"Of course I still love you," "Just read the instructions," " A short fall of gravitas." Come on Elon. Surely you can come up with something better than "Pad A" and "Pad B."
9:05 The graphic at this moment of the video incorrectly highlights "BOOSTER PROP LOAD(t)" when Felix is discussing Ship propellant differences. Specifically, the highlight should be on the row below, "SHIP PROP LOAD (t)".
Something odd just happened when I opened this video. An AI like audio translation into German was activated and I thought I am looking at a rip off channel. Only after checking the options under the Settings menu of the video did I noticed a entry called Audiotrack. Is this new? This crap was never activated before. Also, does anyone know how i can completely shut off subtitles? I already turned these off in my general preferences, but they still get activated on some videos - like with this one.
It's new to me as well. It also got all te titles for the other languages wrong. This is a feature that must have been introduced by RUclips. They did not notify me about this.
Got double check numbers before publishing. 3300 to 3650 fuel capacity is a 10ish% increase, not 25 And from all the other sources I’ve seen block 2 is 1 ring taller than block 1.
Not thrilled with the header tank(s). It LOOKS like it chews up significant volume of the starship payload capacity and makes the clamshell opening of the starship LOOK impossible. Maybe I am mistaken but it seems like the majority of typical paying customer payloads will not fit through the "pez" dispenser opening. Since one HAS to assume that SpaceX is building this to actually make money, you would think they might have unveiled a variant that actually can deploy large satellites or Dream Chaser. Just a thought.
Blue Origin is an older company than SpaceX. They still haven't made orbit while Falcon just celebrated 400 successful launches. Starship is their long term platform. Before anyone else reaches enough scale to begin competing with Falcon 9/Heavy. It takes 12+ launches per year to make reusable a good business case. Hence why Arriane 6 and ULA remain disposable.
Hi Felix, i dont know if you have covered this but the flatter Dome, seems simpler than the Blue Origin Hex pattern version which Jeff B spoke about in detail on his recent tour. To me Space X must be saving a fortune on materials and cost, and producing a simpler design, is the penalty weight?? Thanks again for your absolutely brilliant ( Janet and John - as we english say( for the none technical) updates.
Blue Origin seems to have inherited ULA's methodology: take a piece of raw metal, then mill away 85-90% of it to get what you really want. IMHO, a very expensive and time consuming practice. As opposed to taking a sheet of stainless, bend it into a circle, weld the seam, then weld multiple rings together end-to-end.
they did however land the first rocket that reached space. they have been a space tourism company for years, and appear to be the only successful one at that. virgin galactic is embroiled in a lot of difficulties, hard to call it a successful company. new shepherd flies with passengers regularly and is fully reusable. quite an accomplishment. they have only recently pivoted to orbital flight and announced the new glenn roughly when starship was announced. i think about a year before. if it flies this year which is a big if, it would be pretty much on par with starship development. the Be4 is already flight proven, and put up quite a performance on Vulcan's most recent flight
@@mattkingston6157 Define space. If Khaman line, not yet. Yes, they went to vacuum and back. Only Space X's tourism has orbited. I look forward to progress.
Something to remember on the Starship HLS, it will be MUCH lighter in dry mass than a regular starship. No fins, no heat shield, and likely a different engine configuration. It doesn't need three sea level raptors, they might go with a cluster of vac-raps and all gimbled.
At time 9:12, you marked out the wrong fuel status - you should have boxed in the ship figures, not the booster figures. Never mind though - still a great update.
It’s fascinating to see how regulatory challenges come into play for both SpaceX and Blue Origin. Innovations aside, these compliance hurdles remind us that space isn’t just about engineering but policy as well. A crucial insight many might overlook!
Worth noting Booster 12 had Raptors up to at least number 359 according to the pictures and there are over 500 Raptor 2s waiting to be used so I don't expect them to switch over to Raptor3 for awhile.
I still think there are newer Star ships once the test campaign winds down. I can see a special version of ship as the in orbit fuel depot, as it doesn’t need a full load as well as any cargo space. How about a new optical telescope which is pushed to a higher orbit by a space tug vehicle.
On landing on the uneven surface of the moon etc, I wondered about the use of lander/airbag systems, like the ones used to land on mars, but rather than impact protection you could inflate a rigid set around the base of the starship and then a program could auto adjust inflation at different points to amend vertical angle nearly instantly to ensure no tip over, I doubt that would work on Mars but on the moon the low gravity would probably allow for it.
The America hating, liberal government agency termites gotta eat too...and get well paid, work from home, have zero accountability, and spew worthless red tape, and do nothing productive. But they vote for the power mad democrats, so whatever.
The ultimate interstellar starship would have a special notch in the front end of it so that you could send a falcon heavy from space after liftoff. That third stage is going to get you where you need to be at a high velocity. And fill the starship completely up with fuel. See how fast you can get something going right out of the way. And definitely send it up the meteor shower
It's amazing what a setback it can be to take your foot off the gas. Manned missions to the moon in the 60s, and then entropy. Now 6 decades later starting from scratch with new people, tech, & manufacturing ramp up. Imagine if the transition had been continuous. "Always be thrusting."
HI FELIX... I have a questions about the Raptor engines: Once Raptor 3 is standard will the raptor 2 and 1 engines be retrofitted into Raptor 3 engines? And if that is not doable than what happens to all the old Raptor 2 and 1 engines? They must have build quite a few of them already.
Felix, I love the videos, but going on and on about channel metrics every… single… video… gets really, really old. Maybe you could mix it up a bit, find one or two other ways of saying it or something? Thanks for all the work you guys do on this! I hit like on every video. 😊
The same issue was recognized in cargo aircraft decades ago. A famous example is when USAF modified its entire fleet of C-141's by lengthening the fuselage. The planes were constantly getting 'cubed out' (the cargo space was full) with unused weight lifting capacity.
The reinforcement of the chopsticks was also needed due to a larger way more powerful starship than the original. This isn't a deficiency or design flaw to repair but an improvement to match all the thrust and payload improvements.
Well, I dunno about that. The chopsticks neither lift nor hold down the rocket opposing the rocket thrust. The chopsticks only deal with the (nearly) empty rocket.
Totally broken audio when watching on RUclips-Roku. Auto translated into other language with no way to disable it. Translations do not have an option for English either. Had to switch over to my phone to watch.
RUclips's roll out of this might not be perfect. We're working to improve over RUclips's own work right now. Roku might want to update it's software as well.
Maybe the Block 2 propellant tank may have been increased in size for test purposes only. This test may be for a full orbit and then land or catch back at base therefore needing more propellant. The much taller Block 3 Starship will be the one with a much larger propellant capacity ready for missions.
Amazing feats already achieved and it seems other major ones just on the horizon but it looks like tons of work is ahead to be done. Some of what spacex are (and will be) doing are stand-alone industries and just imagining the scale of what it will take to get just living on the moon working at scale starts to stretch my imagination. Still i imagine what's required for Mars is some factors more of what we establish works for the moon. SUPER EXCITING. Godspeed to all parties involved 🙌🏾
Nah, we aren't going to see starship catch attempts until the second tower is capable of catching. It's impossible to catch both super heavy and ship in rapid succession on the same tower with the current design. Aside from the fact there's no reason to, given that most ships will need to go back to a payload integration facility. The obvious exception is, of course, tankers, but I doubt we'll see a ship return to flight with 0 refurbishment for a year or more, at least. Rapid reuse of the booster is the real key to this systems success. The ability to launch, catch the booster, roll another tanker in place, stack, and go again is key.
Flame diverters should use heat tiles. Would be a great way to test if your tiles can take the heat and the pressure, better then a blow torch as well!
I could be very wrong but I’m pretty sure the engines get hotter than the re entry temps, all the tiles would likely turn to dust if they got blasted with 33 Raptors
The exhaust from engines is very different from air: different composition, temperature, velocity, and shockwave pattern. The tiles would shatter just from variable shockwaves passing through them. (A common misconception is that exhaust is very hot, whereas it is not very hot but very FAST, ~10 times the speed of sound - because rocket engines by design convert heat into the motion of the gas)
I know I keep saying this, but it just makes ZERO sense for anyone in the government to tell the engineers literally inventing cutting edge space technology how to do anything.
well we all saw how much fuel the booster had left after getting caught, that was quite a safe margin, maybe they want to do the same in preparation for a ship catch , and only after getting things tuned in they will risk running to lower fuel levels after landing, much like falcon 9 , for that one they just need enough fuel to burn for x amount of seconds and that's it, it either lands or explodes , there is no hovering and correcting it. On the other hand booster and ship both can hover and a tiny bit of extra fuel goes a long way in case of a missed approach. to either try again or just abort to a safe distance from GSE
I say, forget artimous. Launch Starship. Refuel it. Launch crew in Falcon 9. Rendezvous and transfer to Starship. Conduct Moon mission. Return to earth orbit, dock with refueller, dock Dragon. Return crew to earth. Refuel Starship
You know it would make more sense to build a interplanetary ship in space, have astronauts live on it in orbit around earth verifying it works and what things may need work before sending it unmanned to orbit mars. They could send it with a starship attached so that when people go to mars they have a vehicle in space with supplies and also a vehicle on mars with supplies. Perhaps not a completely necessary stepping stone but it does provide contingency and would be a goal in the future anyways
Since most power plants boil water to turn a turbine would it be possible/viable to use the excess heat from starship launches or booster tests to generate the electricity ?
@@jamesengland7461 Well the images of the flame diverter looked like a heat exchanger so the questions are : is this the case and are those few seconds enough to make the extra effort viable?
Totaly could do that, but it would be a short electrical production and not a good one for the powergrid. Dose sound more reasonable to recuperate that power for aiding in propelent farms exchangers heat transfering magic in some way, especialy when need and cadance increses. But lets not forget, Starship isn't even walking yet, this is very much in crude testing fazes, aloooooot of things to tackle with much bigger prioritys, thats why everything is so 'unpolished', testing just a few things per flight, olm is so basic and only now building a proper one. First complete human lunch missions on starships are probably about 3-5 years away.... Moon missions will use Orion capsule for earth-hls crew transfer... much to do. ... im happy we can observe fellow humans do what we do best, making the impossible, possible 😎
@tehice23 at the current pace even 3 years seems to far off. Another thing that's bothering me is the tower shielding. Looks to me like simple steel plates. Why not use curved ones and add the heat shield tiles that weren't up to standard for the starship After all they produce them on mass anyway.
@@David_randomnumber it dose seems far but i do think it is quite realistic if not even optimistic. Just by comparing how long "simple" dragon capsule took to modify and certificate for human flight, despite designed from ground up with that in mind.. We humans are delicate water bags. But comercial cargo, end of next year for sure, new revenue would give a nice kick 🙂 That might be neat idea, using not flight worthy headshields since for some reason they dont like water to much.. question is, if they can withstand the plume force. I find it odd that they dont utilize water on the tower since it is amazing at absorbing rocket blast. Even Blue Origin knows this hehe Edit: oh yes, those pipes are indeed heat exchangers, to cool the diverter. Would be interesting to see temperatures, pressures and other data after flght
The booster came in full tail down raptors in crossfire of heat until a final burn at the end. That kind of messed up the raptors a bit. Will doing your flop on the way in save your raptors or will you need to update those belts too.?.
Starship is surely going to end up being a hugely versatile vehicle. But TTTT my attention is going to be focused on its HLS role. I just can't help myself.
Quiz Time! No Cheating! In your opinion, what's the biggest difference between Block 1 and Block 2 Starships?
Flaps durability 😅
Increased propellant volume
smaller payload bay and more fuel so more payload capability
stainless steel slimming
The forward flaps survive the reentery
That starship refuelling in orbit scene might need a mosaic for their privacy, seems a bit intimate
That's how Starships are born
Have you just watched the scott manleys Sheperd video?
That joke is as old as Moses' toes.
WAI drinking game: take a shot every time you hear the word ‘likely’
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That would 'likely' kill us....
@@FrankGardner-ep9ih Not to mention being expensive.
"Of course I still love you," "Just read the instructions," " A short fall of gravitas." Come on Elon. Surely you can come up with something better than "Pad A" and "Pad B."
Well, they're pretty big pads. Maybe they should be called Maxi-Pads?
Damos and Phobos?
We should name pad b flaming diarrhea
@brickpopo4951 But those are ships. Read Ian M. Banks.
@@XCX237I think the two sea oil rigs they bought already use those names
9:05 The graphic at this moment of the video incorrectly highlights "BOOSTER PROP LOAD(t)" when Felix is discussing Ship propellant differences. Specifically, the highlight should be on the row below, "SHIP PROP LOAD (t)".
i was confused at first at how 350/3300tons=25% but then realized they made a mistake
Thunderf00t seething after this one 😂
Jó Magyarország
@@AquaticCat647🇭🇺❤️
He’s like “Reeeeeeeeeeeeee😤😡🤬”
Szia uram! Olcsó bojler nem érdekel?😂🇭🇺
Is that clown still going.
10:35 "What do you mean ONLY?!" LOL! I almost spit my covfefe. That reaction deserves a meme.
Whats a covfefe
@@Hungary_0987 President Trump's fun word from a 2016 campaign tweet. Sparked a dozen possible explanations. Love/hate all around.
Something odd just happened when I opened this video. An AI like audio translation into German was activated and I thought I am looking at a rip off channel. Only after checking the options under the Settings menu of the video did I noticed a entry called Audiotrack.
Is this new? This crap was never activated before.
Also, does anyone know how i can completely shut off subtitles? I already turned these off in my general preferences, but they still get activated on some videos - like with this one.
It's new to me as well. It also got all te titles for the other languages wrong. This is a feature that must have been introduced by RUclips. They did not notify me about this.
Same happened to me right now. 🧐
@@Whataboutit same happened with me right now but in HINDI. And its giving terminater vibe.
Not exactly new, but wasn't available for every channel
I cannot turn it off, that makes this video unwatchable... 😢
Block 2 is taller by one ring than block 1, but that does not account for all propellant differences, so the rest of video is fine.
yep, it is 2 rings of LOx and 1 ring of CH4 taller
Got double check numbers before publishing.
3300 to 3650 fuel capacity is a 10ish% increase, not 25
And from all the other sources I’ve seen block 2 is 1 ring taller than block 1.
Yep, I did the same calculation. Looks more like 10%, not 25%.
Starship for the win!!
@@Whataboutitvroom vroom rocket
I still find it absolutely crazy they thought they wouldn't need a flame diverter.
Block 1 and 2 are NOT the same size. Block two is 1 ring taller.
I was going to mention that but you beat me he says it at 9:21 I figure he would have known that lol
According to the datasheet Felix used, the block 2 ship is 2.2m taller.
Not thrilled with the header tank(s). It LOOKS like it chews up significant volume of the starship payload capacity and makes the clamshell opening of the starship LOOK impossible. Maybe I am mistaken but it seems like the majority of typical paying customer payloads will not fit through the "pez" dispenser opening. Since one HAS to assume that SpaceX is building this to actually make money, you would think they might have unveiled a variant that actually can deploy large satellites or Dream Chaser. Just a thought.
As for blue origin I've been seeing them it take step by step but I've been waiting for that ferocious part to show its face
Blue Origin is an older company than SpaceX. They still haven't made orbit while Falcon just celebrated 400 successful launches.
Starship is their long term platform. Before anyone else reaches enough scale to begin competing with Falcon 9/Heavy. It takes 12+ launches per year to make reusable a good business case. Hence why Arriane 6 and ULA remain disposable.
@@External2737 but look at all those billionaires in Low Gravity! Wow!
lmao
block two ships are one ring bigger. 52 meters vs 50 meters.
51.8288m*
@@Yooshist that was my understanding as well
Have devence systems instaled on Starship yet ?? Against Lunar and Martians troops ??
@@jacekplacek9288 LMFAO what
@@jacekplacek9288 yeah they just fly up and use the boosters as a flamethrower
Hi Felix, i dont know if you have covered this but the flatter Dome, seems simpler than the Blue Origin Hex pattern version which Jeff B spoke about in detail on his recent tour. To me Space X must be saving a fortune on materials and cost, and producing a simpler design, is the penalty weight?? Thanks again for your absolutely brilliant ( Janet and John - as we english say( for the none technical) updates.
Blue Origin seems to have inherited ULA's methodology: take a piece of raw metal, then mill away 85-90% of it to get what you really want. IMHO, a very expensive and time consuming practice. As opposed to taking a sheet of stainless, bend it into a circle, weld the seam, then weld multiple rings together end-to-end.
@@richardpark3054 That is how Falcon 9 is built ;-)
Looks like blue origin has been in business for 24 years and hasn't launched the first space ship to orbit . What are they waiting for????
Blue Origin just needs two more lawsuits to reach orbit.😂
@@External2737 Yes. BO is fueled by a proprietary blend of lawsuits, regulatory kibitzing, and snarky remarks.
they did however land the first rocket that reached space. they have been a space tourism company for years, and appear to be the only successful one at that. virgin galactic is embroiled in a lot of difficulties, hard to call it a successful company. new shepherd flies with passengers regularly and is fully reusable. quite an accomplishment. they have only recently pivoted to orbital flight and announced the new glenn roughly when starship was announced. i think about a year before. if it flies this year which is a big if, it would be pretty much on par with starship development. the Be4 is already flight proven, and put up quite a performance on Vulcan's most recent flight
@@mattkingston6157 Define space. If Khaman line, not yet. Yes, they went to vacuum and back.
Only Space X's tourism has orbited. I look forward to progress.
9:10 you are showing booster prop instead of ship.
WASSER 414, ich war hier ;)
That must be a bug from RUclips! I can't even see it! :D
Lmao, I saw it too ^^
@@Whataboutit RUclips reloaded it while i was watching the episode :D
Hahaha bei mir auch
Something to remember on the Starship HLS, it will be MUCH lighter in dry mass than a regular starship. No fins, no heat shield, and likely a different engine configuration. It doesn't need three sea level raptors, they might go with a cluster of vac-raps and all gimbled.
Like your videos. Wish you added chapters for easy navigation.
Just watch the whole video? .....
@@alexwainwright3592 I wanted to skip to certain topics.
At time 9:12, you marked out the wrong fuel status - you should have boxed in the ship figures, not the booster figures. Never mind though - still a great update.
STARSHIP HAS A PAYLOAD BAY NOT A "FAIRING."
Bro, I think your 'caps' key is stuck.
@@richardpark3054 I think you don't know I don't care.
@@FranklinRatliff So, why did you fix it?
@@richardpark3054😂😂😂😂
Great Episode Again Sir...information junky here.
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you liked it! 🤩
It’s fascinating to see how regulatory challenges come into play for both SpaceX and Blue Origin. Innovations aside, these compliance hurdles remind us that space isn’t just about engineering but policy as well. A crucial insight many might overlook!
...when 2 starships love each other very much... 16:00
Worth noting Booster 12 had Raptors up to at least number 359 according to the pictures and there are over 500 Raptor 2s waiting to be used so I don't expect them to switch over to Raptor3 for awhile.
The HLS mockup looks so good. I’m getting crazy Rocinante vibes 😮💨
Me vibes??
Me vibes??
NO HEART HANDS!!! Well done. Take my thumbs up, sir. 😁
I still think there are newer Star ships once the test campaign winds down. I can see a special version of ship as the in orbit fuel depot, as it doesn’t need a full load as well as any cargo space. How about a new optical telescope which is pushed to a higher orbit by a space tug vehicle.
On landing on the uneven surface of the moon etc, I wondered about the use of lander/airbag systems, like the ones used to land on mars, but rather than impact protection you could inflate a rigid set around the base of the starship and then a program could auto adjust inflation at different points to amend vertical angle nearly instantly to ensure no tip over, I doubt that would work on Mars but on the moon the low gravity would probably allow for it.
BO gets a silly deluge system citation
"Welcome to the club"
The America hating, liberal government agency termites gotta eat too...and get well paid, work from home, have zero accountability, and spew worthless red tape, and do nothing productive. But they vote for the power mad democrats, so whatever.
I really like the way the flaps look on the v2
Great episode
Great video Felix 👍
The tanks are larger and it has a smaller payload bay
Great job explaining so I can understand.
The ultimate interstellar starship would have a special notch in the front end of it so that you could send a falcon heavy from space after liftoff. That third stage is going to get you where you need to be at a high velocity. And fill the starship completely up with fuel. See how fast you can get something going right out of the way. And definitely send it up the meteor shower
Thanks. Great update
Sorry aber die Deutsche Synchro ist leider echt kacke. Habe mich total erschrocken
Aber sonst bester mann
Grüße
Die haben wir nicht gemacht. Wird automatisch von RUclips erstellt. Danke!!!
Same auf Spanish ist such 💩😂
Kann man das abstellen? Nervt total, jedes Video muss ich das jetzt ändern
Leider kann ich auf meinem TV Stick nicht auf die Originalsprache wechseln. Nur die KI Übersetzungen werden angeboten.
@@MrBlackhiller Schöne neue Welt. Sei doch froh, dass DuRohr weiß was gut für dich ist... 😂
Howdy from Temple, Texas!
Howdy! 🤠
"WASSER 414"
it's because it got translated based on ur location. So I guess ur from Germany?
Wasser! Ich brauche mehr Wasser!
@@summersbco Mae dŵr yn ddrwg i chi.
Fixed
German for "Water", ok.
An impressive, informative episode. Warmest compliments. Thank you, sir. :)
It's amazing what a setback it can be to take your foot off the gas. Manned missions to the moon in the 60s, and then entropy. Now 6 decades later starting from scratch with new people, tech, & manufacturing ramp up. Imagine if the transition had been continuous. "Always be thrusting."
8:40 I think the biggest change is the heat shield
StarShip doesn't use "fairings". Fairings are disposable (for non-SpaceX rockets) covers used to improve aerodynamics.
Millennium Falcon yes!!! Love the initial interior views of the prototype so far. I'm thinking they'll be changing by the 1st launch. Probably?!
I’m hoping Blue Origin succeeds, I think the competition is good for the industry in the long term.
3,650 is approximately 10.6% larger than 3,300.
Felix has no computer to count
Good one Felix 🕊️🌵
HI FELIX... I have a questions about the Raptor engines:
Once Raptor 3 is standard will the raptor 2 and 1 engines be retrofitted into Raptor 3 engines? And if that is not doable than what happens to all the old Raptor 2 and 1 engines? They must have build quite a few of them already.
Wtf dude i cant get the original audio track when i watch this video on the TV only all the dubbed versions are available….
The new "tiny" payload volume gives it 80% of the interior volume of a 747-400. :D
Felix, I love the videos, but going on and on about channel metrics every… single… video… gets really, really old. Maybe you could mix it up a bit, find one or two other ways of saying it or something?
Thanks for all the work you guys do on this! I hit like on every video. 😊
They can do two types of Block 2, one for high volume low mass, and another for low volume high mass.
The same issue was recognized in cargo aircraft decades ago. A famous example is when USAF modified its entire fleet of C-141's by lengthening the fuselage. The planes were constantly getting 'cubed out' (the cargo space was full) with unused weight lifting capacity.
The reinforcement of the chopsticks was also needed due to a larger way more powerful starship than the original. This isn't a deficiency or design flaw to repair but an improvement to match all the thrust and payload improvements.
Well, I dunno about that. The chopsticks neither lift nor hold down the rocket opposing the rocket thrust. The chopsticks only deal with the (nearly) empty rocket.
nope, it was just to be sure
BO New Glenn rocket breaks its top speed record of 1mph.
Space x can also think of an expendable 2nd stage and huge fairing for use with superheavy which can also open up a few opportunities
Actually, block 2 ships are one ring taller, so not exactly the same size as you stated.
Totally broken audio when watching on RUclips-Roku. Auto translated into other language with no way to disable it. Translations do not have an option for English either. Had to switch over to my phone to watch.
RUclips's roll out of this might not be perfect. We're working to improve over RUclips's own work right now. Roku might want to update it's software as well.
Maybe the Block 2 propellant tank may have been increased in size for test purposes only. This test may be for a full orbit and then land or catch back at base therefore needing more propellant. The much taller Block 3 Starship will be the one with a much larger propellant capacity ready for missions.
Thanks man!
Let’s go Spacex!
Amazing feats already achieved and it seems other major ones just on the horizon but it looks like tons of work is ahead to be done. Some of what spacex are (and will be) doing are stand-alone industries and just imagining the scale of what it will take to get just living on the moon working at scale starts to stretch my imagination. Still i imagine what's required for Mars is some factors more of what we establish works for the moon. SUPER EXCITING. Godspeed to all parties involved 🙌🏾
Hello Kitty Sticker would rock lol
There's actually really important information stated here about the Starship programme.
So, why aren't they using Heat Shield Tiles on critical parts of the launch pad?
Nah, we aren't going to see starship catch attempts until the second tower is capable of catching. It's impossible to catch both super heavy and ship in rapid succession on the same tower with the current design. Aside from the fact there's no reason to, given that most ships will need to go back to a payload integration facility. The obvious exception is, of course, tankers, but I doubt we'll see a ship return to flight with 0 refurbishment for a year or more, at least. Rapid reuse of the booster is the real key to this systems success. The ability to launch, catch the booster, roll another tanker in place, stack, and go again is key.
When you said smash the like button you reminded me of one of my favorite tv host as a kid, Jack Horkheimer from Star Gazers.
keep on your with your work ✔
Flame diverters should use heat tiles. Would be a great way to test if your tiles can take the heat and the pressure, better then a blow torch as well!
I could be very wrong but I’m pretty sure the engines get hotter than the re entry temps, all the tiles would likely turn to dust if they got blasted with 33 Raptors
The exhaust from engines is very different from air: different composition, temperature, velocity, and shockwave pattern. The tiles would shatter just from variable shockwaves passing through them.
(A common misconception is that exhaust is very hot, whereas it is not very hot but very FAST, ~10 times the speed of sound - because rocket engines by design convert heat into the motion of the gas)
STARSHIP HAS A NOSECONE AND A PAYLOAD BAY.
Bro, I think your 'caps' key is stuck.
I know I keep saying this, but it just makes ZERO sense for anyone in the government to tell the engineers literally inventing cutting edge space technology how to do anything.
Block two also has to be able to refuel an orbit which means that it has to be able to fuel multiple times in a row without anybody checking it.
well we all saw how much fuel the booster had left after getting caught, that was quite a safe margin, maybe they want to do the same in preparation for a ship catch , and only after getting things tuned in they will risk running to lower fuel levels after landing, much like falcon 9 , for that one they just need enough fuel to burn for x amount of seconds and that's it, it either lands or explodes , there is no hovering and correcting it.
On the other hand booster and ship both can hover and a tiny bit of extra fuel goes a long way in case of a missed approach. to either try again or just abort to a safe distance from GSE
Would be interesting if Mechazilla could assemble its own tower.
Really ??? I'm so excited !!! Start watching
Good update. Thanks for fewer goofy pop up scenes. Keep working toward "0" to be truly professional.
Felix- easy on praising BO’s use of hydrogen because it burns to produce only water; they get it from a very dirty process from petrochemicals.
I say, forget artimous. Launch Starship. Refuel it. Launch crew in Falcon 9. Rendezvous and transfer to Starship. Conduct Moon mission. Return to earth orbit, dock with refueller, dock Dragon. Return crew to earth. Refuel Starship
And... Build Moon Station in Moon Rocks...
Power of the raptor engines
New Episode🥳
There was discussion at one time that the thickness of stainless steel might be reduced to save weight. Any plans for this in Block 2 or 3?
14:09 lunar update start
thanks bro. this guy hasn't discovered timestamps yet 😂
Can't hear the English audio on my TV for this video.
It is still hard to believe that they caught the booster with the chopsticks 1st try.
I heard that block 4 is going to be 2.5 miles long!
You know it would make more sense to build a interplanetary ship in space, have astronauts live on it in orbit around earth verifying it works and what things may need work before sending it unmanned to orbit mars. They could send it with a starship attached so that when people go to mars they have a vehicle in space with supplies and also a vehicle on mars with supplies. Perhaps not a completely necessary stepping stone but it does provide contingency and would be a goal in the future anyways
SpaceX is pure Rock⚡️Roll
Uhh Felix - Methane engines ch4 + 2(02) ==> 2H2o + c02 --- ie cos and water..... thats clean!
Since most power plants boil water to turn a turbine would it be possible/viable to use the excess heat from starship launches or booster tests to generate the electricity ?
I don't know how they can possibly contain that exhaust plume, but yes that would be awesome!
@@jamesengland7461 Well the images of the flame diverter looked like a heat exchanger so the questions are : is this the case and are those few seconds enough to make the extra effort viable?
Totaly could do that, but it would be a short electrical production and not a good one for the powergrid.
Dose sound more reasonable to recuperate that power for aiding in propelent farms exchangers heat transfering magic in some way, especialy when need and cadance increses.
But lets not forget, Starship isn't even walking yet, this is very much in crude testing fazes, aloooooot of things to tackle with much bigger prioritys, thats why everything is so 'unpolished', testing just a few things per flight, olm is so basic and only now building a proper one. First complete human lunch missions on starships are probably about 3-5 years away.... Moon missions will use Orion capsule for earth-hls crew transfer... much to do.
... im happy we can observe fellow humans do what we do best, making the impossible, possible 😎
@tehice23 at the current pace even 3 years seems to far off. Another thing that's bothering me is the tower shielding. Looks to me like simple steel plates. Why not use curved ones and add the heat shield tiles that weren't up to standard for the starship
After all they produce them on mass anyway.
@@David_randomnumber it dose seems far but i do think it is quite realistic if not even optimistic. Just by comparing how long "simple" dragon capsule took to modify and certificate for human flight, despite designed from ground up with that in mind.. We humans are delicate water bags. But comercial cargo, end of next year for sure, new revenue would give a nice kick 🙂
That might be neat idea, using not flight worthy headshields since for some reason they dont like water to much.. question is, if they can withstand the plume force. I find it odd that they dont utilize water on the tower since it is amazing at absorbing rocket blast. Even Blue Origin knows this hehe
Edit: oh yes, those pipes are indeed heat exchangers, to cool the diverter. Would be interesting to see temperatures, pressures and other data after flght
The booster came in full tail down raptors in crossfire of heat until a final burn at the end. That kind of messed up the raptors a bit. Will doing your flop on the way in save your raptors or will you need to update those belts too.?.
Are there plans for a crew evacuation system for Starship in case of malfunction?
no, the thing is making it safe enough to not need one
So will the new olm also use a water deluge? Or is it flame diverters now? or both?
it will use both water and a trench and diverter system
block 1 to block 2- length of Starship
The audio on my Apple TV is cycling through all of the language options except English…. 😂😂
Starship is surely going to end up being a hugely versatile vehicle. But TTTT my attention is going to be focused on its HLS role. I just can't help myself.
spacex should make detachable capsule for safety, for landing astronouts safely :)
What's the difference between starlink v1 and v2?