Mike thank you for making this. My name is Joe Dowler and I am a small bag maker in Indiana. I’m new to the ACO market because the ACL was doing ACL stuff. I started playing in February and I was hooked! I am a type A OCD and I started doing research and testing and getting sewing lessons. I am not going to drop my bag names or Co. Name. (I do hope to get you some soon but that’s a different convo) 1. I completely agree with everything you said. I do call the “flat” “cylindrical” and I have acquired 4 different resin distributors and I see samples from at least two there. You do great research and have the correct contacts. A lot of it is kept secret. For the reasons you stated. I appreciate how thorough you are. 2. I agree w some of the comments. Hand feel is suuuupppeeerrr important and I’ve found that finding a happy balance between hole friendliness and hand feel is possible… but it is personal to person. I test the bounce of the different resin and like you have mentioned in other videos. Loose bags don’t bounce as much and I feel like bouncing bags play a little faster because there is less friction when they pop. (Less time on the boards) I think most of us “bag makers” or “bag designers” try to think of all these things. There is a lot of R&D that goes unappreciated. Some of us consider the types of throwers. Cutters, flat bag throwers, low and high throwers. I just wanted to thank you for being so detailed and informative. I think more companies will breed innovation. I know I am trying to do my part to bring new ideas to life and since I’m smaller I try to be more detailed than some of the mass produced guys. I liked all of B3s videos too and I recently opened up a set of bags. If you want my findings hit me up. I was SHOCKED! Single stitch. One fill. Single stitch closing…. Wild. Anyways. I hope I hear from you. If I don’t I will be reaching out about some bag reviews. I hope that is ok. Thanks again for all the great content
Thanks for some good explanations. I miss Andy's videos. I'd like to see more videos like this down the line. Some thoughts that may or may not be correct... Logically, I would think the flattest pellets should be called "flat" or "flat disc". The best terms for other fill is "cylindrical", "round", and "non-uniform" or "irregularly-shaped". I've been led to believe that "flat disc" fill is more hole-friendly than "cylindrical" fill because it has a layered cascading effect around the hole such as a waterfall. Also, "flat disc" fill is usually paired with smooth low-density pellets. This is because a 100% high-density flat disc bag will likely become too thin over time. The usually translucent low-density pellets add to the thickness or fullness while only slightly modifying the weight. Since the low-density pellets are smooth, that adds to the hole-friendliness. I would assume that low-density fill will also make the bag a little more bouncy. Also, a well-used bag will have a polishing effect on pellets with sharp edges and rough surfaces. An older bag will essentially have all smooth fill mixed with resin dust. This improves the hole-friendliness and can change the hand-feel.
The most informative Cornhole video I’ve ever watched. Thank you so much, Mike. I remember those comments, but can’t think of the bag. It’s going to drive me crazy until I find the answer 😤
great video mike! what a difference. i can tell that my brotherhood guardian r doesnt move as much as my reynolds thunder due to the fill. yes both have slightly different slow materials but I can tell the difference between those two bags. my kontraband kombats move more than the guardian r, even its a "slower bag", but because of that round fill the kombats play more active and move more up the board.
@@michaelminnie8925 It depends on the speed of the carpet material compared to the non carpet material. If the non carpet material is a slower speed, it will kick more. Plus, fill and flop will impact the kick of a bag. In my opinion, fill and flop have a bigger impact on the kick than the type of the material.
Two questions 😂 Do you prefer small beads or large beads. Do you have a recommendation for Hybrid medium template bag on full side with good amount of round.
Looking at the thumbnail the middle fill is Round.. so the bag you opened up does have Round fill in it. It might not be the circle fill but its still a round fill. Ball/round fill UFO/flat fill Marshmallow/disc Fill
Different resin is made of different plastics. Typically the flat and disc can produce “dust” after being thrown for a long time. The resin eventually rubs together polishing the resin smooth. I’d assume the bag making that much dust would be made of a very soft resin.
@@smartmex07I agree w this. My worry with that is… are your bags going to make weight down the road so I make my bags slightly heavier for my “L” spec bags to make sure they won’t be too light in a couple months.
I certainly wouldn't call that last bag as any round fill either. If you have obvious flat spots on it, it's not round. Round fill to me doesn't need to be a perfect sphere, but it would have NO obvious flat spots. So that last bag does not have round fill. They are wrong.
for me personally before getting into the video the most important thing about the bag next to speed is if the bag is comfortable with my grip
Same, if it doesn't feel right in the hand, then everything else doesn't matter
Mike thank you for making this. My name is Joe Dowler and I am a small bag maker in Indiana. I’m new to the ACO market because the ACL was doing ACL stuff. I started playing in February and I was hooked! I am a type A OCD and I started doing research and testing and getting sewing lessons. I am not going to drop my bag names or Co. Name. (I do hope to get you some soon but that’s a different convo)
1. I completely agree with everything you said. I do call the “flat” “cylindrical” and I have acquired 4 different resin distributors and I see samples from at least two there. You do great research and have the correct contacts. A lot of it is kept secret. For the reasons you stated. I appreciate how thorough you are.
2. I agree w some of the comments. Hand feel is suuuupppeeerrr important and I’ve found that finding a happy balance between hole friendliness and hand feel is possible… but it is personal to person. I test the bounce of the different resin and like you have mentioned in other videos. Loose bags don’t bounce as much and I feel like bouncing bags play a little faster because there is less friction when they pop. (Less time on the boards)
I think most of us “bag makers” or “bag designers” try to think of all these things. There is a lot of R&D that goes unappreciated. Some of us consider the types of throwers. Cutters, flat bag throwers, low and high throwers. I just wanted to thank you for being so detailed and informative. I think more companies will breed innovation. I know I am trying to do my part to bring new ideas to life and since I’m smaller I try to be more detailed than some of the mass produced guys. I liked all of B3s videos too and I recently opened up a set of bags. If you want my findings hit me up. I was SHOCKED! Single stitch. One fill. Single stitch closing…. Wild.
Anyways. I hope I hear from you. If I don’t I will be reaching out about some bag reviews. I hope that is ok.
Thanks again for all the great content
Yes, the flattest fill should be "flat" or "flat disc". The best terms for other fill is "cylindrical", "round", and "non-uniform".
Thanks for some good explanations. I miss Andy's videos. I'd like to see more videos like this down the line. Some thoughts that may or may not be correct...
Logically, I would think the flattest pellets should be called "flat" or "flat disc". The best terms for other fill is "cylindrical", "round", and "non-uniform" or "irregularly-shaped".
I've been led to believe that "flat disc" fill is more hole-friendly than "cylindrical" fill because it has a layered cascading effect around the hole such as a waterfall. Also, "flat disc" fill is usually paired with smooth low-density pellets. This is because a 100% high-density flat disc bag will likely become too thin over time. The usually translucent low-density pellets add to the thickness or fullness while only slightly modifying the weight. Since the low-density pellets are smooth, that adds to the hole-friendliness. I would assume that low-density fill will also make the bag a little more bouncy.
Also, a well-used bag will have a polishing effect on pellets with sharp edges and rough surfaces. An older bag will essentially have all smooth fill mixed with resin dust. This improves the hole-friendliness and can change the hand-feel.
The most informative Cornhole video I’ve ever watched. Thank you so much, Mike. I remember those comments, but can’t think of the bag. It’s going to drive me crazy until I find the answer 😤
It's herringbone and the review has 40 comments and it was 3 months ago lol
You nailed it with this video Mike! Thanks for the exceptional explanations.
OMG, the video I've been waiting for. Thanks sooo much Mike! lets goo!
I'll say for you mike. The bag he opened is WTF Alphas.
Thank You
Good informative video I always wandered what types of fill you were referring to
Cool! You could use this test to measure a feature of each fill. Maybe call it "spread."
great video mike! what a difference. i can tell that my brotherhood guardian r doesnt move as much as my reynolds thunder due to the fill. yes both have slightly different slow materials but I can tell the difference between those two bags. my kontraband kombats move more than the guardian r, even its a "slower bag", but because of that round fill the kombats play more active and move more up the board.
Awesome video. Can you tell us what fabrics kick the most and which ones are forgiving? Or make another video? Appreciate everything
Fabrics are simple. The slower the speed, the more it will kick and the faster the speed, the less it will kick.
@@MikesBags ok I just hear some ppl say certain carpet bags kick less than non carpet even tho both are the same speeds.
@@michaelminnie8925 It depends on the speed of the carpet material compared to the non carpet material. If the non carpet material is a slower speed, it will kick more. Plus, fill and flop will impact the kick of a bag. In my opinion, fill and flop have a bigger impact on the kick than the type of the material.
Great vid!
Two questions 😂
Do you prefer small beads or large beads.
Do you have a recommendation for Hybrid medium template bag on full side with good amount of round.
Looking at the thumbnail the middle fill is Round.. so the bag you opened up does have Round fill in it. It might not be the circle fill but its still a round fill.
Ball/round fill
UFO/flat fill
Marshmallow/disc Fill
This guy actually knows what he is talking about. If the opaque beads are flat, then I guess the Kardashians have flat butt's too. 😊
I love your content
Good stuff
Which bags have 100% bead fill ?
Killshot Sicarios used to, not sure if they still do
Why do my resin filled bags produce so much 'dust'? It's like powdery, white dust. What is that?
You got em Titan bags?
Different resin is made of different plastics. Typically the flat and disc can produce “dust” after being thrown for a long time. The resin eventually rubs together polishing the resin smooth. I’d assume the bag making that much dust would be made of a very soft resin.
@@smartmex07I agree w this. My worry with that is… are your bags going to make weight down the road so I make my bags slightly heavier for my “L” spec bags to make sure they won’t be too light in a couple months.
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You should call ‘flat’ fill - tubes
I certainly wouldn't call that last bag as any round fill either. If you have obvious flat spots on it, it's not round. Round fill to me doesn't need to be a perfect sphere, but it would have NO obvious flat spots. So that last bag does not have round fill. They are wrong.
You look like Tony Montana
Round is round lol. That bag maker is delusional lol.
Is that a reynolds bag ? lol