Why Super Saiyan Broly Was Not at Full Power Against Gohan Beast
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2024
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After Dragon Ball Super Manga Chapter 103 dropped we saw Gohan Beast help Broly transform into his Controlled Super Saiyan form. But is that really the extent of the legendary saiyans power?
Is Ultra Ego Vegeta stronger than Ultra Instinct Goku?
Is Super Saiyan Broly stronger than Black Frieza?
Is MUI Goku stronger than Beerus?
Is Orange Piccolo Stronger Than Goku? 
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Z Broly or DBS Broly?
Who do you prefer?
DBS Broly
Dbs broly
Z Broly is way cooler.
Btw LSSJ Super Broly is stronger than Beerus,cope
Both are always loved by fans
Dbs broly is so much cooler looking, stronger and has more personality and better back story than DBZ broly
This really makes everyone appreciate how powerful Gogeta blue is!
To assume that Gohan pushed him to master his Full Power/LSSJ is stupid? How could he master that form instantly when it caused him so much trouble. He’s only tapped into super saiyan.
Chances are that LSSJ isn’t an ikari stack, it’s a seperate transformation that’s exclusive to broly.
So much negativity towards Gohan lmao why can't we all just appreciate and enjoy the fact that we're getting more DB content
Yeah ngl I hate gohan , but I do like he’s getting some major spotlight and we’re getting more content that we can enjoy.
Broly the strongest gohan power noting to laugh at tho
Broly is getting more disrespect from Toyota than goku
@@GuyVickI hate Goku.
Cause he is objectively a GARBAGE character in Super
@@GuyVickUltimate Beast Gohan and Legendary Super Saiyan Broly vs Goku and Vegeta from the TOP 5? 🤔
Super saiyan Broly is not like the others because he is the legendary super saiyan, he is a mutant like Kale and Freezer, they are MUTANTS, Gohan is a unique hybrid.
Legendary don’t exist in dbs
i would dare to say gohan is a mutant hybrid, probably got the mutant part from chichi.
@@---tr8fx people speculate gohan is part demon🤷🏾♂️💀
Kale is literally called a legendary super saiyan in the manga @@mauricejohnson2351
Compared to goten and trunks gohan does appear more mutant like. Or maybe better put he’s a super elite and the other two are just elite. Idk
Bro just yapped for 10 minutes straight saying the same things we’ve all known
Yap yap yap yap yap hours later... does this guy ever shut up???😅
It's obvious not Gohan and not Broly was at Full Power. They was calm. Their power is based on rage.
Based on rage but controlled that’s the point 😂
@@Chrisemochu Bro maybe in new saga but for now they only started first steps on this way. They are far from full control.
Gohan did go all out on Goku once though
Imagine if both are on berserker and full control. Maybe Goku and Vegeta has no chance anymore.
Love when Toriyama keeps Broly with the og transformation we love, Super Saiyan.. Hope next arc they don't screw up Broly, likes turning him into SSG/Blue (that transformation is pointless and kills the unique of Broly) , keep Broly with his Super Saiyan/Oozaru way .. Or maybe we want to see Broly in a Super Saiyan form with his Ikari form eyes.. That's will be interesting
I completely agree
When I see people commenting on how amazing it would be if Broly got access to god ki/ Super Saiyan God/ Blue, etc I just cringe, it would just fuck up the character
Let him stay faithful to his roots and keep improving upon what makes him unique (the Oozaru/ Ikari/ Legendary Super Saiyan stuff)
Yeah giving Broly the current God forms would take away from his identity as a fighter, I want to see Broly fight like a sadistic warrior Since all the characters are maturing up would be cool to see Broly be the guy that tortures his opponents even after controlling his rage.
Nah give broly super saiyan 4 he deserves it
@@ACertainMannot a broly thing to do. The only way he would “torture” his enemies would be if they hurt someone he cares about. That’s less of a sadistic trait and more of a heroic one. Broly has a good heart but his fathers mindset and living conditions as a child made him the beast he is today.
All the characters have unique ultimate forms now so they'll either give him a unique one or just keep the green haired form which is better I think.
Nah bro Revolushane really claiming Goku went all out against Gohan, then pulls up and says Broly wasn't at full power when he was getting literally molly whopped by Beast Gohan 😭
Gohan manages to throw super saiyan Broly once and someone that is considered a molly whoop 🤦♂️ 🤡
@@shadowslayer9988 when they stop they fight you can actually see Gohan is still in control, plus he was also throwing Broly around. It's clear he's more powerful
Alot of broly haters are saying that this transformation is broly full power but it isn't
Broly is straight up in his Frieza Arc while everybody else is at endgame, but his ass is *still* stronger than they are.
@tek512 broly is the hulk his true power is base on rage so he is grey hulk now strong but very restrained
then go check the official source
@@sc-1918The official source confirms it isn't. What
😂 .... I've been saying this ever since the Gohan Beast Heroes movie came out & RevoluShane T.O.P #2 video . From then up to now Broly is the most Powerful Mortal in DBS period . Nobody else was compared to PROBABLY being STRONGER than Beerus other than ONLY BROLY . Not Black Frieza & Certainly NOT Gohan Beast . If or when Broly goes / turns Legendary SuperSaiyan ... he Solo's Everyone period
I think of Gohan as a "once in a generation" level of talent. Gifted saiyan taken to the extreme via incredible rage boosts.
I think of Broly as a "once in many generations" level of talent. Legendary Saiyans only come around once in 1000 years or so.
So you'll have like 40 generations between Legendary Saiyans. Meaning Broly is about 40x more rare as a talent than Gohan, who is already a 1 in several billion talent by himself.
Y’all been making excuses for these folks ever since chapter 103 came out. Gohan is the strongest point blank and the period! Just like Broly has another form hidden I’m almost positive gohan does as well!
hes obviously not
The man had pupils, no Ikari stack, and didn't really bulk up at all. It's kinda obvious.
Broly doesn't have the green hair form in the manga , the yellow one is his maximum power currently and gohan no diff him
I agree. He does not have control over his massive power. When he does, no one will stand a chance, not even black frieza will be bowing at broly's feet.
Exactly 💯 💯 💯
But We All Know That! The whole point of him fighting Gohan was to help him get to this point! Gohan even tells us this after going near full power and explaining to Goku.
They both can get stronger.
Much stronger.
A lot stronger!
How do people cope so hard and be okay with it? Just chill and enjoy the anime😂😂💯
Frl
The movie and manga are separate. Broly never had green hair in the manga and even in the movie they added it last minute because of meddling. His hair was always supposed to be yellow with no pupils. He now has control over it.
You can't use Z broly to understand Super Broly
Imo kale would be the better option to use
I wonder what role brolys ikari power plays and will play into his forms.
I like how the three pure saiyans mirror vegetas original crew. Little vegeta. A son of bardock. And a big fella.
It depends, since Broly has Ikari form, technically if his unique panth is Ikari then SSJ, then full power SSJ.
His SSJ would be Ikari (x10) + the (x50) from SSJ, which would make him an astounding x500 times base, more than a SSJ 3, as just a normal SSJ 1. Which explains the massive power differences
Multipliers was dead after Frieza saga. In DBS not exist.
When broly started fighting gohan he didn't have ikari eyes he when from normal state to regular ssj
There’s no reason to think SSJ isn’t still 50x multiplier tho
It wouldnt matter really, since he can access the ozzaru's power in base form. Initially when he transformed he had no pupils for a second before controlling it.@@alsimmonshellspawn6021
Well ya, but if Broly access's ozzaru's power, Ikari, in base form, (Like in the movie) He was Ikari naturally first, then went SSJ Ontop of that, not power-down then use it. Meaning he's gained the multiplier first, of a x10 to base, then went SSJ ontop of that, so his base is now Ozaru level, then he goes x50 that, so he's literally over 200x more than a SSJ3. While SSJ1@@randomlunatic2608
I am wondering what special forms broly might attain in the future other than the base super saiyans
I figured his LSSJ in super was mixing Ikari with SSJ. Like he needs ikari to go legendary as it's the one thing special to him
Lemo getting killed is quite the sensible prediction
I can see Lemo getting being a goner, and Broly going berserk, and unlocking super saiyan 2
Love this for Broly but I want to talk about how Black Frieza has Void Abilities he’s capable of nullifying any Chi. Vegeta has a better chance because his training on Yardrat.
Frieza is really scary he’s beyond any fighters that leads to this point.
I think when he first meet Gods Chi and channel what it was in those blast to gain resistance to destruction. (My hint is from when he laid his eyes on the Zeno’s)
I am taking either one of two things from what they showed us in chapter 103
Either Broly got a MASSIVE NERF and that was his fpssj form
Or it wasn’t and he still has yet to use that form in the manga which would be a MASSIVE BUFF.
I’m hoping it’s a massive buff but idk I have a feeling that I am wrong
A chapter full of powerful fighters: Beerusさま、Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten and Trunks. Pan kicking grandpa Goku was also a great family moment. Red Ribbon army quiting it's scheme's and moving on to pharmacy work, Beerusさま still seems to be up there in power given his lack of concern of the other characters growing strength. Great chapter thank you 鳥山明せんせいおつかれさま
The single most important thing to keep in mind is that you have to ignore EVERYTHING from the Broly movies.
And only consider the manga.
The manga is canon *to itself…*
So if you want to compare a current Manga Broly to ANYTHING…
Compare it to all that we have seen previously of him in the *Manga…*
THAT’S when you are being objective…
You can’t use the Movie at all…
As it’s a COMPLETELY different continuity!
Only Toyotaro’s work matters here when trying to compare Chapter 103’s Broly to anything else..
Please *do.*
Remember when the anime was being made first and the manga was secondary? Y'all manga readers are weird with this caveat.
Dawg… no. While dragon ball super manga is generally a different continuity, the events of dbs broly are the exact same. This is stated on purpose, which is why they don’t bother with a broly adaptation but bother with a superhero adaptation.
@@Goku-fn3qd nope, the broly movie only gives you a bases on what happened, but taking the whole movie as canon to the manga is just wrong, i mean last i checked broly was only shown in a super state and nothing more even when gogeta showed up. Goku says 'somehow they won' which defenitly dosent align with the broly movie where gogeta absolutely destroyed broly. Manga and anime continuities are different, Fpssj as of now has no evidence of existing, hell not even ikari has any proof of existing
@@Goku-fn3qd Absolute NONSENSE… They are *NOT* the same!
@@XRaiden1 Thank you. You are correct.
It’s kind of funny how Broly has 2 versions of Super Saiyan. His normal SSJ with pupils, then the “Legendary” form without pupils. DBZ Broly has this and I’m assuming if DBS Broly gets angry enough or rages out he’ll also turn into his no pupil berserk form.
I don’t even have to watch the vid to know it just gohan slander
Most people think gohan has the most potential but to me broly has the most potential. Imagine if broly had god ki! He would be op!
Could the green hair ss of super broly be of ikari since ikari has a green yellow aura if broly master that state I hope they do ss4 that one way to bring ss4 I to cannon or tarble since he doesn't have access to god ki and he's cannon
I’m gutted we won’t get Toryiamas idea of broly we finally got his own design and story from him as the original was the animation teams idea of what broly could be and we only got a bit of what toryiamas version of broly 😢
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Saiyans have a unique ability to learn from watching others. So all he had to do was watch Gohan
edit: Also I dont get why people keep saying "legendary super saiyan" when its identified as just "full power super saiyan" either the z broly fans are using it as a cope mechanism or people are just THAT stubborn about not calling it legendary
The DBS Broly was also able to perform this feat on the DBS Broly Movie 2
The green hair Broly isn’t a toriyama creation. It’s a toei creation. Toriyama just wanted the blonde hair Broly with no eyes and ikari. Toei asked to give him green hair. Toyotaro is just keeping it close to toriyama’s original idea. The blonde Broly is the true Broly.
I believe Broly's strongest form was a glimpse of what we saw at the end of the Broly movie when he was wished back home. He had the golden eyes in his LSS form. The controlled SS we saw fight Beast Gohan wasn't his full power at all.
Base Broly = Regular SS
Oozaru Broly = SS Blue
Controlled SS Broly > SS Blue but less than Beast Gohan
Full Power/Legendary SS Broly greater or equal to MUI and Beast Gohan
and what I believe will be his final form that was seen at the end of the Broly movie... Controlled LSS Oozaru Broly >Beast Gohan, MUI Goku, Blue Gogeta.
Broly's ability to adapt in the fight and progressively grow stronger at such a fast rate makes him the strongest saiyan imo.
Obviously it's Gohan and Broly for raw power and durability.
Goku And Vegeta for skills and hax
In the manga Broly and Kale only have one ssj form
Broly god forms about to go crazy the true yomoshi reincarnation
People till this day underestimated Gogeta Blue and Broly and they still are, but it is obvious that Gogeta is the strongest non angel being we have seen, and Broly being in the same league as the second strongest. This chapter shows that MUI Goku und UE Vegeta just caught up with SSJ Broly and Gogeta when it comes to power, and full power Broly pushed Gogeta to SSB, which means Broly still has a power deep within him which is almost as much of a jump in power as from SSJ to SSB. Goku didnt exaggerate when he said that he might be able to beat Beerus, Gogeta Blue is just that much stronger than Beerus, even Vegito from the Goku Black arc was supposed to have surpassed Beerus according to Shin in the manga. Broly probably wasnt included in the wish in the granolah saga because he couldnt control, neither have access to his full power, which explains why full power broly would still beat both Granolah and Gas, and would be the only one who is on the same league as Beerus and Frieza. Gogeta Blue from Broly movie >> Beerus >/= Frieza = Full power Broly >>>> Goku, Vegeta, SSJ Broly and Gohan
here we go again
Whats brolys hair color in this form?
Blonde.
I always believed LSSJ broly was the strongest, just like how gohan was called the strongest broly was also in promotions for super hero called the strongest.
Broly should be more of an important character than gohan. He deserves it bro getting shown to train more than gohan ever did in super. That bs he been training secretly don’t count. As a vegeta fan it’s only fair to say in terms of who needs to be focused on in future arcs vegeta>broly development> z fighters> other universes>. Dbs could literally have so much story to tell by having arcs of others universes, having vegeta visit the universe 6 saiyans, broly develops into a better character overall and fighter, and the other z fighters getting spotlight.
The comics state that Gohan has been training since the Goku Black arc. He even asked Trunks to keep it a secret from the others.
By saying Gohan's training off screen doesn't count is laughable because what the fuck did Frieza do off screen because we sure ass hell didn't watch him train... I swear you Gohan haters are annoying as all hell. Gohan was battling galactic mutants at the age of 5-6 i.e name saga, he was dead by 5, he rocked Goku's older brother raditz, no matter how you see it Gohan has always been there fighting with the best of them and at the tender age of 11-12 he surpassed his father and Vegeta in strength and power. Put some damn respect on Gohan's name, damn.. y'all act like Gohan is yamcha or some shit
@@jacobbutler169 shi tien should be one of the strongest z fighters and have his own dojo but somehow weak asf. You not understanding that in dbz ssj2 was considered one of the strongest forms and gohan was the first and every already caught up. But I’m super bro was struggling to even turn into ssj and vegeta and goku tapped into divine power and been training and fighting ever since. Gohan simply training secretly and somehow prolly surpassing them is the weakest shi ever. Goku literally tapped into a power most of the gods of destruction couldn’t even reach while vegeta used gods of destruction power and now they have gohan catching up to them as if goku and vegeta was never that strong. All I’m saying they could’ve written him better since super started and instead of him becoming powerful out of nowhere should’ve made him have a bigger role in the beginning. Him surpassing goku/vegeta early in dbz is way different than him surpassing goku/vegeta as of late in super
Broly does not have Ikari or Full Power Super Saiyan (Green Super Saiyan for noobs) in manga.
Gohan and broly not at full power.
I don't think Broly will adapt like that when he controls his form. Since when we are using information from Kale look at her when she is out of control she continually got stronger stronger and needed to realise her ki but once she gained control, she didn't have that problem.
Honestly I just like to think the form Broly achieved here wasn’t the same Super Sayian form he achieved on Earth against Goku and Vegeta. In the movie we saw Broly go Super Sayian on top of his Ikari form which could have resulted in a new form entirely which we can just call C-Type Super Sayian. And we even see what a possible control version of it looks like in the same movie when Broly almost died to Gogeta’s Kamehameha and his pupils returned to looking like Ikari. Basically Broly has a whole new set of Super Sayian transformations separated from his regular ones, this being Super Sayian, C-Type Super Sayian, and Full Power Super Sayian with the green hair. And for all we know with Ikari having the power of the great ape this could be Super’s version of Super Sayian 4.
Gohan WOULD not kill a BASE Broly that mollywhopped two Saiyan Gods in Base Form with zero control of his power.
His whole thing besides his pure power, is his ability to quickly adapt and pick up on shit, and applying it immediately.
If i would be broly fan ,i would not want broly to be unstoppable force bcz if he is like that there will be no serious threat to our heroes and then writers will try to put broly out of story and i want to see him in action.😊
i believe legendary/green hair super saiyan is different from original super saiyan
Guyz we all know that Gohan has more potential that any of z fighters
I said this on your last video, this was Super Saiyan Broly bass form. The same form he reached and achieved when his father died after Frieza killed him. This is not his full powered shirt off super Hulk like form with greens tint to it.
Yes , it is only Broly's BASED form & Broly hasn't even hit his Legendary Super Saiyan form yet which is ( the key phrase ) PROBABLY STRONGER THAN BEERUS .... NOBODY ELSE has been said in the Anime or Manga that they're PROBABLY Stronger than Beerus . Only Broly was said to be Probably stronger than Beerus . Not Black Frieza or Gohan Beast , None of them ONLY BROLY has been said PROBABLY Stronger than Beerus . Broly >>>>> Black Frieza >> Gohan Beast
@@PaulWalker-uo2nh I don't know about stronger than Black Frieza, but you're right if he's allowed to keep getting stronger in his legendary form like Gogeta didn't let him who knows.
I just want Kale and Broly to meet
Canonically, Super Broly is Full power Broly, Toei animation edit green filter by their own word
If broly gets any form of god ki or learns has a mastery of his power like jiren he smoking the multiverse except for the angels and Zeno
All Broly has to do is go Super Saiyan 2 and it's over 💯 if he's fighting like this in just SSJ just imagine him at SSJ2 I don't want Broly to learn God power he's already stronger than it.I like him having his own forms.
getting swung around with wide eyes in surprise, great way to fight.
Wait until Goku take his mui to another level. Vegeta mentioned something ppl skip out on when Mui goku vs gohan beast. “ Its not that Gohan weaker or Goku faster at dodging. Its ULTRA INSTANT doing its job dodging automatically.” Hence why Goku was keeping up. But imagine when Goku can use Ultra intant willingly in BASE FORM! Gohan is gonna be in trouble😂😂😂
Gohan's not at full power either.... No super Saiyan power combined, no god ki combined, blue nor red.... Gohan potential is infinite too. It's been stated they are about equals in potential.
ssj1 current vegeta punk on base broly who kept up with ultimate gohan who is around gamma 1 and gamma 1 is at least above moro arc blue levels
Why gohan wasn't full power either since gohan is literally controlling his berserk state
Still cant believe broly became a z fighter. What a world am i right? 🤯
Doesn't matter . Still no way he's taking beast gohan. Impossible 😅
I think Lemo will die Broly will snap go into his Legendary super Saiyan form and control it
its actually over if broly gets ssb
Does broly have his tail still or am i tripping?🤔 An i still feel if they had their tails itll make them stronger till it falls off (stop growing) naturally like in universe 6.
No he doesn’t.
@@earlvaughan-williams3835 o ok
I dont tihnk he goes true-full power, (Legendary) Until he fights Gogeta, when they break the dimension, his hair actually changes from Golden to Green.
Broly a beast but there levels gohan by far stronger then broly stop the bs 😂
I also believe Broly's full power was against Gogeta. Kale's controlled Super Saiyan wasn't as strong as her Legendary Form, and yes it's literally refered to in the manga as legendary by Cabba. Anyway, Kale in her Berserk form was stronger than Super Saiyan Blue in both the anime and manga, she even destroyed Golden Frieza in the manga, but her controlled form was struggling against Super Saiyan God Goku. Idk how much weight this holds, but in the Movie Broly was stated as probably stronger than Beerus, but this form is clearly weaker than Beerus since Gohan could handle him
It's literally confirmed by Piccolo as soon as Kale got control that she was stronger.
Exactly broly is still the strongest. Their gonna have to nerf him because he's way too strong
Unnecessarily complicated
Brolly is about to get god ki bro
There setting up broly to be the G.O.D the fish said something like that himself and gohan would say no to G.O.D broly fit the description and vegeta going to learn UI
Of course this isnt his full powered form. Its only ssj.
i think that this controlled super saiyan is broly controlling his super saiyan + wrathful power. lssj is a separate thing as far as i’m concerned!
Everybody keeps talking power but what's power if you still lose goku is HIM why can't gohan can't just have his moment I want to see what they can do against future enemies and the way it looks they about to build a new saiyan race
Ngl blue hair broly was👌
Only MUI can defeat another MUI. Broly lssj is obsolete.
So he controlled his beseek form like kale it’s stronger than what it was
Everyone just hates Gohan. Let the man have the win. Trying to get this man more trained up. It's clear that Gohan had high aptitude for training less and developing more. Take the Cell Saga Gohan and Goku went into the time chamber once, and Vegeta and Trunks went twice. Out of those four, Gohan matured in power more. Cell self destructs and comes back and kills Trunks with a death beam. Vegeta snaps, and Cell knocks him back only to fire the same move, aiming to kill him too. Only for Gohan to jump in the way and lose an arm. If Gohan blocked, he'd still have two arms. It shows that clearly Gohan's potential is that of slightly Frieza's. I feel like the people that mock Gohan skipped "Z" and ball and went straight to super.🤷🏾
Uhh.. about that..
Broly ssj and lssj are not the same thing like everyone is forgetting the power of yellow vs GREEN! two different things and universal massive gaps and that Broly ssj is not legendary form its the green aura and power and the extra bulk is LSSJ
He wasnt tbh the difference is his fp ssj is highlightbyellow where as his regular ssj form is the regular yellow color
Id agree with the power scaling but I will say super sayian broly that beast Gohan fought is the same super sayian broly tht SSB goku and vegeta passed off to frieza during the broly movie , broly just has control over it . Not the broly Gogeta fought .
Some Dragon ball fan need to increase their base IQ !
Stop comparing Z broly to super broly and lastly broly has not increase his power since the broly movie he's only working on control
It is and will always be
- Base broly
- Super sayian broly
- Legendary broly
As I wise person once said broly power is unscalable B/c
He was created/written to rival Goku and the others at every level
Legendary Super Saiyan Broly really is stronger than Beerus then.
And Broly movie Gogeta can beat Beerus cause Whis said they can work together which is a reference to when he said they could beat him like that.
And Toyotaro had said that Broly was beyond Perfected UI Goku
Broly simply cant use Lssj currently.
If he does HE is the strongest mortal(excluding fusions).
COPE
As for Black Frieza i think he has another form or simply hadnt finished training and simply took a break to attack them.
Frieza isnt gonna finish till he is above Beerus
I mean Goku saw Beerus at full power in the tournament of power for the gods and he said Broly was stronger than Beerus and Gogeta blue beat him so yeah Gogeta blue beats him. It's not a major shock though vegito blue final Kamehameha was rivaling Beerus power back in the black arc.
Toyotaro never said Broly was beyond Perfected UI, in fact we have statements and now feats showing otherwise
Green haired LSSJ for Broly doesn't exist in the manga unlike the movie
In the movie Broly is called the LSSj or a mutant at the start of the movie, it was never called SSj Full Power. I don't know if it was ever called that in the manga, but the only times I've heard it called that was by fan's and I find that these fan's hate the new Broly as the LSSj. The fact is that new Broly is the canonized version of the OG LSSj, so its pretty much safe to say that this new Broly is the LSSj. Like Kala, she was the first canonized version of OG Broly, but she is just from Universe 6 where they call it the Legendary Saiyan. He is the LSSj, and we see him it that classic huge form with green hair that comes with it. Its just a shame that they didn't have him and SSjB Gogeta's fight be more epic. I mean Broly finally went LSSj which force Gogeta to go SSjB, and sure they had a bit of a moment before they re-shattered reality. And I get Gogeta knew to go full out, but I wish that the fight would have been a bit more. Really showing how dangerous that LSSj form was from the OG Broly. Either way, I think that if Broly was to gain a new form it should be Golden Oozaru and SSj4. Just green t green-ish please.
Dbs is a hollow shell of what DBZ was. We watch because we loved Dbz but in reality this show fucking sucks now 🥴
Dragon ball super always sucked and I mean all of it that's including the movies
So basically Broly AGAIN is STILL THE STRONGEST MORTAL DBS Characters like I said since Gohan Beast start & Black Frieza was said not near Beerus's Power Level , CAUSE BROLY IS EQUAL OR PROBABLY STRONGER THAN BEERUS . Where have you guys heard that before .... Ohh it's the Broly MOVIE . NOBODY IS PROBABLY STRONGER than Beerus other than Broly . Broly IS STILL the ONLY Character who is PROBABLY Stronger than Beerus ... NO BODY ELSE = PERIOD . Just like I stated in RevoluShane previous videos since his T.O.P #2 / = BROLY ( LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN >>>> Black Frieza >> Gohan Beast >> M.U.I Goku = UE Vegeta =/< Orange Piccolo >>>>>>>>>>> Full Powered AWEAKEN Jiren
no
@@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 ..... Yessssssss
@@PaulWalker-uo2nh no
@@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 ..... Definitely Yessssssss
@@PaulWalker-uo2nh definitely no
So you can accept Broly holding back but not Goku? I think im seeing favoritism.
If he where in his Akari form or his Berserk form, Gohan would've been DONE... He took on Gogeta... If they waited to finish Broly off( LIKE VAGETO ALWAYS DOES AND TIMES OUT HIS FUSION) HE would've surpassed Gogeta and vegito .... IN A FEW MINUTES... Come on let's just tallie up all Vagito and Gogeta fights in everything and Gogeta always STANDS TALL!!! FUSION DANCE= BEST @RevoluShane DBS Broly
Gohan two shot Cell Max, a threat STRONGER than Full Power Broly. Beast is a rage form and can never truly go all out unless he's pushed to madness. Broly, even with green hair would be done for against a Gohan that isn't playing around and we ALL KNOW IT.
Vegeta* vegito*
Hm? Gogeta has been powercrept to hell and back. Vegeta vs Granola in the OFFICIAL DB website recap of events was stated to be unprecedented in destructive power this by default puts it above Gogeta Blue Vs FPSSJ Broly.
needless to mention the amount of powerups since then that leaves this fight in the dust.
@@AmirisphereBro thinks trash max was stronger than Broly 💀💀💀
@@mando7323 Toriyama said so.
Ever thought of doing a power scale tier list for the DBS manga?
Yes there will be one next month
I don’t believe gohan was trying at all in this and I don’t believe he will be the strongest in that chapter he seems to be the weakest there maybe one day he will be a contender but he is no where near as strong
Also people need to understand even in the broly movie they never wanted to kill him and they never went full out on him because they want him on their side because he is their race
Also to anyone wondering I’m talking about broly
Ultimate gohan can beat broly. Beast gohan is only playing with super saiyan broly, don't forget he just fight UI Goku. He just turn to beast because broly ask and Gohan still can fight vegeta.
All I know is, Black Freeza still solos everyone
LSSJ Broly is stated stronger than Beerus and Goku saw Beerus go all out in manga
I would disagree as the only feat we got from black Frieza is Black Frieza knocking Goku out of TUI which Goku was still conscious and Vegeta out of UE which Vegeta was still conscious. The only reason why the fight didn't continue was because Frieza wasn't trying to fight Goku and Vegeta he was just showing them his power.
Now we know that Goku was using his Best transformation or technique against Gohan beast silver haired UI>True UI stated by whis and Beerus. It's also stated on the official web site that Goku and Gohan were fighting at full power. They weren't trying to kill each other as it was a sparing match. Now Goku had gotten stronger since he was taken down by Frieza. Now with that the question remains has Frieza gotten stronger or does Frieza believe he is so strong that no matter how much the others train he can kill them. Now that currently is the question.
Moving on from that what we do know as a narrative stand point if we go by viz, jump and what is stated on the movie itself.
Broly is the strongest man Frieza is a man so is Gohan,Goku and Vegeta.
So if we are going by that then it'll be Broly>Black Frieza
Now if we are going by Toriyama's statement which is Gohan is actually the strongest or so it is said but it takes his revered teacher piccolo to bring it out of him.
We also have the statement from Beerus that if Goku surpassed him he'd consider him a god of destruction candidate. Now following that Whis asked Beerus if Gohan would be a suitable god of destruction candidate. And Beerus said no not because Gohan was close to his power it surpassed him as this was never confirmed but because Gohan has Morals and would not use Destruction.
Anyway if we are just going by Toriyama's statement then it's
Gohan>Frieza
Finally we have whis statement from the ending of the granola arc when Goku asked whis if Frieza was the strongest which whis said perhaps or the strongest could have awakened somewhere else.
Which with that it could be alluding to Gohan or broly.
As of right now the narrative is that Frieza is currently the strongest that isn't a god . but still I doubt black Frieza solos everyone
@@chrishook1815dude stop trying to deny that black Frieza was far above them. If he wanted to kill them, he could have done it quite easily just as he did with gas. Apart from that, you have the official statements that said black Frieza is closer to a destroyer’s power than goku and Vegeta which makes sense because his potential is far greater. Frieza has learned not to be complacent so there’s no doubt that he would continue to train even after one shotting them.
Broly DESTROYS Black Frieza for another 1hr without stopping ( Easily )
@@PaulWalker-uo2nh not even close. I admit broly’s potential is great and if he trained even half the time Frieza did, then he would assure a victory but right now it’s a no.
Listen Gohan is Lssj mixed with Human, Toriyama designed the original Lssj/ssj with whitish hair an red eyes. Thats why Whis said hes specially gifted like Broly is only his Human side helps him control it. They dont have to come out an call Broly the Lssj bcuz he has all the same stuff as Z Broly except he has an even cooler form with Ikari. I love how Toriyama did this!! U7 has 2 Lssjs!!
oozaro is inferior to super saiyan so i would like him to control his berserk green state and i think that would put him above gohan but not on the level of goku and vegeta
Gohan is probably stronger than goku
Gohan was just chilling he could have easily beat broly in Ultimate
This makes no sense. Gohan is not stronger than broly. Their nurfing the extent of brolys power. It took a super saiyen blue to defeat broly. GTFOOH!!!