@ great video tho, the blame falls more on the players not showing up in big moments then Boone or the front office but people are always quick to blame the manager first
in his current state it's true, i think he had like 30th percentile jump per statcast his "outfielder jump" reaction and burst were both negative (maybe side effect from playing so much IF) but he's merely average now. also, his arm was ranked 69/81 in RF based on average arm speed... it's not end all be all, but he's not the same HOF RF he once was
@ he made some excellent technical plays off the wall in the WS. He’s regressed athletically, but he’s still skilled, especially compared to a guy like Soto.
This video is really coming off as a salty fan who is angry about their team losing. So is your solution just to run it back? Because if the dodgers were healthy and had another starting pitcher it would've been a sweep. Also don't the Yankees like never win against teams outside the ALC in the playoffs? (14-29 against Non ALC teams since 2010). Ig you could keep running it back but there is a clear issue here that has nothing to do with one inning, one series, or even one playoffs. I really don't see how this video has provided any valuable insight.
The solution is incremental improvements. Consistent contention will lead to rings. What else is there? Tear down the entire infrastructure of the team because they lost in the World Series?
@@AndThatsBaseball Incremental? How long is incremental... because that's already 14 years of statistics. You can brush it off as "oh its a one in a million chance" and maybe it was, in that instance. But these small mistakes stack up, and will eventually catch up to you. And it also doesn't excuse any team going down 3-0 in the world series. Luck can win you games, consistency wins you championships, and not consistent contention, but consistent good baseball. And yes, I think that getting to the world series ironically might be the worst thing that could've happened to the Yankees, Aaron boone will stay and they now think that they were "that close" and possible not change much to their system. And the cycle repeats.
Statistically, both teams are good. With exceptional individual records from both side. So, where is the gap? The answer is clear. It's from their fundamental and mentality.
@@cococock241872 likes vs zero likes. I think the numbers actually prove him right and you wrong. If you watched Yanks all season long like I did and did not conclude that they had poor fundamentals, then your brain simply is underperforming.
*doesnt believe the Yankees have issues fundamentally and that Aaron Boone isn't the problem *proceeds to talk about issues that fundamentals and good coaching would fix, like poor communication in the field, taking one's eye off the play, and putting players in positions they shouldnt be in*
@AndThatsBaseball making key adjustments, mostly. I'm a basketball fan who occasionally dabbles in baseball content, and am not well versed on a lot of things baseball, but I know in basketball, if your giving up major turnovers, taking your eyes off the ball and your man and blowing defensive assignments, coaches make those adjustments. They change schemes, they pull players, the enphasize communication. That Rizzo and Cole error was bad communication on both ends at its core, and that read a coaching issue. Communication on defense is a coaching thing. At the very least make adjustments, pull guys, get better defenders in.
@@attackthem8908 baseball is such a different game. At a little league or high school or even college level, yes, communication is on the coaches. But this game doesn’t really get more complex as you get to the highest levels like scheming in basketball or football does. It’s just more talented players playing the same game they played as kids. Miscommunications on exact plays that these pros have been making since they were literal 10 year olds shouldn’t be on the manager. In general, managers are hardly impacting on field activity outside of matchups. I appreciate your thoughts, it’s interesting to have a perspective from a fan of another sport, because I can see why these mistakes are perceived that way.
@AndThatsBaseball I'm a day late so you'll probably never see this, but I love this video because you thoroughly breakdown why the simpleton thinking controlling the narrative is incorrect. People are so fn dumb & they immediately jump to the double digit IQ, convenient explanation. Subscribed.
@@AndThatsBaseballI disagree. Yanks focus and priority on practicing the fundamentals was ignored by the organization all year, and for many years prior. It came back to bite them in a big way. Period. You practice stuff so much so that it becomes second nature. And so that stress does not come into the equation so much in a do or die game under the brightest of lights. Yanks need to make some changes in their philosophy and training. Will they? Probably not unfortunately.
It was Boone's fault for not emphasizing fundamentals throughout the year. It was Boone's fault for trying to be his players' friend rather than their manager throughout his entire tenure. It's funny how people will pick and choose whether to blame the leadership or the workers based on which argument they feel like making. But the reality is, it is ALWAYS the responsibility of the leader to make sure the workers are doing what they're supposed to be doing, and Boone is absolutely not cut out for that. If there is one bad apple, obviously you can chalk that up to a player going rogue. But when the majority of the team shows nonchalance and lack of focus, that is absolutely a leadership problem. Huff all the copium you want, but the Yankees are not winning a World Series so long as Boone is the manager. Even if they recruit a full team of players who are aggressively practicing focus and fundamentals on their own, Boone will still make decisions like putting a World Series game in the hands of a recovering pitcher who hasn't played in over a month and then still argue that it wasn't bad decision. Boone can't even hold himself accountable, let alone his players.
You’re completely ignoring the fact that LA was severely injured this year and still did what they did lol if they were at full strength, it would’ve been a clean sweep and none of the games would’ve been close.
Severely injured? Where? The rotation? They signed a bunch of guys knowing they have injury histories. Either way I don’t think that matters to the point of this vid
@ may, stone, Ryan, gonsolin, sheehan, grove, Glasnow, kershaw, frasso, Phillips all out. Shohei & Freddie playing hurt and Max Muncy was nonexistent the entire series. I understand the cope might be pretty intense right now you’re trying to make this series sound closer than it actually was and it wasn’t. This was one of the most lopsided World Series I’ve seen since Boston swept Colorado in 07 the Yankees are not on the same planet as the Dodgers.
@@AndThatsBaseballKnowing or not knowing a players injury history dosent change the fact that the dodgers had an injured pitching staff and wasn’t at 100% strength. Although it isn’t related to the video, simply knowing if a player is or isn’t injury prone doesn’t change the fact that they were injured and weren’t able to contribute
"This team came very very close to winning the whole thing".....Sorry, but that's far from the truth. They lost 4-1 and their only W was against rookie pitchers. Yankees were getting swept if the Dodgers had 1 more regular starting pitcher
@ It’s okay like your channel name says “that’s baseball”. However I do think there’s an argument that there’s no need for any of those plays to be made in that situation. Like why is Judge trying to double up kike when they’re up 5-0? Or volpe trying to get the lead runner up 5-0. And it’s without a doubt the dodgers were the better all around team.
They had a 5-0 lead with a chance to take it to Game 6. They absolutely could have won the series at this stage. It was still an uphill climb (on the order of a 20% chance), but completely possible.
This is pretty much my point. The team played a sloppy inning that cost them a game once they already pretty much lost the series with their bats. It’s not an organizational issue, they were outplayed for the first 3 games then blew game 5.
I think a part of Yankee fans frustrations is that they lost to the Dodgers without a lot of key contributors which could’ve easily tanked their season. They had an entire starting rotation on the IL including their only 2 pitchers to eclipse 100 innings for their team, while Freeman was dealing with 3 simultaneous injuries(2 of which are regular season IL stints) and even Ohtani tore his labrum although that was only noticed in games 3-5. It’s not convenient to say that 85% of the Dodgers were simply better than the Yankees so something like “fundamentals” will take the blame even though the former is the more coherent explanation
The Dodgers have the best roster in MLB, even with their injuries, and everyone knows it. I don't think it should've been seen as that surprising that the Yankees lost.
It was Hernandez that went from 2nd to 3rd on that play. Not Edman. Yankees happened to lose two games partially due to errors on defense. There were other reasons they lost those two games. In game 1, they ran out of pitching in the 10th inning after Weaver left. In game 5, Kahnle loaded the bases with no outs leading to two runs. Game 5 still could have been won and game 1 was nearly won, but Cortes couldn't get the third out.
I'm not even a Yankees fan but the 3rd Error definitely made me cringe not gonna lie and I also thought that was the biggest misplay out of the 3 errors so glad someone point it out
Yes and the playoffs will expose that. If teams don't understand all situations with different outs and different men on base and are practicing 9 man defensive situations, they are going to have issues. This is the aspect that needs to be discussed more and understood. If you don't understand the chess aspect of baseball you don't really know baseball
“They came very, very close”Winning 1 game in the WS is close now. “Lowered expectations” 😂 The franchise is not the same old franchise we used to know. Lucky AL was so weak they got lucky and made it to the WS.
As a Yankee fan who’s watched almost every game since Boone has been manager… yes. He doesn’t give two shits about fundamentals. As long as he his following what Cashman and the nerd department want him to do, he’s got a job for a long time. Dude has been in baseball his whole life and can’t teach fundamentals it’s crazy
They shouldnt be learning them at this level, but they SHOULD be revising them at any level. The yanks are flawed in fundamental situational baseball. Yes there were things they were good at that the #'s show but watching Mookie play balls the way he did vs any yanks outfielder or infielder not named Verdugo was eye opening. Especially when looking on the other side everyone's ignoring called hitting that didnt exist for them outside of hr's. We can look at the analytics & #'s all we want but if we're seeing the same result with our own eyes (yes eye test) & their scouts read us like a book, something fundamental at the core of this team has to change 🤷♂️
@@AndThatsBaseballit’s not about learning fundamentals in the majors it’s about keeping those skills sharp. In basketball the top players grind the fundamentals every time they practice it’s clear the Yankees don’t do that with consistent errors throughout the season. The Yankees are ranked 25th on errors per game allowing 0.58 errors per game. This is a clear lack in focus on grinding the fundamentals from Boone and the training staff.
@@AndThatsBaseballWell plenty of sources have said the Yankees minor league system doesn't teach the fundamentals either. The Yankees are also the ones signing players who are ass at fundamentals and only care about big hits. I'd say that's an organizational failure.
I love how this whole video is base on numbers but then proceeds to call the Dodgers Lucky. The scouting report was right. The Yankees weren’t even close.
It’s not lucky. They got the big hits when the Yankees messed up. The Yankees didn’t capitalize when the dodgers messed up. Luck and timing goes into the series but the dodgers got the job done.
@@AndThatsBaseball Luck and timing are also dependent on being able to take advantage of the opportunities when they present themselves. The Dodgers gave the Yankees chances to do the same, and the Yankees couldn't capitalize. That is the underlying difference. One might even call it the...fundamental difference...
I appreciate you going against the grain of every other baseball talking head, but I think you are still kind of missing the point, ATB. if you want to blame any individuals, you have to blame the leader of the team. that's how effective teams work. Aaron Boone's job is to take the blame as much as the credit. Roberts is the definition of that kind of manager and it's why we see his face again every october. I really expected some better analysis here, but to me it seemed like a bunch of circuitous blame game garbage trying to come up with excuses, and honestly it points directly to the real problem that the yankees have and have always had. they value stardom more than teamwork. the yankees are a bunch of all-stars, but the dodgers play like a team. it's not surprising to me that their biggest playoff threat came from the padres - a team of relatively few stars who take the field like a well oiled machine. everyone can see it, and that is why everyone is talking the same points that were in that scouting report. to your statistical analogy, the yankees either roll ones or sixes... and not much in between. the dodgers roll fives every time. when was the last time LA fell apart like a little league team? the yankees have a hubris problem and until they and their fans admit it, they will continue to be shocked when they roll snake eyes against teams who play like a team. I am a SF giants fan for life; I can't stand the dodgers. but I have to admit that it was (and is) impressive to watch that team play. they have their stars, but somehow they are more than the sum of their parts. the yankees are just judge. they're cole. they're stanton hitting a solo home run. the dodgers get on base and bring each other home. the dichotomy of team culture and strategy (for two teams with deep pockets, too) could not have been on better display than this series. which way of playing the game is more effective? we got our answer loud and clear.
@@cobalt789 the reason the Dodgers “feel like a team” is because the bottom of their order is simply better than the bottom of the Yankees order. Outside of Ohtani, Betts and Freeman and then Soto, Judge and Stanton(Stanton is a clear outlier here but he was their other big bat in the playoffs), the Dodgers have 4 more extremely talented players who are capable of being all-stars in Smith, Muncy, Edman and Teoscar. Would you say that the Yankees next best guys like Wells, Jazz, Volpe and Gleyber compare to the Dodgers 4? No, the Dodgers are just simply more talented even outside of their trio of MVPs. It has less to do with fundamentals than you believe and more to do with just having a more talented roster.
Forget if it was Muncy or Vesia on a podcast saying the way they train is influenced by the work ethic of their big stars. For baserunning they apparently have a little chart that shows if you're staying sharp with good leads (green), kinda off (yellow), or slacking with bad leads (red). Anyone in the red, Freeman gives them a talking-to. Mookie does BP for hours to get his swing right. Ohtani is super methodical with all his drills because he analyzes what he did wrong or right. That's the kind of leadership the Dodgers have and it carries into the rest of the team -- the quote was something like, "if our stars are doing that, then the rest of us have to be the same." Their discipline at the plate speaks for itself. Idk if the Yankees have that same kind of mentality going through the team top to bottom, but the WS sure didn't make it look like they do.
It brings me so much joy to see the Yankees have LOLYanks moments. I can only hope many more are to come. They were a weak team compared to the stacked NL to keep it real
Actually, the two Key plays in the inning were running plays. First Hernandez busting it to 2nd base after seeing Judge drop the ball prevented a force-out. Then Betts hustling it to first base rather than pulling a Stanton Jog allowed four more runs to score.
I swear not enough people bring up the fact that the Dodgers won because they didn't quit on plays. Kike busted his ass (two Hernandezs, you gotta be specific) and so did Mookie. Edman took third in the 8th on the first sac fly right in front of Judge. Aggressive base running.
Reminder the Dodgers scouting report on the Yankees was something like "Put the ball in play and let them inflict self harm" I really think some High School teams would have had better defense. It's an atrocity.
As a life long Dodgers fan I'll just say this: You Yankee fans need to ease up on Judge. He got you there and did his best. He had a bad WS. Give him a break.
Given how much Aaron chokes, and how he played center field, I thought to myself at the start of the series that I knew he was going to make an error. Maybe in the regular season he doesn't get distracted by the runner because he's not in the right frame of mind during the world series. If he makes not a single error, then he's a known choker, and he makes an error during the world series, are we really surprised? I'm not saying the error was a big deal, but it was definitely a choke not a one in a million. If you never make errors and then you do now, it's even more of a choke!
Hello, Dodger fan here, but I respect the video and I feel the frustration you felt at the collapse. I think the main issue (correct me if I'm wrong) is that it being just a fundamentals thing isn't the only issue. I think you were trying to prove that it is a culmination of problems. One general thing that does not get talk about is the fall classic causes players to be hyper-aware and it is just a team filled with players that already experienced the world series vs a team who had some veteran experience. Errors are a part of the game. No one is arguing that. But in a fall classic, errors are magnified. That's where the whole fundamentals things come in. One point that doesn't get talked about is if the collapse happened during the regular season, how would it be handled differently? The difference is what is on the line. The storyline revolves around the Yankees being down 0-3 in the world series. They have to play perfectly. They blew game 1. That had to hurt the ego. Games 2 and 3 were close on paper, but it was evident that the walk-off had rattled some yankee players. It also didn't help a guy, who was supposed to be injured and playing on one foot, was the one causing the most damage. We can talk about analytics all we want but they can't tell the outcome of the story. But baseball is the most unpredictable sport. You mentioned they don't have a fundamentals issue and that is fine. Teams with no fundamental issues can still commit errors. The difference is that if you were to put the same inning in the regular season, adjustments can be made to prevent it from happening as much as possible. It is one game out of 162 in a season and you can still be in contention for a play off spot. When it comes to the playoffs, however, things changes. You no longer have a long season ahead of you. The adjustments should have been made. you only have a set number of games now. 5 in the DS and 7 in the CS and WS. You cannot have time to think about these things. You have to play baseball to the best of your abilities which makes errors that much meaningful. That's why it doesn't fall entirely on the Manager. I feel your frustration with the amount of mistakes Roberts did during the 17*, 18* WS 19,22,23 DS and 21 CS. The pitching can change entire outcomes. I understand how frustrating blown leads can feel. I feel this 5th inning was really a mental collapse of a team who had been just trying to play perfect baseball and simply over thought it. In that moment, you're not thinking about the score. You're thinking about how to get out of the inning. Judge wanted to force a double play. It didn't work. Volpe wanted to get the runner out at third to set up a double play next batter. It didn't work. A simple miscommunication rendered out a run. A pitcher who is undoubtedly frustrated that he had to work extra during an inning he virtually got out of. And a first basemen who felt that he was too far from a runner that has speed. Again, errors are a part of the game. It can happen to anyone but we must also admit that the Yankees made poor decisions both managerial and player wise. This whole make the Yankees play means that when push comes to shove, let them make "hard" plays not routine. That the dodgers needed to force the Yankees to make those difficult decisions because they were the "worst defensive positioned team." Force the yankees into relays. Test their arms. Test their accuracy. Test their thinking. This isn't fundamentals. They were in do or die and the dodgers capitalized on it. Fundamentals is have basic understanding of how the game works. Yes ground balls and fly balls are part of the fundamental, but what do you do after?. To judge, he wanted to force a double play. To volpe, he wanted to set up a double play. These were niche scenarios that can have a lasting impact and these what if's are gonna start. The only one that I won't let slide is the 1st base. Regardless of the excuses they both should have played it to cover but again mentally they should have been out at that point. The result is the result and we can't linger on it. We can chalk it up to 3 things. 1. The dodgers were a superior team in clutch. 2. The dodgers wanted to win it more. 3. Experience. The dodgers more or less have a consistent team that makes it to the World series 4 times in the last 7 years with almost the majority of players having been to the WS vs the Yankees who have (to my understanding) a few veterans who made it to the world series and the rest experiencing it for the first time. The Yankees as a team have not made it to the WS in 15 years vs the Dodgers, who had been to the World Series 4 times (including this year) in the past seven. Errors happen. Bad Managerial Decisions happen. Batters slumps happen. Analytics can say a lot but they can't predict everything. And to the Yankees, they were given a bad hand and suffered all three. I, as a fan, been there with you when the dodgers lost in aforementioned series. I too was frustrated but the only thing they as a team can do is learn and practice so they can prevent it. Good Game and We hope to see a rematch with yours very soon
You’re right. All the mistakes were just a terrible coincidence, and the Dodgers scouting report specifically recommending the team focus on making the Yankees make plays was actually incorrect, despite the recommendation completely playing out in their favor. The dodgers should be hiring you.
Again, the Yankees had more success reaching on balls in play than the Dodgers during the series. The timing of the errors is what lost the Yankees a game.
@AndThatsBaseball wouldnt those timings be based on fundamentals though? Judge missing a routine fly is a fundamental play on its own that i learned in little league.
@@AndThatsBaseball you're basing everything on numbers and removing the human element of chaos. Expecting the same results especially when things such as nerves, feelings or pressure can never be predicted. Yes number wise you will be right but did you account for anything related to being human and making such simple mistakes?
Is that a fundamental issue? Or a pressure issue? Because the argument being made by everyone is that we saw this sloppy team all year and it was bound to bite them. Aaron judge didn’t make an error all year. If Aaron judge can’t handle the pressure, I don’t think that’s indicative of a team wide fundamentals issue.
this video is pure copium. i watched the yankees all year because my coworker likes them, and they had so many fundamentals issues. plus dodgers were not full strength, with so many injuries... yanks completely failing wasnt luck, they just are not a cohesive team w good fundamentals. yanks limped into the WS. dodgers kicked their asses because they are a strong team and don't mess up really basic things when it matters. we saw this the entire season, so many bad games for the yanks, and this gets exacerbated under pressure. judge needs to wake up in post season. boone isnt rlly the issue, it's the players.
I disagree with you on this video. They should go over it in practice who gets the bag with Cole at first, and they need to practice the plays more that happened with the runner to third base. Lastly, they need to emphasize getting the ball secured before throwing out a runner and having good outfield fundamentals.
As a dodgers fan who’s heard people wanting Dave Robert’s head for the postseason struggles, in my mind a coaching change is not what yall need rn, Dave got us safely into October every year, we were bound to win it at some point, same thing with the Yankees, yall just made the WS, sacking the coach that got you there bc you lost one series that as dodger fan had me nervous af by game 5 even though we got to 3-0 is not the play
This is something else I should’ve addressed. Roberts was hated for years but now he has 2 rings. Consistently fielding competitive teams and incremental improvements are what leads to championships. The dodgers were the best team in the NL plenty of seasons where they didn’t even win the pennant. And they lost 2 World Series under Roberts before winning one. Doesn’t mean the org was flawed, they were still the best in terms of process by far.
The thing about the Mookie Betts play that no one seems to touch on, is his speed. Bro turned on the burners out the batter's box and I think that may have caught Cole and Rizzo off-guard. As a matter of fact, I don't think any other player in the Dodgers lineup would have made it on time, especially due to injuries.
IMO a good number of Dodger players would have made it, but the more important thing is ALL of them would have taken off for 1st on that play regardless of whether they thought they'd make it or not. They all run. They don't take things for granted. The Yankees, on the other hand...
You can have all the numbers in your favor and still lose. That's baseball. I've seen that happen several times this year with the Dodgers. Sometimes the other team understands the difference in defensive stats and plays harder. Sometimes wanting the win more than the other team is all it takes to win the game. I don't really buy into the whole "according to these numbers, we should have won/blown out" narrative, because I've seen again and again that any team can beat any other team in MLB unless you're the 2024 White Sox. I've watched the Angels' worst starter with like double digit losses and an ERA of 5 (Griffin Canning) hold the Dodgers to 1 run while their ragtag lineup scored 10 runs. On paper, the Dodgers "should" dominate the Angels, Canning "should" have been blown out, but that didn't happen; Canning had a great game, while Dodger starter Bobby Miller had a terrible game. I've also watched the Dodgers come back to win the game on 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th, and I've watched them win after being behind 5 or more runs in the 9th inning, this is a team that fights to the finish even if it's the bottom of the 9th, 2 out, and the batter has leg injuries. You mention in another thread that starting pitchers don't really matter in the postseason. Well it sure seemed they mattered in at least games 2 and 3, Yamamoto held the Yankees to 1 run (solo Stanton homer) over 6 1/3 innings, while Buehler had a 5-inning shutout and later iced the Yankee bats while closing a 1-run lead. And it's not like Flaherty was particularly bad, in game 1 he held the Yankees to just the 2-run blast from Stanton; the main reason why the Dodgers were behind in both games 1 and 5 was that Gerritt Cole is an amazing pitcher. Flaherty is a good solid pitcher, but he's there because most of the starting roster is unavailable. Another difference I see is that yes, Tommy Edman got the sole Dodger error of the series in the top of the 1st in game 1. But the Yankees didn't capitalize on it, they stranded 2 that inning without scoring. In contrast, the Dodgers scored at least twice in the series following an error or flubbed play on the part of Yankee players, aside from the 5th inning in game 5; it's like they understood that the entire point of forcing an error or an infield hit from the defense is to get on base and score runs. I don't blame Boone for the Yankees' poor performance in the WS, just as I refused to blame Doc Roberts when the Dodgers got blown out by the Padres or the Mets. Love him or hate him, Boone got the Yankees to the pennant, after all, it's not like the AL is a cakewalk. I'm sure the Yankees wanted to win it all, who doesn't? But it sure seemed to me like their bodies didn't realize they were down 3 games to 1 in the World Series, it didn't appear like they were _fighting_ for that trophy.
I’ve been curious why thet second error wouldn’t have been obstruction. Hernandez literally hits the foot of the third baseman while trying to slide in. He was fully blocking the plate without the ball.
There’s something very interesting when so much money goes apparently down the drain. How can so much talent and development and money spent come up short? Well, sometimes that development is going in the wrong, or at least not the right, places. Sometimes that money makes a bad investment. But more often than not, yeah the dice just weren’t there when you needed them. Is that answer satisfying? Almost never. As people we want agency over our lives. We want to know that we can influence the outcome to something we want it to be. But more often than not it’s just way out of our hands.
You sound like a bitter Yankee fan. I wish I didnt waste 12 minutes of my life listening to someone rant about his teaming losing to a much better team. Not a fan of either teams, just calling it as it is. The Dodgers were significantly better, not lucky. The Yankees if anything got lucky in game 4 that they were facing the worse pitchers in the Dodgers bullpen only.
If it came off that I thought the dodgers WON because of luck then I apologize, but that wasn’t my intention. In that segment of the video, I mention that the Yankees (specifically judge) failed to come through in big moments. The dodgers capitalized when the Yankees made mistakes, the Yankees failed even when the dodgers made mistakes. I think the offensive disparity was more apparent than defense and baserunning, and that’s with Ohtani playing hurt. But they didn’t win because they abided by some genius strategy of putting the ball in play more than usual. They played their typical game, hit homers, and scored runs when they got into scoring position.
And for the record, yes, I am a bitter Yankees fan. But I’m upset at my favorite players for shitting the bed, not upset at boone for whatever reason everyone else is.
The injuries to the dodgers were on starting pitchers who are completely irrelevant. Bullpen rules the playoffs, and the dodgers starting 5 were more than good enough. Stop coping.
@@cococock2418 starting pitching is not irrelevant in the playoffs. Sure the bullpen is more important than starting pitching in the playoffs but you still need your starter to go out there and give you five solid innings, almsot every game or your bullpen gonna be shambles. The Dodgers also had Freddie Freeman hurt Miguel Rojas. Two bullpen guys and Ohtani at the end.
@@cococock2418 Lux hurt his hip, Shohei torn his labrum, Freddie had a bum ankle and broken rib cartilage. Yeah, saying the Dodgers were injured is cope. Whatever you say bud.
@ it is a cope and a half you obese clown. None of the injuries you mentioned were even close to severe enough to require pulling them or worrying about them performing poorly at the plates you don’t need a pristine ankle to hit a baseball bozo.
Jomboy never said all that. He pulled up the article and pointed out where the yankees made unforced errors, but he's not victory lapping against his own team.
Even if Judge makes that catch, the Dodgers had enough of a lead to pull through in the series. But that Dodgers team is a monster, if they add a few more talents from Japan and free agents they'll be even stronger. Shohei wasn't even that great in the WS either
If you look at the catch judge missed, on the replay you can see him not looking the ball in which is what you’re taught in little league, he starts looking at the base runners before the ball actually comes into his glove
The fact that Jazz was batting clean-up shows the problem is in the lineup. If he's back they aren't serious, Jazz is not a good fielder, he had a .940 fielding avg and Cabrera had a .970...that's why there was a good number for 3B
Showing a clip where the pitcher actually does what hes supposed to and goes to cover until called off and one where the pitcher covers even once the 1st baseman has the ball while still trying to point out how its apparently Rizzos fault is crazy
I agree with pretty much everything you are saying. This is not on Boone it’s on the players. If they are struggling with something they need to work on it. Only thing I don’t agree with you is using the term unlucky. Almost all the stats are there to prove this wasn’t just unlucky. Great video love hearing another perspective!
Judge missed that catch because of a slight lack of range of motion in his wrist. You can see that the top part of the glove is sticking over the bottom instead of the reverse. That catch was never going to be caught with that wrist angle. Whether it was tightness or exhaustion.
I appreciate this analysis. The Yankees got struck by weird luck, but great players rise to the occasion, not succumb to it. It’s like saying Nick Foles or Eli didn’t win Super Bowls because they are replacement level QBs over a long sample size.
A lot of criticism about the fundamentals I have heard are on the Yankees as an organization rather than just Boone or Cashman. The impression I get is that people think the Yankees don't value defense or baserunning at all in trades, drafts, or minor league development. There have also been questions on Boone's philosophy as a manager, whether he is too player-friendly and doesn't actively push players to get better, rather lets them dodge accountability for mistakes. I can't really know cuz I'm not in the clubhouse, but when a lot of the media and some ex-players have that opinion, there's probably some level of truth to it.
I disagree with the conclusion about the defense, but not because of overall defensive stats. To me it felt Yankees weren't really tested at all in the playoffs until WS, and their lackadaisical "we can overcome anything" approach finally caught up with them in that game. In the case of Judge, he got greedy trying to snipe an extra out on the play. It wasn't just an "unlucky" error, but rather being in an untested scenario down 3-1 with unjustified "comeback momentum" confidence starting to put the team off guard as though they'd already won
Rizzo not being on the team anymore had me celebrating. I think he’s been so bad past couple years ever since Tatis injured him. Hopefully we sign someone good there after re signing Soto. Move Jazz to 2B and get a new 3B and bam we have a good defending infield
Also lack of fundamentals includes lack of hustle. Hustling and proper (smart) positioning of baserunners was involved in two- maybe all three if you consider that judge took his eye off the ball to look at the runner- plays here.
This guy clearly hasn’t been watching the Yankees. We consistently fail to make plays when it matters most, and I think some of it is pressure, and some if it is we aren’t being held accountable. The team often makes ridiculous errors, 7th most this season in baseball. Juan Soto had difficulty catching balls over his head, similar problems with Verdugo, Gleyber could barely field, Trevino couldn’t throw for the life of him, Rizzo had a poor showing this year, Volpe had a strong start but he started making many errors too, and we sucked at running bases. All of these problems are fundamental, arguably even Judge’s error, since he chose to take his eye off the ball too quickly, arguably the biggest fundamental to learn in the game. Players have made these errors all year and seemingly never paid the price, and it finally came back to bite us.
@ #1. Judge play in Cf Yeah it’s a fluke. He catches that, as you said, 99.9999% of the time. However, someone who has played center field for longer and is lighter on their feet would have been there quicker, making the play even more routine. Also taking your eyes off the ball to throw the runner out is the definition of a fundamental issue. Boone and Cashman never addressed the problem of below average defense, instead going headstrong into Judge playing CF. So yes, the problem is systemic. #2. Volpe error Again as you said, it’s a tough play, and he botched the throw. He needs to get an out there. But again there’s someone playing out of position. Jazz is not a third baseman. He’s athletic, has a good arm, and makes routine plays. The Yankees insistence on Jazz at third won’t allow us to even imagine a world in where an actual third baseman scoops that ball. So that again points to a systemic issue. #3. Cole play Both sides are at fault but Cole more so, so I agree with you there as well. You just don’t see mental errors of this magnitude on this big of a level. But these mental mistakes have been happening throughout the year and throughout Boones tender as manger. Maybe not exactly that play, but people are so up in arms about is that they’ve seen the same story for years now and nothings been done. Again, systemic. #4. The plays earlier in the series How is the Soto/Gleyber play not a fundamental issue. You said it, Soto has to hit the cutoff man. No he’s not a good defender, but you know, if you told him to hit the cutoff man, maybe he would? So that’s on coaching and points to a fundamental issue. Gleyber needs to get his body in front of it and stop it from bouncing away, again, fundamental. And rizzo not backing up is by definition bad fundamentals. Yeah these guys aren’t good fielders, but that’s absolutely no excuse for these mistakes. All of these are correctable problems. #5. A seasons worth of data “A seasons worth of data to prove the Yankees defense isn’t terrible but not great either.” Man I don’t want to sound like an old head geezer, but when you watch them they make plays that are more akin to a Rookie ball kid still learning how to play professionally. Bad fielding can be shored up by things like hitting cutoff men and emphasizing communication. But there are constant mental lapses with this team every year and it’s not corrected, and I don’t think you can just blame that all on the players being slightly below average defenders. #6. The language never “shifted” It’s been a problem all year every year man. Don’t know how else to say it. People have been talking about it for a while, but when you do it in the World Series in a game your winning in the most pathetic way possible a lot of people are gonna write articles on it. Nothing about this is new it was just on the grandest stage possible. #7. Accountability It’s not crazy to want the manager of your favorite team to say “hey, we have problems”. I’m not asking him to chastise players any time they make an error. But every interview he has he acts like they’re a flawless team. The false confidence the font office and coaching staff has is what really drives people insane. Constantly do they ignore the fact they’re being left in the dust on and off the field, and they refuse to put a team together that is fully competent. But maybe, just maybe, if the coach and front office weren’t ignorant and appreciated the fact the team has flaws, they could take steps to craft a real championship team. And please don’t ask me what “specifically” he needs to do. I’m not a manager or professional baseball player and neither are any of your viewers. Anyone with eyes can tell Boone and Cashman are not getting the most out of this team. And the desire to win you mention is exactly why you can’t blame most of this on the players. When there’s a pattern of issues with preparedness, where else to look but inward at the organization. TLDR coaching and fundamentals are the problem and your tone is condescending
Maybe I'm biased because I'm a Dodgers fan. While I felt you were fair with your assessment in saying they aren't terrible defensively, they absolutely have a fielding fundamentals problem. My AL team is the Orioles so I subsequently saw the Yankees play a lot. O's took advantage of fielding errors and baserunning mistakes the same as the Dodgers did. The final game before the ASB against the O's, bottom of the 9th was a prime example. This team seems to just have trouble with soft grounders and baseball IQ is lower than it should be. Game one of the WS, both Verdugo and Soto took bad routes to fly balls, allowing for runners to get triples. Jazz has no business being at third base and should go back to RF, especially if the Yankees don't pay Soto. Rizzo is aging out. Volpe has his share of errors but that particular error to Jazz was unique and therefore uniquely difficult, I'll give you that. My opinion he should have just thrown to first. If you have a five run lead don't worry about being a hero. Just get outs. The Rizzo/Cole double brain fart was just absolutely inexcusable. Cole made a terrible assumption and Rizzo didn't hustle. Both the first and fifth inning groundouts they seemed to have no urgency. That was little league but again, I saw it with the Yankees all year. They get wins because they barrell through with heavy hitters and talented pitchers. The Dodgers had the same but with better baserunning and fielding, and that made the difference. When baserunners are aggressive, it makes the Yankees fumble. The scouting reports are correct.
Fundamental error I saw from the World Series was, getting too comfortable when they were up and getting sloppy. Not making a routine catch, bad 1st base defense, etc etc. dodgers wanted that championship a bit more than the Yankees all series long and had to go through a harder route to do it.
You could tell Volpe had not practiced that play going to his right and having a smooth transfer to throwing. Also did you notice Edmond slid to the outside to try to get on between Volpe's throw
My argument for why it was the lack of fundamentals: 1. Cole is the premier cy young pitcher of the series, so on paper he should win game 1 and 5. 2. He was amazing in game 1, but paper doesn't account for a walk-off grand slam in the 10th inning. 3. He was amazing in game 5, but paper doesn't account for the crucial errors all happening in the same inning. If the errors were spread out, the yankees probably win. You bring up "balls in play" during the series... well yes, on paper yankees have the best pitcher so that's why the averages looked like that, if the pitcher doesn't let you put the ball in play, you cannot exploit the fundamentals of the fielders. However once he's off the mound or makes errors, the dodgers will take advantage of it. What's on paper isn't always reality, and I think the difference here was the fundamentals of the fielders.
Good analysis and breakdown. I hate the Yanks, BTW. The biggest anomaly was Judge dropping the fly, but I see that as a case of letting the pressure get to him as he was overly concerned with the runner. But I agree with you that the narrative of the Yankees as being poor defensively is erroneous.
Boone is 100% not the problem in this specific instance, but building a team around hitting home runs in order to win is foolhardy unless you can be absolutely certain that you have the 9 best home run hitters in the league. If you had 9 Aaron Judges, yeah, making a roster like this is sensible. And sure, you do have Soto and Stanton, and the rest of the lineup isn't half bad, but it's still nowhere close to what you'd need to consistently win with this team style. And while I don't think that fielding errors are Boone's fault (they aren't, everybody fucks up every now and then), the baserunning woes of the Yankees need to be noted when it comes to Boone and the coaching staff's evaluations. No other team in the league does this, and especially not when you have such talented runners in Jazz and Judge. Long story short, Boone isn't to blame for this specific choke, but some of his broad-scope managerial decisions this season have been questionable, which I think led to this downfall, even if only tangentially.
For the Volpe play, just throw it to second! You've seen that time and time again on a ball where the shortstop is ranging over to third. If Volpe does that, this inning doesn't happen.
Why not first? It's not like Will Smith is a fast runner, he's a power hitting catcher when he's actually able to make good contact. Sure, I get it, Volpe saw a play at 3rd and his momentum was going in that direction, but surely if he planted his feet he could have gotten Smith.
Judge simply took his eyes off the ball. I could see it in the reply when I was watching the game. Even a Gold Glove winner would drop that ball if he took his eyes off it. He probably wanted to try and catch the runner at first. simple mental error
In one of MLB YT videos, it showed a different angle on Cole vs Rizzo mistake. You can clearly see Cole lazy ass not covering the 1st bag because he already walked towards the dugout expecting Rizzo tagged out Mookie. But in the reality, both of them just relied on each other and not made the play, at all. Then Cole couldn't strikeout Freddie and Teoscar. And NY batters couldn't fight back to score more runs. They lack of fundamentals and apparently didn't have the mentality to be a champion.
Most of the good stuff has been covered in the comments... replacing Rizzo with Christian Walker is a minor note, however. Because Christian Walker has never made any mental mistakes in a World Series. The World Series is not played in the spreadsheets. Like a lot of the comments say: The Cope is strong in this one.
its all about clubhouse philosophy, mindset, and fundamentals. if you don't have the right message being conveyed, if u don't have the players not believing in it, willing to take accountability, and putting in the effort day in/ day out, then you get piss poor fundamentals and everything else.
You’re not in the clubhouse, you can’t know that their mentality is an issue. If this was a provable issue, I’d agree with you, but there’s no way to know without being in the room.
2:53 that’s Kiké Hernandez, not Tommy Edman
just like baseball errors happen
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@@AndThatsBaseball You are clearly, deeply, fundamentally flawed at commentary. Your mentors should have done a better job preparing you for this.
@@Gunleaver I can’t believe Aaron Boone would cause my poor attention to detail
What a great replies section
Was expecting some unique opinion,
turns out to be a whole bucket of copium😩
haha same I was so excited for this video this is not what I was expecting
Yeah, this was not great. 🤣
Calling mookie just a good defensive right fielder when he’s a 6 time gold glover is crazy
It was in jest
@ great video tho, the blame falls more on the players not showing up in big moments then Boone or the front office but people are always quick to blame the manager first
Mookie will go down as the “Greatest Utility” “Multipositional” player of all time.
in his current state it's true, i think he had like 30th percentile jump per statcast
his "outfielder jump" reaction and burst were both negative (maybe side effect from playing so much IF) but he's merely average now. also, his arm was ranked 69/81 in RF based on average arm speed... it's not end all be all, but he's not the same HOF RF he once was
@ he made some excellent technical plays off the wall in the WS. He’s regressed athletically, but he’s still skilled, especially compared to a guy like Soto.
This video is really coming off as a salty fan who is angry about their team losing. So is your solution just to run it back? Because if the dodgers were healthy and had another starting pitcher it would've been a sweep. Also don't the Yankees like never win against teams outside the ALC in the playoffs? (14-29 against Non ALC teams since 2010). Ig you could keep running it back but there is a clear issue here that has nothing to do with one inning, one series, or even one playoffs.
I really don't see how this video has provided any valuable insight.
The solution is incremental improvements. Consistent contention will lead to rings. What else is there? Tear down the entire infrastructure of the team because they lost in the World Series?
@@AndThatsBaseball Incremental? How long is incremental... because that's already 14 years of statistics. You can brush it off as "oh its a one in a million chance" and maybe it was, in that instance. But these small mistakes stack up, and will eventually catch up to you. And it also doesn't excuse any team going down 3-0 in the world series.
Luck can win you games, consistency wins you championships, and not consistent contention, but consistent good baseball. And yes, I think that getting to the world series ironically might be the worst thing that could've happened to the Yankees, Aaron boone will stay and they now think that they were "that close" and possible not change much to their system. And the cycle repeats.
Dodgers fans were saying the same shit about Roberts from 2017-19… then they won 2 titles with him. Trust the process.
Statistically, both teams are good. With exceptional individual records from both side. So, where is the gap? The answer is clear. It's from their fundamental and mentality.
This guy is delusional.
Regardless, the dodgers outplayed them practically in every way.
Dude I watched over 140 games this year. Let me sum this up: Yes they do
Numbers clearly prove you wrong.
@@cococock2418 numbers can't explain that tragic 5th inning 🤣
@ you literally proved my point bozo.. key word tragic. It’s not like that’s something they routinely occurs in the Yankees
@@cococock241872 likes vs zero likes. I think the numbers actually prove him right and you wrong. If you watched Yanks all season long like I did and did not conclude that they had poor fundamentals, then your brain simply is underperforming.
*doesnt believe the Yankees have issues fundamentally and that Aaron Boone isn't the problem
*proceeds to talk about issues that fundamentals and good coaching would fix, like poor communication in the field, taking one's eye off the play, and putting players in positions they shouldnt be in*
Ok so how would a different manager solve these problems?
@AndThatsBaseball making key adjustments, mostly.
I'm a basketball fan who occasionally dabbles in baseball content, and am not well versed on a lot of things baseball, but I know in basketball, if your giving up major turnovers, taking your eyes off the ball and your man and blowing defensive assignments, coaches make those adjustments. They change schemes, they pull players, the enphasize communication. That Rizzo and Cole error was bad communication on both ends at its core, and that read a coaching issue. Communication on defense is a coaching thing.
At the very least make adjustments, pull guys, get better defenders in.
@@attackthem8908 baseball is such a different game. At a little league or high school or even college level, yes, communication is on the coaches. But this game doesn’t really get more complex as you get to the highest levels like scheming in basketball or football does. It’s just more talented players playing the same game they played as kids. Miscommunications on exact plays that these pros have been making since they were literal 10 year olds shouldn’t be on the manager. In general, managers are hardly impacting on field activity outside of matchups.
I appreciate your thoughts, it’s interesting to have a perspective from a fan of another sport, because I can see why these mistakes are perceived that way.
@AndThatsBaseball I'm a day late so you'll probably never see this, but I love this video because you thoroughly breakdown why the simpleton thinking controlling the narrative is incorrect. People are so fn dumb & they immediately jump to the double digit IQ, convenient explanation. Subscribed.
@@AndThatsBaseballI disagree. Yanks focus and priority on practicing the fundamentals was ignored by the organization all year, and for many years prior. It came back to bite them in a big way. Period. You practice stuff so much so that it becomes second nature. And so that stress does not come into the equation so much in a do or die game under the brightest of lights. Yanks need to make some changes in their philosophy and training. Will they? Probably not unfortunately.
spoken like a true Yankees fan.
As a die hard Yankee fan. The 5th inning wasn't boone's fault. It was the players on the field who fucked it up.
It felt scripted to made plays intentionally
It was Boone's fault for not emphasizing fundamentals throughout the year. It was Boone's fault for trying to be his players' friend rather than their manager throughout his entire tenure.
It's funny how people will pick and choose whether to blame the leadership or the workers based on which argument they feel like making. But the reality is, it is ALWAYS the responsibility of the leader to make sure the workers are doing what they're supposed to be doing, and Boone is absolutely not cut out for that.
If there is one bad apple, obviously you can chalk that up to a player going rogue. But when the majority of the team shows nonchalance and lack of focus, that is absolutely a leadership problem.
Huff all the copium you want, but the Yankees are not winning a World Series so long as Boone is the manager. Even if they recruit a full team of players who are aggressively practicing focus and fundamentals on their own, Boone will still make decisions like putting a World Series game in the hands of a recovering pitcher who hasn't played in over a month and then still argue that it wasn't bad decision. Boone can't even hold himself accountable, let alone his players.
You’re completely ignoring the fact that LA was severely injured this year and still did what they did lol if they were at full strength, it would’ve been a clean sweep and none of the games would’ve been close.
Severely injured? Where? The rotation? They signed a bunch of guys knowing they have injury histories. Either way I don’t think that matters to the point of this vid
@ may, stone, Ryan, gonsolin, sheehan, grove, Glasnow, kershaw, frasso, Phillips all out.
Shohei & Freddie playing hurt and Max Muncy was nonexistent the entire series.
I understand the cope might be pretty intense right now you’re trying to make this series sound closer than it actually was and it wasn’t. This was one of the most lopsided World Series I’ve seen since Boston swept Colorado in 07 the Yankees are not on the same planet as the Dodgers.
@@AndThatsBaseball the World Series this year was the NLDS.
@@AndThatsBaseball also my man, they literally only signed glassnow who has a history of injuries. Do you even watch baseball? 🤣
@@AndThatsBaseballKnowing or not knowing a players injury history dosent change the fact that the dodgers had an injured pitching staff and wasn’t at 100% strength. Although it isn’t related to the video, simply knowing if a player is or isn’t injury prone doesn’t change the fact that they were injured and weren’t able to contribute
I really didn't want to relive this. I just want them to win so badly. You can never guarantee the future, you can only live in the now.
"This team came very very close to winning the whole thing".....Sorry, but that's far from the truth. They lost 4-1 and their only W was against rookie pitchers. Yankees were getting swept if the Dodgers had 1 more regular starting pitcher
Dave Robert's kept using his best pitchers even when down by 4 or 5. I think he deserves a lot of credit for the win.
He really did manage well all throughout the playoffs. Kept his high leverage arms rested and deployed them when needed.
Whole video of coping😭
@@beastly2823 I mean yea
@ It’s okay like your channel name says “that’s baseball”. However I do think there’s an argument that there’s no need for any of those plays to be made in that situation. Like why is Judge trying to double up kike when they’re up 5-0? Or volpe trying to get the lead runner up 5-0. And it’s without a doubt the dodgers were the better all around team.
I agree with most of this besides the volpe thing. I think he was so deep in the hole that 3B was his best bet to make an out.
What was the point you were trying to make with this video? The Yankees were never coming back from 0-3 against the Dodgers lmao
It would be funny to see them comeback from a 3-0 trail just to lose game 7
They had a 5-0 lead with a chance to take it to Game 6. They absolutely could have won the series at this stage. It was still an uphill climb (on the order of a 20% chance), but completely possible.
They weren't going to win but they certainly would have went 2-3 wins. they made 3 ridiculous errors in one inning while their ace was throwing gas.
This is pretty much my point. The team played a sloppy inning that cost them a game once they already pretty much lost the series with their bats. It’s not an organizational issue, they were outplayed for the first 3 games then blew game 5.
if there was no chance, the teams wouldn't be playing baseball out there after game 3.
clicked on this video hoping for some deep analysis. instead i got a fuck ton of yankees copium lol
It’s deeper than “Boone and Cashman bad, no fundamentals, no accountability” and it’s ultimately an opinionated rant with some data to back it up
Soto will be back in New York… as a met
Nope
Delusional
He'll be in Philly before that 💀
Who ever is willing to pay will have him
I think a part of Yankee fans frustrations is that they lost to the Dodgers without a lot of key contributors which could’ve easily tanked their season. They had an entire starting rotation on the IL including their only 2 pitchers to eclipse 100 innings for their team, while Freeman was dealing with 3 simultaneous injuries(2 of which are regular season IL stints) and even Ohtani tore his labrum although that was only noticed in games 3-5. It’s not convenient to say that 85% of the Dodgers were simply better than the Yankees so something like “fundamentals” will take the blame even though the former is the more coherent explanation
The Dodgers have the best roster in MLB, even with their injuries, and everyone knows it. I don't think it should've been seen as that surprising that the Yankees lost.
It was Hernandez that went from 2nd to 3rd on that play. Not Edman. Yankees happened to lose two games partially due to errors on defense. There were other reasons they lost those two games. In game 1, they ran out of pitching in the 10th inning after Weaver left. In game 5, Kahnle loaded the bases with no outs leading to two runs. Game 5 still could have been won and game 1 was nearly won, but Cortes couldn't get the third out.
I'm not even a Yankees fan but the 3rd Error definitely made me cringe not gonna lie
and I also thought that was the biggest misplay out of the 3 errors so glad someone point it out
Yes and the playoffs will expose that. If teams don't understand all situations with different outs and different men on base and are practicing 9 man defensive situations, they are going to have issues. This is the aspect that needs to be discussed more and understood. If you don't understand the chess aspect of baseball you don't really know baseball
Wow. I didnt know there was a chess analogy. Im new to baseball and Id like to know more. . .
“They came very, very close”Winning 1 game in the WS is close now.
“Lowered expectations” 😂
The franchise is not the same old franchise we used to know. Lucky AL was so weak they got lucky and made it to the WS.
Closer than 28 other teams
Thank you Braves for not signing Freeman.. Go Dodgers
He won them a World Series and they replaced him smh (I know it's not that simple but it's an interesting narrative to push)
@@AndThatsBaseballblame freeman's EX agent. He withheld several info during the negotiation thats why freddie fired him
As a Yankee fan who’s watched almost every game since Boone has been manager… yes. He doesn’t give two shits about fundamentals. As long as he his following what Cashman and the nerd department want him to do, he’s got a job for a long time. Dude has been in baseball his whole life and can’t teach fundamentals it’s crazy
Players should not be learning fundamental baseball at the major league level. That should be ingrained within them
They shouldnt be learning them at this level, but they SHOULD be revising them at any level. The yanks are flawed in fundamental situational baseball. Yes there were things they were good at that the #'s show but watching Mookie play balls the way he did vs any yanks outfielder or infielder not named Verdugo was eye opening. Especially when looking on the other side everyone's ignoring called hitting that didnt exist for them outside of hr's. We can look at the analytics & #'s all we want but if we're seeing the same result with our own eyes (yes eye test) & their scouts read us like a book, something fundamental at the core of this team has to change 🤷♂️
@@AndThatsBaseballyou still train them, that’s with any profession, yes it’s muscle memory at times but even the fundamentals/foundation need training
@@AndThatsBaseballit’s not about learning fundamentals in the majors it’s about keeping those skills sharp. In basketball the top players grind the fundamentals every time they practice it’s clear the Yankees don’t do that with consistent errors throughout the season. The Yankees are ranked 25th on errors per game allowing 0.58 errors per game. This is a clear lack in focus on grinding the fundamentals from Boone and the training staff.
@@AndThatsBaseballWell plenty of sources have said the Yankees minor league system doesn't teach the fundamentals either. The Yankees are also the ones signing players who are ass at fundamentals and only care about big hits. I'd say that's an organizational failure.
Dodgers did take advantage of a fundamentally flawed team, at the exact times (plural, of course) those invevitable flaws occurred. Ball No Lie.
I love how this whole video is base on numbers but then proceeds to call the Dodgers Lucky. The scouting report was right. The Yankees weren’t even close.
It’s not lucky. They got the big hits when the Yankees messed up. The Yankees didn’t capitalize when the dodgers messed up. Luck and timing goes into the series but the dodgers got the job done.
@@AndThatsBaseball make a tier list on playoff chokes 😅
@@AndThatsBaseball Luck and timing are also dependent on being able to take advantage of the opportunities when they present themselves. The Dodgers gave the Yankees chances to do the same, and the Yankees couldn't capitalize. That is the underlying difference. One might even call it the...fundamental difference...
One team getting clutch hits and another not getting clutch hits isn’t an issue with how the team is managed
@@AndThatsBaseball But the lack of adjustments in batting order is.
I appreciate you going against the grain of every other baseball talking head, but I think you are still kind of missing the point, ATB.
if you want to blame any individuals, you have to blame the leader of the team. that's how effective teams work. Aaron Boone's job is to take the blame as much as the credit. Roberts is the definition of that kind of manager and it's why we see his face again every october. I really expected some better analysis here, but to me it seemed like a bunch of circuitous blame game garbage trying to come up with excuses, and honestly it points directly to the real problem that the yankees have and have always had. they value stardom more than teamwork. the yankees are a bunch of all-stars, but the dodgers play like a team. it's not surprising to me that their biggest playoff threat came from the padres - a team of relatively few stars who take the field like a well oiled machine. everyone can see it, and that is why everyone is talking the same points that were in that scouting report.
to your statistical analogy, the yankees either roll ones or sixes... and not much in between. the dodgers roll fives every time. when was the last time LA fell apart like a little league team? the yankees have a hubris problem and until they and their fans admit it, they will continue to be shocked when they roll snake eyes against teams who play like a team. I am a SF giants fan for life; I can't stand the dodgers. but I have to admit that it was (and is) impressive to watch that team play. they have their stars, but somehow they are more than the sum of their parts. the yankees are just judge. they're cole. they're stanton hitting a solo home run. the dodgers get on base and bring each other home. the dichotomy of team culture and strategy (for two teams with deep pockets, too) could not have been on better display than this series. which way of playing the game is more effective? we got our answer loud and clear.
@@cobalt789 the reason the Dodgers “feel like a team” is because the bottom of their order is simply better than the bottom of the Yankees order. Outside of Ohtani, Betts and Freeman and then Soto, Judge and Stanton(Stanton is a clear outlier here but he was their other big bat in the playoffs), the Dodgers have 4 more extremely talented players who are capable of being all-stars in Smith, Muncy, Edman and Teoscar. Would you say that the Yankees next best guys like Wells, Jazz, Volpe and Gleyber compare to the Dodgers 4? No, the Dodgers are just simply more talented even outside of their trio of MVPs. It has less to do with fundamentals than you believe and more to do with just having a more talented roster.
Forget if it was Muncy or Vesia on a podcast saying the way they train is influenced by the work ethic of their big stars. For baserunning they apparently have a little chart that shows if you're staying sharp with good leads (green), kinda off (yellow), or slacking with bad leads (red). Anyone in the red, Freeman gives them a talking-to. Mookie does BP for hours to get his swing right. Ohtani is super methodical with all his drills because he analyzes what he did wrong or right. That's the kind of leadership the Dodgers have and it carries into the rest of the team -- the quote was something like, "if our stars are doing that, then the rest of us have to be the same." Their discipline at the plate speaks for itself. Idk if the Yankees have that same kind of mentality going through the team top to bottom, but the WS sure didn't make it look like they do.
You can’t teach judge how to catch a routine ball.
Boone should’ve made that play smh
@ Hal’s hiding because he knows he would’ve easily made that
It looks like all the "anomalies" occurred in high stress environments. That fundamentally is wrong. To summarize.... yes they do lack fundamentals.
It brings me so much joy to see the Yankees have LOLYanks moments. I can only hope many more are to come. They were a weak team compared to the stacked NL to keep it real
No they weren't you clown met fan. This fundamentals argument is ridiculous.
Actually, the two Key plays in the inning were running plays. First Hernandez busting it to 2nd base after seeing Judge drop the ball prevented a force-out. Then Betts hustling it to first base rather than pulling a Stanton Jog allowed four more runs to score.
I swear not enough people bring up the fact that the Dodgers won because they didn't quit on plays. Kike busted his ass (two Hernandezs, you gotta be specific) and so did Mookie. Edman took third in the 8th on the first sac fly right in front of Judge. Aggressive base running.
Reminder the Dodgers scouting report on the Yankees was something like "Put the ball in play and let them inflict self harm"
I really think some High School teams would have had better defense. It's an atrocity.
“Jazz Chilsom almost made the pick”
I need to see the video evidence of this statement because the clip you provided clearly ain’t it.
Ya can feel the copium just dripping from this video.
Is grass green?
This inning was baaad, but in my personal opinion, the one in the 2015 ALDS was worse
As a life long Dodgers fan I'll just say this: You Yankee fans need to ease up on Judge. He got you there and did his best. He had a bad WS. Give him a break.
I mean I’ve been charitable as hell to him but he hasn’t performed in the playoffs since 2018. At a certain point he just has to show up.
@AndThatsBaseball - I really believe he'll show up for you guys at some point.
Given how much Aaron chokes, and how he played center field, I thought to myself at the start of the series that I knew he was going to make an error. Maybe in the regular season he doesn't get distracted by the runner because he's not in the right frame of mind during the world series. If he makes not a single error, then he's a known choker, and he makes an error during the world series, are we really surprised? I'm not saying the error was a big deal, but it was definitely a choke not a one in a million. If you never make errors and then you do now, it's even more of a choke!
Hello, Dodger fan here, but I respect the video and I feel the frustration you felt at the collapse. I think the main issue (correct me if I'm wrong) is that it being just a fundamentals thing isn't the only issue. I think you were trying to prove that it is a culmination of problems. One general thing that does not get talk about is the fall classic causes players to be hyper-aware and it is just a team filled with players that already experienced the world series vs a team who had some veteran experience. Errors are a part of the game. No one is arguing that. But in a fall classic, errors are magnified. That's where the whole fundamentals things come in. One point that doesn't get talked about is if the collapse happened during the regular season, how would it be handled differently? The difference is what is on the line. The storyline revolves around the Yankees being down 0-3 in the world series. They have to play perfectly. They blew game 1. That had to hurt the ego. Games 2 and 3 were close on paper, but it was evident that the walk-off had rattled some yankee players. It also didn't help a guy, who was supposed to be injured and playing on one foot, was the one causing the most damage. We can talk about analytics all we want but they can't tell the outcome of the story. But baseball is the most unpredictable sport. You mentioned they don't have a fundamentals issue and that is fine. Teams with no fundamental issues can still commit errors. The difference is that if you were to put the same inning in the regular season, adjustments can be made to prevent it from happening as much as possible. It is one game out of 162 in a season and you can still be in contention for a play off spot. When it comes to the playoffs, however, things changes. You no longer have a long season ahead of you. The adjustments should have been made. you only have a set number of games now. 5 in the DS and 7 in the CS and WS. You cannot have time to think about these things. You have to play baseball to the best of your abilities which makes errors that much meaningful. That's why it doesn't fall entirely on the Manager. I feel your frustration with the amount of mistakes Roberts did during the 17*, 18* WS 19,22,23 DS and 21 CS. The pitching can change entire outcomes. I understand how frustrating blown leads can feel. I feel this 5th inning was really a mental collapse of a team who had been just trying to play perfect baseball and simply over thought it. In that moment, you're not thinking about the score. You're thinking about how to get out of the inning. Judge wanted to force a double play. It didn't work. Volpe wanted to get the runner out at third to set up a double play next batter. It didn't work. A simple miscommunication rendered out a run. A pitcher who is undoubtedly frustrated that he had to work extra during an inning he virtually got out of. And a first basemen who felt that he was too far from a runner that has speed. Again, errors are a part of the game. It can happen to anyone but we must also admit that the Yankees made poor decisions both managerial and player wise. This whole make the Yankees play means that when push comes to shove, let them make "hard" plays not routine. That the dodgers needed to force the Yankees to make those difficult decisions because they were the "worst defensive positioned team." Force the yankees into relays. Test their arms. Test their accuracy. Test their thinking. This isn't fundamentals. They were in do or die and the dodgers capitalized on it. Fundamentals is have basic understanding of how the game works. Yes ground balls and fly balls are part of the fundamental, but what do you do after?. To judge, he wanted to force a double play. To volpe, he wanted to set up a double play. These were niche scenarios that can have a lasting impact and these what if's are gonna start. The only one that I won't let slide is the 1st base. Regardless of the excuses they both should have played it to cover but again mentally they should have been out at that point. The result is the result and we can't linger on it. We can chalk it up to 3 things. 1. The dodgers were a superior team in clutch. 2. The dodgers wanted to win it more. 3. Experience. The dodgers more or less have a consistent team that makes it to the World series 4 times in the last 7 years with almost the majority of players having been to the WS vs the Yankees who have (to my understanding) a few veterans who made it to the world series and the rest experiencing it for the first time. The Yankees as a team have not made it to the WS in 15 years vs the Dodgers, who had been to the World Series 4 times (including this year) in the past seven. Errors happen. Bad Managerial Decisions happen. Batters slumps happen. Analytics can say a lot but they can't predict everything. And to the Yankees, they were given a bad hand and suffered all three. I, as a fan, been there with you when the dodgers lost in aforementioned series. I too was frustrated but the only thing they as a team can do is learn and practice so they can prevent it. Good Game and We hope to see a rematch with yours very soon
You’re right. All the mistakes were just a terrible coincidence, and the Dodgers scouting report specifically recommending the team focus on making the Yankees make plays was actually incorrect, despite the recommendation completely playing out in their favor. The dodgers should be hiring you.
Again, the Yankees had more success reaching on balls in play than the Dodgers during the series. The timing of the errors is what lost the Yankees a game.
@AndThatsBaseball wouldnt those timings be based on fundamentals though? Judge missing a routine fly is a fundamental play on its own that i learned in little league.
That wasn’t a predictable outcome tho. Guy hasn’t made that error ever before
@@AndThatsBaseball you're basing everything on numbers and removing the human element of chaos. Expecting the same results especially when things such as nerves, feelings or pressure can never be predicted. Yes number wise you will be right but did you account for anything related to being human and making such simple mistakes?
Is that a fundamental issue? Or a pressure issue? Because the argument being made by everyone is that we saw this sloppy team all year and it was bound to bite them. Aaron judge didn’t make an error all year. If Aaron judge can’t handle the pressure, I don’t think that’s indicative of a team wide fundamentals issue.
this video is pure copium. i watched the yankees all year because my coworker likes them, and they had so many fundamentals issues. plus dodgers were not full strength, with so many injuries... yanks completely failing wasnt luck, they just are not a cohesive team w good fundamentals. yanks limped into the WS. dodgers kicked their asses because they are a strong team and don't mess up really basic things when it matters. we saw this the entire season, so many bad games for the yanks, and this gets exacerbated under pressure. judge needs to wake up in post season. boone isnt rlly the issue, it's the players.
Best analysis of what happened to the Yankees I've seen, and I'm a life long Dodgers fan
I disagree with you on this video. They should go over it in practice who gets the bag with Cole at first, and they need to practice the plays more that happened with the runner to third base. Lastly, they need to emphasize getting the ball secured before throwing out a runner and having good outfield fundamentals.
As a dodgers fan who’s heard people wanting Dave Robert’s head for the postseason struggles, in my mind a coaching change is not what yall need rn, Dave got us safely into October every year, we were bound to win it at some point, same thing with the Yankees, yall just made the WS, sacking the coach that got you there bc you lost one series that as dodger fan had me nervous af by game 5 even though we got to 3-0 is not the play
This is something else I should’ve addressed. Roberts was hated for years but now he has 2 rings. Consistently fielding competitive teams and incremental improvements are what leads to championships. The dodgers were the best team in the NL plenty of seasons where they didn’t even win the pennant. And they lost 2 World Series under Roberts before winning one. Doesn’t mean the org was flawed, they were still the best in terms of process by far.
The thing about the Mookie Betts play that no one seems to touch on, is his speed. Bro turned on the burners out the batter's box and I think that may have caught Cole and Rizzo off-guard. As a matter of fact, I don't think any other player in the Dodgers lineup would have made it on time, especially due to injuries.
Don't matter if Cole jogs towards 1st catches the ball from Rizzo touches 1st base Inning over. He didn't do it 😂😂😂😂
@@JackGeezy Yes we all know this. That's obvious. I'm just trying to dig deeper as to why, and this is my theory.
@@baberaham Any little league pitcher will run all the way to 1st until called off.
well not every major leaguer apparently.
IMO a good number of Dodger players would have made it, but the more important thing is ALL of them would have taken off for 1st on that play regardless of whether they thought they'd make it or not. They all run. They don't take things for granted. The Yankees, on the other hand...
3:57 there is footage of a very very similar play where he ran towards base.
You can have all the numbers in your favor and still lose. That's baseball. I've seen that happen several times this year with the Dodgers. Sometimes the other team understands the difference in defensive stats and plays harder. Sometimes wanting the win more than the other team is all it takes to win the game. I don't really buy into the whole "according to these numbers, we should have won/blown out" narrative, because I've seen again and again that any team can beat any other team in MLB unless you're the 2024 White Sox. I've watched the Angels' worst starter with like double digit losses and an ERA of 5 (Griffin Canning) hold the Dodgers to 1 run while their ragtag lineup scored 10 runs. On paper, the Dodgers "should" dominate the Angels, Canning "should" have been blown out, but that didn't happen; Canning had a great game, while Dodger starter Bobby Miller had a terrible game. I've also watched the Dodgers come back to win the game on 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th, and I've watched them win after being behind 5 or more runs in the 9th inning, this is a team that fights to the finish even if it's the bottom of the 9th, 2 out, and the batter has leg injuries.
You mention in another thread that starting pitchers don't really matter in the postseason. Well it sure seemed they mattered in at least games 2 and 3, Yamamoto held the Yankees to 1 run (solo Stanton homer) over 6 1/3 innings, while Buehler had a 5-inning shutout and later iced the Yankee bats while closing a 1-run lead. And it's not like Flaherty was particularly bad, in game 1 he held the Yankees to just the 2-run blast from Stanton; the main reason why the Dodgers were behind in both games 1 and 5 was that Gerritt Cole is an amazing pitcher. Flaherty is a good solid pitcher, but he's there because most of the starting roster is unavailable.
Another difference I see is that yes, Tommy Edman got the sole Dodger error of the series in the top of the 1st in game 1. But the Yankees didn't capitalize on it, they stranded 2 that inning without scoring. In contrast, the Dodgers scored at least twice in the series following an error or flubbed play on the part of Yankee players, aside from the 5th inning in game 5; it's like they understood that the entire point of forcing an error or an infield hit from the defense is to get on base and score runs.
I don't blame Boone for the Yankees' poor performance in the WS, just as I refused to blame Doc Roberts when the Dodgers got blown out by the Padres or the Mets. Love him or hate him, Boone got the Yankees to the pennant, after all, it's not like the AL is a cakewalk. I'm sure the Yankees wanted to win it all, who doesn't? But it sure seemed to me like their bodies didn't realize they were down 3 games to 1 in the World Series, it didn't appear like they were _fighting_ for that trophy.
Its up there with the 2015 ALDS Rangers 7th inning for pure slopiness
I’ve been curious why thet second error wouldn’t have been obstruction. Hernandez literally hits the foot of the third baseman while trying to slide in. He was fully blocking the plate without the ball.
2:31 That was Hernandez bro.
There’s something very interesting when so much money goes apparently down the drain. How can so much talent and development and money spent come up short?
Well, sometimes that development is going in the wrong, or at least not the right, places. Sometimes that money makes a bad investment. But more often than not, yeah the dice just weren’t there when you needed them. Is that answer satisfying? Almost never. As people we want agency over our lives. We want to know that we can influence the outcome to something we want it to be. But more often than not it’s just way out of our hands.
Yes they do, and it’s a problem they’ve had for YEARS!!!!!
You sound like a bitter Yankee fan. I wish I didnt waste 12 minutes of my life listening to someone rant about his teaming losing to a much better team.
Not a fan of either teams, just calling it as it is. The Dodgers were significantly better, not lucky. The Yankees if anything got lucky in game 4 that they were facing the worse pitchers in the Dodgers bullpen only.
If it came off that I thought the dodgers WON because of luck then I apologize, but that wasn’t my intention. In that segment of the video, I mention that the Yankees (specifically judge) failed to come through in big moments. The dodgers capitalized when the Yankees made mistakes, the Yankees failed even when the dodgers made mistakes.
I think the offensive disparity was more apparent than defense and baserunning, and that’s with Ohtani playing hurt. But they didn’t win because they abided by some genius strategy of putting the ball in play more than usual. They played their typical game, hit homers, and scored runs when they got into scoring position.
And for the record, yes, I am a bitter Yankees fan. But I’m upset at my favorite players for shitting the bed, not upset at boone for whatever reason everyone else is.
@@AndThatsBaseball that I give you credit for. People acting like Boone told them to have as many errors as possible.
No need for any more breakdowns. We all know why the Yankees lost by now: Fat Joe 😁
Yankees lost because they there team no was no where near as good as a HURT dodgers team.
The injuries to the dodgers were on starting pitchers who are completely irrelevant. Bullpen rules the playoffs, and the dodgers starting 5 were more than good enough. Stop coping.
@@cococock2418 starting pitching is not irrelevant in the playoffs. Sure the bullpen is more important than starting pitching in the playoffs but you still need your starter to go out there and give you five solid innings, almsot every game or your bullpen gonna be shambles. The Dodgers also had Freddie Freeman hurt Miguel Rojas. Two bullpen guys and Ohtani at the end.
@@cococock2418Fun news, their bullpen was injured too.
@@cococock2418 Lux hurt his hip, Shohei torn his labrum, Freddie had a bum ankle and broken rib cartilage. Yeah, saying the Dodgers were injured is cope. Whatever you say bud.
@ it is a cope and a half you obese clown. None of the injuries you mentioned were even close to severe enough to require pulling them or worrying about them performing poorly at the plates you don’t need a pristine ankle to hit a baseball bozo.
Jomboy never said all that. He pulled up the article and pointed out where the yankees made unforced errors, but he's not victory lapping against his own team.
Yeah that’s pretty harsh. Sherman and especially Kelly were definitely more of the focus with what they specifically said/wrote
Even if Judge makes that catch, the Dodgers had enough of a lead to pull through in the series.
But that Dodgers team is a monster, if they add a few more talents from Japan and free agents they'll be even stronger.
Shohei wasn't even that great in the WS either
this could very easily be a lack of chemistry in the clubhouse, which would indicate an issue with either the management or the ideology of the team.
If you look at the catch judge missed, on the replay you can see him not looking the ball in which is what you’re taught in little league, he starts looking at the base runners before the ball actually comes into his glove
The fact that Jazz was batting clean-up shows the problem is in the lineup. If he's back they aren't serious, Jazz is not a good fielder, he had a .940 fielding avg and Cabrera had a .970...that's why there was a good number for 3B
Showing a clip where the pitcher actually does what hes supposed to and goes to cover until called off and one where the pitcher covers even once the 1st baseman has the ball while still trying to point out how its apparently Rizzos fault is crazy
I agree with pretty much everything you are saying. This is not on Boone it’s on the players. If they are struggling with something they need to work on it. Only thing I don’t agree with you is using the term unlucky. Almost all the stats are there to prove this wasn’t just unlucky. Great video love hearing another perspective!
Thank god this kind of Yankees fans still exist. Wont wake up.😊
Judge missed that catch because of a slight lack of range of motion in his wrist. You can see that the top part of the glove is sticking over the bottom instead of the reverse. That catch was never going to be caught with that wrist angle. Whether it was tightness or exhaustion.
I appreciate this analysis. The Yankees got struck by weird luck, but great players rise to the occasion, not succumb to it. It’s like saying Nick Foles or Eli didn’t win Super Bowls because they are replacement level QBs over a long sample size.
This was crazy how they lost like that
Don’t think Soto comes back
Let me cope he's coming back
A lot of criticism about the fundamentals I have heard are on the Yankees as an organization rather than just Boone or Cashman. The impression I get is that people think the Yankees don't value defense or baserunning at all in trades, drafts, or minor league development. There have also been questions on Boone's philosophy as a manager, whether he is too player-friendly and doesn't actively push players to get better, rather lets them dodge accountability for mistakes. I can't really know cuz I'm not in the clubhouse, but when a lot of the media and some ex-players have that opinion, there's probably some level of truth to it.
I disagree with the conclusion about the defense, but not because of overall defensive stats. To me it felt Yankees weren't really tested at all in the playoffs until WS, and their lackadaisical "we can overcome anything" approach finally caught up with them in that game. In the case of Judge, he got greedy trying to snipe an extra out on the play. It wasn't just an "unlucky" error, but rather being in an untested scenario down 3-1 with unjustified "comeback momentum" confidence starting to put the team off guard as though they'd already won
the yankees play home run derby, not baseball
Rizzo not being on the team anymore had me celebrating. I think he’s been so bad past couple years ever since Tatis injured him. Hopefully we sign someone good there after re signing Soto. Move Jazz to 2B and get a new 3B and bam we have a good defending infield
Lack of hustle is not a mental error
Props for you having the balls to make this video.
I agree completely.
Also lack of fundamentals includes lack of hustle. Hustling and proper (smart) positioning of baserunners was involved in two- maybe all three if you consider that judge took his eye off the ball to look at the runner- plays here.
This guy clearly hasn’t been watching the Yankees. We consistently fail to make plays when it matters most, and I think some of it is pressure, and some if it is we aren’t being held accountable. The team often makes ridiculous errors, 7th most this season in baseball. Juan Soto had difficulty catching balls over his head, similar problems with Verdugo, Gleyber could barely field, Trevino couldn’t throw for the life of him, Rizzo had a poor showing this year, Volpe had a strong start but he started making many errors too, and we sucked at running bases. All of these problems are fundamental, arguably even Judge’s error, since he chose to take his eye off the ball too quickly, arguably the biggest fundamental to learn in the game. Players have made these errors all year and seemingly never paid the price, and it finally came back to bite us.
I've been waiting for this video by you
Highly disagree and you made your points condescendingly
Why and how so?
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#1. Judge play in Cf
Yeah it’s a fluke. He catches that, as you said, 99.9999% of the time. However, someone who has played center field for longer and is lighter on their feet would have been there quicker, making the play even more routine. Also taking your eyes off the ball to throw the runner out is the definition of a fundamental issue. Boone and Cashman never addressed the problem of below average defense, instead going headstrong into Judge playing CF. So yes, the problem is systemic.
#2. Volpe error
Again as you said, it’s a tough play, and he botched the throw. He needs to get an out there. But again there’s someone playing out of position. Jazz is not a third baseman. He’s athletic, has a good arm, and makes routine plays. The Yankees insistence on Jazz at third won’t allow us to even imagine a world in where an actual third baseman scoops that ball. So that again points to a systemic issue.
#3. Cole play
Both sides are at fault but Cole more so, so I agree with you there as well. You just don’t see mental errors of this magnitude on this big of a level. But these mental mistakes have been happening throughout the year and throughout Boones tender as manger. Maybe not exactly that play, but people are so up in arms about is that they’ve seen the same story for years now and nothings been done. Again, systemic.
#4. The plays earlier in the series
How is the Soto/Gleyber play not a fundamental issue. You said it, Soto has to hit the cutoff man. No he’s not a good defender, but you know, if you told him to hit the cutoff man, maybe he would? So that’s on coaching and points to a fundamental issue. Gleyber needs to get his body in front of it and stop it from bouncing away, again, fundamental. And rizzo not backing up is by definition bad fundamentals. Yeah these guys aren’t good fielders, but that’s absolutely no excuse for these mistakes. All of these are correctable problems.
#5. A seasons worth of data
“A seasons worth of data to prove the Yankees defense isn’t terrible but not great either.”
Man I don’t want to sound like an old head geezer, but when you watch them they make plays that are more akin to a Rookie ball kid still learning how to play professionally. Bad fielding can be shored up by things like hitting cutoff men and emphasizing communication. But there are constant mental lapses with this team every year and it’s not corrected, and I don’t think you can just blame that all on the players being slightly below average defenders.
#6. The language never “shifted”
It’s been a problem all year every year man. Don’t know how else to say it. People have been talking about it for a while, but when you do it in the World Series in a game your winning in the most pathetic way possible a lot of people are gonna write articles on it. Nothing about this is new it was just on the grandest stage possible.
#7. Accountability
It’s not crazy to want the manager of your favorite team to say “hey, we have problems”. I’m not asking him to chastise players any time they make an error. But every interview he has he acts like they’re a flawless team. The false confidence the font office and coaching staff has is what really drives people insane. Constantly do they ignore the fact they’re being left in the dust on and off the field, and they refuse to put a team together that is fully competent. But maybe, just maybe, if the coach and front office weren’t ignorant and appreciated the fact the team has flaws, they could take steps to craft a real championship team. And please don’t ask me what “specifically” he needs to do. I’m not a manager or professional baseball player and neither are any of your viewers. Anyone with eyes can tell Boone and Cashman are not getting the most out of this team. And the desire to win you mention is exactly why you can’t blame most of this on the players. When there’s a pattern of issues with preparedness, where else to look but inward at the organization.
TLDR coaching and fundamentals are the problem and your tone is condescending
If Judge hits, this would've been a different series. But that dude went silent. Soto tried to hype them up, but wasn't enough.
Very much enjoy how you said this
As non Yankee fan, I approve of this video. Stay trashy, Yankees
Maybe I'm biased because I'm a Dodgers fan. While I felt you were fair with your assessment in saying they aren't terrible defensively, they absolutely have a fielding fundamentals problem. My AL team is the Orioles so I subsequently saw the Yankees play a lot. O's took advantage of fielding errors and baserunning mistakes the same as the Dodgers did. The final game before the ASB against the O's, bottom of the 9th was a prime example. This team seems to just have trouble with soft grounders and baseball IQ is lower than it should be. Game one of the WS, both Verdugo and Soto took bad routes to fly balls, allowing for runners to get triples.
Jazz has no business being at third base and should go back to RF, especially if the Yankees don't pay Soto. Rizzo is aging out. Volpe has his share of errors but that particular error to Jazz was unique and therefore uniquely difficult, I'll give you that. My opinion he should have just thrown to first. If you have a five run lead don't worry about being a hero. Just get outs.
The Rizzo/Cole double brain fart was just absolutely inexcusable. Cole made a terrible assumption and Rizzo didn't hustle. Both the first and fifth inning groundouts they seemed to have no urgency. That was little league but again, I saw it with the Yankees all year.
They get wins because they barrell through with heavy hitters and talented pitchers. The Dodgers had the same but with better baserunning and fielding, and that made the difference.
When baserunners are aggressive, it makes the Yankees fumble. The scouting reports are correct.
Fundamental error I saw from the World Series was, getting too comfortable when they were up and getting sloppy. Not making a routine catch, bad 1st base defense, etc etc. dodgers wanted that championship a bit more than the Yankees all series long and had to go through a harder route to do it.
You could tell Volpe had not practiced that play going to his right and having a smooth transfer to throwing. Also did you notice Edmond slid to the outside to try to get on between Volpe's throw
All I know is they never had the makings of a varsity athletes
An equivalent question, to quote Aunt Viv: did James Brown have a perm?
My argument for why it was the lack of fundamentals:
1. Cole is the premier cy young pitcher of the series, so on paper he should win game 1 and 5.
2. He was amazing in game 1, but paper doesn't account for a walk-off grand slam in the 10th inning.
3. He was amazing in game 5, but paper doesn't account for the crucial errors all happening in the same inning. If the errors were spread out, the yankees probably win.
You bring up "balls in play" during the series... well yes, on paper yankees have the best pitcher so that's why the averages looked like that, if the pitcher doesn't let you put the ball in play, you cannot exploit the fundamentals of the fielders. However once he's off the mound or makes errors, the dodgers will take advantage of it. What's on paper isn't always reality, and I think the difference here was the fundamentals of the fielders.
Good analysis and breakdown. I hate the Yanks, BTW.
The biggest anomaly was Judge dropping the fly, but I see that as a case of letting the pressure get to him as he was overly concerned with the runner.
But I agree with you that the narrative of the Yankees as being poor defensively is erroneous.
Watch the 90’s Tampa Bay Devil Rays era then compare it to that 5th inning
Boone is 100% not the problem in this specific instance, but building a team around hitting home runs in order to win is foolhardy unless you can be absolutely certain that you have the 9 best home run hitters in the league. If you had 9 Aaron Judges, yeah, making a roster like this is sensible. And sure, you do have Soto and Stanton, and the rest of the lineup isn't half bad, but it's still nowhere close to what you'd need to consistently win with this team style. And while I don't think that fielding errors are Boone's fault (they aren't, everybody fucks up every now and then), the baserunning woes of the Yankees need to be noted when it comes to Boone and the coaching staff's evaluations. No other team in the league does this, and especially not when you have such talented runners in Jazz and Judge.
Long story short, Boone isn't to blame for this specific choke, but some of his broad-scope managerial decisions this season have been questionable, which I think led to this downfall, even if only tangentially.
For the Volpe play, just throw it to second! You've seen that time and time again on a ball where the shortstop is ranging over to third. If Volpe does that, this inning doesn't happen.
Why not first? It's not like Will Smith is a fast runner, he's a power hitting catcher when he's actually able to make good contact. Sure, I get it, Volpe saw a play at 3rd and his momentum was going in that direction, but surely if he planted his feet he could have gotten Smith.
Judge simply took his eyes off the ball. I could see it in the reply when I was watching the game. Even a Gold Glove winner would drop that ball if he took his eyes off it. He probably wanted to try and catch the runner at first. simple mental error
100%
I don’t think this is a coaching issue or whatever. Could happen to anyone.
The one in the 1st inning was closer to the bag and rizzo was closer to the bag
I know. I think Cole saw it off the bat as the same play tho.
2:53 that’s Kikè not Tommy
I like that, it's just another error. That is what makes baseball great. Those little details.
In one of MLB YT videos, it showed a different angle on Cole vs Rizzo mistake. You can clearly see Cole lazy ass not covering the 1st bag because he already walked towards the dugout expecting Rizzo tagged out Mookie. But in the reality, both of them just relied on each other and not made the play, at all. Then Cole couldn't strikeout Freddie and Teoscar. And NY batters couldn't fight back to score more runs. They lack of fundamentals and apparently didn't have the mentality to be a champion.
Most of the good stuff has been covered in the comments... replacing Rizzo with Christian Walker is a minor note, however. Because Christian Walker has never made any mental mistakes in a World Series. The World Series is not played in the spreadsheets. Like a lot of the comments say: The Cope is strong in this one.
its all about clubhouse philosophy, mindset, and fundamentals. if you don't have the right message being conveyed, if u don't have the players not believing in it, willing to take accountability, and putting in the effort day in/ day out, then you get piss poor fundamentals and everything else.
You’re not in the clubhouse, you can’t know that their mentality is an issue. If this was a provable issue, I’d agree with you, but there’s no way to know without being in the room.
It couldn't have happened to a more hated team.
The world series was completely one sided. The Yankees only had control during one game and 4 innings