Sony FX30 vs BMPCC 6K Pro - BEST BUDGET Cinema Camera 2023

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  • Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025

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  • @ZiroWatt
    @ZiroWatt 2 года назад +48

    I recently got an fx3 and researched the hell outta all these cameras before I chose. The given is this: ALL of these cameras look amazing and you can make top notch looking content from any of them. The deciding factors are in which features the cameras have to make your day easier, and the form factor. I do a lot of handheld and gimbal shots with fast movement, so I opted for a smaller camera with a good rolling shutter and auto focus. If you are cool with a hefty camera and only manual focus, the 6k pro is an absolute beast of a deal. Cant go wrong with either option though, both are baseline amazing

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 2 года назад +20

    I had a shoot yesterday, everything was going against us, time, lightning, sound, location. It is almost always like that for me. But then I pulled out a 1.4 23m lens, 4 audio (main, lower gain, wireless ) a couple of small tube Leds and I was set. No need for monopod. The FX30 is really a steal. A complete kit fits anywhere si you can carry everything with you

  • @adam_franklin
    @adam_franklin 2 года назад +12

    The internal nd’s were the big game changer for my work. I can use all my lenses and get the shots I need fast. Still cant be beat.

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +3

      Seriously! I wish every camera had them 👌

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 года назад

      On the other hand for social media I am not sure 180 rule is still as big a thing. Besides, since you have 120fps with audio. We are taking 1/240 shutters and 1/480 if you go with 1080 240fps.

  • @rxamusic
    @rxamusic 2 года назад +108

    The black magic is miles ahead. Braw and ProRes are way nicer to work with. When you film in 4K ProRes there is no crop. Once you add an external monitor to the fx30 you’re already at the size of the black magic that doesn’t require a monitor. And for professional work, I find that auto focus fails more often than not at getting the shot I want.

    • @dcfanforlife533
      @dcfanforlife533 2 года назад +14

      Not everyone needs a monitor on the sony, for RUclips level work sony is the way to go but in professional shoot black magic is the way.

    • @bearknightlive
      @bearknightlive 2 года назад +4

      I understand this only if you’re constantly working in big professional projects cause i know what you mean about the auto focus potentially failing on a certain shot. Well when you work on bigger professional projects i understand that a bigger rig where you’re in control of absolutely everything is crucial, but when you’re working on other content that isn’t supposed to look like a high budget movie then a compact camera like the fx30 will work 100% just fine.

    • @chriscoxdp
      @chriscoxdp 2 года назад +9

      @@bearknightlive if you work bigger professional sets, you’ll have an AC and have the budget to rent a more expensive cam.

    • @eurosoccerschoolsbloemfont5610
      @eurosoccerschoolsbloemfont5610 2 года назад

      Well said

    • @tuzuharurakutu
      @tuzuharurakutu Год назад +5

      @@dcfanforlife533 the video is talking about "cinema" cameras, so RUclips or content creation needs should not be factored in.

  • @luisfernandosoni
    @luisfernandosoni Год назад +10

    I feel like most RUclipsrs making this kind of comparison videos only shoot "run and gun", which frankly is cinematography in the same way shooting with a phone can be. Most serious work in the field is not run and gun. The definition of the craft is not. I feel like a there's an entire up and coming generation that is taught by you people that the most amazing thing about filmmaking (and gear) is actually not having to do it yourself. Maybe try something you actually enjoy.
    Autofocus is nice. Stabilized sensor is as well. But wow, I feel like this people would rather take an FX30 to a film set rather than an Arri Alexa because it's "easier". It feels nice like scrolling through TikToks before bed. You see, there's this thing about mastering a craft or an art form which is delayed gratification, it happens to musicians, painters and well, filmmakers. It builds mental fortitude and will, which strengthens the sense of being an "author" or a Director. It lets you analyze yourself, self critique your work and most importantly, it builds the ability to conduct the orchestra of microvariables that present to you at all times while executing this field of work.
    The normalizing of "not having enough time" to work on a shot is like... what else should you be doing? The matcha is getting cold, I get it, but, maybe actually perform what you're there to do. I guess this is true if you just do weddings or quick events, but hell, that's not even 1/4 of what you can do as a filmmaker, so a comparison like this without proper context is just irresponsible.

    • @lucapooka6694
      @lucapooka6694 2 месяца назад

      yeah im not reading all that

    • @justinpfeiffer2548
      @justinpfeiffer2548 Месяц назад

      Saying the definition of the craft is inherently not run and gun is a ridiculous claim. Cinematography is not the one specific style of production you deem “proper”. There is a ton of great examples of incredible cinematography shot very run and gun.

    • @andr101
      @andr101 22 дня назад

      Bruh

  • @pyalot
    @pyalot Год назад +9

    The audacity sony has to call something a cine camera that cant shoot raw is beyond me.

  • @inSurfersParadise
    @inSurfersParadise 6 месяцев назад +7

    I have a modded original 6K.
    It has the Tilta screen kit. So that iPhone sized rear mounted monitor is superb for low and overhead work. Added velcro so a cardboard hood fits onto the screen. A terabyte of on board SSD. Variable ND on the lens. Its a superb machine to shoot with hand held and nearly every shot is usable.
    You'll have to prize it out of my cold dead hand.

    • @june5646
      @june5646 12 дней назад

      How did you do it? Yourself?

    • @inSurfersParadise
      @inSurfersParadise 12 дней назад

      @@june5646 Second hand purchase. I hunted for one with the mod installed.

  • @sakhiwomthunzi
    @sakhiwomthunzi 2 года назад +62

    The 6K Pro is honestly a way better cinema camera in my opinion. I think you are right, the biggest thing to factor in here, is the content you shoot and your shooting style.
    I have the 4K with the metabones 0.67x as my B-cam and gimbal cam, my OG 6K is rigged for handheld work. This system works for me perfectly.
    I’ve also noticed that a lot of people talk about how they don’t like how you have to rig the pocket cameras and then go on to buy an FX3 and rig it up.

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 года назад +1

      I am really not sure that that is the case right now anymore. FF has spoiled everyone because it almost always looks great. But.. if you treated the FX30 just as if it was a Black Magic, I am really not sure who comes out on top. Unlike other Sony Sensors the FX30 has really sweet shadows and rich blacks. Did they tune this sensor vs the BM6K. I only have access to the BM4K. I can test it against the FX30

    • @BryanKeithPhoto
      @BryanKeithPhoto 2 года назад +13

      @@nyambe if by FF you mean full frame. It's completely overrated. We as a community need to stop associating great images with full frame.

    • @RobinParmar
      @RobinParmar 2 года назад +13

      @@BryanKeithPhoto Exactly. Super 35 has been used on hundreds of award-winning films from Hollywood and beyond. Full-frame is a photography standard that's only one way to approach video.

    • @boomboombaby9140
      @boomboombaby9140 2 года назад

      No auto focus

    • @takoflame4948
      @takoflame4948 2 года назад +1

      @@BryanKeithPhoto lol no. there's a difference especially when it comes to more pro work

  • @RuXTaR
    @RuXTaR 2 года назад +10

    Very good video. Keep in kind these are two different cameras for two different purposes.
    For those who say you have to add a monitor to the FX30, in most cases you'll have to add one to the BMPCC6K too.

  • @seebeforeyoubuy
    @seebeforeyoubuy Год назад +5

    4:15 You say the FX30 is better "out of the box" except ND filters, built in RAW, and XLR ports, and really a 5" monitor to actually see your shot compared to the tiny 3" flippy screen...

  • @jasonpbaxter
    @jasonpbaxter 11 месяцев назад +3

    For a new podcast with 4 cameras. Main camera, 2 focused cameras on two people and then a guest coach camera what do you recommend? Looking at the BMP G2 or Sony fx30. What will be easier for post production as well? Noticed the BMP do not record on anything higher than 1080p with hdmi.

    • @somethingbigger
      @somethingbigger 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Jason, I have the same question. What did you end up doing?

    • @TheGetUpPod
      @TheGetUpPod 3 месяца назад

      Fx30 with the the xlr handles you can just plug the mics into the camera and separate audio for editing later

  • @jordanb7144
    @jordanb7144 Год назад +10

    The fx30 autofocus and versatility is what grabs me. Bare bones you can film and be discreet in a run and gun situations. Plus easy to put it on a gimbal… but would be mighty nice if they
    would’ve thrown in an internal electronic ND filter.

  • @georgefromgreece4119
    @georgefromgreece4119 Год назад +1

    For short films (cinema) and musical videoclips in pretty low light conditions, at a high production pace, lots of action and camera travelling going on, my guess is you do recommend the FX, right?
    Top job, keep it up!

  • @AL3XFPV
    @AL3XFPV Год назад +2

    just a heads up, the audio sounds very high on the low end and distorts a little in my headphones making it alittle uncomfortable to listen, but im holding on 😅

  • @AdamGell
    @AdamGell 3 месяца назад +1

    Is the Blackmagic 4k still relative as an interview camera and a6700 filming at 24 p a good choice for run and gun?

  • @itscoleperkins
    @itscoleperkins 4 месяца назад +1

    As a Sony guy, I would love to have a Pocket 6k all rigged out for “big commercial sets.” But anytime I’m doing that level of work I’m renting, and if I’m renting, I’m getting something of a way higher caliber than the pocket 6k.

  • @RobertsIslandLivingAdventures
    @RobertsIslandLivingAdventures 2 года назад +5

    I have the fx3, miss the ND filters. But as for the menu, I program what I adjust normally in the fn menu. I’ve also found that auto focus is much better than my manual focus on the ronin gimbal.

  • @VideoVo-Tech
    @VideoVo-Tech 2 года назад +3

    @1:40 You can film in lower resolutions without cropping in on the sensor on the 6k.

  • @JeffBourke
    @JeffBourke 2 года назад +7

    But the AF in FX30 is so reliable when you need it! It’s kinda unbelievable.

  • @VyachRakitin-VRFilms
    @VyachRakitin-VRFilms Год назад +2

    hi, I'm just starting out and can't choose between fx30/bmpcc6k/Ursa mini 4.6k EF/Lumix s5iix,
    please tell me what is better to take, I don’t want to make a movie not youtube channel.....

    • @itsevoblitz
      @itsevoblitz 6 месяцев назад +2

      A6700 i bought it for both photos and videos

  • @bmefilms6879
    @bmefilms6879 2 года назад +13

    add a monitor, mount, hdmi cable and batteries to the fx30. no way you are shooting anything critical with this tiny screen!

  • @Burritosarebetterthantacos
    @Burritosarebetterthantacos 2 месяца назад

    I have the 6kpro and I’m selling because it’s chunky and there are times where rigging the much lighter camera would be nice. The one caveat is braw is amazing to edit.

  • @RodieOsc
    @RodieOsc Год назад +2

    BMPCC good for podcast and other controlled environments
    FX30 more outside shoots maybe run and gun for weddings and such

  • @serj112
    @serj112 2 года назад +7

    I think a fairer sharpness comparison would've been with the same exact lens. There are certainly ways to use the EF on the Sony.

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      That did cross my mind and I do have an adapter for EF lenses. But I chose to use native lenses and native lenses are designed for that camera mount and will most likely have the best possible image quality

    • @serj112
      @serj112 2 года назад +2

      @@BenGleasonMedia while native glass is important for autofocus performance, in terms of image quality, as long as the flange focal distance is correctly adapted (and really any quality adaptor will be built to a good tolerance), glassless adapters don't matter, as the lens is just forming an image on a sensor.

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 года назад

      But native lens ecosystem is the Sony's is a reality. Modern lens designs are stupid sharp. Even the cheap third party ones. Not sure EF lenses should be the reference anymore.

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 года назад

      @@serj112 Distance to the sensor is a huge factor in image quality. That is why you can have $400 very sharp lenses with mirrorless.

  • @jpyudhi_
    @jpyudhi_ 2 года назад +1

    Great explanation. keep up the good work bro

  • @AdudenamedKemp
    @AdudenamedKemp Год назад

    Thanks for this, was very helpful!

  • @boomboombaby9140
    @boomboombaby9140 2 года назад +37

    The auto focus of the fx30 makes it better, shooting music videos with the bmpcc 4k was a long process. The fx30 makes it easy almost magical to get such high quality footage with a monster auto focus.

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 года назад +6

      Night and day, the bm4k also needs a lot more light, has no IBIS, its harder to balance on a gimbal. Did you get the FX30?

    • @boomboombaby9140
      @boomboombaby9140 2 года назад +3

      @@nyambe yeah I had it preordered before it’s release date

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 года назад +1

      @@boomboombaby9140 Just like me, I was surprised to receive it very fast! been loving it

  • @RealWorldReview
    @RealWorldReview 2 года назад +2

    Trying to decide to switch/sell my 6K Pro only because of weight and lack of sensor stabilization. Auto focus is whatever, though would be terrible for vlogging (but good luck doing that with heavy glass and a rig on the 6k pro lol)

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 года назад

      that is what Sony wants

    • @d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212
      @d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212 2 года назад

      6k pro is not designed for blogging so if that's what someone needs then it should never have been a consideration.

    • @nyambe
      @nyambe 2 года назад +1

      ​@@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212 Corporate jobs are what they are. The easier is to capture the content the better for you and your client. These days people are blogging with their iPhones and GoPro 11 and are getting impressive stabilization and dynamic range. Don't knock it.

    • @Burritosarebetterthantacos
      @Burritosarebetterthantacos 2 месяца назад

      Stabilization😂

  • @XxmattitudexX
    @XxmattitudexX 2 года назад +1

    how good is the gyro stabilization on the sony ?

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      Its not bad at all, for sure not as good as like the A7IV or any of the Panasonic cameras! but still pretty good

  • @theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439
    @theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 2 года назад +5

    Too much bass in your audio my friend.. its really booming.

  • @offic.dzanjo3048
    @offic.dzanjo3048 2 года назад +1

    And 3:00 if its not the same lens then then i't can't be compared. The fx30 is sharper.. as it should be, it may be in the cine line but sharpening can't be completely disabled.
    From someone who also uses both cameras, but knows if you wanna compare sharpness you use the same glass.....

  • @RewDowns
    @RewDowns 2 месяца назад

    Get both!

  • @cedarandsound
    @cedarandsound Год назад

    There's a video on youtube that shows you how to use an Iphone with Lidar detector to do lidar-based autofocus. If you have an iphone 12 or later, you could mount it to the camera and use the lidar to do instant autofocus.

  • @FromAverageToWarrior
    @FromAverageToWarrior Год назад

    Great video!

  • @Ryezn5057
    @Ryezn5057 2 года назад

    What's the led panel you've got behind you?

  • @luxurybuzz3681
    @luxurybuzz3681 2 года назад +2

    What about the Sigma FP?
    It's a portable Cinema Camera that does 4K Cinema DNG RAW

    • @alxpalumbo
      @alxpalumbo 2 года назад

      The most slept on camera of the last few years

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      Tbh I have not tried that camera! But I’ve always been curious about it 👀

    • @agenericaccount3935
      @agenericaccount3935 2 года назад

      Mr. Undone has a video about why that's a big no

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      🙌

    • @luxurybuzz3681
      @luxurybuzz3681 2 года назад

      @@agenericaccount3935 I'll check it out. Thanks

  • @zackdoes3022
    @zackdoes3022 2 года назад +1

    What camera would you suggest for podcasting. I’m wanting a nice camera. Looking at similar prices to these cameras

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +2

      I would suggest getting the Bmpcc4k or 6k and then the Blackmagic atem mini if you are going to have multiple cameras. Then you’ll be able to do camera switching!

    • @jasonpbaxter
      @jasonpbaxter 11 месяцев назад

      but you can only record at 1080p with the atem and a BMP..?@@BenGleasonMedia

  • @Filmmakers_N
    @Filmmakers_N 2 года назад

    hello, where did you buy the fx30?

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +1

      I bought it on B&H but you can also get it on Amazon! Links in bio

    • @Filmmakers_N
      @Filmmakers_N 2 года назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia Please tell me, is the Ukrainian language available?fx30

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +1

      Im not sure, but I would be surprised if they didnt

    • @Filmmakers_N
      @Filmmakers_N 2 года назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia how do you charge the fx30 battery? buy a separate charger?

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +1

      A separate charger Is great, but you can also use the USB-C port on the FX30 with the battery in it.

  • @archytys
    @archytys 2 года назад +1

    Hi, thanks for sharing this with us, it's very qualitative! I'd like to know what do you think about the Panasonic cameras (S5/S1/S1H) as they're full frame cameras and can shoot up to 6K ProRes Raw or Braw, and are also cheaper (the S5 is around 2000$ with a monitor for shooting raw). Can an S5 be good enough for more professional projects or Sony and Blackmagic are more appropriate for this?

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      Any of the Panasonic cameras would be a GREAT option for mor professional work, especially with that external recorder! Its going to have different color science and Sony will have the best autofocus capabilities but if that doesn’t matter to you then go for the Panasonics 👍👍

  • @tuzuharurakutu
    @tuzuharurakutu Год назад +5

    Talking about autofocus when comparing Cinema cameras is a little meh don't you think? Same for the battery life. You would rig any camera the minute you want to work on any 'cinema' level project. The FX30 would need rigging too, even that top handle counts as rigging, and we all know how inconvenient it is. And you conviniently left off the image quality, dynamic range comparison between the two. Same for the codecs, (12 bit RAW capabilities, ProRes,... ) which are way better on the BMPCC, I'm not even going to start with the exposure tools, the I/O, shutter angle, audio preamps. The FX30 is convenient, and that might be enough. Unfortunately autofocus is more important to most RUclipsrs than real cinema grade image quality, which the FX30 (I own one) is NOT capable of producing compared to any BMPCC camera, not even the micro 4/3 4k one.

    • @somethingbigger
      @somethingbigger 6 месяцев назад

      Do you think BMPCC is better for Podcasting? I own FX30, and I am thinking of switching to BMPCC. Due to the possibility of recording to an SSD card (saving a lot of time), it is possible to use Atem Mini and control all the cameras. But my concern is with the size of the files, I think they are huge compared to FX30. What are your thoughts?

  • @rajeshchoubey435
    @rajeshchoubey435 2 года назад

    Sir which camera should I purchase for film making like feature film and music video album ?

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      From the choices in this video ID probably choose the 6K Pro 👍👍

  • @AveryDalessandro
    @AveryDalessandro 2 года назад +7

    The 6K Pro is superior, but without auto focus, these are two different cameras depending on time. Everything about BM camera is time consuming.

  • @Michaelzurek
    @Michaelzurek 2 года назад +4

    I am not saying the FX30 is bad, however, they call it cinema camera and they don’t even give you DCI. In my work I use DCI about 18 out of 20 times. If on top of that you are not even using native lenses that give you AF, there is absolutely no reason to go Sony if you already have the 6K Pro. Just my opinion though. Fx6 and FX9 give you DCI, so I really don’t get why the FX3 and FX30 don’t

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +4

      I’ve questioned that aswell! DCI was my go to with the Bmpcc 4K

    • @Michaelzurek
      @Michaelzurek 2 года назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia i would really like to know why they wouldn’t give you this. Just doesn’t make sense and is obviously a dealbreaker for me. Other than that, good video btw. I forgot to mention that 😉

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +1

      Hey thanks man! 🙌 I honestly think they could put it in an update, as it would theoretically be a software thing. But yeah, I would also like to know why they didn’t do that! 🤷‍♂️

    • @AlejandroGonzalez-nx7gj
      @AlejandroGonzalez-nx7gj Год назад +4

      now it has dci with the new firmware bro

    • @Michaelzurek
      @Michaelzurek Год назад

      @@AlejandroGonzalez-nx7gj yes indeed ! This is a really good start in the right direction. I mean, it would be nice if it was real dci and not just 4K cropped at the top and bottom, but it is nice they implemented this. I am still between the 6k pro and the fx30. I may just wait a few more months and see what the future brings.

  • @VIJAYOFFICIAL-pk6yk
    @VIJAYOFFICIAL-pk6yk Год назад

    Which cam is best for film making fx30 or BMPCC 6k pro or Sony a7RV or Sony a7iv ? Can you help me on this brother 😅

    • @RobiulIslam-fo2vg
      @RobiulIslam-fo2vg 9 месяцев назад

      A7iv is better you can do lots of thing with this camera.
      if i have budget i will go with A7iv.
      7k into 4k with 60fps.
      And Mechanical Shutter.
      Just totally a Crispy chicken.🔥

    • @lacalledelhorror5455
      @lacalledelhorror5455 Месяц назад

      6K of course

  • @matthewkunz3887
    @matthewkunz3887 2 года назад +1

    I am going to get you to 1K subs! You deserve it!

    • @matthewkunz3887
      @matthewkunz3887 2 года назад

      DONE! 1001 subs!

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      BRO! You did it!! Thank you so so much! 🙏🙏

    • @andrew_nayes
      @andrew_nayes Год назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia what!? you only had 1k 6months ago, and now you have almost 15k! I've never seen such growth! Congratulations!

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  Год назад

      It’s been amazing and I couldn’t be more excited! Thank you!! 🙌🙌

  • @Teledyski_XDVISIONS
    @Teledyski_XDVISIONS Год назад

    I use NPF 970 battery by Sony and a cable for 12V charging and it last more than 2 hours.

  • @Column1313
    @Column1313 2 года назад

    Hey love the film wall art. where are they from?

  • @whyjaywonders
    @whyjaywonders 9 месяцев назад

    Really there is no competition for a film maker for 6K Pro: all built in professional monitor & XLR & ND & Pro level zebra, colors, histogram & internal raw . Carry couple of extra batteries you have nothing to complain about. Auto focus is a thing but not very very important for film/cinema guys (because the title of the video mentions Cinema Camera)

  • @bf4fr3ak27
    @bf4fr3ak27 2 года назад +4

    There's no additional crop for 4K on the 6K pro -- you can select to use the entire 6K sensor. Lets not forget there's Apple ProRes for the 6K pro. That is a massive selling point that many cameras do not offer. Also -- the 6K Pro can use CFAST instead of USB-C for storage if someone wanted to throw the camera on a gimbal without having to worry about an externally mounted SSD.

    • @GameUnkasa
      @GameUnkasa Год назад

      How can you select the entire sensor for 4k? I've never seen that on my 6K Pro, only on the URSA Mini Pro

    • @nq4845
      @nq4845 Год назад

      @@GameUnkasa Prores UHD, next page, sensor area 6K.

    • @GameUnkasa
      @GameUnkasa Год назад

      @@nq4845 ahh okay, I never use ProRes .

  • @ТарасГалишко-х9ц

    Blackmagic 6K Pro - amazing!!!

  • @ppulkkinen5308
    @ppulkkinen5308 2 года назад +4

    I have both A74 and 6K Pro, and would love to get rid of 6K Pro and EF lensens. Just cannot get as good color from Sony, especially if WB is slighly off. Also like 6K Pro's bright/large screen and internal ND filters.

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      Those are definitely factors to consider if switching! I thought all those same things!

    • @jarradmorrissey7049
      @jarradmorrissey7049 2 года назад +3

      Same exact situation here.. I want to switch to Sony but the small screen kills me from being spoiled with the BM. And I still can’t get the color balance on my a7iv right.. skin has a pink or soft orange hue every time.

  • @GabrielMacho
    @GabrielMacho 2 года назад +12

    For vlogging and RUclips content the FX30 is the way to go, for profesional work and documentary BMPCC 4K is the correct choice.

    • @NARRASSAFilmes
      @NARRASSAFilmes Год назад +3

      BMPCC is not for documentary. Fx30 is the best for it purpose.

  • @TheFalaah
    @TheFalaah 2 года назад +5

    I am honestly so sick of hearing all the whinning from the small-handed, I want everything to be easy and convenient type of photographers and videographers! Geeez is there any skill left in these crafts anymore? Is tech the new creativity? Are you seriously claiming that a T5 SSD is too bulky to keep up with? I would lose an SD card, way before I would ever misplace an SSD! I have the sony and the BMPCC lines and I completely understand that autofocus is not a cinema camera thing. Turn the fricking Dial/ring and obtain the proper fucus!
    Simply put if the cameras are doing all of the work what are you there for? What make you so unique? The way you point the camera? because it seems as if that's all some of you are doing.
    Lastly, no I am not the best cinematographer or photographer but I am willing to sharpen my craft through hard work with a decent-sized camera made for men with normal-sized hands that can lift heavy objects like a 7 lbs camera rig. Look at me complaining about the people that are complaining! LMAO

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      I totally get what ur saying man! I did complain a lot about convenience, let’s be real 😂 I did not phrase the T5 comment the way I intended. I meant that its bigger than an SD card. My bad.
      I LOVE having big cinema rigs so much! I’ve used them for almost a decade and still use them on a daily basis. As I probably should have worded, because I do more social media stuff now, auto focus and a lightweight portable Sony camera is better for the fast paced environment of social media content creation. And some of my favorite cameras to use are old film cameras that make you do all the work, i do see all these fancy cameras making us lose sight of the art behind the camera.
      Anyway, thanks for watching 🥲

    • @jdc2126
      @jdc2126 Год назад

      Let’s be real, it’s now 2023 we have touch focus and the most reliable autofocus technology why would you still insist on pulling focus and constantly worry if your footage are oof.

    • @TheFalaah
      @TheFalaah Год назад

      @@jdc2126 that’s like asking why paint if you can just tell AI what you want and it will create it. It’s called a craft because you have to start from bothering and craft build/ structure/ sharpen your way to something great. What are you willing to work for sir?

    • @jdc2126
      @jdc2126 Год назад +1

      @@TheFalaah I get it, it’s been a standard set by Hollywood, but as technology gets more advanced, it become obvious, we now have a choice. if you’re not filming a high budget film, why bother with hiring a focus puller or carrying 100lbs worth of equipments? There are those of us that prefer right of the box cinema camera and those of us who carry tons of equipments and in the end the one carrying less equipments results in just as good as the one who broke their back. Those are the people that hates auto focus, stabilizers etc. because hey label themselves as a real filmmakers, give me a break! I mean no one is stopping you from what you prefer. Like the saying goes “ Work smarter not harder”

    • @steve341
      @steve341 9 месяцев назад

      @@TheFalaah that's a silly comparison. Someone who worked with film could say the same about you. You now have digi cards, and pretty much unlimited takes, where as before you had to really think and plan every shot as film stock was expensive and hard to use. So that person would say you are being 'lazy' and not a real filmmaker. These comparisons sound snobby. I filmed a doc for tv before, I aint the best, at all, I am ave at best, but the camera was hard to use. Did things being harder 'perfect my craft?" no. It just made things more stressful and took time from things like the story. Both are good cameras, I have a BM but people here acting like they some high end directors or cine guys is hilarious. BM takes time, and you need everything controlled. It is a very good cam. So is the sony fx30. Ultimately, starting out, and pretty sure 99% people here, you dont have the budget or you will never get to that level. So the camera, actually doesn't really matter that much, it does to a degree. Has to look good, but doesnt need to look amazing, since if anything else is lacking, guess what, it wont be good overall. Who cares if your image is good, but the whole thing sucks? Same thing, if amazing story, but image sucks, it is distracting. It's balance. But most ppl here acting all snobby and looking down at others, when in reality they probably have not done much.

  • @qbalharun
    @qbalharun 2 года назад

    What rode model mic do u using?

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      Its a rode NTG5 and I’ve got it plugged into my new Rodcaster Pro II 👌 Thats probs why the audio is a little too loud, im still figuring out how to use that thing 😂

    • @qbalharun
      @qbalharun 2 года назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia I see, that’s why looks familiar for me. Sorry for asking, do you ever have an issue with this mic? I mean something like buzzing because of the XLR cable? Just wonder because I have change my cable more than 5 times and yet still have buzzing issue. Maybe u can share what type of XLR cable do u use? 😁

  • @VVIPWORLDUSA
    @VVIPWORLDUSA 2 года назад +5

    BMPCC6K is still the KING

  • @CC.cinematics
    @CC.cinematics 2 года назад

    Can you please do some colour graded footage comparison for these

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +2

      I would love to! I’ll see what I can pull together!

  • @aaronreyperey5587
    @aaronreyperey5587 2 года назад +1

    I love your videos! And the effort you put into it!
    Keep on making awesome and informative videos brother!. This channel will be realbig soon! Manifest!
    Here before #1000 ❤️‍🔥

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      Thank You So MUCH! 😊 That is seriously so amazing to hear!

    • @millionaire9122
      @millionaire9122 2 года назад

      Many people buying the FX30 are vloggers, RUclipsrs and hobbyists & wedding videographers who are very comfortable working on that tiny screen.

  • @captainplexx467
    @captainplexx467 Год назад +1

    Think everyone is missing the point of the video being the 'Best
    budget CINEMA Camera', in terms of cinema the BM is the winner by 100 miles...but in terms of simple content creation the FX30 wins any day

  • @longviolinfilms
    @longviolinfilms Год назад +1

    There's a $1000 difference in price. Not much comparison when one camera costs 60% more.

  • @denzelvanlent7031
    @denzelvanlent7031 2 года назад +1

    Imo get a fx30 to pair with my bm haha

  • @LukeLSD79
    @LukeLSD79 Год назад

    The video cover says “old”. The bmpcc 6k pro is old as a Lamborghini diablo against a “new” Toyota yaris like the fx30…I’ve rent both several times. No match.

  • @RandomMotoThings
    @RandomMotoThings 2 года назад +2

    6k pro only crops in 4k if you shoot braw. Pro res doesn’t

  • @RobinParmar
    @RobinParmar 2 года назад +1

    I gave up on the comparison when you said that it was hard to keep track of SSD cards. Seriously? Buy yourself a label gun. You don't even mention the CFAST option which give you high speed internal storage without the need to rig up an SSD. Blackmagic gives you multiple storage options that Sony doesn't.
    Your size comparison is also off. Sony systems have a tiny body but their lenses are huge and too expensive. The operating system on Blackmagic is the best in the industry. The large tilt screen means you don't need to spend more for an external monitor. There's built-in ND. And you have an inexpensive EVF option. Plus full BRAW recording for the best footage possible.
    If continuous autofocus is your only priority then sure, don't use Blackmagic. But for everything else...

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

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    • @ndelacru
      @ndelacru 2 года назад

      ben response is ..... da fuck you said again?

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      😂😂😂

  • @remka2000
    @remka2000 2 месяца назад

    I love the FX3 but hate its clumsy UI with a passion. It feels like it's designed by Japanese engineers who have zero idea of how people actually use cameras. The Blackmagic UI on the other side is simple, without clutter, with all the needed functions one or two taps away.

  • @benonyoutube
    @benonyoutube Месяц назад

    PLEASE don't hold that mic. Assuming it's an NTG, the proximity effect makes it incredibly difficult to listen to on studio monitors/any speakers with good bass replication. It's designed to have SOME air between your source and the capsule or it sounds like you are talking inside my head through a sub. Good video aside from that. Cheers.

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  Месяц назад +1

      Will do. Sorry man, on top of that, this video I accidentally pushed the gain of the video way to much in post and didn’t notice until after the video was uploaded. Hasn’t happened since though 🙏

    • @benonyoutube
      @benonyoutube Месяц назад

      @ good shit brother. Keep up the great videos! 🤌

  • @jacksp8de
    @jacksp8de Год назад

    I have a Blackmagic 6K OG and love it but I want to get an a7iv or fx30 as a second camera. I don’t have a stills camera but want to get into more photography BUT I also want a b camera that can run without overheating as I’ll be streaming as well so the fx30 seems to be a good b cam to my pocket. But a7iv has full frame. I need to made a decision already im driving my wife crazy lol😢😅

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  Год назад +1

      😂 I totally get it dood! Its a hard decision I get it, that’s why I got both lol! But in my opinion, I think the A7IV is the way to go! The best of both worlds!

    • @jacksp8de
      @jacksp8de Год назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia I think you might be right with the a74. Thanks for the reply man

    • @jacksp8de
      @jacksp8de Год назад

      @Jerimiah Cook: My Journey I almost did but one of my clients uses an A7iv so I Just got one as well. I also like the photo capabilities more, and I already have a dedicated cinema camera. Black magic is better than both as far as image quality imo

    • @jacksp8de
      @jacksp8de Год назад

      @Jerimiah Cook Wow that’s an interesting switch up. I have that same lens and the original blackmagic. I may sell it for the pro though

    • @jacksp8de
      @jacksp8de Год назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia Update I got the A7iv and love it! I rented the fx30 and it was great but I never had a full frame camera and wanted to take photos too

  • @blender_wiki
    @blender_wiki 2 года назад +1

    They are not in same market target, strange idea comparing this 2 cameras.🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

  • @BrunoRibeiro-np8fc
    @BrunoRibeiro-np8fc Год назад +1

    Prefiro a BlackMagic, a qualidade de imagem me agrada mais.

  • @cameragod1
    @cameragod1 2 года назад +2

    Dude put your mic on a stand... the over modulation is hurting my ears :)

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +1

      Sorry bruv

    • @cameragod1
      @cameragod1 2 года назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia No worries, I do want to hear what you are saying :)

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +1

      Thanks man! I’ll throw it on a stand for ya 👌

  • @zurabdzhidzhilava7161
    @zurabdzhidzhilava7161 2 года назад

    Canon c70 or R5 maybe?

  • @MonstroInLA
    @MonstroInLA 2 года назад +2

    Sigma fp 12 bit raw 4K for 1500

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад +1

      Not a bad option either

    • @MonstroInLA
      @MonstroInLA 2 года назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia use it as my bcam for the komodo, was looking at the bm but idk what it is just not sold on it the only issue with the fp is the color grading learning curve

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  2 года назад

      I totally get that, it is a little bit of a learning curve, grading blackmagic raw. It took me about six months to really get used to it but once I did, it was totally worth the learning curve in my opinion. (But I am a colorist at heart) But, if you’re just looking for a B-Cam, I think that the Sigma is a great option.

    • @MonstroInLA
      @MonstroInLA 2 года назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia yeah I love color grading as well that’s why I got the fp the latitude it gives you is crazy for the price.

  • @ОлексійШликов
    @ОлексійШликов Год назад

    If you need to shoot movies, the BMPCC6K pro is better than the FX6 and can be compared to the FX9. But if you need to shoot a blog and you don't know how to shoot without autofocus, you can buy any Sony camera.

  • @HYUGE
    @HYUGE 4 месяца назад

    Seriously??? U gonna comparison Blackmagic with sony canon and nikon brands now??? You cannot beat blackmagic at the same price range...period....BMPCC made the history already

  • @marquism1799
    @marquism1799 2 года назад +5

    BRAW and BM Gen 5 color science is so damn nice though. Sony's color science is still a little off in terms of color grading for me, but no matter what, you're going to get an amazing image from either camera. This truly is the golden age of filmmaking where there's so many AMAZING cameras from any company out there.

  • @ConsecratedFilm
    @ConsecratedFilm Год назад

    Sony - Lighter, Auto focus, way better battery, smaller, ready out the box, image stabilized, adjustable monitor, 10bit codec, external pro res & pro res RAW w/ Atomos Ninja V/V+ BUT RAW CROPS 😭, very small screen (coming from bm cams), does not take SSDs, cfast cards are EXPENSIVE
    BMPCC4K/6K - Better image quality, better colour science, internal 12bit codec, internal RAW codec, anamorphic desqueeze monitoring AND BAKED IN, comes with da vinci studio (new), false colour, BMPCC4K is CHEAP used, mini xlr ports for audio, takes SSDs, bigger/heavier body, bigger screen, fixed screen 😭, battery sucks nuggets, needs a cage (imo)
    BMPCC work arounds - rig your camera out, more weight = less shakes, get an external monitor, buy more batteries (they're fairly "cheap"), learn manual focus (auto focus usually isn't used in professional cinematography)
    For me personally I want the best image quality justifiable. I don't mind working a tiny bit harder to get a better image that can't be replicated in post. Black Magic has something that can't be replicated in post, sorry not sorry lol! You can run and gun with BMPCC as well it just takes a little more effort and a little more time. Every camera brand is so good now, almost any other camera will get you 85% of the way there, but once you reach that 85% the last 15% becomes 100% of what your chasing. And if you want it you won't be able to get it in another camera. So if you do any kind of cinematography go BM but if you don't do any cinematography or aren't looking for the best image quality/most filmic look then Sony all the way. Your life will be easier fs! Hope this helped, congrats on reaching the end, cheers x

    • @hellotoddsky
      @hellotoddsky Год назад +1

      Very good points here. My first camera was a GH5 and then moved on to the GH6. The limitations of these two cameras being almost unusable in low light and useless AF. But it's exactly these two limitations which made me into a better filmmaker. I had to learn a lot about lighting techniques and how to pull focus. Most of my filmmaker friends have been shooting on Sony's and Canon's since day one and lack knowledge in both these areas. No matter how good of a filmmaker you might be, if you get booked on a professional set and you tell them you don't use manual focus because running the camera on Auto is how you film stuff, you won't make it on the final roster.

  • @Dbj5555555
    @Dbj5555555 2 года назад

    If you’re going there why not just use your iPhone? With built in lenses it’s better based on what you said matters to you.

  • @saiyan_princestudios9790
    @saiyan_princestudios9790 2 года назад +1

    And the correct answer is fujifilm xh2 or xh2S.

  • @MrKubalaa
    @MrKubalaa 2 года назад

    Downsampling not oversampling

  • @kemarbell
    @kemarbell 2 года назад

    So basically you are tell us to buy the sony. SMH😒 but your not telling us witch to buy. Then what's the point of the video 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Shuttterbugg
    @Shuttterbugg 11 месяцев назад +1

    Dude the bmpcc4k is better than the fx 30 period who cares about autofocus

  • @andersistbesser
    @andersistbesser Год назад

    I would get an panasonic gh6 5.7 k 60, no crop in 4k120 and much better image quality than sony in 4k120 t. Fx30 is like a normal kamera minus the evf and the foto capabilities. It clearly is not a cinema camery. Gh6 is best of both worlds.

  • @dukebozikowski3801
    @dukebozikowski3801 2 года назад +1

    If you want internal NDs and willing to give up IBIS and AF get the FX30
    If you want an easier to use camera without IBIS or AF but has internal NDs get the P6K

  • @coin777
    @coin777 Год назад +1

    Your audio is over compressed and has to much lo end

  • @4kHK
    @4kHK 2 года назад

    no, you dont need to crop in 4k with prores

  • @johnclay7644
    @johnclay7644 2 года назад +1

    good 10min review.

  • @danodonnell9325
    @danodonnell9325 Месяц назад

    Too bad the audio on this bideo is so bad!

  • @moisie13
    @moisie13 2 года назад

    6k Pro A and Sigma FP as a B every time before Sony. Made in Thailand Sony feels cheap, one look at that screen and menu and I'm out. And most important - color, my god what are we even talking about...

  • @ZEUS
    @ZEUS Год назад

    And why we need the Sony?

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  Год назад

      Never said you did! 👌

    • @ZEUS
      @ZEUS Год назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia I never said you did 😂

  • @AMomentInTimeProductions
    @AMomentInTimeProductions 2 года назад +1

    also you have to take into account, that your probably using 2 different brand lenses as well the One you used for the BM 6k Pro probably had a sharper lens, not 100% sure but you have to make sure you take that into account..
    Otherwise the test is no good.. if the lens on the Sony Can't out perform the one you used in the BM then the test is really not accurate as far as the CAMERA's Sharpness...
    I have the FX30 and i have no problem with sharpness at all i even have a Sharpness video test posted...
    It works for me i love my FX30 and also i have had it on a gimbal and moved around my subjects i mean quite fast in and out and panning and the FX30 never lost focus ever.. it's amazing..
    sharpness test.. Using the 18-105 F4 G Lens
    ruclips.net/video/8jFJ2tYKacA/видео.html

    • @boomboombaby9140
      @boomboombaby9140 2 года назад

      I like my footage not to sharp like true cinema it gives a 3d ish texture to it too sharp makes it flat with a compressed cell phone look .

  • @ThySpaceGuy
    @ThySpaceGuy 4 месяца назад

    Blackmagic looks better

  • @mithunmaddy406
    @mithunmaddy406 Год назад

    Fx30 good battery life while shooting 4k what a joke......😂
    It's almost the same with both of them
    RUclipsrs always goes with the crowd

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  Год назад

      Prove it! You won’t 🤌

    • @mithunmaddy406
      @mithunmaddy406 Год назад

      @@BenGleasonMedia I have owned both of them I recently bought fx30 and the default fz 100 is working for 45 mins tops in dci 4k and the same with bmpcc now that "they use npf570 which will last the same 45 mins in 6k braw.
      And the only place fx30 stands out is image stabilization which is way better that bmpcc gyro
      There is no need for a prof as if we both are going to file lawsuits on the companies

    • @BenGleasonMedia
      @BenGleasonMedia  Год назад

      🤝

  • @mallorythomas4889
    @mallorythomas4889 2 года назад

    😎😎😎

  • @vinciandres
    @vinciandres 2 года назад

    O don't like Big cinema rigs

  • @tj_p979
    @tj_p979 2 месяца назад

    Seriously?!! You comparing FX30 to BMCC 6k pro? Fx30 is a toy 🤦‍♂️, at least compare fx3 that is a real camera not fx30 the worst from Sony

  • @gong9901
    @gong9901 2 года назад

    Downsampled**

  • @tristanclovis4037
    @tristanclovis4037 9 месяцев назад

    Fx30 not a real cinema camera