hey dudes - I want to quickly clarify some points, since it seems I didn't give them a proper explanation in the vid: 1) There are *definitely* items in TF2 that benefit teammates, such as Soldier banners, mad milk, sandvich, etc. These are great items but they are supplementary to each class "core" role - for example, a Soldier's "core" moveset is centered around high amounts of rocket damage. He has the ability to provide *minor* team buffs with buff banner (as a tradeoff for less shotgun damage) but his core kit is built to deal damage, not to buff teammates. By comparison, MANY Overwatch characters have a "core" moveset that is entirely based around benefiting teammates. Reinhardt's single most important move is his shield, and it DRAMATICALLY increases the power level and effectiveness of a team. TF2 Soldier can buff his team, but never in the core way that Reinhardt's character is designed to do, or Orisa with her shield, or Lucio with heal aura, or Dva with defense matrix, etc. The way I phrased this in the video sounded like TF2 characters have ZERO team buff abilities, which is obviously incorrect - that's a dumb oversight by me. The intended point was to compare Overwatch characters being fundamentally designed around team buffs, versus TF2 characters being fundamentally designed around damage output, but I should have worded this better. 2) I am aware competitive TF2 exists! I competed in a season of UGC Highlander, played a bunch of TF2 lobbies, watched tournaments, etc. TF2 is my most played videogame (1600 hours), so I've experienced every aspect of it. But in this video I was deliberately narrowing the focus to "Casual TF2" versus "Casual Overwatch", as I believe this is how 90% of players experience both games, and it's the part that I am personally drawn to. As I laid out in the video, I feel that the casual playstyle of these two games offer vastly different fundamental experiences. That being said, I think I failed to give competitive TF2 proper credit here, and even implied that competitive TF2 *cant* exist, which is absolutely not true. I love comp tf2, I will continue to play comp tf2, and absolutely didn't mean to shun the scene. With both points, I think I tried to oversimplify things and ended up leaving out major game elements in the process. I really do appreciate the feedback on these though - I'm brand new to the "video essay" format so I'm still making mistakes, but trying to improve at it as fast as I can and will keep trying to improve for future videos thanks again. Luv ya'll
First video I've watched of yours and I loved it from head to to...mato. Subscribed. I never played OW and I've been giving unnecessary hate towards it because I'm a hardcore tf2 fan who has 1800 hours. This helped bring some light to it so I can't hate it as much.
update on the current state of the restaurants: overwatch has shut down its first location to make a second one across the street while still serving the same foods. tf2's restaurant manager has said "hey I'm gonna go home for a bit ill leave the door and the lights on, jerry the janitor will make sure no-one breaks anything, have fun" and the restaurant hasnt 're-opened' but jerry has kept things interesting and the community is still having fun.
@@TheRedPheonix-fc7qo don't get your hopes high just yet maybe it's just some new maps with the summer crates update and no actual balance changes, we'll see I mean, just some new dishes with no actual changes to the flavors of the restaurant
One of my favorite things about tf2 is that when you do dumb shit there’s a heavy chance that someone will join you whether they’re on the enemy team or not
gunslinger engi still can play very aggressive and build teleports and protect his team by building minis to deny enemies jumping his medic or something
Hey, we battle engineers can actually support the team even more! Especially when you aren't playing payload or attack/defend. On the other maps battle engi is even more useful. Literally any map where you can both attack and defend is perfect for battle engi(KOTH and CTF,even CP with 2 teams trying to capture points and not only 1,even double PL).
Overwatch: "Hero's never die" TF2: "and when the patient woke up, his skeleton was missing, and the Doctor was never heard from again! Anyway... That's how I lost my medical license."
In OW, every person I’ve ever played with took the game incredibly seriously. In TF2, I once played with a guy who just sat in spawn and read Fahrenheit 451 into the voice chat the entire game. Safe to say, I prefer TF2
I joined one of the custom servers yesterday and there was this guy on the other team that whos name is Freddy Fazbear was playing the fnaf beatbox on the mic
Overwatch: That restaurant round the corner that’s failing because they’re trying to expand business very badly TF2: That one food truck which has been going around the town for decades without changing but is still extremely popular
and the food truck is filled with rats and the owners ignoring it, the food may taste the same but sometimes the customers food is accidentaly serve with rats, most of the customers leave but the loyal one persuade them to keep eating the food cause its good, but sooner or later the food truck will be shut down, because the owners kept ignoring the big problem or ironically small problems the rats. (this is on the bot situation on tf2 right now)
Actually, Killbinding is a tactical move. After one of your teammates intentionally misses all their shots in comedic fashion, they stand still and killbind, causing everyone within direct line of sight to succumb to "the funny", leaving the spy that's been cloaked in the corner for the last 20 minutes to capture the objective.
Fun fact: I used a Doug Doug style food analogy to explain the differences between the ways tf2 and overwatch have their characters and it was like this Playing a TF2 character is like buying a pizza, extremely customizable, you can play soldier normally with pepperoni’s and cheese and stuff OR you change into rocket jumper and parachute and eat Hawaiian Playing an Overwatch character however is like ordering a pre prepared meal from a restaurant, like sure you could totally eat that steak with your bare hands but you’re *supposed* to eat it with a knife and fork and as such Overwatch characters very much have a specific way of playing them that you’re *supposed* to do
@@viccyyboii3308 He did , he even said that he plays bots games and especially tf2 (both casually and competitively) and that he just oversimplified things for the sake of the video.Also you should remember that this isnt a true vs video since he does praise and critique both games quite leniently.
Quick update: Overwatch is like a restaurant but they use burnt oil and deliver everything late, also, the server ate 3/4 of the meal and is screaming at you because you didint gave him a 30$ tip for a shitty 4$ meal.
How poorly this video has aged, and it's an unfortunate case of Blizzard's negligence. Rest in Peace Overwatch 1, we will miss you. And... LONG LIVE TF2!
@@sninctbur3726 Yeah by overcharging people for the exact same dishes under the pretense of it being "new" when it actuality it's a minimalized shadow of what it once was.
@@thegreatgonzales6813 it's free to play now and the only things that are bought by money are skins and cosmetics. I don't play tf2 but how do u get the different load outs like wepons and such
@@thegreatgonzales6813 ??? The game is literally free now lol. They update it constantly and I’d say the game is in a MUCH better spot rn than before. Only thing that costs money is cosmetic. Doesn’t tf2 sell cosmetics too? Why is it such a big deal when ow does it lol
@@pon39490 Nothing wrong with cosmetics to an extent, but that isn't all Overwatch 2 did that pissed me and many other people off. It's that the game is practically identical to Overwatch 1 but worse in multiple ways. Now, things that were previously available are now locked behind a paywall and obtaining them through gameplay is clearly disincentivized seeing as players earn only 60 coins per week. Additionally, the prices for some of those cosmetics and their bundles are/were insane for only being a cosmetic. 5v5 was not what this game was built for, especially in regards to the characters. They were designed with 6v6 in mind and making the tank the primary player doesn't work as well as it could've if Blizzard reworked the heroes to be tailored to it. Every issue from the first game is still here. The game expects an unbelievable and unreasonable amount of cohesive communication between players in order to excel, even more than before now since matches are 5v5. The roll queue still exists for some fucking reason. TF2 has some insane prices for cosmetics. but those are in a league of their own and are more akin to trading cards than actual skins. Tf2 also has several weapons that can completely change how you play a class and have a direct effect on gameplay. The main difference between TF2's monetization and OW2's is that TF2 doesn't push it on to the player. It's completely fine to play both games without spending a cent on cosmetics but Overwatch 2 constantly shoves them in the player's face. Also, do not give me the "but it's free" argument. Remember Halo Infinite? Remember Diablo Immortal?
Hold up tf2 just added a new variation to the gas passer side dish It’s called Neon flavoured gas Maybe they’ll change some of the recipes of the dishes to make them taste better at least?
I'm a bit _late_ but i think Tf2 would be more comparable to a burger. every piece alone tastes great, and you don't need to change it, like a mea-vy (meat+heavy) is amazing alone. and some pieces tastes not as great alone, like med-bread, or cond-ineer (condiment + engineer). But can still be eaten differently, like battle med-ettes (baguettes). However, all together taste better, (in casual, sure mea-vy can taste fine alone, but with a med-bread, it makes it greater.) And you don't need everthing, you can have a mea-vy, a med-bread, maybe a cond-ineer if your on defense, but you don't need a pick-out (pickle+scout). It even goes farther like, having too much spy-matoes, can begin to taste bad, and for a stable team, you should probably have 2 med-breads.
@@insertjokehere212 no theres still bots. I just had a game with bots but the good side is that the match didn't have any actual players (but me sadly) plus if a bot joins an actual game the bot immediately gets kicked
Then there's overwatch 2, which is perfectly designed to _look_ tastier than the first cake, but then you take a bite and the frosting is just waxy (in a bad way), the cake itself is dense and tasteless, and then you go to leave and it turns out the single slice they gave you cost as much as the whole first cake, plus extra for the little chocolate flowers they added to make the plate look nice.
They can also be described as biting into what you think is a chocolate chip cookie, but it's actually just an oatmeal raisin cookie. Pure disappointment stuffed into a baked treat.
@@isaiaholaru5013Activision Blizzard have been on the news at times, since their working conditions within their company have been leaked. This resulted in many key employees in the company to flee, among them is the key leader of Overwatch.
The medic is definitely salt. Salt will give robust flavors to the chocolate and improve the overall clusterfuck of candy. You don’t obviously need the salt, but it’s so good you probably should add it. The engineer is like strawberry. They work sometimes with chocolate.
One of my favorite things about TF2 is they achieved game balance by making EVERY class overpowered. Any single TF2 class would be insane in almost any other game (especially at the time of its initial release). Heavy's main weapon is a minigun for God's sake, and spy can literally turn invisible and one-hit kill you, then pretend to be you and kill your team mates. That would be INSANE to add to any multi-player game, especially a competitive FPS... but then when you also have a guy with a fucking flame thrower that can repel projectiles, and a guy that can instantly heal any team mate and turn them invincible for a short time, all the insane overpowered bullshit, weirdly, start to balance each other out, which I think is part of the reason TF2 characters feel so good. If you're playing a TF2 class well, you feel like a god, or a badass video game end boss at the very least.. and when you die, it either feels like you didn't do good enough and you know it, or you can blame the other guy's overpowered nonsense. When you die in overwatch, you feel like an idiot, and people let you know it, and when you succeed you do so knowing a large part of that success came from good teamwork, not you alone.
Also, some maps and weapons in TF2 are specifically designed to let you dick around, like ttrlldier and it's satisfying every single time I get a market garden because I love rocket jumping.
To be fair, they also go, "Here's the phone number for the distributor we use, call em yourself." They give you complete freedom to create anything you possibly can in the engine. Just look at Saxton Hale, does that not count as a new character?
I feel like you could also describe tf2 using s’mores. They are all great on their own, you got the mallows and chocolate and grahams, but then when you put ‘em together over a nice fire it is a amazing delicious unison of flavors.
*Overwatch:* Even though we are hated, we save the world and try to maintain peace between humans and omnics. We also get rid of the meanie omnics who disturb the peace. *TF2:* Hey, we were hired by this really old guy, and we sometimes fight ourselves in different colored shirts or something. We also fight robot versions of ourselves, we don’t know why everyone we fight looks like us but we just go with it.
Chad Tf2: are class are all equal and we have very few problems with being overpowered and you can play any class I’m you want and win. vs vergan overwatch: if you don’t play 1 type of character the same you will lose the game no matter what you do also some of are charter are trash while some are super overpowered
Archives is great because it changes it up lore wise Blackwatch and Talon are basically evil and I adore that and Overwatch 2 will explore that. Characters in the game belomg to different groups and allegiamces which makes it awful that pvp is non canonical while tf2 has the genious to integrate all the nonsense of pvp limitations and gimicks into the story
It's hard to really look at Overwatch as heroes. I mean, they aren't villians (mostly), they saved humanity, but from what? Their main enemy, the omnic army, is made up entirely of sentient beings that were all told to commit suicide because their owners committed tax fraud. And the omnics fucking did it. They all turned themselves off, being told they were never going to wake up. Then unexplained mystery things happen and all the omnics get turned back on and suddenly want to fight instead of killing themselves. And, yeah. They probably should fight instead of just killing themselves.
I feel like each TF2 character benefits the team in an indirect way, they might not be straight up healing the team or supporting them like Medic or Engineer, but every character has a purpose for the team. Team's getting swamped by a bunch of Engineer buildings? Play spy to sneak behind them and sap them. Need to set some traps so the enemy doesn't push forward too much? Play Demoman to set up some sticky bombs. Too many spies sneaking up on your team whilst you're focused on a certain point? Use a pyro to flush them out. Need an easy flank or someone to push forward and pick off some enemies to weaken the enemy advance? Scout's just about as dexterous to avoid shots and get past. Need a long ranged defense to stop people flanking or pick off solo enemies? Sniper's a good job, mate. Need someone to draw fire or provide heavy damage to form a strong central offense? I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet
I agree. I remember one time I was playing medic and I had half health and an enemy soldier was right in front of me. But a spy backstabbed him before he could shoot a rocket.
I remember there was a brief time where there was an idea that you can switch OW heroes to counter different comps, except it turns out some heroes are just better and everyone played those.
Also, outside of maybe Medic and Engineer, everyone's primary job is still to do direct damage. Their stock toolset determines how you do that damage. Scout has a hitscan shotgun, so he wants to keep close asd move fast. Soldier has slow projectiles with big splash, so hit clusters, aim for feet for easier hits. You don't Need support to do good damage, but with 12 per team, someone's probably nearby throwing damage in a direction. Plus, you have alternate weapons to change it up a bit. OW's heroes ... they're too specialized, too fragile unless their job is to be a damage sponge.
In Overwatch, the manager doesn’t like anyone working there and only cares about the money he makes from condiments. In TF2, the customers have to beg for the manager to come back to deal with the Karens that keep hogging the kitchen
Overwatch: Heres some vegetables and juice, go have fun in the park! Be safe kids! TF2: ***Heres some cocaine and rabid hamters, I'll be back in an hour, go bite the jugulars of anyone who makes fun of you.***
so overwatch is having to follow a set of lego instructions TF2 is just "here's a bunch of legos. do whatever you want" Or Overwatch is having a good nanoboost TF2 is having a customizable sandvich
Here is me comparing all tf2 classes to treats, in accordence with the gameplay and this videos metaphore, because I play too much tf2. Scout is like a lollipop, tastes great but is best enjoyed seperatly, as putting them in the frey with the rest will just result in you chewing it to pieces get to the other candy, or removing it and putting it somewhere else because of his low hp and high evasion. Best on flanks, and in 1v1's. Solider is the classic candy bar, allways delichious, never mixes poorly with other candy, and capable of being a well rounded snack all on it's own. Everyone likes the solider, and picking him is never a bad idea, the ideal iconic tf2 experience (and incidentally my least played class, so no bias its just a great class). Pyro is like jeallybeans because it's very easy to like, and is nice alongside almost any collection of candy, but it mostly comes down to just being flavored sugar, and you at some point realize that even though the skill cealing is relatively high in theory, in practise mastery gives diminishing returns, making it easy to feel like developing skill doesn't do much, but tf2 is casual, and skill makes it more fun so definetly still worth it. Demoman is non-stop; a tasty and sweet treat, but only eating non-stop can feel a bit limited. Works great when mixed with other candy, and allways wellcome, unless there is too much spam. Heavy is like a bowl of ice cream, works excellently on his own but definetly benefits greatly from allies, being so slow to eat and vulnerable to flanking classes. Heavy benefits greatly from topping, and can provide a lot of damage and tanking to a team, but only if people play along with him. Engineer is more like a bowl of salted roasted nuts, that goes with anything, elevating their flavor notably, but is a neat snack on it's own just kinda limited, though this is made up for by the variety of nuts out there, and how just a little honney or sirup can make it a nutty bar, and suddenly you have a more worthy lone snack (battle engie). Medic is like a soft drink that helps the thirst so you can eat more candy, it definetly elevates the experience, and can be considdered essential, but you haven't really had candy with just medic. While a snack is allways nice, many would argue it's not snacktime without a tasty drink to go with it. Spy is like liqerish, due to it's unique flavor. It can be sweet or salty, depending on whether you have aquired the taste for it, but in the end it remains a candy that many find anoying in a bag of mixed candy, especially if there are a lot of them. Sniper is like boubblegum, you hardly ever mix it with anything else, and (unless you use the huntsman) probably messed up if you find yourself on the frontline. Some people find the chewing itritating, and don't like finding gum everywhere.
I feel like it would have been a lot better if he had gotten an actual TF2ber (TF2 RUclipsr) to debate on TF2's behalf rather than getting his editor (yeah, that other guy was his video editor... Emphasis on "was") to do 5 minutes of research before trying to make a valid argument. FUNKe, LazyPurple, Uncle Dane, Mr Paladin, Skymin Slash, heck Muselk could do both sides! There's actually a really large TF2 community on RUclips and plenty would have gladly done a collaboration Deadlock with MatPat... But because his 2 single TF2 videos were very poorly researched and he's traded video quality for clickbait over the years, pretty much nobody in the TF2 community has any respect left for him anymore.
@@cadunkus To be honest I never really liked most of his videos, especially newer ones. It feels like I'm listening to the weird, nerdy, edgy kids at school. And I don't mean the ones who talk about videogames and play Magic The Gathering at lunch time, I mean the ones who do the Naruto run, hiss at you, and go off on really weird rants. Most of his stuff feels like it's trying REALLY hard to be deep and meaningful but always falls short. A lot of recent content feels rushed and like he's just trying to be edgy. This is especially the case after he got RUclips famous. He clearly never really wanted to do all those fnaf videos but he had to milk them for all they're worth for some revenue.
IcespherePlaysGames He has always erred on the side of cringy, but at least he did make interesting "food for thought" whenever he wasn't saying Mario is the antichrist. Now, though, he hardly ever makes anything worth watching unironically.
If you had a tf2 cake and you put a new ingredient in, the whole cake needs to be changed. That’s what you call 11 years of code. Goddamn. Must be hard
S-pie-s and Pie-ro’s: exist Sni-pie-er: Here’s a durian Also I’d like to point this out Medic and Engineer, being the two exceptions to the candy bar comparison, should be ice cream. If you add any chocolate candy to vanilla ice cream it’ll taste waaay better.
I play TF2, but a cousin have Oveewtch and i play with him sometimes, and i think tf2 make me a better team mate, because i was playing Soldier 76 and when anyone need heal, i went and throw the heal things that Soldier 76 throws. If you are asking how TF2 have relationship with that, just one word. SANDVICH
@@smeggiamagarwine it a game unlockable eating it heals you up to full health but can be thrown to become a pickup that heals 50 percent of any players health(teammate or enemy)
Overwatch voice lines: I fight for honor; let's do this; ect. Tf2 voice lines: IF I WEREN'T THE MAN I WAS I'D KISS YE; You died as you lived, morbidly obese; *SCREAMING EAGLES*; Ect. Edit: I am not going to fix the spelling just to spite you
7:20 and then some rotten banana said "Hey Guys I took every way that is free of customizing your character and I packed it here" and that's how free item servers were born
hey dudes - I want to quickly clarify some points, since it seems I didn't give them a proper explanation in the vid:
1) There are *definitely* items in TF2 that benefit teammates, such as Soldier banners, mad milk, sandvich, etc. These are great items but they are supplementary to each class "core" role - for example, a Soldier's "core" moveset is centered around high amounts of rocket damage. He has the ability to provide *minor* team buffs with buff banner (as a tradeoff for less shotgun damage) but his core kit is built to deal damage, not to buff teammates.
By comparison, MANY Overwatch characters have a "core" moveset that is entirely based around benefiting teammates. Reinhardt's single most important move is his shield, and it DRAMATICALLY increases the power level and effectiveness of a team. TF2 Soldier can buff his team, but never in the core way that Reinhardt's character is designed to do, or Orisa with her shield, or Lucio with heal aura, or Dva with defense matrix, etc.
The way I phrased this in the video sounded like TF2 characters have ZERO team buff abilities, which is obviously incorrect - that's a dumb oversight by me. The intended point was to compare Overwatch characters being fundamentally designed around team buffs, versus TF2 characters being fundamentally designed around damage output, but I should have worded this better.
2) I am aware competitive TF2 exists! I competed in a season of UGC Highlander, played a bunch of TF2 lobbies, watched tournaments, etc. TF2 is my most played videogame (1600 hours), so I've experienced every aspect of it. But in this video I was deliberately narrowing the focus to "Casual TF2" versus "Casual Overwatch", as I believe this is how 90% of players experience both games, and it's the part that I am personally drawn to. As I laid out in the video, I feel that the casual playstyle of these two games offer vastly different fundamental experiences.
That being said, I think I failed to give competitive TF2 proper credit here, and even implied that competitive TF2 *cant* exist, which is absolutely not true. I love comp tf2, I will continue to play comp tf2, and absolutely didn't mean to shun the scene.
With both points, I think I tried to oversimplify things and ended up leaving out major game elements in the process. I really do appreciate the feedback on these though - I'm brand new to the "video essay" format so I'm still making mistakes, but trying to improve at it as fast as I can and will keep trying to improve for future videos
thanks again. Luv ya'll
I give very big thank for this clarify, hav a gud day.
Overwatch big gay
Uh, lol. StaryKrow (a spy main) has like 15k hours on his spy.
First video I've watched of yours and I loved it from head to to...mato. Subscribed. I never played OW and I've been giving unnecessary hate towards it because I'm a hardcore tf2 fan who has 1800 hours. This helped bring some light to it so I can't hate it as much.
Are you one of those people who hate Hanzo?
TF2 Community: Yo Valve can we have a TF2 Heavy update?
Valve: Heres a Durian
Valve: here's a Jojo reference
Valve: PAINIS DURIAN
@Do bbo )))
Durian = updated localitation files
Valve: Here's the pyro update, DEAL WITH IT
Overwatch: "You fight with honor"
TF2: *SCOTLAND IS NOT A REAL COUNTRY, YOU ARE AN ENGLISHMAN IN A DRESS*
“Stars and stripes beats hammer and sickles. Look it up.”
@Lake Bond pls dont
@Lake Bond ok
I'm Scottish, wait so I was born in England, oh god, my life is a lie
My imagination: Both is good (My concept uses the good parts of both games)
Overwatch Voicelines: Heroes never die!
TF2 Voicelines: Stars and stripes beat hammer and sickle. Look it up
Omg i get It it's like the third someone uses the same line to do this joke.
Scout:” FAT BALD FATTY FAT.. FAT!!. FAT.. FAT!!!!!!
Just don't tell soldier that his uniform is red
Indeed, you drunken wreatch
@@SleepyPj Just don’t tell him that the American flag has red
Overwatch: Please work together and be nice
TF2: Here's an achievement for making someone ragequit
Yes
Cerelabxo
Eceralxob
Berellobx
Dyslexia
update on the current state of the restaurants:
overwatch has shut down its first location to make a second one across the street while still serving the same foods.
tf2's restaurant manager has said "hey I'm gonna go home for a bit ill leave the door and the lights on, jerry the janitor will make sure no-one breaks anything, have fun" and the restaurant hasnt 're-opened' but jerry has kept things interesting and the community is still having fun.
give some credit to the potted plant too
@@TheRedPheonix-fc7qo don't get your hopes high just yet
maybe it's just some new maps with the summer crates update and no actual balance changes, we'll see
I mean, just some new dishes with no actual changes to the flavors of the restaurant
@@TheRedPheonix-fc7qo as I was saying 😭
that is the most accurate overwatch to overwatch"2" transition ever
You forgot the robbers that randomly storm into the restaurant spit in your food once and then get thrown out by the other customers
OW voicelines: "Heroes never die!"
TF2: "Here lies Scout. He ran fast and died a virgin"
Overwatch: mainly focuses on teamwork
Tf2: *did you just make him rage quit? Nice! Here is an achievement*
Tf2 sfm littery Made some of the best animation
@@nukeariesdiana2476 and gave birth to some awesome memes
@@Heggchandwich Reminds me of the “C’mon I dare ya ragequit, make us both happy” Scout voiceline
Which class says that?
So basically, Overwatch is a four star restaurant and TF2 is that one legendary taco truck.
This is accurate
Surprised there's no toxic replies saying how either is better so far
@@furjaden8553 Because, 4 stars is still really good. And a good taco might as well be from a restaurant.
I see I see 🤔
And Not Damn Expensive
Overwacth: ok guys we have to work together as a team
Tf2: I'm gonna use a fish to kill people
lol
One of my favorite things about tf2 is that when you do dumb shit there’s a heavy chance that someone will join you whether they’re on the enemy team or not
Boink! Bonk!
*I am deh spy*
it is good day to be not dead!
*that one scout with a fish running to my location rapidly*
You get banned in Overwatch for being Toxic in chat
In TF2 there is a literally achievement for throwing *piss* at a enemy
There are 6 PISS ACHIEVEMENTS
Trick stab trick stab
There is an achievement for burn other players as a pyro while they taunting
Oh my god I NEED TO MAKE A STEAM ACCOUNT
"Filthy jar man"
Overwatch: We're a team!
Spy with Kunai and Dead ringer: I am the team.
Don't forget the ambassador
or, something even worse, 2k hrs sniper.
doesn't even need distractions to be effective
Your comment has little likes because everyone else is a overwatch fan
The random full stock pyro: I am the team
I AM THE DEFENSE.
Overwatch voice lines: “I will fight for honor” etc.
Tf2 voice lines: “WAVE GOODBYE TO YA HEAD, YA WANKER!”
Stars and stripes beats hammer and sickle, look it up!
YOU ARE SUCH A BAD DOCTOR
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA **snort**
*WAAAAAAAAH! WAAAAAAAAAAAH! HAHAHAHAHAHA! CRY SOME MOOOOOORE!*
here lies the scout,he run fast and died as a virgin
Everyone, the most offensive quote pyro can say in a domination line is:
“*mmph mph yhu Mmphing cmfword!*”
Turns out this video was even more accurate than we realised at the time:
Fruit and Veg rots way quicker than chocolate...
Nice one
(lists the negatives of having an all chocolate diet)
@@doomclasher9287heres one: brainrot
@@wasdkug_trthats a positive
Looking at the average 2fort server, yeah.@@wasdkug_tr
"Engineer is an obvious exception, as he is designed to help the team as a whole."
Battle Engies: Haha, Gunslinger go VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
and then the battle medic exists
gunslinger engi still can play very aggressive and build teleports and protect his team by building minis to deny enemies jumping his medic or something
Gunslinger actually puts an emphasis on support by taking focus away from your sentry.
Hey, we battle engineers can actually support the team even more! Especially when you aren't playing payload or attack/defend.
On the other maps battle engi is even more useful. Literally any map where you can both attack and defend is perfect for battle engi(KOTH and CTF,even CP with 2 teams trying to capture points and not only 1,even double PL).
I love engineer because i can support my team, but still go out with a shotgun and get the job done myself.
Overwatch: "Hero's never die"
TF2: "and when the patient woke up, his skeleton was missing, and the Doctor was never heard from again! Anyway... That's how I lost my medical license."
Tf2: Hey we’re going to find other Version selves OK with different Colors shirts
*sudden Hoovy realization*-
"Archimedes, no! It's filthy in there. Ugh."
He said while perfoming a sugery
@@emerald_claws *B I R D S .*
In OW, every person I’ve ever played with took the game incredibly seriously.
In TF2, I once played with a guy who just sat in spawn and read Fahrenheit 451 into the voice chat the entire game.
Safe to say, I prefer TF2
Did he read it well?
I met someone in tf2 whos name was the man and every 5 seconds he typed man into chat
@@LordCrate-du8zmhe was probably dyslexic ngl
@@Cole-rh8xlman, what a man
I joined one of the custom servers yesterday and there was this guy on the other team that whos name is Freddy Fazbear was playing the fnaf beatbox on the mic
Overwatch: “We have to work together!”
TF2: “hey guys lets push this afk person out of base”
"hey wouldn't it be a bit silly goofy goober if we all switched to engineer and built a mega-sentry nest in the intel room?"
@@pedrocto9474average 2fort game:
What's the song in the background?
Overwatch: You fought with honor.
TF2: *literally has an emote that allows you to kill somebody with a fart*
Pyros jetpack right?
@@Berkaykn yes
Valve: Whe have something better *shows heavy fingergun and rock, paper scissors tauts*
*TELEFRAG POWA*
E M O T E
Missed opportunity to call Pyro “Papayro” is in Pyro and Papaya.
@EE
Papyrus Pyro
@imnotachickennugget H
@E E
Valve counting to 3:
One
Two
*Here’s a durian*
One.
Two.
Here is a durian.
H€/re i$ @ d%&*%ERROR%
Valve:1 2.....Uhhhhh...10?
BRUH AS I READ THIS COMMENT I WAS ACTUALLY IN THE PART WHERE HE SAID THAT AND LITERALLY JUST NARRATED IT
Valve: One Two... Oh what you Look in the Time another Portal DLC has Started Wanna Pla-
Me: HALF 3 AND NO DURIANS
@@giiingging1713 1, 2... 2 episode 1.............. 2 episode 2.................................. what?
Overwatch: That restaurant round the corner that’s failing because they’re trying to expand business very badly
TF2: That one food truck which has been going around the town for decades without changing but is still extremely popular
This is so true
Why change a masterpiece?
and the food truck is filled with rats and the owners ignoring it, the food may taste the same but sometimes the customers food is accidentaly serve with rats, most of the customers leave but the loyal one persuade them to keep eating the food cause its good, but sooner or later the food truck will be shut down, because the owners kept ignoring the big problem or ironically small problems the rats.
(this is on the bot situation on tf2 right now)
@@highNOTER I played TF2 and yes, I understood it right away.
@@highNOTER did they hire exterminators to get rid of the rats recently
Going off meta in Overwatch: **punished by teammates**
Going off meta in Tf2: **comedy achieved**
Yes.
A friend of mine told me that he killed with the sun on a stick. *The whold server praised him*
@Mister Unknown yeah everyone was like "Yo wtf"
Memes
@@Esto_Quod_Es_iii Yes just yes
Overwatch:NoOoO hOw dArE yOu NoT cHoOsE ThE mEtA
Tf2: 2 scout with a fish and a frying pan top scored
That's reminds me:
"DON'T WORRY
WE ARE
THE ENGENEERS"
@@thecrimsonviscount5689 YES
My team had like 6 snipers and we fucking won the payload map. No joke
역병으사 WAIT ON UPWARD??
Demopans are terrifying
I like the fact that durian isn't even a character.
It's just a *durian*
durian gaming
Durian is guuuuuuud
Sigma durian?
@@mystic5658 Sigmurian
Hanzo in disguise
Overwatch: If one person goes off track the entire team loses
Tf2: PRESS KILL-BIND FOR FUNNI
Actually, Killbinding is a tactical move. After one of your teammates intentionally misses all their shots in comedic fashion, they stand still and killbind, causing everyone within direct line of sight to succumb to "the funny", leaving the spy that's been cloaked in the corner for the last 20 minutes to capture the objective.
@@cross512 bro....
What's the song in the background?
Missed oppurtunity to call Reaper a “Carolina Reaper”
yus
Sick fucker didn't heart the comment
@@chopperbrosadvance9760 the video was posted 9 months ago why should he still check the comments of this vid
@@karlg5697 ur right
@@karlg5697 Because that's what heroes do.
Overwatch: Teamwork is the only way to win
Tf2: Here's a bottle of piss
Valve: oh, you like piss? Here’s a piss rifle.
Oh? You like cows? Heres a jar of mad milk.
Oh you like “milk”?
Here’s a bucket
oh you like crits? heres a juice of crit-a-cola
Oh you like maggots? Here's soldier
Overwatch: we gotta work together, stick to the plan!
TF2: Guys, let's all play scout but only use the pan.
Fish
Heavy mains: Hey guys lets all be fat scouts
Engineer mains: lets build 10 sentries here and dance unitl qhe end of the game
Bad comment demo use pan.
Soldier Mains: Hey let's all go Trolldier
Fun fact: I used a Doug Doug style food analogy to explain the differences between the ways tf2 and overwatch have their characters and it was like this
Playing a TF2 character is like buying a pizza, extremely customizable, you can play soldier normally with pepperoni’s and cheese and stuff OR you change into rocket jumper and parachute and eat Hawaiian
Playing an Overwatch character however is like ordering a pre prepared meal from a restaurant, like sure you could totally eat that steak with your bare hands but you’re *supposed* to eat it with a knife and fork and as such Overwatch characters very much have a specific way of playing them that you’re *supposed* to do
Yoook 10 class got added in the summer , saxton Halle is officially in
Arguably better than the video itself
For TF2, you can literally order a pizza with anchovies, corn, and cucumbers and those building the pizza aren’t going to question it.
Ok so if you design you're characters like a pizza you will have a lot of replayability
What's the song in the background?
Overwatch: Teamwork makes the dream work
TF2: “Where is my team?”
His team: *Dancing in a room surrounding an AFK player*
engie nest in a nutshell
*KAZOTSKY KICK INTENSIFIES*
*CONGA INTENSIFIES*
@@user-ow2cs7fb5l they're all laughing at a spycrab, a katotsky kick and a mannrobotics while one scout is tryinh to do the conga.
*life of engie main in nutshell*
Overwatch: Teamwork makes the dream work.
TF2: One Demoman is enough to destroy you all.
Dr lalve reference right?
@@ViperEye1Official
Aye!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM
I swear, a good medic demo combo outright dominated my team
Lel 2 pyros with airblast and the demo wont do shit
Interesting fact: TF2 has a "Custom weapons" servers. That means that community also creates the ingredients, not only food
Did you think he did research?
@@viccyyboii3308 He did , he even said that he plays bots games and especially tf2 (both casually and competitively) and that he just oversimplified things for the sake of the video.Also you should remember that this isnt a true vs video since he does praise and critique both games quite leniently.
the CHARACTERS are ingredients, custom characters are like compromised ingredients and custom weapons are different spices.
They even made a community server that the weapons act like something from Overwatch weapons can do.
Also custom classes ma dude
Quick update:
Overwatch is like a restaurant but they use burnt oil and deliver everything late, also, the server ate 3/4 of the meal and is screaming at you because you didint gave him a 30$ tip for a shitty 4$ meal.
You also have to pay extra for a plate and utensils.
Female employees get s**ually harrased.
And they still give you durians
What's the song in the background?
And then team fortress2 gives you the best steak of your life for completely free with a one cent tip
OVERWATCH: banned for saying ggwp
Tf2: _achievement for making someone ragequit_ (BarbeQueQ)
I think there’s an achievement for when you backstab someone and they switch to a Pyro
Pau Suan Khai Wait what is this real?
Were you really banned for saying ggwp?
@@HellishPumpkin yes is real, is pyro achivement, make someone who you dominated leave the sever
You cant get banned for being toxic,or writing gg wp in the chat.
Overwatch: "Heros never die!"
Tf2: " Piss in a jar. Take it or leave it."
or mad milk
which whether its milk or, well the other white vicious liquid, either way i don't wanna know how scout got it.
"Cheers love! The calvary's here!"
"WANKER!"
Here's a durian
@@NecoArcFan i dont really like durian (btw im indonesia lol)
@@sovietunion7643 Well it says it comes from radioactive cows
I can only assume Scout managed to fit said Cow in his pocket
So basically Overwatch is a military squad and TF2 is like a bunch of hired mercenaries.
.... waiiiiiit...
Professional mercenaries
@@ME-wy5uv VERY professional
@@ME-wy5uv But they're laughing stocks in the Mercenary Industry. Even TFC Crew knows this
@@ME-wy5uv they’re professionals with standards
How poorly this video has aged, and it's an unfortunate case of Blizzard's negligence.
Rest in Peace Overwatch 1, we will miss you.
And... LONG LIVE TF2!
Overwatch definitely isn’t dead. I’d say they merely revised their orderly cooking strategy.
@@sninctbur3726 Yeah by overcharging people for the exact same dishes under the pretense of it being "new" when it actuality it's a minimalized shadow of what it once was.
@@thegreatgonzales6813 it's free to play now and the only things that are bought by money are skins and cosmetics. I don't play tf2 but how do u get the different load outs like wepons and such
@@thegreatgonzales6813 ??? The game is literally free now lol. They update it constantly and I’d say the game is in a MUCH better spot rn than before. Only thing that costs money is cosmetic. Doesn’t tf2 sell cosmetics too? Why is it such a big deal when ow does it lol
@@pon39490 Nothing wrong with cosmetics to an extent, but that isn't all Overwatch 2 did that pissed me and many other people off. It's that the game is practically identical to Overwatch 1 but worse in multiple ways.
Now, things that were previously available are now locked behind a paywall and obtaining them through gameplay is clearly disincentivized seeing as players earn only 60 coins per week. Additionally, the prices for some of those cosmetics and their bundles are/were insane for only being a cosmetic.
5v5 was not what this game was built for, especially in regards to the characters. They were designed with 6v6 in mind and making the tank the primary player doesn't work as well as it could've if Blizzard reworked the heroes to be tailored to it.
Every issue from the first game is still here. The game expects an unbelievable and unreasonable amount of cohesive communication between players in order to excel, even more than before now since matches are 5v5. The roll queue still exists for some fucking reason.
TF2 has some insane prices for cosmetics. but those are in a league of their own and are more akin to trading cards than actual skins. Tf2 also has several weapons that can completely change how you play a class and have a direct effect on gameplay.
The main difference between TF2's monetization and OW2's is that TF2 doesn't push it on to the player. It's completely fine to play both games without spending a cent on cosmetics but Overwatch 2 constantly shoves them in the player's face.
Also, do not give me the "but it's free" argument. Remember Halo Infinite? Remember Diablo Immortal?
So basically TF2 is Chaotic Neutral and Overwatch is Lawful Neutral
That's why OW is boring
역병으사 k
spot on
No tf2 chaotic good overwatch is lawful evil
Yep, overwatch takes its game seriously, which is good, and then theres tf2 that just kind of... exists, which is nice, it's nice that its there
OW: Winning With A Perfect Team **SATISFIED**
TF2: Making A Conga Line With Enemy Team **SATISFIED**
TF2 gud
@@Creepars TF2 DA BEST
@@luis2008mercado tf2 my childhood..
But my pc broke :(
@@the-db9bn its was everyone's child hood 😢
PFOOHOHOHOHOHO! KEEP DANCIN', BABIES!
Medic is Hershey’s
And engineer is milk
They work well by themselves, but go better with their team
Damn that's a good desc of it
Medic doesn't go well on himself
@@dukenukemfromdukenukem1180 you never played medic?
@@valeriofalchetti3456 ive played medic a lot, if you just go completely on your own that means you have a 1 way ticket to bone city
Your former president George Washington BATTLE MEDIC
And now overwatch's kitchen is burning...
And TF2 won't add any new menu items...
this really is the worst timeline
In the worst timeline, neither one would exist to begin with.
What's the song in the background?
Hold up tf2 just added a new variation to the gas passer side dish
It’s called Neon flavoured gas
Maybe they’ll change some of the recipes of the dishes to make them taste better at least?
Blizzard: nOoO yOu cAn'T mAKe pOrN Of oUr cHaRaCtErS
Valve: heheh scout's mom go bonjour
IM OFF TO VISIT YOUR MOTHER
This is why I main Spy and Scout
Fortressegy ayy fellow spy main
spycrab |Ham Mafia| yes
@@cool-mb7fy bruh same
"Well, then it just tastes like a big, chocolate-y mess"
But it's a good big, chocolate-y mess
But you need a gallon of water afterwards...
*here is a durian*
Me: Valve please add more anti-cheat software
Valve: heres wutville
Wutville is a giant durian
@@applelover2294 what?
@@applelover2294 r/ihadastrok
@@scottishemu159 r/Iishaveredti
*This comment did not age well*
I wonder how is that Overwatch cake doing right now...
it's canceled!
@@StudioUAC They had the cake in the oven for 3 years... *And they forgot to turn it on.*
mold... mold fire and at least 13 collective garbage trucks on a plate
the restaurant is getting more and more unpopular because pve was cancelled off the menu
@@lambdrey they tried fixing it by adding more fruits. But no one wants more fruity characters. They hate figs.
I've never thought I'd hear
"Spiener"
"Demonana"
"Soldierflower"
"Briguette"
"Widowmango"
Snipier*
Durian
Durian
Durian
Here’s a durian
Overwatch: guys get on the objective
TF2: if you cap, you have a small pp
yeehaw that’s basically Hightower
I man that just depends on the players and if your on casual or competitive
TF2: Lets cap our way to the objective while holding a dance emote the whole way!
Toaster Bagels excuse me are you playing engineer on HIGHTOWER
@@jefflee4527 hightower in a nutshell
Overwatch lines: Heroes never die
Tf2: I have done nothing but teleport bread for 3 days
"I healed ze man who vill kill you"
A throw a grenade that debuffs people. That’s overwatch
Here’s a jar of piss that makes you take more damage. That’s tf2
R.I.P rick may
"off to visit your mother" -spy to the scout
"Gentlemen, synchronize your death watches."
I'm a bit _late_ but i think Tf2 would be more comparable to a burger.
every piece alone tastes great, and you don't need to change it, like a mea-vy (meat+heavy) is amazing alone. and some pieces tastes not as great alone, like med-bread, or cond-ineer (condiment + engineer). But can still be eaten differently, like battle med-ettes (baguettes).
However, all together taste better, (in casual, sure mea-vy can taste fine alone, but with a med-bread, it makes it greater.)
And you don't need everthing, you can have a mea-vy, a med-bread, maybe a cond-ineer if your on defense, but you don't need a pick-out (pickle+scout).
It even goes farther like, having too much spy-matoes, can begin to taste bad, and for a stable team, you should probably have 2 med-breads.
More like a sandvich
What's the song in the background?
Overwatch: Bans You for being toxic
Tf2: achievement for making someone ragequit as pyro
what's that one called?
@@meyes5671 BarbeQueQ
Also a voice line saying “yeah ragequit I dare ya”
Considering how much hate pyro gets, choosing pyro to be the only class you can get that achivment is made it much easier
Its funnaf
Hey Valve, how about a solution to the bot problem?
Valve: ... here’s a durian
Underrated lmao
As of now I think they have fixed the bots which is epic
@@CCG175 nope
@@Bamburfix oh what I thought valve said they fixed the bots,I guess I was wrong
@@CCG175 they said that but they didnt lol
Overwatch: “Fight for honor.”
TF2: “This... is a bucket.”
“Dear God...”
“There’s more.”
“No!”
TF2 is dumb fun wile overwatch makes me sad
Yeah you can just get lost playing levels in TF2 and yet I can’t spend even an hour in Overwatch
Overwatch: heroes never die!
Team fortress 2 : centelmen senronaize your death watches
@@kameranin_arkasindaki_adam centelmen?
@@yusefziayi3404" I' m going to visit your mother"
Overwatch: mixed together they can beat anything
Tf2: RANDOM BULLSHIT GO!
I fk love this comment 😂
Ah yes, my favorite candy bar: Hershey’s Chocolate Syrup
I mean...
Here's a durian
You mean Hershey’s Weapons guy
My fav is bananakingnt
Have you tried there strawberry flavor yet
@@madhatter294 it's really runny, like when you pour the strawberry syrup it just goes out way too fast
But there's only one thing Overwatch can't achieve,
*_Comedy._*
I mean,
Here's a durian
true
Comedy gold
I mean OW has a hamster riding a wrecking ball
cfpaige Tf2 has a town full of lead poisoned townsolf
Yeah, but now in TF2 it's like having a delicious Snickers, but a bot put a razor blade in it.
the only problem is the bots
@@FK-13 And they are no longer a problem!
@@insertjokehere212 thanks for telling me
So accurate, but unexpectedly Valve removes most of the razor blade s
@@insertjokehere212 no theres still bots. I just had a game with bots but the good side is that the match didn't have any actual players (but me sadly) plus if a bot joins an actual game the bot immediately gets kicked
Then there's overwatch 2, which is perfectly designed to _look_ tastier than the first cake, but then you take a bite and the frosting is just waxy (in a bad way), the cake itself is dense and tasteless, and then you go to leave and it turns out the single slice they gave you cost as much as the whole first cake, plus extra for the little chocolate flowers they added to make the plate look nice.
What's the song in the background?
Overwatch: We are a team!
A gibus spining sniper:I am the team.
Darth jose.gonzalez.2005
I am the defense
H B basically Firstname.Lastname(Random Number(mostly birthdate))
"I'm gonna camp."
resistance is futile. You will be assimilated
can you quack has joined the game
Ow: you will be more effective and each person progress affect more
TF2: *Scout flank 1v10 the enemy and everyone dies cause of 2 spies*
1 good flanking Scout is really annoying. And Spies... ALWAYS SPY CHECK YA MATES
@@thomasallen9974 Letranger spies: YA CANT KILL WHAT AINT THERE
@@hmmm4989 Big earner spies: you can’t kill what you can’t track
@@localdestiny2addict406 kunai spy’s: can’t kill what you can’t kill
@@Idkman959 Cloak and dagger spies:
Overwatch: has fans making porn
TF2: literally makes it themselves
Meet the spy flashbacks
Being flashbacks about the tf2 camic
I don't get it and i hope it doesn't mean what i think it means
@@TheDamdi soldier got naked and covered himself in honey and engaged heavy sister and they both were naked and covered in honey
@@theenderdestruction2362 oh how can I download tf2..? For research of course
"what if i want to make my own meal?"
OW: dude you're at a fucking restaurant go home
Tf2: just walk into my kitchen
OW: Here's a durian
Aim bots are like candy bars as well but they snuck razor blades inside your snickers
Both are a surprise for people (i regret making this joke)
Or there like the peanut in the chocolate
They can also be described as biting into what you think is a chocolate chip cookie, but it's actually just an oatmeal raisin cookie. Pure disappointment stuffed into a baked treat.
Actually they snuck panzerkampfwagon tiger ausf b's inside
noooOOOOOOOOOO
Overwatch Team: WHAT KIND OF DEFENCE IS THIS
that one demoknight: I AM THE DEFENCE
Is that a lazypurple reference ;)
Is that a REFRANCE I HEAR??!?!!?!!!!???!?!!
WHO IS dEFENDING THIS!?
Demoknight tf2
ayy love the reference
Hmm, why did the demo-banana have 2 eyes? It betrays his character.
This ruined the video for me smh my head
Ikr I already disliked and reported him.
@@theodorelvinchi4645 please tell me you're joking.
if you're not and reporting him for like the dumbest reason every, why?
This must have been during the times Medic would grow his eyes back...
@@justjoking5252 Nah, this is actually just the Medic's pet project of turning all the TF2 people into fruit.
Valve doesn't sexually asault their employees.
Excuse me
W H A T ?
@@isaiaholaru5013 Do you know about blizzard?
Because tf2 has no employess
@@GoobGoblinGoob Great point, but no sexual assault on no employees vs sexual assault on existing employees, tell me which sounds better
@@isaiaholaru5013Activision Blizzard have been on the news at times, since their working conditions within their company have been leaked. This resulted in many key employees in the company to flee, among them is the key leader of Overwatch.
I just realized that Overwatch and TF2’s logo are crosshairs
I always thought Overwatch was more of a peace symbol
@@potatos9842 Same
Oh mu
*hits blunt*
*BELT HITS YOU WITH BLUNT*
The medic is definitely salt. Salt will give robust flavors to the chocolate and improve the overall clusterfuck of candy. You don’t obviously need the salt, but it’s so good you probably should add it. The engineer is like strawberry. They work sometimes with chocolate.
Oooo that's a great analogy - well done :D
It's from a "personal" stand point think if medic was improving the chocolate in some way but you need don't to put them together too much
I think medic is like sugar you need it and if you don't add it...
The cake will have salt instead
As a medic main as a friend, that salt is actually accurate.
But what about battle medics?
What if you
Wanted to go to heaven
But god said :
*_Here's a durian_*
Here's a durian.
Oculosus _RBLX
Sadly heavens fake
@@subsandwichwithmayo469 good for it
NY Gaming
Sweet 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
@@subsandwichwithmayo469 ok cool nobody asked you for your religious beliefs
Good ol’ classic. The first Doug Doug video I ever watched and now I’m a massive fan, godbless this bell pepper
Remember when we thought Overwatch is going to kill tf2? Damn what a fool I was to fall for that, only tf2 can kill tf2.
Lol not even valve can kill tf2, the only thing that ever will is the release of tf3.
@@patricksedler9697 and bots
@@cm6417 people kick bots in 0.3 seconds i don't see that a problem
@@Rideze i mean its still irritating
unfortunately tf2 is killing tf2 right now
Was this video an excuse for you to say Demobananaknight?
basically :P half of writing this video was me just coming up with fruit puns and giggling to myself
@@DougDoug I got a real kick out of "Widowmango", so I think you hit the mark on that one.
honestly that sounds like a yugioh card or something.
@@kuroisora470 rly do tho
@@josephrasche7194 I see you there. Noice.
apolgy for bad engilsh
where were u wen customization dont?
i was at house eating widowmango when phone ring
"here durian"
"no"
the bad english makes it x10 better
@@Z3R0Steam I guess you haven't seen this meme yet?
I have, it’s the club penguin is kil meme
Underrated lol
I love this comment so much
Me: "Hey dougdoug can you make more content like this video!"
DougDoug: "Heres a durian"
One of my favorite things about TF2 is they achieved game balance by making EVERY class overpowered. Any single TF2 class would be insane in almost any other game (especially at the time of its initial release). Heavy's main weapon is a minigun for God's sake, and spy can literally turn invisible and one-hit kill you, then pretend to be you and kill your team mates.
That would be INSANE to add to any multi-player game, especially a competitive FPS... but then when you also have a guy with a fucking flame thrower that can repel projectiles, and a guy that can instantly heal any team mate and turn them invincible for a short time, all the insane overpowered bullshit, weirdly, start to balance each other out, which I think is part of the reason TF2 characters feel so good.
If you're playing a TF2 class well, you feel like a god, or a badass video game end boss at the very least.. and when you die, it either feels like you didn't do good enough and you know it, or you can blame the other guy's overpowered nonsense.
When you die in overwatch, you feel like an idiot, and people let you know it, and when you succeed you do so knowing a large part of that success came from good teamwork, not you alone.
Yeah everything in tf2 is op so the solution is to delete tf2 or just nerf everything even hats and maps.
@@sud1881 except The Classic, that one just suck
@@givemeyoureggs456 what no you can one shot a heavy without scoping in nerf it.
Also, some maps and weapons in TF2 are specifically designed to let you dick around, like ttrlldier and it's satisfying every single time I get a market garden because I love rocket jumping.
@@Yaboi-if8bw nerf it 195 damage is to much even the base 65 damage is too much
Meanwhile in the TF2's kitchen
"Hey, can you give us more ingredients to work?"
"Ok, just 3 more years and i'll give you another ingredient"
that's what made community create wacky modes itself
More than 2 years less than 4
Ala o cornokkkkkkkkkk
To be fair, they also go, "Here's the phone number for the distributor we use, call em yourself."
They give you complete freedom to create anything you possibly can in the engine. Just look at Saxton Hale, does that not count as a new character?
Valve can't count to 3
This is the best explanation of the situation I've ever seen and, you aren't even a tf2/overwatch youtube channel.
Yep
Yes I know right!
Way better than Game Theory’s attempt
Widowmango XD
@@sporkst *clickbait
I feel like you could also describe tf2 using s’mores. They are all great on their own, you got the mallows and chocolate and grahams, but then when you put ‘em together over a nice fire it is a amazing delicious unison of flavors.
*Overwatch:*
Even though we are hated, we save the world and try to maintain peace between humans and omnics. We also get rid of the meanie omnics who disturb the peace.
*TF2:*
Hey, we were hired by this really old guy, and we sometimes fight ourselves in different colored shirts or something. We also fight robot versions of ourselves, we don’t know why everyone we fight looks like us but we just go with it.
Chad Tf2: are class are all equal and we have very few problems with being overpowered and you can play any class I’m you want and win.
vs
vergan overwatch: if you don’t play 1 type of character the same you will lose the game no matter what you do also some of are charter are trash while some are super overpowered
@@randomgreek5682 Yeah, Jeff doesn't know how to properly balance characters.
Archives is great because it changes it up lore wise
Blackwatch and Talon are basically evil and I adore that and Overwatch 2 will explore that. Characters in the game belomg to different groups and allegiamces which makes it awful that pvp is non canonical while tf2 has the genious to integrate all the nonsense of pvp limitations and gimicks into the story
It's hard to really look at Overwatch as heroes. I mean, they aren't villians (mostly), they saved humanity, but from what? Their main enemy, the omnic army, is made up entirely of sentient beings that were all told to commit suicide because their owners committed tax fraud. And the omnics fucking did it. They all turned themselves off, being told they were never going to wake up. Then unexplained mystery things happen and all the omnics get turned back on and suddenly want to fight instead of killing themselves. And, yeah. They probably should fight instead of just killing themselves.
Don't forget that these different-color-shirt men are fighting for literal gravel
I feel like each TF2 character benefits the team in an indirect way, they might not be straight up healing the team or supporting them like Medic or Engineer, but every character has a purpose for the team. Team's getting swamped by a bunch of Engineer buildings? Play spy to sneak behind them and sap them. Need to set some traps so the enemy doesn't push forward too much? Play Demoman to set up some sticky bombs. Too many spies sneaking up on your team whilst you're focused on a certain point? Use a pyro to flush them out. Need an easy flank or someone to push forward and pick off some enemies to weaken the enemy advance? Scout's just about as dexterous to avoid shots and get past. Need a long ranged defense to stop people flanking or pick off solo enemies? Sniper's a good job, mate. Need someone to draw fire or provide heavy damage to form a strong central offense? I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet
Okay but like, I am impressed with the smoothness to which character to talk about-
wow that's alotta words.
too bad im not reading em.
...sorry if i was rude
I agree. I remember one time I was playing medic and I had half health and an enemy soldier was right in front of me. But a spy backstabbed him before he could shoot a rocket.
I remember there was a brief time where there was an idea that you can switch OW heroes to counter different comps, except it turns out some heroes are just better and everyone played those.
Also, outside of maybe Medic and Engineer, everyone's primary job is still to do direct damage. Their stock toolset determines how you do that damage. Scout has a hitscan shotgun, so he wants to keep close asd move fast. Soldier has slow projectiles with big splash, so hit clusters, aim for feet for easier hits. You don't Need support to do good damage, but with 12 per team, someone's probably nearby throwing damage in a direction.
Plus, you have alternate weapons to change it up a bit. OW's heroes ... they're too specialized, too fragile unless their job is to be a damage sponge.
Overwatch: You will be hated for not playing the objective.
TF2: You will probably be hated for playing the objective 50% of the time.
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TF2: you'll be hated if you kill a snickers dance party
@fnaf man it's spreading.
excluding playload , king of hill and attack/defend
Tru
In Overwatch, the manager doesn’t like anyone working there and only cares about the money he makes from condiments.
In TF2, the customers have to beg for the manager to come back to deal with the Karens that keep hogging the kitchen
Overwatch: Heres some vegetables and juice, go have fun in the park! Be safe kids!
TF2: ***Heres some cocaine and rabid hamters, I'll be back in an hour, go bite the jugulars of anyone who makes fun of you.***
Yea pretty much
Beware: Rabid Hamters
Well yeah
OW is for pussies, TF2 is for chads
역병으사 as someone who had over a 1000 hours in both, your completely wrong, their both great
“I love to eat widowmango”
“I just wanna eat it in different ways”
Very, VERY poor choice of words!
FINALLY someone pointed that out
reeeboi, I liked my own comment just to have it like that!
Very, VERY right choice of words
oooh shit!
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Overwatch : *voice lines that are basically bad in-jokes or supportive speech*
TF2 : "You've got a forehead on you like a coffee table."
"They're gonna bury what's left of yer in a soup cannn"
"mmph"
"here lies scout, he ran fast and died a virgin"
Heavy is wish granting fairy.
Make wish.
Did you wish for Heavy to kill you?
Wish granted.
This game is just so fun
He died as long as he lived, morbidly obese.
so
overwatch is having to follow a set of lego instructions
TF2 is just "here's a bunch of legos. do whatever you want"
Or
Overwatch is having a good nanoboost
TF2 is having a customizable sandvich
now overwatch is "BELLA KEEP MAKING THOSE LEGO'S BABY"
TF2 is " "
Ow: you can get banned for typing "ez" in chat
Tf2: you can whip a black man to make him go faster
Slow down there funny guy
@@xanlao3272 wort wort wort
It took me some time to understand it
You are a comedy genious man
@@facemcshooty6602 this isnt actually my joke lol, i saw it on reddit :p
@Oshabot 16 basically, but thats the front page, i never go to the front page xD
Over watch: I couldn’t have won that without my team!
Tf2: ENTiRE TEAM IS BABIES
I WAS TOLD I WOULD BE FIGHTING MEN
TF2: _meds, heavies, demos and soldiers win on their own, while the rest of the team just wanders around doing whatever_
HOW COULD THIS HAPPENED?
my fav coment in this section by far
Pryo: *sees whole team and enemy team as babies*
Here is me comparing all tf2 classes to treats, in accordence with the gameplay and this videos metaphore, because I play too much tf2.
Scout is like a lollipop, tastes great but is best enjoyed seperatly, as putting them in the frey with the rest will just result in you chewing it to pieces get to the other candy, or removing it and putting it somewhere else because of his low hp and high evasion. Best on flanks, and in 1v1's.
Solider is the classic candy bar, allways delichious, never mixes poorly with other candy, and capable of being a well rounded snack all on it's own. Everyone likes the solider, and picking him is never a bad idea, the ideal iconic tf2 experience (and incidentally my least played class, so no bias its just a great class).
Pyro is like jeallybeans because it's very easy to like, and is nice alongside almost any collection of candy, but it mostly comes down to just being flavored sugar, and you at some point realize that even though the skill cealing is relatively high in theory, in practise mastery gives diminishing returns, making it easy to feel like developing skill doesn't do much, but tf2 is casual, and skill makes it more fun so definetly still worth it.
Demoman is non-stop; a tasty and sweet treat, but only eating non-stop can feel a bit limited. Works great when mixed with other candy, and allways wellcome, unless there is too much spam.
Heavy is like a bowl of ice cream, works excellently on his own but definetly benefits greatly from allies, being so slow to eat and vulnerable to flanking classes. Heavy benefits greatly from topping, and can provide a lot of damage and tanking to a team, but only if people play along with him.
Engineer is more like a bowl of salted roasted nuts, that goes with anything, elevating their flavor notably, but is a neat snack on it's own just kinda limited, though this is made up for by the variety of nuts out there, and how just a little honney or sirup can make it a nutty bar, and suddenly you have a more worthy lone snack (battle engie).
Medic is like a soft drink that helps the thirst so you can eat more candy, it definetly elevates the experience, and can be considdered essential, but you haven't really had candy with just medic. While a snack is allways nice, many would argue it's not snacktime without a tasty drink to go with it.
Spy is like liqerish, due to it's unique flavor. It can be sweet or salty, depending on whether you have aquired the taste for it, but in the end it remains a candy that many find anoying in a bag of mixed candy, especially if there are a lot of them.
Sniper is like boubblegum, you hardly ever mix it with anything else, and (unless you use the huntsman) probably messed up if you find yourself on the frontline. Some people find the chewing itritating, and don't like finding gum everywhere.
how about Demoknight?
Tf2 is the only game where I've taunted for so long that it kicked me for inactivity.
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This is like Matpat's Overwatch vs TF2 but everything is done right in this video.
Matpats video was incorrectly prepared pufferfish.
This video is correctly prepared pufferfish.
I feel like it would have been a lot better if he had gotten an actual TF2ber (TF2 RUclipsr) to debate on TF2's behalf rather than getting his editor (yeah, that other guy was his video editor... Emphasis on "was") to do 5 minutes of research before trying to make a valid argument.
FUNKe, LazyPurple, Uncle Dane, Mr Paladin, Skymin Slash, heck Muselk could do both sides! There's actually a really large TF2 community on RUclips and plenty would have gladly done a collaboration Deadlock with MatPat...
But because his 2 single TF2 videos were very poorly researched and he's traded video quality for clickbait over the years, pretty much nobody in the TF2 community has any respect left for him anymore.
@@cadunkus To be honest I never really liked most of his videos, especially newer ones. It feels like I'm listening to the weird, nerdy, edgy kids at school. And I don't mean the ones who talk about videogames and play Magic The Gathering at lunch time, I mean the ones who do the Naruto run, hiss at you, and go off on really weird rants. Most of his stuff feels like it's trying REALLY hard to be deep and meaningful but always falls short. A lot of recent content feels rushed and like he's just trying to be edgy.
This is especially the case after he got RUclips famous. He clearly never really wanted to do all those fnaf videos but he had to milk them for all they're worth for some revenue.
IcespherePlaysGames He has always erred on the side of cringy, but at least he did make interesting "food for thought" whenever he wasn't saying Mario is the antichrist.
Now, though, he hardly ever makes anything worth watching unironically.
And this video has the phrase “Demobananaknight”.
What if you
Wanted to go to heaven
But god said
"heRE's A dUrIaN"
Me: Can i get likes on my comment?
People: Here's a durian.
Durians are rad
Durians are extremely awesome
I smash a firrys skull in
Like the name killing furrys is full time job now
The most ironic parties is they both ended up losing the war, not to each other but to there creators.
Is anyone gonna talk about the fact that we're being talked to by an Orange pepper?
Like honestly, I think that's kinda cool by itself
what was in that gourmet cake?
the payload, man, the payload...
_They’re becoming sentient._
And neatly breaking down our favourite games using food analogies, but let’s not forget the issue, here.
If you had a tf2 cake and you put a new ingredient in, the whole cake needs to be changed. That’s what you call 11 years of code. Goddamn. Must be hard
I think deep down, we're all an orange pepper
S-pie-s and Pie-ro’s: exist
Sni-pie-er: Here’s a durian
Also I’d like to point this out
Medic and Engineer, being the two exceptions to the candy bar comparison, should be ice cream. If you add any chocolate candy to vanilla ice cream it’ll taste waaay better.
@I sPIEs and PIEros.
PIE
the FOODSTUFF
@I happens to the best of us
Salt-ier: Here's Painis Durian
And He Don't Like You.
Spynapple pizza
I
Here, have a pie. *gives you a cake*
Overwatch: had a problem with tracer pose
TF2: "Yeah I slapped My bum!"
*Mannrobics intensifie*
TF2: “The Spy has canonically fucked the Scout’s mom”
@@sninctbur3726 Blu Scout’s mother
Tf2: I have thousands of gamemodes and you can customize your favorite classes.
Overwatch: There is a durian
Honestly, Medic and Engineer is like vanilla ice cream, they make the others taste better than they use to.
I play TF2, but a cousin have Oveewtch and i play with him sometimes, and i think tf2 make me a better team mate, because i was playing Soldier 76 and when anyone need heal, i went and throw the heal things that Soldier 76 throws.
If you are asking how TF2 have relationship with that, just one word.
SANDVICH
Ahh yes the good ol' *sandvich*
@@smeggiamagarwine it a game unlockable eating it heals you up to full health but can be thrown to become a pickup that heals 50 percent of any players health(teammate or enemy)
Soldier isint even a healer lol
@@smeggiamagarwine okay thank you for clearing that up but don't comment random stuff and expect everyone to understand
@@smeggiamagarwine that I understand
Overwatch voice lines: I fight for honor; let's do this; ect.
Tf2 voice lines: IF I WEREN'T THE MAN I WAS I'D KISS YE; You died as you lived, morbidly obese; *SCREAMING EAGLES*; Ect.
Edit: I am not going to fix the spelling just to spite you
Muah
My voice cords broke trying to read this in each voice of the character
"There goes Scout. He ran fast and died a virgin."
~Spy
"Say goodbye to your kneecaps, chucklehead!"
"Wooooye, will ya look at that" - Engineer
Overwatch: You can't be rude! That'll get you kicked!
Meanwhile in TF2: "Repeat after me! MMMMMMLMLMLM, I'M DEAD!"
MLMLMLMLMLMLM I'M DEAD
Whos on fire now?
MMMMMMLMLMLM, I'M DEAD!
MMMMMLMLMLM IM DEAD can I have a Durian?
@@BuhBaBiBeBo *n o*
7:20 and then some rotten banana said "Hey Guys I took every way that is free of customizing your character and I packed it here" and that's how free item servers were born