2023 Honda CB650R Black Edition | The coolest 650 on the market?
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2023
- 2023 Honda CB650R Black Edition | The coolest 650 on the market?
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Still one of the best road bikes in the world. Reliable, fast, sounds good, smooth, great handling, well priced, looks good. 👌👍
The only thing missing is a balance shaft for the engine to keep the buzz down past 5500-6000
@@233kosta and a comfy seat for both rider and pillion.
looks good ? looks like a 250 cc toy or retro waste
@@whatdaftheydoinovader liking or disliking is totally subjective. The way we express our liking or disliking shows who is a decent person an who is a moron. This is not your cup of tea? There’s plenty of alternatives. No need to tell the world you are an arse.
Well priced? Eh not so sure
I've had a CBR 650R from new for nearly 4 years now, and the engine vibrations disappeared after 5,000 miles or so. I'm about to trade her in and she's been faultless in true Honda fashion, starting on the button every time. The build quality can't be faulted, either, as she looks as fresh today as the day I picked her up. One recommendation I would say to anyone buying this bike is to bin the OEM Dunlop tyres. I put Metzeler sportec M9RR's on and they made a huge difference to the feel of the bike, especially in winter.
My old, creaking shoulders can't take the riding position any more, I need something more upright, and that's the only reason I'm trading her in. I'll be sorry to see her go, but a ride without pain is something I'm looking forward to on my new Suzuki GSX-S 1000 GT.
Its odd something like vibration from the engine would end after several thousand miles.
Good choice
Vibration went away? Interesting.
Yeh I went with Angel GT 2 all round. (Daily bike even in winter).
I do miss my 2019 CB. Never let me down, much more versatile than a CBR especially when filtering. I do miss it but the new owner and me are friends. It's still well loved.
Loved it, fun, easy to ride.
However the brakes are a bit of a letdown if you try anything with proper brakes.
Sold and now ride a tdm900. 2009
wait what? My 2020 CB650R came with Metzelers from the showroom. Maybe they started cheaping out on rubber?
@@john_barnett those Metzlers are very hard wearing, but not the most sporty tyre, even in the dry I've had loss of grip. Of course there are other tyres in the Metzler range too that are great. But the stock ones aren't them.
Love the vid. I was a hairs width from pre ordering one of these as my first big bike. It looks awesome.
Nice one Dan - great to see your having a good time on this fantastic machine. Know what you mean about the vibes.
Wow i was just this minute checking out this bike and here you are with the upload. lol Great minds think alike! The only thing I wished to see updated would have been a tft. Ride safe and enjoy mate😎🍻
It's good to have you back and active again! Looking forward to all the stuff u have coming up. Please don't forget your promise to upload some interesting SV650 stuff. Cheers mate, great stuff as always!
As soon as the weather is dry I'll bring the SV out. Cheers! 👍
Another great video as ever Dan. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the hornet in comparison!
Riding one with my riding school ready for my Mod 2 - wow rather twitchy on throttle and great acceleration! quite light as well and I can flat foot it - important for me after 2 strokes! Loved it!
Good to see this review and really looking forward to your comparison with the new Hornet - thanks
"Blooming gorgeous" and "silky in-line 4": two things that cannot be said of a single competitor. I've never wished for riding modes on mine. And the retro-tech cable throttle doesn't come with the on / off snatchiness of so many ride by wire systems. I agree that the black edition is the best looking version to date, though I do miss the bronze engine / clutch casings. I think they would actually look really good with the black. Doberman style. ;-) Looking forward to the Hornet comparison!
I thought like this until I test rode the Hornet, I bought a Hornet straight away and I’m never having an inline 4 again. They’re boring at low speeds and vibrations are terrible at high speeds. The Hornets engine is fun at low speeds and no vibrations at high speeds… and in my opinion sounds so much nicer.
@@DavidSmith-hn5gg you're welcome to your opinion, but the 2-3 upshift north of 10k rpm is never boring to me. Number of times I have been bored on my bike = zero. And I never have to feel like I'm riding an alien insect. Different strokes.
I agree, i couldnt care less for ride by wire, what does it give us ? Ridding modes, what do i need them for, i just want ONE good mode, and even this bike dosnt have that. ECU tune and all is good.
@@DavidSmith-hn5gg No doubt the new Hornet engine wise is better, id wish i had that engine in my CB650R. For me it's just the looks isnt good with the new Hornet, it looks dated already in a not good way. I dont even think the looks they went for ever was popular around here. Imagine they keept the looks of the CB650R, keept the 180 rear tire, but put in the new sweet 750 parallel twin, now that would have been a smash hit.
Parallel Twins belong on either very large or small capacity bikes. These middle weight twins are awful. Fair play to Honda for keeping the straight four engines alive. Anyone who thinks that they don’t have power down low have obviously never ridden one properly.
I also had a 2019 model and I also kind of miss it. The fuelling and general smoothness on that engine are truly something special.
i dont think the fueling is anything special on my CB650R, it's just less crappy than many other new bikes, certainly has it flaws, a flat spot around 6000RPM, and ON/OFF fealing at low RPM's, could be alot bettter. I had bikes from the 90's that had superior fueling to this 2019 Honda.
@@MissMan666 that's fair. The CB and an Er6 are the only bikes with cable throttles that I've ever owned, so I don't have much to go by.
Yeah that engine sound is just silky smooth and nice.
I did my DAS on one of these and it's a brilliant bike for a learner, very stable, very smooth and not too powerful low down. I was going to get one as my first bike but ended up with a Trident.
I’m 41 and pondering over wether to take the DAS route or go with CBT and use a 125 until ready to step up. I just know that I’ll probably end up getting bored of the 125 quite quick. How are you finding the trident with being a new rider?
Great review Dan, you can tell within the first minute how much you love this bike. I can just tell you were smiling the whole time. Theres a lot to love about this bike. If I had a garage then I think I'd have it as a second bike. For now I'll keep my triumph bobber 😊
Just got me one of these tho just the regular version. Absolute blast of a bike to drive
@1:13 "Woohoohoo... oh how I've missed you!" Get a room! 😂😂🤣🤣 Insightful review as always Dan!
Great Review and I have a CBR 650r 2019 and I Love it I definitely want to get a exhaust and open her up so she can really sing…
It's a dream bike of mine!! Esp in the colour Dan had!!
So cool they made a Black Edition for this bike finally.
I think Ive have just had an accident in my trousers! I didnt the think the CB650R would look any more sexier than it did but oh my!! What a sexy beast. I love the black edition. In my mind you cannot beat that inline four roar! it sounds so good and packs a good punch. 94hp is perfect for the roads. I love it. Great video Dan 👍
Thanks mate, it was good to ride an inline 4 again!
My dream bike, still saving for it hopefully I will get it in the next two years 😂
Hey Dan, 3 years later my CB 650 R just hit 73,000 km. Picked her up after 2nd valve clearance service last week.
She is 1 tough bike. Not a single problem all these years. I saw the Black Edition in the show room, sold like crazy
I'm thinking about switching to a sport bike -> waiting for CBR 750 to be revealed later as I'm a fan of 270° twins. If all else fails, I can always retreat to a CBR 650 R. The wind has been killing my necks after 3 years of touring with naked bike man.
when did you get the first valve adjustment done?
Wait there's a 750 v-twin sports bike coming from honda?? I need to do some googling...
@@cloverfield1006 Valve clearance for 650 R is every 36,000 km
Oil change, Brake Fluids, Radiator Coolant, Chain-Sprockets, Brake-pads, Fork bearings, Rear wheel bearing, chain-lifter, Fork Oils (requested),
Battery every 2.5 years, but changed to a lithium that will last double
Spark Plugs changed at 72,000 km, 1st time (so tough)
@@Kaeresh The newly revealed Hornet 750 is a 270° parallel twins naked bikes
I'm just waiting for the full fairing sport bike CBR- same engine
@red bike chr. Sports bikes are over rated for the streets. Get a super naked. You'll have more fun. I'm selling my 2019 cb650r blue with 11k miles for £5000. Any takers in London? The best bike so far
Yeh, I'm never getting rid of mine, I f-cking LOVE it!
Good stuff. I too love the engine and sound, and would love to hear another exhaust on it. You might be on to something there, with the inline 4 making way for the parallels.
Right. Straight answer Dan....2023 one of these...or a 2023 SV650. Go!
love this bike since I got it in 2021. one reason being your awesome reviews. keep up the good work!
I got my Black Edition CB650R last Tuesday and these are now limited to 160 units in the UK which come with the sports pack added 😃 mine was 22/160 for me this is my first bike and it's beautiful to ride.
Hi Richard, congrats on your new bike, what colour is the quickshifter, chrome or black?
@@mikekirwin3720 Hi Mike unfortunately the quick shifter is still chrome along with the exhaust but everything else is black
Chrome here too.
Loved this video I’ve just bagged myself a 2019 version like you had is there anymore videos from where you went to Germany as I can only find the one 😢
Just picked up my 23 black edition yesterday. Its an absolute gorgeous bike and rides amazing
Congrats on ur new bike, is the quickshifter mechanism finished in chrome or black?
Does it have quickshifter?
@@ezemotoride Yes it does
It doesnt have a quickshifter from the factory at least mine didnt as a canadian but am able to get one from my dealer
@@ezemotoride chrome. Should be black.
Fully grown man getting giddy like that, you know it’s fun.
I have a black edition one they are really good bike. I love it
Black wheels and engine cases aswell.
Yep, I really enjoyed mine...but after discovering the KTM 690 Duke I never touched the Honda again. So off it went!
But that knee business. I lowered my footrests 20mm with some steel plates with offset holes. Easy operation and made a big difference.
Thank you Dan!
Nice one dude
I love my MY21 in red. It was bought after previously owning the CB125R and watching, among others, your personal review and ownership videos.
Mine came with Dunlop's fitted. Personally I think the all black edition is drab. Much nicer with the bronze looking engine and wheels and gold fork uppers.
PS it is a lovely bike to ride slow or fast. I agree that riding very long distances can become tiring and you get achy butt when wearing jeans in summer months.
Last 2 years ago (2021) already released for CB1000R Black Edition and you have reviewed for that bike👍... and now comes to its "brother" (CB650R) for the black edition... nice ride bro.🔥😎
It's a nice bike. When you got going I thought that would look nice with the gold coloured engine cases, then you showed the older version to prove I was right🤗
The non-black edition still has the gold forks and engine covers.
still love my 2018 cb650f, runs and looks like new,never missed a beat. was thinking about the new hornet but wouldn't give up the 4...dave
My 2023 CB650R black edition will be here next week! Can wait!
It's been over a year....how ya liking it?
@@Tex-rg1hn dude im absolutely loving it. I got just over 10k kilometres on it. It’s got more than enough power to get you in trouble. But still calm enough for newer riders to learn on. I wouldn’t recommend for a very first time rider. But someone who grew up on dirt bikes or something would be perfect!
6:30 These chrome-like badges are also on my little one cylinder CB125F and despite it being not the most eye catching motorcycle in the world, you notice chrome Honda badges right away.
Nice review. Looks great. It really appeals to me, mainly because of that i4 which is oddly a rarity now. The styling is also great & makes me wonder how can Honda''s styling department can come up with this & then a "new" bike that looks like a dated generic old CB something like the Hornet? Imagine if the new Hornet looked like this for 7k. Honda wouldn't be able to make enough of them.
It remains to be seen what the new Hornet will go for here in the States.
Pretty bike! I just bought its little brother, the 2023 CB300R and I love it for casual exploration on rural back roads--peppy little thumper. I looked at the 650, but I don't think I could ride it without getting naughty, hehe. Yeah, small-block fours are wonderful engines. A couple of lifetimes ago, I owned a Kawasaki GPz550 that was otherworldly smooth. Thanks for a great look at the Honda@
Nice, enjoy your 300. 👌
Thanks for this great review! Deciding between this and a Z900 for in-London commenting and weekend getaways into the country side. Any comments on those choices?
Love this Black Bike… 🥲
This looks better to me then the new Hornet 750 and seems to be a more obvious successor to the older Hornets but yeah, the market wants something else.. and I want a round headlight. :)
Agreed. It looks miles better & also completely agree if this is in Honda's range, why isn't it called the Hornet instead of the 750? Makes no sense given the original Hornet.
I agree, she's an absolute stunner in the Black Edition.
@@ragerider6283 Yep. I've owned the 2008 Hornet and already thought that was a step back in design (too futuristic for me) compared to the older one with the round headlight but it was an amazing bike to ride and I have zero doubts that both the new Hornet 750 and this CB600 are still top notch. But yeah, the Hornet seems so cheap and built to a budget, I need to see what it looks like in person. Even the latest gen CB500F and X seem like higher end bikes when looking at them now.
The CB650R with the hornet engine would be a monster!
@@dbauernf new hornet is basically a cb500f....
at least based on the look.
And the headlight kind of reminds me of old ktm dukes, though I have nit seen one in recent time, so that might not be the case if I compared pictures, but ah well I'm lazy right now.
I do miss an inline 4. I have an MT07 now and really love it for some spirited riding but I don't care for the 2 cyl. sound. These bikes are meant for a little bit of a tickle every once in a while for me. The MT07 does that job very well but there seems to be something missing. I have entertained getting a ZX6R but that may be a little bit to much of a tickle for a 69 year old man would want. I know the throttle is the control. i've been riding long enough to have owned Z1 when they first came out. I know how to control a throttle. I owned a Triumph Street Triple in 09 and wouldn't put it up until I reached triple digits on it. Not great for a long ride but it sure tickled me. I got rid of it because oil seepage around the valve covers. The KZ900RS is just too heavy and tall for me. I love the look though. This Honda seems to check the boxes that I have.
Love that blue and bronze contrast more
Yeah def the best colour.
Thanks for making this video Dan. I've been waiting for a decent review of the new black edition. Its an awesome looking bike but now i have a problem... i don't know whether to get this new black edition or the matt black version of the Trident... love the look of both bikes... which would you go for??
Definitely Honda. Gets older better
Like the black forks, sick of those yellow ones they stick on everything these days.
Lovely bike gloss black tank like 1000 would have looked better, we don't get black edition here in the states anyway. That 4 cylinder! No hornet here yet either. Thanks for the update Dan
Everything about this bike is definitely great! No doubt about that. Except it's price in the Indian market, which is downright ridiculous 😢
Hi Dan, quick question about the insta360 you use, do you both with the vibration damper or just mount straight on the bars? Got one arriving tomorrow. Love the videos by the way!
Straight on the bars. Although now my X2 camera stops recording randomly so seems it's broken.
Having owned an original 600 Hornet for nearly 20 years, in my humble opinion this bike the CB650R is the natural successor to the original Hornet. Apart from looking like the Hornet, this bike sounds like it and performs like it too. Personally, I find the 750 an afront to the good Hornet name......
Yep, exactly why I bought the CB650R in 2019. I've owned every generation Hornet 600 over the years. Still, I have to admit the engine is hilariously fun on this.
They ought to have called this the Hornet instead of the twin CB750. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
I agree, I had. 2010 600 Hornet same looking exhausts, a belter of a bike. Think it even had a smidge more power than the 650s.
I’m a sucker for a blackout edition. 👍🤪🇨🇦
i wish they could make one that looks even more retro, like the older CBs.
They do
Nice bike
So much nicer than the new Hornet to look at.... although I'm not a fan of matt paint.
Hey brother does the exhaust noise get to your right ear...is it annoying during reving.? I had a fz6r from Yamaha which I just adored..had to get rid of it due to placement of underslung exhaust.
I had a CBR650R. Regretted selling it, but it was to economise so didn’t have much choice. My missus and I do miss the cheeky and ironic “Marilyn Monroe” looks to camera when on the bike!! Always had us in stitches.
Definitely the best 650 mid range motorbike and better than most 750s
Ive started doing lessons for my full licence, and this is a potential candidate for a first bike
Good luck with the lessons and test!
oiu, you got a liocense for that ?!@@Englishbikerdan
Hello will this exact color (with the black pedals as well like yours) be available for the CB650R 2024 edition? I would want to buy this one as my first bike, and it would be nice to get the updated electronics 2024 version but getting also this exact black version of the bike
Differences between this and the “old” model 2019-2020?
Will there be any problem using a sc project slip on for cb1000r on cb650r?
I've never understood your comments regarding the seat on this bike. I've done 6000 miles on mine and I think the seat is very comfortable. It warms up and feels just right to me. And apparently I've got no arse, so I'm told.
People experience different things. It was not a comfortable seat for me at all.
Wish they had the screen buttons on the handle bar
Nice to see Blackbushe.
I got red one like a month ago and i love it
Nice bro!
I just picked mine up yesterday do you by chance have one rear turn signal brighter then the other?
@Bluejackets70 I'm pretty sure my turn signals are working just fine
If the exhaust pipe also painted with black matte, maybe it looks more style 🔥😎
Please do a comparison of lightweight motorcycles 🎉
I'm 5 foot 6, with 30 inch inseam.
Do you think ill be able to flat foot it?
speedometer is displaying in KMPH or MPH?
I currently drive a Honda PCX 125cc but just ordered a CB650R grey metallic yesterday (it will be my first big bike and should be here in about 3 months) and while I agree that the Black Edition is beautiful, I prefer having bronze engine cover, wheels and front fork. Looking forward to the comparison video between the CB650R and the CB750 Hornet! Thanks for the amazing video Dan 🖖
Enjoy your beautiful bike!
@@steveparish9210 thank you my friend 👍
Enjoy!!
@@agustinrueda3241 thank you my friend 👍
So? How is it compared to your PCX?
Im in the exact same situation (PCX, switching to big bike), but cant decide which one yet 😂👍
Almost bought one of these recently. The only reason I didn't is because there is no deals on them and Kawasaki was offering great deals on the Z900 :) I still may want the CB650R more, money aside. It just ticks all the boxes, minus maybe having no adjustment in the forks
In the exact same boat. Got run over on my cb300r and was fortunate enough to have witnesses that ensured a nice payout. I’ve been looking at both the cb650 and the xsr700 but the dealer has a new ‘23 z900 for $8000 US and I feel like I can’t pass up a deal like that. How has yours treated you?
@West Great so far. Still in the break-in period. Haven't even dialed in the sag yet. It's on the to-do list. Definitely need a flash tune or power commander to smooth out the herky-jerky throttle though
Hi mate. Great video as always mate.
I have a CB650R which I owned now for a year but I’ve put a deposit down on the 23 Street triple RS. How would you compare the two mate? Thanks
Very different beasts. But then the ST-RS is almost £4k more.
Hi there. Went for a test ride yesterday. And love the bike since day one. But one thing that stress me out is the fact that my wrist were hurting after 20min. Probably putting too much pressure on them. Let me know what you think
Is there any different with the engine of the 2023 version compare to 2022 version? On the website of honda, 2023 has only around 83hp but at 10k rpm, and I cant find any information about this change with their engine. If I remember correctly, 2022 version has around 94hp at 11k rpm.
Why is the black edition not available in the US? :(
Gr8 video and a gr8 bike, I had a 2019 matt Black CBR650R - however I had the opportunity to trade it in for an electric bike and wanted to experience a different type of riding. I would consider going back to petrol bikes so as not to lose the skill of riding a manual bike, but if the media is to be believed, petrol motorcycles like the CB650 black may not be available new from 2030 :(
A twin exhaust or an undertail exhaust would make it much cooler
In today's times when almost all motorcycle manufacturers have switched to two cylinders in parallel, because it's cheaper to manufacture, it's a delight to see an "inline four"! They made it 650cc because of pollution regulations! If only it stayed of 600 was probably up to 80hp.!Typical Honda refinement and reliability!I have a CBR600F2,it has about 80,000 km on it and still runs flawlessly without any major repairs!
I can't decide whether I love or hate the look of this bike.
Personally I prefer the CB650R in Candy Red with the copper coloured engine covers.
The CB650R is the best looking middleweight bike in the market. But i like her most with the bronce wheels and golden fork.
I own a 2016 MT-07 (with 2018 Headlight), and if in 2016 the CB would be availible, she would have been a true compeditor to the MT.
Forks wouldn’t change how nimble it feels. Did they change any geometries or tires?
Thinking of trading in my Ducati scrambler for one of these. The vibrations on the duke is slowly eroding the joy of riding and after an hour it’s getting to be a right pain. I’m hoping that going back to a 4 cylinder may help
man if they did one of these for the cbr I'd be so happy.
But sadly the black one has blue accents (on the tank being the worst part of it) and it's half gloss half matte which is dumb
Nice to see they've added the black edition to the 650R although sadly i dont think it works as well as it does on the CB1000R that works so well in the BE but i dont feel the same about it on the 650R
Why did you change the Akro to another end can on your bike?
The Akra was too loud.
The coolest edition I dont have the money or the financial stability for.
Update: I managed to grind enough to get a Matte black 2021 CB650R. In retrospect I like the color variation more with the bronze pieces then this all black edition. Cheers!
So would you still prefer your sv650 over it ?
Do you guys think that they will discontinue this bike soon now that the Hornet is out?
I wonder if Honda will keep this model now that the new Hornet 750 is out.
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On my 650f the throttle is super snatchy and jumpy at low rpm like cruising round town but when you wind on the throttle it does annoy me sometimes having to wait for that rush of power and torque 🤣😊
Try gripping with your fingertips and feathering the throttle at low speed. Helped me a lot
My son made me a foot peg lowering kit with some polished stainless steel brackets that lowered the pegs by about 15mm, doesn't sound like much of a difference but the comfort level compared to the factory set up was huge for me, I'm 61 years old and can ride all day without knee pain, still need to do something about the seat though as after a couple of hours it gets pretty uncomfortable.
Getting one of these for my 1st bike with the quick shifter. Just going to get a tail tidy and an exhaust. Were your exhaust full systems or just slip ones? And did you need to remap/flash after or good to go?
Is that Blackbushe Airport at the start?
This is my next dream and i am gonna make it true soon
Good got you! 👍
How does it wheelie?
A quickshifter would be nice for the experience but otherwise perfect. I wish they’d make a CB750 inline for or a CB800-900 at least. 750 is perfect for me. I’ll pay the premium
@@ElCoco1984 for which bikes?