Challenger - the story of Peugeot in the 1984 WRC

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  • Опубликовано: 13 мар 2020
  • Film produced on behalf of Peugeot by Jean Louis Mourey, chronicling the debut season of the Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 and its fortunes on the 1984 Tour de Corse, Acropolis, 1000 Lakes, Sanremo and RAC Rallies.
    This movie was produced for commercial purposes and the commentary, clearly translated literally from a French script, reflects this. It is uploaded here, however, because of the quality of the footage and the behind-the-scenes material, which is exceptional for the era. For VHS Rallies' exclusive range of classic rallying t-shirts, hoodies and mugs, visit vhsrallies.teemill.com
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Комментарии • 91

  • @Marvdogger2
    @Marvdogger2 4 года назад +53

    A company in Monaco now owns all the footage shot for Peugeot. Real shame they have no interest in releasing the archive.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +12

      Very interesting to hear.

  • @VectorOfKnowledge
    @VectorOfKnowledge 2 года назад +20

    Love these vintage documentaries. Information stated plainly and to the point, lots of technical details, great footage, and music used sparingly and tastefully.

  • @barristanselmy2758
    @barristanselmy2758 2 года назад +6

    Man these the sweetest cars ever. They just never looked or sounded any better than this here, The little 205, the AUDI. Man just so nostalgic to look at i grew up watching rallies in the early 90's as a kid. Seeing this again now, it's great. I used to watch the Poss in his Subaru Kiwi Rally Fan here

  • @edak482
    @edak482 3 года назад +10

    Let's not forget those RALLY-MECHANICS working under the sky in all weather conditions, day and night. My greatest respect for those guys that never get mentioned.

    • @tomlepski8306
      @tomlepski8306 Год назад +2

      I will forever remember Boreham's Mick Jones among the cream of live stage rally mechanics.

  • @TheLRider
    @TheLRider 4 года назад +10

    Was cheering Vatanen on in the Welsh forests in 84. Absolutely brilliant footage and showes once and for all that Audi were only winning against two wheel drive opposition and as soon as the T16 appeared they were no longer competitive. And yet they have milked that period for all its worth and really created the Audi brand. Marketing eh!!

  • @richardbryant7505
    @richardbryant7505 4 года назад +20

    Best rally channel on the tube

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +6

      That really is very kind of you to say so. Thanks for such positive feedback.

  • @BungleBare
    @BungleBare 4 года назад +13

    In every bit of footage of Group B rallies in Continental Europe until the end of ‘86 you can be assured of seeing spectators seemingly doing their best to get themselves killed. Crazy days.

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 3 года назад +5

      I can not imagine how much faster & difficult would have continue with the WRC Group-S which suppose to follow as next level mid-engine after Group-B.. so many secret prototypes that can be found in museums like : Audi Sport Group S, Peugeot 405 Turbo16 & Quasar, Lancia ECV1 & ECV2, Ford RS 200S, Mazda RX7S, Toyota MR-(222D), Lada Samara EVA, Seat ibiza bi-motor, Vauxhal Astra 4S/Kadett E-4S.. (Porsche, Talbot, Citroen & Mitshubishi dropped they 'r works very quickly after Group B banning but all were planning to enter in WRC Group-S..)

    • @Wirefox1
      @Wirefox1 3 года назад +1

      And that's the main reason they banned the Group B cars. It wasn't really the speed or the skill it took to drive them, it was the fact that spectators got whipped up into a frenzy and couldn't/wouldn't be controlled.

    • @OrientedRain374
      @OrientedRain374 2 года назад +1

      @@Wirefox1 Group B was banned due to the cars being too dangerous but also because of the spectators. There were many reasons but the main reason was the cars. Modern technology could bring group b back.

  • @tomlepski8306
    @tomlepski8306 Год назад +4

    Wow! What incredible and amazing historic footage! Well done Monsieur Mourey, just like CLIMB DANCE, this does justice to PTS.

  • @TCJD2024
    @TCJD2024 3 года назад +5

    The Peugeot is my favourite classic rally car, and I watch this because I'm a huge fan of classic rally so this peaked my interest enough for me to watch it and I cant stop watching it

  • @christiandesayes4718
    @christiandesayes4718 Год назад +1

    thanks for sharing from france my friend my 20 years old BACk

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  Год назад

      Thanks for visiting

    • @christiandesayes4718
      @christiandesayes4718 Год назад

      thanks for your channel and in uk you have all pieces of engine and all for english cars like in the usa good for you in france if you had a car of the seventies apart chinesse pieces of shit NOTHING ! happy week end to you

  • @ericcraig8205
    @ericcraig8205 4 года назад +8

    Seems like yesterday,after group B it was never the same,great upload

  • @polzovatel009
    @polzovatel009 4 года назад +10

    Damn, I never saw this archive, thanks a lot dude.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +1

      Ah, hope there's some more in the channel that you like.

  • @SteveM-ly7oy
    @SteveM-ly7oy 4 года назад +18

    I don't know where you get these from but I love them.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +13

      I digitise old rally videos for free. So the tapes are supplied to me by various people - some have found me through RUclips, others through Twitter or Facebook. Glad you like the material I share here.

  • @mrmorizofan7001
    @mrmorizofan7001 Год назад

    Those on route services are just pure gold. mechanics doing their things and drivers getting prepped to next stage

  • @garinakbar1907
    @garinakbar1907 4 года назад +3

    You know what, The way Peugeot 205 debuted in 1984 season was later repeated by Peugeot 206, when the 206 debuted in Corsica, Acropolis, Finland, San Remo and then RAC just like the 205 goes, and also it achieves success the following year for both 205 and 206

  • @tomvarcoe3100
    @tomvarcoe3100 4 года назад +2

    Amazing to be able to watch this years after the survivor cars are in collections .

  • @AriVatanen1981
    @AriVatanen1981 4 года назад

    Another great upload thank you 👍

  • @lukaswilfinger8752
    @lukaswilfinger8752 4 года назад +1

    what an amazing footage. thanks a lot for the upload.

  • @sportquattro8430
    @sportquattro8430 4 года назад +1

    Awesome new find, thx!!

  • @sefikempowermentcoachvilla7843
    @sefikempowermentcoachvilla7843 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic 👍👍 such iconic cars and era. Thanks

  • @alexharris2313
    @alexharris2313 2 года назад +1

    Amazing footage. Thank you for uploading

  • @happysnapper6132
    @happysnapper6132 4 года назад +2

    Keep them coming buddy...

  • @grantdeancommons5390
    @grantdeancommons5390 Год назад

    Great footage and history of the classic rally stages ,one of my fave cars the Peugeot 205 turbo 16

  • @theovermeersch9367
    @theovermeersch9367 4 года назад +3

    Great content! 😊

  • @lusilk7954
    @lusilk7954 3 года назад

    many thanks 🙏🏼

  • @cakeofthepan2233
    @cakeofthepan2233 Год назад

    Nana’s taking the kids for a day of knitting and rally 😂….those were the good times

  • @peeterpeeretas1847
    @peeterpeeretas1847 4 года назад +1

    Quality upload!

  • @alc-d4163
    @alc-d4163 4 года назад +2

    So glad that I stumble across this channel, can't wait to binge watch some more!

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +1

      What took you so long? Enjoy. :)

  • @roberthaviar8243
    @roberthaviar8243 Год назад

    Great documentary!

  • @scoobyking555cm
    @scoobyking555cm 4 года назад +1

    Simply awesome 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🏁

  • @MOSSFEEN
    @MOSSFEEN 4 года назад

    Thanks for that really enjoyable

  • @riccardomorino2360
    @riccardomorino2360 3 года назад

    Thank you for these fantstic videos

  • @emdub2003
    @emdub2003 Год назад

    Only just found this channel. Amazing! Thank you so much for making this content available. What an era.

  • @mbturbo-bq3rg
    @mbturbo-bq3rg 4 года назад +6

    Love it. They are (still) true beasts and what a sound. P.S. @ 0:51 homogaletion?

  • @sarahtaggart7397
    @sarahtaggart7397 4 года назад

    HAVE THIS ON TAPE FROM YEARS AGO SOMEWHERE ALONG WITH A LOT OF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS OF SAME ERA ALL BE IT THEY ARE NARRATED IN FOREIGN LINGO ! GREAT UPLOAD NICE TO SEE AGAIN ! 👍👍👍

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад

      If you have old tapes from this era then perhaps I can help. Easy to find me on Twitter and Facebook if you want to get in touch.

  • @ranjitsian5481
    @ranjitsian5481 2 года назад

    Good one

  • @gothicpagan.666
    @gothicpagan.666 4 года назад +4

    And still they keep coming👌
    The car that saved Peugeot(road car that is, not the T16)

  • @markc1456
    @markc1456 4 года назад

    Awesome video! Anymore?

  • @mahatmaaaa3955
    @mahatmaaaa3955 3 года назад

    Paduu 🥺🥺

  • @jakeyorath2325
    @jakeyorath2325 8 месяцев назад

    If I was hiring a guy to do the voiceover for a video about my homologation special, I'd make sure he could say "homologation"!

  • @paulpearson3744
    @paulpearson3744 4 года назад +3

    Unbelievably awesome video. Many thanks vhs rallies🤝👌👍🤜🤛. Rock n roll man🤘. This is absolute gold💯 and I'm only 13 seconds in! I wander how many of those road versions are left? A GTI on steroids💪. They must be a good £200k plus now. I'm probably way off. More probably. Rarer than chicken teeth! I've seen lancia 037 road versions North of £300k

    • @chrisbeare9486
      @chrisbeare9486 4 года назад +1

      I've only seen one at an autosport show! Agree so rare. Stunning

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 года назад

      @@chrisbeare9486 I've never seen 1 in this country t16 or 037. I've only ever seen a legit rs200 driving c reg(early 86 when they 1st landed). It was about 1996 I saw the car literally driving normal down the road in North London. Pure white version. But I remember like it was yesterday. Even original Group A styled sierra (rs500 or not) and escort cosworths and lancia deltas are fetching 80 to 100 grand plus. They are absolutely amazing cars. 👍

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 года назад +1

      @@chrisbeare9486 it's kind of laughable that r200 were like 18 grand brand new in 86 and a sierra cosworth 16 grand. They are more valuable now than some houses

    • @lukaswilfinger8752
      @lukaswilfinger8752 4 года назад

      there are a couple left. in switzerland there is one for sale for 250k. couple years ago you can get one for 100k. crazy, but also an amazing car

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 года назад

      @@lukaswilfinger8752 cool. my estimate wasn't far off then🤘. I'm not religious and even though ari vatanen never won the title in the 205,,he is still god to me for the way he drove that car. Unbelievably awesome. I still get goosebumps watching this stuff. Makes the current day version of wrc look like Thomas the tank engine. I still can't believe how good it was!!👍

  • @jamesrobert4106
    @jamesrobert4106 Год назад

    There is footage somewhere of a T16 in a service stop in Portugal, I believe having a mechanic remove 2 very cooked, spectator fingers from the rear intake radiator 😬

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  Год назад

      Heard that one so many times, without any official evidence, that I've long since filed it under urban myth. But it's a great bar tale.

  • @paulleggett9735
    @paulleggett9735 4 года назад +3

    Go on.. Say Audi again

  • @f2cmadmaxx
    @f2cmadmaxx 4 года назад +2

    Ordee :D

  • @Manufly59
    @Manufly59 6 месяцев назад

    Who said: "If you want to win you need Finn!"

  • @037cwash
    @037cwash 4 года назад

    22.02-22.06 💪🏻💪🏻

  • @paulpearson3744
    @paulpearson3744 4 года назад +2

    9:47...it's stocktaking time (brilliant! ) . No disrespect to the excellent commentary by Julian porter in the current day version but I way prefer the way this sport was presented back then and right up to about 02 to be fair. It was fine as a half hour end of day summary for each leg on eurosport or something. They have tried to make it too live and in your face now and it feels a lot more repetitive. I don't like the current day "power stage" thing either. Driver's points were a lot harder to earn back then and only the top 6 scored. The restart rules are a joke too. If a car crashes out? That should be it! I don't rate the likes of ogier and loeb as highly as Alen, Toivonen, Vatanen and Rohl by a long shot. And although helicopter shots are good.. They are completely over saturated now and that boring/almost depressing sound of the helicopter blade spinning round like a bloody giant lawnmower with the throttle stuck open. It was way classier and more watchable here.

  • @mansoormannix1753
    @mansoormannix1753 Год назад

    I heard Peugeot 504 and 206 won WRC 2 wheels category thrice in a raw before pulled out of the race?

  • @georgiosdavaroukas2793
    @georgiosdavaroukas2793 10 месяцев назад

    Αρι....Αρι....Αρι....

  • @mohdjesriothman3360
    @mohdjesriothman3360 Год назад

    this celica twin cam turbo ta22 is keep by toyota team europe in colgone germany

  • @georgekaravasilistvchannel
    @georgekaravasilistvchannel 4 года назад

    Was stage in 7:25

    • @Marvdogger2
      @Marvdogger2 4 года назад +1

      George Karavasilis SS3 Loukisia

    • @georgekaravasilistvchannel
      @georgekaravasilistvchannel 4 года назад +1

      @@Marvdogger2 thank you I love the stage loukisia and why stop the stage in there

  • @mansoormannix1753
    @mansoormannix1753 Год назад

    Peugeot was favorite car for everyone in Africa until the domination of economic Japanese cars especially Toyotas.

  • @guyjones3665
    @guyjones3665 4 года назад

    Mid 80s snot rockets..

  • @user-rc4bl8qr2c
    @user-rc4bl8qr2c 2 года назад

    フロントノーズも短く 全長も短い ドライバーにとっては操り易い車両です ラリーは最高速2百キロクラシックなのでフロントノーズはあまり長くなくても良い フランスのラリーカーはゴタゴタしてなくてシンプルです タイヤフェンダーも前後あまり膨らんで居ない Bカーなので膨らましても良かったが 会えてプジョースポールは膨らませ無かった!今のラリーカーはタイヤからの空気?抜きのためサンドイッチが置けるほど前後を膨らまし空気?抜きをタイヤの後ろ側でやっているけどデザイン的には私は美しくない 空気抜きはしていないがイグニスのタイヤフェンダーはハウス はそんな感じでなんかブサイク?に診える。

  • @makzym0109
    @makzym0109 4 года назад

    on 0.52 he talks about homogalation?

  • @ArZer
    @ArZer 3 года назад +1

    How peugeot went from this awesome 205T16 to an Shit that is 307cc. Like what happened?

  • @Jason-vp8nd
    @Jason-vp8nd Год назад

    Oh my God but what about all the climate change oh my God aren't we supposed to be dead already over that SMH

  • @WannesDeBacker
    @WannesDeBacker 4 года назад +1

    When Peugeots weren't absolute shit cars