@@maximus-6788 I'm fine thank you. I'm just saying that there's no point in making an history movie about a character and an era if you miss everything about them. Battles are so ridiculously depicted that I wouldn't be surprised to see fighter jets or UFOs joining the melee. Actually, Scott should have done that, it would have been more consistent.
The battle on this ice was overblown and only about 100 enemy were drowned. Historians says this is Napoleonic propaganda. Like Ukrainians destroying Russian tanks with 25 mm cannons on Bradley infantry vehicles!!
@@iamgermane It's true that is mostly propaganda, as if the Austrian Army would march over a frozen river, scouts would've been sent ahead and this battle was planned on both sides, only a few hundred at most tried to flee across a river at the end of the battle and it was blown up by Napoleon, tho is does sound cool.
What kills me about this is Joaquin says 'let them think they have the higher ground' in this scene. Which is correct since the actual Battle of Austerlitz did revolve around letting the opponent have the Plateau of Pratzen so they'd feel secure. Only we're not seeing the Austrians and Russians occupy a higher ground here. Throughout the scene they're on an even field and later an icy lake. It's the French who occupy the high ground from the start. So why did Scott include that line? To tease us with the actual Battle of Austerlitz?
@@Rawarart Maybe. But then later he explicitly says 'take their position on the higher ground', which is also something that happened at the actual Battle of Austerlitz. I think Joaquin is saying things that would fit the actual battle, but don't fit with what we're seeing in this scene at all.
@@MadFox-jr6by In the scene we got, yes absolutely. But of course the line would be fine if Ridley Scott made any effort to depict the Battle of Austerlitz.
It took me four attempts to be able to finish that movie. I love history and I love movies. I love when they are able to combined both aspects . But I can go along with a movie that is wrong historically (I read books for that) but is at least well made and entertaining like for exemple; "Gladiator" , "the Imitation Game", "The Monuments Men" or even "Inglorious Bastard". But Napoleon was first and foremost so boring. I hated that movie.
I live near the real-life Austerlitz (Slavkov in Czech). There's a highway next to it, so you can see the battlefield every time you drive around it to Brno. I'm also quite versed in military history and my close friend is an expert on Napoleon's campaigns. We both laughed hysterically when we saw this rendition of the battle. It's sad Ridley Scott lost his touch.
@@skychia5777 It's a reference to the black granny that was in the Cleopatra ad from Netflix, where she says this exact line "I remember my grandmother saying to me: I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black"
@@WildCowGirlBabe No, no, he definitely meant to let his enemies believe they had the higher ground. In the ACTUAL Battle of Austerlitz, Napoleon was deceptive and evacuated his troops from the hills (aka the HIGH ground), maling the Austrians and Russians believe they had the advantage. A fog was also present to hide most of the French army, NOT tarps. From there, the Austrians and Russians would take the bait in the form of a small cavalry regiment not too far from the rest of the army. And once the Austrians and Russians took the bait, a large French army would emerge out of the fog and take the Austrians and Russians completely off-guard, forcing them to retreat across the ice, where the French cannons would open fire on the frozen lake.
If youre a film maker and have to translate the full history into a semi-fiction, which captures the spirit of the times in compressed timescale, while pleasing the general public and allowing for captivating marketing, and still turning a profit. Then its pretty good. And Id like to see the youtube finger waggers do better. Theyd end up with an historically accurate claymation and a bankrupt studio.
Its a mix of the opening battle from Gladiator and Saving private Ryan. Actually its not THAT bad. They just exaggerated minor episode of the battle and put in in the center of events. Almost as Napoleon himself did, btw. He Reported like 20 000 drоwned in those pond, haha. Anyways they could have done much much better with this movie. Still gonna watch it.
@@Макс22-е2ыMy guy it's bad. Both Peace & War movies did a better job the Ridley Scott's prediction. Comes to show that the old man has finally lost his edge in the modern age
It wasn’t painful. Your a cry baby who cares about history way to much. I care about the Titanic. But I didn’t complain in the 1997 movie. Just enjoy the damn movie.
Honestly just watch Waterloo if you want the real napoleon movie. Ending isnt the greatest but the 75 percent of it before that is easily the best depiction I've seen of Wellington and Napoleon
Thanks for the tip: i was so glad when i found out they were making this movie, then I saw the bloody "trailer" and just wanted to puke. I like Phoenix in the role too, but this stupid (and ive learned to expect gratuitous crap in movies) clown show wont even break even in Albanian VHS Rentals!
What's wrong with Waterloo's ending?? Napoleon's defeat and the destruction of the Old Guard was easily one of the best parts of the movie. But yes I agree with you, Waterloo is a masterpiece and it is a shame that more people don't know about it. Really underrated
I read a book from Max Gallo, a french historian, and apparently when the french artillery fired on the frozen lake the water wasn't deep and only a few russian soldiers drowned. I don't know why Ridley Scott didn't want to do a more accurate scene instead of rewriting history
One rainy day, Ridley, David and Joaquin sat in a bar and... "Guys, how about we pull off a 200-million worth troll move? Announce a movie about famous historical figure, get boatload of cash from Sony, then make movie intentionally so bad that everyone gets totally pissed and we get to laugh reading their angry comments".
at the very least it made their powder useless as falling into the water would render their shots useless. +the icy shock of cold water in the midst of facing artillery would psychologically lower moral at least for whatever Russian unit was charging. But yeah it probably wasn't a brilliant 10213948IQ move, it was just a good move on a series of good moves napoleon did to win the battle.
@@fierylightning3422 Perhaps, by being politically correct with current Western politics and the context of the war Russia is now in (at least a maximized real victory comes in handy).
Americans can't tell who the last five Vice-Presidents were let alone expound on Napoleonic history; we just eat popcorn and stare at the screen. Lol 🇺🇸
@@gterrymed Funny you mention America given this movie was made by a Brit. If you don’t even know who you’re criticizing I think you ought to stop talking.
So much passion went into displaying the scale of the battle, how communication could happen over long distances, and other little pieces that show off the difficulty of a battle of this scale. I just don't understand why Ridley Scott went for such an ahistorical account of events. There were so many amazing things he could have explored, it's just disappointing that a project with such great potential didn't stick to what really happened.
If your interest in the subject is casual it will make no difference, youll have forgotten most within the week, accurate or not. Youre in the cinema for loosely based history and entertainment. If your interest in the subject is more serious then youll research an accurate account and know the full details.
Scott in no way portrayed the scale of the battle. Your knowledge of it is in need of some reading. Almost everything about its depiction was historically inaccurate.
@@alt-monarchist I’m someone who likes history. Not someone who complains about a historic movie. I love the Titanic. I didn’t complain about the James Cameron movie.
The fact I was hyped for this movie until…. I heard about the disgusting and horrible inaccuracies to the real life and campaign of one of the truly greatest conquerors to have ever lived.
@@luisruperez1921 Do you know what greatest means? It means he was one of the best conquerors, which he was. I don't care about your opinions, he was one of the greatest conquerors.
you can see the tactical genius all over the place in this scene, do you need the audience to be beaten over the head with whats going on? I appreciate directors that don't make movies for the lowest common denominator
@@ArchaicTTV in the real battle the french army use the fog to just march in the middle of the austrian army, with the sun revealing the french when they were pratically few meters from the enemy, isn't this enough to show the tactical genius of napoleon? Do you need the abused trick of the ice lake for show this tactical genius?
@@ArchaicTTV Where? Where is there any tactical genius in this scene? Where do you get the slightest idea of the sheer size of these battles? It all looks like it takes place within a range of 500 meters at best. My first thought was: Why are they signaling? He could just walk over and tell them in person...
@@ArchaicTTV🤣 that's funny because u ARE THE LOWEST DENOMINATOR!!! This movie has been grilled to death by everyone, especially movie experts. There is NO battle genius in this clip at all. By saving the cannons for last, for after the battle you've increased ur losses by delaying deaths of ur enemy. 🤣 They portrayed him as a football coach!
Its not historical inaccurate. Its complete bullshit. If you dont care about the truth- yeah then you may like this scene. But its neither about napoleon nor about austerlitz
I used to live near Austerlitz. There isn't much forest and definitely no mountains like this. No valley either. Just rolling hills. War and Peace (2016) and the Napoleon miniseries are more accurate. This is entertaining though.
The real battle of Austerlitz was a bloody back and forth battle fought over 8 hours on a battlefield stretching 9 miles north to south. It wasn't this "clever trick" using cannons to smash frozen lakes under the feet of Russians in 10 minutes as portrayed here.
Ridley Scott, top actors & massive budget, fantastic episode of European history all blended together to produce this pit of absolute kack filled bilge!! Pity, cos it had the recipe to become a modern classic!!
YES, I AM NOT VERY HAPPY OF THIS SIMPLIFICATION AS SIMPLE AMBUSH FOR ONE OF THE MOST FORMIDABLE BATTLE IN WHOLE HISTORY: THE BATTLE OF THE 3 EMPERORS WITH 3 BIGGEST NATIONS ARMIES OF THE TIME (THE CLASH OF ABOUT 200 000 MEN WITH THOUSANDS OF HORSES AND HUNDREDS OF CANONS ON BOTH SIDES). THIS BATTLE COULD HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF ONE FILM LIKE THE FAMOUS "WATERLOO" FILM. BUT YOU CANT EXPECT FROM ENEMIES TO PRESENT YOU AS GOOD AS YOU REALLY ARE. I REALLY WONDER SOMETIMES WHY LOT OF AMERICANS FORGOT WHAT COUNTRY MADE THEM INDEPENDENT AND FROM WHAT COUNTRY. THE FACT THAT BRITS AND RUSSIANS SHOW FRENCH WHEN THEY LOSE, DOESNT SURPRISE ME SO MUCH.
Napoleon's assessment of the overall situation and his operational and tactical handling of it were brilliant. This makes it look like he knew the trickier tricks as if it were some nonsense out of a Kung Fu or Mel Gibson movie. I couldn't even watch the whole clip. Wow. It could have been so much better.
Except that this bears not the slightest resemblance to how the actual battle played out, this scene was okay. As long as you are willing to believe that the value of 'high ground' is to charge down from it onto level ground. :)
@@a1k1gen ah nope i get it, what is a Group of infantry going to do from high ground with Muskets? None of us have a clue how these wars were fought. Its all Opinion and speculation
he was very meticulous with his orders and would spend days sending orders across to all the different units involved in a campaign and was very detailed in what to do, where to rest, where to forage and bed down etc.
It's unbelievable that in all the whole battle we haven't seen a single fire-at-rank fight between infantries. For the love of god, a campament battle? where the f.. are the Preitzen highs???. Where was the west clash of cavalry??. The centre battle to take the high grounds. The battle of Imperial cavalries. The encirclement and .... ohh the lake garda, the only thing, and the least exciting of the whole battle. Basicaly they filmed a routing.
This movie was for ENTERTAINMENT only. It never claimed to be a faithful re-telling. For the love of God if you try to present the facts of Austerlitz, and all the other battles, while trying to show how Napoleon came to be the Emperor and lost his crown, the movie would have to be countless hours long! You people are just the worst kind of pedants.
@@superyid2010 what a idiotic comment, you dont need to focus 1hour on josefine matter to have a good napoleon movie. Nobody asks a detailed battle, but a least a 30% accurate one with exciting moments that actually happened and would take same time on screen. If you dont realize the director wanted to make the scenes of his liking instead of accuracy and deliberating ignoring spectators desires, you're the one pedant here.
@@bobmanhattan451 Well we are just simple peasants; they win millions for directing, and we pay in cinemas for that. Is not bad to expect a good quality movie.
@@KMDragonS Napoleon sent his army north in pursuit of the Allies but then ordered his forces to retreat so he could feign a grave weakness to lure the Allies into thinking that they were facing a weak army, while it was in fact formidable. Napoleon gave every indication in the days preceding the engagement that the French army was in a pitiful state, even abandoning the dominant Pratzen Heights near Austerlitz. He deployed the French army below the Pratzen Heights and deliberately weakened his right flank, enticing the Allies to launch a major assault there in the hopes of rolling up the French line. A forced march from Vienna by Marshal Davout and his III Corps plugged the gap left by Napoleon just in time. Meanwhile, the heavy Allied deployment against the French right weakened the Allied center on the Pratzen Heights, which was viciously attacked by the IV Corps of Marshal Soult. With the Allied center demolished, the French swept through both enemy flanks and sent the Allies fleeing chaotically, capturing thousands of prisoners in the process. There was no huge frozen lake, just ponds. .
I know, I was so disappointed!! What a waste! It was the first time I went to the theaters in years because I thought all the movies that came out seemed like shit. And this movie just proved me right.@@Inferno912
A British Light Infantry bugle badge on a shako at 4.12? The "Higher ground" line has already been covered. But the Austrians and Russians already had the high ground. Since when did Napoleon's army ever attack anything in a rabble? That said, when did the Austrians ever just advance in a mob, with cavalry breaking into a charge at random? Also, on what 19th century battlefield did the commander lazily wave a hand, and cavalry over half a mile away instantly advanced? Jeez Ridley, I get artistic license but what did you do to this? He should have just taken the battle and made a film about it. It was big enough, and he could have done it justice., You can't do Napoleon in a single film, or even a trilogy. Borodino alone was a big chunk of War and Peace.
@@monotech20.14They were retreating, and by retreating, I mean it had become a rout. Napoleon had hid some of his men on the right behind a ridge, with the very convenient assistance of the fog. When the fog very conveniently lifted just as Napoleon's men were brought forward to the top of the ridge, the coalition troops panicked, turned and ran for their lives. Napoleon's men reportedly fired cannon at the retreating men, breaking the ice in the lake, although historians dispute the details and number of deaths this supposedly caused.
Napoleon himself yells on the battlefield, and all the officers in the vast space and in the roar of the battle hear him. And Napoleon personally goes into cavalry attacks. Yes, yes, a very realistic movie.
Thanks Ridley Scott for watering-down Napoleon's military genius at Austerlitz, I had great respect for you when you made Gladiator and Alien but this movie has me reconsidering that respect.
@@gitzogutz exactly. i don't know why people think gladiator is such a great movie.. i mean.. probably cause not many movies like that were made, because it was inaccurate af. it's fantasy at best. in the real world, maximus would have been dead the moment they knew he was alive. no gladiator has ever been regarded above the emperor of rome lol
This movie had so much potential but in an attempt to cover Napoleon in a unique way, Scott produced instead a generic romance, of which this isn't even a decent one at that.
What makes you think they were locals? Most men in the army had never traveled more than 50 miles from the spot they were born when they joined the army, and half the men there were from a different country entirely.
napo-lean-kenobi : "it's over Czechian, I have the high ground" czechian: "you underestimate my power!" napo-lean-kenobi: "don't try it..." basically this xD
Of course, as others have pointed out already, this doesn't have anything to do with the way battles were fought in that day - but to be fair, I believe the real Napoleon would've loved this simply for the spectacle.
I loved how, from beginning to the end of the movie, Napoleon began every attack and sortie with the phrase, "Aller directement à la vidéo!!!" Vraiment, Monsieur le Roi!!!
@@professorbenjaminfranklinv9911 My issue with this movie is that it wouldn't have been difficult or more expensive to be more historically accurate. There are some parts in this movie I admire and there's some evidence they did their research, but then there's parts like Napoleon leading a charge into Russians at Borodino that make the movie seem like a joke.
The soldiers on both sides were incredibly hardy and strong. To be able to march and fight in those conditions and clothing and with the hardships of gathering food and shelter is a testament to Napoleon's leadership.
These were not the conditions they fought in at Austerlitz. December 2, 1805, was a beautiful day with a low-hanging mist that cleared as the sun heated the atmosphere.
The battle on this ice was overblown and only about 100 enemy were drowned. Historians says this is Napoleonic propaganda. Like Ukrainians destroying Russian tanks with 25 mm cannons on Bradley infantry vehicles!!
This battle scene, it was like a 12 year old came up with it. "Take their higher ground (proceeds to run into camp that they let be overtaken, definitely NOT higher ground)
One cool thing is the use of colors. Red is used sparingly except for the French flag. Then once the trap (historically inaccurate as it is) unfolds, we see cascades of red from the bloody water. And in the water we see three colors: Blue, white, and red. The colors of the French flag.
Everyone is running around like chickens without heads. Correct me if I'm wrong but infantry units during this time period marched in formation. They only broke apart when routed.
THE HORROR Scott got old and demented if he believed that he ever had any chance recording anything even close to accurate .He took a decade and tried to squeeze it into aa movie that was never really real in anything except in massive ego of Ridley Scott ...This movie is a master piece in how to completely fail in everything
Can we just be thankful that epic films like this are still being made? Billions are being spent on superheroes crap everyday and here we have a genius like Ridley sharing his vision on his own style.
@@videogamesare1 Well thats just silly, not the disagreeing in and of itself but with the core concept, we should expect better then an expensive poop of a film
It is a piece of garbadge made by Garry Garbadgemen who happens to be studying garbadge at Cambridge university. I have never seen something as bad as this. I mean the audio doesn't even correspond with what we see. And it's supposed to be one of the biggest productions of 2023. Even Netflix can depict battles more accuratly.
@adamcohen4864 I mean Napoléon Bonaparte is known to have been the Emperor of the French form 1804 to 1815 and to be the best general in history. He was born in 1769 and died in 1821. But you have Wikipedia for that kind of question...
Waterloo 1970 is better in my opinion. They might have bad things and some huge mistakes, but I can see Imperial Guards on action more than Napoleon 2023. Even in Waterloo scene of Napoleon 2023, I see no Guards in the Advance of the Imperial Guard
I love all the mountains with a big frozen lake while we have highest peak here like 300 meters above sea level and few fish ponds which are like 2-3 meters deep 🤣
In real life, Napoleon would probably have sat in a chair and had a drink while watching the show. In the middle of the battle of Austerliz and so confident of his victory, some testimonies report that he took a little nap on the ground. Like “I did my homework yesterday, now I’m sleeping!” Savage 😅
That isn’t correct, once the pretzel heights where taken he immediately went up there in person to oversee the canons being fired on the lake, napoleon was famous for being involved in the fighting
I refuse to watch this film. Really, the best film about Napoleon has to be WATERLOO 1971 with Rod Steiger. The reason for this is that the Russians made it and it had something like 20k actors in full historical garb with real horses and if you pull up scenes from that film it trumps anything done today because it has a realism to it that is more akin with what it probably actually looked like. Phoenix was totally miscast from what I have seen and the film is more in line with what Ridley thinks than what actually happened. It's a shame Ridley has no real knowledge of Napoleon.
This is for sure not the kind of landscape at Austerlitz. I drove along the historic battlefield in the Czech Republic on the motorway - it's flat with occasional hills
Много неточностей: тяжёлая кавалерия атакует рассыпным строем, линейная пехота передвигается бегом (тогда как даже скорость штыковой атаки - 120 шагов в минуту) и т.д. Но всё вместе, как ни странно, эффектно выглядит.
Ridley Scott has never been a writer. He is a director. A visionary director who focus on product design, camera movements and shots, cinematography, art direction, color, sound effects, editing, costume design, action...like battle scenes, choreography.... He doesn't give a fuck if the scene is historically inaccurate because what matters for him is the audiovisual experience. You have to understand that. And he can do it, because this movie is not a documentary. It's a movie. Most of the things in the movie are historically correct and the background is solid. That's the point. Then cinema is fiction. And you can add whatever you want. The goal is just to make it powerful and entertaining. And this movie manage perfectly to do that. David Scarpa wrote this screenplay and... That's the problem. The characters are not interesting, the dialogue, the story, plot twist and everything was a little bit cold and not perfect. But Ridley is Ridley and manages to create fucking great battle scenes... That's the point. The movie is good. It's not a masterpiece, but it is an enjoyable movie. Take a tea and enjoy it... Like a movie...
Overall the tactics the layout and the short duration of battle people are complaining about since it's definitely wrong. Such as the cannonballs on the ice Napolean in history exaggerated saying thousands died but realistically only a couple hundred died due to that play. The battle was miles long and over a full day as well. People are so upset about this however on my side I just love it for the drama effect despite it being depicted wrong. This battle is inaccurate in the movie to what it was in history but what I keep telling people is if you want to see a Documentary then go see a Documentary, this is a movie and this is drama of course there's gonna be a few wrong points, they're not gonna make one whole battle the entire movie when it's about Napolean and his story not a movie about one of Napoleans battles.
1. cold but no snow with a low lying fog that obscured napoleons main force from view. 2. had 150,000 men fighting on the battlefield with napoleon having less 3. napoleon weaken his right flank to lure the enemy to attack it so they would leave the heights in the middle of the 6-7 mile long front line, so that he could attack the heights and split the Russian/Austrian army in two 4. the Russian/Austrian commanders saw the weak right flank and planned to do exactly what napoleon wanted so they could break though it and encircle him from the south. 5. battle went how napoleon wanted leading the left flank of the enemy army having to retreat south across a frozen lake due to being encircled themselves by napoleon's right flank and the corps now occupying the heights, about 100 men were killed by cannonballs or drowning when the French tried to break the ice ;Union of Salvation 2019 movie shows a accurate depiction of how cannon balls affects ice.
This is comfortably the worst portrayal of combat in this time period that I have ever seen, let alone conceived of. It's like Ridley Scott made it this wilfully awful for a bet.
The eternal Anglo strikes again Napoleon must had been a truly great man if Anglos are still butthurt about him enough to keep trying to discredit him 200 years after
Very sad that it isn't historical.. But I am also a fan of historical fiction, as this may not be labeled as such, it's a let down... That said! This is a heartbreaking scene that manages to get the look down to the point of it simply being badass. Enjoy it for what it is, not what it could be. Not like they're gonna update the movie..
Keep in mind at what point in the battle this is. This is after napoleons destruction of their center. This scene is when they swung around to crush the austrian/russian left; where marshal Davout had held his ground. The portrayal isnt awful, but it has some holes unless time had passed between the quick flashing scenes. Where is davout? How is napoleon talking to his whole army? If ridley had just spent a little more time learning the history the scene could've been perfect.
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 If your attacking like napoleon is in this scene they are just in the way. trenches are defences or protection. remember that at the time they used line formations, if you use trenches your slowing down how quickly you can form up to attack
Napoleon is French, last I checked. Joaquin sounds like he's narrating a book report he did on Napoleon in high school. Could he not muster a French accent? British accent would've been acceptable.
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This movie was made to give every history teacher a heart attack.
it is a movie not documentary, get your shit togheter and drink something to clam yourself!
@@maximus-6788 I'll bet this guy is down a couple.
@@maximus-6788 I'm fine thank you. I'm just saying that there's no point in making an history movie about a character and an era if you miss everything about them. Battles are so ridiculously depicted that I wouldn't be surprised to see fighter jets or UFOs joining the melee. Actually, Scott should have done that, it would have been more consistent.
Shitty movie, period.
@@maximus-6788 yeah... the movie was bad lmao
I liked when Napoleon said "it's napoleonin time" and napoleoned the historical accuracy
such a napoleon thing to napoleon
The battle on this ice was overblown and only about 100 enemy were drowned. Historians says this is Napoleonic propaganda. Like Ukrainians destroying Russian tanks with 25 mm cannons on Bradley infantry vehicles!!
@@iamgermaneand the lake was deep as the ocean, LOL :D
@@iamgermane It's true that is mostly propaganda, as if the Austrian Army would march over a frozen river, scouts would've been sent ahead and this battle was planned on both sides, only a few hundred at most tried to flee across a river at the end of the battle and it was blown up by Napoleon, tho is does sound cool.
@@iamgermane25 mm cannon can absolutely destroy a Russian tank lol that parts 100% accurate
Ridley Scott after playing Napoleon Total War:
"Time to make a movie"
he deleted ntw3 so he went back to vanilla
Napoleon total war has more historically accurate battles let’s be real
@@mr.ottoman1371 deleted cos he couldnt win his first game after playing 12 point 1805 france
@@zacharykoplin6543 lol
What kills me about this is Joaquin says 'let them think they have the higher ground' in this scene. Which is correct since the actual Battle of Austerlitz did revolve around letting the opponent have the Plateau of Pratzen so they'd feel secure.
Only we're not seeing the Austrians and Russians occupy a higher ground here. Throughout the scene they're on an even field and later an icy lake. It's the French who occupy the high ground from the start.
So why did Scott include that line? To tease us with the actual Battle of Austerlitz?
Yeah, that's a bit weird.
maybe not the actual high ground since they rush towards the camp, maybe he meant it to be the upperhand
@@Rawarart Maybe. But then later he explicitly says 'take their position on the higher ground', which is also something that happened at the actual Battle of Austerlitz.
I think Joaquin is saying things that would fit the actual battle, but don't fit with what we're seeing in this scene at all.
"Let them think they have the element of surprise!" Would have been a more fitting line.
@@MadFox-jr6by In the scene we got, yes absolutely. But of course the line would be fine if Ridley Scott made any effort to depict the Battle of Austerlitz.
Ridley Scott's version of Aliens was more Historically accurate
Underrated comment
😂
Its a movie
Lol. I like your comment for the shade, but will still be open to watching it.
It took me four attempts to be able to finish that movie. I love history and I love movies. I love when they are able to combined both aspects . But I can go along with a movie that is wrong historically (I read books for that) but is at least well made and entertaining like for exemple; "Gladiator" , "the Imitation Game", "The Monuments Men" or even "Inglorious Bastard". But Napoleon was first and foremost so boring. I hated that movie.
Napoleon used a brilliant form of communication, his orders were instantly received by all units without a radio. :D
How?
@@OnionSavoya-jf5hz 😀
@@OnionSavoya-jf5hz soundwaves.
@@GFS695
Sound waves?
All ADC's had speed super powers.
I live near the real-life Austerlitz (Slavkov in Czech). There's a highway next to it, so you can see the battlefield every time you drive around it to Brno. I'm also quite versed in military history and my close friend is an expert on Napoleon's campaigns.
We both laughed hysterically when we saw this rendition of the battle. It's sad Ridley Scott lost his touch.
nice place for metal detecting
Nah, i was in this battle and died. It was foggy, cold and gray.
@@hoenircanute Hahahahahaha
@@hoenircanute I just cant. this is too funny!!!
It is actually a flat country.
"I remember my grandfather saying to me: I don't care what they tell you in school, battle of Austerlitz looked this way." (Ridley Scott, 2023)
Then l guess his grandfather is completely wrong
@@skychia5777 It's one of those gay memethingies people do. Like that old 'He Protec, he attac'.
Mrs Smith? Allo?
The grandpa thought it happened in 1916 or some shit
@@skychia5777 It's a reference to the black granny that was in the Cleopatra ad from Netflix, where she says this exact line "I remember my grandmother saying to me: I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black"
Napoleon: "Let them think they have the high ground."
Also Napoleon: *is on the high ground*
To him, he’s on a low ground.
But that isn't what Napoleon was trying to tell them. He was trying to tell his soldiers to let the enemy think they have the higher advantage
@@WildCowGirlBabe No, no, he definitely meant to let his enemies believe they had the higher ground. In the ACTUAL Battle of Austerlitz, Napoleon was deceptive and evacuated his troops from the hills (aka the HIGH ground), maling the Austrians and Russians believe they had the advantage. A fog was also present to hide most of the French army, NOT tarps. From there, the Austrians and Russians would take the bait in the form of a small cavalry regiment not too far from the rest of the army. And once the Austrians and Russians took the bait, a large French army would emerge out of the fog and take the Austrians and Russians completely off-guard, forcing them to retreat across the ice, where the French cannons would open fire on the frozen lake.
Obi wan kenobi from star wars
If you're a fan of military history, this depiction of the battle is torture.
If youre a film maker and have to translate the full history into a semi-fiction, which captures the spirit of the times in compressed timescale, while pleasing the general public and allowing for captivating marketing, and still turning a profit. Then its pretty good.
And Id like to see the youtube finger waggers do better. Theyd end up with an historically accurate claymation and a bankrupt studio.
@@tedcrilly46but my guy, there's TRENCHES In the scene😢
@@potatomine6678 oh no. Best not go see it then. Save yourself.
@@tedcrilly46 I will save myself, don't worry Bro.
@@potatomine6678 👍
Of all the things that didn't happen, this wins the highest award.
Yeah like TRENCHES in 1805 my guy? TRENCHES IN 1805?
@@potatomine6678 They should have added some aliens. I mean if you're gonna fail at History, go big, man.
I don't know. Nappy being part of a cavalry charge at Waterloo has to be competitive.
@@kduke42 yeah
@@kduke42 dont forget the sniper scope musket
All I could think of was Monty Python: "Run away! Run away!" LOL!
There is so much wrong with this portrayal of the Battle of Austerlitz. The Napoleon miniseries did it justice.
What streaming service has the mini series?
Stop watching Hollywood for historical accuracy. That's on you, not Ridley and Jaquin. They're trying to make money, not a documentary.
@@thedude1987I believe NSA was referring to EpicHistoryTV’s RUclips miniseries on Napoleonic Wars.
Its a mix of the opening battle from Gladiator and Saving private Ryan. Actually its not THAT bad. They just exaggerated minor episode of the battle and put in in the center of events. Almost as Napoleon himself did, btw. He Reported like 20 000 drоwned in those pond, haha. Anyways they could have done much much better with this movie. Still gonna watch it.
@@Макс22-е2ыMy guy it's bad. Both Peace & War movies did a better job the Ridley Scott's prediction. Comes to show that the old man has finally lost his edge in the modern age
Painful to watch, when you know anything about this battle and the Napoleonic Warfare.
Painfull anyway...a very coarse painting made by a declining artist
I mean, it looked cool
Cinematography was good no? Lol. I do get the criticism though. You'd think with this big a budget they could afford some historical accuracy
It wasn’t painful. Your a cry baby who cares about history way to much. I care about the Titanic. But I didn’t complain in the 1997 movie. Just enjoy the damn movie.
@@zh2266 Cinematography also below standard, battle of basterds was masterful at fraction of the cost
Napoleon was a super young man here, and they made him look like he was pushing 60 years old 😂😂😂😂
Honestly just watch Waterloo if you want the real napoleon movie. Ending isnt the greatest but the 75 percent of it before that is easily the best depiction I've seen of Wellington and Napoleon
Such a good film, honestly felt like you were there
No matter how much I've watched Napoleon movies, it really hurts seeing the greatest general losing so much in his last battle.
Thanks for the tip: i was so glad when i found out they were making this movie, then I saw the bloody "trailer" and just wanted to puke. I like Phoenix in the role too, but this stupid (and ive learned to expect gratuitous crap in movies) clown show wont even break even in Albanian VHS Rentals!
@@k-studio8112I finally understand why my sisters keep watching titanic
What's wrong with Waterloo's ending?? Napoleon's defeat and the destruction of the Old Guard was easily one of the best parts of the movie. But yes I agree with you, Waterloo is a masterpiece and it is a shame that more people don't know about it. Really underrated
I read a book from Max Gallo, a french historian, and apparently when the french artillery fired on the frozen lake the water wasn't deep and only a few russian soldiers drowned. I don't know why Ridley Scott didn't want to do a more accurate scene instead of rewriting history
One rainy day, Ridley, David and Joaquin sat in a bar and... "Guys, how about we pull off a 200-million worth troll move? Announce a movie about famous historical figure, get boatload of cash from Sony, then make movie intentionally so bad that everyone gets totally pissed and we get to laugh reading their angry comments".
Because this was the propagandized version of the battle.
at the very least it made their powder useless as falling into the water would render their shots useless. +the icy shock of cold water in the midst of facing artillery would psychologically lower moral at least for whatever Russian unit was charging.
But yeah it probably wasn't a brilliant 10213948IQ move, it was just a good move on a series of good moves napoleon did to win the battle.
@@fierylightning3422 Perhaps, by being politically correct with current Western politics and the context of the war Russia is now in (at least a maximized real victory comes in handy).
Don't put the blame squarely on Ridley, Napoleon also had a way with propaganda; inflating those numbers to suit his purpose.
can we all agree that the most dedicated cast members are the horses?
With that kinda atmospheric setting, this could have been such powerful scene, had he stuck to history.
Americans can't tell who the last five Vice-Presidents were let alone expound on Napoleonic history; we just eat popcorn and stare at the screen. Lol 🇺🇸
@@gterrymed Funny you mention America given this movie was made by a Brit. If you don’t even know who you’re criticizing I think you ought to stop talking.
@@fatboyRAY24 LOL! True! Some people just wanna talk.
@@fatboyRAY24 Does that matter? Americans would make up a large portion of the target audience.
Where you there though?
"It''s a trap!"
Admiral Ackbar: "No shit."
General Kutuzov: "I told you"
Mfing napoleon: Got em boys.
6:22 I lol'd
Calvary just magically appeared before his verbal command
Wait you can’t summon a calvary by verbal command? EVERYONE AND THEIR GRANDMOTHERS can summon a Calvary by their verbal command
Maybe one day we'll get a proper modern film on this era
Master and commander.
@@tommiatkins3443 my favorite film. I was thinking one that shows the infantry battles
@@bennihana2422 Does "Waterloo" qualify?
@@pianopeterr does indeed
Once Europeans can start making their own films and not just Anglo's and Israeli's then yeah.
So much passion went into displaying the scale of the battle, how communication could happen over long distances, and other little pieces that show off the difficulty of a battle of this scale. I just don't understand why Ridley Scott went for such an ahistorical account of events. There were so many amazing things he could have explored, it's just disappointing that a project with such great potential didn't stick to what really happened.
If your interest in the subject is casual it will make no difference, youll have forgotten most within the week, accurate or not. Youre in the cinema for loosely based history and entertainment.
If your interest in the subject is more serious then youll research an accurate account and know the full details.
Scott in no way portrayed the scale of the battle. Your knowledge of it is in need of some reading. Almost everything about its depiction was historically inaccurate.
Just cope and move on
An English depictyng a French? What could go wrong? THIS MOVIE
Scale? Communication? I see none of that here.
If you want to see scale watch Waterloo or the depiction of Borodino from War & Peace.
This is NOT the Battle of Austerlitz. This is the Marvel version of the Battle of Austerlitz
Es la batalla de Ásterix.
I can’t care. Still a great movie. (Coming from a historian)
@@FrankSinatrq Pseudo-Historian
@@alt-monarchist I’m someone who likes history. Not someone who complains about a historic movie. I love the Titanic. I didn’t complain about the James Cameron movie.
Why my country depicted here looks like some place in Wisconsin or Brittish Columbia?
The fact I was hyped for this movie until…. I heard about the disgusting and horrible inaccuracies to the real life and campaign of one of the truly greatest conquerors to have ever lived.
One of the greatest butchers you mean
@@luisruperez1921 He was a conqueror, you deny that?
@@luisruperez1921butcher? All Europe was against France. He didn’t massacred thousands of innocent people like Hitler or Staline did
@@plantboy6249 No, I deny there is something "great" about it
@@luisruperez1921 Do you know what greatest means? It means he was one of the best conquerors, which he was. I don't care about your opinions, he was one of the greatest conquerors.
Such a opportunity thrown away. The visuals are perfect. The history portrayed as through a kaleidoscope, the tactical genius of the battle unseen.
you can see the tactical genius all over the place in this scene, do you need the audience to be beaten over the head with whats going on? I appreciate directors that don't make movies for the lowest common denominator
@@ArchaicTTV in the real battle the french army use the fog to just march in the middle of the austrian army, with the sun revealing the french when they were pratically few meters from the enemy, isn't this enough to show the tactical genius of napoleon? Do you need the abused trick of the ice lake for show this tactical genius?
@@ArchaicTTV Where? Where is there any tactical genius in this scene? Where do you get the slightest idea of the sheer size of these battles? It all looks like it takes place within a range of 500 meters at best. My first thought was: Why are they signaling? He could just walk over and tell them in person...
@@ArchaicTTV🤣 that's funny because u ARE THE LOWEST DENOMINATOR!!! This movie has been grilled to death by everyone, especially movie experts. There is NO battle genius in this clip at all. By saving the cannons for last, for after the battle you've increased ur losses by delaying deaths of ur enemy. 🤣 They portrayed him as a football coach!
How did they not know they were about to cross a frozen lake?
You can’t lie though, without the historical inaccuracies this is a masterfully shot and edited battle sequence
Finally, someone else is saying it!
it looks horrible. the CGI is atrocious. 4/10
@@laius6047 that's simply not true, come on. You don't like the movie, fine, but give it its credit
agree
Its not historical inaccurate. Its complete bullshit. If you dont care about the truth- yeah then you may like this scene. But its neither about napoleon nor about austerlitz
I used to live near Austerlitz. There isn't much forest and definitely no mountains like this. No valley either. Just rolling hills. War and Peace (2016) and the Napoleon miniseries are more accurate. This is entertaining though.
you lived there hundreds of ywars ago? damn
no lol. but mountains and valleys don't magically appear in 200 years.@@zachporter8864
@@zachporter8864 just look at artistic depictions of the battle from the time please
@@bluestraw4060 i was making a joke >.>
@@bluestraw4060 have to admit his comment is perfect for it lol,he Used to live there. couldve been 3000 years ago
"My good wife Josephine"
Lmao
Napoleon was once a Joker of Gotham city 😂
yah you are right🤣
This aged well.
The real battle of Austerlitz was a bloody back and forth battle fought over 8 hours on a battlefield stretching 9 miles north to south. It wasn't this "clever trick" using cannons to smash frozen lakes under the feet of Russians in 10 minutes as portrayed here.
Ridley Scott, top actors & massive budget, fantastic episode of European history all blended together to produce this pit of absolute kack filled bilge!! Pity, cos it had the recipe to become a modern classic!!
YES, I AM NOT VERY HAPPY OF THIS SIMPLIFICATION AS SIMPLE AMBUSH FOR ONE OF THE MOST FORMIDABLE BATTLE IN WHOLE HISTORY: THE BATTLE OF THE 3 EMPERORS WITH 3 BIGGEST NATIONS ARMIES OF THE TIME (THE CLASH OF ABOUT 200 000 MEN WITH THOUSANDS OF HORSES AND HUNDREDS OF CANONS ON BOTH SIDES).
THIS BATTLE COULD HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF ONE FILM LIKE THE FAMOUS "WATERLOO" FILM. BUT YOU CANT EXPECT FROM ENEMIES TO PRESENT YOU AS GOOD AS YOU REALLY ARE.
I REALLY WONDER SOMETIMES WHY LOT OF AMERICANS FORGOT WHAT COUNTRY MADE THEM INDEPENDENT AND FROM WHAT COUNTRY.
THE FACT THAT BRITS AND RUSSIANS SHOW FRENCH WHEN THEY LOSE, DOESNT SURPRISE ME SO MUCH.
@@marcdedouvan Ridley Scott is British, not American.
@@kevinchen7403 OKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL IS REVEALED NOW!
Also because the frozen lake part was at the very end of the battle when everything was already lost for the Austrian Russian army.
Napoleon's assessment of the overall situation and his operational and tactical handling of it were brilliant. This makes it look like he knew the trickier tricks as if it were some nonsense out of a Kung Fu or Mel Gibson movie. I couldn't even watch the whole clip. Wow. It could have been so much better.
The great general obi wan say once high ground is everything 😅
Except that this bears not the slightest resemblance to how the actual battle played out, this scene was okay. As long as you are willing to believe that the value of 'high ground' is to charge down from it onto level ground. :)
Let me guess, you were there to see the OG battle
@@adamn5666 You missed the point of his comment
@@a1k1gen ah nope i get it, what is a Group of infantry going to do from high ground with Muskets? None of us have a clue how these wars were fought. Its all Opinion and speculation
he was very meticulous with his orders and would spend days sending orders across to all the different units involved in a campaign and was very detailed in what to do, where to rest, where to forage and bed down etc.
@@adamn5666 have you ever heard of primary sources? We're not dealing with ancient warfare here, this is contemporary history.
It's unbelievable that in all the whole battle we haven't seen a single fire-at-rank fight between infantries. For the love of god, a campament battle? where the f.. are the Preitzen highs???. Where was the west clash of cavalry??. The centre battle to take the high grounds. The battle of Imperial cavalries. The encirclement and .... ohh the lake garda, the only thing, and the least exciting of the whole battle. Basicaly they filmed a routing.
This movie was for ENTERTAINMENT only. It never claimed to be a faithful re-telling. For the love of God if you try to present the facts of Austerlitz, and all the other battles, while trying to show how Napoleon came to be the Emperor and lost his crown, the movie would have to be countless hours long! You people are just the worst kind of pedants.
@@superyid2010 what a idiotic comment, you dont need to focus 1hour on josefine matter to have a good napoleon movie. Nobody asks a detailed battle, but a least a 30% accurate one with exciting moments that actually happened and would take same time on screen. If you dont realize the director wanted to make the scenes of his liking instead of accuracy and deliberating ignoring spectators desires, you're the one pedant here.
Agree 100% with this. People who watch this obviously enjoy history so just be glad epic films like this are even made ! @superyid2010
Maybe you should of directed the movie🙄
@@bobmanhattan451 Well we are just simple peasants; they win millions for directing, and we pay in cinemas for that. Is not bad to expect a good quality movie.
The version of Waterloo with Rod Steiger & Christopher Plummer was the best in ALL respects...this version of Napoleon just plain sux‼️🐈⬛🏴☠️
I guess the original Battle of Austerlitz wasn't exciting enough for them. Hollywood really knows how to mess things up, don't they?
EeeeeeeeYUP!
How did it go
@@KMDragonS Napoleon sent his army north in pursuit of the Allies but then ordered his forces to retreat so he could feign a grave weakness to lure the Allies into thinking that they were facing a weak army, while it was in fact formidable. Napoleon gave every indication in the days preceding the engagement that the French army was in a pitiful state, even abandoning the dominant Pratzen Heights near Austerlitz. He deployed the French army below the Pratzen Heights and deliberately weakened his right flank, enticing the Allies to launch a major assault there in the hopes of rolling up the French line. A forced march from Vienna by Marshal Davout and his III Corps plugged the gap left by Napoleon just in time. Meanwhile, the heavy Allied deployment against the French right weakened the Allied center on the Pratzen Heights, which was viciously attacked by the IV Corps of Marshal Soult. With the Allied center demolished, the French swept through both enemy flanks and sent the Allies fleeing chaotically, capturing thousands of prisoners in the process.
There was no huge frozen lake, just ponds. .
Inaccurate depictions of the Battle of Austerlitz do haunt me so.
The director is Ridley Scott. He's English, not American.
Not sure the movie is going to be good if only 10 minutes was devoted to Austerlitz, his masterpiece
the movie focus is Napoleon love life :)
@@Rastamanjungle yikes
TERRIBLE MOVIE, all his major exploits shown in the movie were nothing but brief clips, it was like watching a 2.5 hour trailer!
crap movie. Should have been called: Josephine (his wife).
should have been titled: Josephine.@@Rastamanjungle
"just a prank"
The prank in question
10 minutes? That's all it got? This battle alone could be an entire movie...
Their goal: let's make a chick flick but just put enough battle in for a good trailer.
See the trailer you've seen the movie.
Aren't you seeing that it is more important to focus the film on the toxic love of Napoleon and Josephine?
Yeah like waterloo (from 1970) and it's way bettee than this shit
@@PUG19 I hope this is sarcastic
@@potatomine6678 I'll have to check it out
What an insult to the thousands of men who died there...
As a Canadian, visiting the battlefield, and Waterloo just a week before last spring was a dream come true, and then I was super hyped for this movie
Yea, but sadly movie is not made the right way. 4/10@@jonathanallard2128
I know, I was so disappointed!! What a waste!
It was the first time I went to the theaters in years because I thought all the movies that came out seemed like shit. And this movie just proved me right.@@Inferno912
@@Inferno912 why ?
Don't worry I heard most of them didn't go to see this movie bc they had to work
A British Light Infantry bugle badge on a shako at 4.12? The "Higher ground" line has already been covered. But the Austrians and Russians already had the high ground. Since when did Napoleon's army ever attack anything in a rabble? That said, when did the Austrians ever just advance in a mob, with cavalry breaking into a charge at random? Also, on what 19th century battlefield did the commander lazily wave a hand, and cavalry over half a mile away instantly advanced? Jeez Ridley, I get artistic license but what did you do to this? He should have just taken the battle and made a film about it. It was big enough, and he could have done it justice., You can't do Napoleon in a single film, or even a trilogy. Borodino alone was a big chunk of War and Peace.
Don’t interrupt your enemies when they are making mistakes. Napoleon Bonaparte
Thats Sun Tzu
@@UparmoredClownCar No, that quote was in fact Napoleon.
🤣 that's why no one interrupted the making of this movie! IT WAS ALL A MISTAKE!
How did they not know they were about to cross a frozen lake?
@@monotech20.14They were retreating, and by retreating, I mean it had become a rout. Napoleon had hid some of his men on the right behind a ridge, with the very convenient assistance of the fog. When the fog very conveniently lifted just as Napoleon's men were brought forward to the top of the ridge, the coalition troops panicked, turned and ran for their lives. Napoleon's men reportedly fired cannon at the retreating men, breaking the ice in the lake, although historians dispute the details and number of deaths this supposedly caused.
At this point, I would have set this battle in space.
Napoleon himself yells on the battlefield, and all the officers in the vast space and in the roar of the battle hear him. And Napoleon personally goes into cavalry attacks. Yes, yes, a very realistic movie.
Thanks Ridley Scott for watering-down Napoleon's military genius at Austerlitz, I had great respect for you when you made Gladiator and Alien but this movie has me reconsidering that respect.
Scott is 80+ years old 😮 what do you expect.
@@MaDFroG88Sounds like that some logic should apply to the president of the US😂😂
For the record, Gladiator was so historically inaccurate that it makes Napoleon look like a documentary
So his work is lacking and he’s maybe lost his touch…so you take away the respect? Please don’t ever be a leader.
@@gitzogutz exactly. i don't know why people think gladiator is such a great movie.. i mean.. probably cause not many movies like that were made, because it was inaccurate af. it's fantasy at best. in the real world, maximus would have been dead the moment they knew he was alive. no gladiator has ever been regarded above the emperor of rome lol
This movie had so much potential but in an attempt to cover Napoleon in a unique way, Scott produced instead a generic romance, of which this isn't even a decent one at that.
Is it a romance? I thought it was a comedy.
Actually it was quite a horror
1970s Waterloo too his day is still the most accurate Napoleon movie. Fascinating film
So the locals didn't know their own geography in this version?
The didn't have google map back then but napoleon did
What makes you think they were locals? Most men in the army had never traveled more than 50 miles from the spot they were born when they joined the army, and half the men there were from a different country entirely.
@@christopherpardell4418which country/ empire??
@@PortugalZeroworldcup Napoleon’s letter stated that his former allies had joined with his enemy. The Czar.
@@christopherpardell4418 is this specific to the battle in the video?? Which year ??
And what do you think of the movie overall??
napo-lean-kenobi : "it's over Czechian, I have the high ground"
czechian: "you underestimate my power!"
napo-lean-kenobi: "don't try it..."
basically this xD
Was looking for something like this on the high-ground line, lol
@@treeburger a surprise to be sure...but a welcomed one x)
Although quite inacurrate, this scene, in combination with the soundtrack, is one of the best in the movie.
This movie and Joaquin's performance deserve a razzie.
Yeah, I questioned the choice of JP for this role. Maybe a brit? They have very good actors.
Pues no , estuvo en los Oscars , no como The Flash y Blue Blettle que si lo estuvieron
Of course, as others have pointed out already, this doesn't have anything to do with the way battles were fought in that day - but to be fair, I believe the real Napoleon would've loved this simply for the spectacle.
The real Napoleon is probably watching this from the afterlife half-between malding and salivating lol
The worst part of this is that young students will think this is the way the Battle really happened.
I loved how, from beginning to the end of the movie, Napoleon began every attack and sortie with the phrase, "Aller directement à la vidéo!!!" Vraiment, Monsieur le Roi!!!
"Free baguettes after the battle!"
They should have made this into a series and take their time. Trying to squeeze Napoleons achievements into a single movie is impossible.
"Let them think they have a higher ground" "Wow NAPOLEON THE GREAT" your a great Ruler and Warrior ⚔️
I guess historians are expensive to hire for making films now. Just dress up, do whatever you want and make the picture look good on editing.
Plot twist: napoleon won because he had the high ground 😂
It’s a movie. Go watch Jurassic Park if you want nonfiction.
@@professorbenjaminfranklinv9911 My issue with this movie is that it wouldn't have been difficult or more expensive to be more historically accurate. There are some parts in this movie I admire and there's some evidence they did their research, but then there's parts like Napoleon leading a charge into Russians at Borodino that make the movie seem like a joke.
You underestimate the power of Alexander and Francis.
Napoleon won because wellington lost. 😂😂
Historically though he actually won by giving up the high ground .
"Let them think they have the high ground."
Me: they're literally walking on the lowest ground
I think Ridley Scott paid a middle school kid as history coach of this movie...
The soldiers on both sides were incredibly hardy and strong. To be able to march and fight in those conditions and clothing and with the hardships of gathering food and shelter is a testament to Napoleon's leadership.
These were not the conditions they fought in at Austerlitz. December 2, 1805, was a beautiful day with a low-hanging mist that cleared as the sun heated the atmosphere.
@@RollTide1987then why portray it missing the mark so far its a harsh winter in this scene
@@derekkase7884drama
Or they were fools. The Napoleonic wars of this time gave birth to the phrase "cannon fodder."
The battle on this ice was overblown and only about 100 enemy were drowned. Historians says this is Napoleonic propaganda. Like Ukrainians destroying Russian tanks with 25 mm cannons on Bradley infantry vehicles!!
This movie was so inaccurate that it made British propaganda look like a trusted source for Napoleon
As a study of the man and what drove him it's a good film, as a record or what happened historically it's about as accurate as Monty Python
This battle scene, it was like a 12 year old came up with it. "Take their higher ground (proceeds to run into camp that they let be overtaken, definitely NOT higher ground)
Those are some wobbly bayonets
Napoleon should have made use of Air Support and drone strikes.
Yes. He should have. But other than that, Napoleon was a true American Warrior!
One cool thing is the use of colors. Red is used sparingly except for the French flag. Then once the trap (historically inaccurate as it is) unfolds, we see cascades of red from the bloody water. And in the water we see three colors: Blue, white, and red. The colors of the French flag.
This man has now played Johnny Cash, The Joker, and Napoleon Bonaparte. That’s quite a resume
How could you forget Commodus?
the reason he isnt getting his toes licked by women is he also has the minor league strike out record.
Everyone is running around like chickens without heads. Correct me if I'm wrong but infantry units during this time period marched in formation. They only broke apart when routed.
Batalha de Austerlitz foi uma das maiores vitorias do Exercito Napoleonico.
watching this with my history teacher on my project made me relive Austerlitz thanks Ridley Scott 😃
THE HORROR
Scott got old and demented if he believed that he ever had any chance recording anything even close to accurate .He took a decade and tried to squeeze it into aa movie that was never really real in anything except in massive ego of Ridley Scott ...This movie is a master piece in how to completely fail in everything
Can we just be thankful that epic films like this are still being made? Billions are being spent on superheroes crap everyday and here we have a genius like Ridley sharing his vision on his own style.
Simply put no, we can't... You can't be thankful for a bad movie just because it exists, that's really really weird.
@@Delogrosdisagree
@@videogamesare1 Well thats just silly, not the disagreeing in and of itself but with the core concept, we should expect better then an expensive poop of a film
Genius?! 😂
Dude...it's an absolute steamer of a film. Good money, wasted. Ridley needs to retire and hand over the keys to someone that knows what they're doing.
Napoleon mumbles to his general : Send in the cavalry
Instantly cavalry rushes the frontline 800 meters across from Napoleon.
It is a piece of garbadge made by Garry Garbadgemen who happens to be studying garbadge at Cambridge university. I have never seen something as bad as this. I mean the audio doesn't even correspond with what we see. And it's supposed to be one of the biggest productions of 2023. Even Netflix can depict battles more accuratly.
@adamcohen4864 what do you mean ?
@adamcohen4864 I mean Napoléon Bonaparte is known to have been the Emperor of the French form 1804 to 1815 and to be the best general in history. He was born in 1769 and died in 1821. But you have Wikipedia for that kind of question...
@adamcohen4864 You are not making much sense,please improve your coherence and knowledge of the toppic.
@adamcohen4864 u are trolling right lmao
When you've dedicated your sets for Napolean being short instead of set and plot designed for Austerlitz, this is what you get.
This is what happens when you just focus on height and not skill
My God. Napoleon rolled over in his tomb when this hit the big screen. More than when Soult rolled up the enemy line on the Pratzen Heights.
Waterloo 1970 is better in my opinion. They might have bad things and some huge mistakes, but I can see Imperial Guards on action more than Napoleon 2023. Even in Waterloo scene of Napoleon 2023, I see no Guards in the Advance of the Imperial Guard
Waterloo (1970) was better than this shit
5:38 So easy to see a rubber bayonet.
hahaha
How I feel as a commander in a Roblox game.
Imagine your a random citizens walking through the snow and forest to get to your Village and you see this 6:11 what would your reaction will be?
Run
I love all the mountains with a big frozen lake while we have highest peak here like 300 meters above sea level and few fish ponds which are like 2-3 meters deep 🤣
In real life, Napoleon would probably have sat in a chair and had a drink while watching the show. In the middle of the battle of Austerliz and so confident of his victory, some testimonies report that he took a little nap on the ground. Like “I did my homework yesterday, now I’m sleeping!”
Savage 😅
That isn’t correct, once the pretzel heights where taken he immediately went up there in person to oversee the canons being fired on the lake, napoleon was famous for being involved in the fighting
I think you got austerlitz mixed up with wagram.
I wish we still wore hats like that.
The first few USA presidents probably did
Btw I I wish the traditional clothing of czechia, Hungary, Norway, Ukraine etc got attention too
i wished the world didn't modernize further and stayed like this.
@@JinKazama92 Be the change you want to see
@@JinKazama92 i dont agree, but i love nepoleonic era dressing . they are too epic and far better than modern crap clothings.
I refuse to watch this film. Really, the best film about Napoleon has to be WATERLOO 1971 with Rod Steiger. The reason for this is that the Russians made it and it had something like 20k actors in full historical garb with real horses and if you pull up scenes from that film it trumps anything done today because it has a realism to it that is more akin with what it probably actually looked like. Phoenix was totally miscast from what I have seen and the film is more in line with what Ridley thinks than what actually happened. It's a shame Ridley has no real knowledge of Napoleon.
Academy award winning acting. Joaquin Phoenix on the ridge, valiantly stating " cavalry from the west! Pierce their flanks!" .
Spellbinding
after having seen the movie, i can tell you that this is the only battle in which they properly showed how smart napoleon was
well the siege of toulon probably as well. otherwise your right
"My enemies are many... my equals are none."
This is for sure not the kind of landscape at Austerlitz. I drove along the historic battlefield in the Czech Republic on the motorway - it's flat with occasional hills
Много неточностей: тяжёлая кавалерия атакует рассыпным строем, линейная пехота передвигается бегом (тогда как даже скорость штыковой атаки - 120 шагов в минуту) и т.д. Но всё вместе, как ни странно, эффектно выглядит.
Ridley Scott has never been a writer. He is a director. A visionary director who focus on product design, camera movements and shots, cinematography, art direction, color, sound effects, editing, costume design, action...like battle scenes, choreography.... He doesn't give a fuck if the scene is historically inaccurate because what matters for him is the audiovisual experience. You have to understand that. And he can do it, because this movie is not a documentary. It's a movie. Most of the things in the movie are historically correct and the background is solid. That's the point. Then cinema is fiction. And you can add whatever you want. The goal is just to make it powerful and entertaining. And this movie manage perfectly to do that. David Scarpa wrote this screenplay and... That's the problem. The characters are not interesting, the dialogue, the story, plot twist and everything was a little bit cold and not perfect. But Ridley is Ridley and manages to create fucking great battle scenes... That's the point. The movie is good. It's not a masterpiece, but it is an enjoyable movie. Take a tea and enjoy it... Like a movie...
Im not an expert in napoleonic wars so can somebody briefly explain why people are saying how inaccurate this scene is
I don't know much either but apparently Austerlitz wasn't fought in the snow and there wasn't a frozen lake.
Overall the tactics the layout and the short duration of battle people are complaining about since it's definitely wrong. Such as the cannonballs on the ice Napolean in history exaggerated saying thousands died but realistically only a couple hundred died due to that play. The battle was miles long and over a full day as well. People are so upset about this however on my side I just love it for the drama effect despite it being depicted wrong. This battle is inaccurate in the movie to what it was in history but what I keep telling people is if you want to see a Documentary then go see a Documentary, this is a movie and this is drama of course there's gonna be a few wrong points, they're not gonna make one whole battle the entire movie when it's about Napolean and his story not a movie about one of Napoleans battles.
1. cold but no snow with a low lying fog that obscured napoleons main force from view. 2. had 150,000 men fighting on the battlefield with napoleon having less 3. napoleon weaken his right flank to lure the enemy to attack it so they would leave the heights in the middle of the 6-7 mile long front line, so that he could attack the heights and split the Russian/Austrian army in two 4. the Russian/Austrian commanders saw the weak right flank and planned to do exactly what napoleon wanted so they could break though it and encircle him from the south. 5. battle went how napoleon wanted leading the left flank of the enemy army having to retreat south across a frozen lake due to being encircled themselves by napoleon's right flank and the corps now occupying the heights, about 100 men were killed by cannonballs or drowning when the French tried to break the ice ;Union of Salvation 2019 movie shows a accurate depiction of how cannon balls affects ice.
3:43 Adam Sandler cameo!
Waterloo will ALWAYS be THE Napoleon film for me!
I thought that was just an ABBA song.
This is comfortably the worst portrayal of combat in this time period that I have ever seen, let alone conceived of. It's like Ridley Scott made it this wilfully awful for a bet.
The eternal Anglo strikes again
Napoleon must had been a truly great man if Anglos are still butthurt about him enough to keep trying to discredit him 200 years after
Well, Ridley Scott did portray Wellesley as a crusty and grizzled old man. I’ve heard people say that this movie is just anti history.
Very sad that it isn't historical.. But I am also a fan of historical fiction, as this may not be labeled as such, it's a let down... That said! This is a heartbreaking scene that manages to get the look down to the point of it simply being badass. Enjoy it for what it is, not what it could be. Not like they're gonna update the movie..
Keep in mind at what point in the battle this is. This is after napoleons destruction of their center. This scene is when they swung around to crush the austrian/russian left; where marshal Davout had held his ground. The portrayal isnt awful, but it has some holes unless time had passed between the quick flashing scenes. Where is davout? How is napoleon talking to his whole army? If ridley had just spent a little more time learning the history the scene could've been perfect.
Yeah and remove the trenches, it's not 1916
@potatomine6678 yea I don't know what's up with that
@@potatomine6678 US Civil war? aren't they the precursors that pioneered Trench Warfare?
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 If your attacking like napoleon is in this scene they are just in the way. trenches are defences or protection. remember that at the time they used line formations, if you use trenches your slowing down how quickly you can form up to attack
Napoleon is French, last I checked. Joaquin sounds like he's narrating a book report he did on Napoleon in high school. Could he not muster a French accent? British accent would've been acceptable.
the accent is the last thing i would complain about considering there are so much bigger flaws