New 2023 Honda CB650R Review | Better than the CB750 Hornet?
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- New 2023 Honda CB 650 R Motorcycle Review / Specs | CB650 Buyer's Guide! Today, we're taking a closer look at the new Honda CB650R motorcycle, part of Honda's Neo Sports Cafe bike model lineup. A lineup of naked sport bikes / motorcycles that share a lot of attributes with Honda's CBR sportbikes from the CBR300R to the CBR650R. But with these new Honda CB motorcycles, you have the CB300R, CBR650R and CB1000R that all share the Neo Sports Cafe styling and sadly we still don't get the CB125R here in the US with the CB500F being the last CB to still have the "older" styling which makes you wonder... How much longer until we see a new CB500R? Back on topic though, in this video we'll dive into the new CB650R and its horsepower, weight, seat height as well as CB650 accessories with modified and customized CB650R bikes and a LOT more...
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They need to fix the 100 gallon trough in the middle of the torque curve.
My comment says what I think Kev. If you'd care to read it....
They should make it with a slipon.
I know sound emissions is a big subject in many countries.
I know that the underbelly exhaust need to be changed.
I have a 2021 cb650r and i paired it with a Miiv complete exhaust, but i just wanted more sound, and keep the Euro5 emissions.
We never got hornets in the USA
Can they do something about the price? 😄
I'll sum it up - Nothing has changed. Just the color.
Woooow 😂😂
Loooooool
Price ?
Had a CB125R, CB500F, Cb650R, I need to try the Thou’.
Great bikes, one of best headlights I reckon, very effective and noticeable when you see it oncoming.
The CB650R bodywork around radiator held rain water until tipped, was prone to gathering mud and water in the rear storage (2022).
Very easy beginner bikes, great fun!
Such a complete video 👏. Thanks man
That cb650r is gorgeous. The drab colour is an easy fix, i think it'd look dope in gold to match the front shock
Awesome video and editing on this really cool bike. I own a 2020 and it’s still a hoot to ride to this day in which I share my experience in my channel.
Very nice street fighter. I like the sweeping header pipes, and the headlight. Excellent video Kevin, ride safe.
Outstanding review. Thanks very much.
Wicked excited mine is coming in the beginning of April! I’m getting the black edition as that’s the only colour we have in Canada. I decided to go with the CB rather than the CBR. Love the looks of the CB better.
Looking to hopefully get this exact model for my first bike soon. In love with the look/sound/feeling. Everything about this bike is perfection.
Honda needs to come up with more colors options👍
Good looking bike … good review thank you 🙏
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A best video inspect of information'
I’m in love. Haven’t had a bike since my first kid. Think you just sold me on the one to get back in the game with.
Had my suspension professionally setup. Strongly advise it. Made a big difference.
Ohhh yeah, too many people think it won't make that big of a difference so they always scoff at the idea of paying to have it done but like you said - it can make a BIG difference! I used to think I was fairly good at setting mine up, until I had a pro do it at a track day and my mind was blown at just how crappy of a job I was doing lol!
Thanks for watching and jumping in the conversation too, to share your thoughts - appreciate it bud ;)
Take care and ride safe out there!
That header pipe just slays
Best video about the Cb650r so far
Being an ex owner of an original Honda CB600FS Hornet of 20 years, I think I am qualified to say that the CB650R should be the natural successor to the original Hornet and not a bloody twin cylinder 750. Back in the day, Honda made a CB250RS single. The new 750 should be called an RS and not a Hornet. It's a bloody insult to the Hornets great name in my opinion.
Great vlog though Kev, although you do sound like someones got you by the goolies......
I just purchased a nice single CB300R 2024. Very zippy. I like it!
great review. HondaProKevin gives us the info we want to know it nice compact packages.
The CB is a great looking bike. Not a fan of the Hornet or the GSx8 styling, but wouldn't be surprised if they sell well due to price.
Thanks for the video Kev.
I'm happy to see Honda hasn't stripped the copper colored engine accents. I know it's functionally irrelevent but I like the look of it. Seems it's being systematically scrubbed across the lineup though. So just black engine, variations of black for body colors. I think even Henry Ford would be ready for some color at some point.
That red was beautiful, seems like the paint is getting cheaper and cheaper on the new years.
I started riding street bikes in 1967 realized I needed "adjustment" (fork springs and oil, rear shocks in 1972). Of 26 street bikes owned at least 20? I think benefited from adjustments and changes. Motorcycles come one size fits all and a best guess profile for roads, riding style and temperatures. Back in the day half the motorcycles were sold in California, which explained a lot if you lived somewhere else.
One sport bike dialed in perfectly but it was the only"pure" sport bike I owned.
One with a reworked fork and shock (spring changes) worked fantastically well.
A couple never could get "right" for me.
I love the looks
Same here bud, same here!
As always, appreciate ya watching and jumping in on the conversation ;)
I bought this brand new a couple months ago. I'm enjoying it, no real complaints, minus a windshield... which I added.
Considering the high price it should come with a windshield
First of all thank you for this review about cb650r. I have a 2022 model cb650r black. I wish they could put cruise control on this bike would be better.
I really want this bike so bad! Love the look! 👍🏽
Yeeeeah buddy, she's easy on the eyes for sure!
Hopefully you're able to get your hands on one soon ;)
...and thank you for watching, jumping in the conversation etc. Really appreciate it bud!
The Design is on Fire 🔥
Interesting channel. I don't usually like the "I can't ride but I'll read you some stats" channels.......but you keep it very interesting, have great comparison points and solid information. When you posted all of the mid size honda motor stats together, all I could think about was, how fast could I get to the dealership if they put the hornet 750 motor in a cb650r chasis. You worked hard on this video and it shows. Thank you.
Naaaah, thank you... I really appreciate the kind words! I do put a lot of time into these and I know they're not everyone's cup of tea but I figured some might appreciate them in between the normal ride reviews etc that are out there. I'm not at the level yet to where I have access to be able to ride all of these bikes and to create ride reviews but hopefully that comes in the future so we can double up and have those mixed in with these so we've got all bases covered.
lol I hear ya bud! I'd say a lot of people are on board with you there. However, I'm a sucker for that four banger sound so we'd have to duke it out on keeping that around ;)
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To be honest with you... after a month of ownership of my new CB650R - im pretty happy with my Redhead (yeah its red lol) - only small details like how hard is to see the coolant level (althought you can grab the flashlight of your phone and put it against the tank behind it at a particular angle and you see it straight away) and the screen could be TFT for the price you pay - but other than that - perfect bike, so in love with her ❤❤❤
Can I have it ?
One of Honda s best looking bikes, the whole cafe racer line looks great from the 300 to the 1000(black edition)! But, with the new hornet coming in at 8 grand the cb650r seems a bit pricey, plus the hornet has updated electronics. The Hornet still not officially available. I guess you really gotta want a 4. Those exhaust headers are gorgeous! More color options would definitely be nice. Well done video Kevin
As someone who used to have the cbr650r, it's an EXCELLENT every day bike, I'm just very tall and wanted more leg room
@@Villani_AV lol😊😊
Hornet is just a parallel twin, though… so more of a zippy sewing machine than a screamer like the 650.
Unless someone comes up with a good looking aftermarket replacement I couldn't live with having to look at that Hornet headlight unit every day
hornet with 2 cylinder? no thank you
Sharp!!
Yessir, she's definitely easy on the eyes!
Appreciate you watching and jumping in the conversation ;)
Had mine a few weeks and love it, I'm about to demo the hornet in the next couple of weeks so till then.
The red option looks really nice, maybe they'll wise up next year
Thank God I will buy one for myself
The same options package Honda offers for the Hornet would make the 650r the perfect bike
I agree…why Honda has not put a full TFT display is beyond me. But then I can’t figure out why the US market has to wait and see if they will even be offered to us as in the case of the 750 hornet.
@@davidreed9300 Honda hates us? Have you seen the models that are JDM only? CB 1300 Super Four is beautiful
Well, I left out the part where at least in my state of Louisiana, Honda dealers won’t even let you take them out for a test drive. Seems the UK and the rest of Europe doesn’t have a problem. Just walk into a dealership and say “Hey, let me borrow a bike for a test run.” And they fall all over themselves getting it to you with mods and a smile. I love the 650 retro headlight and four banger, and would probably not mind the grand more it costs over the Hornet…..but the 650 has been out a long time and has by comparison to the Hornet, a shitty display.
For any pal thinking about getting one...go ahead!!
I own a 2019 and not a flaw 30.000 kms totally a keeper
How is it for longer journeys? Let's say heading off on the weekend for a tour, maybe 200km a day with luggage?
@@martinrea8548 well i haven't done any ride that long (longest could have been 120kms) stopping throughout the day and this distance is totally fine not a problem.
I have been riding it for 5 hours a day and just a litttle tired at the elbows but nothing to worry about.
Good review. 95hp 650 crazy
I just got back from the street and got to 30.000 kms, 2019 model not a flaw, even though I tend to think about the cb1000r i can't get enough of my bike 😊❤
Cars have had abs since about 1972, but heck, it’s only a new technology for the US. Here in Aus , it’s mandatory front and back, it’s a life saver. If you think your getting nipped in the US we only get a learners version with less than 50 hp, instead of 80. It stops me buying one here but I do love the style and that engine.
i don't need an inline 4 so i was excited about the new hornet but it looked cheap all around, so yeah, the cb650r would still be my fav honda. wish it had some upgraded electronics tho.
As a cb650r owner, I think Honda should put the cbr600rr engine in it, just like it used to with the hornet. The 650cc is great but imo it lacks aggressiveness
I've got the cbr650r 2021, honestly if you can just go for the 21 version, was the last year to actually receive decent changes. Usually cheaper too but really great bike absolutely love it, just wish the seat cowling wasn't around £200 from Honda themselves and around £150 from aftermarket dealers for official ones
Honestly I am going crazy.... I am looking at a 2020 used and a new 2023. If it's the same I think I'll go with the used one. Do you know if the fork setup is different?
@@karraral-bahathly6990 they updated a few things on the 2021 model so there's differences between the 2020 and 23, front suspension was one of them, so yeah they are different
got my seat cowl 50€ from internet.
@@N22I The cheap ones have not so good fit and finish, especially with colour matching, don't see the point in buying a cheap on if it isn't going to fit or match well
@@jakebrightman7678 hmm guess i was lucky, mine fitted perfectly and was the same colour. Altho black is easy colour to match.
Only thing that feels cheap is the "seat extender" that sits behind my lower back/butt, its completely plastic instead of, maybe leather in more expensive ones.
I want a more comfortable seat and I want a better display. Those are the two things that need to be improved across the board.
Man I like that jet black version of it. Too bad it’s not an option. Guess I get the 1000r. Now that one comes in black !
Real question is why dose the stock muffler look better on the 650 than the 1000 😑
Just hit 73,000 km on my 2020 CB 650 R
2nd valve clearance service done last week
Holding on to it until CBR 750 arrives and upgrade as my new commuter
Impressive milage, how much now in 2024, any problems?
@@gjj665j66 in January I got cut off by a car from middle lane to U turn. I’m still recovering from injuries. Bike was totaled at 85xxx km. Not a single problem until then
@@magmafist There is no safe place from these incompetent drivers...I wish you a speedy recovery.
Τhe F sells a good in S.Europe and this lovely R will do even better with the electronics and customising should become whatever is in the owners fantasy 🔥
I would love a 750 neo sports cafe with the engine and electronics of the new hornet!
I put $500 down on the bike in the fall of 2020. The dealership still doesn't know when it will come in.
Honda please give Minnesota some love.
BTW, UK/Europe get a Black Edition version of the CB650R. Looks pretty sick!
I'll buy this in the next 5 years
standardize to include the quick shifter for added joy in riding and the belly pan which will look more awesome and striking. planning to buy this beast.
Quick shifter lol i am a quick shifter waste of money. Been quick shifting for decades before you kid ever heard of it. Skilled riders can quick shift with just skill, silly kids need quick shifter gear indicator light blah blah. No skills
I'd take the CB over the Hornet any day. CB looks quality throughout. Hornet looks kind of cheap and somewhat generic. Was going to buy the CB, but a new black and blue Z900 was sitting next to it for the same price. Snapped p the Z. Very happy. Still think the CB is cool.
It’s overdue for a TFT screen. Read a lot of complaints that the regular LCD is difficult to read.
I like the round lights, the 500 and 750 should also have them. BTW Ford USA invented the all colors as long as it is black
I 100% wish Honda put this motor in an adventure style commuter.
where do you post the answers to the questions you ask at the start of each vid.???
Lovley bike! 👌 took my licenc on one, and my first bike was a 2018 cb650f.
I dont like the display! Too small, dark and not a very nice look. Why dont they use the same display as the new hornet?? Very funny video 😁👍
Paint option would be nice
What a row.
LCD in OLED 5Inchi ! and all the electronics on the cb 750
Great looking bike, already owning the CBR for track use, would love them to update the 500F to an R for my commuting needs - Agree about suspension set up, only for track, never bother with road, other than swapping out the fork oil/springs if it is dire - MT07 looking at you...
Nice bike but too expensive compared with the CB750 Hornet. The LCD dials look rubbish compared with the new Hornet’s configurable TFT dials.
Love Standard Mettalic Grey but it should have at least two other colours, suggest bright canary yellow and typical Honda Red but in mettalic
tft display and more aftermarket options like triumph or bmw does
It could have heated grips and cruise control. In addition to an update to the dashboard.
Thinking this might be my first sports bike thats not automatic. If anything this bike is perfect as is just needs more colorways. Id have mine blue with white rims and suspension leave the front fork grey, Maybe the same thing just have the bike red.
I have a Z900 and I adjusted the suspension settings on it. It was too soft in the factory setting.
If Honda made a cb750 with the hornet engine I’d own one in a heart beat
Yes.
Cb650 definitely looks better. But in terms of power delivery the hornet takes the cake
good review, it would be fine okay to slow down the photo pace a bit, had to backtrack & pause often to see some detail. also the little comedy inserts were mostly annoying for me.
2 x thing you need to know, exhaust is more restrictive for emissions and the intake is smaller than a 2019.
That’s my bike ❤
Oh! To have my 71 cb750 k2!
The only thing Honda needs to change on the CB650R is to give it an extra 7 to 10 HP and an extra 10 Nm but at 6000 RPM. That's it!
I ride with people who have LED turn signals and they don't seem bright enough to me.
I really need them to bring the all black edition to the US
They need better placement for the swing arm spools
The pillion seat is rock solid brick 🧱 need more cushioning for passengers
So it's basically the same as the 22 model?
Please give us all red and yellow color schemes also. Thanks.
IMO Honda did its middleweight backwards. They should have made a 4-cylinder 750-900cc and a 2-cylinder 650-700cc. Should have been a CB650R (naked), CB750 Hornet (naked) and CBR750 with fairing (maybe call it an Interceptor, but not as fat as the old Interceptor), maybe a CBR650R (faired) as well. All of them should have been very street oriented, the only difference between naked and faired would be the fairing, no power difference, no drive line difference, and minimal if any ergonomic difference. I know it's too late for them to reverse this now, it'll be at least 5, probably 10 years before they could implement my idea even if they wanted.
Bro this Honda better or Yamaha mt 07 and Kawasaki z650??
At least Honda made the only color option a nice color. It is a good looking bike. Has the hornet been confirmed for the us? As good as the CB650 looks, the hornet definitely looks better to me.
lol you nailed it there, if they're going to give us only one - it better be one of the best! I do like the blacked out version though, the "mini-me" of the CB1000R Black Edition but... that can grow old pretty quick and the way this matte gray metallic looks so different depending on the lighting, it'd be hard to get tired of looking at it. I would like to see them sprinkle some more of that paint on the rest of the bike though to see how it would look in place of some of the contrasting colors they use on this platform.
Sadly, American Honda has yet to make it "official" for the Hornet. It's going to be interesting to see what the Hornet does to the CB650R sales, being cheaper and bringing more to the table - minus a couple of cylinders of course. I'm on the fence when it comes to looks between the two, from some angles I think the Hornet looks better but it's vice versa from some other angles. I really want to ride that thing though to see if that engine in that package sways me away from my love for a four-banger and the sound of it at full tilt as normally I would sacrifice a lot - just for the sound. American Honda needs to hurry up though, I wanna ride this thing... like yesterday lol!
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I love my 2018 650 f.
Please geek about these engines .. please .. went through the website kinda hard to find the engine geek out page.
I had a 2021 model. My observations. The screen was unreadable in bright sun. The engine was buzzy at 70mph. The suspension was terrible. The gearbox was terrible. The rear brake pedal assembly seized up due to corrosion and poor design. It developed an oil leak that took the dealer 3 times to fix. All of this with less than 2K miles on it. Safe to say I sold it.
Thank you for reading out all the marketing guff and specs from the Honda website. You missed something important out…what’s it like to ride?
The US needs bikes with color on them....not just primer.
Need to have an option to install auto blipper. Cb650r need to come with ride by wire technology
They really should add the 500 to this lineup and ditch the parts bin headlight assembly
Yeah buddy, I'm with you there! I'm genuinely surprised we haven't seen that happen yet with ALL of the other CB-F models making the transition to the CB-R with the Neo Sports Cafe styling. Unless their goal is to keep the CB500F and CB750 Hornet looking somewhat similar to each other with that naked bike styling and leave the Neo Sports Cafe styling for the others so you've got two different "styles" of naked motorcycles to offer up at the end of the day. Which kinda makes sense as not everyone prefers one specific style but still, I'd like to see a CB500R with this styling lol!
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A cruise control module and heated grips
Honda CB650R VS CB750 Hornet... Which would you buy?
American Honda hasn't released the CB750 Hornet yet so we don't have "official" pricing but around the world, the CB750 comes in at approximately $900 less than the CB650R. So... would you save the $900 and go with a lighter package but lose the four-cylinder engine?
Personally, I'd go the CB650R based off the engine alone but... I really need to ride the Hornet before I could make that decision, just to see if that twin can change my mind. I don't see that happening but I'd be open to having my mind changed if Honda wants to ship one over to me lol! Curious to hear what you guys think though and the split between the two models...
I have a 2018 cb650f and I would not want to part with the inline 4 for a twin. I love the smooth easy power, and the sound of the 4 cylinder winding out is intoxicating 🙂.
The price for cb750 hornet is around $500 AUD MORE than for cbr650 in Australia 😂😂😂
I would go for cb650 and it for sure has true Hornet legacy.
If round headlight and I4 engine is a game changer then go for cb650r. On the other hand hornet has more torque, is lighter, rear tire is narrower (drawback for racetrack) resulting in a nimble package. Optional accessories are better with this model making it more universal bike (it is even possible to mount full size side cases from HB). Some people say "why oh, oh why new hornet doesn't have 4 cylinder engine and round headlight like original" Few reasons: emissions, there is such bike in lineup so making another with 100cc bigger engine makes little sense and also main rivals for cb750 are NOT 4 cyl retro styled bikes (mt07, gsx-s8, trident, z650). If you compare this bike to competition and give it a go you may be positively surprised. I am moving from FJR1300 and was looking for some nimble motorcycle to ride around the city and some short trips. After checking all the possible options cb650r looked like a no brainer for me but in the end I have chosen hornet which is more universal, lighter and with up to date electronics. For a second bike for fun cb650r may be still a better option.
@@m4ci3j72 I get your point, and I'm far from typeing whitch bike is better. Just wat to say that honda made wrong decision with name of their bikes. Cb650r is natural evolution from previous hornet bikes , and that is how it should be named. New Hornet is nothing like previous Hornets, and it shoul be named CB.
I wish that we could have a good TFT display 😅
probably a scrambler 4 cylinder would get more market here in PH where we are stucked to Ducati and Triumph, which is overpriced for it's purpose, I think Honda with 4cyl will make a killing.
Nitty-gritty-geek details are sweet to read in the website 😊
If you are around 160 pounds you will never have to play with your suspension because most bikes are set for that default weight