Not just IAS,good guy are not staying in other sectors of current industries as well. Main issue here lies with difference in ideology. Good guy who don't agree with systems decision and their ideology are targeted at larger figure.
A significant percentage of IAS probationers admit that the prestige & power associated with this premier service was a motivating factor for them. And this is understandable in the Indian cultural context where status, power & prestige needs(esteem needs) have always been very high. If that be the case, it would only be normal for this lot of youngsters to satisfy those needs as they move ahead in their careers. To expect them to imbibe the public services ethos and become genuine servants of the people would be naivity. The average age of the IAS probationer is about 27-28 yrs. By this age, their value systems have been formed and their personality development process nearly complete. Training at LBSNAA can impart knowledge and skills. But their is little it can do to bring about any significant shift in the attitudinal makeup of the probationers. Corrupting Indian values have permeated the IAS, as they have in the other services as well. The 'Indianisation' of these services in that sense, is now complete.
Great views ..any ethics paper in civil services exams cannot bring ethics in a civil servant .integrity and character in some of them are unwaivered ..
IAS officers must be paid salaries equivalent to what managers are paid in corporates, this will not only shun away corruption but it will also be useful to attract the best talent in the country
Interviewing this man is a zero sum game. He contradicts what he says in the very next and by the end you're left with a feeling of helplessness and apathy. I know he's a diplomat and hence he has to service both sides of the argument but really, if you're making a point then for gods sake, make it
@@piyushmishra4694 these are just excuses bro. If we need to build right system make it accountable. Culture of strict accountability has to be enforced. Lok Pal was a good system, it should have been implemented. Nobody is above anybody.
@@brahminmosam625 thy are left with no option....what will u do when u strt receiving death threats from ur so called govt,chalo apna toh chodo ...bt will u compromise fr ur family?no....its just tht be in tht place nd judge it,we start taunting or trolling them who are just a medium of govt ,bt never questn our so called "govt"....my friend is as IFS officer,nd many a times she wants to do many things bt stopped by our own peoples nd ideologies of our govt🙂...hope u will also take into consideratn this point
@@riya-dg3kx hello sir you are talking about recent developments ! On tge date if independance the ICS( PRESENTLY IAS) OFFICERS ARE ONLY HIGHER CASTES! SIBCE INDEPENDANCE THE POLITICAL ADMINISTRATION GUIDED BY THESE PEOPLE!THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRUPTION IN ALL DRPARTNENTS!RARELY WE HAD GOOD OFFICERS! YOU CAN NAME THEM 95 PERCENT ONLY FRAUDSTERS! DID AT ANY TIME IN THE PAST PWD DID GOOD CONSTRUCTION! MOTOR VEHICLES DEPARTMENT USDUED LICENCE TI HEAVY VEHICLES WITHOUT MOBEY! DID REGISTRATION DEPT DID REGISTRATION WITHOUT RECEIVING MONEY!DID ANY REVENUE OFFICIAL DID ISDUE A CERTIFICATE WITHOUT GETTING MINEY! DID CONTRACTS IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WERE ALLOCATED WITHOUT BRIBE! DID EVER POLICE WORK HONESTLY ! THE RULES WERE BENT FOR BRIBE!INSPITE IF GOID SALARIES ALL DEPARTMENTS CORRUPT IN THE PAST ; IN THE PRESENT ABD IN TGE FEATURE! GOOD OFFICERS ARE VERY RARE!
@@brahminmosam625 higher caste....2016 topper tina dabi she is SC,2018 topper kanishk kataria is SC...its better nt to take sensible topic"caste"....i m nt talking abt after independence blah blah blah....i m just saying tht be in tht place nd judge it,i m a banker nd i know all prerequisites of bank ,so i can tell where the banking system is lacking,anyway u seems to be very frustrating....so why dont u cover up this coveted exam,nd be a honest benchmark 🤓🤓...all the best,bye
A thought provoking interview.I wish Karan had included question to elicit answers from Saxsena as to the situations prevailing in other countries particularly like Singapore and how global best practices could be incorporated in the civil services system.One of the main causes of degeneration is obviously to do with our political system and the quality of leadership that it throws up in the field of PUBLIC service.I recall reading an article in the ECONOMIST that democracy as a system has inherent weaknesses and suffer from what it calls adverse selection.It shuns capable ,honest and industrious and simple persons and attracts venal.Thus there can be no hope that civil servants can escape from the present predicament. One solution could be bring about structural changes in the present governance system itself ,such as have smaller states and have smaller governments with not more than seven or eight ministers and directly elected Governors at state level.Further prescribe qualifications to be eligible to stand as candidates in elections.Only tried and tested persons and who display strong energy to solve problems should be in the fray.A rule that only persons who have worked as IAS or Defence services or held senior Management positions in Top 200 company's or World class organization , would be a panacea for our country.
Mr Thapper never surrender front of government, otherwise he would have best puppet of government. Good job Really you deserve a lot but unfortunately our society still growing.
Like the topic on Islam and Muslim.... It's the Muslims who has to come out and be open like others. The blind following without criticality is always danger. One must have a chance to put a question before following or believing in some thing. It's the core thing..
I've never seen a interview in such a perfect communication, i am a fan of the interviewer sir, and also agree 100% with the views of the ias officer sir in this interview?
Wonderful interview sir you both were awesome we youngsters need guidance of seniors and role models as you not the leaders with mear promises to change our lives. Thank you so much sir please take interview of such persons ( from my sides the person who can only reshape the future of India). Again thank you sir continue with your hard work Hope to see you soon with another such an awesome interview.
The new generation of civil servants does not have the guts to confront politicians as the get intimidated by their dominating (thuggish) temperament. The interview process gives more significance to a bookish (sometimes frail) than to a more practical person with better personality traits. This is not my opinion but my father's who is currently a civil servant in All India Services.
Would Mr.Saxsena like to comment " during olden days they talked, who is (IAS ) corrupt among the lot? Now the orientation has changed and they look for an honest one. "
IAS has let down the country. The author writes this in the book but tones down in the present interview. The reality is that if anyone meets an IAS officer his work is unlikely to be done unless he shows some “connection” with a politician or bureaucrat. IAS now stands for “I AM SORRY”. And changes will not come from the views of retired IAS officers, but from the feedback of real stakeholders, i e the public.
Gentleman is saying IAS is still very good while admitting 30% officers are corrupt. Imagine 30% of employees in an organisation being corrupt. The organisation will collapse within no time. Here they are still going strong and called "still very good". No wonder India is where it is.
Imagine a country where 43% of your parliamentarians are facing serious criminal charges. Your parliament has become a den of thieves happily elected by chamchagiris . The country is headed for a fall.
Absolutely right! Heydays of India in all sphere hve gone.. be it IAS, Service sector job, medical practiniers.. India is at her downhill journey.. education has gone down, teachers have not much faculty.. quite worrisome.. only one character thrive is of is jugad, and faking at at level..
No matter what these people say, the scope and relevance of IAS remain as high as ever b4. It's just that each one has to continually rediscover theme!
But keep in mind the fact that not only IAS but also any other services like IPS, IRS, etc. are conforming based jobs.....There is never transformation or reformation in the system.....Everything is under the control of judiciary laws & constitutional constraints......So, over the years in service, automatically so called the spark of changing the nation & society is converting into the adaptability in the ongoing system though there are many flaws & loopholes in it.....
Time bound promotion , no control over subordinates, no incentive for performance , no real penalty for under performance , penalty for risk taking and taking initiative, no penalty for taking no action and no decision making, transferred constantly to irrelevant departments , ..etc...it's a miracle that ias are still able to do something.
Sir, Please provide Hindi comments. Also now many people are watching independent media. Yes Sir, we support the journalism you all independent people with a netral stand do. Please upload all english video with Hindi Sub heading too. Thank you and Best luck.👍
My friend was with NITI Aayog in Jharkhand for which he had to assist IAS in remotest districts. He saw young IAS all driven, pepped up eager to bring change vs older IAS who didn't care and had become a part of the system, all saab attitude from poor locals. And Punjab IAS don't do well as locals are richer and don't see IAS as saab, they earn more than IAS and hence less power gap
Introduce hiring and firing, performance based hikes and promotions. Ministers who appoint, transfer or fire an officer should have to justify their decision on paper
Mnn changa TO katthoti main ganga yah kahavvvat ttttCharitarth hoti hain Her Field par person ko mnn ❤️Vachn❤️ karm se ujjval hona Padtega huaa to Ganga pass hi hain Kukarmiee hain TO Piramid hi Ultaa chlegaa Not positive attitude
Aren't we too corrupt, bribing to get our work done? Aren't the corporates corrupt, bribing to get clearances for various things? We give, they take. That's the basic funda. Behavioral change is needed both among civilians and govt. employees, along with stringent vigilance laws.
With all regards and respect to The Sh N C Saksena I want to add that objectivity ,honesty and worst of all calibre has been adversely affected in last two decades.And one additional factor is largely ignored. Since 1979 when Kothari Commission changed the examination pattern we are getting unbecoming people selected.In other words 80% of selected officers, I am sure, would never have been selected in earlier examination system. Actually the skewed entrance is providing potentially Mediocres.And this is one of the ignored reason of their under performance.
I wish he did some research on how "RESERVATIONS" also impacted Bureaucracy. How the delay is getting things done by the bureaucrats also impacted the country and its economy.
Then he will again ask fr water😁😂😂😂nd hang up in the middle,nd strt accusing him of being anti nationalist,nd our so educated people will admire him fr like no reason nd "aaj tak" channel will show him a star☀....bhai bht problem ho jaegi,😂😂😂😂
It was ICS pre-independence and there were problems then that lead to to the formation of IAS. Structures do get degraded and need improvements and IAS as a structure needs change
Almost everything Mr Saxena tells about the civil services and governance is the contrary in Kerala. A remarkable vindication of the Kerala model of governance and culture.
I feel they have done their job as good as wanted to be.Many are and were every bossy and corrupt. They feel they are so superior, they have been neglecting their job for all these years.
Who will ensure the transparency of our political executives? Albeit, some Babus are corrupt but certain politicians are taking a "Holier than thou " attitude. This is the irony.
Corruption is not jus about money . It's very vast term but we limited it to bribe only. Sometime being silent when you need to yell loudly is also corruption
The Government, the Civil Services and the People know where the problems lie but no one is willing to take steps to fix them. Reason enough for India to be counted among the third world countries and not reach the standards set by the Scandinavian countries and Japan
My friends I am not scholar of Islam but I have some very very close Muslim friends, in fact I have lived with them at their homes!! My opinions is that Sufism has constructed bridges between Islam and other religions (especially Hinduism) moreover it has propagated and substantiated Islam in India. Thousands of examples are there ( whole medieval period is full of them Sufi-Bhakti etc.) Condemning Sufism by orthodox is not new, demonising/demolishing their sacred-places, killing Sufi-singers in Pakistan etc. I just want those orthodox-supporters to ask themselves whether they recite Namaz five times a day, do they truly allocate a part of their income for Zakat or they just habitually love to attend Zakir Naik. You will certainly notice that condemning arts, music, technical development, death-threats or issuing Fatvas are very much endorsed, and enjoyed by these Salafi/Wahabi elements. I do believe Prophet Muhammad was a great personage who never supported violence in this manner.🙏🏻
I do agree with you my brother but as far as I know Prophets or Rasool never instructed the Sunnis/Wahhabis/Talibanis to plunder Shiite-mosques or to kill Sufi-singers/musicians or to break the Buddha statues. I am a Hindu and not a fan of Sufism but as we study history, Sufism has fostered harmony and enforced Islam in the hearts of other people.
When the book writer said that there's a "very little" moral decline in IAS, Thapar touched his temple and it seemed to me that he thought the same thing I thought. "What bullshit!"
@@Instantalignment and we elect people with serious criminal charges against them. The level of thought, care for honesty, integrity of politicians by the people is thrown out of the window. Thats how our country ends up third world because we continue to elect him/her as long as he/she is from our caste, creed, religion, ideology!! Not on performance
You are wrong Look at his recod He was a leftist from the 60s to 1991 and changed tack when he found that he and the system had failed. He is a smart survivor.
both of them are unaware of the actual reasons; and, discussing things in a very casual way. society is not yet matured enough to listen, comprehend and accept the truth and reality behind such issues like corruption. those very few, who know the actual reason, may never blame politics, politician or government.
Reason behind failing of IAS/IPS services lies in there training curriculum. .. in both cases they have been trained to remain away from society which was requirement during era and remained continued in independent India. ..
Just think why we r still following laws implmented by british to rule its colony afrer the country itself got independence caliming to be biggest democracy only just that huge number of population are involving in voting system.......
Mr. Thapar PLEASE keep doing Interviews.. Your Presence and Skill of questioning a Topic and taking interviews is immensely Missed and Valued!
But many may oppose your views. Ye hindustan hai, land of Gurujis. Everybody is an expert here.
Not just IAS,good guy are not staying in other sectors of current industries as well. Main issue here lies with difference in ideology. Good guy who don't agree with systems decision and their ideology are targeted at larger figure.
Oh. So your definition of good guy is one who supports your ideology? Nice.
Sachin Suryavanshi , you are almost spot on.
How many have stood with Ashok Khemka?
IAS Association is a joke.
Or with Harsh Mander
or with Sanjiv Bhatt
Logical questions , why no one stood with That IAS
ias are like pack of hyena
A significant percentage of IAS probationers admit that the prestige & power associated with this premier service was a motivating factor for them. And this is understandable in the Indian cultural context where status, power & prestige needs(esteem needs) have always been very high. If that be the case, it would only be normal for this lot of youngsters to satisfy those needs as they move ahead in their careers. To expect them to imbibe the public services ethos and become genuine servants of the people would be naivity.
The average age of the IAS probationer is about 27-28 yrs. By this age, their value systems have been formed and their personality development process nearly complete. Training at LBSNAA can impart knowledge and skills. But their is little it can do to bring about any significant shift in the attitudinal makeup of the probationers.
Corrupting Indian values have permeated the IAS, as they have in the other services as well. The 'Indianisation' of these services in that sense, is now complete.
Great views ..any ethics paper in civil services exams cannot bring ethics in a civil servant .integrity and character in some of them are unwaivered ..
IAS officers must be paid salaries equivalent to what managers are paid in corporates, this will not only shun away corruption but it will also be useful to attract the best talent in the country
Interviewing this man is a zero sum game. He contradicts what he says in the very next and by the end you're left with a feeling of helplessness and apathy. I know he's a diplomat and hence he has to service both sides of the argument but really, if you're making a point then for gods sake, make it
When politicians and judiciary is corrupt and our society respects quick money, then why to blame only one section of executive.
varun jalan u got it right.
True af
When IAS is counted as most superior then they shouldn't be counted as such even.
@@piyushmishra4694 these are just excuses bro. If we need to build right system make it accountable. Culture of strict accountability has to be enforced. Lok Pal was a good system, it should have been implemented. Nobody is above anybody.
Excellent Conversation 👍
the great healthy conversation which needed most in these times.
Karan sir .... pls.do not vanish .... there should be at least few 'men standing' who can fearlessly take-on the power honchos
What a stunning and eye opening interview!! Thank you both SIRs!🙏
It is also corrupt senior IAS officers which forces or encourages younger IAS people to become corrupt over time.
Oh yeah that inspiration help them to Be Corrupt by bargaining their conscious!
Rarely goid off7icers come to light! Mostly they dance to the tune of politicians and also corrupt!
@@brahminmosam625 thy are left with no option....what will u do when u strt receiving death threats from ur so called govt,chalo apna toh chodo ...bt will u compromise fr ur family?no....its just tht be in tht place nd judge it,we start taunting or trolling them who are just a medium of govt ,bt never questn our so called "govt"....my friend is as IFS officer,nd many a times she wants to do many things bt stopped by our own peoples nd ideologies of our govt🙂...hope u will also take into consideratn this point
@@riya-dg3kx hello sir you are talking about recent developments ! On tge date if independance the ICS( PRESENTLY IAS) OFFICERS ARE ONLY HIGHER CASTES! SIBCE INDEPENDANCE THE POLITICAL ADMINISTRATION GUIDED BY THESE PEOPLE!THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRUPTION IN ALL DRPARTNENTS!RARELY WE HAD GOOD OFFICERS! YOU CAN NAME THEM 95 PERCENT ONLY FRAUDSTERS! DID AT ANY TIME IN THE PAST PWD DID GOOD CONSTRUCTION! MOTOR VEHICLES DEPARTMENT USDUED LICENCE TI HEAVY VEHICLES WITHOUT MOBEY! DID REGISTRATION DEPT DID REGISTRATION WITHOUT RECEIVING MONEY!DID ANY REVENUE OFFICIAL DID ISDUE A CERTIFICATE WITHOUT GETTING MINEY! DID CONTRACTS IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WERE ALLOCATED WITHOUT BRIBE! DID EVER POLICE WORK HONESTLY ! THE RULES WERE BENT FOR BRIBE!INSPITE IF GOID SALARIES ALL DEPARTMENTS CORRUPT IN THE PAST ; IN THE PRESENT ABD IN TGE FEATURE! GOOD OFFICERS ARE VERY RARE!
@@brahminmosam625 higher caste....2016 topper tina dabi she is SC,2018 topper kanishk kataria is SC...its better nt to take sensible topic"caste"....i m nt talking abt after independence blah blah blah....i m just saying tht be in tht place nd judge it,i m a banker nd i know all prerequisites of bank ,so i can tell where the banking system is lacking,anyway u seems to be very frustrating....so why dont u cover up this coveted exam,nd be a honest benchmark 🤓🤓...all the best,bye
Mr Saxena was DD at the LBSNAA at Mussoorie when I was a probationer. What a brilliant, outstanding officer.
Omg. Impressed by both' s eloquence and in depth analysis.
A thought provoking interview.I wish Karan had included question to elicit answers from Saxsena as to the situations prevailing in other countries particularly like Singapore and how global best practices could be incorporated in the civil services system.One of the main causes of degeneration is obviously to do with our political system and the quality of leadership that it throws up in the field of PUBLIC service.I recall reading an article in the ECONOMIST that democracy as a system has inherent weaknesses and suffer from what it calls adverse selection.It shuns capable ,honest and industrious and simple persons and attracts venal.Thus there can be no hope that civil servants can escape from the present predicament. One solution could be bring about structural changes in the present governance system itself ,such as have smaller states and have smaller governments with not more than seven or eight ministers and directly elected Governors at state level.Further prescribe qualifications to be eligible to stand as candidates in elections.Only tried and tested persons and who display strong energy to solve problems should be in the fray.A rule that only persons who have worked as IAS or Defence services or held senior Management positions in Top 200 company's or World class organization , would be a panacea for our country.
That is the mind that is needed to become a great IAS officer.
Thank you sir.
What a jourlist thapar sir
Enjoyed the interview, liked Mr Saxena's point on need of honesty, critical thinking and inquisitiveness for the countries top most bureaucrats.
It's not jus IAS . It's really takes everything to be honest in government system be it peon or IAS.
Great interview. Loved watching, hearing to the wonderful questions and answers.
Mr Thapper never surrender front of government, otherwise he would have best puppet of government.
Good job
Really you deserve a lot but unfortunately our society still growing.
He surrenders after congress he is clown of congress
Yes. People like u should grow.
Not now but he was a puppet
A kind of interview seldom seen in today’s world.
Keep up the great work sir
We love Karan thapar interviews. Awesome.
Like the topic on Islam and Muslim....
It's the Muslims who has to come out and be open like others. The blind following without criticality is always danger. One must have a chance to put a question before following or believing in some thing. It's the core thing..
education and health are some of the MAJOR FREAKING AREAS!!
It was a real pleasure watching this interview, very valuable insight.
Mr Saxena sounds very logical in last half n appreciable
It's good to see Mr Thapar back in action, doing what he does quite well!
I've never seen a interview in such a perfect communication, i am a fan of the interviewer sir, and also agree 100% with the views of the ias officer sir in this interview?
What the mind-blowing topics are taking out by the wire in the view!
Thank you the wire
I just love karan thapar ❤♥♥♥
Wonderful interview sir you both were awesome we youngsters need guidance of seniors and role models as you not the leaders with mear promises to change our lives. Thank you so much sir please take interview of such persons ( from my sides the person who can only reshape the future of India). Again thank you sir continue with your hard work
Hope to see you soon with another such an awesome interview.
*17:00** HARSH REALITY!!*
Haha nice wordplay!
Atal ka bhi khulasa ho gaya bhai
Really enlighting interview. Thank you the wire and Mr.Thapar
The new generation of civil servants does not have the guts to confront politicians as the get intimidated by their dominating (thuggish) temperament. The interview process gives more significance to a bookish (sometimes frail) than to a more practical person with better personality traits.
This is not my opinion but my father's who is currently a civil servant in All India Services.
Would Mr.Saxsena like to comment " during olden days they talked, who is (IAS ) corrupt among the lot? Now the orientation has changed and they look for an honest one. "
IAS has let down the country. The author writes this in the book but tones down in the present interview. The reality is that if anyone meets an IAS officer his work is unlikely to be done unless he shows some “connection” with a politician or bureaucrat. IAS now stands for “I AM SORRY”. And changes will not come from the views of retired IAS officers, but from the feedback of real stakeholders, i e the public.
Never see any honest IAS officers in my entire life till today...
This idiot must be the real trump coz he don't even know that IAS is a part of Indian govt. Not USA
When someone is aspirant they will say I want to do this and that for the people and when they become IAS they think like they are God.
Excellent interview Karan!!
I salute bureaucrats like him and Mr Ashok .
Love and respect.
Both are poles apart If you admire Khemka you cannot like Saxena. Khemka is clean and neutral
Gentleman is saying IAS is still very good while admitting 30% officers are corrupt. Imagine 30% of employees in an organisation being corrupt. The organisation will collapse within no time. Here they are still going strong and called "still very good". No wonder India is where it is.
Imagine a country where 43% of your parliamentarians are facing serious criminal charges. Your parliament has become a den of thieves happily elected by chamchagiris . The country is headed for a fall.
Absolutely right! Heydays of India in all sphere hve gone.. be it IAS, Service sector job, medical practiniers.. India is at her downhill journey.. education has gone down, teachers have not much faculty.. quite worrisome.. only one character thrive is of is jugad, and faking at at level..
No matter what these people say, the scope and relevance of IAS remain as high as ever b4. It's just that each one has to continually rediscover theme!
A.small town bastard like you would like it
@@shrisub881
Very civilized.
But keep in mind the fact that not only IAS but also any other services like IPS, IRS, etc. are conforming based jobs.....There is never transformation or reformation in the system.....Everything is under the control of judiciary laws & constitutional constraints......So, over the years in service, automatically so called the spark of changing the nation & society is converting into the adaptability in the ongoing system though there are many flaws & loopholes in it.....
Retired officers can be used for their services as consultants to use their experiences with out any financial or political greedyness.
Good to see you again sir..🙏🙏
Time bound promotion , no control over subordinates, no incentive for performance , no real penalty for under performance , penalty for risk taking and taking initiative, no penalty for taking no action and no decision making, transferred constantly to irrelevant departments , ..etc...it's a miracle that ias are still able to do something.
How rich this conversation is!
Sir, Please provide Hindi comments. Also now many people are watching independent media. Yes Sir, we support the journalism you all independent people with a netral stand do. Please upload all english video with Hindi Sub heading too. Thank you and Best luck.👍
My friend was with NITI Aayog in Jharkhand for which he had to assist IAS in remotest districts. He saw young IAS all driven, pepped up eager to bring change vs older IAS who didn't care and had become a part of the system, all saab attitude from poor locals. And Punjab IAS don't do well as locals are richer and don't see IAS as saab, they earn more than IAS and hence less power gap
Introduce hiring and firing, performance based hikes and promotions. Ministers who appoint, transfer or fire an officer should have to justify their decision on paper
Comeon man, we all know the changes made by rules will not be implemented by finding loopholes in the rules.
Impretion Formation is good
Not Self SatisffyAnd Ego Centric personality
Mnn changa TO katthoti main ganga yah kahavvvat ttttCharitarth hoti hain Her Field par person ko mnn ❤️Vachn❤️ karm se ujjval hona Padtega huaa to Ganga pass hi hain Kukarmiee hain TO Piramid hi Ultaa chlegaa Not positive attitude
Jai Bharat Jai Sanatan
Very valuable point at 35.00 for everyone
Why judiciary is failing,why political leaders are failing,why corporates are failing
Good questions.
Aren't we too corrupt, bribing to get our work done? Aren't the corporates corrupt, bribing to get clearances for various things? We give, they take. That's the basic funda. Behavioral change is needed both among civilians and govt. employees, along with stringent vigilance laws.
With all regards and respect to The Sh N C Saksena
I want to add that objectivity ,honesty and worst of all calibre has been adversely affected in last two decades.And one additional factor is largely ignored.
Since 1979 when Kothari Commission changed the examination pattern we are getting unbecoming people selected.In other words 80% of selected officers, I am sure, would never have been selected in earlier examination system.
Actually the skewed entrance is providing potentially Mediocres.And this is one of the ignored reason of their under performance.
Can you please expand on it....what was the earlier exam pattern and how it was better
Good sensible and learning interview for juniors.
Oh what a conversation it is! Thanks The Wire.
Worth listening the discussion. A professional approach of interview in my view
I wish he did some research on how "RESERVATIONS" also impacted Bureaucracy. How the delay is getting things done by the bureaucrats also impacted the country and its economy.
Poda punda
He's back..
"The world has enough for everyone's needs, but not enough for everyone's greed. "- Gandhi
His statement meant for him also
Little correction: The correct one is: "The world has enough for everyone's need but not sufficient for one persons greed"
Karan sir please interview pm once again 😂😂😂
Then he will again ask fr water😁😂😂😂nd hang up in the middle,nd strt accusing him of being anti nationalist,nd our so educated people will admire him fr like no reason nd "aaj tak" channel will show him a star☀....bhai bht problem ho jaegi,😂😂😂😂
quite interesting 😀😀
Dosti Bani rhe bass
He will again say bas bht ho gya'mai chahta hu karan dosti bani rhe'😂🤣🤣
See thapars interview with subramanian swamy.
Please take an interview on “Police Reforms”. Just need of the hour.
The second half of the interview is more interesting
Hats off to you Sir 🫡
It was ICS pre-independence and there were problems then that lead to to the formation of IAS. Structures do get degraded and need improvements and IAS as a structure needs change
Almost everything Mr Saxena tells about the civil services and governance is the contrary in Kerala. A remarkable vindication of the Kerala model of governance and culture.
IAS are intelligent but show intelligence in how to escape work and squeeze money from stakeholders. I agree not all are corrupt but most of them are.
It is another finest from Karan. Very few could pull through such interviews.
One of best interview of retd IAS officer.
*Out of the College & With 0 (ZERO), Industrial Experience or Specialization is the Problem & it FAILED*
The best comment......
The frequent transfers motivated by political power are a real issue in the service
Most Rispectfull persons Very good afternoon sir🙏🏿🙏🏿
An IAS officer with vast experience.
I feel they have done their job as good as wanted to be.Many are and were every bossy and corrupt. They feel they are so superior, they have been neglecting their job for all these years.
I have subscribe to wire today.. I love your interviews sir.
Very balanced views about system in County.
He is right. Fight always for better system result to do nothing.
Who will ensure the transparency of our political executives?
Albeit, some Babus are corrupt but certain politicians are taking a "Holier than thou " attitude. This is the irony.
थापर साहब का जलवा है।
Mr. Saxena is denying his own statements given in his own book. Perhaps he is afraid of backlash.
Corruption is not jus about money . It's very vast term but we limited it to bribe only. Sometime being silent when you need to yell loudly is also corruption
🙏🙏
Feel sorry for the IAS. Really a very very sad story...
The Government, the Civil Services and the People know where the problems lie but no one is willing to take steps to fix them. Reason enough for India to be counted among the third world countries and not reach the standards set by the Scandinavian countries and Japan
We need inspiration from Japan! They are truly amazing
Saxena sir so humble.
Karn, I missed you so much... Where have you been? Why not uploading upfront video on HTN
Great attitude sir
He was mostly true about muslims in India and the world
My friends I am not scholar of Islam but I have some very very close Muslim friends, in fact I have lived with them at their homes!! My opinions is that Sufism has constructed bridges between Islam and other religions (especially Hinduism) moreover it has propagated and substantiated Islam in India. Thousands of examples are there ( whole medieval period is full of them Sufi-Bhakti etc.) Condemning Sufism by orthodox is not new, demonising/demolishing their sacred-places, killing Sufi-singers in Pakistan etc. I just want those orthodox-supporters to ask themselves whether they recite Namaz five times a day, do they truly allocate a part of their income for Zakat or they just habitually love to attend Zakir Naik. You will certainly notice that condemning arts, music, technical development, death-threats or issuing Fatvas are very much endorsed, and enjoyed by these Salafi/Wahabi elements. I do believe Prophet Muhammad was a great personage who never supported violence in this manner.🙏🏻
I do agree with you my brother but as far as I know Prophets or Rasool never instructed the Sunnis/Wahhabis/Talibanis to plunder Shiite-mosques or to kill Sufi-singers/musicians or to break the Buddha statues. I am a Hindu and not a fan of Sufism but as we study history, Sufism has fostered harmony and enforced Islam in the hearts of other people.
When the book writer said that there's a "very little" moral decline in IAS, Thapar touched his temple and it seemed to me that he thought the same thing I thought. "What bullshit!"
Good analysis.
Karanji.keep it up.more & more
Just remove the power of politicians to transfer IAS 4 times a year and see.
I think even to be a politician there should be recruiting body in the country like an IAS services has
In fact, that is already in vogue. i.e. Politicians are recruited by the mandate of people.
@@Instantalignment and we elect people with serious criminal charges against them.
The level of thought, care for honesty, integrity of politicians by the people is thrown out of the window.
Thats how our country ends up third world because we continue to elect him/her as long as he/she is from our caste, creed, religion, ideology!! Not on performance
19:10 Shows that Dr. Manmohan Singh was always a smart economist , but didn't have the spine to stand up against congress' populism
Politics is the art of possible.
You are wrong Look at his recod He was a leftist from the 60s to 1991 and changed tack when he found that he and the system had failed.
He is a smart survivor.
both of them are unaware of the actual reasons; and, discussing things in a very casual way. society is not yet matured enough to listen, comprehend and accept the truth and reality behind such issues like corruption. those very few, who know the actual reason, may never blame politics, politician or government.
Reason behind failing of IAS/IPS services lies in there training curriculum. .. in both cases they have been trained to remain away from society which was requirement during era and remained continued in independent India. ..
IAS Kannan Gopinathan resigned from pressure THIS is reson country have not given that much power to IAS
Just think why we r still following laws implmented by british to rule its colony afrer the country itself got independence caliming to be biggest democracy only just that huge number of population are involving in voting system.......
People's right of expression is no more left in Dadra and Nagar Haveli.. People live in fear.
As a country where we are going for knows
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Kannan resigned to join CPim politics. Looser.
@@kmkaks2.085 did he share his plan with you? Just curious to know
We need this kind of interviews. Yogiji may clash with 20: 60:20 formula revealed at the end of interview
I disagree with the author that IAS in Gujarat are less corrupt
Sometime being not corrupt and being sincere and not able to execute duty makes things look same I guess!
I have no idea of Gujarat IAS officers
So do i
@@musikmadmusik I have worked in Gujarat Government for 36 years from Primary Health Centre to Secretariat as Medical professionals
Only Bihar Jharkhand and Chattisgarh IAS officers are loyal and honest elsewhere they are corrupt..