Since very early on in my Walk with Jesus, some 50 years now, I just knew there was no Trinity. At the time, I couldn't explain my thinking, but as time has gone on, I've been able to understand the humanity of Jesus Christ, the Last Adam, as Scripture describes him. And while the first Adam was not God, but had an aspect about him that was made in the image of God, and so Jesus shares this same aspect of being made in God's image. And Jesus being like the first Adam could have given in to Sin, just as the first Adam chose to do. God on the other hand, according to Scripture, cannot sin. So why would Satan spend so much time attempting to trip Jesus up with various temptations if Jesus was God, and thus could never sin? I view the term Holy Spirit, God the Father, and God, to be words describing the same being. Some Gospels record the Holy Spirit meeting with Mary, but when Jesus is speaking of his Father, he always uses the words Father, and my God, and God my Father. And if the 3 members of the Trinity are to be co-equal, then why was Jesus limited to having access to only 12 legions of Angels, and not all Angels? And why is it that Jesus doesn't know when he will return, only his Father knows the answer to this? We are warned to be watchful for False Doctrines, and the Trinity doctrine is one that so many place so much value, even though few can explain the Trinity. And to speak against the Trinity is like slaughtering the Sacred Cow of Christianity! A good and informative video.
@CodeAndSuccess what do you think that quote from John 8 means? And can you explain from the text why it is the best interpretation? I think these passages below provide the right context and show that when Jesus said "I am he" / ego eimi / "I'm the one" he is claiming to be the Messiah. John 8:28 [28] So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me. John 18:5 ESV [5] They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am he.” Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them. John 4:25-26 ESV [25] The woman said to him, “I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things.” [26] Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am he.”
Who obtained the Church with his blood? Acts 20:28-29 “28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God,[a] which he obtained with his own blood.[b] 29 I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock”
This passage is ambiguous in the Greek. The best reading is that the church is God’s, and the blood is Jesus’. (As the person who obtained the church was Jesus, not God, and God doesn’t have blood while Jesus does.) And that is more consistent with unitarianism than trinitarianism.
But what did the apostles preach about the one who obtained the church with his blood ? If we read the FULL context of the apostles preaching read the type of words Peter uses Acts 10:34-40 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons But in every nation he that fears him and works righteousness, is accepted with him. The word which God sent to the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) That word I say you know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached How God ANOINTED JESUS OF NAZARETH with the Holy Ghost and with power who went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed of the devil for God was WITH HIM ( not is him ) And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem whom they slew and hanged on a tree HIM ( meaning Jesus ) God raised up the third day and shewed him openly.
The phrase *_"Can't see the forest for the trees,"_* comes to mind when I realize that the "Answer" has always (last 2000 years) been there. *_God's First Son was Adam, Christ is the Last Adam, Christ is the First and the Last, and Christ is the Alpha and the Omega._* PLUS, through Christ all things were made... *_"For by (or 'in') him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him"_* (Colossians 1.16, ESV). Perhaps, if we understand the mechanics of creation and prayer, we might see that in Adam consuming the forbidden matrix of dichotomy (in non-dichotomous Heaven) that Adam instantiated the entire physical universe, creating the *_Narrow Path_* from Heaven to Nature. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
Oh, the irony of idolatry! Revering a murder weapon! Instead of the cross, we need to see in our Hearts the Spirit of Christ and the One he Represents. God and Truth are non-physical -- THUS the Commandment against graven images. Even early Israel fell off the "Truth bandwagon" by insisting on a physical king to replace God. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
*_HUMILITY_* in Heaven is the *_opposite_* of Power on Earth. In fact, ALL 4 of God's elements which we have as malleable in us -- Love, Responsibility, Humility and Confidence -- find their opposites in Nature: * Space * Time * Energy (or Power) * Mass 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯 REFERENCE: *_Four Elements of God_* (hardcover, paperback and ebook; free to download from some sources)
@@MichaelTheophilus906 Well, actually, you made 2 claims: 1) No one goes to heaven. 2) That's another catholic lie. Curiously, your first comment in this thread has been deleted -- the comment to which my first response was aimed. Do you care to back up your claims? 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
God cannot be taken as "aloof" or "uninvolved" simply because He sent someone else to die. Human death, in and of itself, means nothing to God Almighty. He destroyed millions with the Flood, and thousands with fire at Sodom and Gomorrah. God cares for the *_children who look like Him,_* NOT the bodies they wear. Remember, everything born of flesh is flesh, and everything born of spirit is spirit; and God is spirit (John 3.6). 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
The *_obvious_* point which most Christians seem to miss is the *_Fundamental reason WHY God -- a spiritual being -- would be described as "masculine."_* This is metaphor! Male Plugs in electrical hardware, *_Give,_* while Female Sockets, *_Receive._* And we know that it is more blessed to Give than to Receive. This is why Christ, who gave the ultimate sacrifice is described as the *_Bridegroom_* and ALL of us -- despite our individual, human sex, are described as *_Brides._* 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
Please dont believe in those sick ideas. The oldest church, the orthodox church (which follows the traditions from the beginning) clearly teaches that the trinity exists. Who are you guys to distort the meaning and entity of Jesus Christ?
Do you have anything to say about the points raises in the presentation? Do the biblical authors show any indication that they believed that the one dying on the cross was also God?
@@biblefeed1094 John 1:1-4 ;14 1, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2, The same was in the beginning with God. 3, All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4, In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 14. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 10:30 30 I and the Father are one John 8:58 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM. John 20:28 28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Isaiah 9:6 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Titus 2:13 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ Colossians 2:9 9 For in him (Jesus) the whole fullness of deity dwells Hebrews 1:8 8 But of the Son he (the Father) says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. Matthew 1:23 23 “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” which means, God with us. John 5:18 18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. Hebrews 1:3 3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. 2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ Here you go. I also believed he was "just" the Son of God, not God himself. But if I were so smart, the Orthodox church fathers would have agreed with me. Yet they also agree on the fact that Jesus Christ is both the Son of God and God himself.
@@CodeAndSuccess we are told to put our trust in the Son and bow before him, who has been given all authority from God, all to the glory of God. Jesus is God's anointed king. Honouring the son is absolutely all the glory of God, not ignoring him. Philippians 2:9-11 ESV [9] Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, [10] so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, [11] and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
These ideas were already considered heresy at the time of the early church. Jesus was crucified BECAUSE he claimed to be God. You can believe he wasn't all you want, HE said it and was sentenced to death for this very reason.
*_Amen!_* The utterly humble, AND responsible, loving and confident sacrifice of Christ is all the power of Heaven! When we experience the Miracles made possible by Almighty God, we find that we have access to that power ONLY by mirroring these 4 elements of God in ourselves: * Unconditional Love, * Perfect Responsibility, * Utter Humility, and * Fearless Confidence. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
Greetings, Rod! =========================== =========================== "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20). =========================== =========================== No. We have access to that power only by being born again, from above, by the Spirit of God; the work of God, not the work of man. This is not something that we can do, but is the gift of God, by the mercy and compassion (Grace) of God. We can't make ourselves be born again, any more than we willed our way into existence in the first place. It's not of him who wills or him who runs but of God who shows mercy. It does not depend on our own will or effort, but upon God who shows mercy as He wills. We can "mirror" all we like, but in the absence of the Spirit of life, there is no life; in the absence of the Spirit of Truth, there is no truth. Such religion is therefore worthless and vain. =========================== =========================== "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth" (Acts 1:8). "For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy." (Romans 9:15-16). "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:8-10). "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever." (Deuteronomy 32:39-40). "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" (John 4:24). "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come" (John 16:13). "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." (John 3:3-5). =========================== =========================== Until Christ is fully formed in us all, -james
@@HeWhoHasSeenMe Thank you, James for your attempt to understand what I wrote. And in *_misunderstanding_* what I wrote you are correct to reject the *_misunderstanding._* Please reread one of your own quotes very, very carefully, again. "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" (John 4:24). This requires *_ACTION_* on YOUR part. Many can ask for the gift of God with deceit in their hearts. But are they worthy? Ego and body are nothing but shadows. Pieces of Adam broken apart the moment he consumed the forbidden dichotomy. Some pieces of the broken Adam will never be worthy, but it is their choice. Choice (action) condemns them because they reject the Gift from God. Some pieces are so broken that they trick themselves into believing up is down, and down up. And, in their certainty, hurtle headlong toward destruction, thinking it is Heaven. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
@@RodMartinJr Greetings, Rod! And thank you for your gracious response. I found your initial comments somewhat ambiguous, so to gain a better understanding of your perspective, I visited your YT channel, Facebook page, and WordPress site beforehand. In retrospect, I still don’t believe that I misunderstood your comments. Nevertheless, I acknowledge that I may be in error, and have left it to the LORD to judge the matter. Although I agree that action is required on our part, I think that you have misstated the case, if not outright misapprehended it. God does not work in us without us. But the action is His, not our own. Unless that is, you have not been born of the Spirit, as I previously commented, in which case, such actions would be dead works (i.e., works of the flesh). ======================== ======================== "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure" (Philippians 2:12-13). ======================== ======================== It is not the old man that believes unto righteousness, but the new, created in Christ Jesus, which is the work of God, not the work of the flesh. ======================== ======================== "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:8-10). ======================== ======================== Don't get this twisted, Rod. No man can do the work of God. ======================== ======================== "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent" (John 6:28-29). ======================== ======================== Until Christ is fully formed in us all, -james
@@HeWhoHasSeenMe Yet, Christ, a man, did the work of God. And yet, he could do nothing on his own, but only what he had seen God do. Yes, we BOTH have much, much more to learn. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
@@RodMartinJr Yes. And "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself" (2 Corinthians 5:19). Yet, if God was not in Christ.... =================== =================== "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life" (John 6:63). =================== =================== I repeat, no one can do the work of God but God. =================== =================== "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent" (John 6:28-29). "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Romans 4:5). =================== =================== Faith in Christ is counted for righteousness, TO HIM WHO WORKETH NOT. Translation: justifying ungodly sinners through faith is the work of God. It is counted as righteousness because it is not a work of the flesh (man), but the work of God. We are His workmanship. Until Christ is fully formed in us all, -james
Who said anything about Jesus being a sinner? Is there anywhere in the Bible that says that a sacrifice must be God to be effective? What do you do with all the evidence presented that demonstrates that *none* of the Biblical authors believed that the man crucified was also God on the cross?
@@biblefeed1094 lets help you out here animals were used as sacrifices to atone for sins - those animals had to be perfect, no blemishes, not just any old sacrifice to atone for mans sins in its entirety it would take a sinless person to be the sacrifice Since NONE IS GOOD BUT GOD, who else could be the sacrifice ? God is just, to judge us would have to be based on what we did wrong, not what we did right, and given we are all sinners, we would all be doomed to hell...If you don't understand the Gospel its probably a good time to study it What evidence do you have that Yeshua didn't die on the cross...the same people who think nothing created everything, believe in abiogenesis, evolution, lol even denying Yeshua existed...I find it funny that you guys will clutch at any straw
@Unique_Monk the problem with this idea is that there is nothing in the Bible that suggests it. Indeed, Hebrews 2 (amongst other places) suggests that the sacrifice of Jesus was only effective because he was a man. Hebrews 2:14-18 ESV [14] Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, [15] and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery. [16] For surely it is not angels that he helps, but he helps the offspring of Abraham. [17] Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. [18] For because he himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.
@@biblefeed1094 What, no evidence for what ? His sacrifice meant it saved us ? That he was sinless ? That he was crucified ? That he rose from the grave ? Seriously ?? 24Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your so 8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him
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Thank you Dan and UCA for such a great presentation.
I interprete it as "I am he (the Messiah)". God's plan for a Messiah (ie. Jesus Christ) predates Abraham since the Adam and Eve's Fall in Genesis.
Or more accurately, " I am the promise"
Since very early on in my Walk with Jesus, some 50 years now, I just knew there was no Trinity. At the time, I couldn't explain my thinking, but as time has gone on, I've been able to understand the humanity of Jesus Christ, the Last Adam, as Scripture describes him. And while the first Adam was not God, but had an aspect about him that was made in the image of God, and so Jesus shares this same aspect of being made in God's image.
And Jesus being like the first Adam could have given in to Sin, just as the first Adam chose to do. God on the other hand, according to Scripture, cannot sin. So why would Satan spend so much time attempting to trip Jesus up with various temptations if Jesus was God, and thus could never sin?
I view the term Holy Spirit, God the Father, and God, to be words describing the same being.
Some Gospels record the Holy Spirit meeting with Mary, but when Jesus is speaking of his Father, he always uses the words Father, and my God, and God my Father.
And if the 3 members of the Trinity are to be co-equal, then why was Jesus limited to having access to only 12 legions of Angels, and not all Angels? And why is it that Jesus doesn't know when he will return, only his Father knows the answer to this?
We are warned to be watchful for False Doctrines, and the Trinity doctrine is one that so many place so much value, even though few can explain the Trinity.
And to speak against the Trinity is like slaughtering the Sacred Cow of Christianity!
A good and informative video.
Thanks for watching, and some good logical thoughts about why Jesus cannot be God. 👍
@@biblefeed1094"Before Abraham was, I am".
@CodeAndSuccess what do you think that quote from John 8 means? And can you explain from the text why it is the best interpretation?
I think these passages below provide the right context and show that when Jesus said "I am he" / ego eimi / "I'm the one" he is claiming to be the Messiah.
John 8:28
[28] So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me.
John 18:5 ESV
[5] They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am he.” Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them.
John 4:25-26 ESV
[25] The woman said to him, “I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things.” [26] Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am he.”
Who obtained the Church with his blood?
Acts 20:28-29
“28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God,[a] which he obtained with his own blood.[b] 29 I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock”
This passage is ambiguous in the Greek. The best reading is that the church is God’s, and the blood is Jesus’. (As the person who obtained the church was Jesus, not God, and God doesn’t have blood while Jesus does.) And that is more consistent with unitarianism than trinitarianism.
@@lucaskaufman1725 that passage is addressed towards the end of the presentation.
But what did the apostles preach about the one who obtained the church with his blood ? If we read the FULL context of the apostles preaching read the type of words Peter uses
Acts 10:34-40
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons
But in every nation he that fears him and works righteousness, is accepted with him.
The word which God sent to the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
That word I say you know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached
How God ANOINTED JESUS OF NAZARETH with the Holy Ghost and with power who went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed of the devil for God was WITH HIM ( not is him )
And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem whom they slew and hanged on a tree
HIM ( meaning Jesus ) God raised up the third day and shewed him openly.
The phrase *_"Can't see the forest for the trees,"_* comes to mind when I realize that the "Answer" has always (last 2000 years) been there. *_God's First Son was Adam, Christ is the Last Adam, Christ is the First and the Last, and Christ is the Alpha and the Omega._* PLUS, through Christ all things were made...
*_"For by (or 'in') him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him"_* (Colossians 1.16, ESV).
Perhaps, if we understand the mechanics of creation and prayer, we might see that in Adam consuming the forbidden matrix of dichotomy (in non-dichotomous Heaven) that Adam instantiated the entire physical universe, creating the *_Narrow Path_* from Heaven to Nature.
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Reminds me of what someone once said, "If Jesus was killed with a shotgun, would you wear a shotgun on a chain around your neck?"
Oh, the irony of idolatry! Revering a murder weapon! Instead of the cross, we need to see in our Hearts the Spirit of Christ and the One he Represents. God and Truth are non-physical -- THUS the Commandment against graven images. Even early Israel fell off the "Truth bandwagon" by insisting on a physical king to replace God.
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Indeed, *_Christ is the IMAGE of God,_* for he was *_Created in the Image of God Almighty_* (Genesis 1.26).
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*_HUMILITY_* in Heaven is the *_opposite_* of Power on Earth. In fact, ALL 4 of God's elements which we have as malleable in us -- Love, Responsibility, Humility and Confidence -- find their opposites in Nature:
* Space
* Time
* Energy (or Power)
* Mass
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REFERENCE:
*_Four Elements of God_* (hardcover, paperback and ebook; free to download from some sources)
No one goes to heaven. That's another catholic lie.
@@MichaelTheophilus906 How so? I have my own take on this, but want to get your understanding.
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@@MichaelTheophilus906 You made a claim. Now do the *_obvious_* and back it up.
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@@MichaelTheophilus906 Well, actually, you made 2 claims:
1) No one goes to heaven.
2) That's another catholic lie.
Curiously, your first comment in this thread has been deleted -- the comment to which my first response was aimed.
Do you care to back up your claims?
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God cannot be taken as "aloof" or "uninvolved" simply because He sent someone else to die. Human death, in and of itself, means nothing to God Almighty. He destroyed millions with the Flood, and thousands with fire at Sodom and Gomorrah. God cares for the *_children who look like Him,_* NOT the bodies they wear. Remember, everything born of flesh is flesh, and everything born of spirit is spirit; and God is spirit (John 3.6).
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At 7m 7s, *_Brilliant_* chart and compelling logic.
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ABBA FATHER GOD did create the simplest of fabrics (waters,H²O) to sustain ALL forms of life here on earth
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Jesus last words …..
The *_obvious_* point which most Christians seem to miss is the *_Fundamental reason WHY God -- a spiritual being -- would be described as "masculine."_*
This is metaphor! Male Plugs in electrical hardware, *_Give,_* while Female Sockets, *_Receive._* And we know that it is more blessed to Give than to Receive. This is why Christ, who gave the ultimate sacrifice is described as the *_Bridegroom_* and ALL of us -- despite our individual, human sex, are described as *_Brides._*
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Please dont believe in those sick ideas. The oldest church, the orthodox church (which follows the traditions from the beginning) clearly teaches that the trinity exists. Who are you guys to distort the meaning and entity of Jesus Christ?
Do you have anything to say about the points raises in the presentation? Do the biblical authors show any indication that they believed that the one dying on the cross was also God?
@@biblefeed1094 John 1:1-4 ;14 1, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2, The same was in the beginning with God. 3, All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4, In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
14. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 10:30 30 I and the Father are one
John 8:58 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.
John 20:28 28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
Isaiah 9:6 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Titus 2:13 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ
Colossians 2:9 9 For in him (Jesus) the whole fullness of deity dwells
Hebrews 1:8 8 But of the Son he (the Father) says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
Matthew 1:23 23 “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” which means, God with us.
John 5:18 18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Hebrews 1:3 3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.
2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ
Here you go. I also believed he was "just" the Son of God, not God himself. But if I were so smart, the Orthodox church fathers would have agreed with me. Yet they also agree on the fact that Jesus Christ is both the Son of God and God himself.
If Jesus was "only" the Son, then Christianity wouldnt make much sense. Why put your faith in the smaller Son and ignore the almighty Father?
@@CodeAndSuccess we are told to put our trust in the Son and bow before him, who has been given all authority from God, all to the glory of God. Jesus is God's anointed king. Honouring the son is absolutely all the glory of God, not ignoring him.
Philippians 2:9-11 ESV
[9] Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, [10] so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, [11] and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
@@biblefeed1094 then believe what u want to believe.
These ideas were already considered heresy at the time of the early church. Jesus was crucified BECAUSE he claimed to be God. You can believe he wasn't all you want, HE said it and was sentenced to death for this very reason.
Did you listen to the presentation? Jesus was crucified because he claimed to be the Messiah, the king.
Where does it say he claimed to be God??
You clearly don't know history at all. Nor have you read ur bible honestly
where can you show me He said that?
*_Amen!_* The utterly humble, AND responsible, loving and confident sacrifice of Christ is all the power of Heaven! When we experience the Miracles made possible by Almighty God, we find that we have access to that power ONLY by mirroring these 4 elements of God in ourselves:
* Unconditional Love,
* Perfect Responsibility,
* Utter Humility, and
* Fearless Confidence.
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Greetings, Rod!
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"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20).
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No. We have access to that power only by being born again, from above, by the Spirit of God; the work of God, not the work of man. This is not something that we can do, but is the gift of God, by the mercy and compassion (Grace) of God.
We can't make ourselves be born again, any more than we willed our way into existence in the first place. It's not of him who wills or him who runs but of God who shows mercy. It does not depend on our own will or effort, but upon God who shows mercy as He wills.
We can "mirror" all we like, but in the absence of the Spirit of life, there is no life; in the absence of the Spirit of Truth, there is no truth. Such religion is therefore worthless and vain.
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"But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth" (Acts 1:8).
"For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy." (Romans 9:15-16).
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:8-10).
"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever." (Deuteronomy 32:39-40).
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" (John 4:24).
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come" (John 16:13).
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." (John 3:3-5).
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Until Christ is fully formed in us all,
-james
@@HeWhoHasSeenMe Thank you, James for your attempt to understand what I wrote. And in *_misunderstanding_* what I wrote you are correct to reject the *_misunderstanding._*
Please reread one of your own quotes very, very carefully, again.
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" (John 4:24).
This requires *_ACTION_* on YOUR part.
Many can ask for the gift of God with deceit in their hearts. But are they worthy?
Ego and body are nothing but shadows. Pieces of Adam broken apart the moment he consumed the forbidden dichotomy.
Some pieces of the broken Adam will never be worthy, but it is their choice. Choice (action) condemns them because they reject the Gift from God.
Some pieces are so broken that they trick themselves into believing up is down, and down up. And, in their certainty, hurtle headlong toward destruction, thinking it is Heaven.
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@@RodMartinJr Greetings, Rod!
And thank you for your gracious response.
I found your initial comments somewhat ambiguous, so to gain a better understanding of your perspective, I visited your YT channel, Facebook page, and WordPress site beforehand. In retrospect, I still don’t believe that I misunderstood your comments.
Nevertheless, I acknowledge that I may be in error, and have left it to the LORD to judge the matter.
Although I agree that action is required on our part, I think that you have misstated the case, if not outright misapprehended it.
God does not work in us without us. But the action is His, not our own. Unless that is, you have not been born of the Spirit, as I previously commented, in which case, such actions would be dead works (i.e., works of the flesh).
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"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure" (Philippians 2:12-13).
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It is not the old man that believes unto righteousness, but the new, created in Christ Jesus, which is the work of God, not the work of the flesh.
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"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:8-10).
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Don't get this twisted, Rod. No man can do the work of God.
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"Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent" (John 6:28-29).
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Until Christ is fully formed in us all,
-james
@@HeWhoHasSeenMe Yet, Christ, a man, did the work of God. And yet, he could do nothing on his own, but only what he had seen God do.
Yes, we BOTH have much, much more to learn.
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@@RodMartinJr Yes. And "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself" (2 Corinthians 5:19).
Yet, if God was not in Christ....
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"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life" (John 6:63).
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I repeat, no one can do the work of God but God.
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"Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent" (John 6:28-29).
"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Romans 4:5).
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Faith in Christ is counted for righteousness, TO HIM WHO WORKETH NOT.
Translation: justifying ungodly sinners through faith is the work of God. It is counted as righteousness because it is not a work of the flesh (man), but the work of God. We are His workmanship.
Until Christ is fully formed in us all,
-james
Yeshua is God - none is good but God
How could Yeshua be a sacrifice if he was a sinner
Who said anything about Jesus being a sinner?
Is there anywhere in the Bible that says that a sacrifice must be God to be effective?
What do you do with all the evidence presented that demonstrates that *none* of the Biblical authors believed that the man crucified was also God on the cross?
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lets help you out here
animals were used as sacrifices to atone for sins - those animals had to be perfect, no blemishes, not just any old sacrifice
to atone for mans sins in its entirety it would take a sinless person to be the sacrifice
Since NONE IS GOOD BUT GOD, who else could be the sacrifice ?
God is just, to judge us would have to be based on what we did wrong, not what we did right, and given we are all sinners, we would all be doomed to hell...If you don't understand the Gospel its probably a good time to study it
What evidence do you have that Yeshua didn't die on the cross...the same people who think nothing created everything, believe in abiogenesis, evolution, lol even denying Yeshua existed...I find it funny that you guys will clutch at any straw
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If Yeshua is not God, then by default, he had to be a sinner - you clearly are missing the blatantly obvious -
@Unique_Monk the problem with this idea is that there is nothing in the Bible that suggests it. Indeed, Hebrews 2 (amongst other places) suggests that the sacrifice of Jesus was only effective because he was a man.
Hebrews 2:14-18 ESV
[14] Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, [15] and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery. [16] For surely it is not angels that he helps, but he helps the offspring of Abraham. [17] Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. [18] For because he himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.
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What, no evidence for what ?
His sacrifice meant it saved us ?
That he was sinless ?
That he was crucified ?
That he rose from the grave ?
Seriously ??
24Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your so
8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him