Honda CB650R vs Suzuki SV650 (Real World Test Ride!)
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Turn up the brightness on the dash. It has a few more notches left from factory. Also I believe it needs a full system, they don’t make a slip on that I know of -not here in America anyway. I went with the akrapovic single and it’s amazing. Still not very loud but pretty good. Supposedly this bike and pipe combo don’t need a map. I haven’t noticed a whole lot of difference in mpg or any loss of power. It’s more responsive for sure. Another thing I did was adjust the play in the throttle. It was already a crazy smooth bike, but with the throttle play adjusted it’s even better. I’m a beginner and this bike has been amazing to ride and learn on. I hope I haven’t spoiled myself too much with how easy this bike is to ride. Love your videos. I’d love to have you on my podcast Far Betterment. I think you have a pretty great story to share. Thank you for doing what you do. Your videos helped me in my search quite a lot. Look up Far Betterment plnk.to/farbetterment lets chat.
Pretty sure you made a mistake, you were supposed to send it to me..
Missing the welcome u give.
Yammie Noob can i still win.. But lm in the philippines
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Something to note, my dad had an 06 SV 650 and he put 112k miles on it before he sold it someone else who still rides it. Towards the end it used a little oil, but otherwise he never even had to adjust the valves despite checking them religiously. Great bike.
LOL how old are you guys, !4 , 16?
@@narwhal7642 I’m 30 or so. Born in the winter time.
In 2006 I bought an Sv650 for $6000 out the door. At the time I think some magazine referred to it as the best street bike ever made for the real world. I'm not qualified to make such a statement but I certainly loved everything about it. Like you guys the road test guys kept emphasizing that the Trimph and the Honda or whatever had better brakes and suspension etc. I'm thinking "I hope they got something for an extra $3000!". And I still can't get over anyone referring to it as "a beginner bike, good for a wife or girlfriend. It only goes about 125 mph and take 14 seconds to do a quarter mile. Wheelies just fine. Awsome track bike with a race class of it own. I've been riding for 50 years it's plenty fast for me. I know it's not the only nice bike out there. Everyone makes great motorcycles these days. But I can't understand anyone that doesn't appreciate the SV a great ride, especially for the money.
Also I found your narrative a bit confusing. Your references to "this one and that one". Had me guessing which one this one was.
I still think he's a noob.
@H H Absolutely. 0 to 100km/h in less than 4 seconds. Enough power at low revs to lazily overtake people without downshifting, but also has a powerful top end. They rev to about 11.000, and hit 120km/h in 2nd gear.
My 1999 model very rapidly reaches 180km/h, acceleration above that is not that great, but still enough to be overtaken only once or twice on a hour long autobahn ride.
Enough torque to be able to put it in 3rd gear and drive away like that (though the clutch doesn't appreciate that).
Compared to the Ducati monster 797, the SV is much happier to rev, offering about the same acceleration but feeling faster.
In short: quick and nimble, and fast enough unless you wanna bully fast german sedans on the autobahn.
The newest model is very chuckable and nimble, the oldest one is just okay in corners. Many people with a 1999 model throw on some new, better shocks.
@@mfbfreak Couldn't agree more, I've been riding for nearly 50 years, and ridden a lot of different bikes, but recently I've been riding my daughters 05 SV with the half fairing, and I just love it, got to be one of the best bikes ever produced.
Back in 2004 did a European tour on the SV1000. Oh, I wish they would bring that bike back!
bought a SV in 1999 (the S model) had it for 13 years learnt to scratch and ride on the track with it. modified front end and a couple of things (the rectifiers were a problem) since then I had a RGV 250(sold recently) still have a GSX-R 600K8 Kawasaki ZX10R (track bikes ) and a2011 CBR 1000RR for the road , I am just about to buy a new SV again, here in AUS they are $10k . I know I will enjoy riding on public roads a lot more on this baby than on the Blade ,the Blade is awesome but a little bit too much on the street. ( SV is great for wheelies to !!)
I'm 65 and have been riding for 53 years ... started on dirt. My first
street bike was a 1972 Honda CB350 and since then I've had a bunch of
different bikes, no HD's. Since 1998 I've been riding BMW RT's since I
was doing a lot of long distance touring. I gave up touring a couple
years ago, been there ... done that ... next. Bought a BMW G310R, what a
BLAST! But the 34hp got boring pretty quick. For the past year I've
been searching for a bike to fit in between the R1250RT and the G310R. I
was looking for a mid weight naked. I looked at them all Ducati,
Triumph, KTM, BMW F900R and all the Japanese bikes. At the Cleveland
bike show this past January I decided on buying a Honda CB650R and it's
been one of my best bike purchases, ever. I LOVE this bike. I love the
characteristics of an I4. I don't need massive torque down low to pop
wheelies. The CB650R is an adult bike. This is my end bike. Well, along
with my Vespa GTS250 :)
would you get a Harley?
just rode my 2020 sv650 home yesterday! just hit 50 miles today. love it! honda knows how to make a bike tho and its sweet looking! but for 6200 bucks, I
am more than happy with my sv
congrats, same here 2020 sv with 6000km on it. Nice barkie arrow racetech beneath it!
Did you buy it brand new, and was 6200 your total OTD price?
@@kyle-qw5yx new yes. And it was 6800 after fee’s
i wanted to get the cb650r but due to pricing i was like nah, considering sv650 so bad. So how is it? is it a good beginner bike? and whats teh difference between sc 650x and the normal sv650
I have been riding 30 years and I love my beginner SV. :)
Got my first bike a few days ago! 2008 SV650S in red. Been riding just around small back roads for a few days and I'm already addicted.
Nice! I have an 09 0SV650S, its my 2nd bike. Best 2900 I ever spent. Its gonna be a long time before I need to get 'more bike'.
Congrats man! A blue 2008 was my first bike too. I ended up totaling it doing wheelies but I loved it because that bike taught me so much before giving me a reality check. Since then, I've never dropped another bike and I'm on my 3rd one, GSXR 750.
The GSXR 750 my favorite to own as a shiny toy but the SV650 was the funniest and quickest to learn on because it is fast but forgiving.
Gonna pick up a 99 SV this weekend for my first bike, so excited!
How is the throttle? Heard twins can be a bit snappy
@@JustWrightHD I no longer have the SV. Now I have another twin. KTM 1290 Super Adventure. They can be a little jumpy in first and second, but nothing to be scared of with good throttle control. The torque is addicting.
I started on a 250, then progressed to a 650, then 750 and finally went to a 1000. Now I’m going back to this 650 category because it’s the best power to weight for motorcycles. A 1000 is too heavy, gets too hot, and is too powerful. And 250cc bikes have no power. These 650cc bikes are perfect and the most fun to ride.
Amen
Same here. My early bikes had extras to increase power and my latest bikes employ electronics to reduce power. 650cc I’m coming home!
Like legit, any modern superbike weighs the same as the sv650 and some even lighter like the superduke. Weight is not the issue on the bike especially when you're riding mostly on the street but I guess the extra power is useless for you.
I still own my 2009 gladius but I cannot choose to ride it over my 2017 tuono 1100rr.
I actually switched from 125s to riding my fathers ktm 1190 adventure for some time before getting my self a versys 650... For my the weight of the 1190 wasn't an issue (its like 215kg or so) but it's just to powerfull to be driving in town (don't get me wrong, I love All of its 140HP). Also the handling is more for long distance and adventure riding (obviously) rather than for in traffic.
However, my 650 (as with any 650), you get a smaller and nimbler bike with power to match. I am actually having just as much fun on my 650 as on my fathers 1190.
Why not 750?
That CB650R is gorgeous
Any honda
denbeere4 I like that thing so much but it’s too expensive here in Vietnam so I gotta wait for the 300R
@@dh.tung01 yeah i ride a cbr1000rr
The new Honda look great with the new headlight
I honestly thought it was an MV Agusta when he first rolled it on camera and you couldn’t see the exhaust.
The stock SV is a great building platform, mine has a lot of work done and doesn't suffer from the issues mentioned above. Of course they're both pretty cool though.
20/10 for video review loved the duo setup and casual riding experience.
We need more real world tests they are just a blast to watch as a viewer and gives off a great realistic perspective.
Yess, second this. I don't really care for stats and numbers that I can just Google myself
The SV650 and the CB650R are both amazing bikes. I don't think you'd be disappointed with either of them as a new rider.
For my first bike I had to decide between these two bikes. Ended up getting a really good deal on an sv650x and absolutely love it.
Love the fact that they're not a bunch of lunatics speeding like idiots while comparing the bikes. Enjoyed the video very much! 👍👍👍
I like your guy's "real world view" as far as how each bike feels and looks. Excellent comparison, thanks!! 👍👍
Love my CB650R. 3K miles in, it's hands-down the best bike I've ever owned.
I’ve had a 2008 SV650 for 6 months now and I love it, It’s a great street bike, has good and useable power but is also pretty good for long distance trips, I’ve ridden it from Los Angeles all the way to Tempe Arizona and back with no problems at all and it wasn’t too uncomfortable. I high recommend it
The CB650R was the first big bike I ever rode on, and although I did love it, it was way too much for a beginner like me, it pulls like crazy and I'd definitely consider it more of a sport than a naked. I've now switched over to an SV650 and it's just so much more manageable and user-friendly for someone of my skill level. If you're an absolute beginner like I was I'd recommend the SV650 until you gain a little more confidence, then jump onto the CB650R once you've got your confidence and skills down.
And here i think that my apache rtr 180 is hard to manage
I’m a complete noob in the motorcycle world, so thanks for the info!
@@joeschmoe2697 a complete newb is exactly who should tell you if a bike is friendly for a beginner.
@@WeaselKonig No I’m saying that I’m the noob, and that I am grateful hahaha I see how it could be interpreted wrong though
@@WeaselKonig Updated it👍🏼
I haven't been on (or in) a Honda, that didn't feel like 'home'.
It all just fits.
My friend gifted me his 2003 SV650 for me to start riding on. I go for my learners permit on the 1st December. I’m excited to get out there and learn :)
That's almost 2 decade. Does its wheel even spin? 😂
Tantiwa Hopak yes it runs perfectly :) he took great care of it
Honda nailed it with their new CB's line up. Absolute gorgeous
Soloman 5k I don't consider having a power band flat spot and being overpriced as "nailing it". They nailed it so well it will probably be out of production soon.. Suzuki has nailed the SV650s for 20 years running which is why it is still around. A modern classic!
Soloman 5k now if only they would remodel the cb500f like the rest of them
@@kirarittberg5088 and still has 20 more peak HP and better quality than every other 650 currently 🙄
@@kirarittberg5088 CB is a religion. Remember that
@@kirarittberg5088 Suzuki fanboy, much?
I really loved how you guys contrasted the differences and similarities of these bikes.
Got my first bike because you! Thanks for the tips and advice on how to ride and where and when and pretty much all of it!
np my dude
To: Yammie
From: everyone
Dude, keep doing what your doing and never stop. You put so much time into this stuff and
you deserve so, so much more.
Love from Ohio
Will also giving more tourqe come in sooner with correct air fule mix
Surprisingly a lot of people still hate on Yammie but it is probably because they don't watch him and realise he doesn't ride like a dickhead.
Hate our riding season tho. Just start to winterize the bike for storage for the year
@@stevenfores9164 watch yammie's s1000rr review from 3 years ago. It's absolutely hilarious how much he has changed.
@Yammie Noob This is my first time watching one of your videos in this format, and I *absolutely loved it* from start to finish. Keep it up Yammie.
You guys are really great to watch and appreciate your real-world ride tests! Thanks fellas!
Completely unrelated, but: I was picking my Triumph up from the shop for services yesterday, and a BIG old boy pulled in on the Harley Livewire. The _ELECTRIC_ Harley. And I rode it.
My buddy and I came up, went 'OOOOH, what is that?', which completely surprised him because he's apparently used to be treated like some kind of heretic by the Dealership Beards.
He was so stoked someone didn't shit talk about his new ride, he offered me a spin. I gave him my Street Twin keys, he followed me, and I took it for a 5 mile guided ride.
Look, I'm not a Harley Guy anymore. Not at all. Not since my Dyna and I got divorced. But...goddammit it was dope. Halfway through he had me change the profile and it was *_LEGIT_*
Completely outside of my price point, but I _actually enjoyed the lack of an exhaust note and gears_
Just wind, some sci-fi windup noise and instant gitty-up. I'm not going to ever be a Harley Bro, but I think they may have done something right for once.
I think the Livewire is a sweet bike. The only issue is the price.
@@edman79 No joke. It was awesome, but not $30k of awesome. My Tacoma cost that much. But on the _other_ hand, between my insurance, the retarded fix-it bills of my Dyna, and the cost of gas, I feel if you're going to do the Harley thing, it makes more cost effective sense than buying a $30k Street Glide. Different crowd though. Dude said he gets about 120 miles on 1 charge, which isn't great for touring but fine for town, said he had no issues finding EV chargers at truck stops where he could chill and snack after a couple hours of sore Road Ass.
Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to post something off topic when we should be talking about the 650's, but I felt compelled to share it while it was fresh in my mind
Completely unrelated yes but thanks for the info and thoughts on this curiosity. I'm impressed that Harley are showing a willingness to build more than one style of machine, getting real feedback like yours has value for those who enjoy a range of motorcycles.
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Shoula bought a 1200 sportster. Bulletproof evolution engine . I love mine . Will never sell it. But it's my first Harley
Excellent review guys. Both bikes are good choices, but I’ve wanted the Honda from the first day it was launched. The only negative comments I had were the display in bright sunlight and the rev dip torque, both of which were covered. 👏
My wife owns a CB650R and I'm buying tomorrow a '21 SV650. I owned an '01 and a '16 previously so I know that bike very well and after looking for a ton of bikes to replace my CBF600 as a commuter bike in complement of my Ducati Monster 1100 Evo I decided to try an SV again after 3 years without riding one. I must say I still love that bike dearly and think it's one of the best bikes on the market for the real world period. It handles pretty great, the new calipers make the brakes finally good, and the engine while not as good as the older SVs is miles ahead most other bikes on that segment. Enough torque and power to have fun while being semi reasonable. Honestly it could be my only bike and as much as I love my Monster if I have to go back to only one it'll be the SV. It's fun, reliable, cheap, handles good enough, for someone that rides a lot for work and pleasure like me it's great. That being said the thrill I get on my Ducati is incomparable, the SV is like a boring reasonable Monster.
I've had 12 different road, adventure, big cc and motard bikes. Then I bought a 2017 SV650 new from the dealer, 20,000km later, I have no desire to change it which is a big statement for me.
Im side by side with any litre bike to 100 km/hr.
It handles like a dream and has a mean lean angle.
My girlfriends comfy on the back.
Servicing and running costs are economical.
The raw V Twin engine is better than music.
I Decat the exhaust, arrow slip on, k&n filter, snorkel removed, black renthal bars, aftermarket levers, reshaped seat for touring, upgraded headlight bulb and heated grips. It's a perfect machine!
Im so happy with it and highly recommend buying one.
Doesn't matter if you're tearing up the mountain for lunch with the boys, taking mrs for a ride through the city or going 500km away from home this bike will do it in style.
Hereby I propose we ban the use of words “starter bike”.
Thank you.
@@Eledaraumar Yes that's it !!! Adventure bikes are so 2010's, in the next decade everyone will want to ride an Assault Bike.
Yeah, think about their performance in car terms and you'd never call them starter vehicles. Imagine saying something that does 60 in 3.5 and 150mph is 'beginner'
Calling something a starter bike is not saying anything negative about the bike or those who ride it.. They're just saying that the motorcycle is forgiving and will be friendlier to someone who is more likely to make beginner mistakes
@@theriseagainstfan01 No it implies that you must go on to a... and the assumption there is some fire-breathing Ducati or wailing Fireblade. That built-in assumption needs to be challenged. 95BHP is plenty.
@@CornishMotorcycleDiaries Nobody MUST move on to anything. A bike being being more forgiving for someone less experienced doesn't make it any less of a real motorcycle for someone who does have the experience and skill
Those bikes plus the mt07 and Kawasaki z650 are all contenders for my first bike! Thanks for the great content that helps me make my decision
Aaron Burela I think I want the CB AND the MT. So good in different ways.
Picked up a 2017 sv650 today. So far so good.
How do you like it and how tall are you? I’m interested in the SV650 but I’m 6’3.
So the SV is notorious for having a bulletproof engine, its one of suzuki's best sellers and as a result has one of the most important attributes for motorcycles, cheaper secondhand parts. One of the most important skills of being a good motorcycle owner is knowing how to fix your bike.
Something I've noticed with honda bikes is they deliver 'the feeling', that rush when you twist the wrist, its amazing, however the ones I've ridden in the past have been a little less nimble than say, yamahas. which is a fantastic bike manufacturer. However id stay clear of yamaha, their bikes are so perfectly engineered you dont feel the rush, you can wiggle your hips and the bike wiggles just as easy, if you need to go fast and want to feel like you're going at walking pace, yamahas are for you.
Suzukis however, I feel combine these sensations and experiences, they're nimble AND give you that sensation. Which is why I now ride suzuki. I hope to one day own an SV 650 because for me its the ultimate bike, it was the first bike I ever saw and at that point in my life, I had no interest in cars or bikes, anything mechanical, I thought gearheads were stupid, and then the SV looked at me and said; "Hey..." From that point I have been working towards owning one, the sound, the feeling, the look, its perfect to me. Ontop of all that the SV is what happens when you tell an engineer to make a bike as nimble and responsive as possible, this thing will fucking turn on a dime, and don't even get me started on the SV's that were carbureted, the ease of popping a wheel was crazy, turn, straight, mid gear, fuck it get that bad boy up in the air and give the cops a wave.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but for me, I will never get past the SV, it has everything a normal city rider needs: Torque, looks, sound, reliability, and economy.
Well done on the quick "whatchamahoozit" Zach improv!
You just help me made up my mind buying honda - great review - thank you again.
The only thing I like in the Honda is how neat those headers are arranged.
You dont like the more powerful, inline 4 engine? The superior brakes? The far superior inverted suspension?
I do like it. But at the price range of that. Z800 and Z900 comes to my mind.
@@CaptainSlow93 if money is your problem go for the Z's . If you want a bike go for Honda.
@Ben Daulton "That's the danger of refinement, though. Not everyone notices."
Such good way of video making! Honda CB650R is looking really really good.
But it got It's price
I’ve been avoiding yammie (and all bike stuff) for a bit but I’m very happy I’m back and ready to get my first bike. Great video
You guys made a nice bike comparison video. Yes, the both have place. V twin characterizes low rev brunt and in line four features high power that accelerates you at high speed riding exhilarating punch at high rev. It really depends on personal preference beside bikes' styling and price.
Sv650 is an legendary motorcycle it runs for ever.
As a fellow enthusiast of the SV650, I completely agree with your sentiments. It's an excellent choice for a first motorcycle, particularly for those of a larger stature. I recently upgraded the front suspension of mine with the AR-25 Axxion Rod Damper Kit, and the improvement in handling and overall ride quality has been remarkable. This motorcycle now feels tailor-made for my needs, and I anticipate enjoying it for many years to come. It's an ideal bike for honing your riding skills over time, offering a good balance of power and agility.
There is room in RUclips land for Zach & Ari and Yammie & Spite. Love all the content.
That CB is so purdy! Top of my second bike choices.
The question is: where are these beautiful, scenic, almost empty roads?
The hill country of Texas is massively underrated and a great secret. Shhhhh
thx Yamster , been waiting for this one !
Im always coming back to this and the street triple video cause i´m prospecting or my second bike. Good stuff
Looking at these two to purchase in the next two months as my first bike. Great video. 🤙🏻
Daniel Tucker Tough choice, a proven modern classic VTwin (reliable, economical, serviceable and virtually unchanged since 1999) or flavour of the month from Honda. Consider why some models continually get changed or dropped from product lines. Now consider how good an engine has to be to go virtually unchanged over 20 years and still be viable and sought after in today's market. Also consider that the pricing difference is largely because one company paid for the production costs 20 years ago! Tough choices!
you know, it's all about perception, and the SV is definitely a less refined bike than the honda, but I just radically prefer the look, feel and engine of the SV, but then again I'm biased, I've owned 3 of them.
Just look at them pipes. :-)
@@God-Knows-I-Dont oh yeah, and NOTHING should have the crap pipes put on by the factory, (excepting the Ninja 650, Street Triple and others where the factory can is hidden under the bike and you never see it anyway)
For a little bit more the SV650S with quarter fairing,just my 2 cents.😊
I'm currently learning in the UK on an SV650 and love it!
The modern sv650 has a lot of electronic helpers for safety and convenience. Though idk if their traction control system prevents accidental nooners. My local riding school (western euro style) uses them for the full power class of bikes.
The old ones are definitely more snappy, which is great fun for experienced riders but not good for beginners who didn't do the euro style extensive training. Quite easy to break traction on cold/wet roads.
I have a 1999 one, and i love it to death. Lightning fast acceleration, chill highway behavior, top speed enough for the german autobahn.
I am in Iran and even if I win the motorcycle I could not have it . :( just so sad not having one and could not buy one with expensive low quality motorcycle prices . i just wish things gets better for everyone
agha dammet garm it will get better
this content is so much better than those generic fact videos!! more bikes and more reviews please!
Suzuki SV650 best bang for buck and the best handling. Oh and that v-twin sound😤 For the price of the Honda you can buy a Suzuki GSX-S750😅
Totally agreed. The sv650 I bet will have better fuel economy. I learnt on a hornet variant and far prefer the sv650 engine in terms of delivery low down grunt and handling.
Was hoping they'd update the display to TFT and change the headlight to LED for the 2020 version but they just made new colorways. Still I agree with the best bang for buck in the middleweight naked category. But if you're open minded in regards to brands CF Moto just dropped a 700cc and based on the pictures they released it's a looker.
Wouldn't say that since i'm my country CBR650R is only 300$ more expensive than the sv650 and the honda's 4 cylinder engine makese it lasts eons with a great power delivery not even talking about the throttle response which is INSTANT and soooo smooth
@@shuttzi9878 what country is that? Here where I'm from it's over 100k more local money which is around 1900 USD.
@@bernardjameswilson Poland
I have that SV650 and I just can't go past the great sound with a nice pipe. Inline 4's do sound nice at higher RPM's but the rumble of the twin is wonderful. In an ideal world, I'd have one of each.
I bought myself my dream bike first. A 1000cc v twin and whilst its been ok i never felt that i was getting the most from it. Mearly 3 years later ive got myself a 919 as well and my riding has improved so much because of it. I think your bang on about the four cylinder 650 being a good first bike. And that honda looks absolutely awesome, especially in the red, black and grey combo.
Two thumbs up on the Bluetooth communication . Always totally missed that when I was riding with ma boys. We got adjusted to sign language most of the time.
I think this is the first time I'm seeing your channel! Love this content! Great job on production but just constructive criticism here...little more refinement and smoothness when getting close up on the bike and moving from one part of the bike to the next. Texas is looking warm still! Keep 'em coming! Ride safe! Cheers!
Finally found the CB650R available in my area.. picking it up Tuesday morning!
Having ridden a cbr600rr, and as an owner of an sv650s, those two bikes although being standards, are quite different machines like yammie said. The engine configurations have clear differences. The price points are aimed at different rider markets, not to mention the SV has always been a budget middle-weight.
Having said that, they’re still both great bikes with SV having one of the best values, and Honda having that premium quality. I think the SV is the better beginner bike though, I wouldn’t recommend a newbie rider to hop on a bike with 4 caliper brakes as they’re probably still learning how to be smooth.
The new sv have 4pot calipers...
Had the 1st gen SV650 and moded the suspension weak point almost all SV650 owners did that but breaks were more then adequate.Never felt they could not stop the bike.
Went from a Honda inline 4 to a gladius650 this summer, much more usable power
Spite&Yammie are the Zack&Ari you have @ home.
Papa Yam: The honda CB650 is probably the only beginner friendly inline 4 in the market right now.
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i had a bandit 1200 when test rode a friends ducati 696 and even with 25hp less and less torq, the v2 of the ducati made me smile like a small children with a new bike. i knew i had to get a v2 motorbike but reliable, so sild the bandit and bought a 2005sv650 and still have it. the bike is addictive and the power is so easy to use on ant road and absolutely a hooligan on city and b roads. everyone who loves bikes, please test a v2 like this
due too corona i cannot go out but i like too see you guys enjoying the road....missing it a lot
You fell for that? Wow hopefully by now you know the real agenda
I haven't ridden a CB650R so I cant talk from experience, but looking at the dyno graphs, it seems that it's power is lower across the rev range, but only by about 600 RPM i.e. if you just ride around with your revs 600 RPM higher than you would say, an MT07, then you will be getting the same amount of power. Makes sense considering that the motor is so smooth and doesn't mind revving. I think it's a really interesting bike and I like it a lot compared to all of the boring inline twins. I owned the LAMS version of the MT07 and now I own the Duke 390. The Duke is a lot more fun to ride. The suspension is so much more dialed and the chassis is terrific. It's just a fun little naked sports bike. The MT07 in comparison was wallowy and felt a lot less sporty. It's one saving grace is the motor but other than that it's a pretty generic bike. The CB650R looks a lot better made. It's a shame Honda don't make the VFR 800 any more. What an awesome bike. I want one.
I had a SV1000S, I now have a TL1000R. All these motors originated from the TLs. Of course the TL1000R has the most power and highest fun factor seeing it was their vtwin race bike. But, all the other forms of the motor are still killer. It is nice to have a 2003 TLR and a 2023 GSX S1000 in the garage. Suzuki for life.
"you can go offroad on any bike" i 100% agree.. i go on about 15miles of dirt road on my 1996 honda rebel 125, and this is ROUGH dirt road, more like gravel most of the time, and i make it work. I've only been riding a bit over a month
That two cylinder engine sounds like a tractor when 4 cylinder sounds really good specially with an aftermarket exhaust.
That road is gorgeous.
I noticed you said the CB is only 5hp more, it's actually 19hp more. The SV is 75 and the CB is 94. I bought a CB 3 weeks ago for my first bike. Finishing getting my license this week (UK) and I cannot wait. I love it and haven't even ridden it. We're doing our license/training on the MT07 and it's a fun bike but I wouldn't trust it a lot if I'm honest.
Dang dude you made a whole video! Thanks :)
I would love it if people stopped using the term beginner bike. Each bike fits a particular need and desire, not always related to skill level.
Yammie, may or lord and savior Rossi Bless you, your friends and your family!! You and your videos are soooooo fucking good to watch!! A big ty here from Brazil!!!
I just bought a 2020 cb300r and I am in love 😍 if(and that’s a big IF because I feel like this is the perfect bike for me) I ever decide to upgrade, I’m definitely getting the cb650r
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What kind of communication system do you guys use? your voices are super clear. love your videos btw!
Just bought a 2022 sv650. stock, it definitely leaves a lot to be desired, specifically regarding suspension. other than that its normal things on any stock bike, flash tune, exhaust, bars, levers, rearsets, grips, mirrors, etc. etc. In the end its a fantastic bike and the lineage speaks for itself (except yo, gladius).
My heart broke when florida was excluded from the giveaway... anyways great review and still love the vids
@Michael Moretti check the link in the description. Says both New York and Florida are excluded
@Michael Moretti sadly i do not thats all up to Yammie and his crew
Nismo PR14 if I had to guess, it is for legal reasons, maybe giveaways cost them high taxes from those states.
Man I love my CB919 but damn I would trade it for the new CB650 just by the looks alone
I used to own a Honda 919 it had 110 hp 65 ft lb torque. it was a 2006 or something I sold it and I wish I still had it. It was an absolute beast. However I’ve ridden friends sv650s before and I really love the twin engine a lot more. I really liked how friendlier the bike was than my hornet I could twist the throttle a lot more without being nervous but it still moved nicely. If you’re like me and wanting to buy a new bike but don’t want an absolute monster but still like a little power the sv is perfect. In a couple years I’m going to finance one so as to keep a good credit history.
Torque vs gear ratios.......
All I can say is from my experience of owning a 2016 cb650f, I never lost out off the line vs 650 parallel twins. For an inline 4, the cb650f is surprisingly torquey.
hasbeenb4 Love seeing you 4 cylinder boys burning your clutches for those quick starts. I like hooking up my V twin at low rpm and rolling it on. Never considered my SV 650s to be a drag bike, but they can be quick enough off the line. The smooth refined power delivery from the low end is so satisfying that I doubt I will ever purchase another in line 4 cylinder. After 30 years of R&D the Honda still has the power band flat spot that my 1979 CB650 did, so sad!
@@kirarittberg5088umm… slipper clutch…. It’s what it’s designed for.
Am I weird for thinking the SV650 looks better than the Honda?
nah dude, that´s called personal taste. I for instance don´t really like either of them and really enjoy the 2021 MT models everyone hates
18:00 the new kawasaki 250 r enters the chat.
Well, from all we heard about it up to now it seems to be a bit more sport oriented than your typical 250-400cc bike. Zxr400 was also a nice low cc 4 cylinder, but it was basically all Sport and it demanded some skill to ride it safely.
That's ZX-25RR.
And it's only got enough torque to pull the skin off rice soup.
That honda is sick! I hate the little interface though, I much prefer analog gauges.
I want to mention, with the horsepower figures, the Honda is ~80 hp to the wheel, the Suzuki is 75 at the crank. The Honda is about 91 so there’s a pretty big horsepower difference there.
All of the new cb’s feel amazing, the 300 650 and the 1000. I didn’t care for the way the Mt or sv felt, but the cb is really in a different class. It’s a naked 650 but it’s a very different bike.
@ben daulton when you really look at the components used to build the Honda there is a serious difference in quality though, yeah the Honda is pricey for what you get, but it depends on what you value. You can buy an mt09 for the same price, but the suspension and build quality aren’t really comparable. The gsx I haven’t ridden, but I’ve heard that it really doesn’t have much soul to it. The suspension is fine, the engine is pretty good, but it has no personality. And of course owning the Honda, I wouldn’t be able to get off without looking back at it, it’s a beautiful bike and a damn good performer with that suspension setup. When they hit the used market at around 7-7500 they’re gonna be a hell of a value.
The Honda is a nice looking bike, but I’ll take that V Twin all day long.
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We: *waiting for the real stuff of the video*
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I wish I could afford the 650r. Although i would personally get the cbr version
I have a total black CB 2023 and I would choose it 1000 times
"Any bike is a off road bike if you try hard enough"....true. I raced a modded cr80 with my yammie xs400 with street tires on a back yard practice track and beat it. Granted I was not fun, but old girl did it. And I was alot younger and reckless then....30+ years ago
Your 4th gear roll-on test should have been a 3rd gear roll-on test. I have the 2017 SV. Trust me, on the SV you want to be in 3rd gear if you're starting at 35mph. You would have been pushed back in your seat and you would have left the CB behind. I do 3rd gear roll-ons from 35 to 85mph all the time on my favorite roads. On the SV, 4th gear is too tall if you're rolling on from 35mph.
Agree SV above 6k becomes a beast.
I like both bikes cb650 definitely sexier bike , but I will go for the SV650, why it’s lower to ground great bike for beginners and enough power to grow on
Great video. I'll keep the SB650
Cool fun review. Now please ride the Honda and the GSX S750 together. Where I live the GSX is US$1,700 cheaper and has been rereleased with no changes.
SV looks better to my eyes, coz of the trellis frame. I also prefer the engine and the 2k savings.
@@paoloc3318 it's a Ducati monster rip off, of course it looks better than your average Japanese middle weight.
I may sound crazy but i'm selling my Tuono V4 and thinking of getting one of these.
Is a dream of a bike, surely, much better than any of those, but for canyon rides with my mates
i think i would have more fun with one of those and more forgiving, the tuono is just a speed monster
and has a breathtaking acceleration.
19:08 "the same Tokico's since 1999"
Maybe in *that* model, but 2019 Suzuki changed them from the 2-piston sliding-pin, to 4 piston opposed, very similar to the MT-07 currently. I quote directly off Suzuki's website specs: "Dual, 4-piston calipers, twin disc, ABS-equipped"
2020 Honda CB650R: msrp $9,199
2020 Kawasaki Z900: msrp $8,999
Chew on THAT for a moment before throwing down for the Honda...
This model year came with the old brakes unfortunately, next model year after this one they upgraded the brakes. I shoulve waited lol.
The SV just looks more sporty and that's why I love it