South Main Auto Needs To Call In Help To Fix This One
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
- In this video I have a look at a customers '09 Hyundai Sonata that has the engine like on with a P0880 that just won't go away. It involves calling some help from Keith @L1Training and a trip to Wilbert's U-Pull It@wilbertsupullit . Ends up being a neat find and an easy fix.
-Enjoy!
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Want to see this PCM get fixed? Check out that video here ----> ruclips.net/video/ec61-5meVlw/видео.htmlsi=7x4FT7rqIA6_jb-Z
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THANK YOU SO MUCH for the Bonus Video with the PCM change over. I was seriously curious. AND your ability to diagnose these days, is getting kinda scary. When the planet collapses, you are definitely welcome on my ship as Head Mechanic : )
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A relay is a relay is a relay...... What?
Not anymore.😂
Worked on a few Hyundai and they certainly can be a bit weird.
Great video Eric.🤙
Yep, I can also do those ECMS. Keith is a good guy and will get it all fixed up
mate your the best, its like you always said its a process of elimination, just imaging if cars were still old school, no computers, check fuel air and then fuses, 9 times out of ten, it will be a fuse or fuel or basically electrical system, now days you need a PHD in auto electrical meaning the scan tool does most of the work, lol :)
Keep up the great work always watch your channel, you are a scholar and a gentleman. 🚗🚗😊😊👌👌👍👍✌✌
I once owned a Hyundai Santa Fe ('09 I think) that had this same intermittent transmission problem. I finally figured out that shutting the engine off and restarting it would usually fix it. Eventually the issue was permanently fixed by a deer which entered my path one morning and ended the lives of both the Santa Fe and the deer. Thanks for the vid.
😂
That deer was one great mechanic 😂
Did the deer say come at me bro I deer you
Poor car😮😂😂😂🎉🎉
Poor de[a]r!
Wow, an early one, my coffee isn't even ready yet. That was a good one. Even a trip to Wilberts.
"Lawnmower Man" is at it again 😂🤣😂. (At the end of the video).
I'm laid up in the hospital just got out of surgery yesterday and nothing better than a good old south main auto video to take my mind off things.
Hope you have a speedy recovery when I had surgery sma was a go too as well
Get well soon!
@@MikeKrumbs thank you
@@betomendez4304 thank you
Hope you feel better soon!
Wilbert's the most famous junk yard in the world!
Yes i know it and am 5000miles away so a bit much to travel Eric is the master detective in the world as well.
Eric's ability to sniff out "Automotive Electric Gremlins" that other shops cannot find or figure out is now the stuff of legend. He is the Car whisperer for sure.
The lesson taught to us today, is an important lesson in "Assumptions" that can lead amateur Gear-heads down the path of diagnostic defeat. Thank-you for the terrific content, and for showing us how you arrive at great solutions to complex problems.
Unlike watching TikTok, where viewers feel they have lost 3 hrs of their life-they will NEVER get Back; when I am done watching another Super-Installation by Eric, I really do feel smarter and like I honestly learned something that will benefit somebody I know 1 day!
Thanks for all you do at South Main Auto, we the faithful are humbled by your knowledge and for being a creator sharing it on RUclips.
Eric I’ve decided the only way I could continue to drive my older Duramax van would be to move close to your shop!
Son of a gun, that diagnosis was actually fun. Keith is a huge asset to the automotive community.
That parts yard is a gem. Treasure it.
Oh, we love us some jubk yard. Thanks Eric. :-)
That was some absolutely brilliant diagnosing, Dr. O.
Looks like many others had attempted to figure this out and failed. They just needed to call the Big Guns at SMA!
A trip to the yard. I know it's going to be a good video even before watching. !!!!
One of the advantages of living in South Alabama. It doesn’t snow . And our cars don’t rust out
Makes me so glad we don't have inspection. I would have never guessed changing a bad part to a good part would make it fail.
"y'all make darn sure you know what's goin in what hole". Words to live by, sir... lol
Lawnmower man is at it again.
I love it every time you say, "that's interesting"😊
If you can do it, the neighbor can mow the lawn while you do!
I really like that you use the junkyard as a parts source. Very cool!
"Run down to the junkyard", here in Canada that is the dealer. Actually, we call them the KaBoom dealer, for their engines that dynamite at 75mph sending your Spyundai into a spin on an icy highway.
Eric, i love the way you get excited once the so called light comes on! And bobs your uncle!
It's always a fun ride when you troubleshoot these odd codes.
Eric as always your logic and deductive reasoning gets the job done.
Diagnosing the problem and talking to the RUclips audience, and still had time to holler " CHEVY THUNDER " 😂😅 love it
I've got a 1995 Blazer that I keep running. I should get rid of it but when I get it going again it puts a smile on my face.
1975 C20 crew cab long bed 350/4speed. Gets lotsa looks now that it's ancient. I almost sold it to a coworker before I got sick. Sure glad I didn't let it go.
A trip to Wilberts and the lawnmower guy. My day is complete :)
27:40 LMAO...it dawned on me that the lawnmower guy is back!
Great diagnostic, Eric! Very clear minded approach!
When is a relay not a relay? When it's only a shunt, to use the same harness in a different vehicle model! Nice trap for young players 🙂
You can do diagnostics better than 99% of techs out there. Navigating electronics is not easy. Great video
Probably 99.9% 😂
20 yr Hyundai tech here. I retired Hyundai and went independent so I’m going off memory.
That generation Sonata was the most expensive to fix in my opinion but always kept running.
I do remember A/T relay faults happening a lot.
I may be saying that I remember replacing that relay a few times.
As though as Mr. O we'd love going to Wilbert's on your videos , That place is a gold mine .
I had same thing happen to me with a John Deere 3800 Telehandler. Ended up talking with a guy in Germany to find out that 1 relay out of 26 relays was just a jumper. Employee had been swapping around relays because of a clicking sound from relays.... Not sure what bill ended up being but it had the original service call (90 minute drive 1 way), Trucking to bring it back to shop & my time working on it (including dealing with JD because of bad wiring diagrams).
I think you're the most skilled mechanic I've ever seen including on youtube.
Watch Wes Work and Diagnose Dan aren't far off in their diagnostic skills and detailed explanations.
Love it when Eric finds a complex problem ... checks service data, does some logical diagnostics and discovers what the mystery(s) is ... and has a fix .... and we know he loves a trip to Pick n Pull
Thanks for taking us to Wilberts again.
Man o man, without that bonus PCM in hand that could've been a rough diag. Having two issues along with needing to clear the code to verify really can compound the head scratch.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for the Bonus Video with the PCM change over. I was seriously curious. AND your ability to diagnose these days, is getting kinda scary. When the planet collapses, you are definitely welcome on my ship as Head Mechanic : )
Used to own an NF body Sonata with the V6. Had a 2.4 version once as a loaner. Was very glad to get my own car back.
Love watching you process through the issue and come to the correct diagnosis.
A shunt is always on. It allows the ECM to measure the current flowing through the shunt. The failure to detect the change in the voltage on the scan tool, demonstrates what the shunt does. Since there is not shunt in there, nothing is providing the data and that is why it is not changing on the scan tool. When Eric opened the shunt, at Wilbert's, though it looked as though the other two pins were inactive, they can nonetheless detect the current flow from the magnetic field that forms as the current _begins_ to flow. That shunt looks like it works to me, and will send a data signal to the ECM as the key is turned on. The two "unused" pins you see, are antennas that detect a change in current flow. If the current is AC then the shunt can monitor the current flow continuously. If it is DC then only when it changes can the current be measured.
Really? The unused pins are antennas? What will they think of next.
Thats not true, the shunt is just a short, in this case it is not some current sensing device, the unused pins cant pick up any magnetic data....
Probably thinking of a ct (current transformer), which indeed only picks up a signal when the current changes. But you'd need a couple of coils around the wires your sensing. Doubt it can act as an antenna, way too much noise from the alternator usually.
@@plonkster I tend to agree with you. My comment was sarcasm.
@@shadetreemech290 No, actually that's not how this works at all. That's clearly not a current measuring shunt. This is very obviously a bypass for a feature not present in this particular car's powertrain. It's cheaper to do this sort of thing than have an entirely different wiring harness. Some other transmission available in that car would have a proper relay and appropriate PCM programming.
I'm astounded how you can troubleshoot while yakking the whole time. I get totally locked up when doing that, I almost forget to breathe. I experience mental and cognitive stalls where I'll freeze in the middle of the sentence or similar. But then again I see you're great in troubleshooting, and I'm not too shabby myself either. Highly interesting. It seems that human mind has several approaches to this kind of thing.
Sometimes talking out the problem helps me to rationalize whats going on. It makes me slow down and think, since my brain out runs my mouth.
Awesome diag. Never seen a “relay” that is just a jumper terminal
What he is basically doing is saying out loud what he's thinking... that's why these are so good, you can follow his train of thoughts step by step.
He has the gift of gab.
I am also like you.
No RUclips for me.
That’s the difference between rookie level and experienced level.
Awesome. Love seeing your diagnostic process.
Amazing how you do what you do!!!! Thanks for being here!!!
Excellent video! You never fail to amaze with your diagnostic ability.
That junk yard is so neat and organized. Unlike the ones around me.
I love it when you go to pick n pull. Great job as always.
Eric, that was so cool to watch and learn. As always, if you can do it, I can watch. Thanks so much for what you share.
Impressive thought & reasoning process. Allways informative.
Always a great video when we get a trip to Wilbert's!
I love when we take trips to wilberts!!! Awesome video Eric !!! Nice trouble shooting as always always enjoy it
Another great video. I learned a lot watching your channel. Thank you for keeping up the lessons.
The best is at work again, and again you nailed it. Too many parts changers out there that can’t fix things. It takes smarts and a person who lives his work to do what you do Mr O ! Really enjoyed the PCM repair video also. Another great repair tech in another trade that relates to auto fixes. Dam good stuff !!
Awesome diagnostic. Like you Eric love those pick and pulls for little parts especially.
You’re the best. Love going along to Wilberts. Aaron from Canada
Trip to Wilbert's first thing in the morning, great way to start a day!
South Main Auto Repair does it again, great job! My friend and I spent every weekend going to the scrapyard, you can learn a lot while there. Thanks for taking me down memory lane every visit to Wilbert's U-Pull it.
I wouldn't have guessed that was just a jumper!! 🤔
Excellent as always!
Just watched the video on the vin swap ... Thanks for including the link to view the process of the vin swap. Your the BEST !
Always, and I mean always check which hole!!
Very good video. As usual you follow thru with the plan. Keep them coming.
WEll done...and great for you AND your customer that L1 Automotive has your back on this computer stuff. Keep on keeping on sir.
Over my head but the way you explain it makes it enjoyable to watch and of course learn something
Just watched L1a working on this board. Can’t wait to see fellow RUclips shop helping SMA!
I love your videos where you go to the junkyard and pull parts. I live in the midwest, and our junkyards are truly junk yards. Your junkyard looks like they have some pretty nice cars in them.
Must have used that relay in another application. Replaced it with the shunt in order to use the same fuse box. Another mechanic who did not understand put a relay in place of the shunt and compounded the problem.
Amazing and amusing both at the same time. Eric, I wish there were a few talented Mechanics like you where I live. You are number one.
Advance auto sold me a flasher relay for my fuel pump one time. It looked the same and fit in the holes but didn’t work.
Thanks Eric, I watch every video you put out, mostly on the job while fixing my own NY state rusted crap. I enjoy all of them and always gain alittle something from them. Thanks
That is really interesting! I am glad you showed me that, I would have never guessed it
wouldn't be an SMA video without a random "CHEVY THUNDER!"... =) great video as always
Eric you have the gift of circuit plumbing in your brain. Nice find and discovery. I wonder if + or - voltage hit the control wire with the wrong relay plugged in?
Great Job Eric, very interesting with that "Dummy" relay !!
Your videos are top notch and your diag skills are amazing Eric. I'm never disappointed watching SMA videos.😎🤘
Thank you for all your videos, very intriguing. Also I m glad you opened that brown "relay" I have never seen that! Keep up the great work. I appreciate your time.
Eric, I love your vids. Not only are they hilarious, but they are informative. I learn a lot. There is always another way to do things. 30 years in the trade, also instructor. Your sayings, Ericisms are what we share as well.
I use some of that Eric O. Dictionary (as my fiancee would say) from time to time
Whoa fella!
Ope man down
Ope there's yer (REAL?) Problem, lady
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LOVE the collaboration guys! I'm a viewer of both channels.
Who doesn't enjoy a field trip to Wilbert's U-Pull It? Nice diag, Mr. O.!
I like that kind of diagnose, was so satisfying.
The BEST VIDEO EVER! Great info Eric! LOVE THE CHANNEL!
I learned something new today. Never saw a "Jumper" in a relay. Good ole Wilber's auto/truck land.
Good one Mr. O.
Thanks for the video Eric. Always interesting.
Upullandpay Denver is where I go for a fun treasure hunt. One of my favorite things to do on a nice day!
Got to love a Wilberts visit.
Oh hell it 5 am. I just sat up all night watching your videos. And reading comments😮😊
Another great video, had never seen a decoy relay before.
Ohhhhh yeah another wilberts field trip love it !!!!
Another reason why you the Best youtube tech out there!! Excellent job as always, keep the videos coming 😂
Dr O you are good !!! Jumper wire in a relay box ??? Love it !!!
It's not an SMA video if the neighbor isn't cuttin his grass! I swear that guy must have the fastest growing grass in the world!
As a former upstate NYer (now downstate), think I had the same neighbor. Every day, same time. Grass must be made PERFECTLY level. Kind of adorable in retrospect if this was the guy's proudest life's work but at the time it ruined a good many sunsets, parties, and bbq's.
Grass cant be growing in NY anymore. Maybe this video was shot a month or so ago…
.....he same neighbor will mow the snow when it comes....just to piss off Mr. O
Wilberts! Love that junk yard amazing! My junk yard I use is so disgusting it’s a obstacle course! Can’t even move around in it and so unorganized! Great investigation Big O’! Your a cool dude!
I love going to Wilbert's! See a lot of cars I am sure I could revive.....As electricity is a strong deterrent for my success often, glad to see on person can solve these conundrums! I will go back and work on getting the flashing time set on my new VCR! Thanks for the video
Always a good day with a trip to Wilbert’s, we have two in my area and you’re right need something it’s the place to go, unless you needs a door mirror, couldn’t find a good one there.
Ya Know I've been doing electronics since 1980 avionics autopilot, instruments, navigation, calibrated O-scopes, factory electrical and appliances. and You are my go-to Guy. I tell anybody working on automotive to check you out fun, educational, determined and down to earth. won't ever forget the video where the power steering pump was affecting the fuel system, and then the other day on the chevy where the left rear shock was keeping it from starting. Thoroughly enjoy Your channel Keep up the Great Work
Refusal, Eric, you're very good, you're very thorough. You double check yourself and you're honest.
Thank you for being that.
Great video. Always enjoy your trips to Pick N Pull. Haven't seen you stopping at the ice cream shop lately!
The way you efficiently and methodically diagnose issues, even simultaneous issues, is simply amazing. You would make a great instructor if that's something you're interested in.
Yes, an instructor position with full retirement benefits and health insurance.
Great video! Something new to me.! You just never know with today's cars ! Thanks again, very informative.
I love when you take us to Wilberts 😁
Just yesterday I watched L1's video about your ECM programming 🙂