Do non-duality teachers have a mental illness?
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2024
- QUESTION: Is it that the no-self folks are suffering a form of psychological dissociation possibly? Asking the channel owner, not the audience. Good god, I don't want to hear anything from a bunch of neo-advaita robots or pie-eyed guru worshippers. I don't give a shit what Rupert Spira, Mooji, Ramana Maharshi, Papaji, Adyashanti or Tony Parsons says. Been there, annoyed by that. No self, false self, nothing but self, I've heard them all. Maybe this guy has a different perspective.
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I've spent hundreds of hours listening to spiritual teachers in recent years. I've heard more sense in this 45 minutes than so much of the other teachings put together. Kim articulates better than I could myself exactly what my own experiences and realisations have been, especially the part toward the end about remaining in a neutral position and allowing a higher understanding occur.
Gotta love that western training. It's like naming things and having an orderly universe that we can decipher and thus see the mind of God has consequences on the culture and ability to articulate. I'm sure Eastern Philosophy and teachers know way more in the way of living perhaps or reality at other levels, but as far as naming and disection to get thing in the mighty grasp of science, West is best.
The idea of Advaita Vedanta is that suffering is brought about by attachment to changing things. The purpose is not knowledge of the true nature of reality for its own sake but the effect of knowing that you are the absolute. I think the Neo Advaitins have done alot of damage by their tendency to believe that wand waving can liberate someone instantly which gives an expectation that it is easy. I like this quote from the Ashtavakra Gita as I feel it encapsulates the raison d'etre of Advaita Vedanta "Bondage is when the mind longs for something, grieves about something, rejects something, holds on to something, is pleased about something or displeased about something. 8.1
Liberation is when the mind does not long for anything, grieve about anything, reject anything, or hold on to anything, and is not pleased about anything or displeased about anything. 8.2
Bondage is when the mind is tangled in one of the senses, and liberation is when the mind is not tangled in any of the senses. 8.3
When there is no “me,” that is liberation, and when there is “me” there is bondage. Consider this carefully, and neither hold on to anything nor reject anything. 8.4
Liberation sounds like death
@@gregoryjames165 What is death? I mean in a positive sense. It is thought of as the absence of something so does that not mean that it has no positive existence?
@@gregoryjames165like nothingess wich we are already 😊🎉
This matter illustrates why the Tibetan Buddhists have an injunction on teaching emptiness to those whose minds are not prepared. Cat's out of the bag now!
I used to be into non-duality teachings & teachers. It IS mental illness. straight path to dissociation. Find your Heart instead, this will initiate you into what is real and not just heady knowledge.
LOL keep trying.
@@ChrisLeonardos but I don't wannaaaa
Non duality (avidya!) Is not taught,rather it is realized,there have never been avidya teachers! Only handlers! To those who realized this( non idea) it is never from external teaching!
When a baby is born it has no self no separation from anything it only has the experience of its senses.Babies have no discernment and what they sense is what they are.They learn to be separate as they grow.When you wake up you go back to the begining and remember the feeling of not having a self youre just experience and thats more real than anything else you could experience and its familiar and intimate in a way you can't explain.Most of genuine teachers are trying to point or trigger you to this but words are just symbols and no matter how convincing they are they are not the thing.All the explanations and criticisms are really a waste of time.
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Your perspective is extremely wonderfully useful. I'm so glad you're here sharing it!
Hi Kim, thank you for all you've done and continue to do. These teachings and the sharing of your experiences has changed my life. I've gone through all your courses - all the ones with black and white covers, Master Keys to Personal Christhood, just finished the last of the Mystical Initiation books a few days before Easter, not to mention all the books suggested in these courses. And I genuinely feel...I don't know. I was recently given a spiritual message by a very gifted friend to get excited. She said I was excited for everyone else and needed to get excited about my own life. And I want to. Am trying to. Like I appreciate everything but as part of these courses I feel like I've given away everything too. Like I've created space and cleared the way for my divine plan to manifest but in that emptying I don't have anything to feel excited about for myself anymore because I've let go of my desires. I've let go of the things I used to carry me along the path until this point. And I feel...empty and at the mercy of everything. Like it feels like my cup is empty. I have the tools and have still been using them, looking for unresolved psychology, reflecting as it comes, clearing, slowly putting my journey out there through a blog, etc. Despite this, I just feel like I'm in a holding pattern. At this point what would you do - just kind of be until the orange drops in your turban so to speak? It's like my heart feels empty for life even though I love it so much. I hope this makes sense.
As Osho once told me, "Put an extra coat of wax on all the green Rolls Royce's, but only one coat on the red." That's always stayed with me.
Osho himself ?
Thanks for your perspective .
The time has come when the wise are deemed mad and the mad are deemed wise.
And the rest of us cannot decide who are the wise and who are the mad
Great, no nonsense questioner, question and answer.🥰
We identify individual aspects to everything. So a table and a chair as two separate things in relation to everything. But when we are not doing that, there is already everything. Free from the need for individual aspects to be identified. The identification of individual aspects is knowing, we are searching to know everything. Everything is already free from the need to be known. There is just absolute freedom, covered over by that search for knowing.
You’re not grasping what non-dual teachers are saying. You’re on the periphery and haven’t seen the heart of the words.
Can you explain the essence of the non duality and what those teachers are saying?
Well said. It's frustrating to hear Kim mischaracterise non-dualists as those who say that nothing is real. Stating that phenomena and form is illusory is not the same thing as saying it's not real. It's illusory in the sense that form and phenomena are misperceived and misunderstood. I will continue to see a mirage even after I understand its true nature. It doesn't lose reality, I learn how to see it correctly. I get so tired of seeing this particular reality denying strawman flogged and called a non-dualist position, especially from people claiming expertise. So after calling non-dualists reality denying and suggesting they are mentally ill, he goes on to appeal to a fictional construct called a "reality simulator". He pushes this gee whiz toy like a salesman but he can't point to this device without invoking a long story decorated with appealing hooks. His simulator can only be invoked with a carefully crafted story that takes time to tell. If the reality simulator could be perceived without a story telling it would exist in awareness and awareness would be fundamental to it. But it's just an appealing imaginary construct that can only be perceived in the moment as a feeling tone left over from a rollicking story at best
@@user-tq8vt8jn8eessentially they are saying that there is not two, that nothing is separate from the indivisible wholeness of reality. The ramifications of this understanding can be explored without deferring to teachers and always relying on your direct experience but it can be very illuminating to check out pointers offered by gifted articulators such as Rupert Spira or people who resonate with your current perspectives. I hope you have fun with your explorations
@@user-tq8vt8jn8e All non-duality teachers say that there is only One without a second, so there is Only One-ness, One consciousness, or One Being-ness etc. But MOST are like robots, parroting the same stuff over and over like broken records. They tell your mind that it doesn't exist and some even say that the ego/mind has to die (There's a book published called "I hope you die soon") .
However, the teacher I follow says that if the ego-mind feels under threat it will hang on, fight for it's life and will never allow progress! He says the mind is a strictly dualistic instrument that is NEEDED to function in this world of duality. He says stop trying to understand Non-duality because the mind can't. Instead, only try to understand what you are NOT and then Non-duality will naturally reveal itself.
I actually trust this guy more than most the gurus I’ve seen. It’s your ego that got caught up with the honesty of what he said, you have every right to be skeptical but I see from your comment and the feeling I get, it questioned your own beliefs on gurus that he’s prob talking about. I do like mooji, because the words that came from him helped but It doesn’t hurt to question the people you like, if they’re right then they’re right, but if it leads you to question yourself then there’s more work to be done. If it overwhelms you with confusion and fear, they’re feelings and you must SIT AND FEEL IT to transmute and overcome them
Beautiful words, beautiful beliefs (e.g. beings with a higher consciousness). That's all. Agree with your criticism of what some say about merging with the universal self, but many people who have realized some degree of wisdom do not say so.
Interesting topic. Before I listen to the presentation my guess is that the Western style of nonduality can often be too intellectual resulting in the subconscious still operating as a separate ego. I believe that's why the ancient Eastern traditions have a long period of practice, even though the ultimate message is really simple.
20 minutes in. Wow! this is a fantastic explanation of the duality conundrum. Makes perfect sense. I wait with bated breath to see if Kim believes we CAN actually connect entirely with the Higher Self
Bob Dylans lyrics came to mind.
"Praise be to Nero's Neptune
The Titanic sails at dawn
Everybody's shouting
"Which side are you on?"
And Ezra Pound and T.S. Elliot
Fighting in the captain's tower
While calypso singers laugh at them
And fishermen hold flowers
Between the windows of the sea where lovely mermaids flow
And nobody has to think too much about
Desolation Row"
PS Would you say that Jungs theory of individuation is another way solving the conundrum ?
To put Sri Ranana Naharshi in that list of people who make money from their limited understanding of advaita is close to blasphemy 🙏🕉️
Only if you have deified Maharshi and that is not what he would have wanted if he was enlightened.
@@kimmichaels-po4wz I will happily defy Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi 🙏 as He is God incarnate,- the others mentioned definitely are not !
No.Listing Ramana's name with those others IS a joke. And that has NOTHING to do with deifying him.Perhaps you should know your material before you make a video.Understanding that a teacher's conceptual understanding and communication may not always match their spiritual evolution may help.See the link posted in my earlier comment.@@kimmichaels-po4wz
Define your terms. What do you mean by “real”?
Around minute 27 is very important: it is not that the world is not real, the problem is that we imagine that something can be outside Brahman/reality. This is the belief in separation and it is the original sin (meaning: error). Very clear, thank you.
Hi Kim, I encourage you to continue your investigations into free-will. It is here that you will find the key to understanding reality (no matter what labels are put upon it). Merely recognising our universe as causal is enough to see the truth. 🙏🏻
Just before your first ascendence / awakening / visit outside of simulator, did you do something to become more neutral towards your world view / evaluation of what's happening inside the simulator?
Nevermind about the terms I used, I probably read from different sources.
Have a nice day,
Janne
can you please make a video explaining an interaction with an ascended master?
I think he already made one - check it out. ♥ generally speaking its intuitive connection but its possible to use some outer tools to stimulate this connection and use this as a starting point. Generally they need to see your sincere desire to communicate with them. Your intention is a key of why you want or need this communication?
@@JessicaSunlight Then it's not Non-duality. There are no "masters" because there is only the One consciousness/ Being-ness. "You" are the master and there's no other above nor below you.
some people feel uneasy with the unknown others thrive on the unknown
Yes I tied myself in knots about this one too. Then I came down and decided no more acid for me (OK, maybe after the 20th time.....don't follow in my footsteps kids!!!).
It looks like some people don't need hallucinogenics to trip up over reality, I suggest staying away from concepts like 'absolute' and 'real' otherwise having breakfast can be a bit tricky. Have fun!!!
This is good. It chimes a little with what Bashar says.
Thank you. This is a very helpful explanation.
Something I've also struggled with for a similar 40 odd years! And believed for some time that nothing at all exists. Its a lonely place!
I'd like to know the identities of these ascended ones that you speak of. Are any mentioned in the Hindu religion? Are they noted is the Bhagavad Gita?
Krishna is an ascended master.
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how can anyone experience anything outside of perception?
14:18 I've so much to say on this. Very interesting monologue. "It is possible for us to experience something outside the simulator.". Yes, again I very much agree. A related point; the subconscious mind does not know the difference between perceived-real or imagined. Our physiology is connected to the subconscious. If one were to close one's eyes and replay, using imagination, some emotionally-charged past event, the real body in the present moment may experience a change (e.g. elevated heartbeat, blushing, whatever). An interesting connection between perceived-real and imagined is manifesting. To manifest something in reality, it is highly effective to imagine it already completed, and the subconscious seems to drive the conscious being to bring about the imagined reality until it matches the perceived reality. Why is that, I wonder. There is a reason for this mechanism which perhaps is NOT beyond our comprehension. But this is the problem with radical non-duality; it directs people away from even trying to understand.
Nonduality does not promote the "no self". Do you even read nondual texts?
I think the video is about specific "gurus". The questioner doesn't seem aware of dualism vs. non-dualism in history of thought.
You’ve been brainwashed sir
He doesn't understand it, but he is welcome to criticise it.
I'm not sure principle of non-contradiction applies in places you're talking about, and time is wasted on Wittgenstein language games. Sometimes it's better to understand metaphors than translate them.
isn’t everything equally real and unreal?
Watch Jeff Foster's video on why he quit non duality.
I did, it is very good.
The sense of reality is different than the reality that was learned by society over all time of the social human. The squirrel and other non reasoning animals live and realize what is reality. If the animals didn't understand reality, they would parish fairly quickly. The humans created their simulations of reality in order to better procreate and survive. Then much later through mastering survival, used the same reasoning to simulate a more pleasant reality. It didn't become dangerous until they moved almost totally away from community that was helping them to survive, into extreme rates of individualism. This is what we are seeing in this great Western civilization divide. One side seeking even greater individual freedoms, while the other side seeking even greater community.
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For now [in this time of imperfection] we see in a mirror dimly [a blurred reflection, a riddle, an enigma], but then [when the time of perfection comes we will see reality] face to face. Now I know in part [just in fragments], but then I will know fully, just as I have been fully known [by God].
Something is appearing here, and everything is "made", is that. Call it a Universe call it an etch-sketch quantum fun house. Everything is made out of it; in it, one entity has a semaphore system that runs on its memory, i.e., language. Nothing in the language is separate from the thing flexing its larynx and puffing out its air. Symbols of description are caught by an interpreter, and that is all. It is the voice box, the memory module, etc., Not one thing is more important than another. Just a dog barking al la UG. Woof woof. Everything in the etch-sketch in the process of disappearing forever. The Sapiens temporary entities are designed to be corroded by Oxygen and then, poof, gone like they never were. Is anything not disappearing forever? The analogy is like a mirror or a screen. The mirror is non-finite and non-temporal. The reflections are the so-called everything that appears. Or the movie on the screen. The screen does not burn when the nuke goes off in the movie. Like a jar of the ocean, a temporary entity is scooped up and then eventually poured back. Does not matter how. Does not matter when. Does anything matter? Does anything happen? Woof woof.
Answer - no
The question you raise about the no-self concept and whether it might relate to psychological dissociation is quite intriguing. It's important to differentiate between the philosophical or spiritual concept of "no-self" in traditions like Buddhism, which negates a permanent, unchanging self as a path to enlightenment, and psychological dissociation, which is often a defense mechanism against trauma.
In spiritual contexts, the idea of no-self is not about disconnection from reality but rather a deep insight into the nature of self as fluid and interconnected with all of existence, rather than separate and static. This realization is aimed at liberating the individual from the suffering caused by clinging to a false sense of ego.
From a psychological standpoint, dissociation involves a detachment from reality, often as a response to trauma, which can disrupt a person's sense of identity and reality. While superficially similar, spiritual teachings about no-self are about understanding and embracing a broader, more profound reality, not escaping from it.
Your quest for a fresh perspective is valid, and exploring these ideas through different lenses, be they psychological, philosophical, or spiritual, can provide deeper insights and perhaps a more satisfying understanding of the concept of self and no-self.
this guy does not understand non-dual philosophy, so although it's great that he has an opinion, it helps if you understand the subject matter. non-duality has nothing to do with psychological diassociation.
Neuro-divergent is a better term. Various religions and groups are grouped on neuro divergence. That's a decent explanation as to how/why people go from one party to another.
But non-dual state is NOT an experience!!! All advaita teachers say that this is not an experience but a clear being.
funny guy...🤣😂🤣 keep thinking bro!👊😁
Generally speaking in the current climate everybody qualifies for DSM classification and medication :) I'm quite sure a few of the gurus are "neurodivergent", for example they need less sleep, or are hypermobile and can easily do most yoga, and then unfairly and fraudulently use social hierarchies to pressure their devotees into guilt and compliance. But all I can say from 2 non-dual "devotees" I've met, they were the most dualist individuals I ever met, they would fight me with any joke or critique I threw at them, very weird advaita that the critics are always wrong LOL
Everything is real, and not real at the same time ! Put simply an image on a TV screen is undoubtedly real ( A Real Image ) ( as in you believe the movie is real! Likewise, everything you see ! But you could argue that it’s not real ! 😜. I know that takes a bit of explaining, but it would take a lot of writing. 😁
I’m afraid this just sounds like a load of gobbledygook to me 🥴😵💫🤪
Is a person that realizes that people are essentially just playing "house" or "cops and robbers" the crazy one?
This is a terrible misunderstanding and poor representation of the teachings. It’s not that nothing is real it’s that the unchanging awareness that we all share is more consistent then the changing world of maya. The teachings tell us there is nothing to understand but that we are the unchanging conscious awareness rather than the constantly changing physical world. If we can learn to identify with this higher “seer” than suffering caused by identifying with constant changing is alleviated.
If your greatful for all experience weather “good or bad” than your “enlightened” that’s it...
Can you explain how the following is relevant to a simulator?
There is a certain numbers of kilograms a person can deadlift. One person can do max 100kg. The other can do 220kg.
What is simulated about this??
The simulator paradigm is typically used for “seeing” things… how about we stop using the amorphous phenomenon of sight, and talk about getting real things done.
No matter what you say/think/believe you sir I strongly doubt can deadlift 250kg even if someone was holding a gun to your head. There are other people who can do this with relative ease.
This is but one among infinite examples… who wrote the song “Hey Jude”? Are you 13 years old now? If you fall from a 200m height onto concrete your body will destruct and you will die. Etc.
What are we to make of these raw facts? How can one dismiss their inherent factuality?
Straight answer please.
Could we reduce the ads please Kim? So disruptive to the flow.
Unfortunately, I have no influence on the amount of ads. You can subscribe to RUclips and have no ads, but its rather expensive.
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Kim has a common misunderstanding of Non-Duality. It is not that there is real vs unreal, or a reality simulator. Not at all. The point is that there exists a belief in separateness, and that is the unreal aspect. Reality is obvious, things are hot and cold, hard or soft. But the idea that there is a separate 'me' that experiences the world along with many other separate 'me' in other bodies is the illusion.
This matters because the separateness causes all the suffering because if one is separate, then one must die and thus searches for ways to control the environment.
Again, it is not a new philosophy. It is the actual experience of union. And unless one has this experience, one can only philosophize about it. It is a concept, like any other. So, the point of non-duality is not to believe something new, it is to destroy all beliefs that are not true, which in the end leaves none. Because there never was any singular believer. The believer is removed from the equation...and what is left...but everything else...which is what they call emptiness. And this emptiness...experienced...is bliss/love/joy...and it comes from nowhere, is endless, and is free. This is the invitation. Use logic to get rid of beliefs that are not true...do not add more beliefs...
So seeing yourself outside yourself? I’ll ask you, how do you know you can trust the non duality teachers you’re keen on? Anyone can lie. It’s good that you question Kim yet he’s articulated far better than most other gurus and teachers. I like mooji and ram daas and it doesn’t hurt to rebound off of ideas bc tbh sir, we can never really trust people unless we really know them and that includes me. For me and my path I can trust this guy bc I’ve repetitively been doing it and it’s made me hit rock bottom so many times. I still can be skeptical towards Kim and yet so far I can listen and actually learn. Good luck on your path! It’s a good thing you found this channel bc you never know if you’ve been lied to by the same people who got your trust. You can never know unless you see them and tbh were just watching random people who could have ulterior motives. Let Kim question your beliefs so you can find your true potential!
So all he is saying is that there is a reality outside of us that we can perceive and there is a reality of the mind and mysticism is emerging out of your current illusion to grasp at other ways of view reality and by that get the idea that there is an actual outside. I dunnno, maybe it's too simple. Not too dissimilar from Don Ruiz and everyone living in their own dream, except that there is a space that we exist in that indeed real and can be perceived? Basically it's beyond just mere solipsism.
"When people try to practice religion, eighty percent of them turn into cheats, and about fifteen percent go mad. It’s only the remaining five percent who get some direct knowledge of the Truth and so become blessed. So Beware."
- Swami Vivekananda
million percent, they are not.
Human brain notices authenticity very fast.
What is the Mental illness with NON DUALITY ? Interesting ...No i dont think in general they have a MI
I am that
What you speak about sounds like just another religious conception.
Is there anything that is real? Is this a real question or not? If experienced reality is a reality simulator, is the reality simulator then ittself real? Where are the eight billion people then coming from he speaks of? Are there also not real if they are part of the simulation? If we can create our own reality with our mind, then our mind must be real? Really? Then the experience of our mind is not part of the simulation? He makes a distinction in what we experience. The mind that we experience is real, but what the mind produces is not real? This makes no sense at all. Ofcourse the conclusion of nondualists is then correct, that what we see has no reality, as the mind ittself is not real in essence. There are radical nondualists that are saying this from not knowing, and say we do not know our knowing. But other nondualists say only consiousness is real, but its products not, as the essence is only consiousness or brahman.
The distinction he makes of in and outside the simulator is nonsense, as anything existing outside the simulator comes from assuming it from inside the simulator. That is what nonduality says, that there is no outside. So there is not a going to an outside of a simulator, but a seeiing what the essence is of that simulator, namely brahman. It is brahman pretending to be a simulator. He assumes that nonduality is referring to something outside a simulator, but lacks any argumentation why this should be so. He therefore narrows nonduality to the idea of connection, to the in and outside of the simulator. This is very much nonsense, as nonduality means no idea of connection. Also you do not ascend as he means, you become not something, nothing in essence changes, it is just seen. But then he brings it as a form of imagination of the mind, but the whole point is that the mind is always changing, and nonduality is referring to what does not change. Also he makes the mistake that reality must be produced from something else then brahman, but Shankara clearly says that mays is the power of brahman. So seeing reality cannot be a imagination , as it would take effort to sustain it. His view is very much like the vishista advaita of Ramanuja, but he probably does not realize it. Ramanuja was against the complete idea of nondifferention, and he has a point. But what you see with a lot of nonduality teachers these days that they give the human experience more prominence and not follow classical advaita in this. Listen for example to jac o’ keefe, she makes a strong point of it. After listening to this video i conclude he created an idea of what nonduality means in his reality simulator and tries to refute it. His refusal to debate it is a cop out. He studied decades, but still does not have any clue. He really clearly needs a good spiritual teacher.
It's so funny, at 7:20 he talks about people creating new world views and satisfying their own mind when this is all his simulation is. He lacks any self-awareness
If you cling to non duality as an idea it’s the same as duality. All these ideas and perspectives are creating a subject and objective, or holding onto something when there is nothing to hold onto. There is not a special reality, it is just experiencing life directly in this moment. That is non duality, but it’s not the idea. Can you feel your foot on the floor? You’re already doing it.
They say spiritual bypassing not be like dat, but it do.
@@avertingapathy3052 can you elaborate?
He says the same what Maharishi's teaching. He just uses different, more western way of explanation. Maharishi used more hinduistic way od explanation.
I think Ramana Maharshi was a bit more than a "non-duality teacher".
What more was he?
@@RippleDrop. He was a jivanmukta (liberated being)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jivanmukta
www.spiritualteachers.org/ramana-maharshi/
No disrespect to some of the others in that list but they really shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Maharshi.
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Non-duality people are the most healthy people that can be found in this reality. They come from superior reality to this one.
There's no You that has a perspective
Who said there is no you?
@@kimmichaels-po4wz There's no one here to tell that.
Thank You 😍 We Are PERFECT : WISDOM is Knowing I am No THING - LOVE is knowing I AM Everything - and Between the TWO ( Dual ) MY LIFE MOVES. There is only one THING of VALUE : THE POWER OF LOVE = LIFE = LIGHT - and LOVE is INDIVIDUAL WILL- Power and so I CREATE MY WORLD . LIFE IS GOD - The ABSOLUTE REALITY, SUPREME IMMENSITY. Befire ALL Beginnings ans All ENDINGS: I AM = Human CHROMOSOM Nr. 1 ONE Chromo = COLOR = Chemestry. WHITE ist the ONE COLOR WHICH INCLUDES ALL THE OTHERS . OMEGA.
If they claim to be a "TEACHER" then its really best not to listen to them but that too you'll have no choice in so best of look with that one 😂😂😂
Non-duality meeting, no one turned up
you presume a "reality simulator" and everything else after that is a castle built on conjecture. Your questioner is a funny guy - he is straight up saying dont rell me anything i dont want to hear - very amateur and childish. Prove to me this 'reality simulator" exists and then we can discuss further. You have not grokked Advaita at all. The Holotropic universe and all that jazz...... thats not what Advita is about. You are trying to fit something non-objective into an objective model - not possible or even close to accurate - or even useful.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 better not to answer u 😂😂
9:40 Yes, another good point. "One non-dual teacher says in a video...when his body dies, he ceases to exist.". I've been more coming to think that there is an entity - the spirit - that takes ownership of the body & mind for its lifetime, and outside of that, has some kind of eternal existence. A bit like drivers and cars; at conception, a driver is assigned to the car (body). If that were not the case, then why are some people naturally more 'awake' even since childhood? Henri Bergson: "Fortunately, some are born with spiritual immune systems that sooner or later give rejection to the illusory worldview grafted upon them from birth through social conditioning...". Is this variance across beings 100% self-contained within the physiology, or is it partially (or wholly) due to some kind of eternal spirit that takes ownership of the physiology for its lifetime? I think it's the latter.
That is an incredibly stupid idea
He's entitled to his illusion
You don't have to grasp anything just be
I agreed until you brought in your own claims about one creator which is horseshit, there's no way you can know that or me
As soon as you speak you are in duality. Therefore, there is no way to avoid misunderstanding. And yet, there is no choice but to speak.
Its like the Zen buddhist saying about the finger pointing at the moon. You have to point, but if you mistake the finger for what it is pointing at then you will miss the moon.
I cant give you the moon, I can only point at it.
If you mistake my finger for being the moon then I'm sorry, but it's not my fault.
All I can do is point, or speak.
Nobody knows anything but my life is real, that's a definition of real.
G-d created man/woman, everything. We exist because of G-d.This podcast we all are viewing is a creation of G-d. It exists because of G-d. If it were not for G-d, it would not exist. Every thought, feeling, memory, exists because of G-d. G-d did not want to be alone. That is why he created Mankind.
Who created god? Why would god be lonely? Does god sleep? Where does good go for vacation? What does god eat? Where does god poo? If god loves us why did he create immense suffering for so many? Does god sleep? Did god create the cosmos or just our earth? Sun? Planets? Why would god create Uninhabitable worlds? Why would god create meteors and asteroids? Why did god create ticks? Viruses? Mosquitos? I’ve got many more questions about god!!
@@jsblastoff Life as we know begins with G-d. He created everything.
@@ronaldshiffman9171 Thanks for clearing that up for me✌
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بعد از مرگ شما انرژی میشوید و با منبع انرژیه واحد، یکی میشوید و تبدیل به عشق خالص میشوید؟؟
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من قصد بی احترامی ندارم و خیلی هاشون
دارند قوانین درست رو درس میدهند و کارهای درست و خدمت بزرگی میکنند و جایگاه هاشون خیلی بالاست 🙏🙏💚💚
ولی بعضی هاشون فقط کس شعر میگویند 🚫🚫
وارد علمش نشوند و فقط تکنیک ها و قوانین رو یاد بدهند و کار عملی انجام بدهند و تئوریه مربوط به عملکردها و تمرینها ..