this is my favorite gen and favorite battle even with alot of uu pokemon you still almost had him beat i wish people would play blissey more often though
A pidgeot? A bold choice but not without its perks considering it can rest-talk, curse, and even phaze with whirlwind and forces passive ground mons like steelix to switch out or phaze it.
I'm surprised nobody is using snorlax yet. Oh and you should try out belly drum Charizard. It is one of the few ways to actually pull off a fast and powerful sweep.
I run a dream eater Gengar. It is destroys everything... :D And you are lucky he didn't have snorlax. That thing destroys and outstalls everything in this gen...
the problem with using rydon as a curser is to deal with a suicune sleep talker. Curselax's do not have this problems. it is nice to remember good old times wacthing gen2 battles!thk u!
I think iron tail on an arcanine isn't dependable enough to use. I would rather have given arcanine hp fighting to hit things like ttar. Sure it lowers his stats but it still might be better tgan a low accuracy move that is only viable for one mon (you are not gonna challenge rhydon with arcanine)
In a metagame where there are like 20 good pokemon this isn't really an issue. Snorlax may require 2 counters per team but the metagame is so small it hardly matters, nobody bats an eyelid when they use for example both Steelix and Misdreavus to check him because theyre both very good pokemon anyway. You don't need "specific" things to deal with him. He may be by far the most overcentralising thing ever but GSC would be so much worse without him, he makes offense actually worth using.
weird how arcanine and alakazam are the two highest tiered pokemon on your team in 5th gen but theyre the lowest in 2nd gen. the mechanics were really different back then
there is a difference between counter and check. Blaziken has NO counter. after a SD, it basically Destroyed everything in its sight within a 1 turn setup move. the boosts of having Hi-Jump Kick and Shadow claw in it movepool made it so that it can 2hko EVERYTHING in the OU meta, except slowbro, literally just Slowbro. and i wouldn't say slowbro is anything close to standard. it basically was the same reason why Garchomp hit the list in gen 4, and thats w/o Speed boost Snorlax CAN be countered
Hi Xenon, I was wondering how Ev work in second Gen. I want to make a competitive team with the pikasav, but I don't know how the EV spread works. I doubt it's anything like gen 4 and 5
Btw, you should have a REALLY powerfull physical attacker, almost all sleep talkers take a lot of damage from it. Actually, run your signature Marowak. It DESTROYS everything.
Xenon, you still doing those legit team battles? I have a few pokes I'd like to trade to you. Although you're allowed to change their moves if you'd like.
Yeah I remember finding it and being like WTF is THAT ,I couldnt catch it it was so hard but was it ever even in the anime for the jhoto region?I dont think so but idk
You do realize that JUST because it's counterable does NOT mean it's not broken. It means that you're going to need specific counters JUST to deal with it. Kind of like Escavalier or Speed Boost Blaziken in Fifth Gen. Sure, they had counters, but they were banned to ubers, were they not?
Yes, GSC is the most "stallish" metagame. If you're just going to ban things to make it "interesting" or faster you might as well just go back to DP or BW. And I love how you refer to Sleep Talk as "broken." Pretty funny.
Curse/Roar beats Snorlax all day and can give serious problems for sleep talkers. Counter is also quite good vs. Snorlax. Pidgeot's my favourite and I had some fun times in second gen with Curse/Whirlwind/Return/Rest, especially if you've got spikes set up. Given much better on Tyranitar or Kangaskhan but meh... I like nonsense.
+OnlyNeedJuan Gaming hey, if you want to get into having Pokemon battles of early gens, check out the youtuber Xezemaster. His channel has a tutorial with links for everything you need. We also have a skype group called Pokemon Old Generations Wifi Battle Finder.
dumb? no. The fact that you have a 33% chance to fully recover your hp while being completely immune to status conditions.Given then lackluster offense of the and amazing defenses of the generation. its broken. Yes Vaporeon is good but it dosnt counter EVERY restalker in the gen. Snorlax still gives it a hard time even WITH haze/acid armor.
sry to spread myself like this but i cant find a PU battle anywhere else....i am looking for a PU battle within this weekend...i will record it and post it as my first black and white PU wifi battle...if anyone is interested including you Xenon...pm me!
Wow great effort, confused like 5 times and missed attacks. You earned a load of respect
This was interesting but at the same time painful to watch!
His team was freaking strong, that Suicune alone was crazy!
"How can he even miss such a big ass Pokemon I mean..." lol
this is my favorite gen and favorite battle even with alot of uu pokemon you still almost had him beat i wish people would play blissey more often though
Great battle, man, your Arcanine and Rhydon have tried hard haha! Greetings from Brazil! 👏🏻
Once again another great battle thxs xenon for these battles bro :)
still enjoying my work bro, thanks. And thanks for sticking around my channel for so long man, means a ton. ill be back soon
I swear each pokemon no matter what look flucking adorable!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't subscribed to a pokemon battle channel in a while, but these gen 2 battles are just too interesting.
Great match Xenon! It was long, but worth to watch. And it's gen 2, so long matches are natural. Keep up the good work.
Once again xenon I'm truly sorry for making this a painful match for you
Epic battle. You've been very unlucky with confusions and with the final Sleep Talk, but I've found your battle performance truly epic.
2019 anybody
One of the most interesting matches I´ve ever seen... nice work Xenon! :D
Thanks for posting these. I've been really wanting a better look at people actually playing the gen2 metagame.
I enjoyed it man, I love watching your videos.
-kang
Sleep Clause shouldn't even be a thing IMO.
A pidgeot? A bold choice but not without its perks considering it can rest-talk, curse, and even phaze with whirlwind and forces passive ground mons like steelix to switch out or phaze it.
I'm surprised nobody is using snorlax yet.
Oh and you should try out belly drum Charizard. It is one of the few ways to actually pull off a fast and powerful sweep.
For the unbalanced teams you did really well man, good stuff
looks like you need a hard counter for suicune! does the move disable work on sleep talk?
they are set to have a certain IV spread so they only have 2 types of HP and as u say, are also weaker, they also take longer to appear on the field
:0 inception suicune
great game as always
arcanine really looks like he does NOT wanna be chosen lol
17 minutes and the video was speeding. thats a long battle
I run a dream eater Gengar. It is destroys everything... :D
And you are lucky he didn't have snorlax. That thing destroys and outstalls everything in this gen...
the problem with using rydon as a curser is to deal with a suicune sleep talker. Curselax's do not have this problems.
it is nice to remember good old times wacthing gen2 battles!thk u!
Arcanine is always needed on a team :)
An hour long battle? I think you broke a world record.
I know this video is old but you fought bravely against a stronger team. Darn gen 2 was so slow!
Half of it was due to an HP bar glitch involving one line of code
I love how you forget to mention the double crit, 1 on suicune and 1 on his Tyranitar coming in.
I think iron tail on an arcanine isn't dependable enough to use. I would rather have given arcanine hp fighting to hit things like ttar. Sure it lowers his stats but it still might be better tgan a low accuracy move that is only viable for one mon (you are not gonna challenge rhydon with arcanine)
nice battle man !! can you connect to the xat from time to time because we need your help out there
In a metagame where there are like 20 good pokemon this isn't really an issue. Snorlax may require 2 counters per team but the metagame is so small it hardly matters, nobody bats an eyelid when they use for example both Steelix and Misdreavus to check him because theyre both very good pokemon anyway. You don't need "specific" things to deal with him. He may be by far the most overcentralising thing ever but GSC would be so much worse without him, he makes offense actually worth using.
Shadow Ball's a physical type move, that's why it didn't K.O.
sigh back when stealth rocks and perma weather were a fleeting thought :(
Doctor, I feel week lately.
Just go to Rest and start Sleep Talking.
NIce video Xenon
Your voice is really cool
I found out about the Sleep Talk thing on PO. It's so broken.
Where do you play these WiFi battles?
weird how arcanine and alakazam are the two highest tiered pokemon on your team in 5th gen but theyre the lowest in 2nd gen. the mechanics were really different back then
there is a difference between counter and check. Blaziken has NO counter. after a SD, it basically Destroyed everything in its sight within a 1 turn setup move. the boosts of having Hi-Jump Kick and Shadow claw in it movepool made it so that it can 2hko EVERYTHING in the OU meta, except slowbro, literally just Slowbro. and i wouldn't say slowbro is anything close to standard. it basically was the same reason why Garchomp hit the list in gen 4, and thats w/o Speed boost
Snorlax CAN be countered
took me a minute to remember you and spade are disciples of Xenon, everything you guys say is true though, I completely agree.
ever heard of spikes?
Hi Xenon, I was wondering how Ev work in second Gen.
I want to make a competitive team with the pikasav, but I don't know how the EV spread works.
I doubt it's anything like gen 4 and 5
Stat EXP allows for 65535 stat EXP across all stats, allowing for significantly bulkier pokes than is normal in later gens
Back when I understood the metagame.
how did you stay sane after this? I would never play the damn game again...
Btw, you should have a REALLY powerfull physical attacker, almost all sleep talkers take a lot of damage from it.
Actually, run your signature Marowak. It DESTROYS everything.
Xenon, you still doing those legit team battles? I have a few pokes I'd like to trade to you. Although you're allowed to change their moves if you'd like.
oh yeah, I like how it says YOU LOSE!
Funnily enough, Rest can be called via Sleep Talk only in this Generation. :c
damn sleep talk is powerful!
LOL Sleep talk is fraking broken XD
How did you set up sleep clause for the battle?
Yeah I remember finding it and being like WTF is THAT ,I couldnt catch it it was so hard but was it ever even in the anime for the jhoto region?I dont think so but idk
waait skarmory in 2nd gen? seems familiar but can someone give me some recap ?
continue these vids! but do a roulette LP !
14:53 was either a bug or a cheat.
Your Rhydon used Course, but was still faster than its Panzaeron.
yo forgot whirlwind has negative priority so it will always go second
Sturdy doesn't work like it does in 5th gen.
Great game
You do realize that JUST because it's counterable does NOT mean it's not broken. It means that you're going to need specific counters JUST to deal with it. Kind of like Escavalier or Speed Boost Blaziken in Fifth Gen. Sure, they had counters, but they were banned to ubers, were they not?
Btw that Skarmory had Sturdy
how do you have a wifi battle in gen 2
Best stallers ever (in this gen)
Snorlax
Skarm
Blissey
Tyrannitar
Suicune
Yes, GSC is the most "stallish" metagame. If you're just going to ban things to make it "interesting" or faster you might as well just go back to DP or BW.
And I love how you refer to Sleep Talk as "broken." Pretty funny.
In any case, there weren't even any abilities in 2nd gen.
I still battle on the cable connection gameboy sps
they have to do the shiny animation, is totally matters
Really? Dang man, I didn't know that. I think it's because I never experienced an hour battle before. :/
Dude, i'm trying to fight a friend via internet, but we can't. How you do it?
Curse/Roar beats Snorlax all day and can give serious problems for sleep talkers. Counter is also quite good vs. Snorlax. Pidgeot's my favourite and I had some fun times in second gen with Curse/Whirlwind/Return/Rest, especially if you've got spikes set up. Given much better on Tyranitar or Kangaskhan but meh... I like nonsense.
can someone please tell me how to get to play my pokemon gold over wi fi?
So you can play gold/silver online with a DS?
Me too XD I thought you had to connect with 2 GBC's
I feel very special now, because I lost the game
About 2 hours long game? That's Dragon Ball Z level of battle for ya
04:20 lol NurseJoy? if this isint too hard to do i would do this
you should get a vote going, to ban Sleep Talk. It's Extremely broken, I wouldn't want to play GSC matches with that going on.
4:40 How did he get Heal Bell???
Milktank will never be Male.. i dont get it.
From Granbull, who itself inherited it from Smeargle.
Check here: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blissey_(Pok%C3%A9mon)/Generation_II_learnset
I didn't know G/S/C had wifi o_o
Pain...gg
why does blastoise have rapidspin
How do you even do that? I mean, like, how do you do WiFi battles in Generations 1, 2, and 3?!
Emulators.
Justin Morssink How with Emulators? ;)
+Le' Moob Man HIGH. I LIKE PLAY POKAMANS. WHO WILL PLAY WITH ME?
+OnlyNeedJuan Gaming hey, if you want to get into having Pokemon battles of early gens, check out the youtuber Xezemaster. His channel has a tutorial with links for everything you need. We also have a skype group called Pokemon Old Generations Wifi Battle Finder.
I'm pretty sure he was just joking! There wern't even any abilities in 2nd Gen!
Tough battle
LOL DAT THUMBNAIL.
Agreed.
Btw, don't run shinies. They have lower stats than everything else. ...Or at least that's the case with PO...
why do you have rapid spin lol. there's no rocks in 2nd gen
what is sleep talk?
3:02 LOL
Yeah, I knew what I meant. v.v It's 2:30 AM here. >.>
He Pikasavs his pokemon, so he hacks them into his game and so the takes longer to appear doesn't matter.
No way u have to do something about sleep talk.
Its more broken than sand rush excadrill.
dumb? no. The fact that you have a 33% chance to fully recover your hp while being completely immune to status conditions.Given then lackluster offense of the and amazing defenses of the generation. its broken. Yes Vaporeon is good but it dosnt counter EVERY restalker in the gen. Snorlax still gives it a hard time even WITH haze/acid armor.
Damn Gold, so stalley :p
How are you play gold silver and crystal online????
6 years in and never got an answer
sry to spread myself like this but i cant find a PU battle anywhere else....i am looking for a PU battle within this weekend...i will record it and post it as my first black and white PU wifi battle...if anyone is interested including you Xenon...pm me!
Do I look stupid i know that it was a joke because it lived on one hp XD
There were no abilities till 3rd gen