The biggest myth about IAS officers is they're all-powerful
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2019
- The IAS is one of the most competitive jobs in the country. It retains much of its pre-independence aura. IAS has to perform in a completely different environment today. Popular beliefs about IAS are almost bipolar. The biggest myth about the civil service is that it is all-powerful. Politicians call the shots a lot more than before
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Now that he has retired- he has found his voice....
Adei😂😂😂
Very true
true
Voluntarily retired ***
@Pradeep Singh so basically it serves no purpose of serving people at all except of course enjoying allowances and benefits.
Watching this interview urges and tempts me to read his book, and try to understand the genuine nature of the Indian bureaucracy.
India needs civil services reforms, police reform, medical reforms, education reform, social reform, economic reforms, etc.
Is there any of reform which india doesnt need ?😞
We need real independence
The most we need is political reform.
@@kamalkumar7978 we need rules and laws made by indian people not queen victioria's ipc and crpc.
@@shivamsharma-ow3kf no you are wrong
India needs Communism
India needs administrative reforms more than economic reforms.
Can't agree more.
Social Change is like a car. You can't have AI and automated cars on one hand but Governance by primitive, unaccountable, whimsical administration
Couldn't disagree more
Swapnil Kaushik : The basic structure of our administration is the same as what was made by Britishers whose aim was to with few bureaucrats maintain its rule over India. This has no place in democratic country.
India need political Reform rather then any other reform
India needs Political reforms...other reforms will automatically follow...
This was a calming interview. Questions were good and responses were insightful.
13:14
4 siblings in the IAS 😶😶😶😶😶
IMAGINE the plight of their cousins now haha 😅😅😅🙏
Lol
Ye log Sharma ji ke bacche hain kya?
Kannan Gopinathan IAS: ruclips.net/video/JxOpeABIWXo/видео.html
😂😂😂😂😂😂
My grandfather (senior IAS) and all his 5 brothers were IAS. So was my great grandfather .. along with IAS, an engineer. I personally think the job isn’t fun. 😛😛
Thank you sir for sharing your past experience as well as valuable comment of this journey.
I can see the confidence of cracking up UPSC example... still in his body language and makes him look much younger than what age is he in present time....power of self belief I say this....
Any politician can make an IAS feel like handicapped any time. Very very unfortunate.
Truee
What's the point of working so hard and enp up like this
Not only politicians even an advocate can do that
Harsh reality
Lateral entry is definitely important as like Medical service can't be controlled by a person who is not expert in medicine.
Clinicians can't have any experience about framing policies.
@@shinchannohara2924 how will you frame policies when you don't know what the policy requires ?
Jack of all trades & master of none is what defines an IAS officer. They just pass the buck or pushing the files. Very few of them are creative or do leadership roles in their districts. They are just there for the perks and ill gotten wealth.
@@bahubalbaba7886 extremely ignorant take
Ha lateral entry important taaki bade bade businessman top post pr aa jaye aur apne manmani se desh ka niyam badle aur tode
After hard success of getting passed IAS they have work under less educated or uneducated illeterat sometimes criminal background politicians this is really shameful
People in comments are talking like they themselves are the lady justice... Like only we are good honest citizens and everyone else in power is corrupt... Come on..... Any country is as good as it's citizens.... Average out the character of 1.3 billion people and you have got India. If every person starts caring about our nation even a little bit more we can have a huge difference..... India has everything resources, manpower, culture, diversity--- just that we miss one part true love for India-- otherwise we wouldn't be littering everywhere (see the "mother" Ganga), following the rules (as simple as queues) and so on... In simple terms WE ARE THE MOST HYPOCRITIC people on the Earth. AND WE DO NOT HAVE GUTS TO ACCEPT THE REALITY.
Jai Hind.
S Singh well said...
I was preparing for Civils at some point in time and I observed this social hypocricy accompanied by arrogance in our society.. BJP's IT cell has fueled this arrogance to great heights..
@@amitsao009 What if we as a citizen don't accept it and do what our core values teach us. Just focus on ourselves and friends. No one can force their agenda in our brain.
Btw my preparation is still on :)
S Singh in india everyone is master in preaching others while indulging in corrupt practices themselves
So true Sir, so true!
Really liked the interview...the calmness.
Kannan Gopinathan IAS: ruclips.net/video/JxOpeABIWXo/видео.html
Amazing interview. Very important and thoughtful also.
ThePrint .. Thanks a lot for this.☺️
Great to hear his opinions, it's knowledgable for us, thanks ThePrint !
A very good discussion. She asked very elegantly, he answered very elegantly... ❤️
Great interview 👍
It is not only the case that IAS are generalists. Even when you read operational books like "The Goal", after a stint in managing a plant at ground level, the person is moved to a variety of roles like sales, r&d, strategy and so on in which they have low practical knowledge so that they can be prepared for execution roles.
Truly a great interview…articulate, intelligent and open hearted….fantastic, I was stuck to the chair for the entire video…congrats to the interviewer and the interviewee ❤
Really liked the content.
Good interview. Thanks for the post.
I sensed great disappointment in the interviewer's tone, when the guy didn't say anything bad about the Modi Government.
Well, intelligent people say a lot without saying it. But one should be intelligent enough to understand.
@@himanshujuneja4467 hahah keh ke le li .nice one
Samajdar ko ishara Kafi hai
Bole toh no response is also a response.
That’s the one of the good quality of IAS
This lady lacks basic courtesy... Trying to play devils advocate which she is incapable of...
She was perfect. I don't know why are you whining.
@@rodya7773 Exactly.
She was really professional
she did well, i like the way she conducted the interview
Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam... Most respected admirable talented person & President of india said that in his autobiography (wings of fire) "He did a sign on a bill which was slightly unconstitutional under the pressure of Cabinet Ministers.... & they represented the bill in way that Mr Kalam had no option" Hence, It's not that people who do under pressure work is quite easy to do or to not do.... Nd it's most of the ministers are corrupt nd we the people are responsible for making these kind of ministers ( MPs/MLAs)
The interviewer interrupts very rudely in what is otherwise an insightful and interesting discourse on the civil services.
Exactly she seems to be somewhat ordering his response quickly meanwhile he is humble and calm...she won't understand this because humility is rare and it comes with so much hard work and perseverance..
Exactly she seems to be somewhat ordering his response quickly meanwhile he is humble and calm...she won't understand this because humility is rare and it comes with so much hard work and perseverance..
This lady lacks basic courtesy... Trying to play devils advocate which she is incapable of...
Liked his vocabulary and metallic voice
@@rodya7773 Exactly. He is an IAS and his accent sucks. I think he was busy sucking the blood of citizens.
@@ramanansui629 I don't think having an accent that pleases is as important as being capable to take the responsibility.
A very good book handling the issues in a sensitive manner.
It's better to end VIP culture. Equality is absolutely necessary . Laws have to be made reguarding this aspect. VIP culture is really dangerous for our country. Just because you clear an exam no matter how difficult it is you can't trouble others each and every person has their own dignity and they deserve respect .
I always love ❤ the print RUclips channel I wish I could work in these kind of independent journalism thank you for this conversation 🙏❤❤
I found it strange that the former officer's name is not mentioned in the title, or even in the description! It seems like a relevant discussion and given that he's promoting his book, his name should be mentioned
Experience told all about his hurdles he faced in IAS.
The anchor could have driven a more meaningful discussion. Things like 1) what aspirants should know and learn from this book. 2) Reforms should be summarised once not gone back and forth in discussion making it difficult to connect to all the reforms. etc. could have been properly covered.
Man of simplicity🔥
meanwhile one more IAS resigns.
Communists needs to go
In India, Nobody is much powerful than leader doesn't matter however you are..
The video will still look great even if you avoid such reaction shots, 4:41
Atleast one person who is true to himself in supporting IAS officer ...Kannan ...I feel many Beaurocrates should have the same attitude in analysising the opposing wrongs in correct way of doing things ...
Peak Malayali retardation.🤚
Dumb
@@nabeel9020 Jihadi spotted
The reason of his resignation was political...and no administrator should indulge in politics...as he has to serve both sides of table....no matter who is right or wrong.....
Kannan Gopinath behaved like an anarchist
@@rushimetangale656 lol he behaves for the injustice. You may not like it because you are the part of that injustice and benefitting from it but that doesn't makes anyone anarchist. I think you don't know what anarchist please google it then using big words.
It does not matter whether it is 70 years old or not. General administration is administration first. Administration is another face of discipline. The rule of Karya-Karan is timeless, so also the general adminstration. A biased view would be inappropriate. Constitution is supreme.
we need this kind of people in our society
Precise interview 👌👌
Jeez, can you let him finish his entire sentence before cutting him off like one billion times?
Prepare your questions in advance or atleast gauge the mannerisms of respecting the person you're interviewing.
I was in 10 th class, I started preparing for upsc cse exam, now I complete d my graduation, but ichanged my dream , I am thinking that i should not give exam, I should have to start my start up
Sameeeee i also dropped the idea of upsc because of many things I will just do charity and help people
Ask him about largesse towards Sanskriti school. They are powerful enough to get major government resources towards 'their' school.
Different noise when the lady is speaking.
though all government officers have some amount of judicial powers in their hand....but after retirement powers gone and he/she became a normal citizen
politicians have always power in their hand or when they form government....
Only if any of his/her family member is continuing their legacy
good talk.
By and large, civil servants especially IAS cadre become adept at “working the system”, pushing paper, Lear to always be on the right side. As usual, there are exceptions, who had specialised in finance, trade, information technology and the like. There are specialised services such as Indian foreign service, Indian police service, Indian revenue service, Indian trade service, Indian forest service and so on. Perhaps, such specialised services should replace IAS.
True, there are few bad apples everywhere, there is nothing new in that, therefore there is no need to overstretch such a small issue. At the end of the day, best people should be at the helm of the government for making policies. There has to be a balance between the number of specialists and generalists in the service. While specialists provide expertise in a domain, generalists provide a wide range of perspectives with a comprehensive understanding of the grassroots level problems. Therefore, experts are needed to provide deep insights in a particular domain, and generalists are needed to ensure that all domains work in cohesion with each other with an underlying overarching policy for the betterment of the nation. As Winston Churchill once famously said, "Experts must be on tap, and not on top."
Add indian engineering services asli this services is highly technical
Upsc jobs are too much over-rated in country like India
Because India is a backward country and anything above average is celebrated like anything.
Stranglehold of IAS must go away. Non IAS services like IPS, IRS, IES should be given equal opportunities to lead also.
True
@ThePrint If you're taking an Interview of a senior bureaucrat you should atleast write his name on the title or atleast in the description. Thanks
He is a senior bureaucrat, That is all the audience needs to know. If His name was there instead of This Title, which is adequate my opinion, it wouldn't have gotten so many views and you wouldn't have commented here. He is not talking here as an individual. He is here as a Former bureaucrat. Hence your request is unnecessary.
Back in the days....handshake was legal
post interview
Brilliant people can specialize in more than one thing 😊
Best video watched about bureaucracy
Why not the ministers give Exams, Cause for them IAS,IPS are selected so they will be sharing same Intel. as The most of others
Then whats the guarantee that these so called educated ias and ips will not be corrupt?
because politicians has to pass
#democratic mandate
as we know democratic mandate we people should aware when we are voting!
thank you.
@@ASK__AnnimalleShivaKumar exactly, this is what i learnt last year in 9th standard polity, these ppl dont even know d of democracy.
democracy hai islie...
most neta anpdh hote isilie to bureaucrats bante hai help krne k lie unhe...
@@abhisheksahu3202 exactly. A politician is an ELECTED person. They are only there because the people willed it. They have more power over a politician than an IAS. You can't even chose who will be an IAS. People just think that just because the selection levels are low and training is a lot it is a God given position. IAS are peons on a Powerhigh. They have all the power and hardly any accountability.
A really honest officer
4 siblings in IAS ..how the dinner table looks like ????
Meeting
there have been 4 brothers in IAS all retiring as chief secretaries of different states.
There have been 3 sisters in IAS in Haryana, all their son in law and daughters-in-law are in civil services, all the three sisters retired as Chief Secretaries of Haryana at different times.
Full of black money
@@mamatananda2935 Kannan Gopinathan IAS: ruclips.net/video/JxOpeABIWXo/видео.html
@@Abhilash9145 thank you for sharing this.
Refreshing interview. Resonate with the views The job is most coveted because it gives HUGE benefits and opportunities to build a fortune. The IAS selection and power structure has to change. In the past the ICS predecessor of IAS were partners with British colonials in looting. Now the colonials are replaced by politicians and IAS replaced ICS. Hence nothing has changed except only now.
Read more Sir. It's easy to make a convenient opinion but difficult to have a nuanced perspective.
@@vaibhavsingh1546 Sorry but first hand experiences beat ALL that you can read. Spent decades in this planet. I do not blame anyone but can understand human limitations and weaknesses.
@@curiouscynic4357 True, experience is important, but it doesn't beat all. While experience teaches us important lessons, it also limits our perspective as we develop deep-rooted convictions which do not allow us to think beyond the comfortable world view which we create for ourselves.
I do not assume that I can change your point of view, also, I'm not saying that there is nothing wrong with the status quo. My simple submission to you is that your point of view oversimplifies the reality and sounds more like a conspiracy theory and hence, it does not reflect the reality. Therefore - read more. It will help you to develop a more nuanced and realistic perspective, that is if you're interested. Otherwise, just blurt out whatever you've in mind without even spending considerable time on understanding any issue. Anyway, that is what most of the people do, especially, in my generation. You look quite aged in your DP, so I thought I could have a sensible constructive dialogue with you.
Happy thinking!
@@vaibhavsingh1546 Plese send links to some balanced views. I do read a fair amount. I may be a bit slow compared to you but I am not daft and do enjoy dispassionate approach.
@@curiouscynic4357 Sir, as I said earlier, we do need to change the status quo. But - "we do not cut our hand when our finger is injured, we just heal the finger." We have come a long way since independence, considerably in a short time compared to many counterparts, and we still have a long way to go. This, we can achieve, only together.
Few articles from which you could start:
www.thebetterindia.com/163334/sardar-vallabhbhai-patel-ias-news/
www.livemint.com/Opinion/5JlHBwPVwgQRULHVoMQUGO/Views--Is-the-IAS-a-steel-frame-or-a-steel-cage.html
indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/upsc-generalist-vs-specialist-ias-recruitment-4859491/
www.thehindu.com/books/books-reviews/the-steel-frame-a-history-of-the-ias-review-power-to-make-a-difference/article26876983.ece
4IAS in siblings
Lateral entry is the best thing for our country. In most developed countries including the US qualified professionals after a successful run in the private sector or education have a chance to serve in the government at a high level. This way they bring in far more fresh ideas into the government than a typical IAS babu. IAS/IPS/IRS are the most corrupt services in India. Bribes and inefficiencies are common in these services.
Lol...don't generalise. You are talking as if you have worked in many departments. Even if a qualified person comes he willsy struggle a lot with the politicians and the existing govt machinery... Because IAS IPS cannot implement anything by themselves... SP cannot maintain law and order without cooperation of constables and officers under him .
@@vishnukumarkr3499We have too much corruption in government. Many people become IAS/IPS/IRS to serve the people. They openly say "Power and fame motivate them."
In most developed countries civil services and lateral entry coexist. It will keep our babus on their toes and improve many departments. Administrative service reforms are a must.
Why is the video description so restrictive?? No mention of the guest and no mention of the book though placed front and center!
Commendable job sir
What is the name of the host?
Will this book be available in Marathi language? means marathi translated book
don't they think lateral entry can be highly motivated and biased.
4 minutes in and I can't watch this due to the constant interruptions by the interviewer. Excellent job!
Civil service personnel need periodic appraisal and fitness to practise their position. Administration need to be updated for the changing society
Is this model introduced in colonial era to treat the citizens of country as slaves and still continues....
It all depends upon who anybody is and what species one is...
@Kartikey Mishra he is talking about education model is all following orders .
Kannan Gopinathan IAS: ruclips.net/video/JxOpeABIWXo/видео.html
This is good
Most of the people I knew who were preparing for the IAS didn't care much about power to change the society, they just cared about having power and misusing it. And that is all most of the newcomers have become. That zeal to bring change with the power you have is completly gone. Also, IAS officers get hefty packages from Corporate now, so most of the high performers who are tired of Politicians quit, only the ones who are Yes man and want to misuse their power stay.
Bhai reservation wale honge
Bhai lgta h tera kata h upsc me...... Angoor khatte🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
That's very true. My girlfriend is a new IAS officer (2018 batch) and she's noticing some truly disturbing things in the bureaucracy.
Chal jhoote.
@@angaatkeeda7971 who is that😅
good one.
what made u dislike(who did) the video?
she asked good questions, but could have used better articulation
In my view IAS officers have been a big let down in times of Lockdown....there have been more cases of misuse of power given to them in Epidemic act.Their police counterparts have fared much better.
What does this line mean: "Politicians call the shot a lot more than before"
Calling the shots means 'taking the decision'
The reality ! Babus threaten to transfer the officers. Gujarat government did something similar by transferring Mr Vijay Nehra because appearantly he was doing a splendid job . Bunch of fucking illiterate idiots are ruling the country unfortunately. India deserves much better than BJP and Congress.
@@kishu222 yeah there is apparently more danger and difficulty in living a honest straightforward life than being a corrupt idiot.
Sidha sidha smjha deta hu
Politicians phle to gaand marte hi the aur abhi aur jyada maar rahe hai
@@shubhamb4506 😜😜
Ultimately, when one realises that God alone is all powerful it is too late for a lot of people.
Lol.
😳
We need spirituality in IAS to contain desires and passions of individuals and work towards nation building
lol seriously ?
@@amarnathkrishnan6382 Yup by spirituality I don't mean religious bigotry, read Gandhi idea on political spiritualism and power to be exercised towards greater good guided by morality, truth and non violence.
Also a man who has conquered all his senses has conquered the world, spiritualism provides a guide in opposition to mindless consumerism
What about general citizens? They are 1.3 billion...
Semblance to Plato's ideas
We need spirituality in everything,not only IAS,a human life attains perfection only when they realise that serving others is the highest goal of human life
Then what is the criteria for a non performing politician?? How they can be removed once a year??
Please help me to become an IAS officer
What is the name of an anchor?!!
Steel frame of India has been rusted for quite a time now. People joining for prestige and power not for people of India.
Civil reforms are must in country.
What is his name?
What are the age limit for SC caste to give IAS exam.
I don't know what is going on every retire bureaucrats used to criticize the bureaucratic system irony is this the same system seems good to them until they enjoy their service and after their retirement they used to write book and hence all the system becomes corrupt, inefficient ,etc.
Becoz in service duration they have no power to criticize govt that's why they talked about it after retirement.
EVERY ONE IS NOT LIKE IAS GOPINATH WHO RECENTLY QUIT HIS SERVICE FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
It's same if you work in a private company then you can't go against the management of company, in the same way when you work in government you can't go against the government.
There are service rules that prevent government servants from speaking about their opinions. They are supposed to be the steel frame that holds the country up silently.
@@parvezkhan-ft9gu if they don't like to work then they can resign and do some other things, they just want to enjoy the power and prestigious life and after retirement they will start open their mouth. Love your work if u don't then justy bloody resign it might open a door for another aspirant
@@newsjunkieish No they can't. They worked hard for it and they have families to feed. Only rich people can just quit their jobs
Beautiful interviewer
It is unfortunate that IAS officers can never get promotion unless the follow uneducated politician who are local goons
see what a uneducated ignorant person you are. no knowledge of facts and passing judgement on IAS. promotion is time bound by constitutional authority. they can be transferred easily by states and corrupt officers side with politicians to get good transfers. you don't have the iq or integrity to even double check facts before passing judgement and point finger to IAS. get a mirror .
Dogs cant take control of the jungle lol,,politicians are not even literate but they are smartest ,,,probably you aren't literate on how street works
@@arunavasarkar3600 true most people are like this
@@vamshikrishnareddy8988 lol
Ias first 3 promotion are fixed... No one can stop you from becoming dm✌️ after that cm will choose your position
👌
Why these officers don't fight together
The print.. 😊thanks à lot for this
Very correct. Everything has become filthy and criminal in our nation.
I am a upsc faculty here.
If ias officers are more intelligent then common man then why dont they use there brain to make greater india. Like why dont they go for scientist to create more innovative or new invention.
Even a common man can do the job of ias officer. Get the ias job is different but anyone can serve it.
But scientist cant be serve .
Scientists are not paid well in India.
No one wants to live a decent life after spending so Many years of hardwork.
@@RoseGautam-sw6ly if they want only money then they should start doing business 😃
@@tassangvlogs1991 point is not that they what 'only money'.
But no one wants a penny too.
Ofc one will expect a good amount if he is doing something all the time. Even if it's his passion or not.
I meant that scientists are underpaid in India. They deserve more.
How was the last question by the interviewer - a lighter note.. to conclude the talk? 🤔
what does he mean by civil servants in the state and that in the centre ? Every civil servant is alloted to a particular state cadre . Does he mean the difference is between IAS and PCS ?'
Some.1. In union terr it's under centre 2. At lower stage they are in state cadre . When they get senior some get to go for central deputation ie, work under central gov .
No, ias officers (along with other civil servants) occupy high positions in Central govt after being deputed there
Ok
Recommendations of Bengal memorandum have to be looked and discussed
It's actually powerful than majority of the population out there.
But in which job you have freedom you have to obey your boss command ...always..in IAS also
Owning businesses
Its complicated and obsolete.....should be refreshed.....
What’s she so upset about? Tried to lead him to speak against the current govt but he’s much smarter than that.
Dude watch Arnab Goswami's Noise(Debate). This is how journalism works. Questioning the performance of a Public Servant(PM) is liable.
@@venomfu007 is arnab goswami the yardstick of comparison for journalism in your mind? She wasn't questioning him, she was saying trying to lead him into bad mouthing the govt. to suit the agenda of her chanel.
@@kanhaiya179 Is that what I said? I specifically mentioned Arnab Goswami's Noise not journalism.
You have to complete you sentence with "..." . That is the yardstick I believe in.
PM is just an everyday Tom, Dick and Harry elected by us to make policy on our money.
We have every right to question him even if he rarely answers them.
@@venomfu007 but my comment was on her double standard questions to a retired officer. Why've you brought in the PM and Arnab and all that into the picture? Looks like you've agendas too.
@@kanhaiya179 And my answer is asking questions to the current government or any government is not any agenda but her job. It's called journalism.
PM is not a godly position outside of questioning but an elected public servant.
If you are used to propaganda then listen to Arnab Goswami.
The interviewer behaviour is very rude and she is not at allowing him to speak. This is not how you deal with eminent personalities.
😔