@@PeachTimeX I think up air is still better. But Nair might be close second. The only problem nair has is that it Didn't do much damage like fair or up air. It also didn't combo at 0 if I'm not mistaken.
@@riqua27 you actually can combo at 0 % with it but not on every character, and it's frame perfect if I'm not mistaken. Also, Nair is maybe a "better" combo starter in very low - low % than Fair because Fair do not eject high enough to begin a big combo with.
@@fefe7905Thanks for the heads up!! I just almost never see it happens. So I assume that is the case. I also watch LY video on Corrin guide. And he said Corrin didn't really have a strong 0% combo game. And most of the time SHADIC usually fish for Fair to pin at 0. I guess because it's more consistent damage. Up air is the only aerial I see that actually could make a big combo at 0. I mean he 0 to death Yaura after landing one up air!!!
I definitely think that Steve should have been banned in the beginning but as the meta evolves and people begin to understand the match-up I do believe he should be unbanned (ps I hate fighting Steve still)
@@honeybadgerzombie1159 Steve definitely has losing matchups even Sonic does it's just you also need to know how to play against Steve but a good mu makes it easier compare Acola's set records against the rest of the top 4 and how it aligns with his losing matchups
@@honeybadgerzombie1159He does. And Corrin is one of them. She breaks blocks and cart with ease, her up air beats anvil, and her overall range is oppressive for Steve’s mediocre reach
It's less safer than Cloud's bair, but the thing is that Corrin's bair pushes you forward, despite that being -8/-9 on shield, so it could be a safe move too
Why do people act like Sparg0 (a top 4 player in the world) and Shadic (a top 10 player in the world) beating Steve proves Steve isn't somehow broken? That's the stupidest argument ever. What about the dozens of other people in the bracket who get cheesed by Steve? It's almost like Steve is STILL broken but Sparg0 and Shadic play the two best characters against Steve (Cloud and Corrin).
Onin actually my favorite Steve player to watch, the creativity actually makes it really fun to watch. When Steve doesn't stall the game I find him very entertaining, unfortunately stalling the game out seems to be the more popular and powerful in most cases. Anyways good stuff to shadic wp wp
So you have character that gain Consistent major results. Beat Steve, Kazuya, GNW and goes even against Sonic. Didn't struggles against random mid tier. And the worst MU is super rare character like Sheikh. And people think this character not Top Tier let alone Top 10????
I mean I think most of the results are coming from Shadic being a good player as oppose to corrin being top ten. Realistically it’s only been Shadic and Neo carrying Corrin results. I think corrin is borderline top tier. I know you definitely don’t mean this, but I feel that you’re discrediting all the hard work Shadic has put into the character and writing it off as Corrin being broken.
@@xanander4693 Well I don't think character being broken indicate the player base didn't do a lot of hard work. Like in Tekken 7 Akuma is the best character in the game. You give Akuma to a mid level player they won't win a major because the character is hard to play. But if you know how to play him he is absolutely broken. I think Corrin is similar to that of Akuma although not as extreme. I think the character is broken but to capitalize her broken tool you need to be really good with her.
@@xanander4693 It's not just Shadic and Neo, tho. Sparg0 has taken wins using a pocket Corrin. Leo has a Corrin also. The biggest runs have come from Shadic and Neo - but that's already more than enough to prove Corrin isn't mid tier like people once believed.
a lot of the best characters wouldn't be top 10 if you took away their 2 best players Steve wouldn't be nearly as bad if it was just Onin, Syrup, and Yamanaction I don't think you should need a lot of players to say a character's top 10 I don't think he's discrediting SHADIC he's just saying the characters top 10@@xanander4693
Damn, the few comments in here bullying a kid for playing a video game character and then randomly dissing their pronouns? Y’all actually need to get off elite smash with your -2000 gsp Ganondorf and touch grass.
![Collision 2024 - Spargo (Cloud) [ W ] VS Shadic (Corrin) [ L ] - Ultimate Top 8 - Grand Final](/img/1.gif)
4 of onins 9 deaths where him jumping from ledge into back air lol
Shadic avoiding all of the Steve bs is just *cheif’s kiss* 👌
Corrin Nair is a move that beats all meta. It beat Bacon, minecart and spindash.
@@riqua27 Corrin's Nair has to be top 10
@@PeachTimeX I think up air is still better. But Nair might be close second. The only problem nair has is that it Didn't do much damage like fair or up air. It also didn't combo at 0 if I'm not mistaken.
@@riqua27 you actually can combo at 0 % with it but not on every character, and it's frame perfect if I'm not mistaken. Also, Nair is maybe a "better" combo starter in very low - low % than Fair because Fair do not eject high enough to begin a big combo with.
@@fefe7905Thanks for the heads up!! I just almost never see it happens. So I assume that is the case. I also watch LY video on Corrin guide. And he said Corrin didn't really have a strong 0% combo game. And most of the time SHADIC usually fish for Fair to pin at 0. I guess because it's more consistent damage. Up air is the only aerial I see that actually could make a big combo at 0. I mean he 0 to death Yaura after landing one up air!!!
It's funny how shadic punished his jumps out of ledge SEVERAL times and he kept doing it. PGR'd player btw 😂
everybody has habits but ledge jump is the best option and corrin wrecks everything else too so
Predictable outcome 😌👌
4:03 He deleted his Minecraft world 💀
Damn. Onin got better-player'd. You love to see it.
Onin got owned
Onin isn’t good. Without Steve he’d be mid
@@rohandatta7111 Like every other Steve player
@@rohandatta7111 good enough to top 3. Let it go already.
@@rohandatta7111nah, most Steve players that do well are also good players. This isn’t smash 4 bayo.
What is the orange thing shadic has
Hand warmer
Hand WARMER!? I would be hella sweating in this match 😂
Maybe he has bad circulation
@@dogyX3 Venues are cold a lot of the time.
I wonder who will win
YEAHHHH I LOVE SHADIC, NEW SHADIC FAN RIGHT HERE
Remember when Corrin was a lowtier?
Congrats to Shadic! He did great!
wholesome comment let's go
Onin 3-0 twice by Spargo n Shadic 🔥
I definitely think that Steve should have been banned in the beginning but as the meta evolves and people begin to understand the match-up I do believe he should be unbanned (ps I hate fighting Steve still)
Imagine getting bodied while playing steve
"Imagine losing a -1 matchup against a better player"
@@KingObliv Steve doesn’t have minus matchups versus characters, only players 🫵
@@honeybadgerzombie1159 Steve definitely has losing matchups even Sonic does it's just you also need to know how to play against Steve but a good mu makes it easier compare Acola's set records against the rest of the top 4 and how it aligns with his losing matchups
@@honeybadgerzombie1159 a player matters more than a character
@@honeybadgerzombie1159He does. And Corrin is one of them. She breaks blocks and cart with ease, her up air beats anvil, and her overall range is oppressive for Steve’s mediocre reach
yeah corrin bair is good but lol this is making me feel like its cloud bair
It's less safer than Cloud's bair, but the thing is that Corrin's bair pushes you forward, despite that being -8/-9 on shield, so it could be a safe move too
Shadic you are my Corrin hero
Man, don't you love seeing comments bullying a random kid over a Nintendo party game 🙄
Facts, why watch the set if you’re just gonna bully someone for a character they play, like huh?
#bansteve
seems like an inappropriate place to say that seeing he lost
Ban
@@KevSB07 don't
3-0 took 14 min
I mean he's Fighting Steve. If he fought Kazuya or Roy it would be 10 minutes long.
@@riqua27 that’s the point of me saying that
It’s almost like players learned counter play and no Steve ban is actually required…huh weird lmao
Don’t use logic. Smash players don’t like that.
Just wait until you see Acola play against them.
Also Tweek got Steve'd.
@@dogyX3 you mean when Acola runs into spargo again? Can’t wait.
Why do people act like Sparg0 (a top 4 player in the world) and Shadic (a top 10 player in the world) beating Steve proves Steve isn't somehow broken? That's the stupidest argument ever. What about the dozens of other people in the bracket who get cheesed by Steve? It's almost like Steve is STILL broken but Sparg0 and Shadic play the two best characters against Steve (Cloud and Corrin).
@@l.n.3372 "Why do people act like matches being determined by player skill proves Steve isn't broken?" Is that seriously your argument?
Bye bye Steve
Sad to see Steve at a top 8
Just Bair to win
Hermoso 3 a 0
Onin actually my favorite Steve player to watch, the creativity actually makes it really fun to watch. When Steve doesn't stall the game I find him very entertaining, unfortunately stalling the game out seems to be the more popular and powerful in most cases. Anyways good stuff to shadic wp wp
So you have character that gain Consistent major results. Beat Steve, Kazuya, GNW and goes even against Sonic. Didn't struggles against random mid tier. And the worst MU is super rare character like Sheikh. And people think this character not Top Tier let alone Top 10????
I mean I think most of the results are coming from Shadic being a good player as oppose to corrin being top ten. Realistically it’s only been Shadic and Neo carrying Corrin results. I think corrin is borderline top tier. I know you definitely don’t mean this, but I feel that you’re discrediting all the hard work Shadic has put into the character and writing it off as Corrin being broken.
@@xanander4693 Well I don't think character being broken indicate the player base didn't do a lot of hard work. Like in Tekken 7 Akuma is the best character in the game. You give Akuma to a mid level player they won't win a major because the character is hard to play. But if you know how to play him he is absolutely broken.
I think Corrin is similar to that of Akuma although not as extreme. I think the character is broken but to capitalize her broken tool you need to be really good with her.
@@xanander4693
It's not just Shadic and Neo, tho. Sparg0 has taken wins using a pocket Corrin. Leo has a Corrin also. The biggest runs have come from Shadic and Neo - but that's already more than enough to prove Corrin isn't mid tier like people once believed.
a lot of the best characters wouldn't be top 10 if you took away their 2 best players Steve wouldn't be nearly as bad if it was just Onin, Syrup, and Yamanaction I don't think you should need a lot of players to say a character's top 10 I don't think he's discrediting SHADIC he's just saying the characters top 10@@xanander4693
love to see a steve getting owned, carried players fr
Damn, the few comments in here bullying a kid for playing a video game character and then randomly dissing their pronouns? Y’all actually need to get off elite smash with your -2000 gsp Ganondorf and touch grass.
Dissing their pronouns!!!??? 😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯😭😭😭😭😭💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@tomcampbell8934crazy to act like they’re cringe when u literally watch competitive smash (not even a competitor) 😂
nothing wrong with watching this game@@makingitup5746
@@makingitup5746that doesn’t mean you should bully someone though, not to sound annoying but it’s proper manners even if your online yk
Ban steve
The Steve literally lost 3-0... weird place to comment that
What bs pronouns is this kid making up now lol
It says any/all so idk bro you tell me
Not surprising coming from someone who has painted fingernails and a headband
kid thinks theres more than 2 genders 😂😂
Is onin gay?
Am I blind? When did you even find the pronoun thing? I didn’t notice it.
Never enjoy watching onin cause nothing ever changes between matches, means every match outcome is extremely predictable
of course the one time I root for Onin he loses
Both of these guys look like gurls what is the deal??
Spargo 3-0 Onin.... Shadic 3-0 Onin.... But "bAn sTeVe" right? 🙄😒