"He can figure out from his HP whether his Speed DV is even or odd, and he can find out from that whether he's faster than Starmie." This is why speedrunners are awesome.
In Gen I and II, the game only stored four DVs, so instead of storing a DV for HP, it calculated the DV for HP based on which other IVs were even or odd. What's truly impressive is not the ability to look up that information on a wiki, but being able to use it to make determinations on the fly while also playing the game nearly flawlessly.
I remember watching a Gen 2 speedrun at one point where the runner, having hit an extra trainer, started doing "on the fly money routing" at the Goldenrod Department Store, completley recalculating what he needed to buy and working in a few extra items to save time later... all while still flawlessly speedrunning.
I know i'm 4 years late, but the commentary on this run is great! Really appreciated the dude in the middle explaining all sorts of things throughout the run.
It sucked that Shen didn't play in the events, but at least he was there. Besides that he was the best at explaining the dips and tricks to the run. Keizaron (As usual) always putting humor into everything that he does and that is what makes him enjoyable. Praise Helix.
Unfortunately I think most of the games past 3rd gen aren't super interesting to watch because the lack of glitches, so pokemon blocks would probably take a ton of time after gen 1 and 2.
Unfortunately Pokémon is definitely not a marathon safe game and there are many games where it's really hard to come up with a marathon safe route. Some games are also not really actively ran (thinking gen 5), but I agree in general that if Mega Man can have hours and hours every marathon then Pokémon deserves at least 3-4 hours in total.
there are actually quite a few cool glitches in the gen 4 games which get used in speedruns, including an OOB in diamond and pearl that skips from just after the 2nd badge to the hall of fame. also, just because they don't have glitches doesn't make them bad speed games, this run was glitchless and still very entertaining to watch
The later generation games average at about 3 to 3 and a half hours for a glitchless speedrun, so doing multiple back-to-back would take the better part of a day. A shame, because the later gen speedruns are pretty interesting to watch.
Gunner: "I'm packing a much more versatile team at this point" LOL. His Level 13 Oddish CRUSHED a Level 53 Venusaur. I would call that versatility. WHat a kick arse team
normally glitchless is a really boring run to watch because it's like a planned let's play but this run was very fun to watch thanks to all the runners and commentary so credit to them
Well that's why I call it lenient. It sort of conforms to what other games call these types of runs, even though it clearly abuses some unintended glitches. (That can be avoided)
Starting up a gameboy color (not sure about gameboy player) if you hold a combination of d-pad and a/b you get a different color palate playing a GB game.
i thought the guy in the black shirt had won the race, and then i saw he was the "3rd" place. they need to fix how they arrange players in the seats and the order of the screen, because they don't make any sense at all if you don't know the runners before hand.
Yep :) I noticed the music change when Tricky took the lead after skipping water gun, then when he failed the Misty fight and Gunner took the lead, it changed to Gunner :)
Look carefully at the runner's names... there is a musical note besides the runner's name whom is actively providing sound. It changes with the source. Also, can't really say who is in the lead at any given moment as some of these runners are using a slightly different route.
21:39 It's not at all unlikely to have to face a pokemon, going by what he said. The chance is 1-(31/32)^28=0.59. So it's a slightly bigger chance to meet a pokemon than not.
Playing on TVs requires consoles (I think most runners use a GameCube). As for learning, there are tutorials scattered here and there on the pokemonspeedruns wiki, this is the one for the race you just watched: wiki.pokemonspeedruns.com/index.php/Pokémon_Red/Blue/Any%25_Glitchless/NidokingRouteExarion
+Tefl0nc0ugar You can play them through the SNES with the Super Game Boy or you can play it on GameCube with wires that connect from the controller ports to a GameBoy Advanced.
Hey, who is that between Klonoa and Megaman at the start there? Also, that donation from TheBakaBrigade201 at the very end was just golden. I'd type out a Cirno_Tv emote, but it's RUclips, so...
Great run, loving the Gen 1 nostalgia. Just a quick question, is there any reason they chose Pokemon Red rather than Blue for this run, other than Blue would be run next?
People didn't know about the Flute being usable in battle?... What kinda freak kid was I? Edit - 1:58:03 Oh my god.... I did the same thing as a kid. XD I was a youngling who didn't get that you had to train everything, so I just had a piddly little bellsprout as my last pokemon facing off against the rival in Silph Co and HOO. It took a while, but I was so proud that it wasn't a loss. Not actually sure how I had enough potions to hold up through Struggling, but I did.
In any% glitchless, it is just beat the gyms and elite four without using anything classified as a glitch. There is a 151 Pokémon category that is very glitched and was ran at SGDQ 2015
Kudos to that commentator for being able to explain everything clearly and still focus on all four screens at once.
he's really good, he needs to announce more often
I was bummed when shen wasn't in the race but commentator suits him better for this run
Patrick Lydon I love having someone like him who can explain while the others can just focus
Deadass
That’s cuz he’s shenanigans he lives and breaths Pokémon
"He can figure out from his HP whether his Speed DV is even or odd, and he can find out from that whether he's faster than Starmie."
This is why speedrunners are awesome.
In Gen I and II, the game only stored four DVs, so instead of storing a DV for HP, it calculated the DV for HP based on which other IVs were even or odd. What's truly impressive is not the ability to look up that information on a wiki, but being able to use it to make determinations on the fly while also playing the game nearly flawlessly.
I remember watching a Gen 2 speedrun at one point where the runner, having hit an extra trainer, started doing "on the fly money routing" at the Goldenrod Department Store, completley recalculating what he needed to buy and working in a few extra items to save time later... all while still flawlessly speedrunning.
BigKlingy that sounds heckin’ rad
Near the end of race: Alright well time to focus on Exarion finish the race.
*Gunner with the Oddish fighting Venusaur* This is much more interesting.
shennaningans is such a good speaker
I know i'm 4 years late, but the commentary on this run is great! Really appreciated the dude in the middle explaining all sorts of things throughout the run.
My comment is 4 years late, but 100% I agree with you mate
That Oddish vs Bulbasaur fight was the best thing about the race.
Venusaur*
That was probably the most hype thing I've ever seen. Lol
min?
+FaceTheWind 1:58:01 upper left screen
That's how you beat a Venusuar.
Except...
Maybe with a level 100 Nidoking and level 100 Mew that both were glitches in?
13:05 countdown.
Thanks for the time of the countdown instead of the time of start, I like that a little better :)
ty ^^
Waas i
Thank you kindly.
Gracias amigo
I like how this run was uploaded at the exact time I was looking for it.
1:00:00 - Neat optical illusion on the right side!
"What if we press each other's controller?"
"That would be adorable." XD
Mhmm~
At first I was dissapointed Shenanigans wasn't running this time... then I heard his soothing voice and knew everything was right in the world.
Every once in a while i came back on these speedruns of pokemon by gdq just to feel happy
This game is held together by paperclips, string, and hope. Even in a glitchless category, it's a mess.
And yet, it's by far the most interesting
That oddish is the true mvp
all hail the based Oddish
Appreciate the interview with Mr. Llama, but I think it should be bundled in with the D2 run video.
It sucked that Shen didn't play in the events, but at least he was there. Besides that he was the best at explaining the dips and tricks to the run. Keizaron (As usual) always putting humor into everything that he does and that is what makes him enjoyable. Praise Helix.
Tricky's color palette was crazy, especially when he was in Rock Tunnel.
In the end, friendship won. What a wonderful race.
I love how they all got first at one point in the race! Rare in a 4 players race! Excellent job everyone! :D
40:22 "You do not want to deal with Oddish"
Little did he know...
Shenanigans is the best possible commentator for something like this
Next AGDQ we need an odish only run incentive
G O D D I S H
That was Nuptup, Absorber of Souls, Transcender of Dimensions
+monkeylemur Destroyer of Worlds. Guardian of the Fifth Dimension.
Gunner didn't choose the helix, so he didn't get his paras. PRAISE THE HELIX
+Mr. Realist so funny, thanks for the highly entertaining comment :)
+Watta Mugen PRAISE DOME AND DOWN WITH HELIX!
I got the skull fossil recently in pokemon diamond, does that count?
NIklas Felder D: heresy
LORD HELIX SAVE US> PRAISE BE TO HELIX!
Why is the game play so far ahead of commentary?
OMFG! that ODDISH is a HERO! What a wonderful race! How did i miss this live? ... really...
Good to see some Espeon fans :) little pink powerhouse, or green if your mine!
Gotta love that original Lavender Town theme.
I would love to see more than 2 Pokemon runs at GDQ events... maybe an 8-hour Pokemon-block including all generations from 1 through 7?
Unfortunately I think most of the games past 3rd gen aren't super interesting to watch because the lack of glitches, so pokemon blocks would probably take a ton of time after gen 1 and 2.
Unfortunately Pokémon is definitely not a marathon safe game and there are many games where it's really hard to come up with a marathon safe route. Some games are also not really actively ran (thinking gen 5), but I agree in general that if Mega Man can have hours and hours every marathon then Pokémon deserves at least 3-4 hours in total.
there are actually quite a few cool glitches in the gen 4 games which get used in speedruns, including an OOB in diamond and pearl that skips from just after the 2nd badge to the hall of fame. also, just because they don't have glitches doesn't make them bad speed games, this run was glitchless and still very entertaining to watch
The later generation games average at about 3 to 3 and a half hours for a glitchless speedrun, so doing multiple back-to-back would take the better part of a day. A shame, because the later gen speedruns are pretty interesting to watch.
wats ur favorite post 3rd gen speed run and if possiable post the time and the runner
we all saw it keizaron.
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Keizaron is a meme among men
I love hearing the runners do all their pokemath on the fly.
Golbat always throws me off on these games. Craziest looking pokemon ever
Gunner: "I'm packing a much more versatile team at this point" LOL. His Level 13 Oddish CRUSHED a Level 53 Venusaur. I would call that versatility. WHat a kick arse team
48:25
is 9-11 a thing??
Probably a date
Keizaron missing 3 of the first like 6 tackles of the run is so on-brand for his GDQ experience :'D
That was the most wholesome ending to a race I've ever seen
Pokemon and Dark souls runs are easily my fav things to watch at GDQ's. Which is sad because there's so few of them
Wait shennanigans didn't do anything this gdq? ☹️
it seems :(
he didn't play but he was in one
he was in the pokemon blue block
Runner second to the right has a Seth Rollins shirt, which is amazing.
omg that trance out screen is freaking me out mate lol
normally glitchless is a really boring run to watch because it's like a planned let's play but this run was very fun to watch thanks to all the runners and commentary so credit to them
Shen + Gunner + Keiz are like the holy trinity of pokmeon gdq runs
Start @15:50
thx bro
Not at all : it's 13:05
"This fight is about PP management" I would have died lol
LLAma sporting the chain mail Like a Proper gamer nerd. Love it Dude. youmake me proud to be a gamer geek
Pokémon is always such a good speedrun
llama is the GOAT D2 player
Why are the screens all different colors? Is it just to help differentiate the separate player's screen?
Personal decision of the runners! Round about 1:10:00 you can see that it helps with the rock cave, but overall it's just personal preference. :D
i wish Werster was there to comment as well .
I love that chain mail.
#GODDISH
It had its chance and it ruined it!
I'm glad I donated during this run. :)
I started learning Pokémon red a few days ago. So far I had only one fight where bulbasaur didn’t at least try to growl
that was really fun that double finish at the end was great to lol
Let it be know that on this race Lord Helix bestowed his almighty powers upon Gunner and thus the demi-god Goddish was born.
"Glitchless" is a bit of a lenient naming convention here
If you've seen a glitched run, you'd understand.
Well that's why I call it lenient. It sort of conforms to what other games call these types of runs, even though it clearly abuses some unintended glitches. (That can be avoided)
I love Keizaron just sitting there and waiting
Keizaron, my boy in the Crossfit Jesus shirt. Commenting at the beginning hoping he wins.
i just noticed those two perlers at the begining, what characters are those?
why are the colors so different on each screen? great race though
Probably to distinguish each player's run, so no confusion is involved.
Starting up a gameboy color (not sure about gameboy player) if you hold a combination of d-pad and a/b you get a different color palate playing a GB game.
+Phil Deka ah alright
at 1:10:00 ish you can see why
1:11:35 "The cheater palate"
Shenanigans is my boy his glitch showcase was super entertaining .if I didn't know better I'd say he works in commentary as a side hustle
keizarons first four pokemon (nidoking, squirtle, spearow and paras) spell meme in the pokemon menu
Blue has 4 Pokémon in Cerulean City.
And Tricky crit them all. God damn.
So keizaron ran into a spearow before the nidoran on route 22 wouldnt it be faster to cat h your spearow then vs later route when given the option?
maybe they explained this in the video, but why are the game screens all different colors?
That Oddish cut softlock hurts my soul omg
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Mitchel Huffa I was 1:04:00 onto the run before I realised this. Although I don't normally watch pokemon runs
2:03:00 for those looking for the legendary “Max ether: CUT”.
These pre-manip runs make much more interesting races as RNG is a much bigger factor.
I just noticed Keizaron's team spells MEME.
i thought the guy in the black shirt had won the race, and then i saw he was the "3rd" place. they need to fix how they arrange players in the seats and the order of the screen, because they don't make any sense at all if you don't know the runners before hand.
so the sound comes from whoever is in the lead?
can someone answer this, I'd like to know too. is it random or is it the lead
Yep :) I noticed the music change when Tricky took the lead after skipping water gun, then when he failed the Misty fight and Gunner took the lead, it changed to Gunner :)
+NX berry don't think so, exarion has the sound for me at the moment and gunner is way ahead
+NX berry at 19:00 about by the way
Look carefully at the runner's names... there is a musical note besides the runner's name whom is actively providing sound. It changes with the source.
Also, can't really say who is in the lead at any given moment as some of these runners are using a slightly different route.
21:39
It's not at all unlikely to have to face a pokemon, going by what he said. The chance is 1-(31/32)^28=0.59. So it's a slightly bigger chance to meet a pokemon than not.
1:46:27 He's doing Erika first with the PP Up and he has all the moves.
Never thought that pokemon could be that terrifying
How do you learn how to speed run like this or rba or gotta catch em all I really want to learn
And how do you play them on tvs?
Playing on TVs requires consoles (I think most runners use a GameCube).
As for learning, there are tutorials scattered here and there on the pokemonspeedruns wiki, this is the one for the race you just watched: wiki.pokemonspeedruns.com/index.php/Pokémon_Red/Blue/Any%25_Glitchless/NidokingRouteExarion
+Tefl0nc0ugar You can play them through the SNES with the Super Game Boy or you can play it on GameCube with wires that connect from the controller ports to a GameBoy Advanced.
Also, how come all the screens are a different color?
Hey, who is that between Klonoa and Megaman at the start there?
Also, that donation from TheBakaBrigade201 at the very end was just golden. I'd type out a Cirno_Tv emote, but it's RUclips, so...
race starts at 13:08
video has been spliced.
is there a reason theyre all playing in different color schemes?
Do we that the commentator mentioned the exp deficit from mount moon enough times?
What was Keizaron's in-game time?
This is like a hurdling race with randomized hurdles, with all the different encounters :p
Run starts at 15:18
Great run, loving the Gen 1 nostalgia. Just a quick question, is there any reason they chose Pokemon Red rather than Blue for this run, other than Blue would be run next?
Nidoran male i believe is red exclusive
retrotonowgamer101
He's in that patch of grass in Blue too, but much more rare to find.
how did they changed the color on wich screem? awesome race btw!
Press B or A and any direction on d-pad when the gameboy color boots up and you see the logo screen for gameboy.
Why is the pokedoll feature count the run as glitchless?
The pokedoll is working as intended, it ends the fight with the ghost. It just so happens that ending the fight with the ghost, lets us skip it.
gunner was one 100th of a second faster and then they synced them up? nice move :D
People didn't know about the Flute being usable in battle?... What kinda freak kid was I?
Edit - 1:58:03 Oh my god.... I did the same thing as a kid. XD I was a youngling who didn't get that you had to train everything, so I just had a piddly little bellsprout as my last pokemon facing off against the rival in Silph Co and HOO. It took a while, but I was so proud that it wasn't a loss. Not actually sure how I had enough potions to hold up through Struggling, but I did.
What system are they on?
Race Start: 13:09
What's the finishing conditions? All 150? Or all the badge?
it's any percent so I assume when they beat the league and get the credits.
The finishing condition is to beat the Elite Four and start the credits as fast as possible without using anything classified as a glitch.
beating the game with no glitches
In any% glitchless, it is just beat the gyms and elite four without using anything classified as a glitch. There is a 151 Pokémon category that is very glitched and was ran at SGDQ 2015
so anyone know why in surges gym the door guys sprite moves when checking for a switch?
48:52 Keizaron's team spelled Meme. ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!!!!
ive played pokemon a shitton but how do they see all those stats in 2 frames o.o
1:20:51 what does red bar mean
Red bar is a sound effect that plays when your Pokemon's health is around 20% and it skips all Pokemon cries and jingles, which saves a lot of time.
I wonder how many times "Terrifying" is said in this race.
Gunner pls...
I was cheering the entire run and you forget the key.. AGAIN T__T
Isn't WigglyWoo a Projared thing?
Yeah, it also became a meme in the Pokemon speedrunning community.
4 way race? awesome job guys