I'm really tired of female lead characters like this who end up being the worst character but have the audacity to spend the entire film criticizing everyone else.
Whenever a movie main character says things like "The gender wage gap" or "Patriarchy" i completely shut my brain off and assume they are idiotic assholes.
Yeah I dislike characters like that too where the female protagonist who has the “not like other girls” personality, tries to reach a goal and antagonizes everyone in her way. They’re so terribly written as protagonists, but I’ve seen worse. *Looks over to Velma*
Technically the guidance counselor tried to say to get a letter of recommendation from a teacher or herself and told her not to do what Mandy did anyway😅
This is not a Disney Channel movie. I am convinced executives stole this from Netflix and no one said anything because Netflix has so many scripts like this they simply lost count.
Kinda bugs me how for someone smart enough to apply to Harvard, not once did she think about getting a letter of recommendation until she got waitlisted.. Like is it not common knowledge to get one when applying literally ANYWHERE?
Not all schools require the same criteria Also the letter of recommendation only works in Harvard because grahams father is from Harvard It wouldn’t work for Princeton
i find it unrealistic because on common-app (the program most american teens use to apply to colleges) literally requires two letters of recommendation so everyone that applies to college in this country knows that they're highly valuable except disney i guess
The writers honestly don’t think through how college admissions actually work. The letter of recommendation was just a plot device to get her to meet her potential love interest. The writers who thought of this probably applied to college years ago and have no idea how weird it was that they wrote the story the way they did.
The fact that they are teaching kids that high school is the peak of your life is just sad. And they've been teaching this for at least 3 or 4 generations
Ikr. Your time in high school, you're still developing. You're definitely not at your peak. My life blossomed as soon as i left college and started being more and more independent. Adulthood is the peak, not during high school years.
how can a time where you still live under one's authority (school and parents) and have grades to wrry about be the best time of your life? have these people heard of their 20s? being in control of your life will always be better than being a kid. but some ppl think otherwise cuz they are too scared to make their own dr's appointments. its ridiculous
I've been out of high school for 4 years and it's been hell. High School wasn't perfect but it was worse after. My friends are gone, and Covid made me realize how shitty people I trusted really are.
yap 100% agree. this and the fact these movies have literally been the cause of the recent generations' obsession with "losing virginity" in high school. all these teen movies written by adults about how 16 and 17 year olds are so embarrassed about not "hooking up" yet, and being scared to move on from high school "inexperienced" is so fucked up. really not the lessons we should be teaching anyone...
The fact that Disney cancelled the owl house just because two girls were blushing at each other but let that p in a v joke slide is absolutely infuriating
The stuff Mandy says is a great example on how NOT to teach people about sexism. You can't just cram lessons about sexism into places where they don't fit and expect them to seem right. Put it in a context where it makes sense! If anything, it feels like they're making fun of people who fight sexism.
I agree with your last sentence lmao like this has the energy of most Disney movies in that its a caricature of how teens act. In the same way teens were never like "OMG THAT WAS LIKE SO TOTES AWESOME! BRB" in real life. Now theyre trying to portray a "woke" teenage girl but the writers are clearly at least 30 to 40 years old and have no idea how teens act so they just throw buzzwords around hoping the woke teens will love it
I agree with you totally! It feels like a mockery of feminism and it is a very limited type of feminism (people have to think that women have studied the systemic plight of women while accounting for every type of thing - race, class, colonial histories, environmentalism, lesbianism). It's like the writers genuinely wanted to say feminists are annoying, silly and dumb. Thanks
@@mackenzie1845 Same here. I also feel that Maya from the Proud Family reboot is basically that same kind of "woke teenager" or wannabe activist but with racism. It's also like these writers actually believe that Twitter/social media culture among teenagers represent real life. :/
Whenever any movie starts doing the “sexism bad I’m gonna prove it by constantly pointing out how men suck” thing I lose braincells, yet Mandy was somehow so bad she made me lose my entire brain.
Agreed. But counterpoint: How good of a man is Graham in the end for ignoring all of that and still indicating a liking for her in the end? Don't forget one of the worst causes of women being brats is the girl worshipping guys that support it. And I'm not even saying that sexism isn't problem. It's a major one but for both and can't be solved by one or the other.
What a coincidence! I found a brain last Tuesday while it was raining cats and dogs. Good thing, too, before that hurricane came on Thursday. It's on the lost and found in your local Target.
They just do not have the range, it always screams them trying to be cool and thinking “the kids will love this one!!!” Meanwhile no teen talks like this
I really love the idea of having a teen show that asks the question “maybe I’ve wasted my teenage life pretending I’m better than everyone else?” I think it’s such an interesting and adult concept and I thought it was really interesting to see in this movie
characters like mandy are actually so harmful to feminism their actively shaming women for making their own choices (going to prom/ parties) it's infuriating edit: i ment that she's not relatable like disney thought she would be most teenage girls are feminists and went to prom doing girlie things isn't the problem and nobody talks like she does overal disney flopped this one
Nah they make it very clear what feminism is really all about. YOU might not feel that way but plenty of your homies do and the way woke sjw politics works is the squeakiest wheel gets the grease. You opened Pandora's box, don't whine when it blows up in your faces.
Two popular movies. Legally blonde and Mean girls. Both the many leads were polar opposites. One that loved all things pretty and pink, the other a total tom boy, they try to change who they are but realized that won't make them happy and go back to what they like. Both characters are strong female leads! Why does Hollywood seriously think that THIS female lead character in this movie would make me feel a connection to her? The whole review I thought, no wonder you only have one friend! Why would I wanna be around someone that is so bitter about everything!
Ikr. I loveeeee Elle. She's not "not like other girls", she's feminine and girly and loves pink and has a tiny chihuahua. She appears like a clueless bimbo. But she's got healthy ambition and works hard. She's intelligent and uses her interests other people dismiss as trivial or silly to solve issues. Love my autistic girly queen. Imo it's a truly feminist film. It empowers women without putting them into a box and doesn't have to put down men to do it. Kadie is more of the not like other girls trope but not too obnoxiously so. I love both movies.
legally blonde is so wonderful the fact that it had a feminine woman being shown in a good light and not stupid and she didn't have to change herself to do well is so amazing and inspiring
I would argue that Cady isn’t a “total tomboy”, she’s just kinda an average girl who acts like an average girl and wears average girl clothes. But otherwise, yeah, you’re absolutely correct.
Elle is such a role model. Literally all she has to do is actually try for once. It wasn’t just about proving others wrong. She had to prove to herself that she could be more than her hair and boobs, and that doing so was actually worth it.
I've always wondered why these Harvard enthusiast characters never apply to any other of the Ivy league schools. Do they not realise that whatever major they would have picked, they would be learning the same material? Just a different location.
Easy Harvard spends tons of money into marketing to keep their name in the public conscious. So everyone thinking that anything less than Harvard or Yale is less than the best.
Can we get a teen movie where the main character is not an overachieving girl who hates feminine things and men and her only goal in life is college? No? 😂😂 Also, I was SHOCKED to see that this movie was played on Disney Channel!
that movie exists its To all the boys I've loved before But I get what you mean I'm pretty sick of these one note characterizations of not like other girls (which is basically every girl in movies lol)
@@silvervr5911 so… basically everything I said? 😂 I wasn’t sure if you were a bot or something since I see you commented that on a lot of comments haha
“Do you get this character’s personality yet?!” She’s an insufferable bish? A total wet blanket? Completely unlikable? A Not Like Other Girls cliche?😱 No I don’t. The writing was way too subtle.
Honestly I was definitely expecting Mandy and Ben to fall in love with each other with a classic love triangle thing looking at the poster but I was mildly impressed they stayed best friends till the end
right? like, one is an action. so, when someone says they hate dancing, it's implied that they hate doing the dancing. a wage gap isn't an action or something that one actively/physcially does. so, comparing the two makes no sense. i'm sure there's a middle-aged writer out there who really thought he did something with this line, too.
Latoya really got the short end of the stick through held the movie. Has one good night, gets the most awkward conversation ever, then gets bailed on and left with the check. Comes back and gets rejected to prom.
@@bonitakourtney8544 yes I know, I thought talking to Latoya would be a good start for her redeeming arc but instead Latoya forgave Ben just by him saying I want to kiss her now is bit sudden
Okay I’m genuinely shocked they made a recurring sex joke in a disney movie lmao, disney’s going places thats for sure. The right places, that’s debateable.
watch anything made by nickelodeon in the mid 2000s, or anything by disney from the early 2000s. lmao i didn’t realize we were turning puritanical again and shielding healthy “sex” education from people
@@mcflurry2061 that line isn't in the broadcast cut of the movie disney+ carries the uncensored version of the film. The Disney+ version has a 14 rating while the broadcast version has a PG raiting and many scenes are either cut or redubbed
Yeah, It doesn’t even seem like a Disney channel movie. has woke agenda, feminism, political ideologies, sex jokes, underage drinking and drugs. There is absolutely no way this is disney channel, it cant be!!! But then again my disney channel days were during thats so raven zack and cody wizards of waverly place Halloween town, ect. So I guess its just a different generation however no way in hell when i have children will i allow my kids to watch this new “disney channel” . Its a shame what kids are watching now.
At least the best friends stayed platonic by the end, which is a great way to subvert expectations. There should be more guy/girl friendships on screen!
There is ducky and whatever Molly Ringwalds character was called. And whatever you think of that movie at least kissing booth had a decent platonic relationship too. Agreed though! Normalize heterosexual friendship!
Listening to this girl complaining about the patriarchy nonstop is annoying just in this little video. Imagine having to live with this girl in reality. It would be headache inducing
Honestly this is what modern feminism has become. It’s why I can’t identity with the modern feminist movement, even as a woman in a prestigious career. It’s way too extreme nowadays.
The kid who played Graham is named Blake Draper. I went to Primary school with him and he was in my year level. He's a fairly new actor to the game. So I almost had a mini heart attack when i saw his face pop up on my screen. This is the weirdest feeling watching someone i know act in a movie.
Apparently they changed out some of the scenes when they played the movie on Disney Channel. So the P in V thing didn't happen on the channel. But Disney+ is more "scandalous"
The minute Mandy started talking about how Prom-posals are stupid, even if I never went to my prom, HATED the idea of it, let people have fun. Quit being a sourpuss my gods.
Prom-posals are stupid thought. About the same cringe level as public proposals. And dont take me wrong here, i wont say anything against anyone liking those. I will most possibly shudder and facepalm behind their backs thought.
Ben should've apologized for rejecting LaToya, or even Mandy could've had a girl-to-girl moment with LaToya and explained their prom pact but that they're just friends and she should still go after Ben.
Fr Latoya deserved a better apology and Ben deserved a better friend. But at least Mandy sort of makes up for it and does help him and Latoya get back together again.
It’s crazy the entirety of the events of this movie is “Mandy is a bad friend and emotionally manipulates a guy just for it to be completely pointless”
Decided to consider the sociopolitical implications of a "promposal" on a lark. Perhaps the idea is that because there's an expectation of guys asking girls out for prom, Mandy's suggesting that the girls being asked out are seen as prizes to be won over while the guys doing the asking out are having their social standing decided by whether or not they can succeed at finding a partner for the local promenade?... Obviously though, I think the actual answer is that the writers don't know how to write for a feminist character, and had her spout random buzzwords that don't connect with each other at the start of the movie to showcase her eventual turnaround by the end of the movie.
The only good points about prom was whe she pointed out the way the guys didn't even care enough to do a promposal that was based on their girlfriends liking
I would love to see a teen movie navigate themes of "Don't dislike stuff just because it's popular", and "don't waste your teen years judging everyone else", and of course "getting into your dream college is not actually the be-all-end-all". If only this movie had explored any of that.
the whole "woke" female main character trope is getting very annoying to me. It's in every teen movie these days. They're important topics but like there is literally NO NEED in a disney prom movie
And like no one actually speaks like this. No feminist brings these topics up unless they are relevant. And Mandy's whole "I'm not like the other girls" is very non-feminist as well. There are so many ways to be a woman and none of them are wrong. But Hollywood is really bad at representation and Disney is no exception
I believe it's a scheme to make us hate all that ¨woke liberal bs¨, y´know most of these movies are made and produced by wealthy people who don't benefit from wokeness at all, they're just trying to capitalize on what's trending with the ¨youth¨.
Mandy is actually a very realistic pick me girl. She hates anything to do with what others are involved in until she finds out she likes it, and then it’s not a big deal. She’s a “feminist” who doesn’t know how to use a power tool and hates most things guys do until she likes a guy and then it’s not a big deal anymore 😂 Edit: y’all are still arguing on my post oh my gosh 😂💀
“A feminist that doesn’t know how to use a power tool” and so??? what’s the point of you pointing that out cuz it doesn’t have correlation whatsoever.. you can be a feminist without knowing how those tools work
@@tofusuns896 I guess I mean that most modern feminists talk down to men and treat them as less but they don’t know how to do a lot of basic things that are typically “manly” like using power tools. By typically, I mean statistically. And by “modern” I mean the ones of today. Feminism wasn’t about hating on men back then, that’s why I put the word in quotations. Because the “feminists” I see today are basically just whiny brats who hate men
@@kelseybaloney4984 And how many "feminists" have you actually met then? Because I can tell you that it still isn't about "hating men" unless you delve into places like the manosphere. Do a lot of modern men know how to use/typical "manly stuff" either? Do they need to? What are the statistics on that?
@@tofusuns896 No.... "a 'feminist' who doesn't know how to use a power tool." Just saying, if you're going to use quotation marks, please make sure you recognize where they're located in your quotes.
YOU GOTTA PUT SOME- that line was unhinged, disgusting, and very uncomfortable to watch on my end when the kids I was babysitting for wanted to watch this. If it’s rated pg and on Disney+ KIDS I would expect better.
I...this is a Disney movie? Acknowledging sex and drinking and having nicknames like "no nuts" the meaning of which is definitely ambiguously sexual until they explain... This is a DCOM?
If the Mandela Effect thing is real, I wanna go back to the dimension where they weren’t just OPENLY TALKING ABOUT HOOKING UP WITH PEOPLE ON THE DISNEY CHANNEL?!
To all the younglings on here: don't worry if your high school days haven't been the best. There is nothing sadder than being an adult who peaked in high school. I've met grown ass people who talk about nothing but their teenage years because it's been nothing but downhill since then for them, and that's honestly depressing. You got plenty of time (and much more freedom) to live your best life once school is over! I spent most of high school stressing because I wasn't doing all the cool things I saw teens do on TV, and was convinced that once school was over I'd be condemned to 50+ years of boring adult work and no play. My uni years weren't all that exciting, either. Wasn't until after I landed my first job that things really picked up! Financial independence; my own place; a new social network of colleagues; personal freedom! I'm in my late 30s and whenever my young nieces and nephews fret over school woes I assure them that while their education is important, school life itself is no indicator of social worth, and that they're gonna get the best out of life once they go out into the world.
Yes, when I was in high school I was sad I missed out on “typical” teen shenanigans. But now in my twenties I don’t even think about what I missed as a teen, because instead of sneaking out to go drink at a party, I am now traveling the world, which I personally think is more fun. So don’t fret about not having the crazy high school experiences teens, it gets so much better as an adult.
8:45 summed it up, she hates the system and patriarchy but still wants all the benefits of it by a top school, its nepotism, complain for the sake of it but not actually a standard other than double standards
Fr these days the main characters get together or one is over the top high voice always wearing a long tacky librarian skirt gay. Idc if ur gay or whatnot but Disney’s always trying to be woke 😭
@@cherryleehartley1661 not really,Disney has a history of doing it sometimes,I don’t have anything wrong with it in my opinion it’s good rep but like at the same time it gets predictable slash repetitive to the point where it doesn’t seem genuine and it makes it seem more like they just snuck it in there to seem/feel good about themselves
From how this looks I feel like this ending is pretty sweet and I especially love how Ben isn't secretly in love with Mandy and they really are just friends. As a girl whose three closest friends include a guy who's not in love with any of the rest of us at all it's really nice to see friendships being appreciated and not dismissed like they usually are. The one complaint I have is that Mindy seems INSUFFERABLE.
@@chaosspy6723 I knew plenty of guys that went to prom with their guy friends too. I feel like both boys and girls have more fun and it’s less pressure when you go with friends
@Addicted To Success yea I support this because one of my friends went with her bf, and he was grumpy the whole time. Meanwhile, we were having a function.
What I wonder is why do they have to edit it at all? You don't expect Disney to make films with references to fornication in them and yet they made one. It's a little weird that they decided to even slap their name on the film at all.
The movie was originally supposed to be released in theaters before they changed their mind for some reason. Just by looking at the style of the movie, it looks like it was made for theaters.
Look, I'm a feminist vegetarian, but DEAR LORD if I had to listen to Mandy talk for one more minute I was going to explore 😭 Also, the fact she was volunteering just because it looked good on her application 💀
@craigyeah1052 bro it actually is the worst… a teen in my town started a “nonprofit” to “help the homeless” but she literally just took photos with homeless people on one food run and then her parents hired people to run it.
I can kinda relate to Ben. I was the "emo, anti- anything popular, class skipping, everything & everyone is lame" and near end of highschool I realized how immature & shitty I was purposely making school for myself.
Mandy's friend 5 years from now will be like, "Why was I ever friends with her?" Also, remember that joke about how Disney always clones their tv stars? Mandy straight up looks like a Demi Lavato mixed with Brenda Song clone, and Grahm looks like one of the Zack and Cody twins mixed with Zac Efron clone.
in hocus pocus the main plot of the movie was finding a kid that’s a virgin, and they harped on how important it was to find a pure virgin, and made jokes about the other characters that did have sex. like how are y’all shocked
@@sybill123ful true, guess I forgot about that lol I think because like the video mentions, Disney had this shift to like really childish movies for awhile there.
@@sybill123ful Thank you for bringing up one specific movie, but I think most people who watched Disney shows/dcom‘s can say shows like dog with a blog and good luck Charlie did not make “P in V” jokes. Which is what was surprising
The one thing Disney channel did stick to was their trend of tricking us into believing that getting into these Ivy League and top level colleges is easy. Like Hannah Montana: Stanford, teddy Duncan: Yale, KC Cooper: Stanford (while being a teenage spy) and now Mandy and Harvard Like Disney wtf
I agree except KC got a perfect score on the SAT. Crazy I know, but she was canonically a genius - perfect even. The others were out of nowhere sometimes.
It's apparently because there's like a rule that you cant make bad ad of a school so you need to use one of the top ivy league schools in your film and show how the characters get in and that's why everyone is always going to Harvard and whatnot
@@spntageous5249 They a re most definitely not, but telling kids that they can get an AA degree at a local community college for a fraction of the cost would mean those super expensive universities won't pay Disney for advertising in their movies anymore.
11:06 "What the heck is wrong with this thing? It doesn't even work" "oh you're doing it wrong, let me show you" "Do Not Approach me Satan!!!" Y'all I'm dying
9:08 I'm gonna assume this is gonna be the justification to brush aside any bad thing she does as if it wasn't bad. I can already tell this movie sucks.
Honestly, I didn’t think it would be possible for Peyton Elizabeth-Lee to play a absolutely unlikable, intolerant character, but wow, this movie was a MASSIVE exception.
@Shadbraw Bro, you were an extra? That's epic!! And I'm sure Peyton is nice, I just didn't expect the character she acted to be so unlikable at parts. Great actress all around tho
@@caramel_frappe oh yeah. The fact she’s nice irl and can play someone as unlikeable as Mandy speaks to her acting ability. And yeah I’m an extra in Season 2 of Doogie Kamealoha. (:
I mean, Andi got annoying too on Andi Mack. Sometimes Andi was likeable, and sometimes she was really full of herself. The writing on that show went really back and forth between being good and bad.
At this point Disney is just trying to make me hate them. Every girl character now is so quirky and basically shames anyone who goes out and parties and things like that. The Mandy girl criticizes EVERYTHING that’s not Harvard or school related. Can we just have a like yk… a movie when the girl isn’t a complete and total pick me…?
@@duckymomo7935Thankfully, The Owl House is a good exception. The couple in the movie, Luz and Amity, are both very strong female leads, with Luz leaning more towards genderqueer. Basically, both characters are not pick me’s because they are just strong as hell, they don’t need to be focused on it at all.
Literally just sends the message that all these "angry women" need is a man to treat her right and she'll forget all this nonsense about mistreatment and double standards. But if they REALLY cared they would treat the "good guys" better.
I’m an English major going on my 4th year of college and I have learned how to and how not to write characters. One of the most important things I was taught is how to observe people. They told me stories who don’t seem realistic don’t get published, but so many teenage movies/shows are so awkward and unrealistic lol
16:39 My least favourite modern movie trope is scenes written by 40+ year olds in which _kids these days_ record their classmates (in extremely high quality) having plot relevant arguments and it "goes viral" in the school, revealing sHocKiNg information to another character. Are we sure that this movie didn't accidentally come out on the wrong platform?
Hey! Take it easy on us 40 year olds! Believe me Niamh....I was just living my life...and them boom! One day I was 15. I kept on living my life and then five seconds later I was 25! Went on living life again and now boom! 3 seconds after being 25, I am now almost 40. I don't know how it happened! Yesterday I was 15!......But, seriously all jokes aside okay? I know I have no idea what is cool and what isn't. The 40+ Year olds need to actually talk to some kids about the lingo and the actions that are going on right now. Just remember though. You too are going to be just bopping along living your life and one day "5 seconds are going to pass" and you are going to be 40 as well. Take it easy on us. We arn't young - we know that but, we also arn't "old" - even though 40 seems old to you. We are doing our best to not wear Forever 21 but we arn't ready for the granny moomoo yet either. Middle age is rough and from what I hear it only gets worse from here on in. Take pity on us!
@@Lucailey Hehe:). I don't consider 40 to be "old" yet either, I just typed that because people in their 30's are more likely to have grown up around the time when mobile phones were becoming common and therefore understand what kind of scenes involving phones are farfetched.
@15:51 Risky Business? I barely remember that movie. Tom Cruise in Legend is the jam but I feel most 80s girls liked Labyrinth, Princess Bride or Neverending Story
That's just sad. "P" in a "v" in a 'kids' movie. Always in a rush to make kids grow up/bring perversion in as young as possible. What happened to just letting kids be kids? Disney has gone so far downhill; it's worse than you know.
I’m so glad to see other people acknowledge how insufferable the main character was. I thought I was alone for a second! I was really glad to see a platonic friendship though that was very refreshing.
Oh gosh the "Get laid in HS, or you're a nerd," trope. I'm pretty sure everyone knows not having sex in highschool is normal, and the people that talked the most about sex either didn't have any themselves.
At 14:50 , I literally don't think I've ever laughed harder at an Alex Meyers video. The sounds of Alex just dying of cringe/2nd hand embarrassment is so freaking funny🤣😂
Wow, Ben gets a really raw deal in this story, pushes his life to the side to help his friend achieve her goals, screwing up his chances with the girl he likes, and doesn't even get anything to make up for it in the end, just to find out that the entire scheme was unnecessary the entire time.
Have you missed recent developments? Celebrating the sexuality of children. Running LGBT events at Disneyland.. it's kids, dude, they don't understand their sexual orientation.
@@grafandokids very much understand their sexual orientation. They also start to identify with a certain gender between 2-3 years old. Also, just because someone is gay doesn’t mean they’re more “sexual”. Two boys holding hands is not sexual, any more than a boy and girl holding hands is sexual. It’s wholesome.
As someone who never had a prom because of covid and also never had any dream school and just picked a random one.... the concepts of these movies are always so TIRED lol
It was obvious from the beginning that Mandy was always going to "learn a lesson," but did they have to make her so insufferably self-centered? I mean, after she gets weight-listed she storms into her guidance counselor's office and throws the kid sitting there out as if whatever his problem was isn't important. That being said, this movie was better than I expected...
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With Honors is a old movie they went to Harvard what she know about Harvard
I'm really tired of female lead characters like this who end up being the worst character but have the audacity to spend the entire film criticizing everyone else.
Whenever a movie main character says things like "The gender wage gap" or "Patriarchy" i completely shut my brain off and assume they are idiotic assholes.
Did you.. watch the film? that's Mandy's entire character flaw and the moment she realized that, she actually had some decent character development
Yeah I dislike characters like that too where the female protagonist who has the “not like other girls” personality, tries to reach a goal and antagonizes everyone in her way. They’re so terribly written as protagonists, but I’ve seen worse.
*Looks over to Velma*
@@cherryleehartley1661but did she really get punished for those flaws or fail upwards
Gaslight, Gate keep, ✨Girlboss✨
lets all remember that none of this would have happened if the guidance counselor just gave Mandy some competent goddamn advice
You know this screams KIssing Booth
To be fair she tried to, but Mandy wouldn't listen
Yep, why must all adults be portrayed as laughably incompetent in teen movies?!
I'm not sure they're allowed to tell kids they can't do something these days.
Technically the guidance counselor tried to say to get a letter of recommendation from a teacher or herself and told her not to do what Mandy did anyway😅
This is not a Disney Channel movie. I am convinced executives stole this from Netflix and no one said anything because Netflix has so many scripts like this they simply lost count.
The broke into Netflix HQ, I swear
It said a disney channel original movie. Which is shocking
I mean it does have Disney actors so they probably just stole the script if anything
@@themoviecritic1092 well high school musical is litterally grease 3
@@baylordiamond8819 Yeah I know, pretty obvious
Kinda bugs me how for someone smart enough to apply to Harvard, not once did she think about getting a letter of recommendation until she got waitlisted..
Like is it not common knowledge to get one when applying literally ANYWHERE?
For me, at least, it was literally required. The best schools don't accept you unless you have at least two letters of recommendation.
Not all schools require the same criteria
Also the letter of recommendation only works in Harvard because grahams father is from Harvard
It wouldn’t work for Princeton
i find it unrealistic because on common-app (the program most american teens use to apply to colleges) literally requires two letters of recommendation so everyone that applies to college in this country knows that they're highly valuable except disney i guess
The writers honestly don’t think through how college admissions actually work. The letter of recommendation was just a plot device to get her to meet her potential love interest. The writers who thought of this probably applied to college years ago and have no idea how weird it was that they wrote the story the way they did.
That and she didn't apply for other schools as a backup in case she didn't get accepted into the school
you know...going to prom with platonic friends is an extremely normal thing. I don't understand why they had to make an entire movie about it
Yeah I went to my prom with my friend group. And I had a great time. It’s not that big of a deal.
We’re you all stalked by a masked killer?
@@freddieadams8435 That is a classic spam.
exactly
They probably didnt go to their own prom
The fact that they are teaching kids that high school is the peak of your life is just sad. And they've been teaching this for at least 3 or 4 generations
Ikr. Your time in high school, you're still developing. You're definitely not at your peak. My life blossomed as soon as i left college and started being more and more independent. Adulthood is the peak, not during high school years.
how can a time where you still live under one's authority (school and parents) and have grades to wrry about be the best time of your life? have these people heard of their 20s? being in control of your life will always be better than being a kid. but some ppl think otherwise cuz they are too scared to make their own dr's appointments. its ridiculous
I've been out of high school for 4 years and it's been hell. High School wasn't perfect but it was worse after. My friends are gone, and Covid made me realize how shitty people I trusted really are.
THIS! And then it makes school even worse when you realize it’s not…
yap 100% agree.
this and the fact these movies have literally been the cause of the recent generations' obsession with "losing virginity" in high school. all these teen movies written by adults about how 16 and 17 year olds are so embarrassed about not "hooking up" yet, and being scared to move on from high school "inexperienced" is so fucked up. really not the lessons we should be teaching anyone...
A Disney movie talking about underage drinking and sex? Last time I watched anything on there girls couldn’t even wear crop tops 😂
Or cartoon characters spin the bottle
@@therapyhelps they could eat the background characters alive though!
@@Pukeprincess And have a flying Dorito take out a deers teeth and relocate the face of a rich dude
It cause it's not Disney channel
@@therapyhelps Or talk about wanting to turn some kids into corpses
The fact that Disney cancelled the owl house just because two girls were blushing at each other but let that p in a v joke slide is absolutely infuriating
And he said it TWICE
@@tuesdaygrey7506 TWICE 😭😭
Technically it's a Disney + movie that premiered on Disney Channel too a couple days after
They censored it on Disney channel
disney did not cancel toh bc of lgbtqia
The stuff Mandy says is a great example on how NOT to teach people about sexism. You can't just cram lessons about sexism into places where they don't fit and expect them to seem right. Put it in a context where it makes sense! If anything, it feels like they're making fun of people who fight sexism.
I agree with your last sentence lmao like this has the energy of most Disney movies in that its a caricature of how teens act. In the same way teens were never like "OMG THAT WAS LIKE SO TOTES AWESOME! BRB" in real life. Now theyre trying to portray a "woke" teenage girl but the writers are clearly at least 30 to 40 years old and have no idea how teens act so they just throw buzzwords around hoping the woke teens will love it
@Ks that’s because nobody irl speaks like this 😭
IM SAYING they definitely did that with mandy on purpose
I agree with you totally! It feels like a mockery of feminism and it is a very limited type of feminism (people have to think that women have studied the systemic plight of women while accounting for every type of thing - race, class, colonial histories, environmentalism, lesbianism).
It's like the writers genuinely wanted to say feminists are annoying, silly and dumb. Thanks
@@mackenzie1845 Same here.
I also feel that Maya from the Proud Family reboot is basically that same kind of "woke teenager" or wannabe activist but with racism. It's also like these writers actually believe that Twitter/social media culture among teenagers represent real life. :/
Whenever any movie starts doing the “sexism bad I’m gonna prove it by constantly pointing out how men suck” thing I lose braincells, yet Mandy was somehow so bad she made me lose my entire brain.
Rip your brain
Agreed. But counterpoint: How good of a man is Graham in the end for ignoring all of that and still indicating a liking for her in the end? Don't forget one of the worst causes of women being brats is the girl worshipping guys that support it. And I'm not even saying that sexism isn't problem. It's a major one but for both and can't be solved by one or the other.
Can I get your spleen? :D
Exactly
What a coincidence! I found a brain last Tuesday while it was raining cats and dogs. Good thing, too, before that hurricane came on Thursday. It's on the lost and found in your local Target.
Adult men writing feminist teenage girls will never not be cringe 😬
agreed i always see a 60 year old executive saying "how do ya do fellow kids i support current things too gimme munnies"
They just do not have the range, it always screams them trying to be cool and thinking “the kids will love this one!!!” Meanwhile no teen talks like this
Yeah they are like “Pink, high heels, slow dances rainstones and bows. I hate those because I’m feminist
I don't know. I legitimately knew a girl just like this in high school. It was just as painful to watch in person.
Riiiiggghhhtttt
Calling Prom a Social patriarchy is one way to tell everyone you're not getting a date.
Honestly yeah
“pRoMpOsAlS iS tHe pAtRiArChY sHoWiNg dOmInaNcE oVeR wOeMen”
*queer couples and platonic groups have left the chat*
Prom was actually made for girls lol
@@MeNooNie1806What are queer couples?
lol yeah
I really love the idea of having a teen show that asks the question “maybe I’ve wasted my teenage life pretending I’m better than everyone else?” I think it’s such an interesting and adult concept and I thought it was really interesting to see in this movie
a good modern example of this is booksmart
Booksmart did it much better
Except the characters didn’t learn anything in this movie lmao
Except when it’s a movie you’ve seen 100 times like this one.
Honestly I am so glad I have been changing my own attitude on this and it’s just so freeing to have fun
characters like mandy are actually so harmful to feminism their actively shaming women for making their own choices (going to prom/ parties) it's infuriating
edit: i ment that she's not relatable like disney thought she would be most teenage girls are feminists and went to prom doing girlie things isn't the problem and nobody talks like she does overal disney flopped this one
Nah they make it very clear what feminism is really all about. YOU might not feel that way but plenty of your homies do and the way woke sjw politics works is the squeakiest wheel gets the grease. You opened Pandora's box, don't whine when it blows up in your faces.
@@georgerafa5041 that’s not what feminism is at all lmao. You honestly just made yourself sound really stupid there.
@@georgerafa5041 are you using a scripted teens movie as proof that feminism is bad? 😂
@@georgerafa5041 ah yes, feminism bad, Trump good. We get it. You’re a loser.
*they're :)
And I agree
Two popular movies.
Legally blonde and Mean girls. Both the many leads were polar opposites. One that loved all things pretty and pink, the other a total tom boy, they try to change who they are but realized that won't make them happy and go back to what they like. Both characters are strong female leads! Why does Hollywood seriously think that THIS female lead character in this movie would make me feel a connection to her? The whole review I thought, no wonder you only have one friend! Why would I wanna be around someone that is so bitter about everything!
Ikr. I loveeeee Elle. She's not "not like other girls", she's feminine and girly and loves pink and has a tiny chihuahua. She appears like a clueless bimbo. But she's got healthy ambition and works hard. She's intelligent and uses her interests other people dismiss as trivial or silly to solve issues. Love my autistic girly queen. Imo it's a truly feminist film. It empowers women without putting them into a box and doesn't have to put down men to do it.
Kadie is more of the not like other girls trope but not too obnoxiously so. I love both movies.
legally blonde is so wonderful the fact that it had a feminine woman being shown in a good light and not stupid and she didn't have to change herself to do well is so amazing and inspiring
I agree with you, no way I could have a connection with Mandy, she is not relatable at all
I would argue that Cady isn’t a “total tomboy”, she’s just kinda an average girl who acts like an average girl and wears average girl clothes. But otherwise, yeah, you’re absolutely correct.
Elle is such a role model. Literally all she has to do is actually try for once. It wasn’t just about proving others wrong. She had to prove to herself that she could be more than her hair and boobs, and that doing so was actually worth it.
I've always wondered why these Harvard enthusiast characters never apply to any other of the Ivy league schools. Do they not realise that whatever major they would have picked, they would be learning the same material? Just a different location.
Easy Harvard spends tons of money into marketing to keep their name in the public conscious. So everyone thinking that anything less than Harvard or Yale is less than the best.
“BuT HaRvArD iS tHe BeST!”
Can we get a teen movie where the main character is not an overachieving girl who hates feminine things and men and her only goal in life is college? No? 😂😂
Also, I was SHOCKED to see that this movie was played on Disney Channel!
@@silvervr5911 no 😂 mostly bc I’m not sure which part you’re referring to
that movie exists its To all the boys I've loved before
But I get what you mean I'm pretty sick of these one note characterizations of not like other girls (which is basically every girl in movies lol)
@@silvervr5911 so… basically everything I said? 😂 I wasn’t sure if you were a bot or something since I see you commented that on a lot of comments haha
@@Tam4iAngel ohh I forgot that one! I haven’t watched it, but it looks good from the reviews I’ve watched
And that is why Legally Blond is still iconic.
“Do you get this character’s personality yet?!”
She’s an insufferable bish?
A total wet blanket?
Completely unlikable?
A Not Like Other Girls cliche?😱
No I don’t. The writing was way too subtle.
Unlikable to you maybe.
@@Wandasolosurfavs well she seems to be unlikable to most of the people in this comment section.
@@Draconicus702 Oh wait yeah i hate her i thought this was under a different video. Yes i agree shes the worst character i replied to the wrong video
@@Wandasolosurfavs💀
@@Wandasolosurfavs💀
Honestly I was definitely expecting Mandy and Ben to fall in love with each other with a classic love triangle thing looking at the poster but I was mildly impressed they stayed best friends till the end
yeah, i think thats cool too! i just hope it *stays* that way cause the end probably set it up for a sequel 😭😭
I wanted them to fall in love.
@@kaitlynmorgan4613 What would the sequel be about? College prom?
i hate how in movies like this the mc always ditches the much better best friend just to go for the new guy she barely knows. like come onn
@@PurpleMoon799 That's real life, buddy. :(
"the only thing i hate more than slow dancing is the gender wage gap" 😭😭 help that is the most out-of-pocket sentence ive ever heard
right? like, one is an action. so, when someone says they hate dancing, it's implied that they hate doing the dancing. a wage gap isn't an action or something that one actively/physcially does. so, comparing the two makes no sense. i'm sure there's a middle-aged writer out there who really thought he did something with this line, too.
Especially since one has repeatedly been proven to not exist here anymore 😂
Bring up how "oppressed" you are even when it's not relevant, pretty accurate to a modern feminists in my opinion. 🤷
Nah bro that P and V scene is also insanely outta pocket
@@ohelloandiShe means she hates the concept I thought we all understood that
Latoya really got the short end of the stick through held the movie. Has one good night, gets the most awkward conversation ever, then gets bailed on and left with the check. Comes back and gets rejected to prom.
In my head after Ben yells at Mandy he runs back to Latoya and apologizes
I wanted to see Mandy to talk to Latoya, I thought she would after Ben got mad at her
@@tfola3586 yea but Mandy’s kinda self centered
@@bonitakourtney8544 yes I know, I thought talking to Latoya would be a good start for her redeeming arc but instead Latoya forgave Ben just by him saying I want to kiss her now is bit sudden
@@Okaybutwhytho that’s what I was hoping would happen.
Okay I’m genuinely shocked they made a recurring sex joke in a disney movie lmao, disney’s going places thats for sure. The right places, that’s debateable.
watch anything made by nickelodeon in the mid 2000s, or anything by disney from the early 2000s. lmao i didn’t realize we were turning puritanical again and shielding healthy “sex” education from people
@@sybill123ful bro nick never made jokes about putting p's in v's 💀
@@mcflurry2061 that line isn't in the broadcast cut of the movie disney+ carries the uncensored version of the film. The Disney+ version has a 14 rating while the broadcast version has a PG raiting and many scenes are either cut or redubbed
@Baylor Diamond really? That's interesting to know, 2 versions of the film.
Yeah, It doesn’t even seem like a Disney channel movie. has woke agenda, feminism, political ideologies, sex jokes, underage drinking and drugs. There is absolutely no way this is disney channel, it cant be!!! But then again my disney channel days were during thats so raven zack and cody wizards of waverly place Halloween town, ect. So I guess its just a different generation however no way in hell when i have children will i allow my kids to watch this new “disney channel” . Its a shame what kids are watching now.
At least the best friends stayed platonic by the end, which is a great way to subvert expectations. There should be more guy/girl friendships on screen!
There is ducky and whatever Molly Ringwalds character was called. And whatever you think of that movie at least kissing booth had a decent platonic relationship too. Agreed though! Normalize heterosexual friendship!
Listening to this girl complaining about the patriarchy nonstop is annoying just in this little video. Imagine having to live with this girl in reality. It would be headache inducing
@DontReadMyUserPic Okay, I won't
@Rossm3838 Avoid people like that in real life to trust me they are annoying.
Exactly, 100 percent agree.
7:45 there is NO WAY someone wrote that as a line and thought it was a good idea. I felt my stomach come out of my mouth after hearing that 😂
I don't think I've ever hated a character more than I hate Mandy. Her judgmental, SJW, "I'm not like other girls" personality is beyond unbearable.
Velma would like to have a word
I bet that's why Harvard didn't want her lmaoo
Oh thank goodness, it's not just me
Are we still using SJW as an insult after 2016?
Thank you, my friend and I watched this movie and thought she was completely insufferable. 😭
as a feminist and a woman, this was an excruciating watch
Agreed!
Honestly this is what modern feminism has become. It’s why I can’t identity with the modern feminist movement, even as a woman in a prestigious career. It’s way too extreme nowadays.
@@crimson_auror literally no one is like this. this is how you know it was written by old men
@@crimson_auror you only find “feminist” like these in podcasts that most likely are just paid actors to be there
@@crimson_auror 😂and I’m here literally hate feminism because their stupid ass want equality and cares for everyone.
The kid who played Graham is named Blake Draper. I went to Primary school with him and he was in my year level. He's a fairly new actor to the game. So I almost had a mini heart attack when i saw his face pop up on my screen. This is the weirdest feeling watching someone i know act in a movie.
That’s awesome!
must be scary 😮
@@joshuagagba1783 not scary just weird
That's cool asf bro
Wow
I feel like Mandy is the type of person that says, "I'm not like the other girls"
Apparently they changed out some of the scenes when they played the movie on Disney Channel. So the P in V thing didn't happen on the channel. But Disney+ is more "scandalous"
Ohhhh that makes sense.
That explains a lot.
Did they include the drinking?
@@vascanj When I watched on demand, the drinking was included, but not the p in v thing, so im guessing it was in the airing on the channel
@@GtheBumbleBee_ i bet you even if he did have s€x he would probably be made fun of 💀
The minute Mandy started talking about how Prom-posals are stupid, even if I never went to my prom, HATED the idea of it, let people have fun. Quit being a sourpuss my gods.
Not gonna lie it sounds stupid the fact we found an abbreviation for such a question most took for granted anyway
Prom-posals are stupid thought. About the same cringe level as public proposals. And dont take me wrong here, i wont say anything against anyone liking those. I will most possibly shudder and facepalm behind their backs thought.
explain the pfp
@@sweetestaphrodite mine? It's just a picture I had drawn years ago.
Feminists
Ben should've apologized for rejecting LaToya, or even Mandy could've had a girl-to-girl moment with LaToya and explained their prom pact but that they're just friends and she should still go after Ben.
I know, I feel so bad for LaToya
Ben deserves a better BFF tbh
Fr Latoya deserved a better apology and Ben deserved a better friend. But at least Mandy sort of makes up for it and does help him and Latoya get back together again.
I don't know why I got the feeling that Ben actually liked Mandy which is why he doesn't invite LaToya for waffles but idkk
“goodbye epi-pen ben, goodbye maxi pad mandy” 😂😂that got me rolling
It’s crazy the entirety of the events of this movie is “Mandy is a bad friend and emotionally manipulates a guy just for it to be completely pointless”
So basically a worse version of the Diary of a Wimpy Kid movies?
It’s giving “pick me” on Mandy’s part
OK but like how are prom proposals misogynistic and a part of the patriarchy??…. OH WAIT they’re not💀💀
Decided to consider the sociopolitical implications of a "promposal" on a lark. Perhaps the idea is that because there's an expectation of guys asking girls out for prom, Mandy's suggesting that the girls being asked out are seen as prizes to be won over while the guys doing the asking out are having their social standing decided by whether or not they can succeed at finding a partner for the local promenade?...
Obviously though, I think the actual answer is that the writers don't know how to write for a feminist character, and had her spout random buzzwords that don't connect with each other at the start of the movie to showcase her eventual turnaround by the end of the movie.
The only good points about prom was whe she pointed out the way the guys didn't even care enough to do a promposal that was based on their girlfriends liking
It would be great if prom wasn't about going with a date at all.
They are though.
because it's romantic and being romantic is a total girly girl non-feministic move
I would love to see a teen movie navigate themes of "Don't dislike stuff just because it's popular", and "don't waste your teen years judging everyone else", and of course "getting into your dream college is not actually the be-all-end-all". If only this movie had explored any of that.
Exactly! I wish they explored Ben's worries that he wasted his high school years judging everyone else and acting like he's better than anyone else!
legally blonde>>>>
Book smart. You're looking for the movie book smart.
12:36 Where's the vacuum grandma?
the whole "woke" female main character trope is getting very annoying to me. It's in every teen movie these days. They're important topics but like there is literally NO NEED in a disney prom movie
Very true. It’s lazy and annoying and completely unnecessary in a kids movie
And like no one actually speaks like this. No feminist brings these topics up unless they are relevant. And Mandy's whole "I'm not like the other girls" is very non-feminist as well. There are so many ways to be a woman and none of them are wrong. But Hollywood is really bad at representation and Disney is no exception
I believe it's a scheme to make us hate all that ¨woke liberal bs¨, y´know most of these movies are made and produced by wealthy people who don't benefit from wokeness at all, they're just trying to capitalize on what's trending with the ¨youth¨.
F-U
Woke is overused
Mandy is actually a very realistic pick me girl. She hates anything to do with what others are involved in until she finds out she likes it, and then it’s not a big deal. She’s a “feminist” who doesn’t know how to use a power tool and hates most things guys do until she likes a guy and then it’s not a big deal anymore 😂
Edit: y’all are still arguing on my post oh my gosh 😂💀
“A feminist that doesn’t know how to use a power tool” and so??? what’s the point of you pointing that out cuz it doesn’t have correlation whatsoever.. you can be a feminist without knowing how those tools work
@@tofusuns896 I guess I mean that most modern feminists talk down to men and treat them as less but they don’t know how to do a lot of basic things that are typically “manly” like using power tools. By typically, I mean statistically. And by “modern” I mean the ones of today. Feminism wasn’t about hating on men back then, that’s why I put the word in quotations. Because the “feminists” I see today are basically just whiny brats who hate men
@@kelseybaloney4984 And how many "feminists" have you actually met then? Because I can tell you that it still isn't about "hating men" unless you delve into places like the manosphere.
Do a lot of modern men know how to use/typical "manly stuff" either? Do they need to? What are the statistics on that?
@@tofusuns896 No.... "a 'feminist' who doesn't know how to use a power tool." Just saying, if you're going to use quotation marks, please make sure you recognize where they're located in your quotes.
THANK YOU! This is an actual pick me girl, not a girl who taps into her own personal brand of femininity.
Finally, the childhood best friends could be best friends and not become romantically involved!!
Gonna give credits where credits due🙌
@@angelinebena9675 VERY FEW credits but we gotta give them indeed
YOU GOTTA PUT SOME- that line was unhinged, disgusting, and very uncomfortable to watch on my end when the kids I was babysitting for wanted to watch this. If it’s rated pg and on Disney+ KIDS I would expect better.
I...this is a Disney movie? Acknowledging sex and drinking and having nicknames like "no nuts" the meaning of which is definitely ambiguously sexual until they explain...
This is a DCOM?
It is also on Disney + but more mature
It’s a Disney+ original. Not a DCOM. This movie premiered on Disney Channel a day before but was highly edited.
@@pcsout I watched both versions on Disney channel and on Disney +
@@pcsout ohh that makes sense. because no way this would pass the disney channel guidelines lolll
@@pcsout oooh okay thats good I know parents would've lost it otherwise.
If the Mandela Effect thing is real, I wanna go back to the dimension where they weren’t just OPENLY TALKING ABOUT HOOKING UP WITH PEOPLE ON THE DISNEY CHANNEL?!
Well, is not like kids actually watch tv this day
who cares 😭 it’s for teenagers
this version is available on disney+ and is rated tv-14. The censored version is available on the ACTUAL disney channel
@@baggiestsheet2584 that seems like a really good strategy
To all the younglings on here: don't worry if your high school days haven't been the best. There is nothing sadder than being an adult who peaked in high school. I've met grown ass people who talk about nothing but their teenage years because it's been nothing but downhill since then for them, and that's honestly depressing. You got plenty of time (and much more freedom) to live your best life once school is over! I spent most of high school stressing because I wasn't doing all the cool things I saw teens do on TV, and was convinced that once school was over I'd be condemned to 50+ years of boring adult work and no play. My uni years weren't all that exciting, either. Wasn't until after I landed my first job that things really picked up! Financial independence; my own place; a new social network of colleagues; personal freedom! I'm in my late 30s and whenever my young nieces and nephews fret over school woes I assure them that while their education is important, school life itself is no indicator of social worth, and that they're gonna get the best out of life once they go out into the world.
literally, my life got so much better once I graduated
Yes, when I was in high school I was sad I missed out on “typical” teen shenanigans. But now in my twenties I don’t even think about what I missed as a teen, because instead of sneaking out to go drink at a party, I am now traveling the world, which I personally think is more fun. So don’t fret about not having the crazy high school experiences teens, it gets so much better as an adult.
In my 40’s and yes to this
Yup!! Highschool is so nothing compared to the rest of your life. 20s are way better.
I second this. I'm in my 30s and life only got better once I left high school, even if it was a slow build.
12:34 They're kissing! They are kissing! Where's the vacuuming grandma? Alex?
8:45 summed it up, she hates the system and patriarchy but still wants all the benefits of it by a top school, its nepotism, complain for the sake of it but not actually a standard other than double standards
i think this movie is quite better than most disney movies because they kept a platonic relationship platonic without making one of them gay .
Agreed, Disney has a habit of pairing their leads together, so it's great to see them subvert expectations.
@@trinaq Please do not ever say "subvert expectations" again I had flashbacks of Arya Stark stabbing the night king just by reading it😪
Fr these days the main characters get together or one is over the top high voice always wearing a long tacky librarian skirt gay. Idc if ur gay or whatnot but Disney’s always trying to be woke 😭
that second part is literally irrelevant to anything, no idea why you had to sneak that in there
@@cherryleehartley1661 not really,Disney has a history of doing it sometimes,I don’t have anything wrong with it in my opinion it’s good rep but like at the same time it gets predictable slash repetitive to the point where it doesn’t seem genuine and it makes it seem more like they just snuck it in there to seem/feel good about themselves
From how this looks I feel like this ending is pretty sweet and I especially love how Ben isn't secretly in love with Mandy and they really are just friends. As a girl whose three closest friends include a guy who's not in love with any of the rest of us at all it's really nice to see friendships being appreciated and not dismissed like they usually are. The one complaint I have is that Mindy seems INSUFFERABLE.
mandy doesn't deserve that harvard application
My headcanon is that they made Mandy annoying on purpose so that she could go through character development
I love that fact that Milo goes to a 80's themed prom. Then he plays a kid who died in the 80's 😂
Right lol
I went to prom with my best friend. We are both women, and we had so much fun. No romantic vibes or pressure.
Looking back I wish I had too. It was a huge waste to bring my then bf.
@Teresa Howick To this day I get asked why I didn't go with a guy. I didn't think it was a big deal and still don't because I had fun.
@@chaosspy6723 I knew plenty of guys that went to prom with their guy friends too. I feel like both boys and girls have more fun and it’s less pressure when you go with friends
@Addicted To Success yea I support this because one of my friends went with her bf, and he was grumpy the whole time. Meanwhile, we were having a function.
Same, we had the best time 🎉
11:00 I hate the fact that I predicted her reply several seconds before the guy even got up.
Mandy's entire character is the definition of counter-productive
The Disney Channel and Disney+ version of this movie are different. The movie reviewed in this video is the Disney+ version.
What I wonder is why do they have to edit it at all? You don't expect Disney to make films with references to fornication in them and yet they made one. It's a little weird that they decided to even slap their name on the film at all.
Surprised that Mandy and Graham actually kissed half way through the movie instead of the usual fake out kiss then it finally happens at the end lmao
the "P in a V" is insane for a Disney Channel movie💀
Its not a Disney Channel movie, its Dismey Plus and when they aired it on Disney channel it was a censored version
I’m scared
Atleast they perfectly portrait the platonic relationship... We need more movies that has boy and girl relationship that is pure platonic.
i agree
yeah it was nice but at the same time it was a shit friendship 'cause Mandy wouldn't stop being selfish for most of it
@@supanova- actually hahaha Mandy is so annoying. But atleast the ML didn't develop a feelings towards her. 🤣
@@tinyrhizgoesto true they need at least one win I guess😆
9:51 she’s really giving off bella swan vibes with those expressions
So Disney Channel is now making TV-14 movies, but they cancelled The Owl House for "not fitting the child brand."
Exactly. It doesn't make any sense.
That was just an excuse. They nixed it because animation costs money, and Disney plus is already losing billions a year.
The movie was originally supposed to be released in theaters before they changed their mind for some reason. Just by looking at the style of the movie, it looks like it was made for theaters.
The owl house is so good too. The final episode just aired on April 7th ugh.
Bingo.
Look, I'm a feminist vegetarian, but DEAR LORD if I had to listen to Mandy talk for one more minute I was going to explore 😭
Also, the fact she was volunteering just because it looked good on her application 💀
very important question are you one of them lizard people who has a big burning hatred for men?
As a feminist vegetarian... nothing wrong with volunteering because it looks good on an application, that's normal af xD
Volunteering cuz it looks good on your application is a normal thing you know
That’s like the reason 90% of people volunteer
@craigyeah1052 bro it actually is the worst… a teen in my town started a “nonprofit” to “help the homeless” but she literally just took photos with homeless people on one food run and then her parents hired people to run it.
I can kinda relate to Ben. I was the "emo, anti- anything popular, class skipping, everything & everyone is lame" and near end of highschool I realized how immature & shitty I was purposely making school for myself.
I can relate to that too😢
@@angelinebena9675 yeah same it sucks i peaked in middle school and im doing better im hugh school
Mandy's friend 5 years from now will be like, "Why was I ever friends with her?"
Also, remember that joke about how Disney always clones their tv stars? Mandy straight up looks like a Demi Lavato mixed with Brenda Song clone, and Grahm looks like one of the Zack and Cody twins mixed with Zac Efron clone.
I thought she looked like Maia Mitchell
Like a lot of comments, the sex joke and underage drinking in a Disney movie totally shocked me 😂
in hocus pocus the main plot of the movie was finding a kid that’s a virgin, and they harped on how important it was to find a pure virgin, and made jokes about the other characters that did have sex. like how are y’all shocked
@@sybill123ful true, guess I forgot about that lol I think because like the video mentions, Disney had this shift to like really childish movies for awhile there.
@@sybill123ful Thank you for bringing up one specific movie, but I think most people who watched Disney shows/dcom‘s can say shows like dog with a blog and good luck Charlie did not make “P in V” jokes. Which is what was surprising
Good luck charlie had plenty of sex jokes
The one thing Disney channel did stick to was their trend of tricking us into believing that getting into these Ivy League and top level colleges is easy. Like Hannah Montana: Stanford, teddy Duncan: Yale, KC Cooper: Stanford (while being a teenage spy) and now Mandy and Harvard
Like Disney wtf
I agree except KC got a perfect score on the SAT. Crazy I know, but she was canonically a genius - perfect even. The others were out of nowhere sometimes.
@@melodi2036 I got a perfect score on the SAT, but didn't get accepted into Stanford or Yale.
It's apparently because there's like a rule that you cant make bad ad of a school so you need to use one of the top ivy league schools in your film and show how the characters get in and that's why everyone is always going to Harvard and whatnot
As a non-american there was a time I thought these are the only schools in the country and I had so many questions...........
@@spntageous5249 They a re most definitely not, but telling kids that they can get an AA degree at a local community college for a fraction of the cost would mean those super expensive universities won't pay Disney for advertising in their movies anymore.
11:06 "What the heck is wrong with this thing? It doesn't even work"
"oh you're doing it wrong, let me show you"
"Do Not Approach me Satan!!!"
Y'all I'm dying
SAME 🤣🤣
9:08 I'm gonna assume this is gonna be the justification to brush aside any bad thing she does as if it wasn't bad. I can already tell this movie sucks.
Honestly, I didn’t think it would be possible for Peyton Elizabeth-Lee to play a absolutely unlikable, intolerant character, but wow, this movie was a MASSIVE exception.
That's what I'm saying! Never in my life did I think I'd hate a character Peyton played THIS MUCH
She’s actually quite pleasant in real life. I worked on some sets for Doogie Kamealoha with her (I was an extra).
@Shadbraw Bro, you were an extra? That's epic!!
And I'm sure Peyton is nice, I just didn't expect the character she acted to be so unlikable at parts. Great actress all around tho
@@caramel_frappe oh yeah. The fact she’s nice irl and can play someone as unlikeable as Mandy speaks to her acting ability.
And yeah I’m an extra in Season 2 of Doogie Kamealoha. (:
I mean, Andi got annoying too on Andi Mack. Sometimes Andi was likeable, and sometimes she was really full of herself. The writing on that show went really back and forth between being good and bad.
At this point Disney is just trying to make me hate them. Every girl character now is so quirky and basically shames anyone who goes out and parties and things like that. The Mandy girl criticizes EVERYTHING that’s not Harvard or school related. Can we just have a like yk… a movie when the girl isn’t a complete and total pick me…?
Not just Disney it every iteration of girlboss movies/shows
The female ghost busters ❌
Star Wars with rey ❌
Velma ❌
@@duckymomo7935 starwars was owned by disney before they had Rey
@@duckymomo7935Thankfully, The Owl House is a good exception. The couple in the movie, Luz and Amity, are both very strong female leads, with Luz leaning more towards genderqueer.
Basically, both characters are not pick me’s because they are just strong as hell, they don’t need to be focused on it at all.
@@duckymomo7935What’s wrong with Rey?
15:02 why did feel that so much?!?!? WHY!?
Literally just sends the message that all these "angry women" need is a man to treat her right and she'll forget all this nonsense about mistreatment and double standards. But if they REALLY cared they would treat the "good guys" better.
I went to my prom in the actual 80's. Lots of big hair, poofy dresses, skinny neon ties, and shoulder pads. My prom pictures are...a bit frightening.
12:02 did anyone else notice it took like three whole seconds for the ball she threw to get to him?
It’s cuz Alex edited it to a different part of the movie a few seconds later
"p in the v" what the HELL lmfao i'm so taken aback 2005-2010 disney era would NEVER
I’m an English major going on my 4th year of college and I have learned how to and how not to write characters. One of the most important things I was taught is how to observe people. They told me stories who don’t seem realistic don’t get published, but so many teenage movies/shows are so awkward and unrealistic lol
I love how the "quirky smartest girl ever" never ever has a backup plan in these movies. So smart indeed.
16:39 My least favourite modern movie trope is scenes written by 40+ year olds in which _kids these days_ record their classmates (in extremely high quality) having plot relevant arguments and it "goes viral" in the school, revealing sHocKiNg information to another character. Are we sure that this movie didn't accidentally come out on the wrong platform?
That was literally my thought! Like why do they always spill everything in public where someone happens to film them
Hey! Take it easy on us 40 year olds! Believe me Niamh....I was just living my life...and them boom! One day I was 15. I kept on living my life and then five seconds later I was 25! Went on living life again and now boom! 3 seconds after being 25, I am now almost 40. I don't know how it happened! Yesterday I was 15!......But, seriously all jokes aside okay? I know I have no idea what is cool and what isn't. The 40+ Year olds need to actually talk to some kids about the lingo and the actions that are going on right now. Just remember though. You too are going to be just bopping along living your life and one day "5 seconds are going to pass" and you are going to be 40 as well. Take it easy on us. We arn't young - we know that but, we also arn't "old" - even though 40 seems old to you. We are doing our best to not wear Forever 21 but we arn't ready for the granny moomoo yet either. Middle age is rough and from what I hear it only gets worse from here on in. Take pity on us!
@@Lucailey Hehe:). I don't consider 40 to be "old" yet either, I just typed that because people in their 30's are more likely to have grown up around the time when mobile phones were becoming common and therefore understand what kind of scenes involving phones are farfetched.
I never thought I would ever hear a sex joke in a disney movie what is lifeee
@15:51 Risky Business? I barely remember that movie. Tom Cruise in Legend is the jam but I feel most 80s girls liked Labyrinth, Princess Bride or Neverending Story
I’m a high schooler and irl nobody gives a shit about prom. School dances aren’t even as big of a deal as Disney and Nickelodeon make it out to be.
Thank goodness. I've always thought prom culture in movies are overrated and overdone. Such a cliche now.
It's impressive too that every Disney movie high schooler does tend to go to Ivy League school. Not perpetuating stereotypes of prestige at all
14:32 woah. she’s really pretty
That's just sad. "P" in a "v" in a 'kids' movie. Always in a rush to make kids grow up/bring perversion in as young as possible. What happened to just letting kids be kids? Disney has gone so far downhill; it's worse than you know.
The real victim in that movie was the friend he lost his opportunity with a cutie
They get together at the end. Why she forgave him over and over idk.
Nah, it was the girl who kept giving his dumbass a chance. I mean, he’s cute but girl have some self respect.
The minute he said your P in a V I had to say the same thing--IN A DISNEY CHANNEL MOVIE?!?!?!
I’m so glad to see other people acknowledge how insufferable the main character was. I thought I was alone for a second! I was really glad to see a platonic friendship though that was very refreshing.
Oh gosh the "Get laid in HS, or you're a nerd," trope. I'm pretty sure everyone knows not having sex in highschool is normal, and the people that talked the most about sex either didn't have any themselves.
At 14:50 , I literally don't think I've ever laughed harder at an Alex Meyers video. The sounds of Alex just dying of cringe/2nd hand embarrassment is so freaking funny🤣😂
Wow, Ben gets a really raw deal in this story, pushes his life to the side to help his friend achieve her goals, screwing up his chances with the girl he likes, and doesn't even get anything to make up for it in the end, just to find out that the entire scheme was unnecessary the entire time.
Can I just say Alex’s reaction at 14:55 is the most realistic way I react to secondhand embarrassment during movies/shows
The cringe at that awkward silence is overwhelming lol.
Oh my gosh same. I literally cover my face or ears or both because I'm like no it's so awkward I CAN'T -what are you DOING??!!
"BEN, WHAT'RE DOING BEN NOOO, STOP. AHHHH!" Bro I can't breeeeathe 😂
Disney really doesn't have any idea who their audience is
3:46 that has got to hurt
Since when has disney channel been this mature? The last time I've seen disney we couldn't even see the actors kiss on screen.
Have you missed recent developments? Celebrating the sexuality of children. Running LGBT events at Disneyland.. it's kids, dude, they don't understand their sexual orientation.
@@grafandokids very much understand their sexual orientation. They also start to identify with a certain gender between 2-3 years old. Also, just because someone is gay doesn’t mean they’re more “sexual”. Two boys holding hands is not sexual, any more than a boy and girl holding hands is sexual. It’s wholesome.
10:16 That's some sociopathic behavior from her...
As someone who never had a prom because of covid and also never had any dream school and just picked a random one.... the concepts of these movies are always so TIRED lol
5:17 disney turning into a 15+ 💀💀💀
4:18 the moment I heard this i sighed, i'm a female and even I know this is bs
Disney channels whole thing is that they trade their character tolerance for smart and independent
The fact that you referenced “Heathers”!!!! I love that movie so much! Please do a video on it!
5:22 I said the exact same sentence☠
It was obvious from the beginning that Mandy was always going to "learn a lesson," but did they have to make her so insufferably self-centered? I mean, after she gets weight-listed she storms into her guidance counselor's office and throws the kid sitting there out as if whatever his problem was isn't important. That being said, this movie was better than I expected...
I am FASCINATED that this is a Disney movie.