To clarify, there are a lot of good/great rolls I dismantled in the video but it's only because I ALREADY HAVE A SIMILAR OR BETTER ROLL from prior runs OR I just have something to replace it already. I have played too much of this game mode and have gotten hundreds, if not thousands of guns. Trust me please 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏 (Also my vault is full 🥲)
Yesterday I turned in 360 Brave tokens, did 3x 50 Wave Normal runs, & did Legend 10 Wave Farm for 90mins & got a total of 0 Shinys for the whole day 👎🏼
Blast radius reduces the direct impact damage of Mountain top so the most important thing is hard launch which reduces blast radius by 10 & implosion which reduces it by 5, spike spilts the damage which essentially increseases the damage but not as much as implosion does by decreaseing the blast radius. Spike< implosion < Hard Launch< Hard launch+ spike< Hard launch + Implosion. If you get a blast radius never masterwork it. On the edge you want spike, or mini frags spike still slightly edges out mini frag in DPS. both are the top tier everything else is preference I like to up velocity & reload with a slight edge to reload for me.
they only increased it for completion of every 10 rounds at least that's what I heard, I also heard to save tokens for the 30th then blow your load in other words later today
yeah shoot to loot kinetic is really nice but I have a old roll with that already. firefly precision instrument is good too but I feel like I'd be using a different weapon than hung jury at that point 👍
yeah these will most likely get power crept but it's fun to get the shiny variants and use them while they're good. I play a ton of high end content/lowman stuff where the newest weapons usually shine and I like it to be as easy as possible 😂 completely understandable though 👍
I mean it’s like the entire design philosophy to keep anybody playing if nobody cared for the “ultimate god roll” weapons there wouldn’t really be any level of replay ability lol I totally agree though, I remind myself often not to invest too much time because by DLC the new weapons are just going to be slightly better anyway. (But shiny)
That’s the point of the game tho. If you were satisfied with the gun for several years you wouldn’t see a point in using any other gun, however the design is so that eventually it will be replaced by a new gun some other season
I got two back to back yesterday finally after having it attuned for two weeks. Smallbore, stability mw, flared mag well, heal clip, incandescent. Worth it.
I've gotten like 2 shinies on average from the actual activity. But the box gives nothing it feels like. Think I'm gonna hold my tokens for a few more days and see if bungie says anything just incase.
I feel like the more you play the less chance you get shinys, i didn't play that much at all and I got the god roll shiny edge Transit. Plus a few other decent shiny rolls.
Turned in 30 today and got 5 shinies so I'm pretty happy, got the blast furnace I wanted with trmors + frenzy/firefly! But still no heal clip + incandescent luna,, it doesn't exist
Implosion rounds is better for mountain top as well as blast radius is the worst masterwork you can get to the point of if you level it you’re making it worse
I spent a couple hundred tokens and got 1 single shiney… I also spent a ton of time in legend onslaught last night without a single shiney drop. So either I’m insanely unlucky or the buff wasn’t as big as they claimed. It’s BS
I have a really good shiny roll with that already, there's a lot of good rolls I dismantled because I already have similar or better rolls in the vault from prior runs. Trust me I know lol
It is not you. I did 550 and got 0 shinnies.. I did get 7 IDENTICAL HAMMERHEAD but was attuned to Lunas and have 2 5/5 of that gun... They lied to us, again.. No way it is buffed 2x.. NO WAY! I am so tired of Bungie again, they feel like they are falling back into the same bad practices that got them in trouble. Makes no sense.. Trust me your RnG is not even real RnG with Bungies rounding system. 2x to them is likely rounded up from 1.02x... I am not even sure I am joking..
@@LastNameInTown i really have no idea what is going on it been really for 4 weeks am only going after edge transet and the drop is awful .. if it is not buffed they should tell us instead of grinding the whole week for nothing i feel i got burnt out
I got a shiny 5 out of 5 edge Iwill trade you for you mountain top the only ALH mountain top I can get to drop is vorpal I will literally take ALH + recombo doesnt even have to Hard launch implosion/spike 4 weeks & over 4000 trophies & nothing. I would even take an ALH + frenzy..
I've gotten my 35th Shiney MT in the last 6+ weeks of farming it and I have NOT gotten Auto/Recomb yet. I do have my Shiney Auto/Vorpal that's a perfect 5/5 though.
spent legit 600 tokens and got a total of 1 shiny drop. and guess what ? it was a none focused drop and to top of of the turd sundae bungie served up it was an ass role lunas howl.
Legend 50 waves on midtown with at least one Orpheus Rig deadfall hunter and one Phoenix Protocol warlock. Average about 55min with a solid team but you can get under 50 if everyone is good enough 👍 Also make sure to pick up the daily bounties as they give you 2 trophies per bounty and they're easy to complete. Refreshable on each character too
Feel you bro got 6 or 7 from 62 attempts, thought it was like a 10% which is a silly buff, worse looking at your results, use to get n exotic within 5 attempts from 3 of Coin back in days, Bungie ide of RnG buffs always sucks eggs
Yes. for me adleast, i spent 777 yesterday and got 16-17 shines which is pretty good, ive got another 1000 to use but i have all the shinys i want so im not in a rush I was using the glitch that cheeseforever posted. Idk if that does something in spaghetti code but when i ran to reactivate then ran back i was seemingly getting shinys alot.
lol. Thats not even a glitch. Someone legit convinced him it is. I tested it a bunch with Lunas howl focus being as close as possible to the chest. It was still complete rng. You just got lucky on the shinys
I'm talking about PvE for almost every single gun in this video, this is (for now) a PvE channel. And at this current moment in time, blast furnace in PvE is average. Even then, messenger, no time to explain, and chattering bone are all better kinetics in that slot for PvP IMO. I just don't care for blast furnace when I still want better Edge transits, mountaintops, and lunas 🤷♂ I kept a PvE one to see how the changes are for TFS and will only keep a GOOD PvP blast furnace if I get it while focusing other stuff but that's it
I retract my statement as I realized you might've not been talking to me 😅. They are getting a 20% overall damage buff and an additional 15% damage buff to minors in The Final Shape which is why I'm keeping one to try out.
hard to get godroll, blast i never had even one kinetic frenzy even with shit perks, luna if there is cure i dont get reload and you need masterwork for reload, if there is enlightened i dont get armor pierce and you need it for taking down shields faster, have godroll deconstruct grenade that is so good this week but in 4 days delete
Dude why do so many people bug on Desperate measures, did I miss the memo like that's a %50 damage buff compared to %15 like r u fuckin high bro, like yea, you gotta use ur abilities but your just playin the game as it's supposed to be played and WITH SUBSISTENCE ARE YOU SERIOUS BRO?! that's a great ass combo. fuckin "Recluse sucks" my ass
Desperate measures isn't bad at all but it isn't a 50% buff that's a huge stretch. It's 30% MAX. And yeah recluse is not that good in comparison to their counterparts in arc and solar. Anything with voltshot and ESPECIALLY incandescent beats any void smg and day of the week regardless of it synergizes well with the build or not. Rolls for guns DO NOT MATTER in low end content. Anything is usable. Recluse isn't being used in high end content effectively unless you are building completely around the gun like using Gyrfalcons. And in comparison to ALL of the other brave weapons? Yeah recluse is a bottom tier contender. 🤦♂️
To clarify, there are a lot of good/great rolls I dismantled in the video but it's only because I ALREADY HAVE A SIMILAR OR BETTER ROLL from prior runs OR I just have something to replace it already. I have played too much of this game mode and have gotten hundreds, if not thousands of guns. Trust me please 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
(Also my vault is full 🥲)
“The only thing I really want is a good edge”. Me too bro…. Me too….. 😉
Yesterday I turned in 360 Brave tokens, did 3x 50 Wave Normal runs, & did Legend 10 Wave Farm for 90mins & got a total of 0 Shinys for the whole day 👎🏼
Sounds about right 😭😭
@@keegab You guys should have waited for today's patch.
I did my pulls at reset cuz I had class soon :P Then they announced maintenance 🤦♂️
0 x 2 = 0
@@keegab I feel you. I did the same but the in game pop up was the day before the maintenance so who knows.
They 100% forgot to buff it
Blast radius reduces the direct impact damage of Mountain top so the most important thing is hard launch which reduces blast radius by 10 & implosion which reduces it by 5, spike spilts the damage which essentially increseases the damage but not as much as implosion does by decreaseing the blast radius. Spike< implosion < Hard Launch< Hard launch+ spike< Hard launch + Implosion. If you get a blast radius never masterwork it. On the edge you want spike, or mini frags spike still slightly edges out mini frag in DPS. both are the top tier everything else is preference I like to up velocity & reload with a slight edge to reload for me.
Great explanation!
No but seriously I had so much fun watching the last tokens of bravery video so im really happy you do it again.
Glad to hear that ❤️
Dude. I spent 170 tokens yesterday and played for like 5 hours today....
0 shiny and on top of that my drops where all shit......
Im done bro...
Dropped 400 myself and got 3 gilded so yeah didn’t notice ANY buff to drop rate!
they only increased it for completion of every 10 rounds at least that's what I heard, I also heard to save tokens for the 30th then blow your load in other words later today
The hungjurry shoot to loot/kinetîc tremor n firefly/precision instrument is good ngl
yeah shoot to loot kinetic is really nice but I have a old roll with that already. firefly precision instrument is good too but I feel like I'd be using a different weapon than hung jury at that point 👍
shoot2loot/kinetic vs explosive payload is better, and stability and reload masterwork and arrowhead
I'm a destiny fanatic but it's crazy how some people really think too much about these weapons when all Bungie does is Nerf them or rework them.
yeah these will most likely get power crept but it's fun to get the shiny variants and use them while they're good. I play a ton of high end content/lowman stuff where the newest weapons usually shine and I like it to be as easy as possible 😂
completely understandable though 👍
I mean it’s like the entire design philosophy to keep anybody playing if nobody cared for the “ultimate god roll” weapons there wouldn’t really be any level of replay ability lol
I totally agree though, I remind myself often not to invest too much time because by DLC the new weapons are just going to be slightly better anyway. (But shiny)
Have you ever huntied shinies in Pokemon? You sound like you didn't. This is basically that.
That’s the point of the game tho. If you were satisfied with the gun for several years you wouldn’t see a point in using any other gun, however the design is so that eventually it will be replaced by a new gun some other season
So you never farm and use world drops...
Bungie need to give back to the community. Each player should get a FREE 777 Brave Tokens
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I give up on heal clip incandescent Luna's Howl. Since into the light dropped I've been going for it.
i finally got one yesterday. Been grinding to get it too. Good luck!
I know right? I attuned it for 2 weeks, and yesterday decrypted 51 chests. Finally got one with it, but overall only got one shiny out of 51!
I got two back to back yesterday finally after having it attuned for two weeks. Smallbore, stability mw, flared mag well, heal clip, incandescent. Worth it.
I have a shiny with Heal Clip + Incandescent or Magnificent Howl. It was a just a random drop since I didn’t attune it.
Since they upped the odds, my luck was insane, I got like a 50% shiny rate and I also got like 3 in row (almost 4)
I got one shiny out of 420 tokens.
13.22 : precision instrument with lucky pants is amazing
That max 25% damage buff is nice, but wardens law 4th times vorpal 😍😍🥰🥰🥰
I've gotten like 2 shinies on average from the actual activity. But the box gives nothing it feels like. Think I'm gonna hold my tokens for a few more days and see if bungie says anything just incase.
Same here, word for word lol
Something is definitely up because I haven't gotten a shiny out of the kast 100!
I got 3 shinies in a normal wave 50 run but none from turning in tokens
I feel like the more you play the less chance you get shinys, i didn't play that much at all and I got the god roll shiny edge Transit. Plus a few other decent shiny rolls.
Turned in 30 today and got 5 shinies so I'm pretty happy, got the blast furnace I wanted with trmors + frenzy/firefly! But still no heal clip + incandescent luna,, it doesn't exist
I played a few matches of onslaught and got 3 shinies back to back. I guess I'm just lucky
I also have been getting way more during actual onslaught compared to opening cases
Pretty sure on his hunter he didn’t have edge as the gun to get more drops
I cashed in over 800 tokens and recieved 3 shiny weapons. So in my opinion Bungie did not up the drop rate.
I did four full runs of 50 rounds and turned in 400 tokens, got one shiny. No way is it buffed!
You got rid of a shiny Edge Transit with Spike/Cascade/Explosive Light?!?!?! You are a mad man.
Oh, just saw your comment that you already have one. Thank goodness. Lol
Say there’s a 2-3% chance of getting a shiny (based on what I’ve seen online) even double isn’t enough to fix their drop rate
It was false Advertising by bungie.i turned in 580 trophies and zero shiny and still haven't seen a heal clip/incandescent Lunas
Wow thats the first time ive seen rewind and killing tally on a hammer out of 80 or so hammer drops
just got the shiny edge transit god roll. hopefully the nerf wont b too bad been grindin for awhile now
Idk what you guys are going through ive gotten 8 shiny edge transits already (they were all pretty mid though)
Implosion rounds is better for mountain top as well as blast radius is the worst masterwork you can get to the point of if you level it you’re making it worse
I spent a couple hundred tokens and got 1 single shiney… I also spent a ton of time in legend onslaught last night without a single shiney drop. So either I’m insanely unlucky or the buff wasn’t as big as they claimed. It’s BS
Cascade Explosive was actually good....
I have a really good shiny roll with that already, there's a lot of good rolls I dismantled because I already have similar or better rolls in the vault from prior runs. Trust me I know lol
@@keegab Yeah I thought so haha
@@Kizzster I appreciate you saying something though. Probably should've put a disclaimer at the beginning of the video 😂
I hate how you can’t see full stats without going into a weapon now. There is a bottom row of hidden stats on all the rolls now.
I got 4 shiny drops in 1 playthrough of normal onslaught and 1 shiny handing in 50 tokens last night.
Since bungie said they buffed the drops for 2 weeks now till the moment am writting this comment i got only 2 shiny weapons . My rng is awful.
It is not you. I did 550 and got 0 shinnies.. I did get 7 IDENTICAL HAMMERHEAD but was attuned to Lunas and have 2 5/5 of that gun... They lied to us, again.. No way it is buffed 2x.. NO WAY! I am so tired of Bungie again, they feel like they are falling back into the same bad practices that got them in trouble. Makes no sense.. Trust me your RnG is not even real RnG with Bungies rounding system. 2x to them is likely rounded up from 1.02x... I am not even sure I am joking..
@@LastNameInTown i really have no idea what is going on it been really for 4 weeks am only going after edge transet and the drop is awful .. if it is not buffed they should tell us instead of grinding the whole week for nothing i feel i got burnt out
Ii definitely doesn't feel buffed to me. I haven't gotten a single shiny redeeming tokens
1 sword for me smfh😊
The chest is the worst way to get shinies just farm legend
35 chests, 3 shiny and 2 from onslaughts. One was my focus
Got the Shiny edge 7/5 as a random drop normal mode wave 10
I spent 600 and got about 10 shiny. 3 of the shiny all had identical perks. Only 1 shiny worth keeping.
Decon getting nerfed from regenerating ammo out of thin air to reloading from reserves
Bungie don’t like the ammo uptime
That's right, thank you 👍
no they did not buff shiny drops cuz i havent got any since they "improve" drop rate
I got 1 outta 17 pulls, seems like the moment you get one the chance to get another drops significantly
i've literally gotten 3 shinys man. i've opened about 100 and done well enough onslaughts to have 1000 tokens
If the rate is improved it’s not showing, thank you for your service. 😢
I finally got my shiny edg(ing)e transit with envious bait and switch, maybe bungie did buff the shiny rate
Holy Yakuza
Bungie let D1 Master Rahool handle the drops, and he wanted to remind you that blue engrams are goood LOL
not even gonna lie bro, i got my shiny roll for edge transit on like 3rd roll
just dunked 220 tokens and didnt get a single shiny..... im calling bullshit on the "shiny buff"
I got a shiny 5 out of 5 edge Iwill trade you for you mountain top the only ALH mountain top I can get to drop is vorpal I will literally take ALH + recombo doesnt even have to Hard launch implosion/spike 4 weeks & over 4000 trophies & nothing. I would even take an ALH + frenzy..
I'm missing the exact same rolls as you lol I turned 600 tockets 3 shinies and all 3 where the worst rolls of the guns I don't need.
Barely, bungie screwed us over again
I handed in 700. Got three in the first 10, all bollox rolls, then only 2 more.
😂 man Bungie needs to be called out on theyre garbage 🗑️
They lie mate. 💯 To get people on playing.. They're full of shit.. Definitely lie to us.. They need calling out you're so right..
You could say you got Bait and Switched with those rolls…
🥲
I've gotten my 35th Shiney MT in the last 6+ weeks of farming it and I have NOT gotten Auto/Recomb yet.
I do have my Shiney Auto/Vorpal that's a perfect 5/5 though.
It took me loads of tokens to get just the one..
@paulconway9757 got my 36th drop thos morning. Still no Auto/recomb.
I’ve gotten more after the maintenance they did today
Yesterday i got very lucky 3 shinys Out of 10 😮
I got 2 shiny Luna’s howl at the same time last night
spent legit 600 tokens and got a total of 1 shiny drop. and guess what ? it was a none focused drop and to top of of the turd sundae bungie served up it was an ass role lunas howl.
I opened 50 chests yesterday and only got 2 shinys
You got games on you phone?
I got 4 shinies from one regular wave 50😎😎😎
hey man, what was your method to get all those trophies? like which version on onslaught etc.
Legend 50 waves on midtown with at least one Orpheus Rig deadfall hunter and one Phoenix Protocol warlock. Average about 55min with a solid team but you can get under 50 if everyone is good enough 👍
Also make sure to pick up the daily bounties as they give you 2 trophies per bounty and they're easy to complete. Refreshable on each character too
Feel you bro got 6 or 7 from 62 attempts, thought it was like a 10% which is a silly buff, worse looking at your results, use to get n exotic within 5 attempts from 3 of Coin back in days, Bungie ide of RnG buffs always sucks eggs
That shiny Edge you showed at the beginning is a 7/9 match with the shitty one i also have lol WORST. ROLL. EVER.
how do u have so many tokens mine maxed out at 777
I let them overflow to the postmaster
This man is CRACKED wtf
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@@keegab 😭
Yeah 600 tokens 0 shiny but got 4 shiny playing the activity yesterday
Yeah pretty sure playing the game mode is where the buff has been applied and not turning in tokens. Idk tho 🤷♂️
I’ve seen people say they spent over 500 and get 7 and somehow I get 7 in 18 rolls
It's not fair 😔
I spent 600 and got 1 shiny
How tf u have so many cores ??
Idk but they need to go 😭
THEY LIED BRUH
you said it man, this game mode is fking shite
I got 1 in 8k trophies T^T
Yes. for me adleast, i spent 777 yesterday and got 16-17 shines which is pretty good, ive got another 1000 to use but i have all the shinys i want so im not in a rush
I was using the glitch that cheeseforever posted. Idk if that does something in spaghetti code but when i ran to reactivate then ran back i was seemingly getting shinys alot.
lol. Thats not even a glitch. Someone legit convinced him it is. I tested it a bunch with Lunas howl focus being as close as possible to the chest. It was still complete rng.
You just got lucky on the shinys
Nope! They didn't buff Sh_t!
Blast furnace is average? Not the brightest engram are you?
I'm talking about PvE for almost every single gun in this video, this is (for now) a PvE channel. And at this current moment in time, blast furnace in PvE is average.
Even then, messenger, no time to explain, and chattering bone are all better kinetics in that slot for PvP IMO. I just don't care for blast furnace when I still want better Edge transits, mountaintops, and lunas 🤷♂
I kept a PvE one to see how the changes are for TFS and will only keep a GOOD PvP blast furnace if I get it while focusing other stuff but that's it
If u think blast furnace is any good in pve ur probably a rank 4
I retract my statement as I realized you might've not been talking to me 😅. They are getting a 20% overall damage buff and an additional 15% damage buff to minors in The Final Shape which is why I'm keeping one to try out.
doesn’t look like it
Good rolls don't exist
No same shit for me
hard to get godroll, blast i never had even one kinetic frenzy even with shit perks, luna if there is cure i dont get reload and you need masterwork for reload, if there is enlightened i dont get armor pierce and you need it for taking down shields faster, have godroll deconstruct grenade that is so good this week but in 4 days delete
there ain’t seem to be no buff… lies again
Dude why do so many people bug on Desperate measures, did I miss the memo like that's a %50 damage buff compared to %15 like r u fuckin high bro, like yea, you gotta use ur abilities but your just playin the game as it's supposed to be played and WITH SUBSISTENCE ARE YOU SERIOUS BRO?! that's a great ass combo. fuckin "Recluse sucks" my ass
Desperate measures isn't bad at all but it isn't a 50% buff that's a huge stretch. It's 30% MAX. And yeah recluse is not that good in comparison to their counterparts in arc and solar. Anything with voltshot and ESPECIALLY incandescent beats any void smg and day of the week regardless of it synergizes well with the build or not.
Rolls for guns DO NOT MATTER in low end content. Anything is usable. Recluse isn't being used in high end content effectively unless you are building completely around the gun like using Gyrfalcons.
And in comparison to ALL of the other brave weapons? Yeah recluse is a bottom tier contender. 🤦♂️
First!!!!
Brain dead players caring about shiny drops.
18:14.5 this fool dismantals a heal clip desperate measures without hesitation, my god what is wrong with this community.
Check pinned comment buddy
Did you delete a Headseeker and RH roll on Blast Furnace? Why, good sir?
I like rapid hit but the only PvP blast furnace I want to keep is a headseeker kill clip at the current moment in time (check pinned comment)