PIRATES of the CARIBBEAN miniature effects
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2018
- Lorne Peterson and Danny Wagner talk about the miniature effects for Pirates of the Caribbean. Photos ILM, Kerner Optical. Segment from Sense of Scale documentary.
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The effects on these movies are really underrated. They are so realistic! It's what sets them apart from later installments; Salazar's revenge barely used any real models and you can see it's a CG hell. This on the other hand is fantastic!
Unless I'm mistaken that's the escape pod from the first "Star Wars" film (or a replica of it) sitting on the table. Wonderful to see an interview with Lorne, whose name I became familiar with back in 1977 for his work on that film and the Saturday morning Filmation series "Space Academy".
The DVDs contain making of footage, and all they show the CGI. I never knew these movies had any models in them until just watching this clip now.
Thank you so much for tracking this down! There is defiantely not enough documentation on miniatures. The endeavor explosion was one of the most real looking shots I've seen since!
Endeavour 😉
This is from my documentary, Sense of Scale, on film industry model makers.
@@piercefilm Where can I purchase the documentary? The website no longer exists and while its great the segments are up on youtube, I'd love to own a copy myself.
@@zybch The old DVD´s are sold out. I am uploading the doc here on this channel in segments. Plus new interviews not on the DVD! It will be 15 - 20 hours long, and not worth making a new DVD/Bluray etc. Here it's all free!
“definitely”, not “defiant-ly” 😆
I love the escape pod from A New Hope just chilling in the background.
Congrats brother, love seeing you featured on this, you deserve it, love sis
these interviews are so interesting and precious!
Those are beautiful ship models.
I'm really enjoying your channel!
I also enjoy looking back upon when white men created movies. Before the masters who look white but are not, bought it all up and drove them out and replaced them with diversity hires. RIP
Hate to be cliche, but this is movies as they should be
Amazing insight thank you. Does anyone know if these breathtaking Bigiature models still exist? Truly breath-taking work. 🏆
It's likely Disney has them hidden away somewhere.
I really thought they used cgi when blowing up the ships. I'm impressed
Thats a cool miniature of a star wars episode 4 escape pod in the background as hes speaking
did they composite in real actors on the model ships?
what happened to the model after filming?
What happens to these larger models after filming ?
Sometimes a studio will keep them for tourist displays like the Hogwarts castle model in London. But mostly they are trashed.
@@piercefilmsometimes directors and model shops keep stuff also I think. Today if miniatures were being used all the time the studios wouldn't let anything go. As soon as they realized that people love to collect this stuff they started hoarding it all.
What scale was the ship
Odd that they used the name Endeavor to depict a battle ship more like HMS Victory. Endeavor is a famous ship used for exploration, it was small and not armed to the teeth with three decks of canons.
Am I missing something from the movie that explains this?
It's a Hollywood movie based on a Disneyland theme park ride. They give names to things as they please. Nothing to do with reality!
Hey good day, do you have anymore videos of pirates of the caribbean 😊
That's the only one. I asked each model maker about many different films that they worked on.
Ok, that fine😊
I know Danny Wagner. He was in my ROP class back in High School. He sat next to me for a semester. Small world....
Those was miniatures?! I thought all was CGI! WTF!!!
Remember - the first three Pirates films came out in the early 2000s - CGI was definitely USED - but model effects were still very much used at the time as well. And they've never COMPLETELY gone away. Chris Nolan's Interstellar used model shots for all the spacecraft effects - except for things like the debris cloud expanding from a damaged, spinning ship. Sometimes the lighting and camera processing just WORKS better on models rather than CGI for some reason.
@@logandarklighter Yea that the spacecraft was a model was actually very obvious since it was so badly done so CGI would have been better there for sure.
@Piercefilm, you should interview Adam Savage of "Myth Busters" fame. He started as a miniature model maker. Worked on "The Matrix" and "Star Wars" prequels. He now has a RUclips channel, Adam Savage's Tested. You'd get more exposure and sell more DVDs or digital downloads. Just a thought.
I think Adam has already talked a lot about his miniature FX work at ILM. I am looking for model makers who haven't been interviewed yet!
@@piercefilm , he could be a potential source of finding model makers to interview.
Was there little Puppet Saliors on board
Kaboom
The Endeavor is from my home town of Middlesborough. Its kind of a a big deal here. Its captains Cooks ship that first discovered Australia.
And that model isn't accurate. Sorry guys.
It's a fantasy ship with the same name for a movie based on a pirate ride at Disneyland...
@@piercefilm is it? Then why did they make sure it was British? It does have the same design, but that would explain it if that's the case. Still excellent model work all the same.
Really interesting but too much of the men talking, not enough of the miniatures. Why can't you just have them as a voice over and concentrate on what they built?
Because this doc is about THE MODEL MAKERS. It's their chance to tell their stories how they made things. You're missing the point of this documentary. Watch another channel maybe or rent the DVD´s that have studio produced making of´s with more action footage etc. You seem to know better how to make these interviews. Make your own!
@@piercefilm I have no issue with the guy's talking at all, the documentary is all about what they have to say. However, we don't have to see them so much. By all means introduce them so we can see who they are, after that just show what they are talking about and leave them as a commentary. I still like your work, it was just some constructive criticism.