I would swap Field Surgeon for another rank of Team Medic and a rank of Suppressor. Stimpaks working faster doesn't make them heal more, it just makes them work faster, and with Team Medic being shared you're going to be healing off your teammates' stimpaks anyway so you might as well maximize that shared healing. To go along with that, swap that Scrapper for another rank of First Aid, the increased healing will ultimately speed up your healing similar to Field Surgeon while further increasing the healing being shared. Suppressor is self-stacking and will reduce enemy damage output by up to 40% to minimize the damage making it to your armor.
@marcschow Herbivore is better for damage. Carnivore is better for carry weight. It's not very surprising that turtle is a carnivore. You absolutely should be a herbivore though if carry weight isn't an issue for you.
This gives me a good heads up, as to what I'm going to be doing with my perk card loadout. I've also made an explosive Troubleshooters Gatling plasma, with durability, for the century bots.
@@philistine3260 honestly, in endgame build, there are not so many moments when you die (that may happen once a month for me, max 2 bad month lol) and in event/raid/expedition/daily ops, you don't drop junk
For luck as an alternative I chose : 4 legendary special instead of 3 (change of PA reboot for funky duds for last boss, I don't want to move legendary specials when not in raid), max luck perks + luck legendary perk for 20 points, and for my 2 PA : 2 pieces with luck, 1 piece with AP regen (best benefice value for the first piece + company tea) ), 2 pieces with agility (more VATS) + seared venison with berries : so 18 luck (base+mutation) + 5 extra luck + 7 food (7.5) + 2x2 in PA = 34 luck, I reallocate 1 luck for 33 with perk points machine.
Pretty much the set up I have already. Joined you on the pts for the raid about a month ago and have been grinding the live game to get all the mods I needed for my PA and weapons and watching your videos for tips. Watched the one yesterday about calculating luck for crit shots so been changing from Agility to luck on my armour. Super hyped for the raid to go live!
Nah, I'm going in bloody commando - wish me luck :) If that don't work, I'll try bloody ballistic heavy gunner in PA. If I'm still getting rocked, then I'll take your advice.
I was thinking of using a rank 3 supressor perk card for running the raid. I wonder if it would work with damage reflected from richochet? Either way 30 percent seems substantial when it comes to staying alive. Thanks for the build ideas.
You can technically save 2 points by using the rank 1 card; Suppressor stacks up to 40% regardless of rank, all that changes is how long it lasts and how quickly it gets there but that doesn't really matter as long as you keep the damage going.
All the videos I've seen say overeaters or some other full health. It looks like it's going to be very high damage. He says towards the end of the video while talking about food that full health will be necessary due to the unavoidable and unmitigatable damage.
I would want to only tailor one character to excel at raids. But are there good rewards that are character bound? Or could I hand stuff over to my non-raid optimized characters. Like the 4 star stuff.
Very nice :) I was just wondering if it would be worth using 'Lucky' as a 3rd star for the Gatling plasma and have a 23+ luck build (15 base luck + 6 luck from PA second star + 3 luck from Stranger in numbers), considering coffee will get spammed during the boss fights?
gl I have tried the first boss solo team, bloodied union with emergency protocole + max endurance in 2* and max endurance in perks, no way to survive long without vampire gatling plasma (with AA/B almost impossible). Ofc, it's not that difficult in team cause not focus on one person but that is hard anyway. Not sure staying bloodied bypass the confort of being full health in this scenario. Edit : just to mention that I didn't have dodgy, but dodgy/vats not a good symbiosis anyway.
Additional AP regen on your armor is nice as a quality of life thing, used to be very sought after but the way things are looking I might go +2 END instead for +10 END overall. The ap regen is not very effective while constantly in combat and some of the best ap regen is coming from consuming company tea and taking canned coffee as needed. More AP regen is diminishing returns. The effect is not bad though either.
Does crippling perks such as one gun army effect the shield bar on the first stage, I mean when it triggers would it drain a large chuck of its bar or does it not work at all now ?
Isn’t bloodied PA way tankier than full health because is nerd rage and emergency protocol? Epsciallybnow either the bullet shield/ricochet combo? You throw in born survivor and power armor reboot and you never die
It is right now. I don't know if they changed something about how damage mitigation works, but right now, a properly built bloodied PA build can easily out tank full health. I believe it was something like 91% damage is shaved off before anything even touches the DR start.
Would it not make more sense to have a PA set for each stage, if we know the typing of the enemy? Snake is an animal so 75% animal damage negated would help a lot compared to Overeaters.
How exactly does field surgeon work? Does it make the heal effect faster? Or make the initial burst bigger? I've tested it and i can't figure it out. I do use it, but I'd want to know what exactly it does lol
I know this is a build for the raid, but is rapid better than explosive in general? I've been building all of my heavy weapons with explosive as I though it was better with grenadere and demolition expert =/
In general day to day it’s a preference, they perform about the same on heavy weapons (apart from the gauss mini as that is double explosive with 2nd star explosive, so it benefits massively there) but for the raid there wasn’t the points in this build to go with demo expert so ffr was preferred.
@fivenotewonder ah makes sense. I have explosive on my gause mini and my gatling plasma which are my two mains weapons. Wasn't sure if rapid would be better for the plasma. But if I'm specced for the gause (explosive perks) anyway, I'm guessing the gatling plasma would still be better to have explosive in that situation?
@@AngryTurtle Sorry if I am being a bit thick here but when I went to create a new build based off the above video the allocated points available are only 49 where do you get the 56 from
@@greenhornet3671 He has legendary perk cards equipped and maxed out, the SPECIAL ones provide 5 more points to be allocated to the stat that they pertain to and he has 3 of them equipped for +15 points to his overall SPECIAL. The legendary cards still do not allow you to have more than 15 points worth of normal cards on any one stat. He is showing his legendary perk cards at 1:00.
@rod2dodge855 i see that it's full health but his video the other day he also played bloodied. I don't remember asking you. I want to know what he perfers
Traveling pharmacy going down to 1 and thru hike reduced aswell so sentinels will be the go to option for 3rd star in my opinion and for the weapon i would rather go run a quad ultracite gatling laser with inertial and breaks slower ,i think you will chew through your repair kits in this raid especially when running back to back
Except that Sentinel's is _still_ broken, as it has been for the past 5 years. When it procs you receive the full damage reduction, but when it doesn't the damage ignores all damage reduction and armor.
Without power armor you'd probably just want to focus on endurance to pump up the resistances from Iron Stomach and Natural Resistance as well as the health from Life Giver. From what I remember, (the wikis are outdated and I can't play currently to confirm) full investment into END can get you to 40+ END with resistances rivalling PA even before adding in the defence from the armor itself.
@AngryTurtle hmm isn't it the boss snake video ? To my pops up on immediately as last upload. I don't know how to post the link here.. let me try in your discord.
Bad design to rely on the best content of the game to nerf bloodied builds. instead they should make bloodied viable on the raid and just not as strong everywhere else. Gatekeeping players from playing their favorite playstile isnt good. and before anyone says, well try something other than bloodied for a change, i have and i just prefer bloodied over everything else.
Thanks @Angry_Turtle that looks like a lot of prep and running work before we can start the raid runs.😅,👍🏼
I would swap Field Surgeon for another rank of Team Medic and a rank of Suppressor. Stimpaks working faster doesn't make them heal more, it just makes them work faster, and with Team Medic being shared you're going to be healing off your teammates' stimpaks anyway so you might as well maximize that shared healing. To go along with that, swap that Scrapper for another rank of First Aid, the increased healing will ultimately speed up your healing similar to Field Surgeon while further increasing the healing being shared. Suppressor is self-stacking and will reduce enemy damage output by up to 40% to minimize the damage making it to your armor.
What about us vegans who only eat veggies, what do you recommend we take with us or do we just sit out as we’re too weak for raids 😉😂😂😂
everything the same just pick vegan version 😅🤣
You’re gonna want lots of kinds of beans. Also snack on almonds and other healthy nuts whenever you have cravings between raids.
Good news. You actually have access to better food than the meat eaters do.
@@AngryTurtleis the dmg difference much between herbivore and carnivore? I’d be loosing out on blight soup. But is it so bad?
@marcschow Herbivore is better for damage. Carnivore is better for carry weight. It's not very surprising that turtle is a carnivore. You absolutely should be a herbivore though if carry weight isn't an issue for you.
I’m a full health, but no PA. I’m really going to have to add the right legendary effects to my power armor now. Thank you Turtle.
Overeaters is the only way
You need that overeaters recipe. I just managed to unlock it recently, thankfully.
I have hellcat 4 overeaters 1 troubleshooters, enough?
This gives me a good heads up, as to what I'm going to be doing with my perk card loadout.
I've also made an explosive Troubleshooters Gatling plasma, with durability, for the century bots.
Junkshield: Floater Pus Sacks don't autoscrap and they only weigh 0.1 pound.
How much junk do u need to carry for junk shield
@@iapprovelolis5123 100 pieces
They do drop when you die though:(
Someone will definitely snatch them
100 pieces @@iapprovelolis5123
@@philistine3260 honestly, in endgame build, there are not so many moments when you die (that may happen once a month for me, max 2 bad month lol) and in event/raid/expedition/daily ops, you don't drop junk
Great guide, looks like a lot of people are going to find this raid quite hard looking at this set up
The video we’ve all been wanting🎉 Thanks AT!
I can’t wait for that one player who comes in like full leather or raider armor
Perfect timing started to create my raid character today…
For luck as an alternative I chose : 4 legendary special instead of 3 (change of PA reboot for funky duds for last boss, I don't want to move legendary specials when not in raid), max luck perks + luck legendary perk for 20 points, and for my 2 PA : 2 pieces with luck, 1 piece with AP regen (best benefice value for the first piece + company tea) ), 2 pieces with agility (more VATS) + seared venison with berries : so 18 luck (base+mutation) + 5 extra luck + 7 food (7.5) + 2x2 in PA = 34 luck, I reallocate 1 luck for 33 with perk points machine.
Pretty much the set up I have already. Joined you on the pts for the raid about a month ago and have been grinding the live game to get all the mods I needed for my PA and weapons and watching your videos for tips. Watched the one yesterday about calculating luck for crit shots so been changing from Agility to luck on my armour. Super hyped for the raid to go live!
Nah, I'm going in bloody commando - wish me luck :)
If that don't work, I'll try bloody ballistic heavy gunner in PA.
If I'm still getting rocked, then I'll take your advice.
😡🐢Thank you for all your help to get through this raid ... totally appreciate your words of fallout76 wisdom 😊
Sick build. I really hope i don't have to go to theae extremes to complete raids though. I can not unlock overeaters for the life of me.
Best to trade mods, I'm sure you can craft mods other players are looking for.
@@LeftysRage not worth risking getting ripped off. It’s crazy to me that Bethesda can’t give us a safe way to trade.
Go 1 point in power user , it's a good boost and sink other 2 int points into endurance. Biggest change I'd make for survival.
The new perk cards are looking amazing 🔥🔥🔥 cool guide as always 👍
ehi turtle, how does circuit breaker work on the ultragenetic moleminers? is it effective?
no
came to find out what mod box prices are gonna go up
I was thinking of using a rank 3 supressor perk card for running the raid. I wonder if it would work with damage reflected from richochet? Either way 30 percent seems substantial when it comes to staying alive. Thanks for the build ideas.
My thoughts as well. Suppressor paired with dodgy.
Syringer as well?
You can technically save 2 points by using the rank 1 card; Suppressor stacks up to 40% regardless of rank, all that changes is how long it lasts and how quickly it gets there but that doesn't really matter as long as you keep the damage going.
Question, isthere a build for bloody in the raids or do you suggest we be full health
All the videos I've seen say overeaters or some other full health. It looks like it's going to be very high damage. He says towards the end of the video while talking about food that full health will be necessary due to the unavoidable and unmitigatable damage.
Awesome Video. How high is the trigger chance on ricochet with 33 Luck in Power Armor?
I would want to only tailor one character to excel at raids. But are there good rewards that are character bound? Or could I hand stuff over to my non-raid optimized characters. Like the 4 star stuff.
the new pa
Very nice :) I was just wondering if it would be worth using 'Lucky' as a 3rd star for the Gatling plasma and have a 23+ luck build (15 base luck + 6 luck from PA second star + 3 luck from Stranger in numbers), considering coffee will get spammed during the boss fights?
Yes, definitely
@@AngryTurtle Thanks for the quick reply! I'll give it a go, and again thanks for the build, I'm looking forward to those raids!
I know body armor mods don’t work in PA but do under suit mods work?
@@TheSWSShow undersuit doesn't work in power armor unfortunately
So turtle how would you compare this new raid to the old original vault raids??
totally different experience
I kmwo it isn't advised but I'm still trying bloodied, I've got faith in my ungodly level of damage reduction
gl I have tried the first boss solo team, bloodied union with emergency protocole + max endurance in 2* and max endurance in perks, no way to survive long without vampire gatling plasma (with AA/B almost impossible). Ofc, it's not that difficult in team cause not focus on one person but that is hard anyway. Not sure staying bloodied bypass the confort of being full health in this scenario. Edit : just to mention that I didn't have dodgy, but dodgy/vats not a good symbiosis anyway.
Excellent as usual AT did not expect anything less
I’m so glad all my heavy weapons are bloodied 😂
Why not swap scraper and adrenaline for R3 Team medic and the 9 Charisma to share it?
Is sentinels still bugged after next update and how much does junk shield increase your resistance at max junk and how does luck effect the number
HI having 400 Poison resist makes a big difference for stage 4 and 5?
Toxic/Poison damage is very high over there.
for stage 5
stupid question but do you not need the ap regen on second star to have enough ap for vats ?
you need coffee not ap regen
Additional AP regen on your armor is nice as a quality of life thing, used to be very sought after but the way things are looking I might go +2 END instead for +10 END overall. The ap regen is not very effective while constantly in combat and some of the best ap regen is coming from consuming company tea and taking canned coffee as needed. More AP regen is diminishing returns. The effect is not bad though either.
@@AngryTurtleyou must be on PC because on xbox it takes me 10 secs to neck 10 coffee
Does crippling perks such as one gun army effect the shield bar on the first stage, I mean when it triggers would it drain a large chuck of its bar or does it not work at all now ?
it doesn't work anymore
@ thanks
A banner does not work in regards of reviving?
What happened to using Cola Nut + Happy Go Lucky + Nuka Dark to get Luck stats up?
you can do it, I just opted for long lasting luck for raid
Isn’t bloodied PA way tankier than full health because is nerd rage and emergency protocol? Epsciallybnow either the bullet shield/ricochet combo? You throw in born survivor and power armor reboot and you never die
It is right now. I don't know if they changed something about how damage mitigation works, but right now, a properly built bloodied PA build can easily out tank full health. I believe it was something like 91% damage is shaved off before anything even touches the DR start.
you need high health for dot and area hazards that bypass mitigation
Power Armor a must for the raid?
no but it makes raid easier
@ 1700 prob spent 1 mission in PA This is going to be a big learning curve for some
Can you run explosive effect + demo expert instead of faster fire rate or are those 5 perk points too important for other perks?
you can, there are many ways of achieving the same goal, I'm just sharing what works the best for me
Would it not make more sense to have a PA set for each stage, if we know the typing of the enemy? Snake is an animal so 75% animal damage negated would help a lot compared to Overeaters.
you could, for me it's too expensive to make so many new pa sets
How exactly does field surgeon work? Does it make the heal effect faster? Or make the initial burst bigger? I've tested it and i can't figure it out. I do use it, but I'd want to know what exactly it does lol
initial burst is faster
I know this is a build for the raid, but is rapid better than explosive in general? I've been building all of my heavy weapons with explosive as I though it was better with grenadere and demolition expert =/
In general day to day it’s a preference, they perform about the same on heavy weapons (apart from the gauss mini as that is double explosive with 2nd star explosive, so it benefits massively there) but for the raid there wasn’t the points in this build to go with demo expert so ffr was preferred.
@fivenotewonder ah makes sense. I have explosive on my gause mini and my gatling plasma which are my two mains weapons. Wasn't sure if rapid would be better for the plasma. But if I'm specced for the gause (explosive perks) anyway, I'm guessing the gatling plasma would still be better to have explosive in that situation?
What happens to the perk card we own when they change? Do i need to do something to make the most of the perk points?
no you don't need to do anything no worries
To clarify, it's 8lck on PA, 6 from the food and the rest from just perk points?
8 from the food when on a team
@@AngryTurtle Oh ok I see. Luck on all 5 pieces then. So 10 from armor + 8 from food + 15 from stats = 33.
Will the mysterious savior perk work in the raid?
no
Hey AT how do you get so many points allocated in your build but you only have 49 available points when you are starting a new build
56 is default plus 15 from legendary
@@AngryTurtle Sorry if I am being a bit thick here but when I went to create a new build based off the above video the allocated points available are only 49 where do you get the 56 from
@@greenhornet3671 He has legendary perk cards equipped and maxed out, the SPECIAL ones provide 5 more points to be allocated to the stat that they pertain to and he has 3 of them equipped for +15 points to his overall SPECIAL. The legendary cards still do not allow you to have more than 15 points worth of normal cards on any one stat. He is showing his legendary perk cards at 1:00.
@ you have 7 allocated before you start with 49 remaining
Do you think supressor lvl 3 charisma is going to be beneficial?
So mysterious savior won't help any in raids?
how good is it it if i have overeaters , +2 End on Union PA ?
very good
Do you suggest full health build?
Dude he suggests the build he just made a video about.. full health
@rod2dodge855 i see that it's full health but his video the other day he also played bloodied. I don't remember asking you. I want to know what he perfers
You should try the buffed tesla cannon
I did and will upload video when I will have time to edit I was recording a lot as pts is closing today.
@@mdskjoker I need details
@@AngryTurtle Take your time and don't rush it. 😁🐢
@D3monWo1f They directly.
Buffed the damage, ammo capacity, etc
Very Useful 👍
Thanks a lot
Why does his gat plasma say 50 percent armor penetration as the first star and then it says 20 percent armor penetration at the bottom with no star ?
GP is getting new mods with next update
@ ooo sweet thanks for the reply 👍 love your videos
@@AngryTurtle Including a Flamer Barrel. That thing should be the new non-raid bosskiller.
Can you use HalluciGen grenade on the moleminers?
I didn't try but generally they are immune to cc
Brother, you need to test out whether Miasma and Viper 4 Star can be a combo (non strangle user)
Brother, one more thing to test out. Does healing factor mutation be combined with sawbones or rejuvenator
I've done 20+ of the raids, it's just 90% unimaginative Bethesda bullet sponges, & the rewards suck too!
hello the patch supposed to be released today where did it go?? no one talks about it anymore..
it was never today, December is the patch
Thank you
Full health, vampiric chainsaw tank, ez solo
I did not watched your pts on the raid so i can experience first time without knowing, but, it is really that hard? Now im getting excited haha
roughly 10x harder than anything that we have in the game so far
@AngryTurtle cool, cant wait, thanks for the answer
I must have missed it what food are you doing?
I showed it, there should be a time stamp
@@AngryTurtle thank you
LETS GOOOOOOOOO!! Thanks 🐢
The worst part, will be needing to etiher buy a new build slot, or retooling my crafting build into a raid build, bleh.
Wen raid?
Putting points towards planning to fail is bad in any game. And I guess sentinels won't be fixed in time for raid, so sad.
Traveling pharmacy going down to 1 and thru hike reduced aswell so sentinels will be the go to option for 3rd star in my opinion and for the weapon i would rather go run a quad ultracite gatling laser with inertial and breaks slower ,i think you will chew through your repair kits in this raid especially when running back to back
Except that Sentinel's is _still_ broken, as it has been for the past 5 years. When it procs you receive the full damage reduction, but when it doesn't the damage ignores all damage reduction and armor.
Hopefully it gets fixed but i rather run sentinals with a chance of reduction rather than nothing
I'm not interested in power armor at all. Are raids gonna be possible without PA, or do I just quit Fallout for a season?
you can go without pa, it's just easier with pa
Without power armor you'd probably just want to focus on endurance to pump up the resistances from Iron Stomach and Natural Resistance as well as the health from Life Giver. From what I remember, (the wikis are outdated and I can't play currently to confirm) full investment into END can get you to 40+ END with resistances rivalling PA even before adding in the defence from the armor itself.
Well after 6 years bethesda finally gave me a reason to go full health... for now.
Have a look Alex-1017-K youtuber. Solo raids. Boss kill around 3 min :) melee build.
the current raid or old version?
@AngryTurtle the current. :) There is actually a new video for 54 sec :)) Cheers, mate.
@ I just checked and he doesn't have any videos in current raid version
@AngryTurtle hmm isn't it the boss snake video ? To my pops up on immediately as last upload. I don't know how to post the link here.. let me try in your discord.
@ the difficulty is in this order: stage 2 (most difficult), 4, 3, 5, 1 So boss fight is second easiest stage
Nobody has a 4th star yet so why show it
Need to do a non 4th star build
There are a million 3 star builds for this game already. Git gud lol.
that's why I said ignore the 4th star
So here’s what you do. Close your eyes. Imagine the 4th star isn’t there. Boom, you have the build you request.
Bad design to rely on the best content of the game to nerf bloodied builds. instead they should make bloodied viable on the raid and just not as strong everywhere else. Gatekeeping players from playing their favorite playstile isnt good. and before anyone says, well try something other than bloodied for a change, i have and i just prefer bloodied over everything else.