T.Hawk is one of the coolest fighting game characters ever! Here is why

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @rooflemonger
    @rooflemonger  2 года назад +151

    Long overdue on this video honestly. Time for me to spread the love of T.Hawk to everyone! I am known as a T.Hawk supporter and consider this a stealth way for me to cast a vote for T.Hawk for Street Fighter 6. He's big, he slams people around, for a lot of people that's enough to love a guy but i will also go into some of his cool bits of tech that make him super unique and unlike anyone else in Street Fighter. The tech shown for SF2 and SF4 is just a drip in a raging river but it should give you an idea on why I think T.Hawk is so cool! T.HAWK FOR STREET FIGHTER 6!!! *edit* also give a like on the vid for T.hawk, he deserves it :)

    • @nocandoslurms433
      @nocandoslurms433 2 года назад +16

      More videos of you talking about shit you love in fighting games, please.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +13

      @@nocandoslurms433 The stuff I love in fighting games is weird and scary to most.

    • @nocandoslurms433
      @nocandoslurms433 2 года назад +5

      Perhaps. But consider why this was a good video: you were passionate about the subject matter, and it shows.

    • @johntoye6602
      @johntoye6602 2 года назад +1

      Back in the day, me and my friend would have constant T.Hawk vs Zangief match-ups and I would usually have T.Hawk.
      So yeah he is great, although I don't think he was so good in Alpha 3, my mate would usually come out on top in those games.

    • @neonthunder3261
      @neonthunder3261 2 года назад

      you tried alpha 3 Upper? T. Hawk is in that game

  • @kirkl6363
    @kirkl6363 2 года назад +219

    My little sister was a T Hawk main. She would always get so excited seeing me play and ask to join, especially when my fiends were over. She absolutely destroyed my buddy who went to locals with her “button smashing” technique. I’ll never forget that. Rest In Peace Katie. Every time I win in street fighter I dedicate it to you.

    • @RazirTheShark
      @RazirTheShark Год назад +9

      Man, a lot of thes Street Fighter players have dead relatives makes me sad dude. I DONT WANNA LOSE ANYONE!!!

    • @djandjb1
      @djandjb1 Год назад +7

      @@RazirTheSharkWe didn’t either.. Just pray that when the time comes, you will be strong enough

    • @RazirTheShark
      @RazirTheShark Год назад +4

      @@djandjb1 Yeah, we always have to be strong. Death is just a part of life, it is always unexpected. But we all need to think that they watch us from the heavens or just as ghosts. (I believe in ghosts btw)

    • @CaptainStupendous
      @CaptainStupendous 4 месяца назад +3

      RIP Katie, Destroyer of Fiends.

    • @liliencalvel6151
      @liliencalvel6151 2 месяца назад +1

      Was reading your comment then the ending. Bummer. sorry for your loss

  • @mosari3171
    @mosari3171 2 года назад +125

    Liked before I even got a minute in. I just love to see this kind of genuine love for a character, no matter who it is! Thank you for such wholesome content (even if it is a grappler)!

  • @N00BSYBORG
    @N00BSYBORG 2 года назад +124

    T.Hawk's U2 in SFIV is still one of my favorite super animations. It's a shame it was tied to such an obnoxious input while Hugo had a similar Ultra with not only an easier input but better hitbox too.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +39

      Yeah the input was jacked. When a move is designed to be reactionary, giving it one of the most hated inputs of all time in double half circle isn't exactly a smart play.

    • @eoghanw1
      @eoghanw1 2 года назад +4

      I just used it on their wake-up

    • @donovanchilton5817
      @donovanchilton5817 2 года назад +3

      They're both rainbow trajectories, Hugo's is lower. He can miss obvious jump ins if they're at the apex of the jump, can be annoying. He can however snatch that ass from full screen if you decide to jump back for whatever reason.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      You do realize where he is from?

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      @@rooflemonger You do realize where he is from?

  • @fissilewhistle
    @fissilewhistle 2 года назад +71

    I think it’s cool that the T stands for Thunder. Thunder Hawk is just a badass name.

    • @shenglongisback4688
      @shenglongisback4688 2 года назад +10

      If thats was my name as a kid... i would soo epic..
      Teacher: sooo we going too do the roll call.
      Bart??here miss Homer?? Here Miss
      Thunder Hawk ... YASS IM HERE!!! CONDOR DIVE

    • @ymb9sho673
      @ymb9sho673 2 года назад +6

      Is it not Tony?? (°▽°)

    • @shenglongisback4688
      @shenglongisback4688 2 года назад +1

      @@ymb9sho673 lol gud one.

    • @ilovekatsumi
      @ilovekatsumi 2 года назад +3

      I always thought it was Toma, so it could be TomaHawk? XD

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Mr. Wumbology, do you know where T Hawk is from?

  • @pauljung9620
    @pauljung9620 2 года назад +96

    I think big guys are cool when they're not just a walking lard of muscle/fat, they should have something more going for them, some other aesthetic, like crusader, he's big and hes a priest, those two combined i think make for a dope ass character design

    • @erugurara8235
      @erugurara8235 2 года назад +8

      For a big guy who has a cool asthetic i would go to Big band from skullgirls or Holemon in Slap happy rthym busters.

    • @isaiahtorok7079
      @isaiahtorok7079 2 года назад +7

      I think snk does this really well, shermie, yashiro, Ramon, vice, just to name a few are really cool grapplers. Kof's core game mechanics make grappler more fun I think because of the universal mobility options

    • @IKARIking67
      @IKARIking67 2 года назад

      absolutely agree.

    • @arandomguyontheinternet2308
      @arandomguyontheinternet2308 2 года назад

      Potemkin is also a really unique

  • @MrMarket1987
    @MrMarket1987 2 года назад +43

    Of course Rooflemonger loves the big grappler that makes opponents go speen with cool moves. But the tech backstory he's had is of course excellently articulated and easy to grasp, as always.

  • @voidandnon-2530
    @voidandnon-2530 2 года назад +83

    I mained Hawk in 4, and got in the top 100 Hawk players on Steam. There are so many tricks people just aren't ready for. The face grab animation never got old.

    • @jons9239
      @jons9239 2 года назад +1

      Yesss Im life long loyal to Geif but T hawk in SF4 was so good! All sorts of crazy hawk dive, spd stuff to do. Lol

    • @IKARIking67
      @IKARIking67 2 года назад

      Yeah. Every time he's been added to a new SF, i've used him and Honda. Can't miss with Hawk.

    • @donovanchilton5817
      @donovanchilton5817 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, I was a big time Hugo main in usf4 but T. hawk was my jam before he came out. I'm getting back into him now in 2022 haha. Online is a madhouse.

    • @jons9239
      @jons9239 2 года назад

      @@donovanchilton5817 Where are all the people playing SF4 still?

    • @donovanchilton5817
      @donovanchilton5817 2 года назад

      @@jons9239 because sfv is garbage lol

  • @MrCactuar13
    @MrCactuar13 2 года назад +3

    T Hawk calls in a bird for his SF4 win pose and that's why you should play him

  • @oni5963
    @oni5963 2 года назад +1

    wasnt super keen on giving super turbo a try until watching this video, my grappler bloods pumping again after seeing that really cool T.Hawk tech! Safe to say you've got a new member of the T.Hawk army! Keep up the good work dude!

  • @SamSarracino
    @SamSarracino 2 года назад +16

    I respect someone giving love and loyalty to a character. Especially one with few fans. I cried for oro's absence for more than 20 years and now that he is here i'm really happy. I hope you get T. Hawk in SFVI. Besides, i'm mexican like him

    • @LolaB2001
      @LolaB2001 2 года назад

      Same

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      @@LolaB2001 Are you Mexican too beautiful? Es usted mexicana bella dama?

  • @CrossfacePanda
    @CrossfacePanda 2 года назад +12

    1. He beeg
    2. He large
    3. He dunk

  • @rewrose2838
    @rewrose2838 2 года назад +1

    Vega is my first and final love for fighting games
    but T. Hawk and E. Honda are up there, very cool 😁

  • @rooflemonger
    @rooflemonger  2 года назад +20

    And to head this one off at the pass cause any T.Hawk discussion always seems to summon it. Yeah I know T.Hawk is more than a bit of a stereotype. However speaking as someone with Native American ancestry(and Ukrainian too! I am an odd mix) I think its fine. Not all stereotypes are harmful and SF2 specifically the majority of the cast are stereotypes cause that's just how the 90s was and there was never any malice intended. I do hope if T.Hawk ever comes back though they do something more with his Mexican heritage and give him a look more appropriate of Mexican indigenous peoples though. Play up his Mexican background! And also still have him be huge and slam around people smaller and weaker than him.

    • @stangarza7820
      @stangarza7820 2 года назад +1

      So what is T.Hawk exactly?
      Is he a Mexican Native American?
      As a kid I always loved T.Hawk (and I still do) because he is representing Mexico in SSF2 and SSF4, but I always got confused about the whole nationality thing

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +5

      @@stangarza7820 He's mexican, american indian basically lol. They probably just watched a bunch of john wayne films from the 60s or something and decided good enough. Its an attempt to be diverse(which is good!) as a lot of fighters in the early 90s had north american indigenous representation, just they were all stereotypical cause they didn't know any better.

    • @matthewirizarry8467
      @matthewirizarry8467 2 года назад +3

      A specific group of people complain about stereotypes and that same group also complains about representation in media. If you are going to try and represent a whole population with 1 character, you will inevitably hit upon some stereotypes. If you don't, then you are likely not representing the people as well as you think you are. I am Puerto Rican 100%. My ancestry is Taino and Corsican. I live in Texas and play with a lot of Mexicans of native ancestry (native american, aztec, inca, and others) and pretty much all of them have a pocket T Hawk because they enjoy his design.

    • @Archvile6
      @Archvile6 2 года назад +1

      He is supposed to be a Mexican indian, but he is designed as a Cherokee indian, probably due to confused developers

    • @allcapcomeverything3866
      @allcapcomeverything3866 2 года назад

      Same, I'm black and have NA ancestry as well, and never thought of him as that bad. Hell I'd say Dee Jay is worse and HE'S not even that bad either lol. The weird thing is his design because he's supposed to be Mexican but the lore indicates that he was in America and got driven to Mexico.

  • @lavish_tape4899
    @lavish_tape4899 2 года назад +2

    I love to see T.Hawk make a return I recently started playing him in usf4 and his command grab is broken 😂

  • @CaptianChito
    @CaptianChito 2 года назад +2

    I need to say thank you for giving me a lecture on this character, I always thought he was bland but I never knew he was a grapler, I never knew he was such an interesting character, but dude looking at all the stuff he represents, his options and origin man, he’s sooooo cool

  • @adamdonnelly6470
    @adamdonnelly6470 2 года назад +1

    Loved the Hawk in SSF4. No one knew how to fight me because the character was so rare lol. Got me into the grappler archetype.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Greetings Mr. Donnelly, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

  • @jwonggg
    @jwonggg 2 года назад +5

    I will never love T Hawk... =p

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +2

      One day you will accept T.Hawks purity into your heart

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Your country may have invented martial arts, buy my country still has the best fighters in the world in real life. You're a hater.

  • @dk1800ify
    @dk1800ify 2 года назад +1

    Good video, As a grappler hater no recovery on whiff command grabs is nightmare fuel.

  • @allcapcomeverything3866
    @allcapcomeverything3866 2 года назад +14

    I always liked T. Hawk and thought it was laughable that people just wrote him off as an offensive Native American stereotype (speaking as someone who has Native ancestry himself and was proud to see a halfway decent character from that culture) when his only stereotypical trait is a couple aspects of how he looks. These people better steer clear of Nightwolf then.
    Anyway.....he was my favorite character in SSFIV, I got a lot of BP just using him and tick throwing endlessly. People didn't know how to react to him. I was hoping maybe he'd be in SFV but he might not have worked so well with the way the game worked. I didn't use him too much in the SSF2 games, but I feared when my friend would pick him.
    I always liked his story too, especially in A3 and his relationship with Juli. He wasn't so good to play in that game (seriously, wtf is with that stupid Canyon Splitter super), but I still used him sometimes.
    If SF6 goes back to a more even style of play, I hope Hawk comes back.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Hey ACE, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

  • @ooffordays566
    @ooffordays566 2 года назад +11

    You might have just convinced me to join the T. Hawk army. This tech sounds straight up evil, especially the negative edge in ST and the jump down medium punch in SF4. I need to try and learn some of this crazy tech.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Greetings Mr. Days, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk?

  • @darkpigraph
    @darkpigraph 2 года назад +2

    T Hawk was my SFIV main, I got that he wasnt exactly strong but I enjoyed playing him, it was usually really intense trying to get up close and create your openings. So much fun to be had with the light spd! And his U2 was easily the most satisfying ultra to land in the entire game.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Hey Dark, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

    • @darkpigraph
      @darkpigraph 2 года назад

      @@bgonza2 if I remember correctly from SSF2 his country of descent is Mexico?

  • @A-1-Sawce
    @A-1-Sawce 2 года назад +57

    I'm mostly Mexican so I always thought it was cool to see some Mexican representation in Street Fighter, as it's my favorite game. I do hope if he's brought back they play up some more of his Mexican side and maybe balance it out with his Native side. Either way he's awesome and videos like this are long overdue!

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +20

      I do think if he were to ever come back, he should play up the Mexican heritage a lot more for sure.

    • @koki84ji7
      @koki84ji7 2 года назад +8

      @@rooflemonger what is mexican heritage? I ask as a mexican just to see what you think. Mexico is a big country with lots of people and many different costumes. It is a mixed country and also a country of immigrants. Many people in Northern Mexico could look like T Hawk many could be black, white, indigenous. We come in all colors shapes and sizes

    • @dontdoxmebro
      @dontdoxmebro 2 года назад +3

      Mexicans are “native Americans”; they’re indigenous to North America.
      Trail of tears bro.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +14

      @@koki84ji7 something more appropriate to mexico and indigenous peoples there. Despite being labeled as Mexican hawk is very much based off the central plains natives in the states.

    • @CrystalPantherMeanFangs
      @CrystalPantherMeanFangs 2 года назад +3

      You have el fuerte for Mexican representation

  • @GottWaffe
    @GottWaffe 2 года назад +2

    Always loved T.Hawk simply because of the way he slams you on the ground with all his power...but those gimmicks he has surely seem fun,first time hearing about it.

  • @Archvile6
    @Archvile6 2 года назад +1

    As a T Hawk main in SFIV, I thoroughly enjoyed this video my friend

  • @petros-v4w
    @petros-v4w 2 года назад +1

    T Hawk had the grappling intense of Zangief and the aerial style of Vega. A great combination for sure!

  • @larquefausse3623
    @larquefausse3623 2 года назад +1

    I had SSF2 (non-Turbo) on the Genesis as my first fighting game. I was at the age where I didn't know any tech about anything and the most advanced thing I could do were QCF motions (hence I gravitated towards the charge characters). 360 motions for T. Hawk were never going to happen, but I do remember spamming the dive all the time. The computer opponent would almost always fall for it and T. Hawk was the first character I was able to clear arcade mode with.

  • @carlosrdgz1385
    @carlosrdgz1385 2 года назад +38

    I always had a place in my heart for T Hawk for being the first """""Mexican""""" videogame character that I knew of. He may not look the part but he is cool enough for me to not care that much.

    • @Ecuador006
      @Ecuador006 2 года назад +2

      He is indian not mexican

    • @carlosrdgz1385
      @carlosrdgz1385 2 года назад +9

      @@Ecuador006 I'm sure you mean the native american type, and yes, he clearly is supposed to be that. But officially he was mexican, at least on release.
      Maybe I should've used more quotation marks.

    • @LolaB2001
      @LolaB2001 2 года назад +2

      Back when I was a little kid, me and my friends thought it was super cool that he was from Mexico (his stage). Yeah, but after reading his bio in EGM and Game Pro magazines, it was a bit of a let down he wasn't truly Mexican, but we still had love for T Hawk. I'll never forget seeing him in Super SF 2 back then

    • @Scorpio7500
      @Scorpio7500 2 года назад +1

      @@LolaB2001 first nation ppls / aboriginals are Mexican too *eyeroll* what did you think cortes found when he arrived in Mexico

    • @kevinzico
      @kevinzico 2 года назад

      @@Ecuador006 There are a lot Indians that live in Mexico

  • @tongpoo8985
    @tongpoo8985 2 года назад +1

    My buddy used to tear my ass up with Thawk back in sf4. Good times

  • @NorieagaHDR
    @NorieagaHDR 2 года назад

    I love landing a blocked standing medium kick into his super in ST and HDR.

  • @Kalebent
    @Kalebent 2 года назад +10

    He's definitely one of the most underrated fighting game characters ever. I loved everything about him in USFIV. And SFV was HIS game, but Capcom missed the chance.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Hey AyK S, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

    • @Kalebent
      @Kalebent 2 года назад

      @@bgonza2 He's native American.

  • @thenionx
    @thenionx 2 года назад +51

    He has always been my favorite Street Fighter. When he first came out the command grab was called the Storm Hammer, not Mexican Typhoon.That name solidified him as my favorite grappler in the series. As much as I'm not that good when it comes to playing him, he is my main whenever he's available.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад +1

      My friend, may I please know what is your nationality.
      Also, since you mention my nationality seeing as the SF character T-Hawk is from there:
      May I please know what is your earliest memory and/or history with my country of Mexico or with Mexicans or with Mexican culture as far back as you can possibly remember as a child or teenager in your native country?
      In other words how did you first learn about Mexico, Mexicans and/or about Mexican culture growing up?
      Perhaps your very first knowledge of Mexico/Mexicans/Mexican culture first occurred in school, or from watching the television, a movie, listening to a song, or perhaps your parents or other family members or friends or others first introduced you to anything relating to Mexico, Mexicans and Mexican culture for the very first time in your life? Or perhaps your very first knowledge of Mexico first occurred in some other way? I'm just curious.
      I appreciate your honest responses. Thank you for your time my friend.

    • @cynthiagipson8039
      @cynthiagipson8039 Год назад +1

      Omg streetfighter 6 just drop his trailer Jesus Christ he very over powered

    • @thenionx
      @thenionx Год назад

      @@cynthiagipson8039 really?!?

    • @cynthiagipson8039
      @cynthiagipson8039 Год назад

      Yes salena bout to drop lord we workin on her now Mexican bout to go crazy in later we will release the undisputed queen hip hop soul mary j blige her ultimate move will be no more drama

  • @Setteri_
    @Setteri_ 2 года назад +17

    Really interesting stuff, I'd love to see more of those featuring other unpopular characters.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      The hell you say?! T Hawk is NOT an unpopular character. You're a Trump supporter aren't you Setterik?

    • @Setteri_
      @Setteri_ 2 года назад

      @@bgonza2 Ok

  • @mrzaragoza9369
    @mrzaragoza9369 2 года назад +4

    Id loved T Hawk since he came out , as well as Thunder from Killer Instinct. Idk their look as super buffed Indian american really gets my attention

  • @prof.laytonfan764
    @prof.laytonfan764 2 года назад +3

    T Hawks Ultra 2 in SF4 is one of the coolest grappler supers I’ve ever seen.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Greetings, Mr. Fan, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

  • @donovanchilton5817
    @donovanchilton5817 2 года назад +1

    You know what? You right. T. Hawk is fucken dope.

  • @mast3rharo
    @mast3rharo 2 года назад +2

    Grappler nightwolf? I'm in.

  • @JunkyKreeg
    @JunkyKreeg 2 года назад

    Haven't seen the vid yet but have to comment, I love T. Hawk and I 'm really sad hes not that pupular. Thx for the video, here's hopin for SF6

  • @KnightsDisillusion
    @KnightsDisillusion 2 года назад +3

    T.Hawk specifically kicks my ass everytime i play SF2. Every. Damn. Time.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +2

      Its his nature, he can't help it

  • @Jose-xm3tq
    @Jose-xm3tq 2 года назад

    T.Hawk and F. Long were my mains
    Back I'm the day and SF4

  • @PrimevalDemon
    @PrimevalDemon 2 года назад +2

    FUCK YES ABSOLUTELY
    Preach your gospel!! Love this dude he's my favorite example of airial adjacent complimentary character!!
    Cammy ~ T.Hawk
    Morrigan ~ Jedah
    SonSon ~ Strider
    Stuff like that!!
    Characters both with aerial tech design focus but in similar but not exactly identical senses!
    Hawk in general is very lovely I love his theme , design , personality. Severely underappreciated and under utilized.

  • @ghaspghasping5526
    @ghaspghasping5526 2 года назад +1

    this showed me a new beauty to super turbo

  • @SlamBaron
    @SlamBaron Год назад

    I loved in T.Hawk in street fighter 4. When I was playing I used to despise Sagat as Zangief. At first I used Abel but then I didn't like him and his kit was constantly being changed around to the point I didn't like him anymore. I switched to T.Hawk and it was amazing to have a grappler that could crush Sagat's zoning game and get around it with dives and punish his whiffs just by landing near him and doing the super or ultra combo 1 after LOL.

  • @Nintenguy0
    @Nintenguy0 2 года назад +5

    If there's one reason I love coming back to your channel again and again, its your genuine love and passion for all the cool stuff in fighting games. More people need to be make videos that essentially boil down to, "Dude isn't this cool?" I mean thats why most people started playing games in the first place, it was cool, fun, and interesting! Learning all the tech and practicing your combos to win EVO next year, don't get me wrong that's fun too. Learning about things on a technical level is a huge part of what a lot of people enjoy about fighting games, but I just think there's room too for simply adoring the cool and fantastical side of these games as well. Between this and your last couple of videos on speculating Guilty Gear's future story, and giving a history and synopsis of some of the wackier fighting game characters ever, I just love the passion man and I look forward to more. Bring on the fanboying people!

  • @waluigimourner8071
    @waluigimourner8071 2 года назад +1

    I don't even play SF and I really like T.Hawk

  • @LordCornshoe
    @LordCornshoe 2 года назад +1

    T.Hawk was my main throughout SF4's variants and I was always surprised more people didn't learn him. He has some great tech and the back-jump EX Condor Dive can scare the crap out of people. Nothing's a better feeling than your opponent being one block-tick away from defeat and you have two or more bars on your meter. I hop back and forth until they're forced to eat it.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Mr. Priest, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

    • @LordCornshoe
      @LordCornshoe 2 года назад

      ​@@bgonza2 Why, do you need help learning it?

  • @MegaBlacksocks
    @MegaBlacksocks 2 года назад +1

    Love this! I want some THawk matches now!

  • @SturmAH
    @SturmAH 2 года назад +1

    T. Hawk is my favorite character. He can surprise a lot of players with his mobillity and strength.

  • @1ofakind247
    @1ofakind247 2 года назад

    Fun fact, in Ultra 4 you can connect his Ultra 2 if you successfully manage to read a BD near your opponent and if you land the focus attack and they are on your knees

    • @1ofakind247
      @1ofakind247 2 года назад

      And his Omega version is the main inspiration for Necalli s moveset

  • @ericklugo3051
    @ericklugo3051 2 года назад +1

    Imagine T.Hawk on 3s 🤯

  • @petertromp8786
    @petertromp8786 2 года назад +5

    For the longest time I thought T-Hawk was ultra lame (full disclosure: I thought all of the New Challengers of Super Street Fighter II, with the exception maybe of Cammy, were lame). Over time however, I came to appreciate how dorkily cool T. Hawk actually is. I've even come to like Dee Jay and even though Fei Long is so obviously a Bruce Lee ripoff, there's no denying that his Rekkas are one of the most important innovations in fighting game history and has been sorely missed in SFV. I would have loved to see what the SFV design team would have done with T. Hawk and Dee Jay in SFV. Many of the team's redesigns of staple characters have been home runs - not just the visual redesigns, but the move updates as well - and I'm almost certain they would have given those two characters a proper re-imagining as well. It's fascinating to think what T. Hawk and Dee Jay's V-system would have been like - especially if they were later season additions, when the game became a lot more interesting.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Hey Tromp, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

    • @petertromp8786
      @petertromp8786 2 года назад

      @@bgonza2 Why?

  • @shadow_man_exe4727
    @shadow_man_exe4727 2 года назад +1

    i love T. Hawk. he is my Main in Sf4. sad he wasnt in 5. Sagat is my Main in 5 since he was my secondary in 4.

    • @shadow_man_exe4727
      @shadow_man_exe4727 2 года назад +1

      the thing i like the most about T. Hawk is representation. Not only is he Mexican but he's Native American. Capcom thought, "Lets put someone in how is actually Native to the North American Continent in" And that to me is awesome. Later we'd Get El Fuerte Showcasing more Cultural Diversity of the Country. Street Fighter is a Game about the world and to see this representation of cultures all in one game is my number 1 reason why I love Street Fighter!

  • @kivaHBRO_04
    @kivaHBRO_04 2 года назад +1

    I feel like what makes T.Hawk a good character is him yelling all the time in USFIV.

  • @Valcien
    @Valcien 2 года назад

    Been playing the FUCK out of T-Hawk since I read Sirlin's article about balancing him for HD Remix back in 2009.

  • @francofernandes2006
    @francofernandes2006 2 года назад +3

    T. Hawk improved grappling and air mobility in ways never seen before;
    Fei Long introduced rekka, creating an entirely new character trait;
    Dee Jay expanded upon the charge move concept, making way for future charge characters to come;
    Cammy expanded the way kicks work and can be used, improving combat mechanics and becoming one of the most recognisable Street Fighter characters to this day;
    To the New Challengers, everyone!🥂 And to all they did to the franchise, as well and the entire FGC.

  • @TheAquaSphere
    @TheAquaSphere 2 года назад +1

    T-hawk is awesome! God damn!

  • @Krizrax
    @Krizrax 2 года назад +1

    I mained T. Hawk in SF4, I hope he gets to return in SF6. Not holding my breath though :P

  • @spectaa3138
    @spectaa3138 2 года назад

    I used to have a friendship with someone solely based on our shared hatred for T Hawk.

  • @shadowchao21
    @shadowchao21 5 месяцев назад

    I was surprised when i found out that every street fighter game 2 onwards supports the negative edge input for specials.

  • @2ToTheDome
    @2ToTheDome 2 года назад +4

    here from jmcrofts, great stuff man

  • @mochiasdessert
    @mochiasdessert 2 года назад

    I'm still curious about THawk SFIV japanese arcade player that destroy Xian, the gameplay was so savage.

  • @deanbrooks7297
    @deanbrooks7297 2 года назад +3

    In this Mexican Typhoon we'll go over the attacks of T.Hawk.....

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Greetings Mr. Brooks, may I please know what is your nationality.
      Also, since you mention my nationality seeing as the SF character T-Hawk is from there:
      May I please know what is your earliest memory and/or history with my country of Mexico or with Mexicans or with Mexican culture as far back as you can possibly remember as a child or teenager in your native country?
      In other words how did you first learn about Mexico, Mexicans and/or about Mexican culture growing up?
      Perhaps your very first knowledge of Mexico/Mexicans/Mexican culture first occurred in school, or from watching the television, a movie, listening to a song, or perhaps your parents or other family members or friends or others first introduced you to anything relating to Mexico, Mexicans and Mexican culture for the very first time in your life? Or perhaps your very first knowledge of Mexico first occurred in some other way? I'm just curious, thank you.

  • @sharingan072
    @sharingan072 2 года назад +1

    I’m convinced

  • @MTR_Nara
    @MTR_Nara 2 года назад +2

    My boy T.Hawk, one of my favorite Native characters for sure!

  • @TSNMLitoFightingGamesPassion
    @TSNMLitoFightingGamesPassion 2 года назад +1

    USFIV T Hawk > SSFIV T Hawk any day lmaooo!!!
    The only ridiculous crime T Hawk had was having by far the easiest Combo Trials in SFIV! But Yes I Also play T Hawk!! More Thunder for the Hawk clan please!

  • @AegisRick
    @AegisRick 2 года назад +1

    SNES version of T.Hawk's theme is the best. Just had to speak the truth.

  • @soul71000
    @soul71000 2 года назад +1

    Hopefully he's brought back in SFVI.

  • @xxMorgen_Ronny_Doy
    @xxMorgen_Ronny_Doy Год назад +1

    The new SF6 Chars are made to modernize the classic Chars Luke is a mix of Guile and Ryu, Marisa = Zangief and Gill, Manon is a better Able with Mixed style and Kimberly is Guy with more Moves! Guy was not really completed Char ( i still love him! ) but Kimberly is more round. Street Fighter goes on higher Level and this is good. What you think of Lily who is obvious a Thunder Hawk successor. I beat the arcade just 1s before with T.-Hawk SSF2T theme on and i just imaginate she is T.Hawk and it worked well. Same way i hope we get the Protector of the Thunderfood Tribe in SF6 and the Story goes on with Juli. Hope we see her with a incrased move set and thunder food clothes also far from the Shadow Law look. ( as 2nd costume she could have his Doll Outfit ) and rofflemonger what do you think T-Hawk should wear as an outfit in SF6? Here are two ideas from my side: T.Hawk with a poncho or AN military outfit (omage an SFM) .

  • @madmaxim3965
    @madmaxim3965 6 месяцев назад +2

    Kinda a shame they basically replaced him with lily whos just not it

  • @charlesajones77
    @charlesajones77 2 года назад +13

    T Hawk's "uppercut" was projectile invincible in SSF2, and had massive forward range. Between that and the dive, he was a shoto killer. Which is probably why he lost that invincibility in SSF2T. Can't have a character that destroys shoto-scrubs.

    • @techmark3665
      @techmark3665 2 года назад +3

      Although any serious T. Hawk player is just going to use the cheat code to play as his old version.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Mr. Jones, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk?

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      @@techmark3665 Hey Mark, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk?

  • @rewrose2838
    @rewrose2838 2 года назад +1

    No wonder Ryu gave in to the dark side, Street Fighter 2 bullshit made him go crazy 😂

  • @Apocalythpe
    @Apocalythpe 2 года назад +1

    King T Hawk all day!

  • @theratking4629
    @theratking4629 2 года назад +3

    Thoughts on KI 2013 Thunder? Been maining the character for a year and a half now and he's definitely heavily inspired by T. Hawk in a number of ways besides design.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +2

      To be honest 99% of my thunder experience is with the old KI, I never played too much of the modern incarnation. That said I did like how they changed him up and turned him into a grappler with a sick fighting style.

  • @RaymonZX200
    @RaymonZX200 2 года назад +2

    My SF4 main I remember terrorizing my friends with him online and winning my very first local with him among a sea of Sagat's and Ken's.

  • @MikeHawk04
    @MikeHawk04 2 года назад +7

    He doesn’t even use his skateboard and they totally race swapped him. Thanks, SJW’s.

  • @stangarza7820
    @stangarza7820 2 года назад +1

    Man I didn't knew I needed a T.Hawk appreciation video on My subscription feed.
    I loved the man since I saw him in SSF2
    Hopefully he will show up in SF6

  • @superserg4763
    @superserg4763 2 года назад +2

    U think Terry Bogard and T. Hawk would be good friends? I mean they both got similar drip after all 🥰

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +2

      Terry Bogard is friends to all peoples, races, and creeds

  • @mr.noprobz3412
    @mr.noprobz3412 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for talking about the Thunderhawk, bro! I'm so tired of people calling him trash or a bad character... People used to call me a troll with him, and I'm like, "Dude, he's a grappler... Same reason you hate Zangief players." You broke it down with the FACTS, and people are just mad because he was broken in the 90s and STILL is OP lol.

  • @wizard5552
    @wizard5552 2 года назад +2

    All i can remember about t hawk is kojikog...

  • @Ripsterrr
    @Ripsterrr 2 года назад +2

    Hope T. Hawk makes it into SF6 for you! Easily one of the coolest grapplers in SF.

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Greetings Mr. Sterrr, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

  • @jellystarlight44
    @jellystarlight44 2 года назад +1

    So Alpha 3 has a cool little minigame for a device called the Pocketstation that you can get through certain means
    You can collect the characters level them up and make them fight like the original digimon games right?
    And T.Hawk is just objectively *the best one*
    The game gave him to me at the start and he's consistently been my MVP _for some reason_
    He has a lot of health and also hits really hard
    I unlocked S.Akuma, a bunch of other grapplers and heavy hitters and this guy is STILL better, overall just gaining levelups faster *AND I DO NOT KNOW WHY*
    So although i don't really play him in any game, he just waltzed into my life and made me like him, now i have a Xatu called like him in Pokémon.
    _(when t.hawk sleeps he's in a little teepee i just needed to point that out)_

  • @Snikit
    @Snikit Год назад +1

    Mained T-Hawk in the SFIV days. Made it into the top 500 on X-Box. I’ve hung up my controller, but T. Hawk made for one of my greatest gameplay experiences ever.

  • @rhavy6592
    @rhavy6592 2 года назад +1

    T.Hawk for SF6

  • @TehDompie
    @TehDompie 2 года назад +2

    It's such a shame, T Hawk is fun in sf4 but the way the universal mechanics like fadc work just didn't benefit him nearly as much as it did other characters. He could have really stood out and been a very special grappler if he made it into SFV, I can imagine cool v trigger stuff he could have

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +1

      T.Hawk in sf4 always been a great example of why universal mechanics are not universally good for everyone. He got so little out of focus attacks and fadc in general.

  • @pandabearmadness6263
    @pandabearmadness6263 2 года назад +1

    As long life street fighter fan you made me appreciate a character I don't really care for. I plan on picking thawk next time I play usf4 or ssf2 . Great video I liked your thawk video better

  • @MansMan42069
    @MansMan42069 2 года назад +1

    I still remember KojiKOG being a madlad and swimming the channel before Mexican Typhooning XSK Samurai

  • @shympek8627
    @shympek8627 2 года назад +1

    Cool, love grapplers, never gave him a chance tho, from street fighter always preferred Hugo cause of amazing design, I will try out t. Hawk in sf2

  • @Santafunk
    @Santafunk 2 года назад +1

    First time I got spammed by Condor Dive, I wasn't even mad. I was impressed. Never seen a charcter like T. Hawk 🇲🇽

  • @TheStrategist314
    @TheStrategist314 2 года назад +3

    New sub from JMs vid.

  • @vichyssoise80
    @vichyssoise80 2 года назад +3

    It's so weird, I never really paid much attention to T. hawk before, even when Super Street Fighter 2 first came out, but this video showed me some sincere appreciation for him. I think I really overlooked T. Hawk. I always loved playing Dee Jay (awesome normals!!) and Cammy, but left T Hawk to the wayside. It's a shame, too, because Hawk's got tools. He is quite fast, too, especially for a grappler!!

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Do you know what is T-Hawk's nationality without looking it up Mr. Soise?

    • @vichyssoise80
      @vichyssoise80 2 года назад

      @@bgonza2 I always thought Mexico came up on the select screen, if I remember correctly.

  • @slugbones
    @slugbones 2 года назад +1

    Yes. Hello fellow T.Hawk appreciators. We need to convince Capcom to give him back his gun.

  • @Sh8kS
    @Sh8kS 2 года назад +1

    omg my main lol Koji KOG putting me on him a few years ago. I wish his Omega version was his real version. He also had some of the best costumes in 4 i use to rock the buffalo pants lol ahh brings back memories

  • @glawrk2861
    @glawrk2861 Год назад +1

    I know his grappler options were super nerfed in SF4O, but honestly he's so fun there, maybe more than Ultra.

  • @Robert_D_Mercer
    @Robert_D_Mercer 2 года назад +1

    I wish big fighters had some form of forced mobility. The only chars I seen this done kinda right with was pokey from gg. he has a special that just flings him forward.

  • @MeanDeanHarrison
    @MeanDeanHarrison 2 года назад +1

    Definitely recruited me on this T.Hawk train…it seems he only likes to show up in even numbered SFs👀👀👀

  • @thundersquid5715
    @thundersquid5715 2 года назад +3

    Love it mane.
    We need our Indigenous Hawk man back in SF6, "Here is where I belong" 😢💪 damn right T Hawk!

    • @bgonza2
      @bgonza2 2 года назад

      Hey Bird, do you know what is the nationality of T-Hawk without looking it up now?

    • @thundersquid5715
      @thundersquid5715 2 года назад

      @@bgonza2 from my knowledge, storywise, he's native to a tribe in what is the US, but was relocated to what is Mexico due to Bison killing off his village. So technically during the series, his nationality is Mexican but his ethnicity is Indigenous to the region that the village he's from is in

  • @Renedoc82
    @Renedoc82 2 года назад +1

    Good video just one thing: the ones who have the age to remember ST never said that is wasn't brutal, it was the most broken game of its generation, and i love every coin wasted
    Saludos.

  • @KaosMasterX
    @KaosMasterX Год назад +1

    Once thought as a low tier character, O.thawk has become top tier thanks to technology and research/discovery!

  • @jojo95DK
    @jojo95DK 2 года назад +1

    I am convinced, I didn't care too much about T Hawk before, but man he's actually awesome

  • @guidomista5
    @guidomista5 2 года назад

    I mean, I was already on board when I knew that he was a big guy with command grabs, you didn't need to make a whole video about it (but why not)