Can You Get Out A Broken Bolt With Wax!?

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  • Come along as I try every method known to man to remove a seized fastener in this Ford F-250 cylinder head. Ok maybe not every method but with out fail every time I show a method the comment box fills up with everyone's tried and true methods their MeMaw taught them so I thought what the heck, let's give them ALL a try!
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  • @badcompany964
    @badcompany964 5 лет назад +497

    Every 20 minute job is one broken bolt away from a 3 day ordeal.

    • @rjh2459
      @rjh2459 5 лет назад +18

      True, sad but true.

    • @kevingallineauii9353
      @kevingallineauii9353 5 лет назад +1

      P much dis.

    • @brianglade848
      @brianglade848 5 лет назад +2

      Shit hega babba like a week ober hereba

    • @richb5478
      @richb5478 4 года назад +6

      So fucking true always take your time

    • @markgentry6688
      @markgentry6688 4 года назад +9

      Cut flush. Center punch. Drill with short two ended drill bit. Redrill with bit to tap the hole. Tap the hole. Less time spent.
      Heat and quench will not work an any exhaust part. My personal experience.

  • @svtirefire
    @svtirefire 5 лет назад +164

    You need to turn the truck upside down so the wax will get into the threads.

    • @ebeegeebeefofeebee3181
      @ebeegeebeefofeebee3181 3 года назад +2

      That's how we do it on my planet.

    • @daleburrell6273
      @daleburrell6273 3 года назад

      ...ever heard of: "CAPILLARY ACTION"(?)

    • @svtirefire
      @svtirefire 3 года назад +3

      @@daleburrell6273 ever heard of a "JOKE" (?)

    • @daleburrell6273
      @daleburrell6273 3 года назад

      @@svtirefire ...AREN'T JOKES SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY?!!

    • @mountainxxxdew
      @mountainxxxdew 2 года назад +7

      @@daleburrell6273 jeez you must be the life of the party

  • @davebarajas5308
    @davebarajas5308 5 лет назад +248

    You know you found a great channel when you actually watch the entire 28 min video of a broken stud removal. I commend you sir, great work.

    • @Misha-nf3eb
      @Misha-nf3eb 4 года назад +1

      Tytt

    • @mikespeck8642
      @mikespeck8642 3 года назад

      This was Awesome, exactly how it goes for me.
      I will say, that the heating the aluminum around the stud and a cool stud with the vibration of the impact gun was the secret to you success.

    • @motoworks7115
      @motoworks7115 3 года назад +1

      Whenever I am struggling removing a bolt I try to make sure I am using only 6 point sockets to torque on it. The twelve point wrenches and sockets have more play.

    • @damianfarnsworth7474
      @damianfarnsworth7474 3 года назад +1

      I can watch him all day because of the commentary he makes throughout the video. LOL I started laughing when you said that though because I was thinking the same thing.

    • @20tea
      @20tea 3 года назад

      Yeah, it really sucks! Sometimes you're lucky, but other times... I have to make sure my kids aren't around or their ears will burn.

  • @MatthewCBilyeu
    @MatthewCBilyeu 4 года назад +40

    As a guy who does this stuff in my driveway, it's oddly cathartic to see a pro struggle with the same kind of problem and the same silly solutions. Honestly one of my favorite videos.

  • @MikeFoxGolf
    @MikeFoxGolf 5 лет назад +54

    Weld a nut to the stud then weld a wrench to the nut then spray with lube then sacrifice 2 chickens while facing the setting sun and chanting “demon stud I expel thee” works every time.

    • @supersabrosinho
      @supersabrosinho 4 года назад +2

      I like the culminating chant, cleanses this Earth of the desecrating evil of corrosion

    • @aterack833
      @aterack833 4 года назад

      I think the parts past the lube just serve as a way to let the heat soak in and the welded wrench heat to keep the lube flowing

  • @RJMaker
    @RJMaker 6 лет назад +316

    Forget the lubes, sprays, vibration, crows, water, heat, ect... what won in the end was your determination.

    • @zerofriends5592
      @zerofriends5592 6 лет назад +16

      'Persistence pays off' ..an old saying every mechanic grows to respect.

    • @vollickplaysgames
      @vollickplaysgames 6 лет назад +6

      i scrolled to say the same thing ! lol good on ya man

    • @snertlegrubber
      @snertlegrubber 6 лет назад +2

      Damn right!

    • @brianb8401
      @brianb8401 6 лет назад +2

      i concur

    • @GettingNervous
      @GettingNervous 6 лет назад +5

      RJ_Make Thats exactly what I think. The rule is "dont give up". The most effective way to get a frozen bolt out is to use a lot of perspiration.

  • @VWWRENCHIE
    @VWWRENCHIE 6 лет назад +125

    " Call of the Crow" an SMA short film, where our hero, the small town mechanic, overcomes countless obstacles to emerge victorious in the battle of the stud.

    • @robertskolnick8162
      @robertskolnick8162 6 лет назад +2

      the real secret is ....ya gotta wait til da crow stops laugh n at ja.... next time walk away and shoot the darn crow.......

    • @yvetterunkle7583
      @yvetterunkle7583 6 лет назад +1

      vwwrenchie

    • @parochial2356
      @parochial2356 5 лет назад +2

      In theaters now. Rated R for brief, strong language.

    • @erikjohnson2889
      @erikjohnson2889 5 лет назад

      hahahahahahaha brilliant

    • @jeremymenchaca
      @jeremymenchaca 4 года назад +2

      In a world of broken bolts, rusted parts, and broken wires, there is only one man who rises to meet those challenges. His name is Eric O. These are his stories.

  • @cdshawn
    @cdshawn 6 лет назад +76

    Last place in the world I thought I'd hear a "deeez nuts" joke!!

  • @justpassnthru
    @justpassnthru 4 года назад +26

    Finally a car repair channel that shows the frustration and heartache that is part of every mechanics life.

  • @super20dan
    @super20dan 5 лет назад +40

    this is why I switched to cutting grass for a living

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 6 лет назад +108

    Thanks for keeping the camera rolling, I would have been throwing things. You were cool as ice cream, ha ha.

    • @SouthMainAuto
      @SouthMainAuto  6 лет назад +3

      Did you get your package yet?

    • @spelunkerd
      @spelunkerd 6 лет назад +2

      Mail moves slow up here in the cold north. I'll let you know, thanks for the heads-up! There's another Canadian mail strike coming, it could take a while.

  • @gamesmaster54
    @gamesmaster54 6 лет назад +49

    Can you get a broken bolt out with heat and a crayon?? Judging by the fact the video is Twenty-eight minutes long. No...

  • @frazerguest2864
    @frazerguest2864 5 лет назад +57

    “If I cry, will you hold me ?” LOL
    I feel your pain, admire your perseverance and ability not to swear and threaten the truck with setting it on fire.

    • @marcusambrester
      @marcusambrester 3 года назад +1

      The power of your emotional vulnerability is what coaxed the broken stud out . . .

    • @daleburrell6273
      @daleburrell6273 3 года назад +1

      ...that's the mark of a real PROFESSIONAL!!!

    • @Golo1949
      @Golo1949 2 года назад +1

      Totally agree, it seems some people cannot speak without swearing.

  • @pttanz
    @pttanz 4 года назад +32

    This was like watching a suspense movie bro. lmao

  • @davidr9408
    @davidr9408 5 лет назад +33

    My goodness you had me laughing so hard! "If I cry would you hold me" 😂😂

  • @kellyokamoto1604
    @kellyokamoto1604 6 лет назад +157

    Is it just me or does this ALWAYS happen to the bolt that's LEAST accessible???

    • @exidy2290
      @exidy2290 6 лет назад +14

      Murphy's law, it's always the least accessible.

    • @poppy1007
      @poppy1007 6 лет назад +12

      +Exidy Murphy's Law states that anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. I like O,tools law, that states that Murphy was an optimist

    • @Prosecute-fauci
      @Prosecute-fauci 5 лет назад +3

      This bolt was extremely accessible

    • @robertscott245
      @robertscott245 5 лет назад

      Yep it's called Murphy's Law.

    • @randyeastman4500
      @randyeastman4500 5 лет назад +1

      nope not just you all but one comes out always gotta be one

  • @ateamfan42
    @ateamfan42 5 лет назад +87

    "Something that should take 30 seconds turned into a 3 day ordeal."
    So, like, every project I attempt then?

    • @REDMAN298
      @REDMAN298 4 года назад

      I put off replacing my kitchen faucet for a year. Figured everything was gonna go wrong. Finally did it this week without a snag. Even re-used the line and compression fitting for the dishwasher. I keep looking for leaks and really appreciate that it`s all good.

    • @kylewellsby2176
      @kylewellsby2176 4 года назад

      R D every thing I do it’s always 10 times longer than the average person😂

    • @williamcollins4082
      @williamcollins4082 3 года назад

      And not just wrenching ether !!!
      Fixing other people's screw ups !!!

    • @UOttawaScotty
      @UOttawaScotty 3 года назад

      I have to do this exact this on my motorhome this week, only I suck at welding and have a shit welder, so watching you, I don't like my chances here

  • @alcamus1068
    @alcamus1068 5 лет назад +33

    Way to hang in there! No flying tools or fbombs! ! Great vid man.

  • @brentfrancis9187
    @brentfrancis9187 4 года назад +19

    If this was me doing the video there would have been about 25 minutes of: BEEEEEEEEEEEP ending with: Henry Ford.

  • @johnnhoj854
    @johnnhoj854 4 года назад +34

    "Some say he is still there, welding nuts to the bolt, only to break them off again."

    • @GatheringSticks
      @GatheringSticks 4 года назад +3

      i seen people have success by welding a washer on then a nut.

    • @philbg6378
      @philbg6378 3 года назад +1

      Perseverance did it my friend! Good job.

  • @bradjohnson6919
    @bradjohnson6919 6 лет назад +34

    You used the wrong color crayon. The green ones work every time. :-)

    • @deucerider430
      @deucerider430 3 года назад

      But only on the driver's side! You need those yellow ones for the passenger side!

  • @ultimatehandyman
    @ultimatehandyman 6 лет назад +58

    You could have cut a slot in it with a Dremel and undone it with a screwdriver!
    Only joking but that is one of the comments I always get when doing jobs like this!
    Greetings from across the pond 😉

    • @Dg-zj6jo
      @Dg-zj6jo 4 года назад

      yes just weild a bit metal on it unscew it ha

    • @greg778123
      @greg778123 4 года назад +5

      Fertilizer & diesel fuel blow the bolt out 😂

    • @milotorres6894
      @milotorres6894 3 года назад +1

      D. all of they above.

    • @svampae
      @svampae 3 года назад

      Wouldnt that work tho? Or would you just destroy the bolt even more?

    • @thefogisgone3662
      @thefogisgone3662 3 года назад

      Lol maybe one situation where you could actually utilize the little place for a wrench under the handle on the snap on screwdrivers

  • @diamondperformancefab5931
    @diamondperformancefab5931 6 лет назад +116

    @South Main Auto Repair
    As a former ford dealership technician I can tell you that the best way to remove a broken stud on a ford modular cylinder head is with a welder. You were not getting enough penetration on your first attempts due to a dirty stud and a poor ground. Here is the procedure I followed that worked for me every time and helped me run circles around other techs performing the same job.
    Disconnect negative battery cable
    Cut the stud down until only 1/16" or less protrudes from the head.
    Clean the stud surface with a wire brush in your die grinder.
    Clamp a new 3/8" nut in some vise grips so that the nut can be held flush to the cylinder head.
    Attach the ground to the vise grips. ***If you attach the ground to the engine block you will likely get a poor connection due to oxidization in between the stud and the threaded hole.
    Set your MIG welder as if you were welding 1/4" plate and weld the nut to the stud, making sure to keep the angle of the mig gun parallel with the stud.
    The weld should be as hot as possible without distorting the hex of the nut.
    Immediately after welding, slowly remove the nut/stud with a 3/8" impact on the low setting.
    If the nut/stud is allowed to cool before trying, it will be harder to remove.
    After one truck with 6 broken studs you will be a master at this process and it will take less than 5 min per stud guaranteed!!!
    A tip to aid in the removal of the nuts on unbroken studs, park the truck in the sun and let it idle for 20 min to thoroughly heat soak the engine, and remove the manifold nuts while the engine is hot.

    • @elguapo1690
      @elguapo1690 5 лет назад +1

      Why cut the stud down so far?

    • @tacman1845
      @tacman1845 5 лет назад +7

      @@elguapo1690 longer studs are more likely to twist and break.

    • @briankidwell232
      @briankidwell232 5 лет назад +2

      Warm engine they come out everytime

    • @jackschitt7783
      @jackschitt7783 5 лет назад +3

      "You were not getting enough penetration on your first attempts due to a dirty stud and a poor ground." This had absolutely nothing to do with electricity. And welding a nut to a broken bolt doesn't always work 100% of the time. It does work most of the time but not all of the time. Doing it this way can sheer the bolt off flush with the surface of whatever it's in.

    • @mikeberry304
      @mikeberry304 4 года назад +1

      Good advise is always welcome as long as it's not from the guy in the pub , because he knows nowt , great tip !!!

  • @pachioue
    @pachioue 5 лет назад +26

    "So, that was pretty easy..."
    The way you said that made me laugh so hard I almost toppled over with my chair!
    Thank you for taking the time to make these videos, and I hope all is well in the world of SMA!

  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993 4 года назад +7

    Next time use a larger nut- like a 1/2 size so you can weld around to outer edge of the stud as well as the top- you will get a lot more strength that way.

  • @frugalprepper
    @frugalprepper 6 лет назад +80

    Well Duh you have to use gravity to pull the melted crayon down into the threads. You have to flip the truck up over on its side first.

    • @chrishernandez2490
      @chrishernandez2490 6 лет назад +13

      No, you have to remove the engine, and reinstall it upside down. Then use the crayon

    • @fyshlearnstoskate
      @fyshlearnstoskate 6 лет назад +26

      Obviously this only works in Australia

    • @rickh6963
      @rickh6963 6 лет назад +3

      You three need professional help..... I was laughing hard!!

    • @kweidnernc
      @kweidnernc 5 лет назад +5

      You used the wrong color crayon.

    • @frugalprepper
      @frugalprepper 5 лет назад +1

      @@kweidnernc Right you are supposed to use a clear one.

  • @aytonbob
    @aytonbob 6 лет назад +29

    The best method is to get someone else to do it.

  • @jimmygarlon750
    @jimmygarlon750 6 лет назад +26

    This is better than Days of our lives

  • @ryansteve8739
    @ryansteve8739 5 лет назад +6

    I think what made the difference was the last time you welded the nut on the stud the nut was further down allowing you to get more surface to weld on versus the other times you were only welding on the top of the stud. The last time you were able to weld a little on the sides of the stud. So I think that helped and made it a lot stronger.
    Some people say first weld a flat washer to the stud and then weld a nut over it. It allows for more purchase. Just my opinion.

    • @williamduncan5679
      @williamduncan5679 Год назад

      I think once you welded the nut on the bolt let it cool down then heat the body around the stud through the ports both sides of the stud without heating the stud,simple Eric deary me.😂😂😂

  • @aoksys31
    @aoksys31 4 года назад +7

    I've used an old syringe with a long slender needle to inject penetrating oil or other lubes into otherwise inaccessible spaces.
    You might be surprised to find that there is almost always a tiny crevice or hole available to let in the penetrating fluid.
    It's a lot neater than spraying all that stuff all over your work area hoping to get a few molecules of oil into the threads.

  • @felixpetrowski1286
    @felixpetrowski1286 6 лет назад +17

    Walking away..... but you have to walk back.....that's persistence!!!! Remember, a Master has failed more times than a beginner has ever tried!!!

    • @repro7780
      @repro7780 6 лет назад

      Do, or do not. There is no try - Yoda

    • @ericsandrin8123
      @ericsandrin8123 2 года назад

      thats how you become a master..a whole collection of failures and stubborn persistence till it works...

  • @kellyspeppers
    @kellyspeppers 6 лет назад +70

    Did you use Ford blue crayola?

    • @johnrschmidt2
      @johnrschmidt2 6 лет назад +10

      Those can only be used on a Toyota Crayola.....

  • @maxw576
    @maxw576 6 лет назад +19

    Gee Eric - Everyone knows blue crayons lock the threads. Thank goodness you didn't use red!

    • @SouthMainAuto
      @SouthMainAuto  6 лет назад +5

      Yellow next time?

    • @ethanpoole3443
      @ethanpoole3443 6 лет назад

      South Main Auto Repair I thought green was the penetrating color? :-)

  • @tacman1845
    @tacman1845 5 лет назад +3

    What I have had luck with is welding a nut, heating the cylinder head, and then using an air duster upside down to freeze the bolt. Expansion and contraction science at its finest. Doesn't always work, but that goes for any method.

  • @TheWoodman064
    @TheWoodman064 5 лет назад +8

    I was greatly rooting for you from the very beginning! And so you know, and I have only told one other person this, my dad! You are beyond and an incredible, persevering and determined mechanic. You are, the master of mechanic masters oh great one! Lol! Awsome job! I am so enjoying watching you work!

  • @retroguitarmaster
    @retroguitarmaster 6 лет назад +139

    Scotty would've removed it in 4 minutes with just a pair of pliers

    • @SouthMainAuto
      @SouthMainAuto  6 лет назад +67

      and a grunt

    • @TheWwong
      @TheWwong 6 лет назад +63

      It would take Scotty more than 4 minutes to find a pair of pliers in that sty he call a garage...………..LOL

    • @MXSLICK
      @MXSLICK 6 лет назад +7

      a little wigglin and a little pullin...ughhh

    • @georgemay9700
      @georgemay9700 6 лет назад +11

      South Main Auto Repair just remember to RING THAT BELL

    • @gmoney9588
      @gmoney9588 6 лет назад +9

      One difference , this wasn't a prop , it was real world .

  • @robertoruiz7069
    @robertoruiz7069 6 лет назад +11

    That's not the smell of CRAYON....Thats' the smell of DESPERATION

  • @QQTrick1QQ
    @QQTrick1QQ 6 лет назад +42

    You used the wrong color crayon, amateur mistake. And remember you can do it so we don't have to.

    • @motomarco_
      @motomarco_ 5 лет назад +5

      It's like Loctite. Blue is for medium-seized bolts and green is for bolts which don't move at all 😁

    • @adventureoflinkmk2
      @adventureoflinkmk2 5 лет назад +4

      @@motomarco_ be careful with the red....

  • @TomCooperBHG
    @TomCooperBHG 4 года назад +9

    Mad props, sir. Thanks for the PG channel and for helping this layman feel a TON better about the trials of stuck bolts!

  • @jeffclark5024
    @jeffclark5024 4 года назад +3

    I’ve had good luck with the nut welding technique. I don’t cool it tho. Give it 1 min to cool then use hand tools and slowly work it back and fourth while still warm. Like you, I’ve also had to do it multiple times. Usually that slow careful back and fourth tears the aluminum in the first couple threads or two until it comes free. Good work! It’s not a job for the faint of heart.

  • @IamDerick
    @IamDerick 6 лет назад +11

    I have done it many times, they have never just fallen out after the treatment. I would say it is about 75 percent effective over my many years of doing it. Heat-treat-cool 3 or 4 times is my preferred method. Cool vid! And yes my VW interior smells like a crayon. ;)

  • @damnoldguy
    @damnoldguy 6 лет назад +25

    Idea for a regular segment...mythbusting auto repair tips?

  • @johncavanagh3900
    @johncavanagh3900 6 лет назад +35

    Clearly the problem is with your wrench. You see, it was the last wrench made on a Friday by a guy who just divorced his wife who cheated on him with his best friend. She took the kids and the house and his dog. And that Friday was his last day because the plant was closing down due to the rising cost of steel. Lunch gave him a terrible case of the bubble guts and his hemorrhoids flared up.

    • @jakeaustin9894
      @jakeaustin9894 6 лет назад +2

      This is oddly specific.... I like it!

    • @michaelb4060
      @michaelb4060 5 лет назад +3

      Did you find another job at a different wrench manufacturer?

  • @timbower9413
    @timbower9413 2 года назад +2

    Great video. First one I've seen that documents the process warts and all. Stuff goes wrong. When it does, go to plan B. Still going wrong? Go to plans C-G. That was way more helpful than watching someone remove a broken bolt that was set up for video brevity. Now I know not to get discouraged when I twist off the first weld without budging the bolt. Thanks for the vid!

  • @imafarmboy2
    @imafarmboy2 4 года назад +6

    It was the Facebook prayer request. You got some pull, Son.

  • @vodonnell1
    @vodonnell1 6 лет назад +21

    Got to admire your persistence, good job.

  • @mongomay1
    @mongomay1 5 лет назад +30

    From the AL/FE electrolysis (white powder in the threads) the heat, quenching and mechanical vibration were positives in removing the broken bolt/stud.
    What I still do not understand is that there are some very high temp anti-seize products out there that are not being used. I use to use pool o-ring lube silicon grease or silicone vacuum pump grease, when I was fastening bolts into Aluminum to prevent that electrical connection and fill the air gaps on the threads to remove the amount of space electrolysis could occur.
    The navy learned the hard way back in the 80's with aluminum superstructures on top of a steel ship and salt water to try and save weight for new fuel economy standards on new ships being built.
    Have the same thing going on in Upstate N.Y, just on the highways. Wait until folks need body work on the new ford trucks....

    • @ronplucksstrings7112
      @ronplucksstrings7112 4 года назад +10

      You are absolutely right!...the white powder on the threads was aluminum oxide, preferencial to iron oxide because of alu's place in the galvanic series..it locks the things together better than welding! Like I always say...you can't stop mother nature! ...but you can slow her WAAAY down! by using graphite or zinc filled anti-seize greases when assembling....but why should any manufacturer? When the bolts are new, at the factory they don't have any problem...more planned obsolescence by those pricks ...if there was an option where you could pay an extra $100 when you bought a new car, to have it fully assembled with anti-seize, I would! Anybody who assembles something where alu is in contact with iron, like bolts in alu or bolts through an alu bushing, and doesn't use anti-seize, should be slapped about the head and shoulders...MANY times. That is all!

    • @tsakaln1
      @tsakaln1 4 года назад

      @@ronplucksstrings7112 Great points! Can you suggest some products that we can buy at NAPA or some other retail shop to use for engines (high heat) or other applications? Much appreciated!

    • @ronplucksstrings7112
      @ronplucksstrings7112 4 года назад +4

      @@tsakaln1 For high heat, you can't beat a graphite/nickel filled anti-seize, because although greases will cook away, you'll never cook away graphite or the other particulates!...yes I said NEVER!
      Permatec/Loctite Anti-Seize is one of my favorite products (no relation!)! Use is on just about anything with threads, including hot, like exhaust manifolds and headbolts! (When using it where fastening torques are specified, like headbolts, adjust specified torques down by 10-15% because of the "K-Factor"). Cheers

    • @tsakaln1
      @tsakaln1 4 года назад

      @@ronplucksstrings7112 Thanks for the tips and quick reply!

    • @kevinhancock4064
      @kevinhancock4064 3 года назад

      @@ronplucksstrings7112 I second that why can't these firms use anti sieze or whichever suitable I've currently got 5 header bolts to sort it's a headache but love the video persistence paid off

  • @skippyglen6610
    @skippyglen6610 6 лет назад +12

    I tell what got that stud out was an absolute refusal to be beaten. Been there myself and was willing that stud out with you. What a feeling though when they start moving. All the best and love the channel.

  • @fifteen8
    @fifteen8 Год назад +3

    Great vid. I think it was the heat and the crow coming to your aid. He was commanding the head to submit. My ASE Master Tech uncle always told me "don't let it beat you." Your patience and humor are great to watch.

  • @claytoncoolidge992
    @claytoncoolidge992 3 года назад +3

    As odd as it sounds I've had really good luck with soldering flux. I like to apply some before I heat it then after heating i just keep slathering it on till its too cool to melt any more. One good thing about this method is once I go to weld a nut on I heat the bolt one last time and melt the flux off and its pretty clean to weld to. Weld a washer to the bolt first and use a nut thats bigger than the bolt would use this allows for some penetration below the top of the nut and make sure to weld it to the washer as well. I never allow it to cool too much after I weld and try to use the more directed heat than the torch provides as welding tends not to warm up the other surface as much

  • @jackmeholf5901
    @jackmeholf5901 6 лет назад +39

    Just recently had a 5.4 l manifold job. Broke 5 studs off tried welding nuts on they just kept breaking on each one .. tried welding an 8 mm washer on first then weld a nut to the washer every one of them came out on first try.

    • @dopodownsu
      @dopodownsu 5 лет назад +3

      This. The washer allows your weld much more real estate to hold onto the stud.

    • @gonesideways6621
      @gonesideways6621 5 лет назад +1

      Ideal weld would be front and back of nut since this is not possible washer is next best option.

    • @golfish8589
      @golfish8589 5 лет назад

      There is a newer message than yours written by a Ford mechanic talking about how you should grind the welder to the nut for a better weld

  • @BigDaddy_MRI
    @BigDaddy_MRI 6 лет назад +9

    “Endeavor to Persevere.” - Chief Dan George from “The Outlaw Josie Wales”.

  • @bartscave
    @bartscave 6 лет назад +66

    I'm more of a welder than a tech, but I have done a ton of broken bolts. I have some posts on IATN about it. The trick, even for recessed bolts in aluminum is still welding, just a little different. For your 8MM stud example I would take a big black iron nut, say 1/2"-5/8" or so. Hold it over the stud and place your mig wire in the middle of the hole. Fire it up, concentrating the heat in the center on the stud, then slowly filling the hole in the nut. let it cool and back it out. It may not work the first or second time, but each time the stud heats in its ridged hole it shrinks a little. It will come out. I have done this on recessed bolts in aluminum as well. Tip: ground close to weld, you don't want welding current traveling through valves or electronics.

    • @wyatthull6613
      @wyatthull6613 6 лет назад +10

      Bart Young I worked a Chrysler dealer and a Chevy dealer as a body man. I’ve successfully removed over 100 of these bolts using the technique you describe. Never had one give a problem. And the worst part is never got paid for the repairs because I wasn’t a ‘certified tech’. Just happened to be the only guy in the shop that knew how to weld.

    • @leupold4089
      @leupold4089 6 лет назад +4

      Bart Young, I also I'am a welder in fab shop for 30 yrs. you are correct he wasn't getting enough penetration on the bolt. weld laying on top ,I would grind tip of bolt to a taper and weld around, but in a close spot like that a over size nut great idea in any situation .

    • @signlsirchir2156
      @signlsirchir2156 6 лет назад +2

      Used this method yesterday on a pos 3400 v6 exhaust manifold stud. 13 nuts later I finally got one to stick.

    • @JP-kk5vw
      @JP-kk5vw 6 лет назад +11

      @@wyatthull6613 I would demand payment from who ever is in charge for the repair! Let the certified hack do it then. Never give away your skills at a job. Furthermore, if the certified hack did not compensate you with something, ballgame tickets, tools, hooking you up with a chick Etc. Then it's a one time show for that guy!

    • @randy1ization
      @randy1ization 5 лет назад +3

      ALSO always disconnect both battery cables when welding on a car

  • @danielalamo2075
    @danielalamo2075 3 года назад +1

    It was all of the above. And the call of crow stopped because death came to the evil bonds that held in the bolt. And thank you for showing and sharing your FRUSTRATION! It seemed like I'm the only one getting the "swami stumper " problems. I have used all the methods you used along with lots of cussing and throwing things. And walking away. But I'm only working on my own stuff on my little ranch. I love your channel. You always show real problems and real outcomes. And thanks again.

  • @mattijur4374
    @mattijur4374 3 года назад +3

    Perseverance was the key.
    And I wish there would be a sequel: removing the three stuck bolts from the other side.

  • @miguelfatman6066
    @miguelfatman6066 5 лет назад +10

    Hey Mr. "O", your patience knows no bounds but I am also darn sure you used the wrong colour crayon.

  • @doug12382
    @doug12382 6 лет назад +19

    2 video's in one day making my day

  • @opl500
    @opl500 6 лет назад +27

    The studs come out easy, if they haven't been drenched in road salt

    • @ckm-mkc
      @ckm-mkc 6 лет назад +3

      This is why I live in California after years in Maine...

    • @FirstLast-ze7sl
      @FirstLast-ze7sl 6 лет назад +2

      LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

    • @emerybryant
      @emerybryant 6 лет назад +1

      facts 🙄😆😆😆😆

  • @ricktipton9563
    @ricktipton9563 3 года назад +3

    I can enjoy watching this guy being cool when faced with frustrating crap. By the time I'm onto plan C, I've yelled plan F this S several times. Keep the good videos with good attitude coming Sir.

  • @oh8wingman
    @oh8wingman 5 лет назад +1

    Sometimes using a larger nut will help especially if there is some stud sticking out like it was here. If the stud is long enough to actually protrude through the nut you can now get a fillet weld around the stud which will be stronger than the plug weld you got here. If the stud does not project out as far as this one did a larger nut will allow you to get a better weld on it simply because there is more room. If it is broken off flush, weld a flat washer to the stud and then a nut to the flat washer. I've used all three methods over the years with relative success. Always let it cool to the point of touch before trying to twist it out.

  • @davidstuck2866
    @davidstuck2866 5 лет назад +6

    glad you finally got it out. i am now retired but spent my life as a motorcycle mechanic. i had an exhaust stud that was seized in aluminum so bad, i did everything all of us at the shop could think of. with no luck at all. to get it out, i ended up drilling along side of the stud into the threads, and use multiple applications of muriatic acid which ate enough of the material away that the stud finally broke free enough to extract it. its funny how determined we can get when we have to.

  • @tomthumb1941
    @tomthumb1941 6 лет назад +8

    I watched the video, my conclusion was the heating and being persistent was what made it happen, also walking away for a while works many times when you go back to it. great video. Tom.W.

  • @jusb1066
    @jusb1066 6 лет назад +19

    larger nut so you an get weld around the sides not just on top

    • @roadkill5333
      @roadkill5333 6 лет назад +1

      Jusb1066...I was thinking, "WASH OFF SOME OF THE CRAYON WAX, AMD TRANSMISSION FLUID, FIRST"!!!

  • @kenr.4526
    @kenr.4526 3 года назад +1

    Back in the day while working for a famous name muffler shop, we did a lot of VW Beetle mufflers. The attached directly to flanges that were cast into the aluminum heads secured usually by steel studs. The studs were typically rusted down to the thickness of pencil leads. The usual solution was to leave the nut alone, rusted to the stud, and heat the ears of the flange part of the head only. This made the flange expand and release the stud enough to where you could back the whole stud out with a socket/swivel/extension/ratchet. You had to work quickly and as soon as you felt it starting to bind up, stop and add a bit more heat and then repeat the process. I still have a few that I removed as "trophies" that always made people say "NO WAY !". Usually replaced the studs and nuts with stainless. This was why it took about 2 1/2 hrs to do a VW muffler held on by 4 nuts ! It worked about 90% of the time.

  • @jonhaskell9630
    @jonhaskell9630 3 года назад +1

    My "last resort" trick is to clean the bolt with a die grinder, etc and then grab a fender washer that closely fits the bolt. Drill a smaller one if necessary.
    Grab like a 3/4 nut and tack it to the washer to hold it. (button magnets will hold it in place, but they DIE as soon as the welder heat nails them).
    Put the welder on the highest power, and slow the wire feed... which puts more heat to it.
    Using the oversized nut allows you to weld in around the threaded portion of the bolt (instead of just the broken end). After you've filled the nut with weld (circular motion), quench it with a sopping wet shop rag till it stops steaming.
    THEN hit it with the tiger piss, kroil, blue crayon, or the special sauce from McDonald's, before it completely cools.
    Let it cool off completely before trying anything.
    I like the air hammer idea... Never tried that. Maybe it's worth leaving an indent in the nut, rather than welding it "full", so the tool can set in there.
    Nice video as always!

  • @jpack61108
    @jpack61108 6 лет назад +9

    Wont be long until you hit 200K.. This channel has grown like wild fire over the past couple years.

  • @ColdWarVet607
    @ColdWarVet607 6 лет назад +9

    Mrs. O did it by being there...."It was beauty that killed the beast".

  • @jpdtx7509
    @jpdtx7509 6 лет назад +9

    Eric didnt "welcome me back" in this video how rude...lol

  • @randymeyer6482
    @randymeyer6482 2 года назад +1

    Exactly what I do...also works great for installing bearings into hubs that normally need to be pressed in. Heat the hub, freeze the bearing..

  • @laurijorgenson6683
    @laurijorgenson6683 2 года назад +2

    Eric, You often have me laughing out loud with your comical comments along with teaching me. You are entertaining and useful on so many levels. Thanks so much for all of it.

  • @defendermender4959
    @defendermender4959 6 лет назад +20

    Write to the pope for some holy water? i heard if you quench it with that it just falls out.

    • @robertskolnick8162
      @robertskolnick8162 6 лет назад +1

      only on Easter week or ground hogs day!!!!! lol

    • @bensilva5173
      @bensilva5173 6 лет назад +1

      You can make your own holy water, no Pope needed. Take a clean pan, fill with water and boil the hell out of it! Lol

    • @rattmann36863
      @rattmann36863 5 лет назад

      Oh crap!!! I looked at the light!!!

  • @SmittySmithsonite
    @SmittySmithsonite 6 лет назад +27

    It's not the beat, the heat, the quench, the wrench .... nor is is the crayon .... it's the TENACITY.😁 I've got a little of that too. At the expense of my health, I'll keep at something until it submits, one way or the other! Swearing furiously at the top of my lungs, and throwing tools in every direction seems to help too. 😜
    Nice work! Now I dub you, TENACIOUS EEEEEE. 🙌 👍👍😎🤘🤘

    • @SouthMainAuto
      @SouthMainAuto  6 лет назад +18

      I honestly think it was all the mother effer's when the camera was off haha

    • @SmittySmithsonite
      @SmittySmithsonite 6 лет назад +1

      That gets 'em every time! 😁

    • @MrGamerholic
      @MrGamerholic 6 лет назад +1

      @@SmittySmithsonite amen to the original comment. I can't tell you how many times if done that exact thing. Had a starter bolt on an 85 mustang v8 (lower bolt faces the front of the car and you can only get to it with 2 feet of extensions), would not come out for almost 6 hours lol. I cursed up a storm on that one.

    • @SmittySmithsonite
      @SmittySmithsonite 6 лет назад +2

      Yeah, I don't know how anyone can work on anything built after 1995 for 3 minutes without cursing the engineers who designed it. By minute 7, I'm throwing stuff, LOL. 😂

    • @scroatworx2339
      @scroatworx2339 6 лет назад

      smitty, lol my ass off! I hear ya brother, i'm the same!

  • @2-old-Forthischet
    @2-old-Forthischet 6 лет назад +6

    It was like watching an episode of the original Twilight Zone. Oh the suspense!
    Not enough French!
    The older I get, the more I use anti seize.
    Dump the vehicle in the closest lake and tell the customer there was too much water damage.

  • @patharmon9760
    @patharmon9760 3 года назад +2

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I've been saying they smell like crayons for as long as I've worked on cars, and no one knows what I'm talking about.

  • @gregbrown9354
    @gregbrown9354 4 года назад +3

    Being a long time mechanic what I want to know is how do you charge for one that takes so much time?

  • @davidbrown1037
    @davidbrown1037 6 лет назад +26

    My "GO-TO" method is to weld a nut on with a TIG Torch. That system uses an electric ARC from a Tungstin Electrode in Argon Gas to shield the air from the molten puddle. The amperage is controlled by a foot peddle and you can hold the arc at low amperage on the stud without adding filler metal. Heat the stud and allow the heat to soak deep into the threads to expand the stud and break the corrosion structure up a little. Finally add 309 Stainless Filler Rod to weld the nut on. Spray with penetrant & follow the procedures that you did. TIG and 309 Filler material is usually a much stronger weld than MIG in such a small area. You can also reach down to a stud below the surface, heat it up, and add rod and build it up to above the surface, then weld a nut on, without affecting the hole and threads. The precise control of the TIG process makes this possible with some practice, but it takes some specialized equipment. Anyone with TIG equipment should try it. I once removed 7 broken studs from a Chrysler Slant 6 in about 40 Minuets. I have also removed a few hundred broken 5/16" Exhaust Studs form Aluminum Aircraft Cylinder Heads that are set in HELICOILS at the factory when new. And yes.... I was on the edge of my seat.... having been there may times.

  • @DaneSaysStuff
    @DaneSaysStuff 6 лет назад +8

    The thing I learned with welding a nut on, is to let it cool completely before touching it. I went thru the same battle as you on a GM 5.3 and what won in the end was weld the nut on, then go do something else till its cooled off. Every time I tried it hot, the weld broke.

    • @loopy4517
      @loopy4517 5 лет назад +1

      I agree. Letting the nut cool is very important on something like this, especially with the size of the bolt you were trying to remove. Eric, your videos make me feel like I'm back at work with the guys. I wish your videos were around 15 years ago when I was still working on my cars myself. Keep up the great work.

  • @frotobaggins7169
    @frotobaggins7169 6 лет назад +8

    eric, not that i think it makes any huge difference but your vice grips were backwards. many pliers don't grip so well when used backwards. though i'm not so sure straight jaw vice grips care that much but the curved jaw sure do. just .o2 fwiw

    • @jhitt79
      @jhitt79 6 лет назад +1

      froto baggins the teeth on vise grips are not directional.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 6 лет назад +2

      it's more the way the "jaws" clamp, one way puts more force on the fixed jaw, the other puts more on the moving jaw and makes it loosen grip.
      want to get crazy? vice grip the vice grip jaws :))

  • @klaw163
    @klaw163 4 года назад +3

    Oh man...you had me laughing with the VW interior smell reference but I was rolling on the ground with "bofa deez nuts" 🤣

  • @EATSLEEPFARM
    @EATSLEEPFARM 3 года назад +1

    Quick tip for anyone one dealing with this that has a welder. Get you a washer that’s the same size as the bolt ex: 1/2 bolt grab a 1/2 washer or even the next size up and weld it to the broken bolt. Even works great for bolts broke flush. Once you have it welded get a nut that has the same inner diameter as the whole washer or atleast close. The object is you have a lot more area to weld to and a better chance of getting good penetration. Have never not had a broken bolt come out by doing this. Just thought I’d share

  • @mikedayitt
    @mikedayitt 6 лет назад +6

    Eric ...eric... if ALL else FAILS...acid air from your tire compressor hose
    what about that stud remover thingy you had way back when when you put it over a nut that was stuck and plugged it in to remove a stubborn stud
    Seriously tho I am a rookie compared to you But I had a similiar situation in which I heated it up while orange and having a socket ready while heated started turning it back and forth til she broke loose and got er out But that was my one and only experience heat will expand it but also make it slightly "softer" only tem I can use so that being said you should be able to turn it slightly. If cool then to me its defeating the purpose. Hot soft..cool hard threads stick
    I worked as a field machinist and the turbines that spin 10,000 rpms whe haeted the sleeve to slide the shafts out .010 collasp fit to keep em in place. So in your situation heating the aluminum up to what you would percieve to be ok then loosen the stud back and forth like you did while keeping the torch on it if feasible should work. You are expanding the block thread slightly bigger while the stud theorecticly (you get the spelling) should stay smaller than the thread. Thats the theory and I am sticking to it (tongue sticking out)

    • @ethanpoole3443
      @ethanpoole3443 6 лет назад

      mdcorman 55 I knew that “faulty air” was going to have to pay off one day!

  • @tiredoldmechanic1791
    @tiredoldmechanic1791 6 лет назад +7

    I've used all of your methods over the years except the wax. I've welded to the stud before adding a nut so I could use a bigger nut. The oblong stud allows for penetration along side the stud. I used 11018 welding rod. Once the nut is welded on, heat it with a torch to keep it hot for a few minutes then slowly back the torch away to let it cool slowly. This anneals the metal so it isn't as hard and brittle. Do the same to soften the metal if you have to drill the stud. I've used liquid nitrogen to super cool the broken bolt.

  • @xishootstuffx
    @xishootstuffx 6 лет назад +33

    The best way is to get it really hot, drop some THC extract on it, and then it doesn't matter if comes out.

    • @Dixler683
      @Dixler683 3 года назад +1

      Ishooter...I hate stupid drug jokes. Grow up, the 60’s was a long time ago.

  • @davidtimmel4027
    @davidtimmel4027 4 года назад +2

    I admire your patience and determination not to let that bolt lick you. Who can say which method worked? I think the heat and air hammer is best. The crayon, water, or krill oil never got near the threads. Great vids, educational and entertaining. Stay with it partner, we're with you!

  • @BeADad2447
    @BeADad2447 Год назад +1

    Your wife helped? I think your wife sounds Awesome we want to meet her! She has a nice voice! Great video!

  • @qualityrenov
    @qualityrenov 6 лет назад +7

    one of the best most intriguing episodes you have posted, Sir.
    good job, as usual

  • @rwbishop
    @rwbishop 6 лет назад +5

    I HATE such situations... there is no one solution. I've also tried the wax dance a couple of times with zero success. The thing I fear about wax is that it 'might' later seal out conventional penetrants. One thing you might try is a penetrant product called 'Mouse Milk'... it's actually been around forever, but rarely seen outside the aerospace industry. It's very good stuff; but as with anything, don't expect miracles. No affiliation... can be had on Amazon, comes in plastic squeeze bottles. Cool videos, thanks for sharing!

  • @factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7568
    @factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7568 6 лет назад +9

    The thing that worked was probably all the cussing and swearing off camera.

    • @qwerty13380
      @qwerty13380 6 лет назад +5

      it is a closely guarded secret that miss O is really the mechanic and when the camera is off she runs over and fixes the problem.

  • @randymiller1604
    @randymiller1604 3 года назад +1

    I am a retired boat motor mechanic removed 1 million broken bolt don’t hit theBolt heat around the Bolt and remove it quickly it works usually good luck God bless

  • @scottellis7618
    @scottellis7618 4 года назад +2

    I know this video has long since passed but I think it was the patience and persistence of the professional mechanic beautiful job nice hanging in there

  • @ogbobbye
    @ogbobbye 6 лет назад +6

    that was 26 minutes and 51 seconds of reliving every broken off rusted in can't get nothing on it cause you can't get to it but it has to come out bolt I've ever come across in my life and in the end the walk away is what always worked.

    • @dg-fx5qt
      @dg-fx5qt 5 лет назад

      I would have used brake fluid better than penetrating oil

  • @patrickmorrissey2271
    @patrickmorrissey2271 6 лет назад +7

    Edgar Allan Poe.... The Tale of the Telltale Bolt...... Quoth the Raven..... Nevermore....

  • @chipmonkeys3963
    @chipmonkeys3963 6 лет назад +7

    I think its obvious. The crayon aggervated the situation. Let this be a lesson. Do not use a crayon to remove a bolt! Lol

  • @seeya205
    @seeya205 4 года назад +1

    This is what people don't understand about car repair. One stubborn bolt can change a two hour job into an eight hour job!

  • @todddiedrich9106
    @todddiedrich9106 3 года назад +2

    I stumbled on you channel can’t stop watching it. It’s good to see a mechanic that just likes to fix things correctly and honest. I’m a mechanic as well been doing it a long time like to see if there’s another trick for problems always learning

  • @carltona6429
    @carltona6429 6 лет назад +15

    Patience is what did the trick.. patience and persistence.. another great video

    • @SteveP-vm1uc
      @SteveP-vm1uc 6 лет назад +1

      I think Mrs.O kept him in shape.. lol.... YEAH, MRS. O!!!!!!

  • @theevilbeard
    @theevilbeard 6 лет назад +14

    I think it was Mrs. O's support that got it.

  • @curt3990
    @curt3990 5 лет назад +5

    You know Mrs.O had to console while you cried lol....but for real that is never fun. Once again awesome video, thanks for the laughs and for keeping it real.

  • @scflooring8658
    @scflooring8658 3 года назад +2

    That mema is one smart lady she has taught you well! Great video love videos like this keep them coming!! Like they say patients is a virtue and you sir have more patients then anyone I’ve ever seen and not swearing too wow I would have said a few choice words on that bolt!! You the man Dr. O

  • @esi01
    @esi01 2 года назад +1

    Best suspenseful video I've ever seen!!! I cheered when that bolt came out!!!