the types of guests that have been on so far pretty well.
I watch Ranton since 5 years and now finding out that he has a very intelligent take on politics and is an even bigger politics nerd than me makes me appreciate him even more!
The only conversation I want to have with Steven is why he doesn't like the Alien prequels. I am super biased and love them, and I don't want to debate him on them. Though, I am an Alien Trivia Night kind of guy. I'd be interested to find out if it's more to do with narrative structure or shot composition or perhaps something more complicated. Either way, it would be an interesting discussion.
As someone who lives in South America, I cried a bit internally at the whole part about just showing up and things just happening. You win this one, first world
1:20:00 - This is something I noticed around that time as well. I remember places like 4chan used to be where you would go to say outlandish shit and pretend to be a bigoted moron. The problem is that after a while, actual bigoted morons who were too stupid to understand irony or sarcasm found it, and they just went "Oh, I've found my people." Also, that same swing to the right he was talking about in Germany is also happening in Scandinavian countries like Sweden for exactly the same reasons he mentioned. Unfortunately, it's happening all over Europe, and all over the world in general as a response to globalism, and like Ranton was saying, the left's general reluctance to talk about it definitely hasn't helped because it's allowing the absolute worst people to control the narrative.
I think we’re seeing the Democrat party correct on the issue. Partly because it’s the only policy that Republicans run on and part because it’s a very easy correction to earn votes. We can acknowledge the strain immigrants put onto communities and put policies into protecting the borders. I’m not certain what you do for truly xenophobic people because they’re incompatible with liberty. Perhaps you make English the official language of the US and encourage immigrants to adopt American culture.
The guy who sat in a cave staring at the wall and taught the monks how to exercise is the Bodhidharma, a Buddhist monk from India who traveled to China. You'll often see drawings of him in Karate dojos and the like.
I don't think a dictator is the main problem with a social credit system. It just seems to me like unless you implement it in a vacuum its just asking for systemic oppression. Even with small things like littering, leaving the carts out, or missing an appointment, the people who are guilty of these probably tend to be poorer, less privileged and uneducated. Instead of improving the undesirable behaviours, social credit would probably just send these people into a negative feedback loop.
Yeah, he is correct that "theoretically" it could be a good system. But "realistically" that system could never exist in a purely beneficial way. And it also would incentivize people who have made bad decisions in their life early on to just commit to being a bad person totally because they feel socially bankrupt/irredeemable. In some ways this is already an issue now, and it would be radically worse if social credit was quantified. Especially inside such a heavy capitalist society, where we are incentivized to find any and all potential for monetary gain, the system itself would be under constant attack to be tweaked to benefit those with power to continue holding and accruing power, rather than to actually hold society to a morally beneficial standard. Everything inside of a society exists in a constant tug-of-war against parties of selfishness and fairness, and unfortunately, the selfish side pretty much always wins out historically. AKA corruption. This is mainly due to the fact that the party of fairness gets complacent when things are good. But the selfish side never becomes complacent and is always on the attack. And so they always have an advantage. And it is this cycle of complacency and non-complacency that drives the cultural pendulum.
This is what I love about Ranton - His videos make him seem like a raving madman, but he's actually very intelligent and well-spoken, I'm glad this episode is out, it's not often we get to see that side of him.
2:01:50 same thing in Sweden unfortunately. The only party here willing to tackle immigration is doing it in a hateful manner, but since they are the only ones willing to tackle the topic, people who think there is an issue will rally to them. They have become the second largest party in Sweden. Either way, great show guys, was very enjoyable to listen to!
I am with you guys big time on the comedy discussion. I am a comedy enjoyer, I watch Kill Tony quite often, roasting people for all sorts of reasons is very funny if done in the right context and kept ultimately light-hearted. The point about people who joke about the same topic makes you start to question whether they’re jokes or not I think is something people should be more aware of. A smart comedian doesn’t go edgy very often, because at best the edginess loses its comedic value and at worst it goes too far. Does anyone ever say the best joke they’ve ever heard was racist, sexist, etc. because I don’t think that’s the case for me. The funniest jokes I can think of by comedians are not at the expense of any particular group, really.
Oh man, Kill Tony is the worst. It stinks of insecurity, nepotism, and unoriginality. It's fine you enjoy it but I reckon it'll become tiresome for you in not that long.
I've seen a lot of people on Kill Tony who aren't funny but get carried by racial humor. Kill Tony very much feels like the type of crowd to carry that weight for them because it seems like they see themselves as the last people/comics who can make edgy jokes. It seems to get worse and worse every time I see a clip.
I can see where yall are coming from, but on the flip side of this discussion I do think there are alot of people out there who are indeed overly sensitive. As I mentioned, roasting people can be very funny in the right context, as can every form of humor. Just like there is a middle ground for the comedians to strive for in their “edginess-ratio,” so too do the consumers of comedy need to remember that in the end, it is just about making people laugh and forget about their tribulations for a while. Hurtful jokes can be hurtful, no shit. But it’s up to both sides to handle the matter in a mature manner. A grown man whining and crying on the internet about a joke they don’t like is pathetic. The vast majority of these situations, I’d wager, is mostly due to oversensitivity on the part of the viewer. BUT that doesn’t downplay the situations where people are just insulted and not laughing. Just like Ranton said, you have the power to make any joke you want, but I have the power to find it stupid, unfunny, and therefore just bigoted. WHICH BTW, is how it largely works in the comedy world including on Kill Tony. If you get up there and make a racist/sexist joke and nobody laughs….oh boy you’re in for it. Comedy sort of polices itself in that manner, to a degree. Real comedians and enthusiasts don’t find shticky edgy humor particularly funny or interesting, at least not for long.
@@sagenod440 I don't think it has to do with sensitivity. In fact I don't think people are as sensitive as most people like to claim. Saying people are just sensitive is just another way to avoid criticism imo. Kill Tony very much feels like a good amount of the comics there are trying to write edgy jokes because that is what people in that crowd want to hear. It feels like being funny comes second. If you compare Kill Tony to amateurs at Laugh Factory it's a night and day difference. I've seen a woman on Kill Tony look like she just got through doing meth and all she did was say a bunch of racist shit that didn't string together in any kind of way and was well received. She was damn near slurring like she was drunk but nobody cared because she did the thing. She said the taboos! I agree that comedy and comedians check itself but a lot of it goes unchecked. Let's not be naive. People thought western politics checks itself through freedom of speech and battle of ideas but look at the landscape now. Russian influenced talking points from a bunch of conservatards lying. And they have MASSIVE following. Kill Tony feels like the comedy version except of course not political or Russia influenced. Kill Tony is very much the crowd of "fuck cancel culture. Freedom of speech. It's just a joke. You are too sensitive. we can't tell these type of jokes anymore. We used to be able to... we are being it back. Etc." like how everyone loves to spin it without realizing they aren't part of a small niche group of freedom fighters. They are part of a disillusioned hoard. I'd much rather watch the laugh factory because those comedians actually put in effort towards their jokes they aren't just free balling edgy jokes that sound like they came from 4chan
@@brian1436 Well we can agree to disagree on the degree to which people are being overly-sensitive (on the internet in particular) but as for the example on KT, I’m curious who you’re talking about exactly. I know there have been plenty of people to have blatantly racist sets that I don’t find funny, and I think that’s quite often the sentiment of the rest of the audience, which becomes a point of criticism which the judges can use to roast the comedian, especially when the jokes aren’t funny. I can’t really speak on the general audience in terms of their political views, but this is a show in Austin, Texas we’re talking about. It’s actually a very diverse city but there’s a lot of casual MAGA republicans in Texas. I’ve lived here my whole life and love the state but the amount of Trump followers is disconcerting. So yeah, KT leans right, obnoxiously at times. But I think people should remember not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. For edgy humor, you know which regular does it the most? Hans Kim, who made it his whole schtick and happens to be the worst-regarded regular to the point where many believe he should have been replaced by another comedian. While I certainly understand the cringe and frustrating aspect you’re referring to with regards to the right’s prevalent anti-woke sentiments and “freedom of speech; it’s just a joke” defense, to this point I would say not to necessarily let that fact define your overall perspective of the show if you so choose. If you’ve seen the show as much as I have, you’ll know that it remains light-hearted at the core. That not to say they don’t go overboard, but most of the time when a currently left-leaning centrist like me has the opinion that something is too racist, sexist, etc. the rest of the people at the show will feel the same way. Bad energy is bad energy, and that’s what makes the biggest difference in stand up comedy
2:02:00 what ranton is talking about here is also the same situation in portugal. none of the parties want to talk about immigration except for one, which talks about it in the same way that ranton mentioned, extremely xenophobic. and because they're the only ones who talk about the subject it's the one people end up listening to, while other parties sweep it under the rug because they're too scared to address it or even whisper it. before the last elections this party wasn't something to worry about, but since last elections they're not something to be ignored anymore. their approval rating went from bellow 5% to nearly 30% in a single election. although they didn't win, they still came out the party with the highest growth. it's definitely concerning
Yeah as someone from the UK who was not clued into what Brexit was when it was happening I Feel cheated that I did not get to vote. We fucked it up massively, and even though I wasn't someone who voted I cant help but feel responsible for how this country has developed since then.
bro we basically have a social credit score in germany.. the shufa collects information about people and gives you a score and than for example banks decide if you get a loan based on that score. In some points similar to that what we know about the chinese system
I don't allow my kids to use social media platforms. I've blocked everything on their devices. Also, kids don't need it. Kids usually meet in chats with their friends.
In the discussion about local parties and councils. What people fear is not to get involved but not to be involved in the wrong party and the end up on an echo chamber, i feel like.
unironically the best episode. interesting discussion, actually new perspectives on things like schools in china, banter and chemistry. get him again but for the love of god dont make him waste hours and hours waiting on your setup bullshit past the agreed upon time
Big +1 to social credit for things like littering, screaming in public, and all the rude crap, and of course you should be able to increase it with things like volunteering, etc. The ID on social media 1000% should be a requirement, no more troll or bot accounts.
I can't with Signs. These aliens were smart enough to come across the vast emptiness of space only to land on a planet almost entirely covered in water and walk around on said planet with zero protection like a suit or something. If it rained the first night, the movie would have been over. I can't unknow it, it ruins it for me. I will say it's a great movie in a lot of other ways though, I just can't take it seriously at all.
I think rewarding people for doing the right things is a good motivational tool now for people who do bad things shouldn't be punished and it effect your score because this gives institutions way more power than needed and we alredy have thing called laws and fines that is supposed to dencentivise people from doing bad things, now I again state the point in rewarding good behavior would indeed add you a net positive for communities. Like tax breaks rewards movies or live like a millionaire for a week or even a discount on plane tickets stuff like that I very much think that's a system we need, however they punishment aspect is quite terrifying and could be easily abused.
You should see if you can get a conversation with Rory Stuart (ex UK MP) on. He's a centrist who heavily criticises the institutions after being within them for over 9 years but wants then to succeed still.
This is a very good interview! I don't practice Shaolin anything, but I do practice Taijiquan and there is a similar problem in internal martial arts - too much charlatanry and commercialization
The last 3 bridges episodes have been amazing, great guests, both known and unknown, really interesting conversations about subjects that i wouldn't have thought to look up on my own. Just nice to have some Destiny content with good vibes where the people hes talking too aren't so regarded and programmed by rightwing talking points that they couldnt pass a Captcha.
Shaolin is changing a little bit, combat wushu/ sanshou has been increasing in popularity over the last few decades. As it continues down this path the god complexes in the world of kung fu get weeded out.
Tha conversation at the end about US and European Union and what the future holds for liberal democracy was quite a downer. The antiestablishment ppl on both the left and right don’t know how good we have it, doesn’t mean things can’t get better, but we truly need to do a better job at believing and standing up for democracy and its institutions.
The problem with prisons (especially in USA) is privatization specifically run for profit. Literally profiting from crime. It incentivises prison share holders to keep inmates imprisoned, rather than rehabilitating them. Furthering recidivism.
Thanks for having me! Was a great time ❤
Fantastic person
Liar!
Dr. A. Egon Cholakian knows what you said, and sends his regards.
hope u will have chance to come again
I'm sorry you had to go through this 🙏
Bin auch deutscher und folge dir schon seit Jahren. Echt geil zu sehen wie sich zwei meiner Online Welten hier treffen. Ich hoffe du kommst nochmal wieder. Du hast Dans Energie perfekt gematcht in AE lol
4 minutes in and after the Anything Else chaos and this start I can confidently say that we need more Ranton on stream in the future.
You can tell this podcast is ran very professionally and on time
They always stay on topic and never do random tangents like dogs chasing squirrels.
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LOL
@@GolemRising How about Dogwarts?
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Ranton added so much life to Bridges and AE and is really good at being entertaining. I never knew that families in China often sent their kids to Kung Fu schools as an alternative to one of the high-end schools if they couldn't afford it. I hope that despite the stuff concerning AE, he keeps coming back on. He's really interesting. He gave us even more insight, after Huey Li, into what China's really like when you're living there too.
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@@GIGACHAD148 Anything Else, the show that Destiny is doing with Dan. I don't know anything about "the stuff concerning" Anything Else though.
@@6JLU ik anythin else,but u just tellin me this made me realize that it totally slipped my mind that ae was anything else lol
@@6JLU Destiny admitted that they screwed up and weren't very attentive/responsive when he got there lol
I get it that dggrs get a religious experience was they see a minority interact with destiny but chill, he was just okay
DAmN, RANton is such an interesting guest!
Banger
The biggest bang for
And just like that ranton completely undone all the work they did on upgrading his drip.
We are kicking Steven from the show if he showed up in sweats and T-shirt.
Kyla rocking the 80s metal fan hair + leather jacket
Getting ready for Halloween.
The beginning of this episode has taught me something. I’d rather listen to erudite derail than Dan.
although i love Dan, this is so true
Your feeble mind fell prey to the simplest of manipulation
@@naromithril
There are people who love Dan?
@ToveriJuri i love Dan't.
@@ToveriJuri Listen, Dan is like the friend that you hate when he's around, but miss when he's gone.
Dan, please address the allegations (the "dan ran" allegations)
It rhymes so it's true, I don't know what else there's to say about it
@@resir9807 resir9807 caused 9/11
Danton
What was your favorite part of Ranton on Bridges and Anything Else?
@@BridgesStudio when Dan ran
Ranton himself
when he talked about shaolin
I enjoyed seeing two sides of the same guest from the differing formats.
Bridges went deep into who and what is Ran. Anything Else was three dudes vibing and shooting the shit. I listened hard with the former and laughed hard with the latter.
The banter, would love to see him on Anything Else again
"There are 14 Pandas left in the world."
-Destiny 😂😂
Great ep, love Ranton, his AE ep was great too 👌
Joe rogan 350 comedians moment
Dude, I appreciate you.
I remind my son to live for himself, enjoy for himself, but to be considerate, polite, respectful to others and to share. You remind me of that.
Thank you
This is so refreshing to listen to, more of a fun one but still informative. Would love more “fun” guests like this
as a fan from 2018. i really admire this man. its like i see my online friend becoming successful. his laugh is infectious
Right there with you buddy. Rantoni Peperoni is the greatest 🤝🏻
This was a great conversation with Ranton. I think you should have shown pictures of the Temple and videos of Ranton doing his performance. The T.V. is right there! 😂
He hates watching his own content he told destiny and dan to not even try showing his channel or pulling up his videos
This guy has such a specific conversational style that reminds me exactly of my one friend who talks the same way. It’s really fun to listen to his interactions with Steven.
Ranton is chill AF considering his life experiences so far.
"Aren't there like 14 pandas in the world?" fucking killed me
Dan ran
Both podcasts with Ranton is great in their own way, but the difference between having Dan or Erudite as a cohost is a huge LMAO
Wowzer! True!! Congratulations! Thats actually the literal purpose in having both podcasts 😮 otherwise they would just do one. Crazy right? Almost like its completely intentional, and even advertised / promoted as such.
@@JustAPriapism Chill bro...
@@JustAPriapism Chill bro...
@@falconstip9273
Chili ho...
Love this guy. Such a great energy. Loves playing along and having a good time. Have him back!
Dan still running 😭😂
This might be the best Bridges so far. Such good chemistry between Destiny/Erudite and Ranton.
Safe Edgy... could be part of what in Germany we call "Gratismut" (free courage) basically displaying the utmost courage in the face of absolutely no danger/opposition whatsoever (like a complete idiot).
Sounds right. Safe edgy/free courage is like a comedian making a trans joke in a rural town.
Yeah, sure... Never seen that word before... Good to watch an American Podcast and then learn what kind of vocabulary German conservatives use to feel better about themselves.
@@Dodovacer Lol it's a good term for what you see all over the place online and in real life
Ranton is the kind of guy that gets me to listen to a podcast by Destiny.
Edit: watching Ranton a year or two
Today discovered he's Anton.
Ranton is better than Dan ----> Those who agree 🗿 Respect button
Did you guys hear that Dan is running? Bought a new pair of Nikes just for the occasion
Okay now this is unbelievable. I mean Dan spending money and not on Intel?
lol Ranton destroying 2 years of fashion advice in 2 minutes.
Got introduced to rantons videos a couple years ago and i can only say this guy is litteraly the funniest and best Videogame reviewer on RUclips. He makes quick funny edited reviews with a bang. No boring shit but genuinly bangers. And he does it on his own. I think many reviewers are either boring or just turned coorporate or just went stale like angry joe. But ranton is absolute fresh Wind.
Ranton is great but the little guy named destiny, lol, is insufferable.
I typically won’t watch anything with Destiny in it, but I’ll make an exception for Ranton
Destiny seemed very curious to ask Ranton about China and Chinese politics, but Ranton isn't really in that world or has a deeper understanding of it. I would recommend he check out the Sinica podcast and the guests on that show. Maybe even have people like Kaiser Kuo, Jeremy Goldkorn, Peter Hessler etc on the show to ask them. It is strange that China is becoming the most mentioned foreign country in American politics, but no one knows anything about the country and its history or political system. The only voices I hear are the China hawks who want a war and that is insane and dangerous.
Love the sinica podcast, good recommendation for guests, though a lot of their guests are academics or involved in politics and may not be willing to come on a destiny show.
Guys, Dan apologized already on rantons stream. No need to perpetuate any drama. It was a fun episode and he’s invited back to a future one.
What happened, I watched both podcasts fully and didn't see like a fallout type thing?
@@frostkanalas on rantons stream he went over his experience before the podcasts. Basically he got there 30minutes early and was waiting outside for quite a while and no one responded to his messages. While at the studio they spent an hour or so setting up. Overall it felt unprofessional but the podcast itself was one of the best so far.
@@ericc7286 oh yeye, i just watched a video of ranton and dan talking
"Hey Ranton, don't look at yourself in the monitor."
She proceeds to look at herself in the monitor every 2 seconds. lol
I lost track of the intro to when it turned into an episode, god i love all 3 of them right now! So funny!
This podcast is gross why the hell is this shit on my recommendations. Didn’t know he was on this shit on sad.
Toad style is immensely strong and immune to nearly any weapon. When it's properly used, it's almost invincible.
Even guns?
no, its made for performance, nobody has every fought with animal styles
great video, became a fan of ranton's videos after watching him on AE and bridges.
Instead of the goal of the podcast being about building bridges with people you disagree with. Maybe the goal of the podcast should be about growing a large enough network of people in different fields that can agree with you to boost everyone's credibility when it comes to things like debunking missinformation which then forces those that disagree to come forward and debate. Also seems to fit the types of guests that have been on so far pretty well.
THIS
I guinenly love bridges, right amount of funny with perfect amount of interviewing the guest
I love this side of ranton so much. He's clearly very considerate and well informed.
I watch Ranton since 5 years and now finding out that he has a very intelligent take on politics and is an even bigger politics nerd than me makes me appreciate him even more!
Sams
Best episode so far Ranton is a fantastic guest
Some might say Dan Ran… a ton.
The only conversation I want to have with Steven is why he doesn't like the Alien prequels. I am super biased and love them, and I don't want to debate him on them. Though, I am an Alien Trivia Night kind of guy. I'd be interested to find out if it's more to do with narrative structure or shot composition or perhaps something more complicated.
Either way, it would be an interesting discussion.
As someone who lives in South America, I cried a bit internally at the whole part about just showing up and things just happening. You win this one, first world
I remember when Ranton disappeared, now this year bros popping out everywhere. Love to see it
1:20:00 - This is something I noticed around that time as well. I remember places like 4chan used to be where you would go to say outlandish shit and pretend to be a bigoted moron.
The problem is that after a while, actual bigoted morons who were too stupid to understand irony or sarcasm found it, and they just went "Oh, I've found my people."
Also, that same swing to the right he was talking about in Germany is also happening in Scandinavian countries like Sweden for exactly the same reasons he mentioned. Unfortunately, it's happening all over Europe, and all over the world in general as a response to globalism, and like Ranton was saying, the left's general reluctance to talk about it definitely hasn't helped because it's allowing the absolute worst people to control the narrative.
I think we’re seeing the Democrat party correct on the issue. Partly because it’s the only policy that Republicans run on and part because it’s a very easy correction to earn votes.
We can acknowledge the strain immigrants put onto communities and put policies into protecting the borders. I’m not certain what you do for truly xenophobic people because they’re incompatible with liberty. Perhaps you make English the official language of the US and encourage immigrants to adopt American culture.
I wouldn’t consider him “left”. He has said before that so many teachers being liberal is a problem and diminishes ideas.
they are swinging right due to insane left politics like the immigrants and lgbt for example, its crazy that the change is only happening now
been digging his game reviews, very much appreciate getting introduced to this guy
I love RANTON! Thanks for having him on the podcast
Great guest have him back again!
The guy who sat in a cave staring at the wall and taught the monks how to exercise is the Bodhidharma, a Buddhist monk from India who traveled to China. You'll often see drawings of him in Karate dojos and the like.
I don't think a dictator is the main problem with a social credit system. It just seems to me like unless you implement it in a vacuum its just asking for systemic oppression. Even with small things like littering, leaving the carts out, or missing an appointment, the people who are guilty of these probably tend to be poorer, less privileged and uneducated. Instead of improving the undesirable behaviours, social credit would probably just send these people into a negative feedback loop.
Yeah, he is correct that "theoretically" it could be a good system. But "realistically" that system could never exist in a purely beneficial way. And it also would incentivize people who have made bad decisions in their life early on to just commit to being a bad person totally because they feel socially bankrupt/irredeemable. In some ways this is already an issue now, and it would be radically worse if social credit was quantified. Especially inside such a heavy capitalist society, where we are incentivized to find any and all potential for monetary gain, the system itself would be under constant attack to be tweaked to benefit those with power to continue holding and accruing power, rather than to actually hold society to a morally beneficial standard.
Everything inside of a society exists in a constant tug-of-war against parties of selfishness and fairness, and unfortunately, the selfish side pretty much always wins out historically. AKA corruption. This is mainly due to the fact that the party of fairness gets complacent when things are good. But the selfish side never becomes complacent and is always on the attack. And so they always have an advantage. And it is this cycle of complacency and non-complacency that drives the cultural pendulum.
This is what I love about Ranton - His videos make him seem like a raving madman, but he's actually very intelligent and well-spoken, I'm glad this episode is out, it's not often we get to see that side of him.
Dont let ranton talk about anime or the japanese, thats all you need for this podcast to be good.
2:01:50 same thing in Sweden unfortunately. The only party here willing to tackle immigration is doing it in a hateful manner, but since they are the only ones willing to tackle the topic, people who think there is an issue will rally to them. They have become the second largest party in Sweden. Either way, great show guys, was very enjoyable to listen to!
So glad @realranton got this exposure!
bro ranton is as big as destiny if not bigger. Lol what exposure?
@@firebreathercat133 new audience. I don't think the crossover is significant, so a lot of new eyes.
I am with you guys big time on the comedy discussion. I am a comedy enjoyer, I watch Kill Tony quite often, roasting people for all sorts of reasons is very funny if done in the right context and kept ultimately light-hearted. The point about people who joke about the same topic makes you start to question whether they’re jokes or not I think is something people should be more aware of. A smart comedian doesn’t go edgy very often, because at best the edginess loses its comedic value and at worst it goes too far. Does anyone ever say the best joke they’ve ever heard was racist, sexist, etc. because I don’t think that’s the case for me. The funniest jokes I can think of by comedians are not at the expense of any particular group, really.
Oh man, Kill Tony is the worst. It stinks of insecurity, nepotism, and unoriginality. It's fine you enjoy it but I reckon it'll become tiresome for you in not that long.
I've seen a lot of people on Kill Tony who aren't funny but get carried by racial humor.
Kill Tony very much feels like the type of crowd to carry that weight for them because it seems like they see themselves as the last people/comics who can make edgy jokes. It seems to get worse and worse every time I see a clip.
I can see where yall are coming from, but on the flip side of this discussion I do think there are alot of people out there who are indeed overly sensitive. As I mentioned, roasting people can be very funny in the right context, as can every form of humor. Just like there is a middle ground for the comedians to strive for in their “edginess-ratio,” so too do the consumers of comedy need to remember that in the end, it is just about making people laugh and forget about their tribulations for a while.
Hurtful jokes can be hurtful, no shit. But it’s up to both sides to handle the matter in a mature manner. A grown man whining and crying on the internet about a joke they don’t like is pathetic. The vast majority of these situations, I’d wager, is mostly due to oversensitivity on the part of the viewer. BUT that doesn’t downplay the situations where people are just insulted and not laughing. Just like Ranton said, you have the power to make any joke you want, but I have the power to find it stupid, unfunny, and therefore just bigoted. WHICH BTW, is how it largely works in the comedy world including on Kill Tony. If you get up there and make a racist/sexist joke and nobody laughs….oh boy you’re in for it. Comedy sort of polices itself in that manner, to a degree. Real comedians and enthusiasts don’t find shticky edgy humor particularly funny or interesting, at least not for long.
@@sagenod440 I don't think it has to do with sensitivity. In fact I don't think people are as sensitive as most people like to claim. Saying people are just sensitive is just another way to avoid criticism imo.
Kill Tony very much feels like a good amount of the comics there are trying to write edgy jokes because that is what people in that crowd want to hear. It feels like being funny comes second. If you compare Kill Tony to amateurs at Laugh Factory it's a night and day difference. I've seen a woman on Kill Tony look like she just got through doing meth and all she did was say a bunch of racist shit that didn't string together in any kind of way and was well received. She was damn near slurring like she was drunk but nobody cared because she did the thing. She said the taboos!
I agree that comedy and comedians check itself but a lot of it goes unchecked. Let's not be naive. People thought western politics checks itself through freedom of speech and battle of ideas but look at the landscape now. Russian influenced talking points from a bunch of conservatards lying. And they have MASSIVE following. Kill Tony feels like the comedy version except of course not political or Russia influenced.
Kill Tony is very much the crowd of "fuck cancel culture. Freedom of speech. It's just a joke. You are too sensitive. we can't tell these type of jokes anymore. We used to be able to... we are being it back. Etc." like how everyone loves to spin it without realizing they aren't part of a small niche group of freedom fighters. They are part of a disillusioned hoard.
I'd much rather watch the laugh factory because those comedians actually put in effort towards their jokes they aren't just free balling edgy jokes that sound like they came from 4chan
@@brian1436 Well we can agree to disagree on the degree to which people are being overly-sensitive (on the internet in particular) but as for the example on KT, I’m curious who you’re talking about exactly. I know there have been plenty of people to have blatantly racist sets that I don’t find funny, and I think that’s quite often the sentiment of the rest of the audience, which becomes a point of criticism which the judges can use to roast the comedian, especially when the jokes aren’t funny.
I can’t really speak on the general audience in terms of their political views, but this is a show in Austin, Texas we’re talking about. It’s actually a very diverse city but there’s a lot of casual MAGA republicans in Texas. I’ve lived here my whole life and love the state but the amount of Trump followers is disconcerting. So yeah, KT leans right, obnoxiously at times. But I think people should remember not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. For edgy humor, you know which regular does it the most? Hans Kim, who made it his whole schtick and happens to be the worst-regarded regular to the point where many believe he should have been replaced by another comedian.
While I certainly understand the cringe and frustrating aspect you’re referring to with regards to the right’s prevalent anti-woke sentiments and “freedom of speech; it’s just a joke” defense, to this point I would say not to necessarily let that fact define your overall perspective of the show if you so choose. If you’ve seen the show as much as I have, you’ll know that it remains light-hearted at the core. That not to say they don’t go overboard, but most of the time when a currently left-leaning centrist like me has the opinion that something is too racist, sexist, etc. the rest of the people at the show will feel the same way. Bad energy is bad energy, and that’s what makes the biggest difference in stand up comedy
2:02:00 what ranton is talking about here is also the same situation in portugal. none of the parties want to talk about immigration except for one, which talks about it in the same way that ranton mentioned, extremely xenophobic. and because they're the only ones who talk about the subject it's the one people end up listening to, while other parties sweep it under the rug because they're too scared to address it or even whisper it. before the last elections this party wasn't something to worry about, but since last elections they're not something to be ignored anymore. their approval rating went from bellow 5% to nearly 30% in a single election. although they didn't win, they still came out the party with the highest growth. it's definitely concerning
"I do the same thing with Race." I laughed - hard.
My chinese hero friend german was on a podcast? I'm so proud Anton.
bro 6 mins into this podcast and its the most ive laughed all day. ranton and destiny together is comedy gold.
The first minutes started off super cringe, but it was one of the most wonderful episodes in the history of podcasts ever
2:45 Nobody got the Hulk reference haha
Yeah as someone from the UK who was not clued into what Brexit was when it was happening I Feel cheated that I did not get to vote. We fucked it up massively, and even though I wasn't someone who voted I cant help but feel responsible for how this country has developed since then.
nothing really changed tho lol
That's a good feeling to have. You have the right idea, and that's what's important imo.
conversations this loud are what I crave
Shaolin monk: i can breathe without thinking about it
This is really fun to watch. More like him
bro we basically have a social credit score in germany.. the shufa collects information about people and gives you a score and than for example banks decide if you get a loan based on that score.
In some points similar to that what we know about the chinese system
City Gate, Open Up
I don't allow my kids to use social media platforms. I've blocked everything on their devices. Also, kids don't need it. Kids usually meet in chats with their friends.
This is one of thoes out of the blue crossover epizodes that i did not know i needed.
The Tiger in the UFC part made me laugh....such a simple way of thinking I wish more folk would lean to when explaining things.
How often something happens matters to what degree of focus it should get as an issue. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about it being wrong or not.
Great episode, loved Ranton's views on comedy especially.
It's a soft r lmao the banter was awesome.
As a britbonger who was only old enough to vote post brexit, i completely relate to Rantons frustration about his native politics, dear god
In the discussion about local parties and councils. What people fear is not to get involved but not to be involved in the wrong party and the end up on an echo chamber, i feel like.
Producer Lycan can't SWITCH when Ranton asks him to!!! looool.
Amazing guest
unironically the best episode. interesting discussion, actually new perspectives on things like schools in china, banter and chemistry. get him again but for the love of god dont make him waste hours and hours waiting on your setup bullshit past the agreed upon time
Big +1 to social credit for things like littering, screaming in public, and all the rude crap, and of course you should be able to increase it with things like volunteering, etc. The ID on social media 1000% should be a requirement, no more troll or bot accounts.
I'm so happy ranton is getting the attention he deserves
it surprises me he hasnt seen the double meaning of RANT ON
Never expected Ranton and Destiny to interact
6:04 "look at you try harding" I love it bro 🤣
I can't with Signs. These aliens were smart enough to come across the vast emptiness of space only to land on a planet almost entirely covered in water and walk around on said planet with zero protection like a suit or something. If it rained the first night, the movie would have been over. I can't unknow it, it ruins it for me. I will say it's a great movie in a lot of other ways though, I just can't take it seriously at all.
even when i was a little kid i already noticed it, great thriller build up tho
I think rewarding people for doing the right things is a good motivational tool now for people who do bad things shouldn't be punished and it effect your score because this gives institutions way more power than needed and we alredy have thing called laws and fines that is supposed to dencentivise people from doing bad things, now I again state the point in rewarding good behavior would indeed add you a net positive for communities. Like tax breaks rewards movies or live like a millionaire for a week or even a discount on plane tickets stuff like that I very much think that's a system we need, however they punishment aspect is quite terrifying and could be easily abused.
This is some uniquely good banter. Very cool social interaction to observe as a self appointed anthropologist.
RANTONI PEPPERONI ANTONI lmao the intro had me cracking up the energy
I love Anton. It's nice watching him without all the spinning cameras and cuts.
Ranton should move to Miami and become a host.
You should see if you can get a conversation with Rory Stuart (ex UK MP) on. He's a centrist who heavily criticises the institutions after being within them for over 9 years but wants then to succeed still.
Stewart*
Ranton is right, as a Polish person, German politics makes me nervous too
I'm pretty sure this is the book ranton recommended "City Gate, Open Up" by Bei Dao
This is a very good interview! I don't practice Shaolin anything, but I do practice Taijiquan and there is a similar problem in internal martial arts - too much charlatanry and commercialization
The last 3 bridges episodes have been amazing, great guests, both known and unknown, really interesting conversations about subjects that i wouldn't have thought to look up on my own.
Just nice to have some Destiny content with good vibes where the people hes talking too aren't so regarded and programmed by rightwing talking points that they couldnt pass a Captcha.
Shaolin is changing a little bit, combat wushu/ sanshou has been increasing in popularity over the last few decades. As it continues down this path the god complexes in the world of kung fu get weeded out.
Tha conversation at the end about US and European Union and what the future holds for liberal democracy was quite a downer. The antiestablishment ppl on both the left and right don’t know how good we have it, doesn’t mean things can’t get better, but we truly need to do a better job at believing and standing up for democracy and its institutions.
we had it better like 10 years ago tho
The problem with prisons (especially in USA) is privatization specifically run for profit. Literally profiting from crime. It incentivises prison share holders to keep inmates imprisoned, rather than rehabilitating them. Furthering recidivism.