That one bathhouse owner NPC in Inazuma is not from Natlan. He is from Inazuma who visited Natlan to study its hotsprings. He later opened his own bathhouse in Inazuma by using the knowledge he gained from his visit in Natlan.
Can you do Character stories? We know we can read it from the profiles but most of us probably dont have the time to read those... And the way you tell stories is so entertaining.
True tho maybe there are survivors from the catalysm. Probably small in number as we could imagine even in land of war there are civilians still living in it. So the theory for Murata or the fomer pyro archon took in the people of Khan'reiah as refugee is plausible. There also a possibility for them to be taking refuge in other nation near Khan'reiah. For the land with advance technology surely there ars some who manage to escape the catalysm and probably a minority at best. So far we meet the peole of monstad, liyue, inazuma, fountain, sumeru, and sneznaya in our travel across 3 nation. Surely the other nation have their own regulation on their people to travel across other nation.
I think he has his own way of telling the truths, he rather go around the point while hinting at them than just being straight to the point. He's not a liar, but rather someone with hidden motives and meanings behind what he does. Bc I, myself, am like that lmao.
I have learnt from past videos that even when your theories are so crazy. I should never doubt you because the number of time you’ve proven yourself correct is insane.
I wonder about the internal condition of Natlan, especially since the archon that ruled it are literally called God of War, and we already hear a glimpse about her peraonality from Venti, something tells me that Monstadt and Liyue would be the only ok country in Tevyat, especially considering what Dainslef said about the rest of the nations. Considering how f*cked up Inazuma was, i have no expectation for the conditions of future nations, including Sumeru the nation Dainslef decribe as desert of ignorance and the push for folly that even the God of Wisdom simply ignore
I agree with you on almost everything. If the map changes according to the story (like how there's rifthounds in Mondstadt if you completed Razor's quest) it may become on of the most dangerous. I mean, they're the closest nation to the abyss, the people of Khaenri'ah already started their move and sent Kaeya as a spy, Albedo (who lost control and destroyed a whole country before) is affiliated with Mondstadt, who knows what comes next?
@@sarabeatrizcardoso7216 Well, i'd still say Monstadt is an ok country even if the map changes, the freedom and the kindness of the people don't. Liyue too. Look at Inazuma, racist restrictions. Sumeru, thirsty mad scientists like Dottore. Not all of them of course. Fontaine, corruption in justice i bet with the 'Masquerade of the Guilty' title going on. Natlan might be okay, considering the theory of a battle-to-the-death colosseum there for the war maniacs. Snezhnaya, don't even go there. The archon, the fatui. A great breather would be in Monstadt and Liyue, but great forces have long seek to wreak havoc in it.
nah I think its the traveler who is send back in time he still has a journey that the other sibling has already went through, and Kaeya is describing things that his grandfather defeated (probably when he *the grandfather*was younger). Also Khan'riah is a nation that the traveler and Kaeya are connected to I think this is no coincidence. Plus the legendary sword Kaeya was talking about in his story quest was probably the travelers sword when he and his sibling were fighting the unknown goddess.
I like the base for this idea, since it's most likely true the his Grandfather WAS a pirate based on Kaeya's insistence of wearing the eyepatch and that Khan'riah was prob banished to the dark sea in a similar way Enkonomiya was. Only problem is that Kaeya's grandfather glory days were prob 80 or so years ago a far reach for his Grandfather being able to know the traveler's sister. After taking bits from this theory and others: Kaeya's ancestors escaped the destruction of Khan'riah and with no place to call home they started to roam. One Ancestor knew the traveler's sibling and their actions are passed down as legends (swords, hydras, etc). Overtime after traveling from Khan'riah and Tevyet via black sea his ancestors are know as pirates and outcasts from other nations join them. The rest is history. And Kaeya is secretly an abyssal enemy just like Enjou :)
@@ritaxr1714 I just said enemy because Kaeya's skills are said be to similar to an Abyss Mage and Enjou was an abyss lector. Both which are enemies in game. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
The '8-headed hydras' could just be MHY hinting to us of things to come, except that we missed it. But hey you might be on to something. One big problem though. Why didn't he turn into a Hilichurl? Khaenri'ah was 500 years ago. Kaeya is in the now. We know at least one person from that period of time that exists as a Lawachurl today - Ukko, the last scribe of Sal Vindagnyr. Kaeya's character stories literally point to him and his biological father as people of Khaenri'ah (Character story 4 and Vision story). Even his last name has similar patterns with another known 'product' of Khaenri'ah: ALBEdo. ALBErich. Only Diluc knows the truth, which was revealed at sword point with his 'sworn brother', during which Kaeya also received his Vision. As to why he never turned into a Hilichurl, that's anyone's guess. As to why his father left him, maybe because of the said curse? Who knows. His mother? Anyone's guess. I don't like the way he suspiciously jokes about being of royal descent when asked about the Prinzessin. If there WAS a surviving royal descendant, would he or she be free from the curse? Could there be 2 sides to Khaenri'ah? The cursed and not cursed? When Diluc was away for 3-4 years after his father's death (and after learning the truth about Kaeya that same night), and traveling "all across the seven nations of Teyvat in search of the truth", there was a time when he nearly met death by the Harbingers (doesn't say which one, probably Dottore), he was rescued by a member of a "vast underground intelligence network" who were "made up of volunteers, and many of its members had willingly given up their prior positions and reputations to join. Some had even abandoned their names." As for his dark skin, your guess is as good as mine!
From the Enkanomiya story quest, it seems like a person from the abyss can willingly shapeshift into an abyss creature [kinda dont wanna spoil]. So if Kaeya is indeed from Khaen’riah, maybe shapeshifting into an abyss creature means siding with the abyss.
As Dainsleif was a part of the royal guard (at least I think?) and Kaeya probably being the prince of Khaenri'ah, I am thinking that the royalty of Khaenri'ah maybe was "just" cursed with immortality instead of turning into Hilichurls and etc.?
Hilichurls existed before Khaenri'ah was destroyed, so while it's possible that Khaenri'ans were cursed to become hilichurls, I don't think that's what happened. Sal Vindagnyr was a separate civilization from Khaenri'ah, was located on Dragonspine, and (if I remember right) also destroyed by the sustainer of heavenly principles. I think I remember reading something about Sal Vindagnyr's people getting cursed and becoming hilichurls (books and artifacts), but have not read anything concrete about the same happening to Khaenri'ah. I'm bad at keeping track of sources, so if anyone can prove me right or wrong about any of the above, and list the source, I'll be happy to go check and possibly correct this comment accordingly.
@@shamelle9945 i actually think it's the other way round, and again, without spoilers, i can only say that i got that inference through the etymology of the character's name
I always have this feeling of god war... the least closer to peace and love.. and now Tsaritsa is a no longer god of love and the one that closest to them is god of war...
While many believe Tsaritsa is 'no longer' the God of Love, take a look at how Tartaglia describes her in his voicelines. It may alter your opinions about her.
Tsaritsa's nature is exactly like God of love according to Tartaglia, but again, who knows what is being hidden behind those facade of gentle nature, and what secrets wait to be uncover, speak of the devil, it is good to see fellow indonesian here.
Honestly I can’t help but think that you revisited this video mainly for the skin tone controversy, which imo is an extremely valid point, don’t let close minded people get in your way, I LOVE your content!
Kaeya's lore in a nutshell: *"You may twist and turn all you like.....but you'll never ever find an answer"* In all honesty, I'm all out of brain juice for theorizing on Kaeya's lore😵💫
Oh wow, this is actually pretty convincing! Adding to this, I'm pretty sure the Pyro Archon is a cool person who will help the Traveler. Venti has a line in which he says: "The Pyro Archon is a wayward, warmongering wretch, and the Geo Archon is a brutish blundering buffoon! How do I know? Because, this is written in the epic poems of days gone by!" We know Zhongli is nowhere near that description Venti gave. Also, the way he phrased that makes it sound like a pretty sarcastic statement. You know, like a medieval fantasy way of saying "If it's on the internet, it must be true". So if "brutish blundering buffoon" is the complete opposite of who Zhongli is, then we can assume the Pyro Archon is also the complete opposite of a "wayward, warmongering wretch". Sure, she may be the God of War, but I think there is much more nuance and honor to her than simple manslaughter.
i like the idea of murata taking in refugees from khaenri’ah, considering the fact that she is the god of war, and as such, she would also honour the consequences of it.
its a good theory, especially the tale of the eight headed hydra and a silver haired banshee. the abyss dragon could be Durin, as gold (the creator) was from khaenriah and all those of khaenriah were turned into beings of the abyss. However, I have read through Kaeya's story and it mentioned the fact of him 'watching his home land of khaenriah burn', but perhaps part of his family is indeed from natlan.
I always looking forward to your videos! I feel like you’re the only Genshin theory that always to the point, not so much of overstretching the theories and always give a logical prove. By the way, with the 3 things that Kaeya’s grandfather had fought, he said he had fought a silver haired banshee. If anyone doesn’t know, banshee is basically a female spirit that wailing an impending death, but some also called them as a mourning woman. AND THATS WHEN I THOUGHT IT PERFECTLY MATCHED WITH SIGNORA BACKSTORY! LOVE YOUR THEORY CATWITHBLUEHAT!
I’m just realizing Natlan is the least known area in game like we can guess how Fontaine looks and how people from there are dressed from the amount of knowledge we get in every new quest along with Sumeru we pretty much know 70% of it just from the context clues, we know about Sneznaya and it’s god a bit and we know about K’hanaria from the little bits we get told but we know nothing about Natlan and can’t really speculate the gods gender, or how the area is like if it’s desert,forest or what
this aged well cuz the traveler and the current pyro archon Mauvika are gonna work together in act 5 and possibly 6 ion defeating the abyss permanently in natlan .
Seeing as how most characters take after the archon of their vision, I’d say the pyro archon is either very cheerful like most pyro users, or reserved but still kind like Diluc. As we know, Venti isn’t calm like any of the other anemo users, but the reason for why characters get a certain element is always bound to their background. So I do think she’ll be a kind archon, just maybe one with secrets she may or may not spill later on.
I have a weird off field theory that, there’s a time loop and that maybe traveler is Kaeya’s grandfather. Because Lumine or the twin talks about seeing what they see, and that they’re kinda guiding them to what’s to come.
When u said pyro archon is kind, it remind me how every pyro character in genshin have that "kind, caring, always helping everyone regardless who they are to them" traits . Amber, klee, bannet, thoma, xiangling, yoimiya, xinyan, yanfei, hutao, diluc (yeah diluc the weirdest one i know)
I'm a few part of all those people who are furiously waiting for Natlan. The lore, music and everything sounds so fucking cool. I can't wait for Natlan, I don't really care for any other nation rn.
I feel like this might be true, considering the pale princess and the six pygmies, describing people from the moonlight forest, which many of us think is a metaphor for Khaenri'ah, to have fair skin, light hair and blue eyes Kaeya has blueish eyes but he doesn't fit into the other two categories We know his father's from Khaenri'ah, but maybe Kaeya himself wasn't born yet during the cataclysm like Albedo and learnt everything from his father This means that Kaeya's mother could potentially be from Natlan and that could be where his tanned skin and dark hair comes from or he could be changing his appearance to avoid suspicion, which isn't far from his character I also think Xinyan might be from Natlan because of these observations and the red streak in her hair, but this is of course all speculation
Or because of human evolution, if people’s skin and genes were only adapted to moonlight, Kaeya’s ancestors going out into the sunlight would change the color of their skin generation from generation. Or it’s just him and his dad getting a tan from the sun idk😂
@@anitakhcreate I just wantto add in a little something here: in aether's voicelines (not sure if they're the same as lumine's) he and paimon joke about if kaeya removed his eyepatch there would be a patch of white underneathe it therefore why he wears it bc hes embarrased by it. They're clearly just having banter but just food for thought.
I now think that he has more to do with Sumeru tbh, especially after the recent Dainsleif quest and his constant involvement with Sumeru in general In fact, the first door to Khaenri'ah being in Sumeru also leaves me with some food for thought
never bored reading your vids because its so clean and proper ( like the music too ) All your theories are make sense but as you said " It is just a theory afterall " Keep up the good work man ! ^0^/
I think the sword kaeya is talking about is the traveler's original sword. We can see from the genshin opening the the traveler let go of his sword while fighting the sustainer. Kaeya said the sword fell from celestia.
also, Archon tends to be somehwhat ironic like Morax being god of wealth but without wealth, Venti being a god of freedom but can't get away from alcohol, Tsaritsa god of love being cold as ice, Raiden I don't know yet(lol), so the god of war might actually be a kind archon after all(in terms of doing things, I know Venti and Zhongli is kind too but...)
Amazing video 👍and i really hope when in future when we get to natlan , we can team up with the pyro archon and get to know more about khaneri'ah and all as per we know about her till now i think its most likely will happen.
my random theory is that all Archons are conspiring against Celestia in their own way due to the guilt of their actions during the destruction of Kaeinrah. none of them seemed particulary upset or even caring about the gnosis and the fatui planning to steal them. they all seem to also feel a bit of remorse in the events of Kaeinrah's destruction. Venti possibly let his Gnosis be taken on purpose. he may not be strong, but he is not THAT weak either. Zhongli got a contract with the Tsaritsa. Raiden became a shut in NEET and gave it away to Yae, cutting ties with Celestia on purpose. Lesser God Kusanali may have a similar trait to the dendro slime, which means, will possibly hide from everyone, including Celestia, by putting a false god in front as a decoy. not sure about the Hydro Archon yet. Tsaritsa is quite obvious at this point. Pyro Archon already described in the video. it helped the people of Kaeinrah, which Celestia would possibly not like.
This is a really good theory...Only problem is that we know Kaeya is from Khanrei'ah already and we know that due to his Story from friendship and in the webtoon comic too.
'Red hair the symbols of those who blessed by pyro archon' hits different when i've read diluc story... Intresting theory btw.. we'll see if it's true 😉👍🏻
It's not THAT much of a difference. Mythologically, banshees are female spirits that would wail, cry and shriek at the death of a loved one. And from Signora's lore, we know she's immortal or undead (depending if she burned her body completely or not) and we know that she lives in complete agony and pain at the death of her lover Rostam
@@loola8908 1. signora doesn't wail, cry or shriek. The voicelines indicate that she's pissed, not depressed 2. Signora was about to die from her body being liquid fire but the cryo vision lowered the temp of said fire thus keeping her alive. She's not undead or immortal, she's just on life support. 3. She's not shown to be in agony, only when she's in the crimson witch form so no, she is far from a banshee let alone a specifically silver haired one.
@ZE. Brigitte do you expect signora to be crying and screaming while beating up sara but not when she was fighting the traveller? it's pretty heavily implied that she was being formal in front of the shogun and her behaviour is consistent between the other 2 encounters with signora. anyhow, i'm just pointing out flaws with this theory that completely debunk it. Even if these problems didn't exist, someone still has to prove the theory right.
I wouldn't be surprised if I see himeko or just exactly a look a like as the pyro archon. I mean take a look at (m)ei, same va as mei in honkai, same element, both top dogs (archon, herrscher). And lastly, that unknown god literally looks like kiana.
maybe... as you said we have raiden & yae miko as an example and if we wait for ayato's coming it could be a confirmation. but then we have xiangling whose cn va(not sure for jp, i'll have to check that too) is also the same as theresa but she doesn't look an ounce of theresa in her.
Diluc: im the saddest character, my father dead Shenhe: no! My family hate me and now 1 live with adepti. Kaeya: nah (leaved by his father, and know his father unknown, adopted by crepus, but crepus dead in front of his eyes, diluc is changed, other people from khaenri'ah became monsters. And why mihoyo didn't make manga or opera about my backstory?
Now I'm excited to see if this theory will become true or not, like the one with scaramouche. The way you guys concluded these theories from deducting genshin lores are awesome
I wonder if the Murata Himeko we know back in honkai got reincarnated to the genshin verse, becoming the pyro archon afterwards would be a major tearjerker.
In the manga is stated that Kaeya is the last prince of Kaenri'ah, sent to Monstad as a spy. Unless Natlan is a piece of Kaenri'ah i am not sure how this fits. O_o
I'm thinking if Murata's regional name is xango since iansan is there But that would just mean mihoyo didn't done their homework with the story of the orixás
I just hope Murata isn't her name period tbh. Having a clear Japanese name feels out of place for Natlan's culture. Many name changes occur between game versions, and localisation elsewhere has been inconsistent (like the thing with Barbara and Jean's dad being either Seamus Pegg or Simon Page), so I think Murata is just a working name since they would've intended to base the Pyro Archon off of her (Himeko). For example, Aberaku from Enkanomiya was originally mentioned as Abe Yoshihisa in 2.3, but this was later revised in 2.4.
@@Syiepherze Aberaku, Abe Yoshihisa and Abrax are all the same person its not revised. Abrax being his original name greek related. Aberaku being his name in Enkanomyia after the Dainichi Mikoshi was built and the start of negotiations with Narukami. Abe Yoshihisa being his known name by the people of Watatsumi.
@@Syiepherze It's interesting because her name could be easily Murata Shango (or Xango, Xangô) in portuguese, for example. It's not a common name in Brazil, but could be a nickname. Sometimes some words or names lost its' originality as well, we speak so much that word that we don't connect it to its' origins anymore (a common thing in Brazil since we are the most mixed country in the world, I have no idea about other countries). I don't know if African cultures and languages could accept Murata as a name in their culture or if it actually exist there as @Cecilia mentioned the "false friends" words. The thing is, Genshin is under development way before the actual announcement, so if they still used Murata to call the Pyro Archon there's a reason behind it.
in one of enka quest the pyro abyss lector mentioned that he is trying to prove that the gods and beings from celestia didnt come from teyvat and are from out of the world, possible to make some crazy theories about it?
2:50 I was thinking that for the entire video // Random theory Lucs mother is form kahenria (my grammar) I dont like much of the gods due to the war Infact I have a bit of hatred but THe pyro, Electo and Anemo gods are my favourite I don't want the next archon quest cuz I'm scared lol
The Pyro Archon being as soft and caring as she is vicious in war...it makes sense if we assume all future Archons (female from this point on) will have story quest dates.
Off topic but the osial and osial wife fight reminds me of The fight incident between lord Krishna and Kaliya naag(Snake) It's just weird how it reminded me of that story out of nowhere
imo the abyss dragon could be durin in the dragonspine? since it is said that in dragonspine durin's remain still active and there is "heart" thing at the dragonspine that still active to this day
well technically they wouldn’t be refugees of that nation since it’s been 500 years already, rather they’re the descendants, unless they’re not human like klee and alice and can live for a very long time
I don’t think Kaeya is from Natlan. They are known to have red hair, like Venessa. And Kaeya’s hair is blue/he retains features from Khaen’riah like his eyes. It also wouldn’t make sense that his father would send him out to avenge Khaen’riah if all along, they’ve had somewhere nice to live. Really, who knows tho. I think we just don’t have enough information, but Diluc definitely has Natlan heritage considering the red hair. Signora is also not a banshee. She’s an elemental being, but not a banshee. Banshees have horrible wailing noises, and Signora/Rosalyne was known for literally the exact opposite. That is to say, she had a beautiful singing voice, as she would sing praises to the Anemo Archon outside of the Venti statue in Mondstadt (which just makes what happened to Rostam under Venti’s watch so much more tragic….) I also wouldn’t count Osial and his wife as one entity. They’re two separate entities, clearly.
You do realize that Kaeya doesn't fit the description of Khaenri'ah's people EITHER. In the book "The Pale Princess and Six Pygmies" Khaenri'ah's people all had blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin. Mainly for two reasons: As an underground nation, they lived in darkness...places without sunlight result in everyone being pale. And the second is that Khaenri'ah is heavily based on Scandinavia and Scandinavians are well known for having these characteristics. Hence why Dain, an OG Khaenri'ahn from 500 years ago has this description. And why Albedo who is less than 400 years old was modelled by his master to look like an average Khaenri'ahn with blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin. So Kaeya is an anomaly and a special case either way. He doesn't seem to fit in anywhere
@@loola8908 also going on with that khanriah was destroyed 500 years ago and unlike Dainslief and Dlbedo who are immortal in some way, Kaeya is a normal human. Even though idk if the theory is true but I do like it as it makes sense as to why he is "from" khanriah but isn't 500+ years old or immortal. Also notice how kaeya doesn't seem to know anything about khanriah it might be him keeping secrets but the other two seem to know a little bit about it whereas he doesn't
@@omelettexmoa2995 No, he definitely does. He has a voiceline about Khaenri'ah where he calls all the survivors "sinners." He's just keeping secrets.......or MIHOYO just doesn't want to give him spotlight
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That one bathhouse owner NPC in Inazuma is not from Natlan. He is from Inazuma who visited Natlan to study its hotsprings. He later opened his own bathhouse in Inazuma by using the knowledge he gained from his visit in Natlan.
Wait people were thinking he's from natlan just because he mentioned it?
@@no.notfromRDR Yes, literally came across on chats... And I cannot call them dumb because it's really not big of a deal
Can you do Character stories? We know we can read it from the profiles but most of us probably dont have the time to read those...
And the way you tell stories is so entertaining.
True tho maybe there are survivors from the catalysm. Probably small in number as we could imagine even in land of war there are civilians still living in it. So the theory for Murata or the fomer pyro archon took in the people of Khan'reiah as refugee is plausible. There also a possibility for them to be taking refuge in other nation near Khan'reiah. For the land with advance technology surely there ars some who manage to escape the catalysm and probably a minority at best. So far we meet the peole of monstad, liyue, inazuma, fountain, sumeru, and sneznaya in our travel across 3 nation. Surely the other nation have their own regulation on their people to travel across other nation.
@@no.notfromRDR Yes he did mention about hot spring that he studied
Whenever kaeya open his mouth I can't help but feeling sus with everything he said 😂
I think he has his own way of telling the truths, he rather go around the point while hinting at them than just being straight to the point. He's not a liar, but rather someone with hidden motives and meanings behind what he does. Bc I, myself, am like that lmao.
he just talks in riddles
he speaks in vague statements that he even beats Mona in being an astrologer 😆😆😆
You can only believe half of what he says
Because of his trauma, the only person he feels comfortable with is diluc, he can’t trust anyone easily, he feels lonely and he feels no one loves him
I have learnt from past videos that even when your theories are so crazy. I should never doubt you because the number of time you’ve proven yourself correct is insane.
I wonder about the internal condition of Natlan, especially since the archon that ruled it are literally called God of War, and we already hear a glimpse about her peraonality from Venti, something tells me that Monstadt and Liyue would be the only ok country in Tevyat, especially considering what Dainslef said about the rest of the nations.
Considering how f*cked up Inazuma was, i have no expectation for the conditions of future nations, including Sumeru the nation Dainslef decribe as desert of ignorance and the push for folly that even the God of Wisdom simply ignore
I agree with you on almost everything. If the map changes according to the story (like how there's rifthounds in Mondstadt if you completed Razor's quest) it may become on of the most dangerous. I mean, they're the closest nation to the abyss, the people of Khaenri'ah already started their move and sent Kaeya as a spy, Albedo (who lost control and destroyed a whole country before) is affiliated with Mondstadt, who knows what comes next?
@@sarabeatrizcardoso7216 Well, i'd still say Monstadt is an ok country even if the map changes, the freedom and the kindness of the people don't. Liyue too. Look at Inazuma, racist restrictions. Sumeru, thirsty mad scientists like Dottore. Not all of them of course. Fontaine, corruption in justice i bet with the 'Masquerade of the Guilty' title going on. Natlan might be okay, considering the theory of a battle-to-the-death colosseum there for the war maniacs. Snezhnaya, don't even go there. The archon, the fatui. A great breather would be in Monstadt and Liyue, but great forces have long seek to wreak havoc in it.
YALL MAKING THESE THEORIES BUT IM STILL TRYNA FIGURE OUT IF PAIMON SHITS OR PISSES-😭😭😭
@@shufflr1513 Okay but why is it only one or the other 😭
@@aureliaavalon I MEANT IF PAIMON CAN SHIT OR PISS OOP-
Honestly the reason I'm still into genshin is for the lore it's like a big novel series for me
Ur channel helps a lot thnx
nah I think its the traveler who is send back in time he still has a journey that the other sibling has already went through, and Kaeya is describing things that his grandfather defeated (probably when he *the grandfather*was younger). Also Khan'riah is a nation that the traveler and Kaeya are connected to I think this is no coincidence. Plus the legendary sword Kaeya was talking about in his story quest was probably the travelers sword when he and his sibling were fighting the unknown goddess.
Are you saying the traveller is kaeya's grandfather?
I like the base for this idea, since it's most likely true the his Grandfather WAS a pirate based on Kaeya's insistence of wearing the eyepatch and that Khan'riah was prob banished to the dark sea in a similar way Enkonomiya was. Only problem is that Kaeya's grandfather glory days were prob 80 or so years ago a far reach for his Grandfather being able to know the traveler's sister.
After taking bits from this theory and others: Kaeya's ancestors escaped the destruction of Khan'riah and with no place to call home they started to roam. One Ancestor knew the traveler's sibling and their actions are passed down as legends (swords, hydras, etc). Overtime after traveling from Khan'riah and Tevyet via black sea his ancestors are know as pirates and outcasts from other nations join them. The rest is history.
And Kaeya is secretly an abyssal enemy just like Enjou :)
@@ritaxr1714 I just said enemy because Kaeya's skills are said be to similar to an Abyss Mage and Enjou was an abyss lector. Both which are enemies in game. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
Traveler is from a other world not teyvat so they can't be related to kaenrhia
The infamous dull blade
The '8-headed hydras' could just be MHY hinting to us of things to come, except that we missed it. But hey you might be on to something.
One big problem though. Why didn't he turn into a Hilichurl? Khaenri'ah was 500 years ago. Kaeya is in the now. We know at least one person from that period of time that exists as a Lawachurl today - Ukko, the last scribe of Sal Vindagnyr.
Kaeya's character stories literally point to him and his biological father as people of Khaenri'ah (Character story 4 and Vision story).
Even his last name has similar patterns with another known 'product' of Khaenri'ah: ALBEdo. ALBErich.
Only Diluc knows the truth, which was revealed at sword point with his 'sworn brother', during which Kaeya also received his Vision.
As to why he never turned into a Hilichurl, that's anyone's guess. As to why his father left him, maybe because of the said curse? Who knows. His mother? Anyone's guess. I don't like the way he suspiciously jokes about being of royal descent when asked about the Prinzessin. If there WAS a surviving royal descendant, would he or she be free from the curse?
Could there be 2 sides to Khaenri'ah? The cursed and not cursed? When Diluc was away for 3-4 years after his father's death (and after learning the truth about Kaeya that same night), and traveling "all across the seven nations of Teyvat in search of the truth", there was a time when he nearly met death by the Harbingers (doesn't say which one, probably Dottore), he was rescued by a member of a "vast underground intelligence network" who were "made up of volunteers, and many of its members had willingly given up their prior positions and reputations to join. Some had even abandoned their names."
As for his dark skin, your guess is as good as mine!
From the Enkanomiya story quest, it seems like a person from the abyss can willingly shapeshift into an abyss creature [kinda dont wanna spoil]. So if Kaeya is indeed from Khaen’riah, maybe shapeshifting into an abyss creature means siding with the abyss.
That „ALBEdo, ALBErich” is a reach. Pure coincidence. Albedo is an alchemical substance and Alberich is a German surname.
As Dainsleif was a part of the royal guard (at least I think?) and Kaeya probably being the prince of Khaenri'ah, I am thinking that the royalty of Khaenri'ah maybe was "just" cursed with immortality instead of turning into Hilichurls and etc.?
Hilichurls existed before Khaenri'ah was destroyed, so while it's possible that Khaenri'ans were cursed to become hilichurls, I don't think that's what happened.
Sal Vindagnyr was a separate civilization from Khaenri'ah, was located on Dragonspine, and (if I remember right) also destroyed by the sustainer of heavenly principles. I think I remember reading something about Sal Vindagnyr's people getting cursed and becoming hilichurls (books and artifacts), but have not read anything concrete about the same happening to Khaenri'ah.
I'm bad at keeping track of sources, so if anyone can prove me right or wrong about any of the above, and list the source, I'll be happy to go check and possibly correct this comment accordingly.
@@shamelle9945 i actually think it's the other way round, and again, without spoilers, i can only say that i got that inference through the etymology of the character's name
All these disparate things We know, connected together like this. Even if it is false, the theory is FASCINATING!
I always have this feeling of god war... the least closer to peace and love.. and now Tsaritsa is a no longer god of love and the one that closest to them is god of war...
While many believe Tsaritsa is 'no longer' the God of Love, take a look at how Tartaglia describes her in his voicelines. It may alter your opinions about her.
Tsaritsa's nature is exactly like God of love according to Tartaglia, but again, who knows what is being hidden behind those facade of gentle nature, and what secrets wait to be uncover, speak of the devil, it is good to see fellow indonesian here.
@@briantarigan7685 Bad people doens't mean bad people in genshin. They have their own reasons to their action
Honestly I can’t help but think that you revisited this video mainly for the skin tone controversy, which imo is an extremely valid point, don’t let close minded people get in your way, I LOVE your content!
Thank you ♥
@@CatWithBlueHat ✨👍🏼
The old video is shorter, iirc they didnt mention Diluc nor Crepus.
And yes that too
Kaeya's lore in a nutshell: *"You may twist and turn all you like.....but you'll never ever find an answer"*
In all honesty, I'm all out of brain juice for theorizing on Kaeya's lore😵💫
Kaeya who was a literal kan'reihan agent:-
Aight then guess im from Natalan
I like your theories so much it makes me think deeper in the game story and your way to tell us about it is special :)
Oh wow, this is actually pretty convincing!
Adding to this, I'm pretty sure the Pyro Archon is a cool person who will help the Traveler. Venti has a line in which he says:
"The Pyro Archon is a wayward, warmongering wretch, and the Geo Archon is a brutish blundering buffoon! How do I know? Because, this is written in the epic poems of days gone by!"
We know Zhongli is nowhere near that description Venti gave. Also, the way he phrased that makes it sound like a pretty sarcastic statement. You know, like a medieval fantasy way of saying "If it's on the internet, it must be true".
So if "brutish blundering buffoon" is the complete opposite of who Zhongli is, then we can assume the Pyro Archon is also the complete opposite of a "wayward, warmongering wretch". Sure, she may be the God of War, but I think there is much more nuance and honor to her than simple manslaughter.
i like the idea of murata taking in refugees from khaenri’ah, considering the fact that she is the god of war, and as such, she would also honour the consequences of it.
I need more of this lore
Hi kaeya fans :3
@@wise_axo3767 yo
@@wise_axo3767 heyo! :D
I need more of Kaeya
hello there Mr Kaeya
its a good theory, especially the tale of the eight headed hydra and a silver haired banshee. the abyss dragon could be Durin, as gold (the creator) was from khaenriah and all those of khaenriah were turned into beings of the abyss. However, I have read through Kaeya's story and it mentioned the fact of him 'watching his home land of khaenriah burn', but perhaps part of his family is indeed from natlan.
I always looking forward to your videos! I feel like you’re the only Genshin theory that always to the point, not so much of overstretching the theories and always give a logical prove.
By the way, with the 3 things that Kaeya’s grandfather had fought, he said he had fought a silver haired banshee. If anyone doesn’t know, banshee is basically a female spirit that wailing an impending death, but some also called them as a mourning woman. AND THATS WHEN I THOUGHT IT PERFECTLY MATCHED WITH SIGNORA BACKSTORY!
LOVE YOUR THEORY CATWITHBLUEHAT!
I’m just realizing Natlan is the least known area in game like we can guess how Fontaine looks and how people from there are dressed from the amount of knowledge we get in every new quest along with Sumeru we pretty much know 70% of it just from the context clues, we know about Sneznaya and it’s god a bit and we know about K’hanaria from the little bits we get told but we know nothing about Natlan and can’t really speculate the gods gender, or how the area is like if it’s desert,forest or what
The background music always matches and sets the tone for the theories, it’s so good 😩💓
Looks Like Kaeya is turning into the Usop of Genshin Impact.
Tells a lot of lies but those lies become true eventually.
this aged well cuz the traveler and the current pyro archon Mauvika are gonna work together in act 5 and possibly 6 ion defeating the abyss permanently in natlan .
Seeing as how most characters take after the archon of their vision, I’d say the pyro archon is either very cheerful like most pyro users, or reserved but still kind like Diluc. As we know, Venti isn’t calm like any of the other anemo users, but the reason for why characters get a certain element is always bound to their background.
So I do think she’ll be a kind archon, just maybe one with secrets she may or may not spill later on.
I love your theories, they makes lots of sense and are fun to watch :)
I have a weird off field theory that, there’s a time loop and that maybe traveler is Kaeya’s grandfather. Because Lumine or the twin talks about seeing what they see, and that they’re kinda guiding them to what’s to come.
That’s interesting omg
When u said pyro archon is kind, it remind me how every pyro character in genshin have that "kind, caring, always helping everyone regardless who they are to them" traits
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Amber, klee, bannet, thoma, xiangling, yoimiya, xinyan, yanfei, hutao, diluc (yeah diluc the weirdest one i know)
"We also beat osial's wife"
MY MIND-
Thank you man i love you. I cannot read all of those lores in games but i like videos
Yeah definitely those fire and ice brothers will contribute to a huge plot in the game
I'm a few part of all those people who are furiously waiting for Natlan. The lore, music and everything sounds so fucking cool. I can't wait for Natlan, I don't really care for any other nation rn.
I feel like this might be true, considering the pale princess and the six pygmies, describing people from the moonlight forest, which many of us think is a metaphor for Khaenri'ah, to have fair skin, light hair and blue eyes
Kaeya has blueish eyes but he doesn't fit into the other two categories
We know his father's from Khaenri'ah, but maybe Kaeya himself wasn't born yet during the cataclysm like Albedo and learnt everything from his father
This means that Kaeya's mother could potentially be from Natlan and that could be where his tanned skin and dark hair comes from or he could be changing his appearance to avoid suspicion, which isn't far from his character
I also think Xinyan might be from Natlan because of these observations and the red streak in her hair, but this is of course all speculation
Or because of human evolution, if people’s skin and genes were only adapted to moonlight, Kaeya’s ancestors going out into the sunlight would change the color of their skin generation from generation. Or it’s just him and his dad getting a tan from the sun idk😂
I dont agree about skintones. That seems like a stereotype and we shouldnt assume all darker skintones are from natlan. Other than that, agreed.
@@anitakhcreate I just wantto add in a little something here: in aether's voicelines (not sure if they're the same as lumine's) he and paimon joke about if kaeya removed his eyepatch there would be a patch of white underneathe it therefore why he wears it bc hes embarrased by it. They're clearly just having banter but just food for thought.
Sorry that I've seen these literally a year late, but all of your input was really useful, thank you! I'll keep that in mind ^^
I now think that he has more to do with Sumeru tbh, especially after the recent Dainsleif quest and his constant involvement with Sumeru in general
In fact, the first door to Khaenri'ah being in Sumeru also leaves me with some food for thought
🌸😼It could be uttered of Kaeya, that tales till dawn could be spoken of his person’s and he would still yield the upmost interest😼🌸
never bored reading your vids because its so clean and proper ( like the music too ) All your theories are make sense but as you said " It is just a theory afterall " Keep up the good work man ! ^0^/
Yess I love this theory SOOO MUCH!
I think the sword kaeya is talking about is the traveler's original sword. We can see from the genshin opening the the traveler let go of his sword while fighting the sustainer. Kaeya said the sword fell from celestia.
also, Archon tends to be somehwhat ironic like Morax being god of wealth but without wealth, Venti being a god of freedom but can't get away from alcohol, Tsaritsa god of love being cold as ice, Raiden I don't know yet(lol), so the god of war might actually be a kind archon after all(in terms of doing things, I know Venti and Zhongli is kind too but...)
Amazing video 👍and i really hope when in future when we get to natlan , we can team up with the pyro archon and get to know more about khaneri'ah and all as per we know about her till now i think its most likely will happen.
So he can be from natlan at the same time prince of khaenri’ah ?, this will be so interesting, what if pyro archon sided with khaenri’ah ?
See ya in another 5 years when we get into Natlan🤣🤣🤣
my random theory is that all Archons are conspiring against Celestia in their own way due to the guilt of their actions during the destruction of Kaeinrah.
none of them seemed particulary upset or even caring about the gnosis and the fatui planning to steal them. they all seem to also feel a bit of remorse in the events of Kaeinrah's destruction.
Venti possibly let his Gnosis be taken on purpose. he may not be strong, but he is not THAT weak either.
Zhongli got a contract with the Tsaritsa.
Raiden became a shut in NEET and gave it away to Yae, cutting ties with Celestia on purpose.
Lesser God Kusanali may have a similar trait to the dendro slime, which means, will possibly hide from everyone, including Celestia, by putting a false god in front as a decoy.
not sure about the Hydro Archon yet.
Tsaritsa is quite obvious at this point.
Pyro Archon already described in the video. it helped the people of Kaeinrah, which Celestia would possibly not like.
Good job bro.Really loved your theory.
then the magic sword could be the Traveler's Dull Blade
This is a really good theory...Only problem is that we know Kaeya is from Khanrei'ah already and we know that due to his Story from friendship and in the webtoon comic too.
me just waiting for Diluc and Kaeya reunion arc ;-;
'Red hair the symbols of those who blessed by pyro archon' hits different when i've read diluc story... Intresting theory btw.. we'll see if it's true 😉👍🏻
But in the "We will be reunited" quest, the abyss sibling told us that the people of khanreiah turned into the monsters of the abyss...
"silver haired banshee"
*points to signora who is clearly blonde*
"kaeya's words are like a prophecy"
It's not THAT much of a difference. Mythologically, banshees are female spirits that would wail, cry and shriek at the death of a loved one. And from Signora's lore, we know she's immortal or undead (depending if she burned her body completely or not) and we know that she lives in complete agony and pain at the death of her lover Rostam
@@loola8908 1. signora doesn't wail, cry or shriek. The voicelines indicate that she's pissed, not depressed
2. Signora was about to die from her body being liquid fire but the cryo vision lowered the temp of said fire thus keeping her alive. She's not undead or immortal, she's just on life support.
3. She's not shown to be in agony, only when she's in the crimson witch form
so no, she is far from a banshee let alone a specifically silver haired one.
@ZE. Brigitte do you expect signora to be crying and screaming while beating up sara but not when she was fighting the traveller?
it's pretty heavily implied that she was being formal in front of the shogun and her behaviour is consistent between the other 2 encounters with signora.
anyhow, i'm just pointing out flaws with this theory that completely debunk it. Even if these problems didn't exist, someone still has to prove the theory right.
I wouldn't be surprised if I see himeko or just exactly a look a like as the pyro archon. I mean take a look at (m)ei, same va as mei in honkai, same element, both top dogs (archon, herrscher). And lastly, that unknown god literally looks like kiana.
maybe... as you said we have raiden & yae miko as an example and if we wait for ayato's coming it could be a confirmation. but then we have xiangling whose cn va(not sure for jp, i'll have to check that too) is also the same as theresa but she doesn't look an ounce of theresa in her.
You two, TRUEEE
Cant wait for Enkanomiya's lore about Khaen'riah Cattt
I like the way he clears all the doubts related to theories in the end! 👏
Diluc: im the saddest character, my father dead
Shenhe: no! My family hate me and now 1 live with adepti.
Kaeya: nah (leaved by his father, and know his father unknown, adopted by crepus, but crepus dead in front of his eyes, diluc is changed, other people from khaenri'ah became monsters. And why mihoyo didn't make manga or opera about my backstory?
appreciate your hard working man keep it up
Now I'm excited to see if this theory will become true or not, like the one with scaramouche. The way you guys concluded these theories from deducting genshin lores are awesome
I wonder if the Murata Himeko we know back in honkai got reincarnated to the genshin verse, becoming the pyro archon afterwards would be a major tearjerker.
i highly doubt that since that would go against chapter 24
Oh no Pyro Archon gonna die again
Ok if I'm gonna be honest.
The pyro archon sounds friendly somehow.
Like- really friendly. I wonder how she looks like-
This reminds me so much of Usopp from One Piece where he tells a lie and then later into the story, some of the lies were actually real
In the manga is stated that Kaeya is the last prince of Kaenri'ah, sent to Monstad as a spy. Unless Natlan is a piece of Kaenri'ah i am not sure how this fits. O_o
I'm thinking if Murata's regional name is xango since iansan is there
But that would just mean mihoyo didn't done their homework with the story of the orixás
I just hope Murata isn't her name period tbh. Having a clear Japanese name feels out of place for Natlan's culture. Many name changes occur between game versions, and localisation elsewhere has been inconsistent (like the thing with Barbara and Jean's dad being either Seamus Pegg or Simon Page), so I think Murata is just a working name since they would've intended to base the Pyro Archon off of her (Himeko). For example, Aberaku from Enkanomiya was originally mentioned as Abe Yoshihisa in 2.3, but this was later revised in 2.4.
@@Syiepherze Aberaku, Abe Yoshihisa and Abrax are all the same person its not revised.
Abrax being his original name greek related.
Aberaku being his name in Enkanomyia after the Dainichi Mikoshi was built and the start of negotiations with Narukami.
Abe Yoshihisa being his known name by the people of Watatsumi.
@@Syiepherze It's interesting because her name could be easily Murata Shango (or Xango, Xangô) in portuguese, for example. It's not a common name in Brazil, but could be a nickname. Sometimes some words or names lost its' originality as well, we speak so much that word that we don't connect it to its' origins anymore (a common thing in Brazil since we are the most mixed country in the world, I have no idea about other countries). I don't know if African cultures and languages could accept Murata as a name in their culture or if it actually exist there as @Cecilia mentioned the "false friends" words. The thing is, Genshin is under development way before the actual announcement, so if they still used Murata to call the Pyro Archon there's a reason behind it.
See you guys again when we all reached Natlan then go back here to see if we got it right.
The traveler status on Inazuma might change due to Imperatrix Umbrosa Pt.2
Im hyped for this archon quest
Srsly, your theories about genshin lore always comes true! How are you so hella smart?! Plz give me some of that IQ for my exams! 😭
Me beforehand: No way is this going to make sense
Me after: Oh sh!t...
lmao that was me too 😭
in one of enka quest the pyro abyss lector mentioned that he is trying to prove that the gods and beings from celestia didnt come from teyvat and are from out of the world, possible to make some crazy theories about it?
Mihoyo : Kaeya is an agent sent by his father from khaenri'ah (read his story)
This guy : Nah fam, my mans from Natlan 100%, trust
They said the video that one part (his father's side) is 100% from Khaenri'ah and his mother could be speculated to be from Natlan
you didnt watch the full video dint u
and the title says "theory" bruh
Now this, this is a *very* intriguing theory. I like it.
Looking forward to meet murata someday
hope you make lore videos on enkanomiya 🥺👉🏼👈🏼 ive read some here and there but your videos are way easier for my 5 y/o brain to understand
Wow, the whole story become lighter under your explanation. Cool perspective
For the silver haired banshee i was thinkih about the uknown god😭✋🏼
Yall making cool theories while im still tryna figure out does paimon shit or piss
I love your Theories, and i love you too
2:50 I was thinking that for the entire video // Random theory Lucs mother is form kahenria (my grammar) I dont like much of the gods due to the war Infact I have a bit of hatred but THe pyro, Electo and Anemo gods are my favourite I don't want the next archon quest cuz I'm scared lol
Yesterday, in the evening, I was sourcing for this video because I noticed the notification that morning… I was start to losing it
that Travail video..i think some archons were already shown there. esp that pyroi archon. I think showed again in this video.
kaeya is one of the fatui harbingers .
The Pyro Archon being as soft and caring as she is vicious in war...it makes sense if we assume all future Archons (female from this point on) will have story quest dates.
it is sad that all new archons are female (for me)
definitely, youre absolutely right
i hope Wei make a theory about something like this but with funny vibe 🤣🤣
Watch your tone calling signora a banshee😭😭😭
Pls make a video explaining the books we found in enkanomiya quest with timeline and events
It felt like it was the same book enjou was looking for
When the title says pyro nation or natlan my urges to click immediately went on and on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Your theories always right
I admit that press play because this theory sounded funny, but at 2:47, my mind blow up and exploded hahahah Its make sense in a way or other
Off topic but the osial and osial wife fight reminds me of The fight incident between lord Krishna and Kaliya naag(Snake) It's just weird how it reminded me of that story out of nowhere
Pyro Archon must be awesome & different 🔥
I see other theory... Kaeya is from khaerin'ah... Because his eye is look same like daensleif (or what his name)
but isn't kaeya a khaenrian? the same thing as Pierro The Jester? cuz they both have almost the same clothes
imo the abyss dragon could be durin in the dragonspine? since it is said that in dragonspine durin's remain still active and there is "heart" thing at the dragonspine that still active to this day
When I seen first time in game term "osial's wife" my brain stars doing shit and try to imagine their wedding lol
i will bow my head to kaeya at any time
Plz make most used character in spiral abyss video I am missing it a lot😭😭
Hey guys have you noticed that the symbol on the centre of the statue of the seven looks similar to the thing on Aether’s chest.
wait where was it stated that the pyro archon took refugees ?
What was the last soundtrack? It sounds beautiful
Can’t wait to pull for Murata
3:50 Where do the scenes of Razor/Bennett and Lisa/Jean walking come from?
Windblume festival cutscenes
If I remember corectly It's said that Kaeya if from kenriach like Dein, He is covering up the corruption on his eye with eyepatch
wait, where is 3:50 cinematic screen came from?
well technically they wouldn’t be refugees of that nation since it’s been 500 years already, rather they’re the descendants, unless they’re not human like klee and alice and can live for a very long time
The wicked abyss dragon us more likely to be durin than Dvalin.
I don’t think Kaeya is from Natlan.
They are known to have red hair, like Venessa. And Kaeya’s hair is blue/he retains features from Khaen’riah like his eyes.
It also wouldn’t make sense that his father would send him out to avenge Khaen’riah if all along, they’ve had somewhere nice to live. Really, who knows tho. I think we just don’t have enough information, but Diluc definitely has Natlan heritage considering the red hair.
Signora is also not a banshee. She’s an elemental being, but not a banshee. Banshees have horrible wailing noises, and Signora/Rosalyne was known for literally the exact opposite. That is to say, she had a beautiful singing voice, as she would sing praises to the Anemo Archon outside of the Venti statue in Mondstadt (which just makes what happened to Rostam under Venti’s watch so much more tragic….)
I also wouldn’t count Osial and his wife as one entity. They’re two separate entities, clearly.
You do realize that Kaeya doesn't fit the description of Khaenri'ah's people EITHER. In the book "The Pale Princess and Six Pygmies" Khaenri'ah's people all had blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin. Mainly for two reasons: As an underground nation, they lived in darkness...places without sunlight result in everyone being pale. And the second is that Khaenri'ah is heavily based on Scandinavia and Scandinavians are well known for having these characteristics.
Hence why Dain, an OG Khaenri'ahn from 500 years ago has this description. And why Albedo who is less than 400 years old was modelled by his master to look like an average Khaenri'ahn with blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin.
So Kaeya is an anomaly and a special case either way. He doesn't seem to fit in anywhere
@@loola8908 also going on with that khanriah was destroyed 500 years ago and unlike Dainslief and Dlbedo who are immortal in some way, Kaeya is a normal human. Even though idk if the theory is true but I do like it as it makes sense as to why he is "from" khanriah but isn't 500+ years old or immortal.
Also notice how kaeya doesn't seem to know anything about khanriah it might be him keeping secrets but the other two seem to know a little bit about it whereas he doesn't
@@omelettexmoa2995 No, he definitely does. He has a voiceline about Khaenri'ah where he calls all the survivors "sinners." He's just keeping secrets.......or MIHOYO just doesn't want to give him spotlight
abyss dragon could also be Durin-