Manor Lords Just Broke A Record But Devs Are Worried
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
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About the price increase, if I recall there was a "launch promo" the first 1-2 weeks which was something like 20% off the ordinary price.
“We might increase the price during the Early Access period as additional content and features are added.”
That's quoted from the Steam page under Early Access. The two week launch promo pricing was well communicated on the Steam page, but I would be surprised if the game's price doesn't go up further during Early Access. I also expect the game's price to go up once it exits Early Access.
@@TelperionMtI bought Manor Lords to support the dev and it has great potential, but I find the price pretty high for the state it is currently in. In my opinion they should at least double the amount of content before they increase the price. Ostriv is a similair game and it was more polished and cheaper when it entered early access.
@@kloon9699I don’t really think the pricing should reflect what the product is like on day one of early access. It’s like Kickstarter, you’re paying for the potential of the product. Some games launch completely barebones, but that doesn’t mean you should get a $60 game for $7.99. You either pay the price to support the project or you wait until there’s enough content to justify the price. Otherwise people would just buy thousands of keys for $8 then sell them later for $50.
@@kloon9699same it’s still a cheap game currently at 39.99 or regional equivalent
@@kloon9699I bought this game at the promo 30 EUR price point, because the EA version feels like the shell of a 30 EUR game. No qualms about buying into this game. On the other hand, while this game is not Rimworld or Oxygen Not Included or Songs of Syx, I can’t help but look at those games and compare the price points.
7:48 As the Granary issue was mod-related, I don't know that you can call it a "bug" that requires fixing. That's an issue caused by a third party separate from the Dev. Incidentally, the pre-released beta patch increases the saw mill's storage of logs to 5 logs - rendering at least one of the mods out there moot.
The fact that a game with no multiplayer at all is hitting these kinds of numbers is crazy....
The main consensus on discord seems to indicate that a lot of people are simply busy with their lives, you need to be able to leave a game without warning due to whatever real life event is more pressing. So, yes, single player games are popular, it´s just hard to find good games with innovative game play which cater to those wanting a 15-30 minute experience with some depth which you can just leave and get back to.
I have kids to take care of and I love gaming, the kids will always come first and that has taken me out of the multiplayer scene.
@AurioDK 100% Concur. I'd spend hours on an EQ or similar MMORPG raid pre-kids.
Impossible now.
@@AurioDK yeah its just super impressive given theres no mutliplayer, because you wouldnt really be too shocked with level of success from a game like Apex Legends, Fortnite, etc because the competititve aspect. You'd just never expect a game thats more similar to City Skylines than it is something like Age of Empires to perform so well.
I don't think that every game needs to have a multi player mode. Maybe Co-op. But in case of PvP, I skipped games that didn't habe have single player mode, and I know Iam not the only person who is like that. So there is enough space for single player AND multi player games.
@@AurioDKsame for me my kids needs will always trump mine so single panther games are my go to and this is one is great
People who run the game zoomed out on fast speed are missing so much. Play at normal speed and look around and you will see all sorts of gorgeous little touches, like villagers patting the ox.
This. Too many people are Speed Running it. Its meant to be enjoyed in normal time so you can micromanage it while enjoying all the details.
I was messing around in cinema mode and noticed ice melting off the roof of the church in early spring. 😮
I loves the voice lines from the villagers
Lol we got jobs and lives, it's not sad it just is what it is.
Dudes a multi millionaire, many AAA devs are weeping
1:31, yes, we are SICK of the cartoony graphics. It's infantilizing. We're adults, we don't want cartoony graphics!
yeah, that vibe of carton/mobile style insta killed civ6 for me, couldnt get immersed in it like the previous titles.
Cartoony graphics have their place because realism can get boring, since it all looks the same. This is why movies have filters that make it look not fully realistic.
The minute i saw the first trailer for this i had it wishlisted on steam and followed the dev cause i just felt like it was gonna be something really special. Glad i was right
The big companies often just go the safe route. While the smaller ones seem to go more and more the route that takes more work to do, but also shows more love for the product.
Larian did it with Baldur's Gate 3. While not a solo project, Larian has by far not the size of a AAA Studio. And now we have Manor Lords.
And what both games share already, that they are all over they internet and everyone gives them credits for how much love went into both.
Don't get me wrong, it's not like games from AAA studios are made with no work effort and all are bad. But considering their resources, compared to the developers I talk about, it is a shame they don't aim for more.
played it and its really good, very excited to see where this goes
Props to hooded horse for supporting this. Adding this to a portfolio that also includes Terra Invicta they are bringing all of the best kinds of games for me
I agree they are also publishing falling frontier definitely a publisher to watch
Idk if you saw this yet, but he’s posted jobs on Twitter.
Im 60+ hours into my first playthrough and ive only taken 4 regions. I haven't reset once, just took the land I was dealt and learned by making mistakes. Imo I think too many people are trying to speed run it. Its a slow paced game. I'm basically playing at normal speed, only speeding up for Harvest for example, then i'm just casually micromanaging everything. I understand the bugs and little nuances with trading and it just adds to the challenge. There is so much potential left for this game considering its BETA. Its definitely longer then a 10-15 hour game. My only worry is if my computer can handle any upcoming updates / additions. Having multiple AI on the map sounds amazing but I doubt i can handle it spec wise.
Gonna have to save up your gold and buy a new PC.
Could you imagine a coop campaign or some pvp in this game? Omfg this game could be soooo good
Ah man I hope they make it just like kingdoms reborn it would be so good.
@@Isumu912 i had never heard of kingdom reborn but now that I look at it, it looks really fun and yes manor lords should be a lil bit like that where you can see your coop or enemies on the map!
No.
No! I hope it will never mold into another copy of a game that is already out there. Manor Lords is perfect for singleplayer.
The game is a lot of fun right now, a bit of a challenge to learn though. The Save feature to re-do things is a great way to learn.
Every new start brings a much more efficient and organized city. Good fun!
I feel we need on map Ai lords to give some challenge. I really hope the developer has a good idea of where he wants to go and hope it doesn't take 5 years to get there. I know he is not keen on hiring more staff but he will need help. This project in what it needs to be vs what it is currently is too big for one person to do it
He has already asked for more devs and AI settlements is one of the first major parts he is going to tackle.
I think that’s the end goal is something akin to civilization where you compete with AI on one map at least I hope it really seems like that in the end goal
Granaries disappear and their workers don't get carts on the pre-release beta patch when you've installed mods - particularly the mod that lets your saw mill accept 5 logs at a time. I had to completely uninstall and re-install with the ~mods folder moved elsewhere before my Granaries started working correctly again.
the game didnt raise price it was on sale for a farm week thing when the game was released. the dev even said to not be afraid if you dont buy on the sale. they said there would be more in future.
2.2M!! 🤯
Glad to find out he sold 1M copies at launch, but that figure has since plunged to 10k concurrent players.
Some thoughts I had:
- game is quite pricey for an early access product
- establishing supply chains hinted at lots of micro-management
- ironically, I learnt from watching youtube videos that gameplay involved expanding within starter region, then expanding to nearby regions, which means the micro-management thing is COMPOUNDED
- youtube videos also highlighted the amount of supply-chain/resource upgrades needed to equip a small squad of farmers
- no multi-player
- even if in future eg. each map (every region conquered) becomes a "player kingdom" that other players can invade, it's still an isolated instance. But this type of PvP model I don't mind at all.
- as is, it's really a game for hardcore city-builder nerds, a niche compared to the Total War crowd
- being a solo indie project means it's probably going to have lots of missing features, lots of features that are shallow implementations, that either don't really affect or have oversized effects on the outcomes (ie. make or break)
- 👍👍 for CHURCHES 😊😊
The game is very playable and enjoyable, on top of being gorgeous and fun, and somewhat balanced. It is a LOT more than we can say about "full releases" of indie or AAA games.
Talking about playable I am running this game on a steam deck 😂 it’s great doesn’t really strain the system shows how great the optimization is
In fact the game price wasn't raised, technically it was on sale when released and later went to the target price.
I've wondered for too long and bought it at full price but I do not regret buying.
I agree Price factored in a large part, it was a real Early access price, not a full priced beta something we see too much, I think people are just crying out for games with some soul to them, we are just so sick of AAA politically correct bug ridden over monitised trash
I bought Manor Lords to support the dev and it has great potential, but I find the price pretty high for the state it is currently in. Ostriv is a similair game and it was more polished and cheaper when it entered early access.
suffering from success
game came out on sale, do some research bro
Dude needs to get some help or he's going to burn out.
Though I imagine he doesn't want to become a project manager rather than a developer. Tinkerers gonna tinker
I really enjoy this game so far. Looking forward to more!
The game is awesome . Been waiting for a NON PVP game like this for a long time .
interesting vid.
It is beautiful (bought it and played it) and I hope it will improve even more ! (Cities and castles !!!)
my manor lord mod wish list⚠
1 wooden parths that generate passive in come
2 a corps pit that generates 1 raw ore per 2 dead bodys buried [ a bandet got to leave a coin or a sward right
3 sheep give muton mod 1 muton slaghter house per sheep
4 calvelry men mod
5 vilage fair mod - lasts one year then disapiers- 25 to buy mellea event
[win one jester gives 1 happynes for 1 year]
50 to buy cavelry joustin event [gives hero for 1 year]
6 mariage mod for lord and tier 3 famalys
7 convert well into pond mod fish stoke cost 100 and lasts 3 years
8 JUISTING FIELD REAGANAL FAIR MOD
9 orcherd mod
10 list of tradeing famlys mod
11 turn well into pond mod [cost 50 to stock with fisg for 3 years]
12 forced eviction mod
Yea the numbers... that's just amazing! Best game so far
The game has about two months left before it will start to rapidly decline in popularity.
Facing 1 AI opponent is obviously not enough, there is no strategy, at least 4 more AI opponents are required and the number of regions increased. The land available in each region needs to be reduced by about a third, making for tougher decisions about where to locate buildings etc. More resource types need to be put into the game, say 5, with each region containing only 2 of these new resources to create objectives and conflict. The game is half of what it should be, yes it is early access, but the player base isn't going to play it in its current form for much longer.
geometry dash is a 1 dev game aswell
Did u really need to post a rant about wether u think the game was from a solo developer or not? Then choosing the side of the single developer story and at the same time writing "Devs" on your title. Waste of time
I was thinking the same.
It's still early access. They need to make sure we can have cavalry, a stable for selling horses and buying horses for a cavalry.
It's planned, as well as crossbows and early firearms like cannons and smaller ones.
i'd expect it to keep dropping in concurrent players. it's almost sure to drop below 5,000 soon. what's propping the game up is a very time-consuming gameplay loop, but like you said (and understated), it has very little content. so whenever the concurrent numbers bottom out, it's probably going to be the players that stick to a game purely based on the time-consuming gameplay loop.
I think a big reason for the drop is a lot of players are just waiting for the update, not that they lost interest or something.
@@andyv2209 what you said adds to the point. a popular sentiment in the community is that the game is at about 25% of what it wants to be for 1.0 release. the players also know it took 7 years of development to reach here, so there's no telling how long it will take to flesh out the significant amount of content needed.
the players know that and so the game's steam numbers are unlikely to rise to high levels again for a quite a long time.
@@rudy_4ier i disagree, i think they'll rise again after the beta patch that just launched gets a full release. People want to play with the features of the patch but don't want to lose their saves so they're waiting to come back soon as its tested. The drop off isn't all because of wanting the full game release is mostly, i think, because the new patch is just around the corner.
@@rudy_4ierfor me I just want to play the game and I have put in almost 13 hours now since I bought it on friday and as far as content I think it has plenty at least for me as an individual everyone has their own opinion though and that’s fine
@@andyv2209 i personally don't see 0.7955 (live) to 0.7960 (beta) being a significant factor in player numbers. definitely not something that would reverse the trend on steam charts. maybe i'll be proven wrong, so we'll just have to wait and see.
The Devs that helped Slavic are now making a game called “Manor Kings Rising”
I'm already looking for Manor Lords 2.
dont forget to ,pray for people in palestine & gaza
the game is trash so idk why it sold so much tbh
That’s your opinion. Millions other people enjoy it. That’s normal.