Big camcorders vs small camcorders Sony CX405 Panasonic VX981 Z90V JVC 500
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- I LOVE CAMCORDERS! But which ones do I love more? I don't need big camcorders to impress people with my manliness. I love small consumer camcorders. Why do I love camcorders? Because they are FUN! Sure the sensors are smaller, so what. They are FUN and EASY to use and they can run all day without overheating. I don't need built in ND filters or XLR inputs or 4:2:2 Prorez and heck, I don't even need 4K! Geez, people are so obsessed with specs nowadays. I love making magic with little simple things.
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Panasonic HC-X1 camcorder
JVC GY-HC500U camcorder
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Unexpected cameo haha :) I hope the camcorder industry makes a comeback!
My two favorite Ontario photography dudes are collaborating!
Don't camcorders really make the most sense for vlogging? They do need to make a comeback.
Sup Casey?!
@@ScorpionRanchTX They make most sense for newsgathering and run & gun where you basically have no time for setup (menu diving). Break out the camera, plug in the mike (good old "stone age" XLR is so reassuring on the road) and get running in under a minute.
After watching one of your videos (and a few others), bought a JVC GYLS300 and a bunch of MFT len's instead of a giant Panasonic. Great size, weight, image quality, flexibility, battery life and it runs all day without smoke coming out of it.. Use this in conjunction with some MFT cameras as all can share the same len's. Have shot hundreds of hours of broadcast TV in the UK on this. Quite old but very useable. Also had a tiny Panasonic SD900 consumer camera back in 2011 (still have it, still works).. This blew most of the pro 1080p cameras at the time out of the water.
Thank Markus. Love your knowledge and vids. Always, Always. Look up your vids to get info on things I’m looking to buy. lol. Again thanks you Markus. Oh yeah. Still have my Sony. UTX-B40 lav mic I won on your giveaway. 👍👍
The DJI pocket cam 3 allegedly doesnt over heat, you should give it a try. Overheating is a deal breaker but I see your point on some form factors being too costly for the outcome.
Despite the number of models, there's less money being invested in camcorders (not properly updated as often). Updated small models do better than old large models. Sony should rationalise the number of models & avoid the ridiculous markup for each added feature.
Larger cameras can offer larger F-stop (smaller number) for better background blur. Larger sensors do offer better dynamic range to retain highlights but camera defaults can be bad & needs user intervention. The non-Sony & some Sony are penalized because they don't have the latest eye tracking & latest on-sensor phase detection AF.
Having instant access to 3 wheels/adjustments & builtin ND is great for pro's in some situations. Lot's of stop/start recording is better with wireless sound to camera (terribly slow workflow to re-sync separately recorded auidio).
Large format camcorder could be great with very large LCD & touch/remote controls.
So what would you recommend for use in like a bedroom situation, if you know what I mean. Asking for a friend
A7siii
Hey Markus, if you’re not using your FX6 can I have it? Could you help a broke film school student out 🥺 (not expecting this to work but what the heck, like your videos)
The one big problem of the smaller camcorders is that the're usually limited to 30fps at 4K. If you film sporting events or anything else that has a lot of movement then 60FPS looks so much better. If you're shooting 30FPS on a bright day without the right ND filter you end up with a staccato mess due to the ultra-high shutter speeds that usually result with small camcorders in those lighting conditions.
I would have loved to buy the Sony AX53 as a 4K upgrade to my 1080p Sony BOSS camcorder but only does 30FPS at 4K. Ended up going with the Panasonic HX-1500 because it does offer a full 60FPS at 4K. The stabilization isn't as good on the Panasonic and it is bigger but it's still super-light, has built-in ND filters, will record for 4 hours on a single battery, doesn't overheat and has a great EVF (something that's also missing on cheaper camcorders) for working in bright sunlight.
Completely agree with the staccato mess statement. Use ND filters with 180° shutter, or 60 FPS.
The reason for XLR is beyond just connecting shotgun microphones if you are in a news gathering scenario you need to be able to connect to a patch bay to get an audio feed of a press conference or connect to handheld microphone. Camera's like the larger ones in the video give you everything you need in one package and have features you need in broadcast like SDI. The smaller sensor in these also gives you greater focal length allowing for greater reach.
"XLR is part of the stone age..." I can add this sound device thingy for another $1K that is much better....
What I liked about the video is it backed up my decision to go with a Canon XA70 as opposed to a Canon XF605. The XA is half the size of the XF and has sound capability that allows for a nice semi-pro $300 shotgun mic. The bigger model is so nice... but twice the price. The cheapo 1080P consumer model camcorders aren't doing it for me for athletic events.
The problem is that he has never worked in a live broadcast situation. Mickey Mouse adapters and 3.5mm jack adaptors work well for mirrorless cams, but come to a situation where you need to feed to an OB van they will never cut it
Actually I worked in Hollywood for 20 years. Even made my own 2.5 million dollar movie that was in theaters all over the world. We did not use 3.5mm jacks. Pay attention. I said Lemo 3 and TAF4 . Maybe you don't know what that is.
To claim that XLR is part of the stone age is a bit ridiculous to me. There's no need to abandon XLR. How many shotgun microphones, multi or single input field recorders use a Lemo 3, or TA4F connector for input are there not any that I know of? TA3F or Mini XLR probably but aren't common. How many Lav mics use a sure TA4F or mini XLR connector plenty.
How many boom poles use anything but an XLR connector. in those scenarios what is the benefit of a smaller connector?
@@MarkusPix
I would agree. I hate/resent being placed in the situation of so much gear having 3.5mm because the majority of it does not use a threaded lock down hardware to keep them in place. It's just a matter of when it will loosen up, get "scratchy" and drop signal, not if. They've never had enough spring tension possible to 100% snap a plug in tight compared to the old 1/4" size of the same format.
It's also harder to find good shielded 2 conductor cables off the shelf in 3.5mm suitable jacket diameters.
Since 2020 I have the Sony AX-700, little brother to that Z90. No regrets. I already had invested in portable multi channel recorders for live music so I wanted to put them to use in video; thus my choice not to pay that $800 Cdn more for the XLR handle. I do much prefer the camcorder physical orientation and controls, always have. I confess I take out my A7III for video too but it's not as enjoyable, easy to steady by hand only, or reassuring to operate and monitor. @@MarkusPix
As a professional camera operator since 1994,I have to say, that the really big shoulder-mount ENG cameras. ( 20.000 dollars + ) are made to last, they are real workhorses. With very good viewfinders, Timecode generators (IN, OUT) , SDI1,SDI2 out, HDMI out, 4 audio channel input, built in multiple ND-s, built in audio limiters that can be adjusted or turned off, no overheating... many things why I still prefer them as my main camera. For a small camera I use the Sony FX3. But I agree, for RUclips is overkill to use such big cameras.
The Z90V in this video also has all that- SDI, HDMI, timecode, built in ND filters, 4 channel audio etc. I just never use that stuff
For me, the real question is how to get broadcast quality video at a reasonable price. I own a Sony CX900 (the HD prosumer version of the Z90) and am impressed how gorgeous my HD 60p Blu-rays look. The camera is far from perfect in design and feature set, but the images have made me a happy prosumer.
Sometimes i own Panasonic dvx100 & dvx200.
Where is Panasonic px800, px5000 & cx4000 ??
Yes, for a TV studio or ENG where you have a whole team for news, yes. But the cinematic world is different. Audio can be separatedly recorded (and much better quality), NDs can be attached (IF needed> control over lights!), SDIs are not relevant unless its hollywood and 2 teams, and so on... For the average artist, even cheap cameras like the FX30 are absolutely overkill. LF in Venice LOG? Holy crap 😀Who cares, if the story is not good.
I love shooting with my DSR500 even if it's just standard def. You can't hardly tell the difference after youtube's compression has done its worst anyway. If I'm just shooting for fun, I'll often just take that massive old monster out.
The new dji pocket cam with 1in sensor is, supposedly, pretty good.
@@TobiasRieperGoodit has a 4x digital zoom, but still not as good as camcorders, mirrorless or some phones
I can buy x3 cx405's, and a couple tripods and mics for the cost of one of those with the creator pack!
I use a camcorder with a 1inch sensor and 24-490 equivalent zoom. Thinking about getting the Osmo Pocket 3 for when I need something wider, 20mm equivalent lens, optional optical reducer takes it to 15mm.
Marcus has that one too. From the comments he’s made just doesn’t fit him as well a camcorder.
You left out the actual reasons for using pro gear: RUGGEDNESS. I have well-used AG-456 from 1996 (27 years old) that works perfectly. Of course you also left out having a built-in zoom lens, an actual handle, no rigging, built-in lens covers, you casually mentioned the ND filter when it's actually very important, no mention of able to use large capacity batteries, the endless connectors and controls.
But yes, they aren't meant for portability and RUclips videos, so I'm unsure why even bring them up in the first place.
I fell in love with camcorders with the first Sony Video 8. It had a flying erase head for clean edits (no VHS glitches) and it just seemed to get the shot every time. Camcorders are so well balanced and incredibly underrated these days. Great video Markus. BTW. Who doesnt love a good zoom rocker?
Markus, I was using the CX405 for a while, but needed a better sensor for night shooting. I switched over to the Sony a6300, but it overheated when shooting during the day. Your videos convinced me to temper my ego and go back to a camcorder. Picked up the Sony AX700, and it is so good. People always comment how good the video looks. Thanks for all you do in educating and entertaining us!
I also have the AX700, it's great. It's so easy to use even in manual mode. The only thing that's bad is if you're walking around you need a stabilization unit and it can get a bit heavy.
I love the AX53. I use it for top-down shots mainly now. I do love the Z90V and may end up still investing in one. Camcorders offer great functionality to gain greater focal length. I would love to see you do a similar video on ENG style cameras to add in the Z280, or the Z150. Great video! Thanks Markus!
that would be great, to see ax53 with 1" sensor from sony zv-1 series ^^
Me too man. I'm obsessed with camcorders.
Ive been wanting to get back into camcorders, how I started, now using DJI action cams I really miss the hands on, Something like the prosumer sony with the lens hood is what I need / want :P
If you are a camera operator, the big cameras feel like an extension to your body. The Sony FS7 is still a work horse. Big camera body with a Super 35 sensor, built in NDs, 4K and also Raw output. It was a costly camera and still is as a used one. Works right out of box without any extensions and is built like a tank.
I wish I saw this earlier. I would have bought that little Panasonic camcorder!
At least I'm subscribed now.
Excellent video as always. And a surprise cameo from Camera Conspiracies! Was not expecting that!
Nice video Markus I think it really depends on what you’re using the camera for I personally own 9 x Panasonic HCX1 cameras which I do for live concert and live sport. In fact there is currently a program on the BBC iPlayer which features all of my cameras, this particular model if it shot in 24p cinema 4K, offers a stunning picture they are super reliable run all day on batteries and yes as you say they do have excellent superb audio quality They’re also great run and gun documentary or news cameras. they are very very versatile indeed have shot music videos and interviews. I cannot recommend them highly enough
My church has 3 981's and we love them for live-streaming. solid little units that's for sure!
I already love your church 😊
Unless you’re in a pro broadcast studio, or taping church services or corporate seminars, xlr and big bulky cams are overkill. I miss my Sony HDW-F900R but I will never miss lugging that beast around!
Amen.
How do you think the Sony RX100vii would do for close up on small items? I film a lot of videos showing details of small coins. Right now I use my Sony Xperia 5 IV cell phone. :-)
I love equipment and playing with cool stuff though. (Also been loving that you and Kasey have been collaborating! So much fun!!)
I’m either buying a Sony z90v or a Sony a7 4 for RUclips
Any advice. I want simplicity, 4k without a crop, crisp thumbnails, great sound with no wind noise
Coming from a Sony a6100
Great sound has nothing to do with the camera
The Audio Series:
The Best Audio For Video- Part 1 series intro ruclips.net/video/yQOHtUwa60g/видео.html
Creating a Good Audio Recording Environment Indoors ruclips.net/video/zLF6Bru6vI4/видео.html
The Best Microphones ruclips.net/video/9XLIOzikmMw/видео.html
Audio Recorder Epic Comparison ruclips.net/video/1EUMF8kl4vY/видео.html
Wireless Audio Mic Systems Epic Comparison ruclips.net/video/d0waTFJQdts/видео.html
Windproofing a lavalier Microphone Trick for outdoor Audio Recording ruclips.net/video/whuthtNchkI/видео.html
Where do I hide my mic ? ruclips.net/video/mq4so1DUKR8/видео.html
How Pros mount & HIDE Lavalier Microphones, Transmitters & Recorders ruclips.net/video/6QKO1B_pkZ8/видео.html
Why NOT to stick a microphone in your hair ruclips.net/video/devmHFaDWYM/видео.html
Audio Post Processing for Videos ruclips.net/video/Gs6Yh1TfU20/видео.html
Audio Series wrap up, misc stuff ruclips.net/video/zgQYKtBLmKg/видео.html
I really like the Sony Z90V. Great size, and I prefer camcorders for videos. Thanks for the comparisons!
I would say camcorders are more about ergonomics and how you hold the camera then anything else. Also cameras have a good general lens. Its why TV stations use them. I heard about some TV show wanting to switch to the Canon C300 back in the day and Philip Bloom again that's going to be a headache switching lens I believe it was a surfing showing in Australia. And who wants to change lens all the time on the beach with all that sand and salt in the air.
Agreed.
Loved the cameo from Camera Conspiracies. The most fun camera I have is the GX850- uncomplicated, take it out, shoot from the hip. Super fun.
I LOVE the GX850 !!!
@@MarkusPix I tried to like the G100. On paper, it's better, but the EVF isn't great and the flip-out screen isn't as fun as the flip -up screen IMO.
@@MarkusPixare there any low light camcorders that can film the night sky, not just the moon but stars? Appreciate your help and advice thank you!
Hi Markus I was wondering if you could make a film with all of your cheep gear and a few actors just like your last big film that you did in the 1990's I would love to see how it's done on a budget with cheap gear basically a basic camera basic tripod basic lights a short script with a few actors and some foam core and minimal decorations I only say this because I am trying to get into short film making with all of my cheep budget gear lights cameras mics and and a few actors I have gathered like noore than 5 actors and would love to learn from you how to make it all work into a short film
We are waiting your DJI Pocket 3 Active Track videos.
Coming right up!
Hello Markus, try out the DJI Osmo Poket 3. That would be a great comparison?
I got one. Video soon.
I work as a professional cameraman here in Germany. I must say, there are different cameras for different purposes. The cameras you showed are all small compared to what you need for professional use in sports, for example. We are currently working with the Sony PXW-Z750, where one lens alone is as expensive as all the cameras in your video combined. There are good reasons for this: the usability and the speed. No DSLR or mini camcorder can keep up. For portraits or film-like documentaries we also use the Sony Alpha 7S III and mainly the FX9. There are appropriate cameras for all purposes.
What happen with de Dji osmo pocket 3 video ?😅
Too many DJI owners out there with no sense of humor
I think you're awsome in what you have to say. What would be your best advice for music videos I was thinking of something I could maybe hook up a decent mic that won't clip like a zoom but all that is going into alot of money your thoughts it would mainly be for youtube and maybe movie shorts😊
This sounds like an audio question (although music videos are usually lip synced)
The Audio Series:
The Best Audio For Video- Part 1 series intro ruclips.net/video/yQOHtUwa60g/видео.html
Creating a Good Audio Recording Environment Indoors ruclips.net/video/zLF6Bru6vI4/видео.html
The Best Microphones ruclips.net/video/9XLIOzikmMw/видео.html
Audio Recorder Epic Comparison ruclips.net/video/1EUMF8kl4vY/видео.html
Wireless Audio Mic Systems Epic Comparison ruclips.net/video/d0waTFJQdts/видео.html
Windproofing a lavalier Microphone Trick for outdoor Audio Recording ruclips.net/video/whuthtNchkI/видео.html
Where do I hide my mic ? ruclips.net/video/mq4so1DUKR8/видео.html
How Pros mount & HIDE Lavalier Microphones, Transmitters & Recorders ruclips.net/video/6QKO1B_pkZ8/видео.html
Why NOT to stick a microphone in your hair ruclips.net/video/devmHFaDWYM/видео.html
Audio Post Processing for Videos ruclips.net/video/Gs6Yh1TfU20/видео.html
Audio Series wrap up, misc stuff ruclips.net/video/zgQYKtBLmKg/видео.html
Totally agree. Been shooting TV programs and professionally for 40 years. These days I put a GH5 in a cage to make it look professional and everyone's impressed.
About 25 years ago I was chatting to a friend about the weight and hassle with Betacam cameras and wished we had something smaller and lighter. Now they're here but you can't pitch up to a pro shoot with something that looks the same as what your client bought for his wife for her birthday (like the GH5). So you have to be creative. I always lean toward ENG shooting and a light cage generally works for me. The GH 5 in a cage is still too heavy and clumsy for me, you battle to get focus. So I'll take the big, impressive looking camera around on the shoot, but most of the time I shoot 95% on my Mavic mini drone, often just held in my hand. I can fly it too and the picture is phenomenal.
Thanks for your channel, it's by far the best for professional advice. 😊🌈
I'll bet Casey was so unimpressed lol.
you love camcorder and it will love you back
Why did you delete the two videos where you talked about the new god Osmo poket 3
Too many DJI owners with no sense of humor
@@MarkusPix That's a shame, I would have been very interested in your opinion on pocket 3.
You're such a big kid but your enthusiasm is infectious. It's also lovely that youre so down to earth and unpretentious. Yet you've all these years of experience that you share with the world. Thanks for the tips!
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Mr. Markus, you make some sound arguments in regards to the smaller camcorder's. And I'll admit that I was one of those folks that liked using the larger camera's for ENG work (electronic news gathering). But boy was my body tired after several hours of usage. I'll also agree that nowadays the smaller camcorders can do what we use to pay 1ooo,s of dollars on for those extra pro features which many prosumer and smaller camcorders now incorporate. So in summary... I find it difficult to dispute or find anything wrong with your claims in favor of the smaller camcorders.
I think of the large ones as being good "event cameras", for something in an auditorium or large performance space, that can be set up with minimal hassle. The XLR is handy for taking an audio feed from a sound board. I use a couple of these for work and they do the job. I have smaller camcorders that I personally bought for similar tasks. Once again, they do the job. We are lucky to be living in a time when choices have never been wider, even if prices seem to be creeping up. And up...
Thumbs up if you own a RX100vii
Camera Conspiracies at the end?! My two favorite camera people!
Halo Markus.. I subscribe cause you are wearing Batik motif shirt.
Nah.. 😊 actually love your camcorder review. Been trying to buy one. But still confused and uneducated yet.
The problem with this video is he appears to only be concerned with his RUclips video applications. There are many cameras for many applications and workflow. I like Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro 12k, but I do a lot of doc work, TV commercials, and indie film work. So, everybody will see things from the perspective they work in.
I LOVE my Sony CX-405 even more than you I have2 and will soon buy my 3rd Markus. What I like best about it is I can edit 10+ hours of recording all of the bird, and squirrel action in the day and at night possum, racoon and skunk action down to 10 minutes or less and put it in my PC. I record everything at HD 1080p. I know nothing about XAVC-S. Thank you very much for this great review of my favorite HANDYCAM. Have a Happy Halloween weekend Markus.
I agree that the shape of a camcorder is way more fun to use than an SLR or one of those gigantic pro cameras. I have an old JVC GZ-EX210BUS that only does 1080p but I love using it for recording bands when I go out to see them play live. The sound quality of the built-in mic is actually pretty good!
Thank you again for another very objective video. There are only two types of photographers/videographers, those who make money (for living) from the hardware and those who do this for hobby/interest/social work. I fall into second category. Given this, I do not have financial resources to even think about buying anything that is more than few hundred dollars. When the video production is for pure joy / enjoyment it does not matter if things are HD, 720P or 4K. Many people are driven by equipment. They think that newer the equipment, better results. To that end, as someone else has also mentioned, only drawback of consumer level equipment is that repeated use of it will eventually cause it to deteriorate. I shot an event where I ended up in renting a video camera (no money/funding for production !!). During that event I did a secondary shoot (B Roll) with a small Sony handycam I had for more than 8 years now. I can guarantee you that my footage from vintage sony handycam can compete with the footage I got from rental video. As a matter of fact as Markus said, rental camera was no fun to use. For pure artistic purpose any equipment will work well. Again, personally I like lower end equipment because there are less things to mess with and less things can go wrong. Thanks again for putting objectivity and creativity ahead of equipment.
This review completely misses the point of ‘large’ form factor professional video cameras.
If they are such ‘dinosaurs’, why do I have two of the HC-X2, why do they still get great reviews, and why are they my ‘go to’ cameras when I want to do serious videography? (and I also own a Panasonic S5 mirrorless camera). It’s because the video quality in real world conditions of the HC-X2 clearly outperforms consumer camcorders, or the RX 100 series you refer to.
And it’s also because large form factor video cameras do a wide variety of jobs, and they do them very well.
Here’s what the HC-X1/X2 etc. can do, and the Mirrorless / RX100 / small camcorders cannot do -
• Immediate intuitive control over the image, composition, and audio that other cameras fail to provide.
• Run and gun shooting with inbuilt handle, audio, and infinitely better ergonomics / form factor
• ENG shooting e.g. phantom power for XLR mics
• 4K 60p for fluid motion and / or allowing fluid slow motion when slowed down in post
• Inbuilt ND filters to instantly adapt to any lighting situation
• Real time manual control of audio levels and independently control of left and right channels
• Much better onboard inbuilt audio microphone
• Immediate precise control of the iris, aperture and zoom with the 3 manual control rings
• Immediate access with physical buttons for most other controls
• Fluid / slow ‘presidential zoom’ like a broadcast camera lens
• 4 to 5 hour continuous record time on 1 battery
• Dual card / relay / proxy recording
• Form factor provides natural stabilisation (HC-X1/X2 can even be shoulder mounted)
• Oh and did I mention the glorious 20x zoom. The marginally better image quality of mirrorless cameras (in ideal conditions) are meaningless if you cannot quickly frame the composition correctly and have to zoom in and crop in post - losing all that slight image quality advantage
• The ergonomics of the HC-X1 . X2 are exemplary - it’s a joy to film with compared to the limitations of a clunky mirrorless / compact camera.
• Quality optical glass. How can a $300 consumer camcorder possibly compare with the optics of a $3,000 professional camcorder?
• 10 bit 4:2:2 internal recording at up to 200mbps
• High resolution viewfinder
• Rugged construction designed for professional real world use
…I do laugh at mirrorless camera users, who have added a handle, an audio adaptor, and lens hood, and external recorder and it ends up being the same size, weight, and yet is still less practical than a professional form factor camcorder…
Long live good ergonomics, and video cameras that are designed to be video cameras.
Looks like another middle aged man was triggered 😄 Obviously doesn't have a Z90V
My age has nothing to do with it. You have just overlooked a huge number of real world factors and have oversimplified the comparison
I used a JVC camcoder, had to stop around 2012, because it started to show hot pixels. Swapped it for Canon 650D back then. They both collect dust on a shelf now, but sometimes I think about taking JVC for a grainy session.
Love camcorders ❤❤great video ! Thank you for sharing!
I love the Sony RX S100. It does amazing things; I agree! The only thing it doesn't do is stay on for more than 5 minutes or so. It makes it hell to film a long take or to film oneself while performing a 45 minute set. So it looks like the only other option is the Z90V. Thank you for all the great info and tips. P.S. Really enjoying your videos - keep 'em coming!
You are exactly right but the big ones make one look "professional". Client likes cinema size equipment at thier venue, you are right though.
Your point was excellent that normally we record 5 or 10 minutes of video at a time. And this limitation made me change my workflow and today i prepare my videos a lot more carefully and i spend way lot less time on editing and cutting out waste footage. great videos you have.
I keep a Panasonic X1000 just for time shots what might see the camera recording for hours and tech work where you don't really know how long the clip might be. My others overheat or just drop after about 1/2hr to 1hr depending on which camera I'm using. Audio has always been a hassle, but after a lot of money spent I'm back to shot gun mics on all my cameras. That Panasonic VX981 I've been told over and over again it's GREAT for what I'm doing. Budget however says, not this year LOLOL...
how does the image compare from the x1000 and vx981 in terms of run and gun? Would you say its worth to get the x1000 if it's only twice the price for quality alone? I don't mind the weight.
The vx981 is in many ways an excellent "run and gun" choice over the big X1000. Features like stabilized recording alone makes it a better choice. The X1000 needs a tripod or a really strong steady hand. That difference alone makes the vx981 better.
i was just looking for used camcorders on ebay yesterday... this video will help me allot, thanks
Markus, what do you think of the Sony FX3? You probably already knew that they used that camera for the movie The Creator. Have you seen it?
I've been using my 405 for years just love it, I started out with Panasonic 3tube and Sony 3/4inch tape, over 45lbs walking around plus battery belts, uggg, now my Sony 405 is my choice for video, thanks Markus, glad you still have your 405
Physical buttons are good though. How I'd love to be able to turn off zebras, focus peaking and whatnot via a dedicated button! When you're shooting interviews run and gun style, you simply don't have time dive into the menu for anything. You need to keep your eye on what's happening in front of the camera. Besides, the menu structure in my SONY CVX900 (which does shoot good pictures otherwise) is a pain in the arse. Too bad those big boys aren't any better (and maybe a little smaller). The medium SONY ones (like the Z90V) are a nice size.
Besides, the power zoom is a big PRO for camcorders. Not happening with any photo camera. Sure, you don't need it for talking head content. But out in the field, it's great.
With kasey camera conspiracy!! Same wild spirit.👍🏼
Awesome video! I don't know why people have such a hate for camcorders, I own several and it is funny how some people react to them. Anywho... fun to see Camera Conspiracies in the end! Really enjoyed the colab you did with Kasey!
It's the ergonomics, the style, the state-of-mind you get when you hold an actual camcorder in your hands. - James D Watkins artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS.
I really enjoy my Panasonic VX 981 and still discovering how to use it. I still have my betacams and VHS camcorders, just hard to get rid of my old cameras. Thanks for the recommendation on the Panasonic.
I love my mini but mighty cx405! Thanks for making this videos Markus, it’s entertaining and informative.
Peace.
Wait!!! Who was that at the end?😅 That guy is always funny
Haha I’m so glad to see the little RX100 took the win again.❤ Z90V and VX981 are great too! 😊
One thing I’m not a huge fan of with smaller camcorders is that they shake easier, and with action zoom shots that’s an issue. I’ve found that servo zoom smoothness usually compromised in smaller but that not definite. Low light capabilities are always something to consider as well.
CX-405 is good. IMHO the CX-300 is better. The older version of this camera includes WIFI. Don't know if it works, but SONY claims the app controls the camera for ON/OFF and zoom. Used, it's half the price. I'd say, go for the CX-330
You are the reason I bought a CX405. Glad to see you are still making videos about it.
If you are talented please don't buy JVC camera.
I feel like my IQ go up by 1 point every time I see one of your videoes. ofcause it dosent but I feel smarter. I like the small camcorders the best too. back in 1995 a camera was the size of a javalin at rocket system, heavy as hell. A tip for all you camcorder lovers. put at sab from a compound bow on it, so you get a tiny 30cm stick under it. works wonders. or a tiny 30cm tripod that will work too
Did your wife tell you to clean out all your obsolete equipment and you decided to make a video about it
No, I like to play with camcorders and not get swept up like sheep with the latest trends
@@MarkusPix Then why did you buy the Osmo Pocket 3 then? If you already have old stuff to make the ultimate camera setup only way heavier.
They are not "more professional because of XLR". They are all-in-one and that is what you need as an ENG cameraman. When have to record a fire from 100 meters out, I need the long reach of the lens. Plus the smooth, corrected zoom action of the rocker. When have to record a 3h long event without interruption, the ability to put different size batteries and to overflow from 1 cheap SD to another makes it possible etc, etc. In the TV station I work, we have like 10 of these. And no one uses anything else. Trust me, if there was a better option, we would have changed long ago. And the "look impressive" aspect is ludicrous. Never heard a professional cameraman to even mention that.
Why would you buy that $3k JVC if you don't need the streaming features? That thing can do things those others can't. Like allowing for REMI broadcasting by sending multiple SRT streams of each cam from a venue to a control room somewhere else. They actually send SEI timecode so the streamed multicams can be synced together at the other end for switching. Pretty valuable feature. Maybe there's another camera that does that but I'm not aware of it. One of the main uses for those big camcorders are for live broadcast. It's not just for the big TV networks anymore. There are a lot of live stream production companies out there who need things like XLR, SDI, and NDI. Not everyone has cameras just to shoot little five minute RUclips videos.
Oh wow this episode is so COOL! I'm in for smaller ones too. The Canon people must be pissed off seeing this video. haha
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my peave of camcorders is the automatic audio level, what should be quiet background noise ramps up to a distracting sound, which gets knocked back as soon as something louder comes along, totally unrealistic. Do any of these cams have manual level control? (i usually record audio with a Zoom H5 but nice to have backup)
Going with Sony cx405 60x with micro sim $225 instead of $500 no zoom go pro
I still love my Canon Vixia 800!
the Z90 shoots some hard to use XAVX-S SONY codec that does not play well unless transcoded I HATE sony for this . they are worse then apple .
why no pure MOV or MP4( like most mirrorless cams use! ) ( H,265 or for all I care at this point 264 Hell Ill take 8 bit 420 If it was as user friendly as my GH5's
Canon had the wonderfull XF400 ! but MXF is a Pain. and it had at best 1H batt life .. whats the point .......
the current XA70 is a downgrade from the XF400 and GOD I wish the XF 200 body was still a formfactor. its just the bulk I need.
Dont need a iris ring but focus and zoom is a must .
sans the 600 and 700's the smaller cams are just a Joke.
=started on a XL1s when I was a kid. moved to A XHA1s
Twin 70D's as the 1DMk3's Ii had cant do video.
Picked up the Pani CX-350
LOVE IT sans the bloody menus > and useless Autofocus
so its being sold. picked up a used JVC HM200 for 700 bucks
wanted a 1 inch sensor for better perf in low light as I Cant in my line of work add lights easy .
but I had to settle for the smaller JVC Is cheap and has just enough for set and forget work I do most of the time.
I Can gap full its weakenss with the GH5's
Still a month and a 4 grand budget . I cant get what I want in a camcorder>
the X1500 /X2000 was OK but the buttons are WAY too soft to be tactile with gloves on in the cold.
Really what need to happen is a Ext controller to add back menu and back dial buttons to like a GH5 like cam.
so Can Rig up what amounts to a XL1
I just hate menus. Would do a LS300 but for the cost . I would need to get a 2nd lens and that HUGE sensor will make what little Autofocus these things have be that much worse. . sadly .
so a half incher is just more leway for a derpy AF system
also
If any One puts Micro USB on there products in the last 5 year new tech I WONT buy it
looking at YOU SONY
"Big camcorders" still "small sensors"
I guess for "ENG" smaller sensors are "better" (?)
I would like to see a "Modern" / "Updated" version of a camcorder with stabe. and low light sensitivity (and no jello shutter) - But I totaly agree...I Love the small camcorder form factor...and it seems to me people are "jumping through hoops" with all types of cages and brackets...to make a standard camera body into...well a "camcorder" - Years ago I saw on the cover of (If I remember right) video maker magizine a "DSLR" camera rig and the article teaser was (something to the effect of:) "Are DIY rigs getting a little too much DIY?" - Who knows - if the old saying of "Everything old is new again" holds true - Maybe we will see the return of the beloved camcorder form factor.
Love your vids!
Having the XLR inputs is more about ubiquity and properly adjustable preamps than the semantics of words like "professional". Different things for different use cases. I like small camcorders, but I like the big ones more, partly because I actually find them more fun to use, and more practical because they have all the controls I need while shooting at my fingertips. Separate control rings for focus, zoom, and iris, the jog wheel can further select to adjust shutter speed and gain, ND filters can be swapped out at the flick of a switch, all without having to stop shooting. Plus audio gain adjustment if not using AGC. The law of diminishing returns is in effect, undeniably, but it's the tool I like. It just weighs 13 pounds...
Really enjoy your vids Markus but this one is just wrong. (I can understand your preferences but don't say the big ones are no good)
The bigger camcorders are for larger sensors. Better for low light etc. Pros hardly ever use AUTO so having easy controls is important too.
The smaller camcorders have been getting better but not enough for professional use.
The reason why I sometimes use a big stone age camcorder (the panasonic hc-2xe) is because I make video's for people that come out the stone age. Like video's for library's, theatre and stuff where only old people come. With musicvideo's or events where young people come I always use the Sony 7ii because they understand that it's way more professional and you can't expect someone to carry +2kg for a whole day and only having tripod footage sucks now a days.
I have been working as an ENG cameraman for television for over 31 years and currently use a Sony PXW-Z-750, Sony Z-90, Sony FX-9, Sony FX-6 and Sony a7sIII. Each of these cameras has its advantages and disadvantages. The shooting situation you encounter is crucial when choosing a camera
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Can you please do an episode on computer specifications that one we need for editing pictures when stitching 3 to 5 pictures together to make a Pamama and basic video editing as well for the average person with current software technology,
Does one really need 32GB of ram or more over 16GB of ram, or is 16GB sufficient for most amateur use,
My preferred brand of computer is Apple there’s a big jump in price when one goes from 16 to 32GB of ram,
I know Moran is always better, but I’m trying to think of affordability as well,
Trying to avoid overkill.
You need XLR to work with other companies in a venue or to connect to a preexisting system for like press conferences. You do know the Use of a bigger sensor, don't you? And just raising your shutter speed instead of using an ND-Filter is so very wrong. It creates a different look. Physical buttons are there so you can operate them while shooting without looking for them. Autofocus, if used at all at these cameras where you are supposed to look through are merely a suggestion cause the camera wouldn't dare to interfere with an operator. i don't like those clunky camcorders eighter but your reasons to hate on them are wrong on so many levels. I'd rather get a modular setup with a seperate scrren, seperate audio-recorder, a headlight if needed aso asf. wich could easily e based on a A7 or something alike.
I worked with Sony for over 4 decades. Just ones I bought a Canan VIXIA. But the problem with Canan is that they don't know their own product. If you need some any advice, they just send to another Canon Place. They just care about sales and don't give a shit about their customers. With Sony you get optimal support, and everybody talks with you is really an expert, who don't let you leave before a solution is found. With a Sony you are always in good hands.
I am sort of a purist - if you shoot video use a camcorder optimized for video shooting. If you're a still photographer, use a DSLR or MILC. I know I probably sound like a dinosaur but I think all of the hybrid MILCs we've seen in the last 10 years seem to make compromises, and also are subject to overheating issues.
Some great info, but you fail to address the issue of autofocus. For me it is a dedicated video camera for that reason, zooming in and out and staying in focus is a big issue with video work, I don't think the little Sony RX100 camera will be able to match the dedicated video cameras for autofocus.If it can then I will certainly consider one?
I love these little camera conspiracies/vegetable police cameos you’ve been dropping around in your videos 😂
Thanks for the great videos, but after watching a couple of yours, I'm a little confused. I am doing videos from an overhead stand for viewing a work desk, for assembly of models. This camera will never leave from this position. So I think from one of your other videos, a simple Panasonic camcorder would be the best choice. But what model.
Anyone else here please jump in if you are a model maker a vid the process.
Cheers
I have had over 10 mini dv cam s which all went faulty, ironically the Samsung VP M 50 which was my 1st and cheapest,lasted the longest, just done a test recording using a cannon UC 8000 around 22 years old!
When there’s more money in consumer products and manufacturers don’t listen to their professional customers, this happens. Do you remember when it made sense to buy a Mac Pro, use it as a professional tool and you could be certain that for years and years, a cheap second-hand consumer laptop wouldn’t beat its performance? Those days are gone.
Don’t chase useless and overpriced features and temporary, short-term gains when you could enjoy reasonably priced prosumer or even consumer equipment and pass on some of the savings onto your clients or invest in other equipment. Or some of you may spend it on haircuts, if you are fortunate enough to have some hair left. Personally, that’s not a concerns for me. I just bought a couple of Canon XL1s cameras for around £100 each and for even less, I bought an original Sony RX100. No, I haven’t got much hair, but I’ve got the equipment for a film crew from twenty years ago!
I feel i couldnt agree more to have fun with the photography. well... here you have video cameras and i watched that and understood that you're talking about video but to anyone who is looking for cameras:
Buy what makes you happy. Even the dinosaur cameras. If that makes you happy and give you the reason to shoot then you gotta buy it even if mark says the sony can do it. I myself am after all these years wanting to buy a Nikon d3, a pro digital SLR camera to take event photographs because it works for the weddings and events I do. I currently shoot Fujifilm, and I have x100's and a x30 and used to have a x70. I tell ya mark is right, they are small and easy to use. Well he didnt say that exactly bout my Fuji cameras but still I am warning you all to buy what you want. If you dont you will have soooo much heartbreak and even hit a invisible wall in making things if you dont feeeeel you can do it. So if you think that is lame to read and you go this far well... you can always believe your camera is good enough and its up to you to use it better. For me I cant add a vertical grip and additional batteries to my small cameras. And doing weddings I have been caught many more times I can care to admit needing another battery and I wasn't ready.... I can get more work done with a 16 year old Nikon d300 than I can with a Fujifilm. But for portrait shoots I blow the nikon out of the water. That'll be the time I use a small camera.
Good work MARK!!!
I see cameramen following around reporters chasing people leaving courtrooms or whatever. And they’re using the clunky cameras. I always think couldn’t they just use a smartphone for shooting that rubbish, in horizontal format of course.
I swear, I am so lost on what I should do. So many choices. Do I get a camera that does both, Do I get a camcorder that only does video. Your information is very helpful and I dig the shirts bro. Very retro!!
Panasonic HC-X1? That's an oldy, I am a middle aged man with a huge HC-X2 😅
But seriously, the weight is being a problem during long film sessions.
Thank you for talking about the fun element. I like shooting on small camcorders, but they aren't used a lot in the RUclips sphere so they don't get much attention. Still, I like them and have been having fun with RUclips and family videos.
Why do u think manufacturer stop developing cam corder? Yes i got myself a Sony CX405. But enjoying is as much. Love the 60x zoom