That is a pretty serious endorsement. I have been waiting for years for this scope for my M1A. I love all my Primary Arms Optics. Robski from the AKOU 4774 got me started with PA. "Goat Rescue Team" Veteran. This will be my 3rd PA scope. I do not own more than one of any other scope.
I have the same scope but with the ACSS EOS 308 reticle. Everything is great. But the weak points are: - Cheap glass... distorted at edges & unforgiving eye box at high magnification - Mushy turrets, no zero stop - My vertical turret tracks at .095 mil per click (5% low) But other than these relatively minor shortcomings that are somewhat expected for such a dirt cheap optic... it really is quite good on a budget... the bdc reticle is sweet and the turrets track well enough to be totally functional. I giggle every time I take my Tikka 308 CTR out and I'm ringing steel all the way out to 800m (875yd) with relative ease using a $475 CDN el cheapo scope!
Excellent review. I too am a huge fan of their scopes and the ACSS reticle in particular! You are definitely bringing your A game in these reviews! Keep it up!
Thank the Gods of firearms for Dimitri and Primary Arms! Finally! A scope manufacturer has figured out that the reticle is just as important as the overall optical image quality and durability, and theyve done it at very reasonable prices! The PA ACSS and other reticles are like driving a well equipped high end sports car with a fully featured dash with a speedometer, tachometer, coolant temperature,oil pressure, fuel level and all the other guages providing pertinent info. While most scopes give us only a speedo, tach and maybe a fuel level. And PA has found a way of delivering all that info without overwhelming us or feeling unnecessarily cluttered imo. Notice how others are now getting it? Everyones scrambling to create their own full featured dashboards but PA is pulling em down right now! Thank you Dimitri and Primary Arms!
Love PA. They're an amazing optic, company and the people that work for them are top notch. Just a tip on scope covers. Install them so the flip down and they're less apt to break off. Awesome review as always.
I have the 4x14 PA ACSS on my Savage, I recently seen this one and now I want it and to put my old scope into my Henry Long Ranger deer rifle. This is a cool scope and thanks for the review
The Last Huntsmen - im planning to upgrade from my PA 4-14x too. im not getting rid of it though. guess ill just have to buy another rifle to hold the 3-18x! lol
After using the Orion reticle from primary arms, it’s their hunting specific reticle, I became a fan. I don’t have a use for this fancy of a reticle yet but their cyclops is about to be set on an AK
I’ve been using an ACSS Orion for my field hunting rifle and it’s a fantastic scope. My max shooting distance is 450 yards on the field but I’m confident I can make those shots consistently with that scope and my rifle.
These scopes are awesome. I have primary arms optics on almost all my rifles. 2.5x and 1x prism 1-6x sfp in 223 and 7.62x39 and a 4-14x acss Orion ffp. I love everyone of them. I have recently found a 600yd range I can tell you they work with the 7.62x39 ks47 I’ve only went out to 300yds but the 223 1-6x and 4-14x Orion on my 6.5 Grendel get down out to 600yds. Follow the directions on zeroing your caliber then fine tune it at 300yds with the 300yd stadia and you will be hitting 6inch and possibly smaller targets out to 600yds just using the reticle. This is coming from a guy who had never taken a shot over 350yds until a couple months ago. I was on the 600yd steel 12x24’ with my 4th shot my very first try. Woulda been quicker but we literally had 25-30mph wind gust that day. Can’t wait to get this scope for my 243win. Just gotta save up a few more pennies
Great scope, have one for my ar 308. have shot groups in same jagged hole at 100. not just the scope doing that but certainly the right tool to help. reticle is outstanding, holdovers + windage spot on, clear glass, 99.9% tracking if needed. would recommend to everyone. haven't broke the covers yet, guess they need to be on the scope for that to happen. great value for a scope that'll put you at a 1000 without doping your shots. cons: to see the 1000yrd mark/windage you can't go over 16 power. mines the 308 ver, not sure if that's the same with others.
@@James-cp9sx PA does have military/vet and LEO discount, $450, I'd been saving money for it when I went to order they had a blem (had a tiny spot not painted/coated near the turret) got it to the house $350. don't know if my vet discount applied with that, don't think so.
Nice review! I came looking after having their 5x prism acss scope: I love it. And so I wondered what they had in acss at different magnification levels, and found this scope, and their 6-24 with the HUD DMR. SO, I now have the ability to outfit several very different rifles and calibers with scopes that are the same core reticle, but each expanded on different ways for specialized purposes. Saving up to outfit all of my rifles with different variants. I’m not sure there is a comparable reticle that is common and yet tweaked for specific use across any other manufacturer. There may be, but I like this one. :) Also: I’m no sniper either, but I grew up in the sticks using Kentucky windage with irons and cheap glass... this reticle is plenty helpful for what I’m looking for.
Looks like a 450 bushmaster caliber you got there. Good choice for Iowa. Very accurate caliber. Got a vortex diamonback 2-8×32 on my Ruger American with a magpul stock. It's not enough scope for the rifles accuracy.
I love all the “it’s too busy for me” comments. I feel like maybe you’re missing the purpose of this thing. DMR…. Multiple targets at various ranges, possibly unknown, winds and some movers….. naw, this reticle is actually on point
I like Vortex products for their quality an price. I have 3 of them. One is on my Ruger 10/22, the other one is on my Savage 111 model Trophy hunter in 7mm08 an the last on is on my Savage 93 17 HMR. Their scope caps are awesome too.
"i am become death, the destroyer of scope caps"- lol yeah ive got 9 notches in my PA 1-8x ACSS scope tube alone, 1 for each scope cap ive busted. 4 of which were the stock PA ones that came with it which i love. theyre light and compact and fold flat. but theyre made of very brittle material unfortunately. i have found a couple of good caps though. i have a Monstrum rear scope cap on my PA 1-8x ACSS SFP model. it was $12 on Amazon i think. its been very good. ive had it almost 20 months now. im not sure if they make one to fit the front though. im currently using a Butler Creek. nothing special there. it does seem theyre now making them from a softer, more flexible plastic that flexes instead of breaking. mine has lived over 14 months so far. for my PA 4-14x ACSS R-grid FFP scope, i splurged and went for the best plastic caps ive found so far in the Vortex defender caps. theyre kinda bulky but very tough and durable and they fold completely flat. if you want caps that will absolutely take just about any abuse, the defenders will handle it without sweat.ive had mine about 2 yrs now. theyre about $40 per set but worth every penny. they didnt have them to fit my PA 1-8x at the time i bought them but may now. if you want a step above in quality and durability the aluminum caps with magnetic closure from Tennebrex are excellent. theyre expensive at about $100 or more per set but theyre very small, compact and light and can definetely take some knocks. theres another similiar brand but i dont recall the manufscturers name.(*update* AADLAND) i know Leupold uses them on their higher end scopes like the MK-6 and higher. hope that helps.
That is a pretty busy reticle. I have the PA 1-6 x32 SFP ACCS scope. It is excellent but not quite as busy as this one. I know some would use all those lines, marks, and indicators, but that is more than I would ever use.
Luke Tilley - Leupold makes great optics. but many are made in the same factories as these PA scopes and others. made with the same quality and care and with the same components including glass. the difference? about $1000 or more. im not knocking Leupold but the optics industry doesnt work like you might think. very few optics companies actually make their products. theyre all made overseas, either Japan or the Phillipines for scopes in the $600 and up range or China for $600 and below. that is NOT a bad thing btw. optics of today are light years ahead of what they were even 10 yrs ago. but today, a savvy buyer can get equal quality and save thousands by buying smart. do a little research into it. youll see. and if not, your Leupolds will still serve you well. happy shooting!
Broke my primary arms front scope cover first time I opened it... They should just keep them. They are by far the worst one's I own. Scopes are solid though
How’s it going there sir, Christian from South Texas writing a comment here. I had a question, I just picked up a saint victor .308 AR-10 with a 16” barrel from Springfield armory and I’m torn whether to get this scope for hunting between 100-300 yards for hogs, whitetail deer, and nilagi. I’ve been told the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x24 would be fine for this role too. Which would you recommend for hunting within this range (100-300 yards) Including steel targets up to 400. I know you’re busy but thanks for your time and a reply would be greatly appreciated.
TexasLonghornRanch Yes, you can, if you get a Leupold. Just saying. I have butler creek’s on my Nikon and they do break but, not nearly as expensive as my Leupolds. Haven’t broke one of those yet, thank GOODNESS.
TexasLonghornRanch - get some Vortex defender scope caps. theyre about $40 per set but worth every penny. also the aluminum Tennebrex caps with magnetic closures are very compact and durable . pricey though at about $100 per set. Leupold uses a similiar cap. i cant recall the manufacturers name though.
KiLLaDaTa - i can speak for PA 4-14x ACSS R-grid FFP scope and both the stsndard PA 1-8x ACSS SFP and the PA platinum 1-8x ACSS FFP model. they perform incredibly well at low light.i expect that from the 4-14x by 44 mm due to its size but the 1-8x models have a tiny 24 mm objective yet pass a lot of light. as i understand it the new PA 3-18x by 50 mm ACSS scope is even better with a slight upgrade in glass and a larger objective than my 4-14x. i dont think youll have any issues with either model. they are excellent and the equal of other scopes costing 2-3 times as much or more. dont scoff at that. watch the videos and read the forumns etc. PA is on point!
I appreciate how you work in a lot of comparisons to let someone with less experience than you still have a framework of reference! You deliver a lot of information in a short amount of time, which is very hard to do without being obnoxious or worst of all... hideously boring!
I pre-ordered one and it was not working properly when it arrived. It had an issue with the reticle shadowing when it was illuminated. I sent it back a few days ago so I hope I will get it back in a few weeks. Has anyone dealt with Primary Arms customer service?
The HUD is my favorite BDC DMR type reticle on the planet; it's awesome
Me too out of all the reticles I have done the HUD is my favorite
This pair of comments finished making my mind up what scope I'm putting on my SPR-inspired build. Thank you gentlemen!
That is a pretty serious endorsement. I have been waiting for years for this scope for my M1A.
I love all my Primary Arms Optics. Robski from the AKOU 4774 got me started with PA. "Goat Rescue Team" Veteran. This will be my 3rd PA scope. I do not own more than one of any other scope.
I have the exact same setup. Savage 10 FCP-SR Digital Camo with the Primary Arms 3-18 acss hud. Unbelievably accurate. Almost too easy. 😉
Thanks for showing the reticle actually looking downrange. So many scope reviewers forget to do that.
I have the same scope but with the ACSS EOS 308 reticle. Everything is great. But the weak points are:
- Cheap glass... distorted at edges & unforgiving eye box at high magnification
- Mushy turrets, no zero stop
- My vertical turret tracks at .095 mil per click (5% low)
But other than these relatively minor shortcomings that are somewhat expected for such a dirt cheap optic... it really is quite good on a budget... the bdc reticle is sweet and the turrets track well enough to be totally functional. I giggle every time I take my Tikka 308 CTR out and I'm ringing steel all the way out to 800m (875yd) with relative ease using a $475 CDN el cheapo scope!
When you said "the one thing that broke-" I immediately went "scope cover" and laughed
Excellent review. I too am a huge fan of their scopes and the ACSS reticle in particular! You are definitely bringing your A game in these reviews! Keep it up!
Thank the Gods of firearms for Dimitri and Primary Arms!
Finally! A scope manufacturer has figured out that the reticle is just as important as the overall optical image quality and durability, and theyve done it at very reasonable prices!
The PA ACSS and other reticles are like driving a well equipped high end sports car with a fully featured dash with a speedometer, tachometer, coolant temperature,oil pressure, fuel level and all the other guages providing pertinent info.
While most scopes give us only a speedo, tach and maybe a fuel level.
And PA has found a way of delivering all that info without overwhelming us or feeling unnecessarily cluttered imo.
Notice how others are now getting it?
Everyones scrambling to create their own full featured dashboards but PA is pulling em down right now!
Thank you Dimitri and Primary Arms!
Awesome review and cool looking rifle, PAINT IT! Do it 😆!!
-Dimitri
By far my favorite reticle. Any chance it we get it on a 1x-8x?
A $3,000 reticle for $500! Can't pass that up!
You can if you're on a budget...
Call me: NotNearlyTactical
Love PA. They're an amazing optic, company and the people that work for them are top notch. Just a tip on scope covers. Install them so the flip down and they're less apt to break off. Awesome review as always.
tenebraex makes some great ones. I personally had some good luck with the vortex branded ones. They are a softer plastic and don’t just snap.
I have the 4x14 PA ACSS on my Savage, I recently seen this one and now I want it and to put my old scope into my Henry Long Ranger deer rifle. This is a cool scope and thanks for the review
The Last Huntsmen - im planning to upgrade from my PA 4-14x too.
im not getting rid of it though.
guess ill just have to buy another rifle to hold the 3-18x! lol
After using the Orion reticle from primary arms, it’s their hunting specific reticle, I became a fan. I don’t have a use for this fancy of a reticle yet but their cyclops is about to be set on an AK
I’ve been using an ACSS Orion for my field hunting rifle and it’s a fantastic scope. My max shooting distance is 450 yards on the field but I’m confident I can make those shots consistently with that scope and my rifle.
What a great, efficient, briefing on the HUD reticle. Great work!
These scopes are awesome. I have primary arms optics on almost all my rifles. 2.5x and 1x prism 1-6x sfp in 223 and 7.62x39 and a 4-14x acss Orion ffp. I love everyone of them. I have recently found a 600yd range I can tell you they work with the 7.62x39 ks47 I’ve only went out to 300yds but the 223 1-6x and 4-14x Orion on my 6.5 Grendel get down out to 600yds. Follow the directions on zeroing your caliber then fine tune it at 300yds with the 300yd stadia and you will be hitting 6inch and possibly smaller targets out to 600yds just using the reticle. This is coming from a guy who had never taken a shot over 350yds until a couple months ago. I was on the 600yd steel 12x24’ with my 4th shot my very first try. Woulda been quicker but we literally had 25-30mph wind gust that day. Can’t wait to get this scope for my 243win. Just gotta save up a few more pennies
Great review man! The HUD reticle is like cheating haha good stuff
I just grabbed one of these as well! TFS Carry On
Putting one of these on my AR next weekend. Should be interesting. Thanks for the vid man was helpful.
Great scope, have one for my ar 308. have shot groups in same jagged hole at 100. not just the scope doing that but certainly the right tool to help. reticle is outstanding, holdovers + windage spot on, clear glass, 99.9% tracking if needed. would recommend to everyone. haven't broke the covers yet, guess they need to be on the scope for that to happen. great value for a scope that'll put you at a 1000 without doping your shots. cons: to see the 1000yrd mark/windage you can't go over 16 power. mines the 308 ver, not sure if that's the same with others.
Jon James how much does this scope cost? I have an AR 10 also
500
@@James-cp9sx PA does have military/vet and LEO discount, $450, I'd been saving money for it when I went to order they had a blem (had a tiny spot not painted/coated near the turret) got it to the house $350. don't know if my vet discount applied with that, don't think so.
Nice review! I came looking after having their 5x prism acss scope: I love it. And so I wondered what they had in acss at different magnification levels, and found this scope, and their 6-24 with the HUD DMR. SO, I now have the ability to outfit several very different rifles and calibers with scopes that are the same core reticle, but each expanded on different ways for specialized purposes. Saving up to outfit all of my rifles with different variants. I’m not sure there is a comparable reticle that is common and yet tweaked for specific use across any other manufacturer. There may be, but I like this one. :)
Also: I’m no sniper either, but I grew up in the sticks using Kentucky windage with irons and cheap glass... this reticle is plenty helpful for what I’m looking for.
I Have The PA 4-14x44 HUD/DMR, A Great Scope, At A Great Price...
I really want one of these for my Remy 700!
Even though this video is fairly old I still like my PA ACSS HUD scopes.
I'm old school, a simple G4 reticle works. . .1 small dot to work with. . .
I run a canted pistol dot makes quick transition at distance on full magnification easier
Looks like a 450 bushmaster caliber you got there. Good choice for Iowa. Very accurate caliber. Got a vortex diamonback 2-8×32 on my Ruger American with a magpul stock. It's not enough scope for the rifles accuracy.
I love all the “it’s too busy for me” comments. I feel like maybe you’re missing the purpose of this thing. DMR…. Multiple targets at various ranges, possibly unknown, winds and some movers….. naw, this reticle is actually on point
I like Vortex products for their quality an price. I have 3 of them. One is on my Ruger 10/22, the other one is on my Savage 111 model Trophy hunter in 7mm08 an the last on is on my Savage 93 17 HMR. Their scope caps are awesome too.
2:40 the magnification where it’s accurate isn’t just max, it’s different for each optic
I thought we would see some long range shooting .. 1- 300 yards good to see a bolt gun for a change 1 bullet = 1 hit
"i am become death, the destroyer of scope caps"- lol
yeah ive got 9 notches in my PA 1-8x ACSS scope tube alone, 1 for each scope cap ive busted.
4 of which were the stock PA ones that came with it which i love. theyre light and compact and fold flat. but theyre made of very brittle material unfortunately.
i have found a couple of good caps though.
i have a Monstrum rear scope cap on my PA 1-8x ACSS SFP model. it was $12 on Amazon i think.
its been very good. ive had it almost 20 months now. im not sure if they make one to fit the front though.
im currently using a Butler Creek. nothing special there. it does seem theyre now making them from a softer, more flexible plastic that flexes instead of breaking. mine has lived over 14 months so far.
for my PA 4-14x ACSS R-grid FFP scope, i splurged and went for the best plastic caps ive found so far in the Vortex defender caps. theyre kinda bulky but very tough and durable and they fold completely flat.
if you want caps that will absolutely take just about any abuse, the defenders will handle it without sweat.ive had mine about 2 yrs now.
theyre about $40 per set but worth every penny.
they didnt have them to fit my PA 1-8x at the time i bought them but may now.
if you want a step above in quality and durability the aluminum caps with magnetic closure from Tennebrex are excellent. theyre expensive at about $100 or more per set but theyre very small, compact and light and can definetely take some knocks.
theres another similiar brand but i dont recall the manufscturers name.(*update* AADLAND) i know Leupold uses them on their higher end scopes like the MK-6 and higher.
hope that helps.
hold 'er Newt, shes rearin' ? -Nadja
Primary Arms, LLC - Nadja? i dont understand.
Nice review!
Awesome scope for the price.
Nice review. I noticed you said it is a MOA scope it is a MIL
That is a pretty busy reticle. I have the PA 1-6 x32 SFP ACCS scope. It is excellent but not quite as busy as this one. I know some would use all those lines, marks, and indicators, but that is more than I would ever use.
Gary H its designed for DMR so ukd , in wind against multiple targets including movers
Great video man! I’ll stick with Leupold as long as I can afford them. Leupold also makes really good scope covers, not cheap! Stay Safe!
Luke Tilley - Leupold makes great optics.
but many are made in the same factories as these PA scopes and others.
made with the same quality and care and with the same components including glass.
the difference? about $1000 or more.
im not knocking Leupold but the optics industry doesnt work like you might think. very few optics companies actually make their products.
theyre all made overseas, either Japan or the Phillipines for scopes in the $600 and up range or China for $600 and below.
that is NOT a bad thing btw. optics of today are light years ahead of what they were even 10 yrs ago.
but today, a savvy buyer can get equal quality and save thousands by buying smart.
do a little research into it. youll see.
and if not, your Leupolds will still serve you well. happy shooting!
Broke my primary arms front scope cover first time I opened it... They should just keep them. They are by far the worst one's I own. Scopes are solid though
Takes a CR123 battery? I assume you mean CR2032?
How is it for hunting?
is it a cr123 battery? I thought these took cr2032?
I need one.
Do the turrets lock on this scope?
Excellent. Looks like your zoom ring just clears the base when moved forward. What rings and height are you using? Looks like a perfect height.
Cool video thanks. I hear shark tank calling, think I’ve got lens covers that will not break ... ( just kidding)
How’s it going there sir, Christian from South Texas writing a comment here. I had a question, I just picked up a saint victor .308 AR-10 with a 16” barrel from Springfield armory and I’m torn whether to get this scope for hunting between 100-300 yards for hogs, whitetail deer, and nilagi. I’ve been told the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x24 would be fine for this role too. Which would you recommend for hunting within this range (100-300 yards) Including steel targets up to 400. I know you’re busy but thanks for your time and a reply would be greatly appreciated.
No fine adjustment?
Great Deal
been eyeball’n the leupold vx-5hd and the leupold mark ar... u’d recommend that primary arms scope over those 2 leupold scopes i just mentioned??
Great review as always, thanks! I think you meant CR2032 battery vs. CR123?
Hi, are you still using the scope? How is the scope performing now?
Dimitri can we get some good scope covers please!
TexasLonghornRanch
Yes, you can, if you get a Leupold. Just saying. I have butler creek’s on my Nikon and they do break but, not nearly as expensive as my Leupolds. Haven’t broke one of those yet, thank GOODNESS.
TexasLonghornRanch - get some Vortex defender scope caps. theyre about $40 per set but worth every penny.
also the aluminum Tennebrex caps with magnetic closures are very compact and durable . pricey though at about $100 per set.
Leupold uses a similiar cap. i cant recall the manufacturers name though.
TexasLonghornRanch I keep telling them..🤦🏻♂️
Can you make a video on the best way to zero in the new acs's HUD DMR for the AR-15 in 556/223
PEDRO JUAN TORRES countrymash has one
Does the 1k yard line disappear at full power?
John Johnston Its there but very low
Pretty boilerplate bro. How was it in low light?
KiLLaDaTa - i can speak for PA 4-14x ACSS R-grid FFP scope and both the stsndard PA 1-8x ACSS SFP and the PA platinum 1-8x ACSS FFP model.
they perform incredibly well at low light.i expect that from the 4-14x by 44 mm due to its size but the 1-8x models have a tiny 24 mm objective yet pass a lot of light.
as i understand it the new PA 3-18x by 50 mm ACSS scope is even better with a slight upgrade in glass and a larger objective than my 4-14x.
i dont think youll have any issues with either model. they are excellent and the equal of other scopes costing 2-3 times as much or more.
dont scoff at that. watch the videos and read the forumns etc.
PA is on point!
For scope covers.....AADLAND Engineering
These are definitely the best. www.aadmount.com/Caps/Caps.html
I appreciate how you work in a lot of comparisons to let someone with less experience than you still have a framework of reference! You deliver a lot of information in a short amount of time, which is very hard to do without being obnoxious or worst of all... hideously boring!
I pre-ordered one and it was not working properly when it arrived. It had an issue with the reticle shadowing when it was illuminated. I sent it back a few days ago so I hope I will get it back in a few weeks.
Has anyone dealt with Primary Arms customer service?
I have not had to deal with their customer service, but I have heard it is excellent.
I leave my scope covers in the box. Lol
Just what I don't need for a hunting rifle or an AR. Confusion in the crosshairs
2:47 "It takes a CR123 battery," Er, I thought it was a 2032?
500 these on amazon for 279!!!!
Do you have a link?
@@8luggarage its on amazon just go on there and type it in
Where’s the m 1897
👍🏽🇺🇸
Put a sock over the scope. ✅