It was so great to see some real emotion from one of them about their loss. I get that they are in a tricky situation with this deal. But it seemed to me like Kendall after losing it the first night, just was loving every aspect of this transition. And Shiv shed her last tear on that boat.
I love Kendall and Roman together. I think it's the closest thing to a real bond in the show. I love it when Kendall just knows when Roman is about to lose it and tries to stop him and when he can't do it then tries to comfort him and says his move might work when he knows it can't. I think we can understand the bond by these little things like Kendall defending Rome from Logan in season 2 and i notice in the Logan's death episode Kendall is looking at Roman a lot and checks if he is ok i can't help it i just love them. Go the CE-Bros
It worked wonders for the board. As far as they're concerned the brothers hit a home run. Matsson paid way more than he would have, even for the complete package, if he where negotiating with Logan whom he knew wanted to sell in good faith. The moment he knew they didn't want to sell, he had to offer a way bigger amount to make his offer impossible to refuse.
@@RunningRugby4 yeah i agree the important thing is from everyone's point of view the "CE-Bros" works. And maybe it was a negotiating tactic:))) but it's not:)
Poor Roman. Out of all the kids, he's grieving the most. He could never completely cut his father off. Even after the way things ended last season, he still went back to him. He doesn't know how to function without Logan around.
I love how they shot this scene. They’re in the most beautiful place on earth, yet have zero awareness of anything and can’t appreciate anything or feel any happiness. Such a great scene.
My favourite Roman moment so far, I hope he gets to be the official Succesor he has come a long way, and become more mature and sensitive after Logan’s death , he will be proud.
That’s the thing, if he wants the top job he’d most likely have to lose that sensitive side he’s shown since his pops died. He’d need to be as cruel and ruthless as Logan.
@@FilonisHat He is cruel and ruthless, just not to his family members. He can't last against Kendall or Shiv, Shiv wants to make her own pile but the others are too obsessed with Logans legacy, and Kendall is an addict that comes off his high eventually. None of them can win.
Logan definitely wouldn’t be proud. Roman let his emotions and personal issues get in the way of business, something Logan would be ashamed of. Now Matsson knows how emotionally invested Ken and Rom are in the company and will use that to his advantage. He made a huge offer for the company that all the old execs love, and if Ken and Rom kill the deal, they’ll have a mutiny.
Kendall and Shiv had their moments previous seasons and I am glad this season we put more attention to Roman. His character development is really interesting and we finally see him beyond a man child with rich dad
@@billyobfas6962 Well, it's not abusive that's how just rich peoples relationship works, plus he's last child of Logan he has more affection than the rest of the Roys
@@vigneshwaranv-vo6wp more affection?? girl he was the only one who his father is confirmed to have abused (physically! he hit roman as a kid!) and abused kids idolising the people who hurt them is a surprisingly common response. man is out here being manipulated and dismissed and still being hit as an adult and some people are like ‘it’s so good hes standing up for his dad’ ????????
FINALLY! I was waiting for Roman to step up. He always seemed to dance around topics, albeit skillfully. But for once he told it like it is straight to Matsson's face. But that is what what was needed, the truth. All cards on the table.
@@unadanni the way he so clearly wasn't distraught over JUST the business deal, his dad barely died and Mattson's was already trying to chew the siblings down to their bones, he was buying not only his dad's company but also the news outlet his father was extremely attached to, and Roman has been volatile since the beginning of the show. He doesn't even want to sell the company: if his father had been alive at that point he probably would have. And, guess what: the death of a parent can make you emotionally unstable in any situation at any age
Seems like the people in the comments don’t get dynamics among personality types. I agree 100%, Mattson is the same kind of bully-figure that Logan was. Except Roman can actually fight and yell back at Matsson. He never would have allowed himself to speak like that to Logan.
@@the9thinning1 does it really end up mattering if you don't elaborate? I'm here to bring it back up to relevancy because this comment was dead in the water.
What killed Logan was the fact that he didn't wear flight socks to impress his girlfriend and then had a pulmonary embolism. If you notice, Karl and Frank made sure they wore compression socks before jet-setting to Norway after Logan's death.
In the end, i think Matsson is the one who made Logan the happiest, at least the last months before his passing. Both Logan and Matsson care little about enjoying money, what really keeps them alive is all those bussiness strategies, flirting and negotiations between two equally manipulative giants, just like they showed during their conversations in Matsson's villa in Italy. Thinking about the next move is what Logan really loved, and Matsson kept his rhythm just fine, only Logan was eventually defeated by his age.
I think that was Mencken wasnt it? AFAIK first time Rome and Mattson talked was at Ken’s birthday party. Their names are so similar though lol don’t blame you Edit: I realize now that Mattson and Rome did go into the bathroom at Ken’s bday party. Kinda weird how he seems to be at his best negotiating-wise when talking to the other dude in a bathroom.
Scooby-Dooing is something Roman brought up as a strategy to his dad a couple of seasons earlier. Matson dismissing it as childish really pushed him over the edge
As a big fan of the show and an even bigger fan of Roman, I had been hoping for a scene like this. If anywhere, then where better to snap than in front of Matsson on a mountain top? I loved it! And should anyone from HBO or the Succession team read this, pretty pretty please release sometime after May 28 the scenes that didn't make the final cut, such as the full discussion between Stewy and Ken, Mencken paying his respects, the confrontation with Connor and any other bit available. I can't possibly be alone in wanting this?
This makes the scene that Roman has to sign the document while getting photographed standing next to Lukas and Shiv watching her defeated brother so much more sad
It’s funny he brought up Kendall overpaying for vaulter, then made the exact same move. Like Logan Roy would say - "congratulations on saying the biggest number you f-----g moron!"
And see this is the entire point that Logan was trying to make. None of his children are capable of doing what needs to be done. Whether it comes down to just pure incompetence, emotional issues or just a lack of any guts. Mattson is Logan. He is an animal that will do whatever it takes and when he wants to burn someone he will and he has no hesitation and the kids are just not capable of beating him. So when Roman is like oh you wouldn’t delay it give us a break that’s him basically being like why won’t you just do what we want? Meanwhile mattson is just like this really can’t be any easier?
Feel like this episode perfectly portrayed why Logan didn't want to give the company to any of his children. Roman being immature and can't physically stop himself from saying something dumb. Kendal trying to kill the deal just so he can continue to be CEO. Shyv being completely selfish and looking out only for herself.
There’s a difference between keeping your company from falling and honoring your father’s legacy while maintaining self respect. Deals come and go. Waystar can always find a different solution and the company isn’t broke, like they said they are rich. Doing business with Mattson would mean surrendering and becoming his to control.
More and more as I watch this show Kieran keeps reminding me of Robert Downey Jr. He’s such a dynamic actor, always moving around, great at improv and can turn the humor off for dramatic scenes so well while keeping the quick witted aspect of his character right at the front. Really good.
I thought of this as Roman waiting on Kendall to say something to defend their dead father. He snapped when he realized Kendall was only going to hesitate and not say anything. These last few episodes I don’t see it as Roman imploding. He’s handled the situations logically.
01:53 I've been OBSESSED with how Roman says "Did I?" God his delivery was insane
Even the little “good” right after. Just perfect.
Yea..kind of imitated from Walf of wall street yacht scene
same. the timing, the look in his eyes, the tone in his voice, i could go on about this.
@@gordongekko9742 exactly what i thought
Amazing, you can see how the anger seeps through his polite smile
The delivery of “it’s over for me” conveys exactly how Roman must be feeling
I feel for Roman. He is still in mourning for his father and he just had it with all the sarcastic jokes.
It was so great to see some real emotion from one of them about their loss. I get that they are in a tricky situation with this deal. But it seemed to me like Kendall after losing it the first night, just was loving every aspect of this transition. And Shiv shed her last tear on that boat.
Not even still in mourning, more like still processing that it even happened.
This is Roman in boss mode. His own way, his own style, being true to himself. I love it.
"Maybe it plays" ... Kendall, the eternal optimist.
😂
kinda did too LOL upped the offer a few billion.
@Nick Macker But Kendall wants to run the empire, not sell
The shot of him wearing that beanie and staring off into the mountains made that line even funnier.
😂😂
I love Kendall and Roman together. I think it's the closest thing to a real bond in the show. I love it when Kendall just knows when Roman is about to lose it and tries to stop him and when he can't do it then tries to comfort him and says his move might work when he knows it can't. I think we can understand the bond by these little things like Kendall defending Rome from Logan in season 2 and i notice in the Logan's death episode Kendall is looking at Roman a lot and checks if he is ok i can't help it i just love them. Go the CE-Bros
It's gonna hurt hard when they turn on each other
@@trevorgerardfrederick exactly. That's why I'm really trying to enjoy these few seconds before that happens :)
It worked wonders for the board. As far as they're concerned the brothers hit a home run. Matsson paid way more than he would have, even for the complete package, if he where negotiating with Logan whom he knew wanted to sell in good faith. The moment he knew they didn't want to sell, he had to offer a way bigger amount to make his offer impossible to refuse.
@@RunningRugby4 yeah i agree the important thing is from everyone's point of view the "CE-Bros" works. And maybe it was a negotiating tactic:))) but it's not:)
Ken after episode 7: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT
Kieran Culkin deserves a Emmy for this episode
Relax
No
I agree - it was so wellplayed!
He deserves an Emmy for this exact moment.
@@siddharthshukla6799 di
Poor Roman. Out of all the kids, he's grieving the most. He could never completely cut his father off. Even after the way things ended last season, he still went back to him. He doesn't know how to function without Logan around.
I love how they shot this scene. They’re in the most beautiful place on earth, yet have zero awareness of anything and can’t appreciate anything or feel any happiness. Such a great scene.
It was clearly windy on that mountain. The sound team deserves an Emmy.
But not the production team. Transition on 1:34 was poor
@@excluyousivitehow do you mean?
the performances in this show are spectacular, but kieran deserves the emmy
Kieran and Sarah better win big at the Emmys. They've killed it this season 🙌
or Jeremy because yes he did too
And look at them now!
My favourite Roman moment so far, I hope he gets to be the official Succesor he has come a long way, and become more mature and sensitive after Logan’s death , he will be proud.
You have no idea how clueless you sound
That’s the thing, if he wants the top job he’d most likely have to lose that sensitive side he’s shown since his pops died. He’d need to be as cruel and ruthless as Logan.
he won't be. this was a cool speech and an iconic moment but it wasn't a successor level powerplay.
@@FilonisHat He is cruel and ruthless, just not to his family members. He can't last against Kendall or Shiv, Shiv wants to make her own pile but the others are too obsessed with Logans legacy, and Kendall is an addict that comes off his high eventually. None of them can win.
Logan definitely wouldn’t be proud. Roman let his emotions and personal issues get in the way of business, something Logan would be ashamed of. Now Matsson knows how emotionally invested Ken and Rom are in the company and will use that to his advantage. He made a huge offer for the company that all the old execs love, and if Ken and Rom kill the deal, they’ll have a mutiny.
This felt real. I was nervous watching this scene
Definitely. Mattson's scenes have an edge 😬
Kendall and Shiv had their moments previous seasons and I am glad this season we put more attention to Roman. His character development is really interesting and we finally see him beyond a man child with rich dad
Kieran Culkin is absolutely fantastic in this scene, this season has really given him a lot to work with.
Roman defending his father is top NOTCH!!!
That’s how abusive relationships sadly work
@@billyobfas6962 no Lmaoo
@@billyobfas6962 Well, it's not abusive that's how just rich peoples relationship works, plus he's last child of Logan he has more affection than the rest of the Roys
@@vigneshwaranv-vo6wp more affection?? girl he was the only one who his father is confirmed to have abused (physically! he hit roman as a kid!) and abused kids idolising the people who hurt them is a surprisingly common response. man is out here being manipulated and dismissed and still being hit as an adult and some people are like ‘it’s so good hes standing up for his dad’ ????????
FINALLY! I was waiting for Roman to step up. He always seemed to dance around topics, albeit skillfully. But for once he told it like it is straight to Matsson's face. But that is what what was needed, the truth. All cards on the table.
What was needed? It was a massive fuckup that almost singlehandedly led to Mattson's victory. Only children get emotional over business deals.😂
@@unadanni the way he so clearly wasn't distraught over JUST the business deal, his dad barely died and Mattson's was already trying to chew the siblings down to their bones, he was buying not only his dad's company but also the news outlet his father was extremely attached to, and Roman has been volatile since the beginning of the show. He doesn't even want to sell the company: if his father had been alive at that point he probably would have. And, guess what: the death of a parent can make you emotionally unstable in any situation at any age
All-time television moment. And the acting from Kieran Culkin is perfection 🙌
The BEST show on television right now. Every episode is a masterpiece
So many things happening from 0:26 to 0:29
the way kendall says “rome” like he recognizes what he’s about to do was nice
Tremendous
That tiny little smile at the end
When Rome he said "Did I" is like when leo said "am I?" in the wolf of wall street when he was talking to that FBI agent.
And both Leo and Rome both lost, pathetically 😂🤣
Oh my god they are both just brilliant.
The precise scene where Kieran Culkin won an Emmy. 👏
1:52 That "did I?" is hilarious.
In a way, Matsson is a stand in for their dad, and this is Roman sticking up for himself for the first time in his life.
What?
@@thewillsta5882 lol
dont really agree with that interpretation personally
Seems like the people in the comments don’t get dynamics among personality types. I agree 100%, Mattson is the same kind of bully-figure that Logan was. Except Roman can actually fight and yell back at Matsson. He never would have allowed himself to speak like that to Logan.
@@the9thinning1 does it really end up mattering if you don't elaborate? I'm here to bring it back up to relevancy because this comment was dead in the water.
What killed Logan was the fact that he didn't wear flight socks to impress his girlfriend and then had a pulmonary embolism. If you notice, Karl and Frank made sure they wore compression socks before jet-setting to Norway after Logan's death.
Excellent point!
Hearsay
Kieran Culkin = top tier actor right now. Give the man an Emmy, an Oscar, a role as The Joker... He must be protected at all costs!!!
One of my top 5 favorite scenes from Succession. Culkin nailed it.
This scene is just EPIC.
One of my new favorite scenes in this absolutely brilliant show
Roman has the best character development in the series
The acting in this show deserves all the awards
"Now if a deal collapses in the woods and no one hears it, is it an SEC violation?"
1:49 makes me feel things... i have seen this scene like 10 time after the episode aired just for that moment😭
didn't even need to click to know what it was, that Did I got me good too, it's so visceral.
Roman's journey from Season 3 to 4 has been amazing to watch...amazing show.
That little series of faces he makes when hes deciding whether or not to Say the Thing is so accurate 😂 as someone who also does this
Roman did the right thing, There’s no price tag for honor & a clear conscience
In the end, i think Matsson is the one who made Logan the happiest, at least the last months before his passing. Both Logan and Matsson care little about enjoying money, what really keeps them alive is all those bussiness strategies, flirting and negotiations between two equally manipulative giants, just like they showed during their conversations in Matsson's villa in Italy. Thinking about the next move is what Logan really loved, and Matsson kept his rhythm just fine, only Logan was eventually defeated by his age.
The dynamics this season are the best of the show.
Throwback to when Roman first discussed the deal with mattson when they were in the washroom at that party😂😂
Great catch!
I think that was Mencken wasnt it? AFAIK first time Rome and Mattson talked was at Ken’s birthday party. Their names are so similar though lol don’t blame you
Edit: I realize now that Mattson and Rome did go into the bathroom at Ken’s bday party. Kinda weird how he seems to be at his best negotiating-wise when talking to the other dude in a bathroom.
I did not think kieran Culkan had that in him. He's on fire this season.
Scooby-Dooing is something Roman brought up as a strategy to his dad a couple of seasons earlier.
Matson dismissing it as childish really pushed him over the edge
well said.
wondering what the exact nature of that strategy would be?
the emotion...i'm trembling
Jesus, the dialogue in this scene is so well written, frankly, all of the dialogue in the show is so well written
Kieran is taking that Emmy home !
jesse really made them enemies because they would be unstoppable as lovers, but that's just my grain of salt
Are you talking about Roman and Ken or Roman and Matsson
As a big fan of the show and an even bigger fan of Roman, I had been hoping for a scene like this. If anywhere, then where better to snap than in front of Matsson on a mountain top? I loved it!
And should anyone from HBO or the Succession team read this, pretty pretty please release sometime after May 28 the scenes that didn't make the final cut, such as the full discussion between Stewy and Ken, Mencken paying his respects, the confrontation with Connor and any other bit available. I can't possibly be alone in wanting this?
This makes the scene that Roman has to sign the document while getting photographed standing next to Lukas and Shiv watching her defeated brother so much more sad
It’s funny he brought up Kendall overpaying for vaulter, then made the exact same move. Like Logan Roy would say - "congratulations on saying the biggest number you f-----g moron!"
He never bought vaulter though he just wanted to hire their former CEO
This was PROBABLY my single favorite “Roman moment” in the ENTIRE series.
Real power move barging in on a man pissing like that
I am so happy y'all decided to upload this clip.
Another Roman episode! Kieran is killing the final season!
The actor who plays Matson plays jackass character so well
And see this is the entire point that Logan was trying to make. None of his children are capable of doing what needs to be done. Whether it comes down to just pure incompetence, emotional issues or just a lack of any guts. Mattson is Logan. He is an animal that will do whatever it takes and when he wants to burn someone he will and he has no hesitation and the kids are just not capable of beating him. So when Roman is like oh you wouldn’t delay it give us a break that’s him basically being like why won’t you just do what we want? Meanwhile mattson is just like this really can’t be any easier?
he ate that up so good
this scene was so satisfying
Feel like this episode perfectly portrayed why Logan didn't want to give the company to any of his children.
Roman being immature and can't physically stop himself from saying something dumb.
Kendal trying to kill the deal just so he can continue to be CEO.
Shyv being completely selfish and looking out only for herself.
There’s a difference between keeping your company from falling and honoring your father’s legacy while maintaining self respect. Deals come and go. Waystar can always find a different solution and the company isn’t broke, like they said they are rich. Doing business with Mattson would mean surrendering and becoming his to control.
🎯💯
Solidifying Roman as most GOAT Roy
Flawless episode.
Phenomenal! Emmy for Kieran please. 👏🏻🥇🏆🏅🎖️🤩⭐️✨
Give him all the awards
I love how after every episode people have a new contender for an emmy!
More and more as I watch this show Kieran keeps reminding me of Robert Downey Jr. He’s such a dynamic actor, always moving around, great at improv and can turn the humor off for dramatic scenes so well while keeping the quick witted aspect of his character right at the front. Really good.
You're so right!!
i never noticed how long and loud he pissed
We never saw him put his wang away either
I think this outburst is mostly due to Connor sending Roman a picture of dads corpse
Please, give a Emmy to Kieran Culkin
So proud of Roman this year….I hope this ages well. edit* It did not
roman finally standing up for himself and his siblings. This was so intense and he just handled it like a champ I lovei t
When ROME gives Kendall that look, he knows it’s going to get bad.
I thought of this as Roman waiting on Kendall to say something to defend their dead father. He snapped when he realized Kendall was only going to hesitate and not say anything. These last few episodes I don’t see it as Roman imploding. He’s handled the situations logically.
In my head I was like “Hit him Rome!!!”
Mattson is VERY punchable.
This was so cathartic.
Half the comments: "This was a great personal breakthrough for Roman!"
The other half: "This was a terrible business move for Roman!"
And THIS is why Kieran won the Golden Globe tonight!
I love the way Skarsgard (Matsson) delivers his “yea-heh-heh” at 1:55
This SCENE!! 👏🏼👏🏼
The way I found Roman insanely hot during this scene is wild
That's how you win an Emmy in 2:24 mins. Served.
Was waiting for this to be posted
My favourite character with the best perfomance of the entire show
If they didn't want to keep the company and have the bigest bag this was a genius move.
Emmy Nomination coming at you.
This is when Roman became Scooby Doos
Looks incredible real like if Kieran didn't acting and actually lost his father.
Dicaprio level acting
This was the scene for me that I knew Kieran was going to get that Emmy. Congrats Kieran!
Actor show basic emotion, fans: He deserves an Emmy
Kieran Culkin is gonna win the golden globe
And the Emmy award for best supporting actor goes to…!
I would love to have Roman as my little brother. Awesome
The roy's get a taste of the own medicine
00:53 sounds like foreshadowing, he's going to off himself
I know it's a sensitive moment and everything but Roman absolutely losing it turns me on.
When Kendall say “Rome” is “Rome do your best”, and all us knew that is gonna be incredible and Shocking!
This was great.
Just Eric Northman being himself 😂
I really thought Mattson was going to toss him off the cliff or at least give him a smack here
Finish him! FINISH HIM!