The small flip stops for the rods of the 'drill press' are meant to be installed the other way, so their block rides on the surface and the flip stop is on the outside. You can set both on at two different distances so you can drill one hole, at the first, closer stop, flip the swing up, slide the press over and drill using the second stop. So you can reproduce that pairing distance again and again on multiple boards.
At 5:30 - "I wish this roller was a little bit lower". It seems to me that that roller is also angled, as noted for the other roller guide. However, where the other roller will pull the workpiece towards the fence (good), this edge roller guide will tend to lift the edge of the work piece (bad). It's not doing that on the vid, because it's not low enough to be rolling on the workpiece, but if the workpiece was thicker, that's what would happen.
Hey David, that saw track is made for a stone cutting or metal cutting saw. Shouldn't have been in the woodworking section. Love this series and the podcast. ✌️
I don't see any problems using it for wood. My saw guide doesn't have a place for a saw, so the saw runs beside it. David's could be used that way as well.
One of the most cleaver, smart, creative an original videos I have seen so far on all these years on youtube, besides it is very illustrative, useful and saves u a lot of money , for me, a total winner video creator
@@rattslayer No guarantees that the folks taking the photos actually know how to use the items. 🤷♂️ I'm more into electronics than woodworking and seen plenty of pics of soldering gear where that was painfully obvious (as in they'd have experienced serious pain if it had been on, they way they were holding/using it ..)
You can not use theee either way, they are angled and only roll one direction! (Or the jessem ones that these are ripping off only roll one direction!) either way, the angle of the rollers only work on the fence in their correct position.
On your recommendation I purchased the mitre Guage from Banggood. It arrived within 8 days to UK. I must say that you did not over-sell it when you reviewed it. I am delighted with the quality. Yes there are bells and whistles on market leading gauges but for the price I say it can't be beaten. I too recommend the Guage. The only query I have about the transaction is that I accessed Banggood using a browser. When I put the item into my basket I was prompted to complete using the app. So I installed it and continued to checkout. The price of the item went from £79 to £118! I uninstalled the app and completed the purchase for £79. I am not sure what was going on but it is worth watching out for it. The app did flash up a discount voucher, so whether that would have reduced the price back to £79 I can't say. Love the channel. Thank you for the help. 🌟
the "roller things" work VERY well on the table saw. you install them both on the top of the fence. jessem calls them "stock guides". 10/10 product would definitely recommend.
My jaw dropped when I saw the red knockoff of the Jessem roller guides. They are intended for use on the router table fence, one on each side of the bit. The Jessem ones are great! Jessem has different guides for a table saw.
@@chuckgrumble5440 Yep... I have a set of the Jessem ones for my table saw and the router table. I put one before and after the bit/blade to help keep things sucked over to the fence. They work incredibly well, and I highly recommend them.
You can replace those black plastic on the front of the miter gauge. You can replace the running tract, so that means you can make the tract any length you want
I have bought a number of items through Banggood over the last few years. I have never been disappointed with the quality of their tools. But I would recommend that you read their ads VERY carefully. I have had a few surprises where I thought that I was buying a set of five and actually only got one. They seem to be using the "read the fine print" rule on some of their ads. Plus there are often optional sizes colours etc. Just don't speed through to checkout, and read all of the specs etc and you should be good to go.
All of the woodworking tools I have purchased from BangGood have been of exceptional quality. I did follow Dennis from H.O.W. for recommendations in the beginning but placed other orders for items he did not review that in my eye looked well made and have not been disappointed with any of them. That router lift looks outstanding as well as their miter gauges and track saw parallel guides, fences, spiral carbide router bits and the drawer hardware mounting jig. Hongdui, Ganwei, Wnew, Drill Pro, Veiko and even some of the no name solid stainless steel squares are top quality. Keep an eye on their prices and you can get some super bargains,
Came here to say the same. The Dowling jig that was on backorder was recently reviewed by Dennis too, I got one before they went out of stock an dit is absolutely exceptional quality!
I love my hongdui chamfer plane it feels high quality and so convenient and useful to not always have to get the trim router out. And it’s more consistent than holding a block plane at an angle. Got it from Dennis recommendation.
I think you may have been using the first tool, the router guides wrong. One is an in feed and the other an out feed, both should be on your fence. I have the Jessem guides installed that way and they work great.
I think for the vertical drill guide you're supposed to mount the little stops the other way around so the flat part rests on your material and keeps it level. Then the flip will probably be easier to ... erm, flip. It's not THAT much better and will only make a difference if the un-stopped hole you need to drill is further away from the edge, but it's not AS bad a design as it might appear.
Using both stops you could quickly and repeatedly drill holes at the corners of boards without measuring each hole. It looks like a really nice drill guide. First impressions is I'd rather have this one than the Rockler because of the extra functionality.
@@MrErViLi It actually should have at least 6 little stops, with at least one for each of the rods and the large one for the back two rods. With more stops, the more repeatable holes without measuring.
I have this drill guide. BAD! It is a real hazzle to drill straight so if accurate zero degree deviation is important for the outcome of your work quality - don’t buy! The chuck attachment is really!! poor quality (buy a better bearing?.. without excessive play and swap (if possible)) I have many more tools from Bangood. All have exquisitely high quality! This one not. Kind regards Anders Sweden
I have been buying stuff from Banggood for over 12 years, and have never had a bad product, or an issue of any kind. They are legit, and well worth shopping. Cheers from Winnipeg.
Placed an order a month ago. My credit card was promptly changed, it is now August 5th, have not received the order. How can they charge so little? they don't ship the merchandise.
On the drill guide/press you need to register the flat side of the guide on the surface of the work piece. Then the guide can flip down. Also you had it backwards. Flip should be on the outside edge.
I really appreciate these budget tool reviews. I watch den of tools, and he talks about how this tool is good this tool is bad, but I've learned that his opinion of good tools, and my opinion of good tools, is not the same.
If you haven't figured it by now, most of the tools on Banggood are variations, or clones, of other more expensive brands. The drill guide is a clone of the Woodpecker drill guide. The roller guides are clones of the ones made by Jess'em. I have purchased some items from Banggood before, and have been pleasantly surprised by the quality. I just received the MoHoo Honing guide which is a clone of the Woodpecker honing guide. As for the Miter Gauge, Hooked On Wood, ep 11, reviewed the same miter gauge, and he demonstrates on how to make box joints on the table saw using that miter gauge set up. For anybody that's interested in the fence, but do not want to buy another miter gauge, you can buy the fence separately.
I have that exact same drill guide. Ive use it to build my MFT table and it worked well when using my Stanley cordless drill, but when I used my Makita impact driver on it, the hex shaft broke, lol.
Many of us have purchased from Banggood. The only issue is if you have to return a product, that can be a pain is the ass. If you get a product and it works, then I have found that you are good to go Thanks David, that was a GREAT video! !! !!!
One of the 1st woodworking/project videos I watched on RUclips had a guy who was building kitchen cabinets for his wife(I assume.?), Then the guy went to build a work bench to hold his jobsite table saw, and then he built a nice Miter Station for his Miter Saw. He used pocket holes everywhere, on everything, and he never once used a pocket hole jig. Not once. It 2.5yrs ago, as was returning to the hobby. While I was watching this gifted craftsman, who wore sandals while he worked, "I thought to myself, wow, it would be cool if someone made fixture so that other people who hadn't done it a million and a half times could work with this level of precision."
I have bought lots of Banggood tools, and never been disappointed. The quality is pretty good and they get the job done pretty well. They used to do an even better quality mitre gauge which I purchased along with the box joint jig, it helped take my woodworking up a level or two.
I was also looking it at it - wish I could post a picture - but if your board actually touched the wheels on the side one, it would have raised it up off the table!!
I always want instructions too, David. I've ordered a few of your shirts over the years and not one of them came with instructions. Don't worry, I figured them out.
Glad to hear that you had a good experience with Banggood. I ordered a quadcopter from them about 6-7 years ago. I had never heard of them, but took a gamble. Very impressed with the quality, price, and their service. I think delivery was about 3 weeks. They sent a European-style charger by mistake, so I emailed them, and had a USA adapter in about a week.
I bought the miter gauge for 50$ when it was on offer (there's always some merchant that has it on offer more or less). It didn't have the fence but it's not 100% necessary. The quality is really good.
If you had bought the mini chain saw, you would understand why they have so many... I had a friend convince me to get one, and WOW, small, battery operated, and truly amazing for cutting branches and such. You can whip it out and trim what you need.. VASTLY easier than digging out your big chainsaw, and there are SO many things you can use it for... Trees, shrubs, trimming wood pieces... shaping things etc.. I have a 6" chain, and it can cut through a branch that size without any issues.. and it keeps on cutting well.. Just one o f those really really good tools..
Ive used Banggood in the past and always been impressed with their gear. Have got pipe clamps and squares and they are both well made and far cheaper. Just bought the cheaper router lift for my Makita too so fingers crossed that will be good as well.
Those stock guides both go on the fence. I got the JessEm ones. They work well to keep the piece down and into the fence, as well as preventing kickback with one-way wheels. Definitely a worthwhile thing to have at the router table! Always enjoy your videos!
That makes way more sense considering the identically angled wheels. A pair of these on the fence (plus maybe a featherboard on the table?) would keep everything super secure.
I have the same Incra lift and found that a long Allen hex bit in a super cheap cordless drill makes for a WAY faster and convenient height adjuster than the provided tool.
I was considering buying a UJK router lift a couple of years ago, but ended up buying a Triton MOF001 router (also sold as CMT brand), that pretty much has it built-in. The router even comes with a winding handle and a starter pin, the only thing required is a mountin plate. The online shop I bought the router from also sold a mounting plate from Rockler, that is specifically designed for the Triton routers. Triton makes bit collets in all the standard sizes from 6mm to 1/2" (6, 8, 12mm / 1/4", 1/2"). As I bought it in Denmark, it came with 6 an 8mm collets, and I bought the 12mm and 1/2" ones off Amazon. But the best thing about the Triton is that it is insanely easy to change the bits. When the power switch is off, the collet can be raised so high that the collet is above the table, and the spindle locks automaticly in the top position, so all it takes is a single 24mm wrench to loosen and tightening the collet. Only minus is the adapter plate in the Rockler mounting plate, it is quite flimsy plastic. I plan to make one from aluminium, but hasn't gotten around to it yet.
The stock guides you demonstrated should really only go on the fence. Just place one for in-feed and the other as an out-feed. I also have the WNew router lift which I mounted in a Kreg router table top. The Harbor Freight Drill Master router fits the 88.9 mm adapter ring perfectly and is very reasonably priced.
I noticed on your router roller guides you had one of them set up incorrectly. Both go on the fence and are design for the roller to spin on one direction only to prevent kickback. I have the Jess-Um version of these. (notice the arrow on the guide for direction of wood)
I have been using a chainsaw as a wood working tool for almost the past 60-years. First and still as a carving tool. I carved Totems and Tikis for commercial and residential landscape installations. Then I used them for other sculptural art work and construction projects. OK! Great help...👍👍 I'm buying everything featured on this vid.
I skipped over this video a few time because of the title. I am glad I watched it for one main reason. I seen their site but the prices are so low I was worried it was a scam. I will revisit it now. As far as the lift goes, that’s almost the same price as the Kreg that I have. I would never chance the quality and support a big company gives me for a few dollars. And I have had some amazing experiences with Kreg and Earlex to name a couple.
It's all about "value" for the money. For those of us that are not rich, Banggood has some great stuff. Their T-Track and miter track selection is amazing and half the price.
The thing about the track for the saw is that it is for a saw for stone, not wood, they are smaller and waaay faster, so they basically just burn the wood. I leave in Brazil and these other saws are cheaper, so people sometimes buy them thinking they are for woodworking, but they are not. Now you know
Check out the channel, hooked on wood. He reviews these china tools. I’ve bought on his recommendations and not been disappointed. Especially the price difference, that can save you hundreds
Those track saws are usually cordless with 85mm dia blades, max sheet thickness 26mm. Spent this week learning about them. Most only cut 90 degrees, no tilt. They are for cutting sheet stock smaller.
That one is supposed to be used with a 4" tile saw, the item listing literally called "marble machine guide rail" and in the specifications table, it had "4Inch Aluminum Base". But people usually ignore the table and jump to the pictures, I guess.
@@DalekZhang The Ryobi cordless multi material has timber, plastic/ tile blades. 85mm dia. Bigger 140-165mm cordless track saws have side tilt for angle cuts. Both are depth cut adjustable. Anyone make CNC sheet cutter? Cut those 4x8 foot sheets into router/laser sizes?
I have the same miter gauge but with an aluminum handle. I bought mine without a fence then ordered a longer fence with a tape measure and a stop. I use it all the time and am very happy with it.
The track saw track kit. I watch a few Japanese and Korean wood working channels and they seem to use the smaller skill saw for most things. Tile included. Prob because it's easier to get higher rpm.
I have that miter and it works well. I have a track system from Eureka Zone and it is fantastic. Fits any saw, has renewable edges, has router base and it is made in America (Florida)
I have bought several items from Banggood and cannot complain. My favorite are the Vieko right-angle clamping (in the faux Woodpeckers anodized red). I also recommend the ratching and f-style clamps. Great video and I am looking forward to getting some feed guides based on your review.
Really enjoyed this - I've looked at Banggood before, but didn't know what the quality was going to be overall. I'll definitely have to grab the router lift. I've been wanting one for awhile, but didn't want to pay $400+.
I haven’t watched in a bit and man your shop is looking cool af. The lighting and camera work is noticeably richer as well. Mind sharing lens and camera used?
I agree with your ranking. I have the same miter gauge, but I think you have the 2 plastic pieces in the wrong order if you get the box joint jig for it. Mine wasn't square enough out of the box. I used 5 cut method to calibrate it. The tip goes into the protractor was bent slightly and not seating all the way in' I filed it a little bit to fit better. The router lift is great, but it's not cheaper than Jessem Rout-R-Lift II with similar material and construction. It would kill the jessem one if it was $199. Roller feeder is good, and I probalby should get a set. Yes, it's ranked in the middle, but that does not mean it's an average tool. If factoring in the price, I'd put it as #1, and router lift as #3.
So the drill press the little “stops look to me like they might be registers to have equal spacing for say shelf pins. Drill your first hole then flip down the floppy thingy and drill your net repeat. Just a thought
Those "roller things" Jessem makes some of those. The "wheels" on the Jessem guides are made of polyurethane. My Jessems are many years old as in more than five but less than nine. The polyurethane gets old and turns into a sticky paste that is near impossible to remove. The wheels actually turn into paste over time. If you have these or anything made with polyurethane and they ever feel tacky, throw them away then and replace. I used carburetor cleaner which dissolves most things and it would barely touch the mess I had. Remember the paste you used to eat when you were in primary school? Well this stuff is thicker than that when it degenerates and is as sticky as CA glue.
Jeff, having had to replace my O-rings multiple times now, I was looking for some other material to replace these rings. I have a workshop in the southern US and perhaps climate has something to do with the failures. Jessem had no theory nor any apology. The polyU ring's residue cleans right off, for me anyway, with denatured alcohol. Grainger sells a synthetic rubber Buna N (Nitrile) 319 O-ring with a Durometer of 70A (Medium Hard) that is a direct replacement for Jessem's PolyU O-ring's size. The difference is you get 50 rings for 9 bucks vs. Jessem's 4 rings for 10 bucks, plus any shipping. I can attest that these rings work for both, the Jessem router table and table saw stock guides. I cannot, however, attest to longevity yet because I have only had them on for months. But, with 50 of them, I can deal with a failure down the line! Grainger part number is 1KLP8 BUT, having spent over a week dealing with one mislabeled Grainger bag after another, I would highly recommend you ONLY use the Mfr. part number... Mfr. Model U38801.018.0106, hope this helps.
@@pwe-x8q Like you wrote, I got the 4 rings from Jessem through Woodcraft and they were about $21 delivered. Thank you for your incredibly well written and informative comment.
@@jeffstanley4593 You're welcome. I, too, purchased a set from Woodcraft. They are still in their shipping bag and in my office. They will never see the shop. While that newest set was on it's way, I tracked down any seller of the 319 size and Grainger was the best alternative. The BunaN's are great! I figured, from what research I have conducted, that there are more than quite a few people with this issue. Jessem's solution was to take the rings into a "conditioned" space when the guides are not in use. Not happening. Grab a bag of the Graingers and never look back.
Fun video - thanks! Keeping a regular eye on the random discounts on Banggood can save a lot of money on the already good prices for sure, e.g. I've seen the vertical drill holder at a lower price than you paid.
I ran into the same tack saw problems with the bora track set up, the saw mounting plates were not very good infact they were dangerous. I can us the tracks but not the saw plate. So I bought a Bosch System and love it.
I love these buy and try vids immensely! I dabble in both woodworking and home machine shop, and there are tons of RUclips videos in which people have either bought, or been sent by Banggood, various machining tooling. Even if they’ve paid for it, the reviews are typically very good! As far as the drill guide, I’ve used (and cursed) a General brand guide for many years. Even though I was far south of satisfied with it, my dissatisfaction was never great enough to convince me to pay the price for the Rockler! The other week I made my first pilgrimage to the new Rockler store in Charlotte, and after laying my eyes and hands on their version I was dazzled!! Of course I had one when I left the store! The thing is amazing!
I am a snob for name/quality tools but I have bought a few Banggood tools. I is worth looking at what they offer especially if you are just starting out in w/w. Some of the times they fail on the quality of fit and finish, instructions and there are usually no or little video's of them in use anywhere. They also lack good customer service. Plan carefully as to what you want because shipping back to them is on you. All said worth looking at.
Lol, I used to run some of the digital marketing opps (as an external marketeer, had no control of anything on the actual site) for Banggood in the UK. Havnt seen them since i left the marketing industry. Was fun to see them crop up
I'm buying from Banggood for years never had any issues with them, from electronics to woodworking tools, I have that miter gauge and works really good.
the track says its for "stone/plate cutting" maybe that's what you didn't understand? Just a thought. that is sort of an odd looking saw. Keep up the good work it's my first time
Love the video, but wanted to say you are killing it with the square space adds. They are becoming must watch content similar to Steve Ramsey and his micro jig adds. Something to look forward to each video.
d) The "rolling feeders" stand out in Min 5:20 & especially in 5:32. The "horizontal roller" would lift the wood upwards. This means that a right angle is no longer possible. What is required is that the wood is pressed towards the worktop. The orientation is therefore wrong and probably cannot be changed. The fact that the rollers are not lower and do not touch the wood is only relevant afterwards. e) At min 11:37 you can see the miter gauge from the screenshot. The right screw with the black plastic sleeve on the half round angle has a problem with the cutout on the right side of the aluminum profile. If you set a width that requires the screw to be fixed there, you can't use that spot because the screw can't be fixed there. The problem will certainly affect some saws where the distance of the guide groove and the saw blade have the appropriate distance. f) The Miter Gauge you show for $300 is also available at banggood ... for partly 120 or 150 €.
My biggest gripe for the track saw is the fact that it doesn’t register the zero edge which I think is 80% of the benefit over a circular saw and straight edge.
I absolutely would put that track saw towards the end, not because it doesn't fit a regular saw, but that 1\2" gap. For me, thr biggest reason for a track saw is the ability to set in right where you want to cut and take that extra bit of measurement error out. If not for that, i can use a long straight edge and do the same thing as that track
He used the wrong saw, that track is designed for marble cutting saw, it literally says in the ad "marble cutting machine guide". And in the picture he shows on the video you can see the blade closer to the guide.
The solution to the Track saw problem is to make the mods to the Bauer saw to fix the plate, and give the saw and the track to your buddy. He's been excellent.
Hello this concept seems exactly the same as Dennis from hooked on wood does on his china tools series just a little more in depth thanks for the video it was fun got the mitre gauge my self it's were nice
I'm excited to hear about the fancy router. My routers were the only tools that didn't get recovered (I think) from when my storage unit was broken in to, so I'll need to replace them.
We shall see. I have wanted to buy the JessEm 04301 Clear-Cut TS Stock Guides but they are expensive and I have had other needs. After watching this video I purchased the Roller Feeders you demonstrated. I await their arrival.
I noticed that the #1 and #2 items that were the best quality and had a manual included were also distributed by the same company, based on the logos on the front of the manual. So I would wager that other items from said company would also be of comparable quality. I'm interested in what else they offer. Sounds like a good video idea for you to follow-up with!
Dennis over at HookedOnWood does a bunch of China Tools reviews and Wnew generally does good quality. The doweling jig that wa son pre order is also top notch (I have it myself and it's some proper solid quality through and through)
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The small flip stops for the rods of the 'drill press' are meant to be installed the other way, so their block rides on the surface and the flip stop is on the outside. You can set both on at two different distances so you can drill one hole, at the first, closer stop, flip the swing up, slide the press over and drill using the second stop. So you can reproduce that pairing distance again and again on multiple boards.
At 5:30 - "I wish this roller was a little bit lower".
It seems to me that that roller is also angled, as noted for the other roller guide. However, where the other roller will pull the workpiece towards the fence (good), this edge roller guide will tend to lift the edge of the work piece (bad). It's not doing that on the vid, because it's not low enough to be rolling on the workpiece, but if the workpiece was thicker, that's what would happen.
Hey David, that saw track is made for a stone cutting or metal cutting saw. Shouldn't have been in the woodworking section. Love this series and the podcast. ✌️
Yeah, I noticed that. It does actually say on the site what type of saw it was for so not really their fault.
I don't see any problems using it for wood. My saw guide doesn't have a place for a saw, so the saw runs beside it. David's could be used that way as well.
It also had the dimensions of the base plate, so you could have compared those with your saw.
One of the most cleaver, smart, creative an original videos I have seen so far on all these years on youtube, besides it is very illustrative, useful and saves u a lot of money , for me, a total winner video creator
You used the first item the wrong way , both of them should be used on the fence ‘check the arrow direction’ 👍🏼👍🏼
His installation does match the install in the picture though
@@rattslayer No guarantees that the folks taking the photos actually know how to use the items. 🤷♂️
I'm more into electronics than woodworking and seen plenty of pics of soldering gear where that was painfully obvious (as in they'd have experienced serious pain if it had been on, they way they were holding/using it ..)
You can use them either way
You can not use theee either way, they are angled and only roll one direction! (Or the jessem ones that these are ripping off only roll one direction!) either way, the angle of the rollers only work on the fence in their correct position.
@@robertyack1661 No - the arrows on both parts are in the same direction!
On your recommendation I purchased the mitre Guage from Banggood. It arrived within 8 days to UK. I must say that you did not over-sell it when you reviewed it. I am delighted with the quality. Yes there are bells and whistles on market leading gauges but for the price I say it can't be beaten. I too recommend the Guage.
The only query I have about the transaction is that I accessed Banggood using a browser. When I put the item into my basket I was prompted to complete using the app. So I installed it and continued to checkout. The price of the item went from £79 to £118! I uninstalled the app and completed the purchase for £79. I am not sure what was going on but it is worth watching out for it. The app did flash up a discount voucher, so whether that would have reduced the price back to £79 I can't say.
Love the channel. Thank you for the help. 🌟
I have had the same mitre gauge for about 8 months and it is a real gem, especially for the price. Super high quality and dead accurate.
the "roller things" work VERY well on the table saw. you install them both on the top of the fence. jessem calls them "stock guides". 10/10 product would definitely recommend.
My jaw dropped when I saw the red knockoff of the Jessem roller guides. They are intended for use on the router table fence, one on each side of the bit. The Jessem ones are great!
Jessem has different guides for a table saw.
id recommend Jessem brand
@@chuckgrumble5440 Yep... I have a set of the Jessem ones for my table saw and the router table. I put one before and after the bit/blade to help keep things sucked over to the fence. They work incredibly well, and I highly recommend them.
@@jeffgrant935 I bought the Jessem ones because my table saw is old and it doesn't have any safety features. They work well.
Can we stop and talk about how you did the intro plus sponsor plug and then were into the meat of the video in 6 seconds, so good!
You can replace those black plastic on the front of the miter gauge. You can replace the running tract, so that means you can make the tract any length you want
I have bought a number of items through Banggood over the last few years. I have never been disappointed with the quality of their tools. But I would recommend that you read their ads VERY carefully. I have had a few surprises where I thought that I was buying a set of five and actually only got one. They seem to be using the "read the fine print" rule on some of their ads. Plus there are often optional sizes colours etc. Just don't speed through to checkout, and read all of the specs etc and you should be good to go.
All of the woodworking tools I have purchased from BangGood have been of exceptional quality. I did follow Dennis from H.O.W. for recommendations in the beginning but placed other orders for items he did not review that in my eye looked well made and have not been disappointed with any of them. That router lift looks outstanding as well as their miter gauges and track saw parallel guides, fences, spiral carbide router bits and the drawer hardware mounting jig. Hongdui, Ganwei, Wnew, Drill Pro, Veiko and even some of the no name solid stainless steel squares are top quality. Keep an eye on their prices and you can get some super bargains,
Came here to say the same.
The Dowling jig that was on backorder was recently reviewed by Dennis too, I got one before they went out of stock an dit is absolutely exceptional quality!
I love my hongdui chamfer plane it feels high quality and so convenient and useful to not always have to get the trim router out. And it’s more consistent than holding a block plane at an angle. Got it from Dennis recommendation.
Dennis is brilliant ❤
I have a couple of bench plane stops and hold fasts. Admittedly I have bought a pair of Veritas hold fasts since, just cos they’re exceptional
I've used Banggood a couple of times. If you don't mind waiting for the product shipping from overseas, I can't fault them.
I think you may have been using the first tool, the router guides wrong. One is an in feed and the other an out feed, both should be on your fence. I have the Jessem guides installed that way and they work great.
Yeah, I think you're right. In my defense I'm using them exactly how they have them pictured on the website. Thanks!
I think for the vertical drill guide you're supposed to mount the little stops the other way around so the flat part rests on your material and keeps it level. Then the flip will probably be easier to ... erm, flip. It's not THAT much better and will only make a difference if the un-stopped hole you need to drill is further away from the edge, but it's not AS bad a design as it might appear.
Using both stops you could quickly and repeatedly drill holes at the corners of boards without measuring each hole. It looks like a really nice drill guide. First impressions is I'd rather have this one than the Rockler because of the extra functionality.
@@MrErViLi It actually should have at least 6 little stops, with at least one for each of the rods and the large one for the back two rods. With more stops, the more repeatable holes without measuring.
I have this drill guide. BAD! It is a real hazzle to drill straight so if accurate zero degree deviation is important for the outcome of your work quality - don’t buy! The chuck attachment is really!! poor quality (buy a better bearing?.. without excessive play and swap (if possible))
I have many more tools from Bangood. All have exquisitely high quality! This one not.
Kind regards
Anders
Sweden
I think the lateral stop on the drill press is up side down. Should clear the top when turned 180°
I have been buying stuff from Banggood for over 12 years, and have never had a bad product, or an issue of any kind. They are legit, and well worth shopping. Cheers from Winnipeg.
How long do you have to wait to receive your item? 3-4 weeks? Or, longer? I ordered a T-Square and it seems to be stuck in L.A. for a week now.
Placed an order a month ago. My credit card was promptly changed, it is now August 5th, have not received the order. How can they charge so little? they don't ship the merchandise.
On the drill guide/press you need to register the flat side of the guide on the surface of the work piece. Then the guide can flip down.
Also you had it backwards. Flip should be on the outside edge.
I really appreciate these budget tool reviews. I watch den of tools, and he talks about how this tool is good this tool is bad, but I've learned that his opinion of good tools, and my opinion of good tools, is not the same.
If you haven't figured it by now, most of the tools on Banggood are variations, or clones, of other more expensive brands. The drill guide is a clone of the Woodpecker drill guide. The roller guides are clones of the ones made by Jess'em. I have purchased some items from Banggood before, and have been pleasantly surprised by the quality. I just received the MoHoo Honing guide which is a clone of the Woodpecker honing guide. As for the Miter Gauge, Hooked On Wood, ep 11, reviewed the same miter gauge, and he demonstrates on how to make box joints on the table saw using that miter gauge set up. For anybody that's interested in the fence, but do not want to buy another miter gauge, you can buy the fence separately.
i have the Woodpecker knock off track saw parallel guide and adjustable track square. They're actually pretty nice quality for a hobbyist.
I have that exact same drill guide. Ive use it to build my MFT table and it worked well when using my Stanley cordless drill, but when I used my Makita impact driver on it, the hex shaft broke, lol.
Many of us have purchased from Banggood. The only issue is if you have to return a product, that can be a pain is the ass. If you get a product and it works, then I have found that you are good to go
Thanks David, that was a GREAT video! !! !!!
One of the 1st woodworking/project videos I watched on RUclips had a guy who was building kitchen cabinets for his wife(I assume.?), Then the guy went to build a work bench to hold his jobsite table saw, and then he built a nice Miter Station for his Miter Saw. He used pocket holes everywhere, on everything, and he never once used a pocket hole jig. Not once. It 2.5yrs ago, as was returning to the hobby. While I was watching this gifted craftsman, who wore sandals while he worked, "I thought to myself, wow, it would be cool if someone made fixture so that other people who hadn't done it a million and a half times could work with this level of precision."
I have bought lots of Banggood tools, and never been disappointed. The quality is pretty good and they get the job done pretty well. They used to do an even better quality mitre gauge which I purchased along with the box joint jig, it helped take my woodworking up a level or two.
The roller closest to you was not made for that application so it is not a design flaw but user error.
I was also looking it at it - wish I could post a picture - but if your board actually touched the wheels on the side one, it would have raised it up off the table!!
I always want instructions too, David. I've ordered a few of your shirts over the years and not one of them came with instructions. Don't worry, I figured them out.
Glad to hear that you had a good experience with Banggood. I ordered a quadcopter from them about 6-7 years ago. I had never heard of them, but took a gamble. Very impressed with the quality, price, and their service. I think delivery was about 3 weeks. They sent a European-style charger by mistake, so I emailed them, and had a USA adapter in about a week.
Glad to read this. The site kinda looks sus but reading a lot online and seeing the videos NOT from Banggood themselves, puts me at ease.
Good to hear. I got a VTOL drone that looks sick AF.
I bought the miter gauge for 50$ when it was on offer (there's always some merchant that has it on offer more or less). It didn't have the fence but it's not 100% necessary. The quality is really good.
I usually use those roller guides on the infers and out feed position on the fence. I think they are made by Jessem or something.
Yeah that second was not used correctly lol both should be on the fence.
On #1 despite the website drawing the second roller is intended to be also in the fence after the bit (left side) like the JessEm they are cloning.
Loving this series of buying and trying things. Helps me to see what to get and whats out there, thanks
If you had bought the mini chain saw, you would understand why they have so many... I had a friend convince me to get one, and WOW, small, battery operated, and truly amazing for cutting branches and such. You can whip it out and trim what you need.. VASTLY easier than digging out your big chainsaw, and there are SO many things you can use it for... Trees, shrubs, trimming wood pieces... shaping things etc.. I have a 6" chain, and it can cut through a branch that size without any issues.. and it keeps on cutting well.. Just one o f those really really good tools..
Nice selection of items and I like that you mention pros/cons of alternative brands, thanks for sharing
Ive used Banggood in the past and always been impressed with their gear. Have got pipe clamps and squares and they are both well made and far cheaper. Just bought the cheaper router lift for my Makita too so fingers crossed that will be good as well.
Those stock guides both go on the fence. I got the JessEm ones. They work well to keep the piece down and into the fence, as well as preventing kickback with one-way wheels. Definitely a worthwhile thing to have at the router table! Always enjoy your videos!
That makes way more sense considering the identically angled wheels. A pair of these on the fence (plus maybe a featherboard on the table?) would keep everything super secure.
The tease of the futuristic router...savage!! Can't wait!
I have the same Incra lift and found that a long Allen hex bit in a super cheap cordless drill makes for a WAY faster and convenient height adjuster than the provided tool.
Thanks!
Thank you thank you!
I subscribed merely because of your fair and upbeat attitude.
I was considering buying a UJK router lift a couple of years ago, but ended up buying a Triton MOF001 router (also sold as CMT brand), that pretty much has it built-in. The router even comes with a winding handle and a starter pin, the only thing required is a mountin plate. The online shop I bought the router from also sold a mounting plate from Rockler, that is specifically designed for the Triton routers. Triton makes bit collets in all the standard sizes from 6mm to 1/2" (6, 8, 12mm / 1/4", 1/2"). As I bought it in Denmark, it came with 6 an 8mm collets, and I bought the 12mm and 1/2" ones off Amazon.
But the best thing about the Triton is that it is insanely easy to change the bits. When the power switch is off, the collet can be raised so high that the collet is above the table, and the spindle locks automaticly in the top position, so all it takes is a single 24mm wrench to loosen and tightening the collet.
Only minus is the adapter plate in the Rockler mounting plate, it is quite flimsy plastic. I plan to make one from aluminium, but hasn't gotten around to it yet.
The stock guides you demonstrated should really only go on the fence. Just place one for in-feed and the other as an out-feed. I also have the WNew router lift which I mounted in a Kreg router table top. The Harbor Freight Drill Master router fits the 88.9 mm adapter ring perfectly and is very reasonably priced.
But what if the chainsaw is driven by a drill? Surely that counts, right? 😂😂
Not gonna lie that's all I could think about when I saw those sketchy chainsaws!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Yea brad it does.
I was in the middle of typing a reply that I'd seen one of the channels I follow do that recently, then I remembered it was yours. x_x
I noticed on your router roller guides you had one of them set up incorrectly. Both go on the fence and are design for the roller to spin on one direction only to prevent kickback. I have the Jess-Um version of these. (notice the arrow on the guide for direction of wood)
Good video. I've had the Wnew miter gauge for a while now and it is very accurate and well built. I really like mine.
I have been using a chainsaw as a wood working tool for almost the past 60-years. First and still as a carving tool. I carved Totems and Tikis for commercial and residential landscape installations. Then I used them for other sculptural art work and construction projects.
OK! Great help...👍👍 I'm buying everything featured on this vid.
I skipped over this video a few time because of the title. I am glad I watched it for one main reason. I seen their site but the prices are so low I was worried it was a scam. I will revisit it now. As far as the lift goes, that’s almost the same price as the Kreg that I have. I would never chance the quality and support a big company gives me for a few dollars. And I have had some amazing experiences with Kreg and Earlex to name a couple.
9:05 that bit goes on top of the piece too... it's what helps to stabilize it so it doesn't tip over and helps with the sliding action of the jig.
It's all about "value" for the money. For those of us that are not rich, Banggood has some great stuff. Their T-Track and miter track selection is amazing and half the price.
Best thing I bought from Banggood (other than the 3D printer) was the drawer handle layout jig, super high quality
The thing about the track for the saw is that it is for a saw for stone, not wood, they are smaller and waaay faster, so they basically just burn the wood. I leave in Brazil and these other saws are cheaper, so people sometimes buy them thinking they are for woodworking, but they are not. Now you know
Never heard of Banggood before, but they seem worth checking out. Like these purchase videos you do Dave!
Check out the channel, hooked on wood. He reviews these china tools. I’ve bought on his recommendations and not been disappointed. Especially the price difference, that can save you hundreds
Those track saws are usually cordless with 85mm dia blades, max sheet thickness 26mm. Spent this week learning about them. Most only cut 90 degrees, no tilt. They are for cutting sheet stock smaller.
That one is supposed to be used with a 4" tile saw, the item listing literally called "marble machine guide rail" and in the specifications table, it had "4Inch Aluminum Base". But people usually ignore the table and jump to the pictures, I guess.
@@DalekZhang The Ryobi cordless multi material has timber, plastic/ tile blades. 85mm dia. Bigger 140-165mm cordless track saws have side tilt for angle cuts. Both are depth cut adjustable. Anyone make CNC sheet cutter? Cut those 4x8 foot sheets into router/laser sizes?
I have the same miter gauge but with an aluminum handle. I bought mine without a fence then ordered a longer fence with a tape measure and a stop. I use it all the time and am very happy with it.
The track saw track kit. I watch a few Japanese and Korean wood working channels and they seem to use the smaller skill saw for most things. Tile included. Prob because it's easier to get higher rpm.
i am inspired by your life. Mine hasn't been quite as eventful as yours. I lacked creativity. Love the show. Ty
Great video as usual. The roller guides I believe both go on the router table fence. One on in feed side and one on outfeed side.
I have that miter and it works well. I have a track system from Eureka Zone and it is fantastic. Fits any saw, has renewable edges, has router base and it is made in America (Florida)
I have bought several items from Banggood and cannot complain. My favorite are the Vieko right-angle clamping (in the faux Woodpeckers anodized red). I also recommend the ratching and f-style clamps. Great video and I am looking forward to getting some feed guides based on your review.
Love your channel! You're a great wood worker. Watch every video. God bless you my friend!
For my router lift I have an electric drill with a hex bit in it that fits the crank hole so I can move it quickly.
roller guides are used on the vertical face - one for in-feed and one for out-feed just like the Jessem.
I like your way of ranking the tools. It seems very logical. Keep reviewing more stuff like that. Thank you.
Really enjoyed this - I've looked at Banggood before, but didn't know what the quality was going to be overall. I'll definitely have to grab the router lift. I've been wanting one for awhile, but didn't want to pay $400+.
I haven’t watched in a bit and man your shop is looking cool af. The lighting and camera work is noticeably richer as well. Mind sharing lens and camera used?
I agree with your ranking. I have the same miter gauge, but I think you have the 2 plastic pieces in the wrong order if you get the box joint jig for it. Mine wasn't square enough out of the box. I used 5 cut method to calibrate it. The tip goes into the protractor was bent slightly and not seating all the way in' I filed it a little bit to fit better.
The router lift is great, but it's not cheaper than Jessem Rout-R-Lift II with similar material and construction. It would kill the jessem one if it was $199.
Roller feeder is good, and I probalby should get a set. Yes, it's ranked in the middle, but that does not mean it's an average tool. If factoring in the price, I'd put it as #1, and router lift as #3.
So the drill press the little “stops look to me like they might be registers to have equal spacing for say shelf pins. Drill your first hole then flip down the floppy thingy and drill your net repeat. Just a thought
I love the description/titles "Marble Machine Guide Rail" 🤔🤔🤔😂🤣
Those "roller things" Jessem makes some of those. The "wheels" on the Jessem guides are made of polyurethane. My Jessems are many years old as in more than five but less than nine. The polyurethane gets old and turns into a sticky paste that is near impossible to remove. The wheels actually turn into paste over time. If you have these or anything made with polyurethane and they ever feel tacky, throw them away then and replace. I used carburetor cleaner which dissolves most things and it would barely touch the mess I had. Remember the paste you used to eat when you were in primary school? Well this stuff is thicker than that when it degenerates and is as sticky as CA glue.
Jeff, having had to replace my O-rings multiple times now, I was looking for some other material to replace these rings. I have a workshop in the southern US and perhaps climate has something to do with the failures. Jessem had no theory nor any apology. The polyU ring's residue cleans right off, for me anyway, with denatured alcohol. Grainger sells a synthetic rubber Buna N (Nitrile) 319 O-ring with a Durometer of 70A (Medium Hard) that is a direct replacement for Jessem's PolyU O-ring's size. The difference is you get 50 rings for 9 bucks vs. Jessem's 4 rings for 10 bucks, plus any shipping. I can attest that these rings work for both, the Jessem router table and table saw stock guides. I cannot, however, attest to longevity yet because I have only had them on for months. But, with 50 of them, I can deal with a failure down the line! Grainger part number is 1KLP8 BUT, having spent over a week dealing with one mislabeled Grainger bag after another, I would highly recommend you ONLY use the Mfr. part number... Mfr. Model U38801.018.0106, hope this helps.
@@pwe-x8q Like you wrote, I got the 4 rings from Jessem through Woodcraft and they were about $21 delivered. Thank you for your incredibly well written and informative comment.
@@jeffstanley4593 You're welcome. I, too, purchased a set from Woodcraft. They are still in their shipping bag and in my office. They will never see the shop. While that newest set was on it's way, I tracked down any seller of the 319 size and Grainger was the best alternative. The BunaN's are great! I figured, from what research I have conducted, that there are more than quite a few people with this issue. Jessem's solution was to take the rings into a "conditioned" space when the guides are not in use. Not happening. Grab a bag of the Graingers and never look back.
I bought that exact miter guage from Banggood and I reallly like it. It came with a very detailed user manual. dont know how you got shorted.
I have the mitre gauge you bought. I use it all the time. like it much better than the basic dewalt one.
Fun video - thanks! Keeping a regular eye on the random discounts on Banggood can save a lot of money on the already good prices for sure, e.g. I've seen the vertical drill holder at a lower price than you paid.
I subscribed for the good info you are giving it good to see the good quality you are showing..
I ran into the same tack saw problems with the bora track set up, the saw mounting plates were not very good infact they were dangerous. I can us the tracks but not the saw plate. So I bought a Bosch System and love it.
I love these buy and try vids immensely! I dabble in both woodworking and home machine shop, and there are tons of RUclips videos in which people have either bought, or been sent by Banggood, various machining tooling. Even if they’ve paid for it, the reviews are typically very good! As far as the drill guide, I’ve used (and cursed) a General brand guide for many years. Even though I was far south of satisfied with it, my dissatisfaction was never great enough to convince me to pay the price for the Rockler! The other week I made my first pilgrimage to the new Rockler store in Charlotte, and after laying my eyes and hands on their version I was dazzled!! Of course I had one when I left the store! The thing is amazing!
I have the WNew mitre gauge, but I got the extending fence. Basically the same price, but the fence is huge. Love it.
I have the Wnew miter gauge, and it's fantastic.
I am a snob for name/quality tools but I have bought a few Banggood tools. I is worth looking at what they offer especially if you are just starting out in w/w. Some of the times they fail on the quality of fit and finish, instructions and there are usually no or little video's of them in use anywhere. They also lack good customer service. Plan carefully as to what you want because shipping back to them is on you. All said worth looking at.
Lol, I used to run some of the digital marketing opps (as an external marketeer, had no control of anything on the actual site) for Banggood in the UK. Havnt seen them since i left the marketing industry. Was fun to see them crop up
I'm buying from Banggood for years never had any issues with them, from electronics to woodworking tools, I have that miter gauge and works really good.
that shark next wave cnc router lift is pretty cool. but ive been able to do that with the MLCS Router Lift Pro and incra fence for the past 10 years
I love my Incra 1000SE miter gauge. It has accuracy to the Tenths of a degree and costs around $200. I got mine on sale luckily.
I have the miter gauge; works beautifully.
the track says its for "stone/plate cutting" maybe that's what you didn't understand? Just a thought. that is sort of an odd looking saw. Keep up the good work it's my first time
I love these videos! I’m stoked about the router video.
Love the video, but wanted to say you are killing it with the square space adds. They are becoming must watch content similar to Steve Ramsey and his micro jig adds. Something to look forward to each video.
Do those rollers also only roll in one direction? There are some that do, and act as anti kickback devices.
d) The "rolling feeders" stand out in Min 5:20 & especially in 5:32. The "horizontal roller" would lift the wood upwards. This means that a right angle is no longer possible. What is required is that the wood is pressed towards the worktop. The orientation is therefore wrong and probably cannot be changed.
The fact that the rollers are not lower and do not touch the wood is only relevant afterwards.
e) At min 11:37 you can see the miter gauge from the screenshot.
The right screw with the black plastic sleeve on the half round angle has a problem with the cutout on the right side of the aluminum profile. If you set a width that requires the screw to be fixed there, you can't use that spot because the screw can't be fixed there. The problem will certainly affect some saws where the distance of the guide groove and the saw blade have the appropriate distance.
f) The Miter Gauge you show for $300 is also available at banggood ... for partly 120 or 150 €.
My biggest gripe for the track saw is the fact that it doesn’t register the zero edge which I think is 80% of the benefit over a circular saw and straight edge.
I absolutely would put that track saw towards the end, not because it doesn't fit a regular saw, but that 1\2" gap. For me, thr biggest reason for a track saw is the ability to set in right where you want to cut and take that extra bit of measurement error out. If not for that, i can use a long straight edge and do the same thing as that track
Absolutely. I made my own from cheap 6mm ply. That was 4 years ago and it still works great.
He used the wrong saw, that track is designed for marble cutting saw, it literally says in the ad "marble cutting machine guide". And in the picture he shows on the video you can see the blade closer to the guide.
The solution to the Track saw problem is to make the mods to the Bauer saw to fix the plate, and give the saw and the track to your buddy. He's been excellent.
Enjoyed watching this David, thank you for posting these kinds of videos.
Hello this concept seems exactly the same as Dennis from hooked on wood does on his china tools series just a little more in depth thanks for the video it was fun got the mitre gauge my self it's were nice
I'm excited to hear about the fancy router. My routers were the only tools that didn't get recovered (I think) from when my storage unit was broken in to, so I'll need to replace them.
We shall see. I have wanted to buy the JessEm 04301 Clear-Cut TS Stock Guides but they are expensive and I have had other needs. After watching this video I purchased the Roller Feeders you demonstrated. I await their arrival.
@@toolchuck they are much more than that
I noticed that the #1 and #2 items that were the best quality and had a manual included were also distributed by the same company, based on the logos on the front of the manual. So I would wager that other items from said company would also be of comparable quality. I'm interested in what else they offer. Sounds like a good video idea for you to follow-up with!
I think the track was also from that company (there was a sticker on the track) so that's not that good of a sign
Dennis over at HookedOnWood does a bunch of China Tools reviews and Wnew generally does good quality. The doweling jig that wa son pre order is also top notch (I have it myself and it's some proper solid quality through and through)
I‘m using the products of this company since a long time and all are always of an amazing quality
"WuNew Tools", a brand from China, "吴新工具" in Chinese.
The roller guides at the beginning look like an awesome alternative to the Jessem guides
I have the miter gage and it works like a charm