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I felt robbed and cheated out of a reaction. Is that irrational? 😂 I started watching episode 11 reaction, but my heart wasn't in it... glad it was just an honest mistake.
That speech was amazing! The writing on this show outshines any SW material before it, and this episode is the pinnacle of that. I couldn't watch A New Hope without watching Rogue One before this, and now I have to watch this episode even before that. "I made my mind a sunless space. I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion." Absolutely Shakespearean.
@@thedrudgetick I'm really mad that Disney is going forward with the production of Season 2, during the writer's strike. Why take a show celebrated for its writing and continue to produce it, when none of your writers are there?
For me it is when he says "and when I looked down there was no ground beneath my feet" (or something like that), it feels so relatable the fact that you start something with a lot of energy, passion and dreams and you just keep pushing until at some point you can't stop no matter if that thing is destroying you, and the reasons of why you started it, while potentially still there, they don't matter anymore, it is about keep going because now others also depend on you, he actually eludes to this when he says "and the ego that started it all will never have recognition" (something along those lines)
@@prefon13 I am in no way downplaying the role writers can have being on-set but Tony Gilroy and Diego Luna has said the shooting script and the final product of Season 1 were the closest of any project they have worked on. Tony, and Lucasfilm, knew the strike was coming and prepared in advance with the directors/producers. The entire industry went thru hell in 2007/2008 because nobody knew what to expect but all the producers/directors involved were in Hollywood at that point and know the cost of not being prepared then. Hopefully the strike will end before shooting wraps in August but even if it does not, it's possible they can do re-shoots to fill in gaps. The show is stacked full of talented people top to bottom. I have faith and hope they will figure it out.
“I burn my life to make a sunrise I know I’ll never see” is an incredible line. The entire monologue shows how incredibly lacking in writing every other piece of Star Wars media rn really is. Mandalorian, Obi Wan, Boba Fett, and all the sequel movies do not even attempt at writing dialogue this meaningful.
Interesting. Because this is the Star Wars i've wanted since the early 80s. It's the ruthless empire feared when it first was shown in the 70s. I even repeatedly said to a friend "what i really want is Star Wars but with the tone of Jason Bourne." I mean i said it over and over for years. To the point where my friend ignored it. I watched the whole thing loved it. And then found out the creator Tony Gilroy was a writer on the Bourne Trilogy. Well no wonder i loved it. It's literally what i've been asking for for a decade.
"On program! Now!" "Tell me what to do now!" I love how Cassian almost has this touch of vengeful taunting at times. He really feels like someone beaten down by life, getting high off of fighting back.
"I burned my life to make a sunrise I know I'll never see" wasn't just applying to Luthen. Kino knew he was doomed from the moment he found out no one was going to be released. But he not only participated in the escape, he led it. In a series whose lead character is fated to die in the not-too-distant future, I love that the focus of the series has been on more characters who have helped build the Rebellion even though they will never see the liberation they are fighting for.
The speech even applies to Andor in Rogue one… He died not knowing if getting those death star plans even mattered at all. Leia barely managed to get away with the plans. In fact, she got captured right after. That monoluge is honestly the best writing we’ve seen so far in SW. It’s deep meaning applies to everyone who died in service to the rebellion.
That Kino couldn't swim was super thematic. The way Luthen say that he's sacreficing everything and that he is creating a sunrise that he'll never see is exactly what Kino does in that he helps people escape even if he cannot, because he can't swim. I mean, the inmates litrally uses the empires tools agianst them when escapeing, just like Luthen says he does. One of the best written episodes and pices of star wars media ever imo.
That "what did you sacrifice" scene is just absolutely brilliant. The dialogue, the acting, the whole reason why you cast Stellan Skarsgard in that role to begin with. This show MAN!
So glad to finally see you guys watch this episode. The fact that Kino (Andy) can't swim and thus knows he will never escape reshapes how you look at all of his actions. Also, Holden, figured you'd like this tidbit. Andy Serkis has said that his characters arc is about a crisis of faith. He BELIEVES there is an "afterlife" waiting for him out of prison if he does good, but when he knows he isn't getting out and loses that faith he changes.
Luthen’s monologue is by far my favorite part of this show. This episode is absolutely incredible. “I burn my life to make a sunrise I know I’ll never see,” is such an amazing line.
Andy Serkis's acting and speaking is so powerful looking backward, once you learn he couldn't swim. So the entire escape, he knew he was going to die bc he couldn't swim, yet he led the people for their escape
@cardiac19 agreed, I also think they might bring him back. Suppose I should have said, he assumed he was going to die. "One way out" involves swimming. As the viewer, we figured he decided to stop following prison orders and save his life by escaping, but in the end it appears he put his life in more danger to save others. Good arc for him.
I absolutely love Luthen's monologue at the end. To me this show is better than Mando season 1 and 2. I think this is the best Star Wars content Disney has ever produced.
This episode has two amazing speeches, but the one from Stellan Skarsgard (Luthen Rael) was nearly completely overshadowed by the one from Andy Serkis (Kino Loy). "I share my dreams with ghosts....I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them...I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see."
I don't think that Skarsgard's character is going to change in any way as we have seen it so far. Him making these decisions like sacrificing people, is truly necessary for the cause. In previous SW-installments we've known the rebels as the simply pure & good ones on a 2-dimensional axis. This series (and Rogue one has already started it) has brought in some grown-up reinterpretations of the rebels, which I for one at least absolutely welcome. Its just more real and beleivable.
Thank God!!! I thought you had troubles posting this one😅😅😅 This episode was the best of the whole show, that dialogue between Luthen and the imperial officer was amazing, his and Kino's monologue were quality writing.
Serkis' (Kino Loy) character took Skarsgard's (Luthen Rael) future words to the letter: "I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see." He knew from the start he wouldn't be able to make it out ("I'll assume I'm already dead."), but he did it anyways, for everyone else.
Andy Serkis' character knew there was no way but to swim - that's partly why he hesitated so much to riot and even during that speech. Luthen's speech (Skarsgaard) gave me chills.... doomed to use the tools of my enemy and all that.
Stellans speach is just a gem. It have me goosebumps. It was just a little beyond Andy's speech just before. So how often do you get 2 great monologues in the same episode?
When I watched thr first time I was still reeling after Kino's speech just smiling and they hit me with Luthens which completely knocked me off my chair lol. I was like wtf these writers flexing so hard you already got the Emmy for the episode lol 😆
The speech in the end by Luther is everything I wanted for Star Wars. Superb writing (Gilroy) and brilliant performance by Skarsgard. I just want to live in the world of Andor, is amazing !
Ooooh yes, more Andor! Yeh this episode was great.... that twist with Andy's character not being able to swim, just crazy (loved your reactions, btw) It was so cool seeing the prisoners rise up and take control. You're right, Holden, this is such different Star Wars material, I really appreciate it. Both Mandalorian and Andor are some of my fave Star Wars content. They've done such great work with both shows, really love it. Glad you guys are enjoying it too. :)
If you watch this again, as you see Kino (Serkis) struggle to accept that no one is getting out and that their sentences are made up, remember that he knows he can't swim. He knows that even if they were to take over the prison that they would have to swim out. He knows that "escape" for him is a death sentence. Serkis does such an amazing job showing how painful it is for him to grapple with that thought and then he finally explodes into a decision with "NO ONE IS GETTING OUT!" He's a brilliant actor.
Fantastic episode Luthens monologue at the end was amazing Stellan is killing it in this role . Bixs interrogation was so chilling and we dont even get to hear what causes Bix such distress , Adria Arjona sells that scene so well .
I'd forgotten that Kino's and Luthen's speeches were in the same episode. The writing in the series is top tier. I hope the writers get some recognition.
The body language of Mon, Tay, and Davo was interesting. Mon and Tay are sitting tense, upright, tightly pulled inward. Davo is lounging, leaning back, legs crossed, arm spread. He's in control of the conversation...and knows it. Davo thinks he's just gaining a connection into legitimacy and social status. He doesn't realize he's tying his family to the Rebellion. I've heard that Andy Serkis will be in Season 2, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll appear as Kino Loy. He's Andy Serkis, after all.
I love Kino's line after they get back to their cells, "I'm going to assume I'm already dead and take it from there." No confirmation of this, but I believe Kino knew then that the only way out of the prison was to swim away, meaning he was either going to die in prison, drown, or get killed by the empire for aiding in a prison riot.
Yup, he had to have known. After all, when Andor arrived in the prison, they got to see that it was surrounded by water on all sides. Must have been the same for Kino. It’s probably one of the main reasons that it took so long for him to be on board with the escape. The only «real» shot he had at getting out was the end of his sentence.. And then they were told that they would never get out. He was in denial because he had just lost his reason for even working so hard in the first place.
The end of Kino Loy's (Andy Serkis) character was so impactful to me. I was honestly kind of worked up lol. I think what makes it impactful is that we dont really know what happened. We experience it from Cassian's viewpoint almost. Imagine in that moment he gets pushed off into the water and that is the last time he see's someone that was so impactful for him. Not knowing what his fate actually was. And that's the reality of rebellion and war. People are there one minute and gone the next. Also that monologue by Stellan Skarsgard is just perfect.
Enjoyed the video, one point I had to address in your post-commentary: you mentioned Skarsgard's character (Luthen) as not being a "good rebel." While I understand the idea of seeing Leia and Mon Mothma and others as "righteous," one of the purposes of this show is to highlight an uncomfortable truth, which is, when running any rebellion, even one against something as evil as the Empire in Star Wars, you are inevitably going to have to make choices that are morally reprehensible for the sake of the greater cause. It's nice to think that you can violently resist authoritarianism whilst being noble and morally upright, but that's unfortunately just not how reality tends to work. Of course, this doesn't make Luthen a good man, not at all. Rather, in the context of this story, it makes him a necessary man. He is the kind of person willing to make the choices that will bring about a better future for the majority, through actions that condemns his own soul, so that others don't have to share in his damnation. The original movies show the Rebellion as altruistic to a fault, but it's important to keep in mind, you can't save everyone. Faced with the choice between sacrificing your own to move your cause against tyranny forward, or trying to preserve everyone even if it means sabotaging your movement, which one is truly the best option?
In a way I was so involved in this arc, I felt trapped myself, the stakes of that prison, the fear of letting yourself and your team down, but also the never ending struggle to fight for simply taste in your food, it’s just awful, but in a way amazing! When they finally get out it’s an escape for us watching as well! That’s my take atleast let me know how y’all feel!!
This show is so good, hands down the best live action Star Wars content out there! (i have not seen any of the animated series or movies so im not including them here) Before i watched this show i was never really hyped for it since i almost didn't remember Cassian from the Rouge One movie, but after watching episode 1 i was intrigued enough to immeadiatly watch episode 2 and then i was in!
I can't stress enough how much I LOVE this series! This is the writing that Star Wars has been missing!!! Love it love it love it The acting is award deserving too.. -Mon, having to smile and act regal with a noose around her neck. -Luthen, definitely force sensitive but forced to resort to empire's tactics to win -Andor, being squeeeeezed into becoming a rebel -Andy Serkis, I mean... he killed it, inspired 5,000 men and then crushed our souls
The prison arc is the best of Andor, and it’s representative of why this series is so much more impactful than anything else in Star Wars to me. One character dies… of a stroke. One main character (probably) dies simply because he can’t swim. Those are so banal, small things, and they would never happen in other Star Wars properties where everything is fixed by space magic. It makes this story and world so much more believable.
Idk if y’all caught it but the guy Skarsgard was talking to is an ISB officer. He’s the one that offered the ISB to investigate the star fighter “crash.” Him being in the ISB is more important than the 50 men and Kreegyr
I had hope when Jen said episode 9 was her favorite, considering it was dialogue heavy. But they don't even react to the spy reveal and have nothing to say about the best monologue in Star Wars from Luthen? I really feel like the whole show isn't really clicking for them, they're just kinda along for the ride and enjoying the obvious stuff. It's been a pretty lackluster reaction the whole way, IMO.
The heart of this episode was Kino, his leadership and his sacrifice. But we also see Andor as the master strategist. He knows how to create plans and set them in motion. And he knows that Kino is the best person to motivate the prisoners.
America was founded on a riot, so clearly there is a level of riot every American is comfortable with. Those who had a problem with the riots that led to American Independence were loyal to the status quo, the English crown. I love that this episode makes you ask yourself the question: Would I risk a riot, or would I have too much to lose?
Andy Serkis’ leadership and inability to see the entire escape to its uncertain end is being juxtaposed with Stellan Skarsgård’s problem of leading a rebellion that he may or may not survive to see. The Prison (and its flaws) can be seen as a microcosm of the Empire. Terrific writing. Great reaction.
2 major speeches by top tier actors, this is why you spend the money. "I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemies." Luthien sees only one way out for the rebellion, he doesn't count on farm boys with superpowers to save the day, and he shouldn't, in the end we have to beat back fascism in our own limited ways, and hope the numbers are large enough to do it. There are 2 great speeches coming up that address that, the need for unity in numbers. This show delivers more food for thought in a season than most do their entire run, and it comes at a great time. We need Focus.
Two absolute top tier banger monologues in ALL of Star Wars, within a single episode. This show is SO much better than it had any right to be. When this first got announced I remember almost doing a spit take and going “really? Are you kidding me? The backstory on the guy from Rogue One? WHY.”
I know we can have it both ways, this AND The Mandalorian but this show makes it incredibly hard to go back and watch Season 3 of Mando, BoBF, and the Obi-Wan show (which hurts the most if I'm being honest). I'm cautiously optimistic the Ahsoka show can get back to the highs of the first two seasons of Mando if Filoni is at his peak.
As a kid, growing up waiting for the original trilogy to come out. By the time the prequals came out I wanted something a bit more mature. I was at the opening night a little disappointed. Not so much now, I get it. The mainline films are for children (and big kids. 😊) But this is what I was hoping to see in '99. Star War for grown ups. My love of this universe has never died, but I sure as hell didn't expect it to get renewed by this show.
This prison arc has to be one of the single greatest pieces of Star Wars that came out, not just in the Disney Era but in the entirety of the franchise history
This episode is peak Star Wars. When all of these Disney+ shows were announced, this was the show I was least excited for. It’s amazing how wrong I was. I need more of this show, this writing, in other series.
I’ve seen some reactions to episode 10. The simping for the Empire because “some of these guys could be murderers” is hilarious. The obvious narrative in this series is that the Rebellion is growing, in large part by the Empire’s modus operandi, and dissidents (or, really, anyone around) are being thrown into slave labor camps to build the Death Star (the main tool used to terrify the galaxy along with solidifying their control throughout). Are people not getting that the Emperor and Empire are bad?🤔
You gotta see the video of people cosplaying the prisoners in this ep shouting one way out at Star Wars celebration this year and all the times they yelled one way out for Andy serkis, it was Amazing
If a couple of years ago you had told me that Andy Serkis, the master of motion capture acting would have two roles in this franchise, one in major motion picture events playing a giant imposing lord of evil who is pulling the strings behind a vast power, and the other as a secondary character in a streaming series for minimal episodes playing a prisoner with no real discerning background traits…. And that the latter role would be the one that becomes one of the most memorable performances the franchise ever saw… I would have said you were insane… yet here we are
One thing to keep in mind: Violent criminals were sent to other prisons. The ones that went here first were all for minor infractions that had extended sentences, and a Lot of them were inocent from even that, as Andor was. The Empire couldnt send prisioners that wouldnt comply and obey the program to one of their most important forced labor camps.
What's even more heartbreaking about Kino is he must have known all along he would be stuck on that ledge, yet he set the jailbreak in motion for the sake of the others, in effect sacrificing himself.
I love that they show that the rebellion isn’t all neat and clean. They are the good guys but that doesn’t mean they are immune to the cold math of the few for the many.
The idea of the Rebellion having to get their hands dirty was one of my favourite parts of Rogue One, and I'm so glad we got a show that really dives into that idea and explores it in much more detail
The writing in this episode is only eclipsed by the acting by Serkis and Skarsgard. It is so. good. Those two speeches highlight the best and worst of the rebellion, and its the same for both of them. Both men who sacrifice themselves for the greater good knowing they’re not going to reap the rewards of their efforts. I love the fact that both men are fully aware that they’re doomed in their own ways but keep pushing on regardless, but there they separate and show the best and worst of the rebellion. Luthen says it himself, adopting the tactics of his enemy to defeat them he’s forced to be the very thing he’s fighting against and sacrificing others for his cause, but Kino sacrifices himself to help those he cares about. Kino sacrifices his life or his freedom, but Luthen sacrifices his soul. Ultimately, though, the rebellion needs both types of men to succeed, so they’re two sides of the same coin.
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Whoops, I accidentally posted episode 11 today instead of this one! Episodes 11 and 12 are both available on Patreon early for those of you who want to watch them before anyone else. To those who were fast enough to click and watch episode 11...impressive...most impressive.
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I thought I lost a week somehow...
You made me question my reality
Watched the whole thing before you fixed it😅 Are you not impressed?😅😅 I'll have to delete my comment asking about this episode next week🤣
I felt robbed and cheated out of a reaction. Is that irrational? 😂
I started watching episode 11 reaction, but my heart wasn't in it... glad it was just an honest mistake.
Saw it posted but I didn’t watch it lol. I figured you’d fix it.
"I share my dreams with ghosts" is one of the most haunting lines in all of Star Wars. Andor is everything I ever wanted for the franchise.
That speech was amazing! The writing on this show outshines any SW material before it, and this episode is the pinnacle of that. I couldn't watch A New Hope without watching Rogue One before this, and now I have to watch this episode even before that.
"I made my mind a sunless space. I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion."
Absolutely Shakespearean.
@@thedrudgetick I'm really mad that Disney is going forward with the production of Season 2, during the writer's strike. Why take a show celebrated for its writing and continue to produce it, when none of your writers are there?
For me it is when he says "and when I looked down there was no ground beneath my feet" (or something like that), it feels so relatable the fact that you start something with a lot of energy, passion and dreams and you just keep pushing until at some point you can't stop no matter if that thing is destroying you, and the reasons of why you started it, while potentially still there, they don't matter anymore, it is about keep going because now others also depend on you, he actually eludes to this when he says "and the ego that started it all will never have recognition" (something along those lines)
@@prefon13 I am in no way downplaying the role writers can have being on-set but Tony Gilroy and Diego Luna has said the shooting script and the final product of Season 1 were the closest of any project they have worked on. Tony, and Lucasfilm, knew the strike was coming and prepared in advance with the directors/producers. The entire industry went thru hell in 2007/2008 because nobody knew what to expect but all the producers/directors involved were in Hollywood at that point and know the cost of not being prepared then. Hopefully the strike will end before shooting wraps in August but even if it does not, it's possible they can do re-shoots to fill in gaps. The show is stacked full of talented people top to bottom. I have faith and hope they will figure it out.
@@prefon13 100% AGREE!!!!! It's beyond frustrating!
Luthen's "What have I sacrificed?" monologue is Chef's Kiss writing by Beau Willimon brilliantly acted by Stellan Skarsgard!
“I burn my life to make a sunrise I know I’ll never see” is an incredible line. The entire monologue shows how incredibly lacking in writing every other piece of Star Wars media rn really is. Mandalorian, Obi Wan, Boba Fett, and all the sequel movies do not even attempt at writing dialogue this meaningful.
and they had zero reaction to it.. didn't even mention it afterwards lol
@@cgrod4772 Lost opportunity by them for sure. Haha.
Brilliant acting by Robert Emms too tbh
The "What do I sacrifice? EVERYTHING!" monologue is so fantastic. This is the Star Wars that I didn't realize I had been waiting for this whole time.
Interesting. Because this is the Star Wars i've wanted since the early 80s. It's the ruthless empire feared when it first was shown in the 70s. I even repeatedly said to a friend "what i really want is Star Wars but with the tone of Jason Bourne." I mean i said it over and over for years. To the point where my friend ignored it. I watched the whole thing loved it. And then found out the creator Tony Gilroy was a writer on the Bourne Trilogy. Well no wonder i loved it. It's literally what i've been asking for for a decade.
"On program! Now!"
"Tell me what to do now!"
I love how Cassian almost has this touch of vengeful taunting at times. He really feels like someone beaten down by life, getting high off of fighting back.
"I burned my life to make a sunrise I know I'll never see" wasn't just applying to Luthen. Kino knew he was doomed from the moment he found out no one was going to be released. But he not only participated in the escape, he led it. In a series whose lead character is fated to die in the not-too-distant future, I love that the focus of the series has been on more characters who have helped build the Rebellion even though they will never see the liberation they are fighting for.
Yes, Luthern's speech was for Kino as well.
The speech even applies to Andor in Rogue one…
He died not knowing if getting those death star plans even mattered at all.
Leia barely managed to get away with the plans. In fact, she got captured right after.
That monoluge is honestly the best writing we’ve seen so far in SW. It’s deep meaning applies to everyone who died in service to the rebellion.
That Kino couldn't swim was super thematic. The way Luthen say that he's sacreficing everything and that he is creating a sunrise that he'll never see is exactly what Kino does in that he helps people escape even if he cannot, because he can't swim. I mean, the inmates litrally uses the empires tools agianst them when escapeing, just like Luthen says he does.
One of the best written episodes and pices of star wars media ever imo.
Exactly
It's like Poetry it Rhymes
That "what did you sacrifice" scene is just absolutely brilliant. The dialogue, the acting, the whole reason why you cast Stellan Skarsgard in that role to begin with. This show MAN!
the best part is Luthen luring Lonnie into an area specifically so it would echo in a really cool way when he yelled "Everything!"
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So glad to finally see you guys watch this episode. The fact that Kino (Andy) can't swim and thus knows he will never escape reshapes how you look at all of his actions.
Also, Holden, figured you'd like this tidbit. Andy Serkis has said that his characters arc is about a crisis of faith. He BELIEVES there is an "afterlife" waiting for him out of prison if he does good, but when he knows he isn't getting out and loses that faith he changes.
"I burn my life to make a sunrise I'll never see".... that whole speech will be taught in acting classes for years.
Glad you guys are enjoying it! The slow burn is paying off!
Andy couldnt swim and therefore he couldnt leave. He stayed and became Supreme Leader Snoke instead hahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Best fan theory I've heard in a long time! Love it Vode!
Luthen’s monologue is by far my favorite part of this show. This episode is absolutely incredible. “I burn my life to make a sunrise I know I’ll never see,” is such an amazing line.
Stellan and Andy, man. Damn. Even having watched this when it aired and replayed it several times, both of their monologue never lost it's brilliance.
Andy Serkis's acting and speaking is so powerful looking backward, once you learn he couldn't swim. So the entire escape, he knew he was going to die bc he couldn't swim, yet he led the people for their escape
I don't think he is dead. They brought him out on stage with the rest of the cast at Celebration.
@cardiac19 agreed, I also think they might bring him back. Suppose I should have said, he assumed he was going to die. "One way out" involves swimming. As the viewer, we figured he decided to stop following prison orders and save his life by escaping, but in the end it appears he put his life in more danger to save others. Good arc for him.
@@jeffjeezy7170 Great arc. Assuming he will be back then I really look forward to Kino returning.
Andy is confirmed to return.
I absolutely love Luthen's monologue at the end. To me this show is better than Mando season 1 and 2. I think this is the best Star Wars content Disney has ever produced.
i totally agree.
absolutely agree, along with Rouge One of course
Luthens monologue is the best piece of writing in Star Wars ever, no contest.
Well you have this "I am your father" part
The monologs in this show are next level. I go back and just rewatch them sometimes.
Skarsgard's speech in this episode is an all-time great piece of writing
This episode has two amazing speeches, but the one from Stellan Skarsgard (Luthen Rael) was nearly completely overshadowed by the one from Andy Serkis (Kino Loy).
"I share my dreams with ghosts....I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them...I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see."
Do you mean Luthen overshadowed Kino?
@@polarizedphoenix187 neither takes anything from the other, and there is still Marva’s to go. A triple delight for the actors and the viewers.
I don't think that Skarsgard's character is going to change in any way as we have seen it so far. Him making these decisions like sacrificing people, is truly necessary for the cause. In previous SW-installments we've known the rebels as the simply pure & good ones on a 2-dimensional axis. This series (and Rogue one has already started it) has brought in some grown-up reinterpretations of the rebels, which I for one at least absolutely welcome. Its just more real and beleivable.
Thank God!!! I thought you had troubles posting this one😅😅😅
This episode was the best of the whole show, that dialogue between Luthen and the imperial officer was amazing, his and Kino's monologue were quality writing.
There's the right one! Can't wait to see your reaction for "The Scene"
Serkis' (Kino Loy) character took Skarsgard's (Luthen Rael) future words to the letter: "I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see." He knew from the start he wouldn't be able to make it out ("I'll assume I'm already dead."), but he did it anyways, for everyone else.
I out loud gasped when he said "I can't swim" it was so heartbreaking after that speech he gave 😢
"and what do I sacrifice? Everything." That's some of the best acting and writing in any Star Wars project.. hands down.
Andy Serkis' character knew there was no way but to swim - that's partly why he hesitated so much to riot and even during that speech.
Luthen's speech (Skarsgaard) gave me chills.... doomed to use the tools of my enemy and all that.
Stellans speach is just a gem. It have me goosebumps. It was just a little beyond Andy's speech just before. So how often do you get 2 great monologues in the same episode?
When I watched thr first time I was still reeling after Kino's speech just smiling and they hit me with Luthens which completely knocked me off my chair lol. I was like wtf these writers flexing so hard you already got the Emmy for the episode lol 😆
The speech in the end by Luther is everything I wanted for Star Wars. Superb writing (Gilroy) and brilliant performance by Skarsgard. I just want to live in the world of Andor, is amazing !
Ooooh yes, more Andor! Yeh this episode was great.... that twist with Andy's character not being able to swim, just crazy (loved your reactions, btw)
It was so cool seeing the prisoners rise up and take control.
You're right, Holden, this is such different Star Wars material, I really appreciate it. Both Mandalorian and Andor are some of my fave Star Wars content. They've done such great work with both shows, really love it.
Glad you guys are enjoying it too. :)
One way out!
Gets me every time🥲
unless I have to swim..then I don't get out..
@@brianegendorf2023 Andy Serkis was recently confirmed to appear in Season 2
One way out
This is the way
I have spoken
We've been blessed with such lines in recent yrs that means as much as "May the Force be with you"
Andy Serkis quietly gave an award worthy performance in this show. What a fantastic actor.
This is totally Star Wars for adults. And as an adult who has been a fan of Star Wars since I was 6, I totally love it!
Just watched episode 9 and couldn't wait to see episode 10 afterwards haha. Worth becoming a Patron for sure! Glad you are enjoying it :)
Same 😂
If you watch this again, as you see Kino (Serkis) struggle to accept that no one is getting out and that their sentences are made up, remember that he knows he can't swim. He knows that even if they were to take over the prison that they would have to swim out. He knows that "escape" for him is a death sentence.
Serkis does such an amazing job showing how painful it is for him to grapple with that thought and then he finally explodes into a decision with "NO ONE IS GETTING OUT!" He's a brilliant actor.
Yes! This is what Luthern said: Kino is working for a sunrise he knows he will never see.
Fantastic episode Luthens monologue at the end was amazing Stellan is killing it in this role . Bixs interrogation was so chilling and we dont even get to hear what causes Bix such distress , Adria Arjona sells that scene so well .
I love the risk they took with this show, being so story & dialogue heavy.
I'd forgotten that Kino's and Luthen's speeches were in the same episode.
The writing in the series is top tier. I hope the writers get some recognition.
You should support the strike to help them get paid better
One of if not THE best monologues in Star Wars history.
Two of the best monologues in all of star wars.
The body language of Mon, Tay, and Davo was interesting. Mon and Tay are sitting tense, upright, tightly pulled inward. Davo is lounging, leaning back, legs crossed, arm spread. He's in control of the conversation...and knows it. Davo thinks he's just gaining a connection into legitimacy and social status. He doesn't realize he's tying his family to the Rebellion.
I've heard that Andy Serkis will be in Season 2, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll appear as Kino Loy. He's Andy Serkis, after all.
I love Kino's line after they get back to their cells, "I'm going to assume I'm already dead and take it from there." No confirmation of this, but I believe Kino knew then that the only way out of the prison was to swim away, meaning he was either going to die in prison, drown, or get killed by the empire for aiding in a prison riot.
Yup, he had to have known. After all, when Andor arrived in the prison, they got to see that it was surrounded by water on all sides. Must have been the same for Kino.
It’s probably one of the main reasons that it took so long for him to be on board with the escape. The only «real» shot he had at getting out was the end of his sentence..
And then they were told that they would never get out. He was in denial because he had just lost his reason for even working so hard in the first place.
This is one of the greatest episodes of TV I've ever seen.
The end of Kino Loy's (Andy Serkis) character was so impactful to me. I was honestly kind of worked up lol. I think what makes it impactful is that we dont really know what happened. We experience it from Cassian's viewpoint almost. Imagine in that moment he gets pushed off into the water and that is the last time he see's someone that was so impactful for him. Not knowing what his fate actually was. And that's the reality of rebellion and war. People are there one minute and gone the next.
Also that monologue by Stellan Skarsgard is just perfect.
Two of the best dialogue performances in all of Star Wars in one episode…damn this episode slaps!
Enjoyed the video, one point I had to address in your post-commentary: you mentioned Skarsgard's character (Luthen) as not being a "good rebel." While I understand the idea of seeing Leia and Mon Mothma and others as "righteous," one of the purposes of this show is to highlight an uncomfortable truth, which is, when running any rebellion, even one against something as evil as the Empire in Star Wars, you are inevitably going to have to make choices that are morally reprehensible for the sake of the greater cause.
It's nice to think that you can violently resist authoritarianism whilst being noble and morally upright, but that's unfortunately just not how reality tends to work. Of course, this doesn't make Luthen a good man, not at all. Rather, in the context of this story, it makes him a necessary man. He is the kind of person willing to make the choices that will bring about a better future for the majority, through actions that condemns his own soul, so that others don't have to share in his damnation.
The original movies show the Rebellion as altruistic to a fault, but it's important to keep in mind, you can't save everyone. Faced with the choice between sacrificing your own to move your cause against tyranny forward, or trying to preserve everyone even if it means sabotaging your movement, which one is truly the best option?
THIS is peak Star Wars.
Stellan Skarsgard's monologue... bruh
This was my second favorite episode of the season. The two speeches were so well written and so well acted. Fantastic.
That was my favorite episode of the series. The final arc is great too, but that episode had it all.
In a way I was so involved in this arc, I felt trapped myself, the stakes of that prison, the fear of letting yourself and your team down, but also the never ending struggle to fight for simply taste in your food, it’s just awful, but in a way amazing! When they finally get out it’s an escape for us watching as well! That’s my take atleast let me know how y’all feel!!
I love how we got the execution of two amazing plot devices in this show: a heist and a prison-break.
Power doesn’t panic
This show is so good, hands down the best live action Star Wars content out there! (i have not seen any of the animated series or movies so im not including them here)
Before i watched this show i was never really hyped for it since i almost didn't remember Cassian from the Rouge One movie, but after watching episode 1 i was intrigued enough to immeadiatly watch episode 2 and then i was in!
Every word spoken has layers and layers of significance, not only to the characters speaking them, but to the overall story of Star Wars.
I can't stress enough how much I LOVE this series! This is the writing that Star Wars has been missing!!!
Love it love it love it
The acting is award deserving too..
-Mon, having to smile and act regal with a noose around her neck.
-Luthen, definitely force sensitive but forced to resort to empire's tactics to win
-Andor, being squeeeeezed into becoming a rebel
-Andy Serkis, I mean... he killed it, inspired 5,000 men and then crushed our souls
The speech given over the intercom in the prison gives me chills every time
The prison arc is the best of Andor, and it’s representative of why this series is so much more impactful than anything else in Star Wars to me. One character dies… of a stroke. One main character (probably) dies simply because he can’t swim. Those are so banal, small things, and they would never happen in other Star Wars properties where everything is fixed by space magic. It makes this story and world so much more believable.
Idk if y’all caught it but the guy Skarsgard was talking to is an ISB officer. He’s the one that offered the ISB to investigate the star fighter “crash.” Him being in the ISB is more important than the 50 men and Kreegyr
I had hope when Jen said episode 9 was her favorite, considering it was dialogue heavy. But they don't even react to the spy reveal and have nothing to say about the best monologue in Star Wars from Luthen? I really feel like the whole show isn't really clicking for them, they're just kinda along for the ride and enjoying the obvious stuff. It's been a pretty lackluster reaction the whole way, IMO.
The heart of this episode was Kino, his leadership and his sacrifice. But we also see Andor as the master strategist. He knows how to create plans and set them in motion. And he knows that Kino is the best person to motivate the prisoners.
Best episode of the whole season in my humble opinion 😄
Two of the best speeches in Star Wars history and, per usual, they just sit there with unimpressed looks on their faces
America was founded on a riot, so clearly there is a level of riot every American is comfortable with. Those who had a problem with the riots that led to American Independence were loyal to the status quo, the English crown. I love that this episode makes you ask yourself the question: Would I risk a riot, or would I have too much to lose?
Andy Serkis’ leadership and inability to see the entire escape to its uncertain end is being juxtaposed with Stellan Skarsgård’s problem of leading a rebellion that he may or may not survive to see. The Prison (and its flaws) can be seen as a microcosm of the Empire. Terrific writing. Great reaction.
2 major speeches by top tier actors, this is why you spend the money. "I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemies." Luthien sees only one way out for the rebellion, he doesn't count on farm boys with superpowers to save the day, and he shouldn't, in the end we have to beat back fascism in our own limited ways, and hope the numbers are large enough to do it. There are 2 great speeches coming up that address that, the need for unity in numbers. This show delivers more food for thought in a season than most do their entire run, and it comes at a great time. We need Focus.
Two absolute top tier banger monologues in ALL of Star Wars, within a single episode. This show is SO much better than it had any right to be. When this first got announced I remember almost doing a spit take and going “really? Are you kidding me? The backstory on the guy from Rogue One? WHY.”
I know we can have it both ways, this AND The Mandalorian but this show makes it incredibly hard to go back and watch Season 3 of Mando, BoBF, and the Obi-Wan show (which hurts the most if I'm being honest). I'm cautiously optimistic the Ahsoka show can get back to the highs of the first two seasons of Mando if Filoni is at his peak.
two of the best monologues in the series too, i love this show
We need these videos more often the last few episodes are insane and I can't wait.
We’ve seen these vids evolve from my gf watches to my wife watches. Cant wait for ‘my baby-momma’ watches in the future haha
Can't wait for episode 11 again
2:45 - It's not just that they aren't monitoring them, they don't have enough staff to monitor them.
As a kid, growing up waiting for the original trilogy to come out. By the time the prequals came out I wanted something a bit more mature. I was at the opening night a little disappointed.
Not so much now, I get it. The mainline films are for children (and big kids. 😊)
But this is what I was hoping to see in '99. Star War for grown ups.
My love of this universe has never died, but I sure as hell didn't expect it to get renewed by this show.
amazing niether of you commented on Luthens amazing monologue
This prison arc has to be one of the single greatest pieces of Star Wars that came out, not just in the Disney Era but in the entirety of the franchise history
This episode is peak Star Wars. When all of these Disney+ shows were announced, this was the show I was least excited for. It’s amazing how wrong I was. I need more of this show, this writing, in other series.
I dont know who has a better monolog... is it Serkis or Skarsgaard. They are both brilliantly delivered
That monologue, goosebumps every time
I’ve seen some reactions to episode 10. The simping for the Empire because “some of these guys could be murderers” is hilarious. The obvious narrative in this series is that the Rebellion is growing, in large part by the Empire’s modus operandi, and dissidents (or, really, anyone around) are being thrown into slave labor camps to build the Death Star (the main tool used to terrify the galaxy along with solidifying their control throughout). Are people not getting that the Emperor and Empire are bad?🤔
They honestly seem like secret white supremacists 💀
This is my favorite episode of the entire season because it features one of the best jailbreaks ever. Time to bust outta this joint!
One of the best episodes🥲
Also, Andy Serkis was recently confirmed to appear in Season 2😇
When y’all said “ get him some floaties!” I said floties?? Then Holden said “ floaties”. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 right
You gotta see the video of people cosplaying the prisoners in this ep shouting one way out at Star Wars celebration this year and all the times they yelled one way out for Andy serkis, it was Amazing
If a couple of years ago you had told me that Andy Serkis, the master of motion capture acting would have two roles in this franchise, one in major motion picture events playing a giant imposing lord of evil who is pulling the strings behind a vast power, and the other as a secondary character in a streaming series for minimal episodes playing a prisoner with no real discerning background traits…. And that the latter role would be the one that becomes one of the most memorable performances the franchise ever saw… I would have said you were insane… yet here we are
One. Way. Out.
Star Wars has never been better than this...
We made it together!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 wish I had received this reaction on my bday on Saturday 😢
At the time i watched and now.. this is top tier period not just SW. Great reaction ❤
This episode exhibits 1) why they hired Andy Serkis and 2) why they hired Stellan Skarsgard. Damn pitch perfect performances.
One thing to keep in mind: Violent criminals were sent to other prisons. The ones that went here first were all for minor infractions that had extended sentences, and a Lot of them were inocent from even that, as Andor was.
The Empire couldnt send prisioners that wouldnt comply and obey the program to one of their most important forced labor camps.
4:20 "...the daughter!!..." "...there it is.." lol
This was one of the greatest TV episodes i have ever watched last year...
honestly still my fav episode i ever reacted too!
What's even more heartbreaking about Kino is he must have known all along he would be stuck on that ledge, yet he set the jailbreak in motion for the sake of the others, in effect sacrificing himself.
I love that they show that the rebellion isn’t all neat and clean. They are the good guys but that doesn’t mean they are immune to the cold math of the few for the many.
The idea of the Rebellion having to get their hands dirty was one of my favourite parts of Rogue One, and I'm so glad we got a show that really dives into that idea and explores it in much more detail
ONE WAY OUT!!!
The writing in this episode is only eclipsed by the acting by Serkis and Skarsgard. It is so. good. Those two speeches highlight the best and worst of the rebellion, and its the same for both of them. Both men who sacrifice themselves for the greater good knowing they’re not going to reap the rewards of their efforts. I love the fact that both men are fully aware that they’re doomed in their own ways but keep pushing on regardless, but there they separate and show the best and worst of the rebellion. Luthen says it himself, adopting the tactics of his enemy to defeat them he’s forced to be the very thing he’s fighting against and sacrificing others for his cause, but Kino sacrifices himself to help those he cares about. Kino sacrifices his life or his freedom, but Luthen sacrifices his soul. Ultimately, though, the rebellion needs both types of men to succeed, so they’re two sides of the same coin.
This episode is sooooooo goooood!!! 😭
Klaya is so underrated. I'd like to know more about her.
Climb! Like in Rogue, K2 to Cassian. A running theme in Andor through Rogue 1