I dont know after seeing the foot long scar on his arm last night during an interview (had never seen that), i worry that this may mess up his whole career but yeah its what he wants to do.
I know. But it's still debateable what he can do if he played one way. Be better than Wille Mays as a hitter & runner. Or better than Cy Young & Koufax as a pitcher. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the Gold Glove if he plays a position.
Remember: Ohtani is a pitcher on rehab from TJ surgery...still earning his money. There are dozens of pitchers who were sitting at home on TJ rehab watching this game on TV. Saw that on another channel.
are we forgetting that ohtani's 2021-2023 is just as historic? the only player to fully compete as a two-way player. nobody has done it either. he's constantly setting the standard.
Ohtani is a top 5 pitcher in the NL. He can realistically win 20 games (15 with the Angels where he lost or had ND in 7 games when he allowed 2 or less runs in 2022), strike out 250, and his offense will "suffer" a bit. Suffering for him is 40 home runs and 25 steals. I think the Dodgers will certainly take these number any season. Crazy to not let him pitch at least a couple of seasons.
Steve Phillips is generally a good baseball analyst, but he's mistaken in arguing for Ohtani just being a hitter. It's very clear that Shohei loves to pitch and loves to combine pitching and hitting, even though the workload is much greater. Further, he had almost comparable numbers last year before being shut down due to the elbow injury--almost the same batting avg and HRs, but without as many stolen bases. He wants to be the best, wants to be the unique two-way elite player, and has shown he's capable of such special achievements. The risk is he might suffer another arm injury, yes, and I worry about that. But I don't consider that the end of his career, so let him do the two-way approach that he loves and stop pushing him to concentrate just on hitting.
Ohtani is the Goat, an Ace pitcher with a career 3.01 ERA and 11.1 Ks (can win 15 games with a 2.33 ERA in a season) and also hit 50 HRs and have 50 stolen bases. Speed Power and an Ace pitcher, even Babe Ruth never did that.
@@teddy-ez5zt excellent point. Also, the year he won 15 games. He had a horrible Angels offense supporting him. There were 7 games that year he lost or had a no decision when he gave up 2, 1, and even 0 runs. Would’ve easily won 20 with an average offense to support him.
It's wrong to just make him a hitter. Beause Shohei can strike out the best player on any team. He proved that in the World Baseball Classic when he struck out Trout who was considered the top hitter on Team USA.
Shohei Ohtani will be the unanimously NL MVP, and it's not even close. There is absolutely no case for Lindor to be MVP, it's stupidity absurd and absurdity stupid. Lindor is batting .271 and has an OPS of .836 when was the last time someone won the MVP with an OPS that low? He is literally tailing The FACE OF BASEBALL in every offensive category, and it's not even close. As of 9-19-2024, Lindor is tailing Ohtani 29 RBI and it might even be wilder by the last game. Mookie Bett missed 3 months and two starting pitchers (Glasnow and Yamamoto) also missed two months, Kershaw was back and then out again. Miller and Buehler can't find the strike zone, and Freeman is there in body but his mind and spirit are with his son, Ohtani pretty much carried the Dodgers, and with some help from Teo, the Dodgers probably wouldn't be winning the division if not for Ohtani's offensive prowess (51 home runs, 123 Run and 120 RBI). The Dodgers without Ohtani would be fighting for a Wild Card spot right now and San Deigo Padres would be winning the division. Ohtani is MORE Valuable to the Dodgers than (or as much) to Lindor's Mets. DH can't win MVP? and yet a few pitchers have won MVP in the past, and none of these guys come close to Ohtani offensive prowess. If pitcher can win MVP so can a DH. This is the media baiting and selling the news. After today and Ohtani 51-51, there is NO CASE for Lindor to be the NL MVP. I would dare say Shohei Ohtani is the Major League MVP. The last pitcher to win the NL MVP was Clayton Kershaw in 2014, and in the American League was Justin Verlander in 2011. Kershaw was 21-3 with an ERA 1.77. Verlander was 24-5 with an ERA 2.40. I am willing to bet Kershaw and J. Verlander never hit a home run or stole a base in their MVP year. While pitchers are mainly a defensive position offensively they don't do much and yet two have won MVP in the last 14 years, so this absurd argument a DH CAN NOT be the MVP is kinda stupid in itself.
I’ve been saying this for a while once he returned to pitching activities, I believe if he’s going to pitch in the playoffs they use him as a relief pitcher no need to rush starting until next season where he’ll be able to rack up innings
@@edwardhernandez8774 well yea he should be but I’m saying in terms of 2024 if for whatever reason they decide to pitch him it should be in a close or relief role
I like Steve Phillips opinion on Ohtani, don't make him pitch for the Dodgers. Every starting pitcher for that team has gone to the IL and it would be damage to his career if Ohtani pitches again.
Just to get everyone excited for the post season, here are Ohtani's stats in the WBC: At-bats: 23 Hits: 10 Runs: 9 RBIs: 8 Home runs: 1 BB: 10 (walks) Strikeouts: 6 Stolen bases: 1 Average: .435 OBP: .606 SLG: .739 OPS: 1.345
Hyperbole is the order of the day on youtube. The best I've ever seen happens every day. Best offensive season ever? I don't know. Sure it's up there, but over 150+ years you can find other offensive seasons that some might say were the best ever. Let's not forget the past entirely here. Do some comparisons to show Ohtani against others who might make the case.
3:49 Ohtani is and will always want to be known as pitcher, so he will rather not to bat at all if you don't let him pitch. If it is in part of his contract then Dodgers cannot prevent him from pitching if he is healthy enough to do so.
Oh come on, not this crap again. Let him pitch for Christ Sake! The guy is a Pitcher. He might get injured? Yes. But that's what he wants, to be a pitcher and we love to see him pitch. If he makes the decision, that's ok, but don't force it on him you joy killers
He wants to be a pitcher. He wants to be involved in every ball pitched. If possible, he wants to pitch and bat every game. That's how much he enjoys the game...
He is too good of a pitcher to never use him. But he shouldnt start his season as a pitcher until August . His arm could likely handle a 2-3 month season every year counting the playoffs. And the playoffs are really the only time they need his arm
BRUH HE IS A PITCHER. LOL AND STILL PEOPLE COMPARE AND BRING UP GARBAGE NAMES WITH THIS DUDE. DUDE IS FROM ANOTHER GALAXY. STOP HATING. WE NOT GONNA HAVE ANOTHER SHOHEI.
"The greatest offensive season in the history of baseball" because of stolen bases?! Get real. Stealing a base has never been easier with the recent rule changes and enlarged bases and base stealing itself has never meant less than it does now with the game being all about the mighty home run. It's the greatest season in the history of baseball if you ignore the history of baseball.
😂😂😂😂😅 you're white and upset because a white ain't doing it. 😅😅😅😅😅 Yes stealing is easier but hitting home run has never been harder. It balance itself out. No one else is doing it ...
*This is very surprising (!)* The way the Dodgers handled this is shameful and real baseball fans should know it (!) But no one is talking about it . . .
Its not even close to the best offensive season in history. Its not even the best offensive season THIS year. Aaron Judge is having a much better offensive season.
If performace enhancing drugs mak,es you playbetter like gettinghomeruns in the range of 60 or 70 then it should make me a betterbaseball hitter on record cause appare tly you people think drugs makes you swing a bat harder and longer vs those other guys experiences
It doesn't do what you think it does. It helps you recover faster. That means, when others are tired, you can still perform. There are enhancing drugs that makes you more focused and react faster, what logicly helps you perform and gives you a huge advantage, it's just simply cheating. There is a reason it's banned in all of sports. You should do better research.
Our friend is likely on a few things, but nothing like what Bonds was on. He was all in and either was too dumb or simply didn't care if everyone knew.
3:35 I think that is not right. In 2023, he was on pace to hit 50+HR and 25+SB before leaving in 135 games while pitching. He won't probably steal 50+ while picthing because of injury risk, but he showed he can hit around 50HR and steal 20 while pitching. His offensive numbers are very constant just like Ichiro and Pujols. 2023 stats: 135games .304 44HR 95RBI 20SB OPS1.066 23games 132innings 10W-5L ERA3.14 167SO
ohtani 2022 season 15 win 9lose ERA2.33 fourth place by Cy Young Award vote. 2023 season 10 win 5 lose ERA3.13 and homerun 44. ohtani is a genius of the baseball.
I wish people would stop saying that Ohtani should stop pitching. It's literally what the dude wants and a big part of what makes him so special.
I dont know after seeing the foot long scar on his arm last night during an interview (had never seen that), i worry that this may mess up his whole career but yeah its what he wants to do.
I’m pretty sure one more and he’s done. I agree, he should stop pitching.. Too much to lose.
I know. But it's still debateable what he can do if he played one way. Be better than Wille Mays as a hitter & runner. Or better than Cy Young & Koufax as a pitcher. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the Gold Glove if he plays a position.
Remember: Ohtani is a pitcher on rehab from TJ surgery...still earning his money. There are dozens of pitchers who were sitting at home on TJ rehab watching this game on TV. Saw that on another channel.
Ohtani is not human. He is something divine.
are we forgetting that ohtani's 2021-2023 is just as historic? the only player to fully compete as a two-way player. nobody has done it either. he's constantly setting the standard.
Ohtani is a top 5 pitcher in the NL. He can realistically win 20 games (15 with the Angels where he lost or had ND in 7 games when he allowed 2 or less runs in 2022), strike out 250, and his offense will "suffer" a bit. Suffering for him is 40 home runs and 25 steals. I think the Dodgers will certainly take these number any season. Crazy to not let him pitch at least a couple of seasons.
Agreed. These boring people all the time with the same lame ass talking points. He can pitch 2 more seasons easily.
I don’t think he’ll steal as much during the season where he will be pitching
They both forget that Ohtani is a pitcher.
In the same ballpark he struck out Trout in the 9th to win the WBC and MVP lol
Steve Phillips is generally a good baseball analyst, but he's mistaken in arguing for Ohtani just being a hitter. It's very clear that Shohei loves to pitch and loves to combine pitching and hitting, even though the workload is much greater. Further, he had almost comparable numbers last year before being shut down due to the elbow injury--almost the same batting avg and HRs, but without as many stolen bases. He wants to be the best, wants to be the unique two-way elite player, and has shown he's capable of such special achievements. The risk is he might suffer another arm injury, yes, and I worry about that. But I don't consider that the end of his career, so let him do the two-way approach that he loves and stop pushing him to concentrate just on hitting.
GREATEST TO EVER DO IT
Ohtani is the Goat, an Ace pitcher with a career 3.01 ERA and 11.1 Ks (can win 15 games with a 2.33 ERA in a season) and also hit 50 HRs and have 50 stolen bases. Speed Power and an Ace pitcher, even Babe Ruth never did that.
Not a large enough sample size.
@@demarcdegasolhe’s pitched more innings than Babe Ruth haha. But yes, Ohtani needs to play out his contract before being crowned the GOAT
I’ll give him about 5-7 years of his prime, maybe 3-5 years two way
@@teddy-ez5zt excellent point. Also, the year he won 15 games. He had a horrible Angels offense supporting him. There were 7 games that year he lost or had a no decision when he gave up 2, 1, and even 0 runs. Would’ve easily won 20 with an average offense to support him.
Imagine if that guy decides to focus 100% on pitching. Probably new records to be broken.
Just admire it㊗️
I want to see the quad 5 from Ohtani, 55-55. Now that is a sexy number.
This is why I resent the PED era so much. 62, 50/50 Mookie Betts, Freddy Freeman ect. Love this game. ❤
He is pitcher
60/60
If it was not for a perfect strike from the Marlins outfielder that got Ohtani by a half step at third base, he’d have hit for the cycle as well.
💯
It's wrong to just make him a hitter. Beause Shohei can strike out the best player on any team. He proved that in the World Baseball Classic when he struck out Trout who was considered the top hitter on Team USA.
Shohei Ohtani will be the unanimously NL MVP, and it's not even close. There is absolutely no case for Lindor to be MVP, it's stupidity absurd and absurdity stupid. Lindor is batting .271 and has an OPS of .836 when was the last time someone won the MVP with an OPS that low? He is literally tailing The FACE OF BASEBALL in every offensive category, and it's not even close. As of 9-19-2024, Lindor is tailing Ohtani 29 RBI and it might even be wilder by the last game.
Mookie Bett missed 3 months and two starting pitchers (Glasnow and Yamamoto) also missed two months, Kershaw was back and then out again. Miller and Buehler can't find the strike zone, and Freeman is there in body but his mind and spirit are with his son, Ohtani pretty much carried the Dodgers, and with some help from Teo, the Dodgers probably wouldn't be winning the division if not for Ohtani's offensive prowess (51 home runs, 123 Run and 120 RBI). The Dodgers without Ohtani would be fighting for a Wild Card spot right now and San Deigo Padres would be winning the division. Ohtani is MORE Valuable to the Dodgers than (or as much) to Lindor's Mets.
DH can't win MVP? and yet a few pitchers have won MVP in the past, and none of these guys come close to Ohtani offensive prowess. If pitcher can win MVP so can a DH. This is the media baiting and selling the news. After today and Ohtani 51-51, there is NO CASE for Lindor to be the NL MVP.
I would dare say Shohei Ohtani is the Major League MVP.
The last pitcher to win the NL MVP was Clayton Kershaw in 2014, and in the American League was Justin Verlander in 2011.
Kershaw was 21-3 with an ERA 1.77.
Verlander was 24-5 with an ERA 2.40.
I am willing to bet Kershaw and J. Verlander never hit a home run or stole a base in their MVP year. While pitchers are mainly a defensive position offensively they don't do much and yet two have won MVP in the last 14 years, so this absurd argument a DH CAN NOT be the MVP is kinda stupid in itself.
Goatani. Ridiculously amazing.
Make him a closer, less wear and tear right?
people unsure about how he handles post season pressure??
pressure like... pitching to mike trout, 9th inning for the WBC title clinching out?
haters always gonna hate, US media just cannot accept a foreigner to be the GOAT in MLB history
WBC 😂
He want this, I see his goal he want that pendant and the next one.
What if they make Ohtani a reliever?
I’ve been saying this for a while once he returned to pitching activities, I believe if he’s going to pitch in the playoffs they use him as a relief pitcher no need to rush starting until next season where he’ll be able to rack up innings
I think he like to continuing starter, but for me closer and dominant batting
@@edwardhernandez8774 well yea he should be but I’m saying in terms of 2024 if for whatever reason they decide to pitch him it should be in a close or relief role
People he was also a few feet on a throw from hitting for the cycle too tonight
I like Steve Phillips opinion on Ohtani, don't make him pitch for the Dodgers. Every starting pitcher for that team has gone to the IL and it would be damage to his career if Ohtani pitches again.
Shohei's RISP was 5/5. A perfect day for Shohei !!!
The GOAT. He passed Bonds for me.
I'm believing ohtani achieve 100 wins as a pitcher and 400 HR as a hitter in his carrier.
Best player on the planet, in human history.
Just to get everyone excited for the post season, here are Ohtani's stats in the WBC:
At-bats: 23
Hits: 10
Runs: 9
RBIs: 8
Home runs: 1
BB: 10 (walks)
Strikeouts: 6
Stolen bases: 1
Average: .435
OBP: .606
SLG: .739
OPS: 1.345
I think he has better squad with this, looking forward for the postseason
were any of them dudes with 4 jacks in a game asked/begged to pitch in the post season?
Hyperbole is the order of the day on youtube. The best I've ever seen happens every day.
Best offensive season ever? I don't know. Sure it's up there, but over 150+ years you can find other offensive seasons that some might say were the best ever.
Let's not forget the past entirely here. Do some comparisons to show Ohtani against others who might make the case.
55/55 seems reasonably in play if he doesn't sit that much with playoffs around the corner.
3:49 Ohtani is and will always want to be known as pitcher, so he will rather not to bat at all if you don't let him pitch. If it is in part of his contract then Dodgers cannot prevent him from pitching if he is healthy enough to do so.
Oh come on, not this crap again. Let him pitch for Christ Sake! The guy is a Pitcher. He might get injured? Yes. But that's what he wants, to be a pitcher and we love to see him pitch. If he makes the decision, that's ok, but don't force it on him you joy killers
locked in
Maybe, the dodgers should rest him for the rest of season n have him be to pitch for the playoff games.
Lets not forget he is rehabbing from injury
He had better rates last year....while pitching.
While Judge is a great player, we’re now living in the Ohtani era.
Forreal, just make him a hitter.
pretty sure you can just stick him in the outfield.
@@Mellowyellow8888 Exactly
I want him to be a pitcher and a catcher at the same time. He might have the speed to pitch to himself. JAJAJA
He wants to be a pitcher. He wants to be involved in every ball pitched. If possible, he wants to pitch and bat every game. That's how much he enjoys the game...
@@georgenish
そのとおりだぁ。
Chipojo, Miami is asking for Divine Justice!!!.You should Pay for it.
He isn’t a puppet. HIs deal has always been to hit and PITCH!
He is too good of a pitcher to never use him. But he shouldnt start his season as a pitcher until August . His arm could likely handle a 2-3 month season every year counting the playoffs. And the playoffs are really the only time they need his arm
Crazy how it will be Ohtani's first playoff ... how bad is angels lol
このまま打者専念するべきなのか？
Remember how much steroids Bonds Sosa and McGwire had to take to hit 50-60 hr.!!! (and nothing else).😅
BRUH HE IS A PITCHER. LOL AND STILL PEOPLE COMPARE AND BRING UP GARBAGE NAMES WITH THIS DUDE. DUDE IS FROM ANOTHER GALAXY. STOP HATING. WE NOT GONNA HAVE ANOTHER SHOHEI.
Be humble like Shohei. The Phillies are DROOLING 😊.
Fernando Tatis 2 grand slams in the same INNING!
This white haired dude hates Ohtani.
That stat line is fucking crazy!
Embarrassing Miami Marlins organization why not just hand him the 50/50
"The greatest offensive season in the history of baseball" because of stolen bases?! Get real. Stealing a base has never been easier with the recent rule changes and enlarged bases and base stealing itself has never meant less than it does now with the game being all about the mighty home run. It's the greatest season in the history of baseball if you ignore the history of baseball.
riiiiight……
😂😂😂😂😅 you're white and upset because a white ain't doing it. 😅😅😅😅😅
Yes stealing is easier but hitting home run has never been harder. It balance itself out. No one else is doing it ...
you jealous much? you wrote a whole paragraph of bs just to demean someone's achievements , shut the fuck already boomer
BEST STAT FROM A REHABBING PITCHER?🤣
*This is very surprising (!)* The way the Dodgers handled this is shameful and real baseball fans should know it (!) But no one is talking about it . . .
No.
Its not even close to the best offensive season in history. Its not even the best offensive season THIS year. Aaron Judge is having a much better offensive season.
If performace enhancing drugs mak,es you playbetter like gettinghomeruns in the range of 60 or 70 then it should make me a betterbaseball hitter on record cause appare tly you people think drugs makes you swing a bat harder and longer vs those other guys experiences
Are you a MLB power hitter?
It doesn't do what you think it does. It helps you recover faster. That means, when others are tired, you can still perform. There are enhancing drugs that makes you more focused and react faster, what logicly helps you perform and gives you a huge advantage, it's just simply cheating. There is a reason it's banned in all of sports. You should do better research.
Our friend is likely on a few things, but nothing like what Bonds was on. He was all in and either was too dumb or simply didn't care if everyone knew.
A drugs cant make you swing a bat more accurate so there home runs are their homeruns
lol wtf it gives you way more power and strength so you hit harder and farther so yes, yes it does affect there efforts so it’s scraped
Fly ball vs hr
You are an idiot, sir.
Yoo r an 1di0t, sir.
Try again in English.
he cant even speak english
alright prawn boy
he still speaks it better than cunts like you
3:35 I think that is not right. In 2023, he was on pace to hit 50+HR and 25+SB before leaving in 135 games while pitching. He won't probably steal 50+ while picthing because of injury risk, but he showed he can hit around 50HR and steal 20 while pitching. His offensive numbers are very constant just like Ichiro and Pujols.
2023 stats: 135games .304 44HR 95RBI 20SB OPS1.066 23games 132innings 10W-5L ERA3.14 167SO
ohtani 2022 season 15 win 9lose ERA2.33 fourth place by Cy Young Award vote.
2023 season 10 win 5 lose ERA3.13 and homerun 44. ohtani is a genius of the baseball.
Can’t pitch? I guess I’ll side hustle as a DH.
Shohei Ohtani should apologize to the founder of the 50-50 club.The club had a very short life.
OHTANI .294 51 HOMERS 120 RBI
JUDGE .321 53 HOMERS 136 RBI
I get the stolen bases but cmon
ITS HIS PITCHING THAT SEPERATES HIM
Stop hating